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phierie · 2 years ago
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in every fandom there comes a time when you have to ask yourself, ok but what classes would these characters be if they were in D&D
overlong headcanons/design notes under the cut:
I based this AU off my rudimentary knowledge of D&D and it’s classes, but I’m taking creative liberties and it can be thought of as just a general fantasy rpg-style thing. Ended up being a mix match of comics and MCU but it’s an AU so hey it’s fine right lol
KAMALA - Sorcerer/Monk
Arguably one of the hardest to actually decide a class for?? I’m imagining her powers here as more akin to those she has in the MCU show; they’re something innate to her, passed down through her bloodline (and possibly unlocked by some event or heirloom as in the case of the TV show). I think the way she fights would be something closer to a monk, though? After awakening her powers, she journeys around helping people in the same way as she becomes Ms Marvel, both on her own and with the party. 
Kamala’s design is based pretty much entirely off the Mystic Marvel design (originally I believe from Champions, also in the Avengers game)! I saw this design and my brain instantly went brrrr because it basically combines my two fave marvel heroes (Dr Strange and Kamala)!! I changed a few parts of the design, and simplified the shirt a bit. I think it suits Kamala well for a fantasy AU - even in the main comics she wears an outfit that’s comfy and easy to move in!
NAKIA- Sorcerer/Cleric
Since Nakia is the only sensible one here, it made sense for her to be the (begrudging, probably) healer. I think it suits her personality well too though! I’m imagining here that her powers are innate (like a sorcerer), but she just uses healing magic the most (like a cleric). More similar perhaps to something like the cleric class in Fire Emblem Awakening, where clerics are often religious but their powers aren’t something directly conferred by the gods. 
Nakia’s design is based entirely off of her Storm Sage look in Ms Marvel (2015) #38 (aka the one where the gang gets isekai’d) Once again simplified it a little and softened some of the shapes (since it’s more of a villain look in the comic, but she’s obvs a good guy here) 
BRUNO - Wizard/Artificer
Bruno’s outfit is also partly inspired by #38 (esp for colour scheme), but I mainly just did my own thing for what I thought he should look like in a fantasy AU ahahah. Gave him a long coat because if there’s one thing I love more than wizards, it’s wizards with long coats lmao
To me the D&D wizard class is much more the ‘study and research’ side of magic so it think it works well for the scientifically inclined Bruno. The thirst for knowledge and hubris (all the benchmarks of a good wizard character, really) are also very fitting for him, I think..!!
He’s a natural prodigy of magic and manages to get accepted to a prestigious and exclusive magic school but is kicked out after The Accident. Leaves to find somewhere else that’s willing to teach him since he can’t accept the idea of not learning magic. Meets Kwezi and the rest plays out much as it does in the comics
His prosthetics are powered with some kind of Magical Rock (call it a magic substitute for vibranium), and made by Kwezi. I’m undecided whether they’re grafted onto his arm/leg or it’s a whole Full Metal Alchemist situation but maybe a bit of both? The arm also acts as a conduit of sorts for casting his own magic (hence where the artificer class comes in). As he makes all sorts of stuff for Kamala in the comics/show I think him having the ability to craft magical items also fits well. Probably learns that magic from Kwezi. Which brings us to...
KWEZI - Artificer
Another magical prodigy, but I see Kwezi as more of a support type to Bruno’s spellcaster. The embodiment of chaotic good. I think he’d be mainly a crafter of magical items (sort of like Olruggio in Witch Hat Atelier?) 
His background in this AU is the same as in the comics, and him and Bruno go adventuring a bit themselves before joining up with Kamala and co eventually. I think he’d be pretty sheltered when it comes to travelling outside fantasy-Wakanda, especially compared to Bruno, so hijinks ensue. (Side note, but I absolutely adore that contrast when it comes to Kwezi & Bruno’s dynamic, I’m so in love with them both)
The green cloak-wrap is inspired by his formal outfit in Ms Marvel (2015) #30, and the harem pants are from #29. I think comfy, practical clothes suit Kwezi, and I like that the colour scheme for him is a nice contrast with Bruno! 
