#katherine karlo

[professoruber]

Thoughts and speculation regarding Meridian before Birds of Prey (2023-) #5 drops!

Spoilers for Birds of Prey (2023-)

Please also keep in mind I am a novice when it comes to comics and their lore. I am also tired and writing this in my iPad, so please let me know if I am misremembering or overlooked any details.

Maps Mizoguchi! Or rather, Meridian! A very surprising addition to the latest Birds of Prey series. As someone who is a fan of Gotham Academy, even sometime before I started really becoming interested in comics like I have been recently, this definitely caught my attention and has led me to following this series in interest.

However… currently I have a number of thoughts of Meridian which I would like to get off my chest now before #5 releases and either gives us more questions or (hopefully) more answers.

I suppose my big question thus far is… why Maps in particular? Especially given the fact that her constant departures due to the apparent limitations of her time travel tech means she subsequently has limited ‘screen time’ to justify her involvement. Why was it a time travelling future Maps who kicked off events and not anything else?

I like Maps, but I still have begin to find her role somewhat odd; perhaps in large part due to a simple question it raises….

Is Meridian Maps’ destined future hero persona (instead of Robin)?

Maps wants to be Robin, it’s been a thing since Gotham Academy, and it’s a goal which has been given both some focus and some credit via both the main Batman run and also the non-canon Batman Black and White.

The goal of becoming Robin is one which she was shown to be still determined towards even after experiencing the dangers which would come with the job.

So with this in mind, it seems kinda odd how they’ve also introduced the Meridian persona for Maps. While I do like the name well enough, the fact that it’s a geography term being a neat nod to her nickname, I can’t also help but notice that Meridian… doesn’t really seem to display any of the typical Robin or Bat-related skillsets?

She teleports around and shoots people with lighting, and I’m pretty sure that’s about it. She doesn’t appear to be notably tactical, nor does she display any martial arts (she just points her fist and shoots), which is honestly a tad disappointing. Maybe that’s just me, but I guess it just feels a bit odd.

Cresting such advanced technology also wasn’t exactly something I’d expect from Maps; but tbh she would’ve had plenty of time to learn science as she grew up so… hm.

Does this mean Maps is not going to become Meridian? Maybe?

Possibilities

A very interesting observation and suggest by @transpanda-1 was that Meridian was not in fact Maps Mizoguchi, but rather Katherine Karlo (the blonde girl picture with Maps in the comic snippet a little higher up); the daughter of Clayface. This is based both on uncharacteristic behaviour from Maps herself as well as her departure being described as looking like she is “made of dirt”, a very specific and odd way of describing what would otherwise be assumed by readers to be her disappearing in a flurry of static or energy.

Of course; any oddities, as well as any differences in the behaviours and skillsets of Maps vs Meridian, could be easily justified by the fact Meridian apparently comes from a post apocalyptic future, plus the general effects of aging.

But even still, I do really like this theory and think it makes a decent amount of sense. Especially given the whole “dirt” descriptor.

Katherine Karlo has displayed the ability to be at multiple places at once in the past, seemingly controlling multiple bodies with the same consciousness. She has also impersonated Maps in the past.

However, Katherine appears to be inspired by Annie, a character from BTAS who iirc was a ‘daughter’ Clayface who was created when part of him got separated from his main body and so developed a distinctive identity seperate from the main consciousness. I don’t think Katherine’s backstory has been delved into (correct me if I’m wrong) but I assume it was something similar. Therefore, if she is Meridian then perhaps the reason Meridian keeps disappearing is because maintaining control of a part of her so far away takes a significant amount of effort? Or maybe it is a time travelling Katherine instead?

Hard to say for sure. And also probably doesn’t exactly explain the lighting powers. But tbh I kinda would also kind of prefer this?

Would give Maps more of an opening/hope to still become Robin one day.

Motivations and Answers

This is the final bit of this rather long-ish post which may or may not get totally disproved by #5 tomorrow. But I’ve gotten this far so might as well cap off my thoughts.

If I remember correctly; Meridian is the reason for the general secrecy of this mission, not only from Diana and the other Amazons, but also from Barbara. I feel that big secrets from close allies, especially given Babs’ importance to the Birds of Prey, require big reasons. But from what I can recall we have yet to get any actual look into her reasons… or how she convinced Dinah for that matter (it’s not as if Maps Mizoguchi is some close confidant of hers, I doubt they’ve met before this).

