#kamen rider thebee

[t-u-i-t-c]

"We've already started our next plan."

[mirai-e-jump]

[sailorgokaidecade]

Logos of all Tertiary Kamen Riders

Credits:

markolios (deviantart.com) - Valvarad Logo

driftingcar (deviantart.com) - Other Rider Logos

Download the original version here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gvJBbXY7aDCYgg_JKw4J8c7TD7S2EtQ9/view?usp=sharing

[crab-ran-goon]

this just started as the ouja drawing and then i added mini asakura. then i had a kageyama brain worm. then i decided the canvas was too empty. so i put that kageyama picture on it. then i remembered my asakura photocard. then i-

it’s maybe a bit too early for day 5 but i’ll forget to post it if i wait another day

bonus kageyama i drew on a shitty laptop under the cut

[couldtransitionsaveher]

KAGAMI ARATA / KAMEN RIDER THEBEE / KAMEN RIDER GATACK from KAMEN RIDER KABUTO

JUSTIFICATION:

"not very confident in her own body but mostly i think daisuke doing her makeup awakened some long repressed feelings in her." - @eijihino

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[derryonair]

[pokestine]

He doesn't use a belt, he doesn't do a kick, is TheBee even a real Kamen Rider?

[roundtable-knight-dyke]

What is it with kamen rider shows with a red main rider and a yellow secondary rider making the secondary very antagonistic towards the main rider.

I can name like 2 examples which isn't alot but I've only seen 3 kamen rider shows

[asanjou]

as follows: an excessive number of words on a topic i have frequently described as "pointless bullshit"

unfortunately i have the dialectics temperament and i ♥️ arbitrary categorisation so i have a lot of thoughts

i do like a pointless fandom argument it must be said. well argument is the wrong word for it i think because i think if you're getting genuinely heated about who kabutos tertiary is you gotta take a step back. but wrt secondaries/tertiaries it's interesting because what that is is a beloved fandom pastime of sorting things into boxes applied to a framework that doesn't really exist consistently throughout the franchise

cut because i rambled on this more than i thought i would

i like reading those threads because it's kind of fascinating to see how people interpret what "secondary" and "tertiary" mean & how they try to apply that when the setup isn't "two main guys, one marginally less relevant guy, and everyone else" because there's a lot of different approaches. i think on here most people will apply the logic secondary = second most plot relevant character with a rider form tertiary = third most plot relevant character with a rider form but there's also the logic secondary = guys who shows up second tertiary = guy who shows up third

which is where the kabuto argument arises because even though thebee is the third rider form to show up, like five different people use it and then it disappears. compared to sasword where he's like the fourth or fifth rider to debut but tsurugi is undoubtedly the third most plot relevant rider character (or gets the third most screentime at least)

continuing with kabuto this is where the second logic starts to wobble because you'll consistently see the argument that kagami isn't the secondary of kabuto because gattack doesn't debut until episode 20. that's where we get into the plot importance argument because no one is arguing he isn't the deuteragonist (well they are, they're arguing he's the protagonist but you understand this isn't relevant to what im talking about right now)

here's where blade and geats come in because these are the big two of slap fighting over the secondary title. in blade, garren appears before chalice and the plot heavily revolves around him for the first however many episodes before taking a backseat for mukki spiders for a while, with chalice's stuff is happening in the background consistently throughout.

geats has a kind of kabuto-like structure to start with where keiwa is our audience insert despite ace being the protagonist, so throughout the show even despite him spending big chunks off time offscreen you still kind of consider him the deuteragonist, even while michinaga has a lot more plot importance and there's more focus on his relationship with ace.

i think it's interesting to contrast how people talk about those two because the takes im seeing a lot will be "garren is secondary, chalice is tertiary" and "tycoon is secondary, buffa is an evil/rival rider" with naago as tertiary, but i don't ever really see "chalice is a rival rider" or "leangle is tertiary" despite chalice also existing as a third faction for chunks of the show.