KAREEM - Rogue
Probably the easiest class to decide on because really what else could it be?? I’m undecided on whether Kareem should have his origin from the MCU show or the comics for this AU - personally I prefer comics but I do think a secret society sort of thing would work well for a fantasy AU so I’m leaning a bit more towards that perhaps.
His design is a mix of MCU, comics and my own take on it to make it a little more fantasy/rogue-like.  
KAMRAN - Sorcerer
Probably the only one here (except maybe Kareem) who’s primarily based off his MCU appearance rather than the comics. I see him as being initially a bit more of a bad guy than in the show though, a sort of misguided villain who eventually ends up joining the party (see: Zuko in ATLA)
He’s grown up with the Clandestines (probably some kind of cult here) and he generally believes in their mission, so it takes a little more for him to turn on them. As a sorcerer his powers manifest suddenly and he doesn’t understand how to control them at first. The Clandestines probably want him to use his powers to their ends, and that, along with run-ins with Kamala gets him questioning whether he should continue to follow them or turn away from the only family he’s ever known...
Kamran’s design was probably the hardest to figure out, since he only really has appearances in regular clothes, and no canon alternate designs to work off of (like Nakia/Bruno/Zoe). In the end I was thinking of the Clandestines and what they might wear in such a setting? The blue colour scheme is based off the jacket he wears in ep 6 (probably his most iconic MCU look) and also his coat/scarf look in Ms Marvel (2014) #13. I don’t think I captured Kamran’s likeness very well here but his outfit actually turned out to be one of my faves, so swings and roundabouts hahah
ZOE - Fighter
I’m imagining Zoe in this AU is the daughter of some lowly noble family (a big shot in the town that her and the gang are from, not so much elsewhere). After a run in with some bandits where she’s saved by Kamala, she resolves that she needs to get stronger. Not the strongest nor the most skillful fighter, but she’s trying her best!!
Zoe’s design is inspired by her fantasy look in #38 (the pink tunic in particular), but I changed and added some details to it. Her cloak I swapped out for the pink scarf, as inspired by her stint as Ms Marvel!
BECKY - Paladin-->Warlock & JOSH - ???
The actual bad guys of this AU ahahah. I’m imagining here that the events of Civil War II play out pretty much the same in this AU as in the comics. Becky starts out as a paladin with generally good intentions, but when she crosses a line she gets disowned (is that the right word?? probably not) by her god. Unable to deal with it, she turns instead to darker powers, making a pact and becoming a warlock. 
I haven’t really thought about what class Josh would be... maybe a fighter as well (to match Zoe?), but I’m imagining him as a sort of mysterious Black Knight type figure, hence the you haven’t unlocked this character yet question marks lmao
Their designs are based entirely off their lockdown/discord appearances, just adapted into fantasy-armour style. I think the designs carried over really well, actually (definitely helped by the excellent colour schemes!)
And there you have it LOL I have no idea if I’m gonna do anything more with this AU but just wanted to share the brainrot, so if you got this far THANKS..... any thoughts/suggestions for other characters I should add are always welcome!!
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indigosabyss · 7 months ago
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so the MCU Red Daggers:
a) based all over the world, but seem to be centered in South Asia. b) trying to stop a dimension from pouring into their own through spacetime even tho c) they seem to have only normal weapons and tech, though some may be a little advanced and also d) despite their fight against the Noor dimension, they have no problem working with people who use Noor powers/tech or have Noor ancestry.
Also since the Red Daggers Kareem introduces her to (im assuming the teens at the bonfire were other Red Daggers tho that's conjecture) are p young, and also the way that they knew the Clandestine Ayesha had the bangle but weren't aware that it had since been handed to Sana - the one who actually was in Karachi - implies they had a pretty big base in India and might still have it.
Where am I going with all this?? So. You know who would be the perfect fit. For a young South Asian kid with spacetime powers that the Red Daggers would want on their side bc he basically let's them warp all over the world with less than a thought???