If Meridian is a time traveler then perhaps she’s already attempted this mission via other methods which have failed, hence the reason for specific exclusions this time around?

Or maybe this is an evil future/alternate self kind of deal. I don’t think Meridian has acted overly suspicious apart from this secrecy but it’s still possible. At the very least, she may not have been entirely upfront with all her plans/motive/knowledge.

For all we know, maybe Barbara is involved and pulling the strings for whatever reason? Maybe not, but still.

I guess the reason I’m thinking on this is I feel excluding Barbara and causing a “hero vs hero” conflict seems like the kinds of things which require a very good reason for. And Dinah presumably found said reasoning quite convincing since she went along with it.

If Meridian isn’t from the future, then that just adds further mystery since it means for some reason Katherine Karlo (or someone pulling her strings) has posed as a future version of Maps to direct the Birds of Prey in a mission to rescue Sin. Why all this deception would be needed is another question (assuming she’s not from the future, anyway).

Conclusions

Let’s start wrapping things up. Despite my confusion/semi-complaints, I’ve generally enjoyed Birds of Prey so far and am looking forward to seeing how the story continues. I also am a fan of Maps and am curious at what kind of role she will have as this fort continues, and I also hope she gets her overall dream of becoming Robin one day.

Maps would make an awesome Robin.

For now I guess we shall see whether #5 provides any answers, and if it does then we’ll see if my random speculation and thoughts were off the mark or not,

[cephalog0d]

Presenting: Yet another entry in Bruce trying his damnedest to get this random child to NOT go out crime fighting, and utterly failing.

(Source: Batman (2016))

[transpanda-1]

Birds of Prey might feature Katherine Karlo in the near future

So for those of you not in the know, the new (gorgeously drawn) Birds of Prey is following Black Canary saving her sister from a doomsday scenario, and featuring a breakout role for Maps Mizoguchi, a character who was prominent in Gotham Academy

But, from careful observation (straw grabbing and bias), there might be another from Gotham Academy making an appearance, Katherine

Katherine Karlo is one of Maps' closest friends and her main roommate for the run of Gotham Academy (pretty sure). While not altogether that important in the run, she made a notably important role with Maps in the mainline Batman comics.

Now Maps getting a leading role, even if for one story, in a main Batman comic probably helped keep her on people's minds before her debut as superhero from the future, Meridian.

BUT Katherine being included could be indicative of the same treatment, even if a lesser role!

Furthermore, we'd like to point out one of the characters being included in the new BOP run is Cassandra Cain, who some readers may remember as being one of the very few genuine friends made of Katherine's dad Basil Karlo, AKA Clayface

Intentionally or not, we now have two characters on the team who have had very close ties to a shapeshifting clay Karlo. Bordering on "one of very few friends" territory, too.

(Unsure if Harley should be counted with her show heavily featuring Clayface, but just mentioning that. Clayface is sort of making a surge in relevance lately with The Batman II slated to feature him)

We're getting into stretching territory, but there's a few more things we want to mention that... *could* be something, but might not.

First, this mission involves going to Themyscira, or the islands of the Amazons that Wonder Woman originates from. Who... is made of clay

It's unknown if Wonder Woman will appear, but they do actively talk about her in the second chapter, which may be foreshadowing. But she is a canon clay woman! (We also heard Nubia may be too?)

A lot of clay character hovering around the skirts of this story...

Second is... this specific wording from Big Barda when Maps goes back to the future(?)

"The one from the future was made of dirt?" ...Dirt? Why dirt? She looks more like snow, or potentially electricity or static. And Big Barda is smart, she's royal and uses boom tubes to travel great distances across space. Dirt's, well, brown, Barda knows that.

"Made of dirt" is a small line but it doesn't really make sense to us based both on the visual AND the character's knowledge. Unless it's supposed to mean "We need to allude to clay/mud but can't SAY say clay or mud because that's too obvious." Made of dirt too, there's just a lot to possibly unpack there.

But the weird thing is the only thing we can really pull from that is... could Katherine is pretending to be Maps *right now*?

Unlikely, but it might explain why peppy, hyperexcitable Maps's adult self was... oddly quiet after introducing herself. Not to mention she'd leave right before the part of the mission that involves swimming...

She at least seems to be working with someone, judging by the way her little device goes off (or hit her time travel time limit, idk...!)

