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carothehotmess · 2 years ago
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Goncharov has fallen from the number 1 trending spot because of Wednesday, Netflix’s Addams Family spin-off. And its mostly taken over that trending spot because everyone is shipping Wednesday and Enid, two girls who are polar opposites but are forced into spending time together by external circumstances (school + parents) and become very close friends and whose relationship is sprinkled with more than a few hints of romantic tension.
Ya know what was trending for days at number 1 right before Goncharov? Warrior Nun. A show where two young women who are polar opposites meet and are forced to spend time together due to external circumstances (demons + the church) and who become very close friends and whose relationship is showered with more than some hints of romantic tension, and who eventually confess their love for one another.
So if you’re following the trajectory of this site, the priorities of its users goes:
WLW Ship -> group daydream about homoeroticism in fictional film -> WLW Ship
Further proving that this site is absolutely run by the girls, the gays, and the theys.
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cafeleningrad · 2 years ago
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Fandom has issues with female characters, even more so with F/F ship.
Therefore it's amazing how from all possible stories a Scorsese movie got tumblr to spend an insane amount passion into an F/F ship. Like, don't get me wrong, Scorsese never writes women in an offensive way but when it comes to agency and personality they're more reflections on how machismo badly affects the male protagonist's life, including his loved ones - but for all my love for Marty and his work, that's the best that can be said about him writing his female characters. (Or they're entirely non-existent.)
So it's amazing, that Katya who gets a similar treatment like Karen Hill, in terms of appearance, and Sophia who's at best a side commentary on women in mafia structures (only appearing with short dialogue and only ever with Mario in the same scene) receive so much fandom love and passion. Usually that's only reserved for blorbofying tertiary third characters in other fandoms. Amazing, good work! This movie brings out the best in you!
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ship-my-pants · 2 years ago
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ROUND ONE
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missmahgenta · 2 years ago
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Writing lessons we can take from Goncharov (1973)
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Parallels, parallels, parallels: They can appear in many different ways, sometimes by repeating a single element (clocks are always in focus before something big happens), different characters having a similar storyline with similar elements (we see that with Mr. Goncharov and Andrey), different characters having polar opposite’s storylines ( Andrey and Katya are two good examples, as one of them is getting into a close relationship with Mr. Goncharov while the other growing apart from him every single day). Parallels are important because we, human beings, love recognizing patters in the things we consume, and as such that can help to better tell a specific theme or message.
Use colors to your favor: Colors are so important, and yet people sometimes resume them to just “the curtain is blue simply because it’s blue”. The scene where Katya and Sofia meet wouldn’t be the same without the incredible use of colours. Both of them were using neutral and rather cold colors in their clothing, which matched the distant and detached monochrome reality that they found themselves in, but the moment they crossed paths, the colors got more saturated and lively. The same can be said for the ending of Ice pick Joe’s character arc, who while was constantly seen with blood on his hands and clothes, never had blood on his clothes that contrasted so much with them, and that’s because for the first and last time, he feels regret and sorrow for taking someone’s life.
The clothes your characters use matter: Not every single aspect has to matter, but the most distinct ones should be able to assist in telling your audience what kind of character they are and what they are going through. Katya’s wardrobe starts as something very refined with loads of flowing layers and accessories, as she started as someone with a rather carefree nature and enjoyed showing herself off. Alas, with conflict arising in her life, her clothes get less and less ‘complex’, specially after almost dying at the boat scene. The colours also change, as said before. She started in beginning wearing exclusives white, but as the movie goes on, and after meeting with Sofia (whose main colour is black), she starts wearing more grays and dark greys. She’s getting less innocent, she’s maturing and is becoming more in sync with Sofia.
Dialogue is not only what your characters say: only 30% of the information transmitted during a conversation happens by speech. The rest is all facial expressions, body language in general (hand gestures, body positions, stimming, etc.) and what is left unsaid. A lot of the scenes between Mr. Goncharov and Andrey feel so homoerotic because of how their bodies behave, the lack of space between them and the brief pauses between certain phrases, to both breath and think of what was implied.
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callthefruitsquad · 2 years ago
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Did time mean nothing, or did time mean everything? After rewatching the cult classic Goncharov (1973) dir. Martin Scorsese, all I could think of was the other queer cult classic from the 70s. That’s when I blacked out and my hubris took over and now this exists. (link to redbubble shop here)
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rebewatson · 2 years ago
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Goncharov stars Al Pacino (Mario Ambrosini) and Robert DeNiro (Goncharov) reunite after Martin Scorsese and Matteo JWHJ0175’s 1973 classic comes back to light thanks to Tumblr.
