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astranauticus · 10 months ago
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am i just projecting or do yall also see the vision (or lack thereof)
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keyunto · 2 years ago
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just for the silly
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novadorks · 1 year ago
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finally finished orv after two years . . . what do i do with my life now
#started in junior year hs dropped it for a while then started reading again at the start of this semester and now im finally done !#dont know whether to cheer or just crumple up and start crying bc wow that was a ride#i thought the ending was tragic but then i moved on to the epilogue and oh my godd#the way kdj was crying and miserable bc he missed his companions and he wanted to be with them so Badly#but when kimcom finally Finally chase him down and come back to him theyre too late and hes already disspitated into other world lines#and after that like. whenever kdj pulls some shit and dies the next chapter always starts with an ‘i’#and hes back and alive and kicking and Thinking but after that epilogue chapter there isnt a chapter in his pov theres no more ‘i’s and.#it just made me incredibly sad bc we dont get to see his pov ever again bc hes truly gone unless we as a reader can imagine him alive again#anyways sad things aside it is Incredibly funny that lee hyunsung just became a wanted man in the 1865th round lmaoo#+ uriel sun wukong and black flame dragon forming a band together ??? truly the most randomest thing in the epilogue#++ yoohankim need to stop beating the shit out of e/o and learn to talk their feelings out Please#+++ sooyoung’s love for dokja has me miserable o-|-< she would wait for him an eternity write for him an eternity im so sad#three times she endlessly wrote a novel for him to read three times she waited to see him for so long <//3#you bet im imagining the happiest conclusion i can for them#they WILL live happily ever after in that big house together as long as i have something to say about it!#orv
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erosiism · 4 months ago
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𝐇𝐔𝐌𝐀𝐍 | yandere!dottore x m!reader
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warnings | torture, religious imagery (if u squint), psychological horror, gore (detailed), non-com/dub-con, human trafficking & experimentation, what do u expect its dottore, no beta we die like kdj | might contain some mischaracterisation or misconception somewhere or whatever because I stopped playing genshin in 2021 lol 
pairings: dottore x m!experiment!reader
summary: after creating you, dottore grows to be obsessed with the idea of you, and your perfection.
was requested by anon
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THE FIRST THING YOU FEEL, is the absence of being.
It’s strange to feel so substanceless; so inhuman. When consciousness first awakes in you — when you feel the first rays of the glaring lights seeping into your eyelids — all you can do is blink your eyes, wincing. 
SUBJECT 094 HAS JUST BEEN CREATED.
Your body is shivering and naked and raw — you’ve just been created. Hands rove over your body, but they aren’t lecherous: rather, the way they touch you is purely clinical, like how a butcher would inspect meat. You hear bits and pieces of words you don’t know, floating over your head. You wonder if they’re any perforations in you — whether you’re another failed experiment, another creation to discard.
Your hands are without a single blemish. You’re new.
You hear them say you’re perfect.
An experiment. A perfect experiment, after ninety-three times. 
They call you 94. 
You long for a name.
Your creator has not met you yet: but you’ve seen people who look exactly like him, working on you — they knock you out with pills, drugs, serums — they give you injections with thick, blunt syringes and stuff your mouth with tissue when you want to scream. They ignore your convulses and your shrieks and the tears that roll down your cheeks madly — they too, are not human. They have no emotions to pity you: and you too, shouldn’t have the capability to feel, and yet you do. Shamelessly, piteously, and horrifically — you feel human.
That is the desired result, one tells you, when you spit those words out. They tasted funny in your tongue, sitting there and rotting until you finally tossed them out. We wanted you to be human. A perfect being. You will aid Fatui greatly.
Fatui? You had echoed.
Fatui, another murmurs, the order we serve. And our master, Dottore, who you are supposed to serve.
You learn that Dottore is away in a place called Sumeru. This place is Snezhnaya, and the place you’re in is Dottore’s lab. Dottore. The name drops down honeyed from your lips, and so you repeat it: Dottore…
The master you serve.
The master you serve is named Dottore. But you will call him Doctor, one warns you.
You tuck those words in your head, and they insert more needles into you. Your skin has become an atlas of thin, small holes — non noticeable to the human eye, but each pulsing and swelling beneath your skin.
You wait for your creator to come.
You wait for your God to come.
.
.
.
.
You see him for the first time when crimson and carmine is marred on his cheek, and when his eyes are amused and glinting. He’s beautiful, you note, terrifyingly so. He has red eyes: blooming crimson ones — and wavy blue hair. Half of his face is obfuscated by a mask, but still you can see his lips move as he speaks his first word to you: “Y/n.”
Your heart leaps. Your creator moves towards you, his eyes inspecting you, his deft fingers moving your face to the side, checking every part of you to ensure you aren’t damaged. His lips curl up into a satisfied smile, but your brain is still reeling from the name he has called you.
Almost like he can read your thoughts, your creator grins. “Y/n,” he says in a lilting, falsely warm tone, “that is the name I give you. But the minute you step out of line, I’ll be ripping that away from you. Remember that, pet. Remember that, alright?” His touch is gentle as he thumbs at your hips, tracing circles around your skin. You swallow, nodding your head.
I’ll be ripping that away from you.
Essentially speaking, the moment you misbehave, you’ll have your own chance at humanity taken away from you.
“You will call me Doctor,” Dottore speaks slowly, his words like music to your ears, “you, Y/n…you must remember that you are incredibly special. You are the first successful weapon I’ve made. The word “human” will have to be earned — but for now, be good, alright?”