(Also we're a bit curious why her superhero name is Meridian specifically. It's a geographical map term to describe lines going upwards from the north to south pole, and there's a prime Meridian, which is cute for Maps' dnd obsession but is there something more?)

We understand if Katherine doesn't make an appearance, but we hope we maybe convinced you how there could be a chance for the character to appear sometime in the story!!

Thank you for reading through this and listening to our rambles about a fellow clay girl...! (-Annie🤎)

[skeith-platinumprincess]

Today I have become aware of Katherine Karlo, the daughter of Clayface. She deserves a lot of love

[fancyfade]

I really feel like Annie from the Animated Series would make a really cool addition to canon. Maybe that's just personal bias tho.

A similar concept exists with Katherine Karlo in Gotham Academy. Clayface is her father (I think she's like a bit of him that is broken off and then becomes her own person). She helps the Gotham Academy kids go on adventures and avoid their responsibilities by shapeshifting into them for decoys if needed.

gotham academy #12

[orange-s-mario]

Drew every clayface and clayface-like and clayface related character there are a lot

[transpanda-1]

🫖Something else to, consider, is that CONSISTENTLY, over many portrayals of Clayfaces, a chunk will often separate away from the main body and gain it's own consciousness into a girl specifically!

The three main times we can think of are Annie from DCAU, Katherine Karlo, and Ms. Clay! 🫶🏽

There is probably, more, examples but there is a trend of something in Clayfaces feeling more comfortable, as a, woman! 🫶🏽

CLAYFACE from BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES

JUSTIFICATION:

"Clayface was a conventionally attractive movie star that was taking special facial cream because they hated how they looked. They took too much of the cream and it turned them into a big lumbering sagging monster that looks like the personification of gender dysphoria. Almost any time they have to blend into a crowd they choose a feminine form to shape shift into. The first time she is defeated it is when Batman shows her a bunch of pictures of her old self and it causes her to flip out." - @pterodactylwoman

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[shakertwelve]

Thoughts on Maps, robinhood, and whether she's made more interesting or harmed by the association with the mantle?

i definitely haven't read enough robin comics to have anything insightful to say about the nature of 'robinhood' (heh) in general, but yeah, i think they should keep writing maps robin stories. by the time gotham academy's story wraps up, maps has come to understand the danger that supervillains can pose, struggled with conflicted feelings about whether or not calamity "deserves" to be saved, and decided in the end that her own values compel her to do so anyway. it feels very fitting for her next step to be superheroism and seeing where that moral foundation takes her both in conflicts with other villains and in collaboration with batman (maps idolizes and broadly agrees with batman, but notably, when she yells that olive should be locked up like batman locked up her mother so the world will be safe, it only makes the situation worse; there's a lot of potential for future batman-and-maps adventures to find moments where she might disagree with him and eventually come have a more complex mental image of him as a person). and it would be lame if they shunted her off the robin route too quickly to put her with the batgirls or some other designated "girl" team, when maps doesn't just want to be a hero, she wants to be robin, specifically. her becoming meridian or some other cape in the future will only be satisfying if it comes after she's had time to inhabit the robin role, learn what it's really like to be robin and what kind of person batman really is, and develop her own idea of what kind of hero she wants to be.

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THE COTTAGECORE MARI AU PROMPT THAT NOBODY ASKED FOR

Pairing: Daminette (edit: they’re like 19/20 in this, post high-school)

Rating: It has mature themes, you have been warned. But it’s pretty tame at the same time. Violence + Sexual Themes

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Mari is diagnosed with PTSD and anxiety disorder after she quite literally removed her beloved city’s supervillain (and her dear partner’s parent) from the plane of existence. Like she removes the suffering from the minds of all of Paris and has Gabriel written off in a car accident a year after his wife’s disappearance. Only her Court (Adrien, Kagami, Zoe, Alix, Max) and the Order remembers. Mari and Adrien decide not to pursue a relationship. They’re both healing and are decidedly better off friends - siblings in everything but blood.

Lila, who was not punished due to her not really being a miraculous holder and upsetting the balance, continues to slander Mari. Her class isn’t hostile but has no desire to interact with the “new and mean Marinette” Lila was painting her to be. It’s still a huge betrayal given the fact that Mari was supportive and very generous to these people.

So here’s how her new housing arrangement works: have you ever wondered how Gina can afford to travel around the world without a job? Yeah, I think she came from money. Like, old money - real estate old money to be precise. Passive income and such. Hearing about her Fairy’s situation, she offers an unused property at the countryside of Metropolis.