“It’s still the work I’m most proud of” -Al Pacino
“That was the best movie Al and I ever made together, and that includes The Godfather Part II. Hell, it’s the best movie I’ve ever been in, and I starred in Taxi Driver.” -Robert DeNiro
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antonidomoni · 2 years ago
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Goncharov (1973)
I finally watched it and I HAD to make fanart of these scenes to cope, so let’s talk about the parallels between the apple scenes in this movie because I’m absolutely RABID about it:
The way that Sofia and Katya are in public, talking about things like love and duty as Sofia tries to convince her to leave Goncharov, and the growing tension as their hands touch reaching for an apple—they are facing the camera, their backs to all the people bustling along in the street behind them, they look guarded but in this brief moment there’s real tenderness and all the other people in the background melt into just color and movement. The apple is in the foreground, it is polished and almost perfect, resembling both the symbolic and anatomical heart, but it’s among a sea of apples that take up the whole scene, the apple itself being both a barrier and a temptation between them—much like the love and duty that Katya speaks of and feels bound by. Sofia’s gaze lingers longer than Katya’s but the focus never falls from their hands above the apple. There’s an unspoken longing that persists until the pearl scene—the very same pearls in this scene. The way the scene is lit makes you feel as though we are meant to be like Sofia, admiring the soft almost unreal beauty of Katya. Katya then hands Sofia this apple which feels deliberate, as they begin talking of Eve, which prompts Sofia to give her a pomegranate in return with a reference to Persephone, giving insight to how each see their own positions in the narrative—the sacrificial expectations on femininity—which feels almost foreshadowing…
Meanwhile, later in the movie we see Goncharov peeling an apple with a knife when Andrey enters the parlor, a normally well populated place but this is one of the few times they are alone together the whole movie. Goncharov is dressed down, he has his sleeves rolled up, his hair is even a little disheveled. He peels the whole skin in one long ribbon without looking up at Andrey, addressing him affectionately in spite of his own growing mistrust of Andrey (this is before the clocktower scene). Goncharov reveals he had won the duel with Mario hours earlier—hinting at perhaps why he looked as though he had cleaned himself up—and he slices into the apple and eats it off the knife. Andrey begins to warn him of his hubris as Goncharov cuts another slice free, offering it to Andrey by pressing the slice to Andrey’s lips at the end of his knife. Andrey stalls a moment, and they stare at each other. The camera is at their backs, showing an over the shoulder shot of the peeled apple between them in the middle of the scene—the seeds visible in both the apple and the severed slice implying Goncharov ate the slice in its entirety (apple seeds having small traces of cyanide, this feels VERY deliberate)—a sense of vulnerability and danger and perhaps even a hint of passion as the red walls of the parlor seem to isolate them from the rest of the story. Goncharov almost looks like he’s pleading silently with Andrey to just surrender to the temptation, and Andrey bites the slice off the knife smoothly, but after a couple long seconds of chewing, he spits the seed onto the floor. They are interrupted by Katya in her nightgown (having just found the warm gun in the previous scene) who doesn’t even flinch seeing them together this late in the night, only asking Goncharov if he would be coming to bed. Andrey takes his leave before Goncharov can answer…
The angst alone could power a small country. What an absolute masterpiece of cinema history🍎
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awkwardly-anxious-latte · 2 years ago
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RIP Noel Grueber you would have loved Goncharov
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kabuwu · 2 years ago
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The piece I did for the @goncharovzine which is available for free download !
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isoceles-square · 2 years ago
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me: sees any post about goncharov
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sweetsinbaby-art · 2 years ago
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Happy Yule! Might I offer you my latest contribution to the Goncharov fandom? It's based on the infamous deleted ballroom scene (﹡ˆ﹀ˆ﹡)♡
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imakequestionablechoices · 2 years ago
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Just thinking about Katya calling Sophia “Sonya” and at first Sophia is confused cause she’s not Russian, but eventually becomes the only person allowed to call Katya “Yekaterina”.
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narnia-dreamer · 2 years ago
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Katya Goncharova - Goncharov (1973)
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anaclarannd · 2 years ago
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i love how goncharov is a fake movie and it still has queerbaiting.
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maironmichaelis · 2 years ago
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littlemyrtilleart · 2 years ago
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Hope i'm not too late to hop on the Goncharov (1973) train
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"Some say that pomegranate was the real apple of Eve, fruit of the womb, I would eat my way into perdition to taste you."
Damn this line 😩
Fr the fruit stand scene did something to me
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