You drink his words up. By the side is a cart filled with more medication — more knives, more needles, more syringes. You’re sitting on a white bed — everything around you is white. The different clones have started to look like smudges of white to you: blobs moving and shifting around in a distance. You can’t tell if your reverence for the Doctor is programmed, or if it’s because he is your creator — but it doesn’t matter. You want him to praise you. You need it. If he likes you, he’ll give you your humanity — and you want that.
“Y-yes,” your voice wavers as you speak, “y-yes, I’ll —”
“Ah…the first order of business,” The Doctor — Dottore — says, “stitches. It appears that the ones who have finished creating you have lacked something: an organ, if you will. It isn’t something a human would necessarily have, but well…” His red eyes study you, and there’s almost sadism rampant in his eyes — “you aren’t a human, are you?”
You stay silent.
“Well, Y/n, what do you think? I’ll make it painless,” Dottore smiles, “why aren’t you giving me a reaction? It’ll be simple. I’ll cut you up, insert some things inside you, stitch you back up,” he says carelessly. “Hm. Perhaps it will be painful…but good things come at a price. With this, you’ll be a better prototype than anything else. You’ll be special — to me. You want that, don’t you?”
What is my purpose? You want to ask, why am I different from the other people?
“And on that thought, I suppose you can withstand pain. You’re a robot — a false creation. I might have programmed you to make you feel pain, but now a new thought has occured to me: I certainly can’t have any painkillers messing up the careful system in your body.” The Doctor stares at you, hard, “but you’ll be willing to do that, right?”
Pain, you think. The word explodes in your brain. You don’t know what that word is. It’s strange to think that you understand human language: that you can somehow articulate it out, like it’s been annotated in the blood of your veins — but you can’t live it. Words have no meaning to you: after all, you have not learnt or earned them. Is pain the feeling of aching when you feel blood burst from your body? You are a machine, but yet you’ve been gifted flesh. So what exactly are you?
“I will,” you whisper, “I can.”
“Good boy,” Dottore hisses quietly, “now, be a pet and behave, will you?”
You nod your head.
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.
.
For the next few weeks, Dottore indulges in you. He buys you sweet treats he knows you can’t taste, he comforts you when you cry, he makes you dependent on him. Soon, your whole world consists solely of him, just him, your creator. You wonder if he’s forgotten about his whole promise to “tweak” you, to perfect you, but finally, the day comes.
Dottore’s hands are gentle as he props you up the operating table. You look around, noticing that it’s just the two of you.
“The others —” you manage a shaky sentence, “they aren’t helping?”
“As advanced as they are, they aren’t me. Now that I’ve laid my eyes on your perfection: your potential for perfection, that is: I cannot risk anyone else touching you, tainting you: destroying you…” Dottore shakes his head. “Now lay down, Y/n.”
You obey, lying flat down on the operating table. You expect a subtle, soft kind of pain — the kind that you’re accustomed to: but instead, he stabs into your jugular, and you scream. 
Blood — there was blood — that burst from your neck, soaking your skin. Your eyes started to tear, but still you lived.
“How interesting, right?” Dottore muses as he continues to dig the knife through your skin, “how strange. I needed to acquire quite a bit of blood to ensure that you functioned just like a human, while retaining the qualities of what a God would be like. So I imagine it’s quite painful for you. Right, Y/n?”
You’re convulsing now, screams slipping from your mouth.
“I forgot. You can’t exactly speak now, can you?”
“D-Doctor,” you rasp out, “will I be stronger after this? Will I be better?”
“Of course, my dear,” Dottore hums, “it’s just a slight tweak in your body, and you’ll be better than ever. Do you know what? I’m aghast, really, at those who call this human experimentation. I suppose in your case, since you aren’t quite human to begin with — well, you were made from human extracted parts — it’s not quite counted. But when I take little test subjects, there are some who mock me. I remember the ruler of Sumeru quite well: quite a pathetic Archon she was — saying, and I quote: experimentation is an insult to the very concept of life…do you agree, Y/n?”
Your body recovers frighteningly fast. The pain is there, but the wound closes as quickly as it has appeared. Dottore stares at it with fascination, with a small ah of gratification.
“No,” you say, words muffled with sobs, “I don’t agree.”
You feel another knife press into your skin — your belly this time. He doesn’t cut you up first — he carves into you, a bloody insignia on your skin. “With me, or with her?”
Your creator is never wrong. “Her,” you choke out.
“Bingo!” Dottore hums in delight, “correct. I’ve always believed that there is potential for weaponization. Discussions of research on beings like you have to be increased in the future. Humans have unlimited potential. It may be foolish of me as a researcher to say this, but with enough input, I might be able to reach the level of a 'god', or so people might call it. Some say it’s heresy. I disagree.”
You splutter. The surgical knife has made it past the first layer of skin: he’s flaying you alive. 
Are you even alive? Can you be associated with the words of life and death, when you are not even human?
My name is Y/n, you desperately think. My name is Y/n. Y/n. Y/n…!
I’m human. Tell me that I’m human, please.
“And others say I blasphemous further against human life as a member of the Fatui, by creating clones or "segments" of myself. But really — I do have convictions. Just different from everyone else’s…” Dottore strokes your tear-stained cheek, tilting his head. “You’re such a good one, aren’t you? You aren’t even refuting what I say. The earlier ones before you — subject 43 in particular — kept making a fuss. You, however…” his eyes are gleaming. “Might be fun to play around with.”
You aren’t wriggling anymore. You aren’t shaking. You force yourself to be ramrod straight on the operation table. The knife is embedded in your skin.
“You are both machine and human, and yet you are too much and too little of both to be truly worth anything…but really, all you need to do is to stay loyal to me. When people like Capitano, Pantalone, or even Childe approach you — do not speak to them,” Dottore says softly, so softly you have to focus on his voice to hear him — “you understand that, don’t you? Because you are my perfect creation…no one else can tamper with you. Not even for a minute or second.”