Marinette’s therapist and parents approve of her vacationing there for the summer when they realize that her stressors and triggers where all environmental. So off our girl goes!

Note: She does not have the mother box with her anymore, just Tikki, Plagg, and Kaalki. (She does have unrestricted access to it as the Grand Guardian though - she trains with the Order once a week in Tibet until she doesn’t)

Mari is aware of the Supers and was relieved that the Kwamis don’t show up in x-ray visions and with the fear of them eavesdropping she learns FSL to communicate with them.

The townhouse and the verdure around the property inspires Mari to start a garden. The quiet oddly soothes her and when she feels lonely she goes into town or the nearby farmer’s market where she charms the locals. She meets the Kents - they love her! Martha enjoys baking with her. Lois uncovers her identity as Jagged and Clara Nightingale’s exclusive (and reclusive) designer - they bond over fashion trends and the gossip surrounding the industry. Clark and Jon were another story.

She figures them out having sensed the same soul in Superman and Superboy in this father-and-son duo. They x-ray her as a precaution and finds the mysterious cracks and evidence of past injuries that should have killed her. There’s a very anti-climatic reveal that Martha and Lois are not privy to with respect to Marinette’s wishes.

At least one Kent would be in her home during the day. The Kwamis are free to roam around when it was Clark and/or Jon visiting. She ends up bonding with Jon who also grew up too fast (metaphorically and literally).

She ends up extending her stay in Metropolis indefinitely. Her parents also decided to open a branch of their patisserie there which Mari managed. They visit her as often as they could.

Mari was dismayed to find that no, Metropolis had no schools with both a fashion and business degree - that’s how she ends up in Gotham University.

Jon tells Mari about a Damian - a friend of his.

J: He’s…. uh… he has a big heart.

M: …

J: He’s a bit of an asshole(?)

M: Ah.

Mari meets Damian who reminds her of Kagami - antisocial and proper. They share a few business classes and are both members of the art club.

Mari is still this ball of anxiousness and has only allowed Mia “Maps” Mizoguchi and Katherine Karlo into her life, the former she learned was close to Damian - she didn’t mind when she and the girls met up with Damian, he was quiet, honest, and minded his own business. Through their hangouts Damian finds out about the friendship between Jon and Mari.

He’s hesitant to befriend her at first due to the conflicting rumors about her: due to her timid personality she had a split reputation. One side called her sweet, shy, and kind. While the other calling her arrogant, high-maintenance, and rude. He soon finds out that the latter half were spread by cliques who’s offer of friendship she declined and men she rejected. He was glad that he relented to Maps’ insistent invitations - she was a decent person to hang out with and it didn’t hurt that she was pleasing to the eye. (She also enjoyed sharing her vegetarian salads with him - he starts appreciating it more when he learns that she picks the vegetables straight from the garden she grows.)

As her luck would have it, a robbery unfolds at one of their favorite coffee spots. Mari and Damian - who were both pretending to be civ - try to find a way to protect their friends. The robbers recognizes Damian as a Wayne and takes him and another GU(a school for rich and affluent people’s children) kid - Marinette - who had stood in front of her friends.

They’re gagged, blindfolded, and carted off to who knows where. Damian discreetly activates a distress signal and the bats spur into action. Mari, aware that she was sturdier than Damian, draws the men’s attention to her (she purposely pisses them off and gets beaten up when they start to pester Damian).

M: [removes her gag somehow] Really? A ski mask? And in black? How boring can you get?

*Damian shaking his head furiously in the background*

Kidnapper(KN): Shut up, girlie!

M: You know I always wondered how Kidnappers could have a secret a warehouse as a hideout. It’s not like you can afford the rent—

KN: Are you trying to get yourself killed?

M: You’re backed up by some politician aren’t you?

KN: H-How the fuck did this bitch know?

M: There’s literally a stack of campaign papers behind you.

KN: Wha—

M: That’s some shit graphic design by the way. I’ve seen grade schoolers that can do better.

KN: [points a gun at her] Shut up or I’ll blow your brains out.

M: You wouldn’t.

KN: The fuck do you know—

M: You need me alive to get ransom from my parents.

KN: …Nobody said you had to be in one piece though.