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QURESHI GUPTA.
The man. The myth. The legend. The twelve year old whose name I absolutely fucking hate bc it's a family name not a given name but it finally makes sense it's bc his parents weren't from EARTH-
Anyways skipping away to write fics where the Red Daggers are dealing with the ripple effects of all the jump points leaving the Noor unstable and giving a random kid powers and Kamran empathizing with him even as he uncovers a conspiracy about the Noor dimension and it's escapees-
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indigo-brainspark · 1 year ago
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it's no secret that I'm not the biggest fan of how Red Dagger was adapted into the MCU.(Don't get me wrong, in a vacuum, I would have been fine with it, but Kareem in the comics represented a lot to me as a Pakistani comics fan. I'll talk so much about this topic but that's not the point rn-)
But you know what would be really funny??? If Amulet, Fadi Fadlalah, was put in the MCU and then got the supernatural enemies he was fighting against be swapped out for fighting just regular guys. Also his magic practicing support structure should be taken out.
This will even the scales between Amulet and Red Dagger. Do it cowards.
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midnightlyquill · 2 years ago
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As she should.
Kamala Khan is out there having not one, not two, but three love interests. You go girl
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shokuto · 1 year ago
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Ayoooooo 😭
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kevinfeiges · 1 year ago
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Aramis Knight as Kareem
MS. MARVEL (2022), created by Bisha K. Ali
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sbd-laytall · 2 months ago
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Aww, he is so gone for her, and she doesn't even know it.
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Ms. Marvel (2016) #24
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themarysuep · 6 months ago
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No one in Marvel comics has game like Kamala loll.
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bookish-cravings · 7 months ago
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“Kamala should be with Bruno!!”
Kamala should be with literally anyone else 😘
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comicwaren · 6 months ago
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From Ms. Marvel: Mutant Menace #003, “Reunions”
Art by Scott Godlewski and Erick Arciniega
Written by Iman Vellani and Sabir Pirzada
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heckcareoxytwit · 6 months ago
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Kamala Khan and Red Dagger are on the rooftop when they are attacked by Zombie Cyclops. At first, Kamala was hesitant to fight Cyclops because he was her friend/teammate until she realizes that this "Cyclops" is a zombie. Kamala theorizes that the Orchis had stole the corpses of the mutants who died earlier and used the bodies as weapons against her. While fighting Zombie Cyclops, Red Dagger could not believe that Kamala came out of the "egg" during her resurrection. Red Dagger takes down Zombie Cyclops by smashing the body to the ground before coming back to the rooftop. Just as Kamala and Red Dagger kiss, they are attacked by more mutant zombies - Zombie Jubilee, Zombie Cannonball and Zombie Nightcrawler. Kamala Khan and Red Dagger work together in taking down the zombie mutants.
Ms. Marvel: Mutant Menace v1 #3
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indigosabyss · 7 months ago
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Btw have I told you guys about my "comics!Red Dagger enters the Marvel Universe" plot bunny??
Bc of all the characters, it is him specifically who is so different in both personality and background from the original guy that I think it would be fascinating to have him react to the differences.
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samasmith23 · 6 months ago
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So Kamala Khan has now had a total of 4 kisses in the comics! 2 with Red Dagger (aka, Kareem), 1 with Bruno Carrelli, and 1 with Spider-Man (aka, Miles Morales).
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Albeit the last one was apparently just an illusion that Miles experienced while trapped in Arcade’s Murderworld…
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burningfudge · 6 months ago
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LOL I love it when Urdu is used in Ms Marvel comics.
Ms Marvel: Mutant Menace (2024) #3
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xanthezhou · 2 years ago
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Sometimes, it rains. Floods, even, and it can feel like everything's washed away. But if you give it time... there's always a chance for something to grow in its place.
Ms Marvel & Red Dagger in Love Unlimited Infinity Comic #1-6
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velvet4510 · 4 months ago
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Not including Shuri and the man who murdered her mother because I have common sense.
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