You nod your head.
“Good. And now, for the matter of your heart,” Dottore tells you, “your heart, Y/n, is unlike any other. It’s an amalgamation of all the artificial blood vessels I’ve managed to make from other projects. But frankly speaking, I think you might be better without it: my clones have told me that you seem to feel too much. And weapons do not feel. They never do, Y/n.”
“I understand.” 
“So — I will do this —” in one quick motion, Dottore rips your heart from your chest, holding it as thuds in front of you. 
You freeze.
Your heart is there. There’s a gaping hole in your chest, and the presence of absence has made itself known. You watch as Dottore bites into it: in front of you he feasts; his mouth bloody and your heart rimming his teeth. There’s blood pooling in your mouth too, dripping onto the table. Your skull has never felt this light. Pain was present in every inch of your body, but still your heart continued to beat. 
“I might need to rewire your brain too,” Dottore looks at you intently, “if your loyalty is skewed. But if you prove that you’re loyal to me, then of course, that won’t be needed.”
All you can think about is: your flesh lines his throat. But you’re a dirty being. 
“I’ll prove it,” you gasp, “I’ll prove it. So don’t discard me.”
“Your desperation is adorable,” Dottore coos, “did you know I based your heart off a pomegranate? Delicate hands are required for it, to peel back later after layer. And it is red that dyes your fingers when you touch the juice sprinkling out — like blood. There’s concentration needed to break the surface, a certain strength needed to crush the seeds between voracious teeth and sip up the sweetness of the nectar. Then the juices will hemorrhage your tongue: it’s supposed to remind you of your actions. Similarly, you — Y/n — you have stained my tongue. Don’t you adore their idea?”
You nod again, weakly. “I do.”
“And on that note, I find you a remarkable project: you hardly ever scream, you hardly ever move, and your wounds heal beautifully. You’re just so perfect for me, aren’t you, Y/n? Just for me, right?” Dottore continues on, words honeyed and sweet, “oh, Y/n…” he strokes your hair gently, shushing you softly as little hiccups escape your lips. He thumbs at your waist, his face a breadth away, “you are so endearing. So flawless.”
Your skin is covering the empty hole in your chest. Dottore pulls you to the lap, steadying you, before he kisses your lips softly. His words are the knife — heaving, forceful, hungry. And when he kisses you, only then can you taste yourself, your shame, guilt, pleasure. You wonder if you taste as rotten as you feel — if there’s a part of you that can be cradled. You feel like an open wound, your guts ready to spill out. He continues to kiss you, and slowly, your body becomes the atlas of your twisted relationship with Dottore; marks and bruises scattering across your once unblemished skin, a map of what he has done.
Kisses.
Your creator has kissed you.
“My darling, my beauty,” Dottore smiles, crimson still staining his teeth, “is this not the most human action one can do?”
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a/n: unedited, I apologise. sorry if it’s wonky or whatever I’m just experimenting lol || reposts, likes, and comments are always appreciated! leave a comment to tell me how it was :)
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gffa · 1 year ago
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I NEED MORE PEOPLE TO READ OMNISCIENT READER'S VIEWPOINT WITH ME BECAUSE I JUST GOT TO CHAPTER 46 OF THE WEBTOON AND HYENA LAUGHED SO HARD I CRIED ACTUAL TEARS. (For reference, Kim Dokja is a character who read a post-apocalyptic web novel for ten years and suddenly found that the novel came to life around him so he knows some details about the situations they're facing and has emotional investment in Yoo Joonghyuk, the protagonist of the novel, to the point that this novel is what basically kept him going through his shitty life prior to this. When he catches up with Yoo Joonghyuk, who is under mind-control, Kim Dokja is able to hear his thoughts, of how YJH thinks he's alone in this world, and it sets KDJ THE FUCK OFF because he was there for those thousands and thousands of chapters! He was there when YJH regressed through all those lives! He was there when he fought his battles! He was there when YJH even had a child in one of the past lives! He was there the whole time, YJH has never been alone! And ORV is not a BL novel/series, but you would be forgiven for thinking it was because, wow, that was pretty epic "you are the person I'm always with" kind of thing there.) So then. Chapter 46. Kim Dokja goes back to check on Yoo Joonghyuk, who is still unconscious after the big fight, and YJH's student is there, watching over him. KDJ leaves a note with her and realizes-- oh. Oh, shit. She overheard some of what he said. Nobody's supposed to know that he's read this as a story, he has to keep it secret and--
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"Okay, I started laughing because, "About, um, you two..." is one of those moments where the series is kind of gently poking at the BL trope that's not really serious here. It's just a cute, funny, moment! I laughed, it was fodder for me, but I know not to take it too ser--"Okay, I started laughing because, "About, um, you two..." is one of those moments where the series is kind of gently poking at the BL trope that's not really serious here. It's just a cute, funny, moment! I laughed, it was fodder for me, but I know not to take it too ser--
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"DON'T DROWN BECAUSE OF YOUR FEELINGS!" Is she-- Is she saying what I think--
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"I CAME HERE FOR YOU!" "HOW COULD YOU SAY YOU'RE ALONE, WE'RE TOGETHER!" "I'VE ALWAYS BEEN THERE WITH YOU! DON'T LOSE HOPE!"