M: Touché—[get slapped hard]

*Damian basically starts convulsing in the background*

M: …Damn. You punch like a cunt—[And the kidnappers basically start to rough her up]

The bats arrive in five minutes and it’s Red Hood that finds them first. He sees these mf’s beating up a woman and goes ballistic(pun intended). Red Robin and Spoiler has to forcibly restrain him when he starts to use his fist instead of his guns.

M: [bleeding and bruised] And that’s how you deck someone, you amateurs.

D: [who was released by Black Bat is confused, mad at himself, and in awe] You blithering idiot! Why the fuck would you aggravate our captors like that?

M: [delirious] It was either you or me Damian. Can’t have your pretty face damaged now, can we?

D: [Is floored and very concerned] And what of yours?

M: … dun worry—my assets are…elsewhere… [passes out from the pain]

D: …

Later, his family would tease him about the flirting when he isn’t all sensitive about the incident.

Winter break comes, most of the Batfam visits the Kents(they have a penthouse/some ridiculous property in Metropolis) as a tradition. The Kents went to visit Gotham and stayed at the manor last year.

(Batfam who went: Bruce, Dick, Jason, Steph, Cass, and Damian)

They visit Mari too. Dick and Steph are absolutely thrilled about her cottagecore lifestyle. So much so that they match her aesthetic and begin helping out in the garden - they send pictures to Alfred who request they bring back fresh produce.

Jon and Jason plot to get Damian and Mari together. Unbeknownst to them that Damian was already resolute on courting Mari like the decorous man that he was - he didn’t know what he was doing but Mari’s flush when he initiates flirting tells him he’s doing okay.

Because of his childhood, Damian was never the type to be touchy but imagine his shock when he finds out that one of his more prominent love languages was physical touch. He realizes he’s touch-starved almost immediately when Mari starts giving him small touches like a hand against his bicep, she had a fondness for touching his hair which never failed to deliver a shiver down his spine, and hugs from her are comforting - she felt like home.

Meanwhile Mari does not have any idea how she survived the early stages of Damian’s advances. He was blunt and did not pull his words with insults but it apparently translated to him being verbally open with his affections.

M: I always wanted to be the Knitting Fairy while growing up.

D: Does it not please you that you became a garden fairy instead?

M: Huh, that doesn’t sound so bad.

D: Well, you certainly look the part.

M: [turns into the same shade as the poppy beside her]

And then when the tension between them became more prominent he wasn’t shy with dropping innuendos too.

M: [open’s the door for Damian, haggard from lifting sacks of garden soil] Oh, I didn’t know you were coming so early. I’m a bit of a mess. Sorry.

D: [Tilts his head] You say that as if I wouldn’t appreciate you sweaty and tousled after a rigorous activity.

M: [self-combusts]

And when the touching began?

M: Damian, what color do you think looks better with this shade of blue?

D: [places a hand on her side while looking over her shoulder] I think the a more neutral cream would do.

M: [stops functioning]

Their first kiss?

Pulled straight out of a book that Marinette only read in the privacy of her bedroom.

They’re teasing each other, it evolves to a game of cat and mouse with Damian skillfully evading her. She corners him by turning on some of her sprinkles. He gets wet, growls in the way he would in Mari’s dreams, and pulls of his shirt. She’s too distracted by the hard planes of his stomach to notice him prowling towards her like a beast moving to claim his prey. He picks her off the ground with ease - he’s a foot taller than her - and takes her to the sprinklers.

(I’m going to write this part out properly, maybe to inspire myself or a potential adopter of this prompt)

“Nononono!” Marinette shrieks as the first round of water splashes her. She writhes but Damian had her arms held down her sides.

“All is fair in love and war, Ya Amar.” She ignores the endearment in favor of closing her eyes as the sprinkles rotate in their direction again. But she knows what it means. Ya Amar. My moon. His moon. The water had nothing on the chill that ran down her spine

The water stars seeping into her intimates and she’s soberly aware that the light fabric of her dress would betray her. It doesn’t take long for Damian to discover that fact, he releases a strangle sound. She opens her eyes, he snaps his eyes from where he was clearly looking at her chest. He scrambles to drop her.

“Shit— I’m sorry. This was not my intention—“ he starts but she’s faster. Her now free arms grasps his shoulders and without a second thought, she drops her lips to meet his. Damian inhales sharply and he tilts his head, temporarily breaking the kiss before raising her higher and pulling her by the back of neck - he kisses her with hunger and passion that has Marinette melting further against his chest.

She wraps her legs around his back and he moves to tightly grasp both the back of her thighs. She would worry about bruises later when she didn’t have Damian’s tongue caressing her own. He drops them to the ground and Marinette does not release her hold over his waist. She whines against his lips when she feels the consequences of their activity.

His hands start wandering as he greedily collects and files the sounds that leaves her lips. He begins to trail kisses down her neck to the neckline of her dress that now clung to her body like a second skin giving him his first peek at the maddening shape of her body. And just when he trails a finger against the underside of her breast a loud noise pulls them apart.

Jason finds them and the sight in Mari’s garden has him dropping the shovel he was asked to bring over.

J: Fuck! No, don’t stop! Hell—I’ll leave—I didn’t see shit!

D: [moving to cover Marinette who covered her face in embarrassment] Fuck off, Todd!

J: I’m sorry! [slams the door shot]

D: Tt.

J: [shouts from inside the house] Use protection!

D: Todd!

They started officially dating that day and Jason had no reservations in sharing that he definitely cockblocked his little brother much to Mari and Damian’s horror.

Both keeps the PDA to minimum in school but it was very clear how amorous they where in “private”. There is a table in the art hall that Mari can’t quite look at without blushing to her roots.

She finds out he’s Robin after her first encounter with his alter-ego. He confesses his past when she confronts him. There’s fear of abandonment in his eyes when he gazes at her after his spiel but she kisses his worries and doubts away. She even goes to show her appreciation for his years of service to Gotham.

Her reveal happens when she unceremoniously drops a vial in Jason’s hand claiming that it would remedy the effects of the Lazarus pits with continuous use - it was completed after a year in the making.

Cardinal joins the Batfam occasionally as part of Batman’s contingency plans. They respect her choice as a retired super-soldier and try to keep her out of the business which she appreciates. She is officially initiated as a member of Justice League Dark as an informant/magic specialist and a wildcard.

Years later, she legally inherits the property from Gina when she and Damian get engaged. Damian moves in with her and she lives her cottage life all while being a reclusive designer that comes out once in a while for fashion week.

FIN

AN:

Maybe there’s a Lila take down somewhere but I don’t have the energy to write her at all. We all know its Damian and Tim that makes sure she never sets a foot in high society ever again.

Ig add some details about learning to healthily cope with her anxiety disorder under the guidance and love of her found family? (I have a similar illness but me and my therapist are still figuring it out so I have little idea how to write this) Her PTSD does not need further discussion (miss ma’am had to kill someone) but her anxiety disorder stems from the fact the she’s a person who’s in charge of world-ending powers - everyone and even yourself can become untrustworthy. She starts to get nervous from misreading body languages and everyone is suddenly out to get her.

[flickynightdarkness]

Info about my DC OCs

Benjamin Williams

Ally of Batman

Good

Night Edwards

Ally of Nightwing

Good

Tootsie Jingles

Aids Joker (originally they were gonna be adopted by him)

Inspired by Fizzarolli from Helluva Boss

Clowncore

Neo demon

Evil

Jamie Quinzel

Adopted daughter of Harley Quinn

Younger cousin of Blade Quinzel

Evil

Blossom Isley

Adopted daughter of Poison Ivy

Friends with Jamie Quinzel

Younger sister of Vince Isley

Evil

Ray Nygma

Adopted son of The Riddler

Friends with Trace Dent

Evil

Trace Dent

Adopted daughter of Two Face

Looks exactly like him but she hates when anyone says it to her

Friends with Ray Nygma, Meredith Miranda and Evelyn Wesker

Evil

Kraig Jones

Adopted son of Killer Croc

Very aggressive

Has anger issues, tends to get angered easily

Evil

Shows a soft side to his allies, especially Fangs Langstrom

Allies with Lucian, Kaleb and Fangs

Talon Cobblepot

Adopted son of Penguin

Bird lover

Younger brother of Feather Cobblepot

Evil

Katherine Kyle-Angela

Adopted daughter of Catwoman

Cat lover

Youngest child of Mr Angela and Mrs Angela (formerly)

Younger sister of Katelyn Kyle

Neutral

Katelyn Kyle-Angela

Adopted daughter of Catwoman

Oldest child of Mr Angela and Mrs Angela (formerly)