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AND THEN. "THINK OF OUR BABY!" REAL TEARS ON MY FACE. THAT IS GOING BEYOND JUST HAVING FUN POKING AT THE BL TROPE AND ACTIVELY PLAYING INTO IT, THE MISUNDERSTANDING OF A CHARACTER READS EXACTLY LIKE A WHOLE LOT OF ACTUAL BL I HAVE READ. T H I N K O F O U R B A B Y PLEASE HELP BUT FINALLY--
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"'Secretive Plotter' finds the situation ridiculous" OKAY BYE THE NOISE I JUST MADE WASN'T EVEN AUDIBLE ANYMORE I CAN'T HANDLE HOW DELIGHTFUL THIS SERIES IS
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orviposition · 1 year ago
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one of the many things i hate orv for is making me be so dependant on yoo joonghyuk getting a happy ending— it's all kim dokja's fault i swear i wish for it so bad. the thought of this man not being able to be at peace and happy in a world where his friends and family are there without the scenarios, makes me mad with a grief i didnt know i was capable of feeling for a 'character' 🥲
(what's also funny is that yoo joonghyuk's happy ending, where his friends and family are happy and well, kim dokja is also there standing besides them. But kim dokja cannot even imagine a world where he can be together with them without 'failing' and atoning. 💀✌️) a happy ending for yoo joonghyuk would be one with you as well kim dokja you fool
aughh anon the entire content of this ask has been on my mind for months. do we have some sort of a mind link be honest. also this will have spoilers for epilogue and side story below
aghh kdj wishing for and working so hard for yjh's happiness truthfully translated into us wishing for the happiness of that sunfish too I'd say. 1863 abandoned lives and worlds existing solely to meet his sponsor and find the reason he exists, which is also linked to said sponsor, made him feel liberated and at peace. a feeling which only kdj, said sponsor, took issue with. his guilt is so huge, so strong, he cannot fathom that yjh will not resent him after having his tragedy be used as someone's sustenance.
after kdj split himself into 51 and 49 in order to atone and sustain the world in which yjh and the rest of kimcom will continue to live, he'd already started imagining how their lives would be. 49 and yjh would search for tls123, 49 would read hsy's novel, 49 would attend ljh's graduation etc. what he didnt count for was kimcom regressing to get him back.
after the group regression, yjh says that his story has already ended now that his reader is no longer there. some time later, astronaut yjh sets on a space journey to spread orv and piece kdj together except that he fully expected to die and the mission to fail because just like kdj had learned to live from him, yjh no longer knows how to live without kdj anymore. in fact before sp and 999 gang save him and biyoo appears yjh fully expects that his -- will be 'death' (as if kdj would allow that smh).
after nearly a hundred years he descends into lhh's worldline. i think most of us know that lhh is 49 kdj's reincarnation by now, what i didnt catch the first time around however was that yjh and lhh met right after lhh considered committing suicide (lee "i have no trauma" hakhyun is a fucking liar) but chickened out in the end
a few thousands more years pass and yjh returns to the 1864th worldline. he talks more, he smiles easier, he no longer cares what his -- will be. and hes let kdj choose for himself whether or not he wants to return. he has been kdj's reader for thousands of years, he Understands what it means to get the will to survive by reading someone's story.
and in the side story he wants to take that choice back. he'll bring kdj back himself. cuz hes obsessed. hsy failed so now is his turn. except that his turn hasnt started yet. so who knows.
anw tldr yeah you cannot divorce kdj from yjh's (happy) ending. if any number yjh hears abt kdj in whatever way shape or form he'll get curious abt him. 41, for example. even after excluding lhh, 41 got curious abt kdj. hsy shows him a happy memory of our yjh which included kdj and 41 fucking collapsed (i become more excited abt the side story the more it progresses) and lost consciousness. it was such a strong memory of kdj and kimcom eating yjh's cooking and kdj saying how he cooks so well and he should bring more beef next time that hsy described it as yjh dying from happiness. yjhs -- is kdj related in one way or another. kdj just has to Get It that yjh cannot be happy without him
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felikatze · 7 months ago
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most ancient dream loop actually isn't what i have planned in my au but I need you to know that ever since i read your tags Ive been rotating it in my head. IT'S SO FASCINATING. because in the end it's still all their fault. it's still just them being so, so lonely and loving too much. Im insane Im insane Im not normal. Im insane. Im crazy. IM CRAZY. in this hypothetical would it not be siffrin who tries to kill OD, but OD who tries to kill siffrin. would siffrin look nothing but human, and loop the monster... but loop is the one who looks at siffrin, and hisses, "monster." It's just so isejis jeoejrkvmo33iu394i#&[$*$[2[3[=*#×(@,@**$
IT'S NOT YOUR PLAN??? it felt the obvious choice with kdj siffrin. though. upon consideration. bihyung loop would be funny as hell also.
BUT LIKE. A. YEAH. it came to mind bcuz of the homocide dynamic also. AND. WAIT. I JUST HAD A BRAINWAVE. ANCIENT DREAM IS THE FIRST ITERATION OF KDJ. LIKE. LOOP. and the whole of wos & orv exists to save MAD. the same way that Loop needed Siffrin to see how to keep on living. The same way Loop watches Siffrin over and over again, the way Loop has reduced their friends and family and themself to characaters that all ends when these characters reach through the page to hold them.
(Thinks abt MAD and the 999th gang in this context. Sobs)
it IS an interesting reversal that Loop sees Sif as a monster out of their own jealousy, whereas KDJ is disgusted by MAD bcuz MAD represents his lowest point and deepest insecurities he wishes gone. It's deeply similar I think in that Loop also sees Siffrin as their naive stupid past self and perceiving their own vulnerabilities through Siffrin registers as a threat to them.
In a Loop as MAD scenario it is also vry easy to spin Loop attacking Sif instead bcuz thru wos kdj continuously distances himself from what a "person" is often to focus on pragmatism that leads to the emotional hurt of his friends and also as a vehicle of his repressed suicidality. And seeing Sif so distanced from a "person" through the loops as well when Sif nonetheless got everything Loop ever wanted as Loop clung desparately to the last remnants of themself that Siffrin willingly let go, they would be mad, I imagine.