Older sister of Katherine Kyle

Cat lover

Neutral

Toffee Karlo

Created by Clayface

Clay demon

Evil

Can morph her limbs but unable to shapeshift into others

Berg Fries

Oldest child of Mr Freeze and Nora Fries

Older brother of Snow Fries

Cousin of North

His body was frostbitten when he was sprayed liquid nitrogen

His goggles were given by Mr Freeze to use

Evil

Evelyn "Evie" Wesker

Evil

Adopted daughter of Ventriloquist

Cousin of Michele and Michelle

She is aided along with her ventriloquist dummy Stitcher. The two share a positive to eachother

Stitcher

Ventriloquist dummy

Created by Evie's cousin Michele

Evil

He is shown to have a soft side to Evie

Hallow Crane

Evil

Youngest adopted child of Scarecrow

Younger brother of Lauren and Laurent

Cousin of Craven and Lunar

Is a living scarecrow but was a child at first (he originally was gonna be a human in a scarecrow costume

Friends with Meredith, Echo and Spook

Shade Miranda

Neutral but mostly on the evil

Ally of Scarecrow

Foster mother of Meredith and Myers

Shows respect for the Wayne family but only does it if Scarecrow isn't around with her

Acts as a mentor to Hallow's studies on fear

Wife of Nathaniel

Meredith Miranda

Foster daughter of Shade and Nathaniel

Sister of Myers

Friends with Hallow, Evelyn, Trace, Flakes, Echo and Spook

Evil

Refers to Scarecrow as 'Dr. Crane'

Scotch Tetch

Youngest adopted son of Mad Hatter

Younger brother of Bowie Tetch

Evil

Kaleb Langstrom

Oldest child of Man-Bat and She-Bat

Older brother of Fangs Langstrom

Evil

Became a bat after he had the same serum his father had

Fangs Langstrom

Youngest child of Man-Bat and She-Bat

Younger sister of Kaleb

Neutral but mostly on the evil

Provided as an emotional support companion for Kraig Jones' anger issues

Feather Cobblepot

Adopted daughter of Penguin

Older sister of Talon

Mean towards anyone except her younger brother Talon(she cares for him) and her adopted dad(she is loyal to)

Evil

Coona Walker

Adopted by Killer Moth

Moth

Evil

Torch Lynns

Adopted son of Firefly

Twin brother of Ember

Evil

Spook

"Experiment" of Scarecrow (they were originally was made to be his creation)

Living scarecrow

Mostly hides in his hat

Evil

Friends with Hallow and Meredith

Echo

Evil

Allies with Hallow, Meredith, Spook and Flakes

Adopted by Scream Queen

Tanny

Trans MTF

Adopted by Mrs Manface and Babyface

Evil

Leader Scorch

Inspired by Father from Kids Next Door

Runs an academy for young rogues

Evil

Harrison, Carrie and Misty

Inspired by the Delightful Children From Down The Lane from Kids Next Door

They speak by unison

Claimed by Leader Scorch as his creations

Evil

Betty The Blob Caretaker

Takes care thousands of blob creatures

Female

Good

Lucian Dorrance

Adopted son of Bane

Wears a mask on his face to hide his scars

Speaks in a thick Spanish accent

Evil

Metro

Young ally of Superman

Good

Volt

Young ally of The Flash

Good

Emerald

Young ally of Green Lantern

Good

Blank

Young ally of Question

Good

Bullet

Adopted by Deathstroke

Evil

Allies with Torch and Ember

Topher

Aids Deacon Blackfire

Possesses demon transformation by his rage

Evil

Swirl

Aids Professor Pyg

Italian-American

Evil

Cheryl

Topher's ally/servant

Obeys to what Topher says to her

Neutral but mostly on the evil

Dust Edwards

He is shown to not get along with Hallow, the two would argue on who is a better friend to Meredith

Evil

Friends with Meredith

Colton Snart

Adopted by Captain Cold

Evil

Friends with Berg, Snow and Toffee

Scorch

Aids Heatwave

Evil

Cloudy

Aids Weather Wizard

Really calm

Evil

Has an ability involving their emotions being the weather; sunny - happy, rain - sad and thunder - angry

Stormer

Aids Weather Wizard

Chaotic

Evil

Ability to unleash thunderstorms

[deathiscoldbatman]

Ah yes, I debated mentioning Katherine. Really makes you wonder, doesn't it? She's yet another character who probably won't exist outside of the 1 miniseries she was in, because DC discards characters as fast as some people drink water...