(ofc you said your AU isn't 1:1 so like, no scenarios probably. Actually do you keep scenarios and constellations or does Mirabelle just timeloop bcuz she keeps dying to the King ICAC-style?)
tldr: many thoughts. your mind is an enigma to me if it is not MAD Loop to KDJ Siffrin.
if it is actually bihyung Loop though I will laugh so fucking hard I'm making myself giggle over it
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bytedykes · 9 months ago
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clambers in. would it be possible to have ALL orv questions answered....
hkasd i dont think i have the guts for that rn however i will do all the odd ones that i havent already answered :)<33
3. do you have a favourite quote?
"Eat the soil, Yoo Joonghyuk."
5. if you could ask the authors any question, what would you ask them?
gosh um. how did you fucking think of this!!!! good god!!!! also id like to ask them about the world after the fall and how it relates to orv
7. conversely, whats a headcanon that youre just pulling out of your ass but you love anyway?
see i think when i was still reading i jokingly said "yjh uses his sword to cook" and thought that was so stupid and funny i decided im keeping it forever, but then im pretty sure he literally did use his sword to cook in either the square circle arc or the epilogue so lol
9. any popular thing in the fandom you love?
i love how people draw kdj's stupid face <333 i love it when people make up stupid and contrived scenarios also its awesome
15. any characters you didnt love at first but grew to adore?
maybe bihyung... i think this is very common though + what was intended by orv anyway. OH or anna croft? i didnt like her at first at all but she grew on me lol, idk if i would say i adore her though. but i get her better now
19. whats your favourite duo?
another impossibly hard question... i think sp&od probably... they make me crazyyyy lol <3 alternatively uriel and jhw i care them :)
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always-a-joyful-note · 8 months ago
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gonna hit u with a wild ask for the character opinion game what're ur thoughts on
-jang hayoung (my favorite orv character if the main trio didnt exist)
-kim namwoon
-shin yoosung
-kujo tenn
-kujo takamasa (my favorite i7 character if i give myself over to insanity but i haven't yet so it's nagi or mina)
-natsume minami
BE WILD! AMAZING CHARACTER CHOICES BY THE WAY, Chitra! And thank you so much for the ask!
Spoilers for ORV and i7 under the cut
So Jang Hayoung.
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To be fair, the fandom did have to deal with Jan Hayong being misgendered in a sense. I have my own thoughts about that but that's honestly a somewhat negligible point for me? Because THAT whole discourse is more kdj centred (own problems, hence the slight mark on ignore canon) but for Jang Hayoung herself??? Mildly obsessed. Wall of communication and her own character being a product of communication between author and reader. The way she embodies both miscommunication and breaking boundaries and walls with it. Her funny and hilarious crush on the Demon King of Salvation but clear disdain towards KDJ. She is neat and such a character but also such a self insert and I don't know. Like... she's a link between author and reader, she is her own person, she is waroed by the narrative, she's freer from the narrative than most. I love everything about her.
Kim Namwoon
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I don't have many strong feelings about Kim Namwoon except that he deserved better but KDJ wouldn't let him deserve better because KDJ is a self-hating idiot. He is like the definition of a plot device character but if the plot was some guy's intense sense of self-hatred. He is well written in the sense that there was definitely more to the guy but that KDJ didn't let it be fully realised. But I do love their obsession with mecha. Very valid
Shin Yoosung
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CHARACTER OF ALL TIME I LOVE HER I WOULD DIE FOR HER I WOULD -
Listen. Shin Yoosung is like a daughter to me, okay? Which I guess does note beat the KDJ reader self insert allegations but seriously. Her characters arcs (yes, plural on both)??? Her power? The fact that KDJ wanted to give her (and Gilyoung) the kind of childhood he couldn't ever have but that her hands were already sort of tainted with blood? Canon isn't real doesn't mean I hate what canon did to her, by the way. It's that KDJ hated what canon did to her and...changed it. Shin Yoosung is like what if you put a little girl with so much guilt and made her face the realisation of that guilt - that she IS or can be as bad as she currently fears. Also, she is so mean sometimes to Gilyoung and that is so real for her. (Kiss them is platonic, by the way)
Also. Older Shin Yoosung's aesthetic and gender. Yes.
Kujo Tenn
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Insane, self-sacrificial, selfish, and Profession. As the Discord group put it: ableist icon, too. Tenn is like what if you mixed the yandere trope with the stoic soldier trope or something (don't listen to that I am literally just spitting nonsense here.) But for real....he's SUCH a well-written character that that itself drives me BONKERS. He's got such Eldest Child energy BUT - BUT THIS IS IMPORTANT - there is a youngest child inside him screaming for attention too!! (Which I think TRIGGER gave). You never can completely hate him even if you do think he should be slapped. As a treat. The writers just went OFF on his character and I could think about it all day and one day will try to articulate it all. He's just......neat
Kujo Takamasa
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In my defense of the design thing....he really gives off SUCH Phantom of the Opera vibes, it's SO funny to me. I say beast unleashed when he's just a poor meow meow who should have used his money for therapy rather than the stuff he pulled in canon. Is he for me? Nah, not really. But do I find him hilarious from an observer's point of view? Absolutely
Natsume Minami
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Minami and Sogo both made me realize I might have a vibe with characters who look frail and have white hair but are deeply unwell inside and express that through toxic violence of some sort. To be honest, my favourite thing about Mina is that he might be a subversion of the composer trope? Like a foil to Sogo. Usually, I think composers are written as tortured souls who want to express a deep but beautiful feeling in music. Mina is a tortured soul but his feelings are raw and ugly and frankly terrifying and he was encouraged to express those through art. Which is honestly great and makes me want to bite his character arc like a watermelon. Also, at this point, he's probably the only one holding ZOOL's bad boy image together because the others can act it out well enough but they're all so pathetic and sweethearts at heart (took some time getting there for Torao, though.) Minami is not a sweetheart in any sense or form, even if he is pathetic, and that's very cool of him
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anotherferalrat · 10 months ago
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A funny lil Valentine's thought for you...
Now I'm not very far, I'm caught up with the webtoon but I'm only on Ch. ~80 of the novel itself? But from what I've seen so far and what I've been spoiled by...
Last Man Standing by Livingston is 100% a Yoongdok song
First Verse
You're from the stories, a living masterpiece
Self-explanatory, next question.
(More lyric-connections beneath the cut bc it's a lot of insane ramblings and analysis)
Chorus (basically the whole thing tbh)
I just want your love, stop selling me
Feel like KDJ still very much thinks his relationship with YJH is 'I will use you for my goals/I know how to get to the end' but YJH is violently shaking him like. STUPID. I WANT *YOU*.
I don't need the wind that's underneath your wings
Obvious, next. (Pun is very much intended)
I just wanna know when you're landing
Gives me the same vibes of Tell me, you fool. If I were to continue to regress, will I ever get to meet you again? Just that undying loyalty and willingness to wait. Good soup.
You don't need to be the king 'cause I just want the last man standing
Kind of a 2-for-1. First half is literally KDJ being the Demon King of Salvation. Second half also kinda has two meanings. Like on one hand, last man standing is kind of how he is to kimcom, he's the one who's always staying strong, always has a plan no matter what happens in the scenarios.
As for another interpretation, last man standing could be how he was always an outsider or the one left out, emphasis on the 'last man' part, and that YJH would want him even if he's just the dorky kid reading webnovels and not The Guy who can get them to the end.
2nd Verse
I've been around the world, lived a hundred fantasies
YJH and his regressions, next.
Bridge(?)
'Cause you don't gotta fight so hard / Darlin' this is love not war
KDJ has a very... interesting? relationship with love. Like the two people that were supposed to love him were 1) his abuser and 2) the one that killed the former and left him alone. And obviously he didn't have much in the way for a personal life so he's either carefully distant or desperately holding on to those he loves now. I think he needs a lil reminder that love doesn't always have to hurt<3
All I want is who you are / That's what I've been looking for
These lines are a repeat of the themes expressed earlier. First part reminds me of the end of the chorus, how KDJ's companion status doesn't solely rest on his ability to get them to the end. Second part, once again, a callback to the 'tell me fool' vibes. I haven't gotten to that part yet, and I'm pretty sure I'm far from it, but it already has me in a chokehold.
Bonus (chorus pt.2):
I don't need a symphony / I just need your voice and a melody
I don't think this is canon but I just like the hc that KDJ sings really well and connected it to this line<3
Does any of this make sense? Is it accurate to the rest of the novel? I don't know but you all are signing up for my madness so who's the real loser here B)
...still me
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lizhly-writes · 2 years ago
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Where is Asmyung? ಥ⌣ಥ They're already having child together
ngl my first instinct is to go "oh you are FUCKING with me HOW ROOD" but upon further thought this is exactly the reason why i wrote an indeterminate amount of words shilling kdj/bihyung, so if i can do that, there is really not much stopping me from doing this.
in regards to your question, i seeee... one nsfw fic on ao3 where that's the main ship. oh man. do you ship this? because if you do, you are one deprived motherfucker. my condolences.
But anyway. Back to it. Disclaimer, I haven’t read orv in the longest time, so bear with me.
Here is what I remember from the fun and exciting possible romance arc of Han Myungoh. He runs off after getting hit with Asmodeus's curse… and then 3 years later, we see him in the demon realm. As a demon. With a kid.
...You know, I squinted so hard at this that you've actually forced me to reread the chapter that explains this shit. Good job.
It turns out it is strikingly similar to the formulae that otome isekai and similar stories I read use. Let's, for the sake of convenience, call Han Myungoh 'FL' and Asmodeus 'ML'.
Our brave FL, after experiencing certain dealings with our ML, gets knocked up. She runs away, but in the process, gives birth to a child, who she loves with all her heart. But, at a certain point, she realizes she can no longer protect her child, so she turns to the only person who would have interest in doing the same thing: the other parent. Indeed, the other parent is interested in their child, and they form a contract: the FL is rewarded handsomely with status and protection in exchange for the child. The FL, in a weak position and having little other choice, accepts the contract, but resents it. She would do anything to get the child back, and does, in fact, do anything that the ML tells her to do, and...
And that's Han Myungoh. I fudged a little, but that's actually the canon plot for this guy in orv. I really didn't think much of this ship, but seriously, when I look at this way, it really does look like a standard otome isekai romance with a bastard male lead. I'm crying, this is hilarious. Is this what you saw, anon? This is so funny, I'm dying.
See, here's the thing, if this was an otome isekai, I could then tell you how this would go, which is this: while the FL resentfully does tasks for the ML, the ML grows to have a certain respect for the FL due to competence reasons, and the FL grows to appreciate ML for dispensing certain kindnesses (hey, stockholm syndrome!). Eventually, we get to a point where they're probably resentfully attracted to each other, but they both refuse to admit it, because FL still thinks ML is evil and ML thinks FL is beneath him. But then! But then something dramatic happens. Either FL's life or ML's life is threatened. Perhaps the child's life is threatened. Maybe all of the above. But anyway, there's some lifesaving going on, where FL/ML is so touched that the other saved them/had such concern for the child and then they declare their love for each other and then they officially get married and then it's a happily ever after and then I hurl my book across the room, probably.