You 🤝 us: MATT HAGEN BTAS IS GAY AND NO ONE CAN TAKE THAT AWAY

(Seriously though we love him being closeted gay it adds so damn much to his character of constantly trying to achieve that “perfect Hollywood man” that defines his character. Even though we don’t like the episode Growing Pains him going after Annie to essentially suppress an aspect of himself, a child that identifies as a girl, feels like something too you know??)

Glad to find common ground. Personally, I headcanon Basil as closeted gay as well, though I will have to admit it makes more sense in the context of the Golden Age where being gay was...literally illegal in America. Interestingly, DC later did the same thing as Annie with Basil, where a part of him broke off, decided it was female, and developed her own identity [Ms. Clay]. Are Matt Hagen and Basil Karlo a trans allegory? Yeah maybe, it would be fun to explore but I doubt DC Comics will ever do that. My/Earth 3577's Karlo was a drag queen for a time, if nothing else.

[gothams-problem-children]

Hey michael! I was just wondering... do you have any thoughts on katherine karlo? does she exist in your universe, or just this one lmao? ^w^

”I’ve never heard of her. So she must just exist in your universe. Kinda like Cameron and Michelle’s situation. Though I would love to meet her at some point!”

[transpanda-1]

Happy Halloween everyone...! We wrote a fic starring everyone's favorite clay girl and Clay... face! Also featuring Katherine "Hagen" and Maps Mizoguchi!

"Annie was fine being dormant in Matt while on his date at the park, but when his daughter Katherine brings Annie out to give her a meaningful present, how can she communicate how it really makes her feel?"

We gotta go to work ASAP now, see you all later...!!!! 🤎

[karlohabagatstudios]

[MMD Crossover] The Union of Light (KHS Version)

"There is nowhere to run! Nowhere to hide! We have banded together to rid all timelines of your evil! The threat you posed to them ends today!" - Karlo Habagat (as Fire God Liu Kang)

Hey, guys! Here's the pic I made that is based on one of the most chaotic chapters in Mortal Kombat 1: Armageddon! In here, like the original, this version of the Union of Light comprised of various individuals from across all timelines, which also included good counterparts of Gamma, Niles, Risky Boots, Sarionto Fegrito, Dimitri Reznov and other characters, who were considered villains in previous timelines. And instead of Fire God Liu Kang, it was assembled by Prince Karlo Habagat in order to destroy Titaness Kayla Amihan and her timeline.

Enjoy!

CREDITS Special thanks to Katherine-1208 for the TDA Hoodie Len model, CSLeader for the Alex Spider model, SAB64 for the Shantae model, omega-slender for the Mimi Sentry model, the Glitch Productions team for the Axol model, and many others for the TF2, Half-Life 2, Garry's Mod, and Call of Duty models. All characters belong to their respective owners. • Battlefield 3, ©EA DICE and Electronic Arts • Senran Kagura, ©Tamsoft and Marvelous AQL • Shantae, ©WayForward Technologies • Team Fortress 2 and Half-Life 2, ©Valve • Call of Duty, ©Treyarch and Activision • SMG4, ©SMG4 and Glitch Productions • Mortal Kombat 1, ©WB Games and NetherRealm Studios

[shokuto]

Katherine Karlo

[oncegreatness]

There's something wrong with him.

You might say that every child needs the love of a parent. That every child needs a parent to begin with. Yes, that sounds about right; doesn't it? Well, Basil never quite had that. Lucretia and William Karlo were socialites before anything else, their production of an heir moreso to give them both something to talk about at functions. Neither particularly wanted a child. Of course, it was once commonplace in America to treat one's children like smaller adults, but from the moment Basil was born he was treated as a means to an end. Still; his father grew used to the boy. His mother did not. Perhaps that's why she met an end at his teeth.

As the great Philip Larkin once said:

They fuck you up, your mum and dad.

They may not mean to, but they do.

They fill you with the faults they had

And add some extra, just for you.

But they were fucked up in their turn

By fools in old-style hats and coats,

Who half the time were soppy-stern

And half at one another’s throats.

Man hands on misery to man.

It deepens like a coastal shelf.

Get out as early as you can,

And don’t have any kids yourself.

... unfortunately, he's just as awful of a parent to Katherine/Annie as his parents were to him. It wasn't his intention to have children, either. And so, the cycle repeats.