I'm paraphrasing, there would probably be a bit more room between the lifesaving and getting married bit. Probably self awareness into the fact that they're in love and then an awkward "sorry I took your kid or whatever, let's go on a date" kind of dealio.
But I digress. Here's the thing. Here's the thing.
You could totally just write a canon divergence fic where everything I've just said happens, and it wouldn't even be hard. Sure, you'd have to nudge a few things over, but Han Myungoh does actually save Asmodeus's life once, even if is, you know, mostly related to Asmodeus being in his daughter's body, and Asmodeus briefly contemplates "is this what love is like?" or, you know, something like that. That actually does fit into the structure I've outlined above and I am banging my head onto my desk because of it.
This is so funny anon I am dying.
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yisanged · 6 months ago
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okok SO. 2 summers ago at the same summer camp im working at rn i worked with these two guys, didnt talk to them very much at all, but like i remember one of the only interactions i had with one of them (coworker A) was he was recommending orv to me (i had not read it at the time) and he had a jung heewon pfp.
skip forward to now, A and B are my coworkers again and im interacting w them more than i did 2 summers ago. now. A and B are like best friends theyre basically a matched set you literally will not see one without the other. im saying this because coworker B literally dresses like kdj and im like Does He Know.
B wears this white windbreaker with like. black pants black shirt underneath, he has like that kind of standard bowl cut ish haircut, hes asian, and i just like. with how close the two of them are theres no way it hasnt come up at LEAST once. Does He Know. and he wears this outfit like all the time. kdj ass fit. im. fjgkekgkskfkdfj but i cant say that bc it would be weird LMAOOOO
LMAO that is funny. I've actually been told I look like kdj too but for much less (white button down + asian + bangs that make it look slightly like I have a bowl cut if you ignore the rest of my hair) and I thought it was funny so I bet your coworker probably wouldn't mind either. Idk what your relationship is like obviously but I think you could bring it up at some point and segue into talking about orv with them if you wanted to regardless of whether he's doing a closet kdj cosplay look or not. I've personally experienced much bonding through orving it out with irls... my bet is that the guy totally is though or he at least knows that that's what it looks like. if his friend's an orvhead then i think you're right it definitely must've come up at some point! if you ever get confirmation you should update me..! I'm kind of invested now
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mimipuppet · 2 years ago
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mp100 x orv
i wonder how the characters in mp100 would be in orv so I made an au. psychic powers would still exist here and the timeline of mp100 would be around after the mogami arc but before the world domination arc
reigen would probably be as much of a bullshiter as he is in canon in orv. he would talk so much about how he has a powerful constellation sponsoring him when in reality he doesn't have any sponsor at all or a weak one may also claim to be a constellation himself
mob and reigen would probably be together during the first scenario and wouldn't kill a person but instead an insect, reigen would probably tell mob that since he is smart
ritsu would probably have the same idea and survive the first scenario
I'm mixed on how teru would do the first scenario but he would survive somehow, probs burning someone alive like he did in the 7th division arc
mob wouldn't choose a constellation at all since he doesn't like violence and would be mad at constellation for finding joy in suffering
mixed on whether ritsu would have a constellation but decided that he would since his goal is to survive and connect with his family
toichiro would excel in this environment let's be honest and would have a powerful constellation
psychics would attract a lot of attention from constellations due to their powers and would be curious about them since their powers aren't from constellations but born with them
so yeah whoever streams the seasoning city area would be lucky since there are quite a few psychics there (mob, ritsu, teru, the awakening kids, takenaka, etc)
I feel like the telepathy club would panic and kill someone and the body improvement club would crush a bug they are quite passive
tsubomi has a cunning nature but is kind hearted, I don't feel like she'd kill someone but then again I believe she would panic and kill someone similar to how that kokoro girl from yandere simulator killed the blonde and blue bully by smashing her over and over with a bat or she'd die
the 5 henchmen of toichiro would survive since they were all down for the world domination thing and would probably kill someone instead of a bug or animal, serizawa would have second thoughts but would comply when toichiro talks him into it
reigen and mob would be quite popular for different reasons
mob would be popular because of the curiosity of constellations wondering why he doesn't like to hurt people with his powers, pacifist constellations liking him for going the non-violent way, eden constellations would like him and uriel would like him and teru the same way she likes kdj and yjh relationship. some constellations would scoff at him but he would be well-known in general
reigen would be popular in like a kind of bad way, constellations would mostly scoff and roll their eyes at his bullshitting, and constellation would try to message mob multiple times about how he's a fraud but mob would just ignore it. they would be like 'ugh him again' some constellations do take a liking to him because man is funny and so embarrassing along with the fact he generally cares for mob. like half of his popularity would come from the fact that he's mob's mentor but then constellations would dub him the sweaty con man after a while
ritsu would team up with shou and his gang of 3 adults, he wouldn't be friendly with shou at first but their friendship would develop over time
ritsu and mob would reunite in the disaster scenario but their parents would be dead yay they're fatherless and motherless now
kdj would be so fucking confused on who they are since wos never mentioned them and would have a fucking breakdown like he had when he found out that the constellations knew something he didn't know from wos
may do more may not and abandon this au, it was just a random thought process I had
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iwritenarrativesandstuff · 2 years ago
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You've started reading Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint! For Han Sooyoung??? Story, you are the most valid ORV reader there is and I'm wishing you thoughts and strength for the coming destruction of sanity.
How are you finding it so far? (This is Note, btw, and feel free not to answer if you still want to withhold judgment)
Note!!! Yes, I did start!
Ahuhdfv yeah I had heard people talk about it before but I wasn't really looking to get into anything new atm so I thought ok, I'll check it out eventually. Like it sounds good but not right now. Then the yaoi polls started and people were telling me to vote joongdok so I did with like, zero understanding of what was happening but you know. Happy for you guys! And then there were a few memes and I was amused and said ok, it seems like I should really put this on my list. And then there was a post talking about how meta the themes are and that it's heavy on platonic love themes and it made people cry and I went oh. And then another said the women were distinct and well written and I went oh.
Yeah and then I saw people tagging these deranged posts with hsy and that decided it for me. Pleased to know she is every bit the chaos woman I thought she'd be, and I still feel like I barely know her at this point. Her and kdj's dynamic is ahafbvdhfvnv. Asshole besties. To me.
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I actually binged most of the webcomic in one day (I found it first) before I decided to stop and start from the beginning with the novel because I wanted more of kdj's narration! It's interesting... I know it's going somewhere very different from how it started and while I have some ideas, I'm very uncertain about them. There's so much going on. The entire cast is really fun and I'm intrigued by all of them. But. um. I have a lot of fondness for. Her.
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J-Jung Heewon... so cool............. (also she's funny as heck which is just a bonus at this point)
Love that Kim Dokja has surrounded himself with people who care about him deeply and 100% have his back but also would not hesitate to get his ass. Good for him, honestly.
Anyways I'm still catching up in the novel but I left off in the comic with yjh flipping out after kdj took a mortal blow for him and then going ballistic while affirming kdj as his companion only for dead kdj, who is watching all this go down, to immediately rationalize it as "ah he's trying to get coins". ............ How can he be so clever and also so dumb.
Who are your favourites btw? I imagine it may be for spoiler reasons but I'm still curious :D
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gffa · 1 year ago
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Started reading omniscient reader's viewpoint yesterday because of you and now I'm totally obsessed!!
I am delighted to be in ORV obsession hell with you! It's really a great blend of a super pretty webtoon + a really fun novel (reading the novel has really helped sooooo many nerdy worldbuilding questions I've had! "like, why doesn't KDJ just--" "because the Star Stream already thought of that and banned it" "ah, okay, that makes sense.") + a really fun main character dynamic + a DELIGHTFUL main character who is the most skrunkly asshole cat whomst we would die for that I have EVER met + a found family dynamic that really scratches the itch + a big, epic story that's about the fantasy tropes of it all, but even more is about the nature of stories and readers' involvement in the story. I'm so glad to share it because it hits in a fun id-pleasing place where the characters are beautiful and the banter is really funny and the art is amazing, but it's also a story that I'm developing a fondness for the narrative as I uncover more of it and read through the details of it, like I'm here for fun, but I'm also here because I eventually want to have things to say, and that's the perfect blend for me. Shit posts and serious conversations to be had? All wrapped up with thousands and thousands of stunning art pieces on Twitter? YES THANK YOU. I AM GLAD WE ARE HERE TOGETHER.
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orviposition · 1 year ago
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if you could, would you have wanted for 0!yjh to meet dkos even just for a short nice moment (besides the canon one at the very end)? even if he would forget about it all in the end? vahdhv jgdjk how would that even go in your head 🤣
though i know he didnt suffer the way 41!yjh did it'd be so funny to see his reaction since 41 had such a.. memorable one XD i love them dearly. i want them to lose their shit and be down bad for a man they never met lol 41 had not even had an inkling of kdj's existence before yet fainted at what. happiness?? lol. and imagining 0 who knows kdj and has been getting help from dkos seeing his face and talking to him makes me scream
oh. ohhh man yeah ive thought about it although very briefly cuz with the way the 0 storyline is structured leaves a lot of room for imagination but also makes it clear that kdj cannot descend. but let's just say it's not the case, how it would go. maybe they'd meet during constellation banquet. yjh would be invited as seoul's representative, although he has (maybe) no story to inherit and no regression restrains at the time.
in walks kdj. yjh notices. hes rather young and much inexperienced, not exactly hardened by regression depression and still has that light-in-his-eyes so to speak. for yjh I'd say the first meeting would be bordering cute-awkward angle. this is still the guy who was paying for their private midday tryst all the time btw (yes. even during 0th turn) surely there must've been a few dms outside the context of scenario revelations that the two of them shared
for kdj, on the other hand, he'd feel probably sad, maybe even silently cry a little. he misses his own yjh and his own companions too. while 49 was busy having existential dread, 51 was having the time of his life with 0 after all. he succeeded in making him happy regardless where that happiness lead him.
gonna be talking abt side story now
oh 41yjh is still so... the human personification of "the tip of the iceberg" we know nothing about that guy. kdj knows nothing about him. hsy has no idea who he is. kdjs narration about him is both at fault and not at fault at the same time. cuz the og 41st turn isnt even written in twsa to begin with. nor is the 40th turn written either. kdj saw the one short paragraph of 41yjh shutting off his heart during that turn and using his companions for his benefit and ran with it and you cant even blame him cuz thats the only thing tls123 wrote of that turn. hsy mentions at some point during the epilogue that she and yjh (1863rd turn) did talk about events of his past regressions so twsa is not all "hsy's imagination" and yjh also mentions to biyoo that he doesnt remember the 41st turn so what if it was 1863yjh the one who told hsy that exact paragraph?? thoughts like these keep me up at night
and contrary to kdj's narration and lhh's fears, 41 isnt actually a monstrous existence. he cares for people and helps them. he loves people and people love him in return just as much. he is confused this time around though I'll give him that much. there are strange people around him. people who know him and the scenarios. people who keep mentioning this guy named kim dokja so much even he gets curious about him. most importantly his "archenemy" of the previous round is *gasps* not evil anymore. he knows something is going on just is far away from finding out what exactly.
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