(the reason for this is almost certainly that people were having these arguments while geats was airing and therefore opinions were formed before the plot shook out, in comparison to blade which is usually viewed as a complete work so people are aware of how the character focus changes after shou aikawa took over and wrote the greatest love story ever told)

these are the main two lines of thinking and they're probably the ones id also go by but the interesting part is seeing the ones that clearly come from people who get very different things out of the media than i do. a big one i see on reddit is that the secondary has the second most prominent final form after the primary. this gets applied to the garren/chalice argument too because while they both only have one upgraded form (until the story is continued in kamen rider outsiders) garren's jack form exists in the context of blade's jack form, which is then upgraded to king form, and wild chalice is framed as hajime's equivalent to king form within the narrative. the presentation is tha wild chalice is a final form whereas garren jack is a mid season upgrade. this isn't helped by the fact that chalice tends to eat shit less than the rest of the cast in general and that garren will still be tachibana sakuya no matter how many fancy capes you give him

most other lines of logic seem to be highly subjective. "i think this character is secondary because he has the coolest suit" "i think he's the tertiary because his fights were more fun to watch" "he has to be secondary because i, personally, believe he has the second largest penis in the cast" and so on and so forth.

ultimately though the final designations are up to toei because what these are are marketing terms applied to characters that take wildly different roles within the stories because the people writing the shows are more focused on nonsense like "dramatic tension" and "character arcs" than remaining beholden to rules decided by the council of r/kamenrider users that say secondary form must be second to debut. it's definitely a little frustrating in comparison to the 6th ranger categorisation which is fairly uniform with the exception of maybe five seasons tops. but then sentai is more formulaic to begin with

All this being said I will paypal five american dollars to anyone who can write me a convincing 500+ word argument on why leangle is the secondary rider of blade

[sunshinemoonrx]

Woke up this morning thinking about how most of the Riders in Kabuto are introduced as if they're Tendou's new rival but quickly fall into his narrative gravity and just sorta orbit around him sequestered in their own corners because they're competing for the same spot and the path of heaven is narrow

EXCEPT when the Hoppers becomes the Hoppers and they don't even care about him anymore because they're seeking the exact opposite (Hell) and they fully escape that tension and gravity. They're almost able to escape Kabuto itself, they've got it figured out

(Similarly, Kagami goes through the same cycle from trying to use Kabuto, then TheBee, which have established types, until getting his moment by continuing to try and be the very different kind of hero of his own story to the kind of hero this show actually has. The HBV of all things is entirely about this)

It's not that Tendou /is/ The Best Guy, he's just more himself than anyone else in the world has ever been themself, and you can't be the most you by trying to be someone else, you have to be you

In other words:

Kamen Rider Kabuto is the only show ever maybe

P.S. this bit in the final episode:

I used to think it was a sweet bookend but a bit out of nowhere...fool that I was. Fool that I was!

[skajador]

Watching Kabuto and meeting Kamen Rider TheBee got me thinking

What other rider would be the funniest to add "the" to?

I contend: Kamen Rider TheWizard

[dabbingonronpa]

Athena Cykes as Kamen Rider A-Bée!

(comes from abeille, French for bee)

Where Apollo's suit was based on Kamen Rider Zero-One, Athena's is inspired by Kamen Rider Zero-Two and Kamen Rider TheBee. I really like the idea of her using Widget as part of her Henshin, having to insert it into her Sunrise Driver.

Her suit was a lot easier to design than Trucy or Kristoph, I'll tell you that!

Below the cut is some development sketches

[sailorgokaidecade]

All Tertiary Kamen Riders:

Ryo Ashihara (Kamen Rider Gills)

Shuichi Kitaoka (Kamen Rider Zolda)

Shuji Mihara (Kamen Rider Delta)

Joker Undead/"Hajime Aikawa" (Kamen Rider Chalice)

Tomizo Todayama (Kamen Rider Todoroki)

Masato Mishima (Kamen Rider TheBee IV)

Kotaro Nogami (Kamen Rider New Den-O)

Taiga Nobori (Kamen Rider Saga/Dark Kiva III)

Yusuke Onodera (Kamen Rider Kuuga - Alternate Reality)

Sokichi Narumi (Kamen Rider Skull)

Michal Minato (Kamen Rider Aqua)

Seed of Life from the Universe/"Nadeshiko Misaki" (Kamen Rider Nadeshiko)

Mayu Inamori (Kamen Rider Mage)

Mitsuzane Kureshima (Kamen Rider Ryugen)

Roidmude 000/"Chase" (Kamen Rider Proto-Drive/Chaser)

Alain (Kamen Rider Necrom)

Taiga Hanaya (Kamen Rider Snipe)

Kazumi Sawatari (Kamen Rider Grease)

Woz (Kamen Rider Woz)

Yua Yaiba (Kamen Rider Valkyrie)

Kento Fukamiya (Kamen Rider Espada)

Sakura Igarashi (Kamen Rider Jeanne)

Neon Kurama (Kamen Rider Na-go)

Spanner Kurogane (Kamen Rider Valvarad)

[stickers-on-a-laptop]

looking at the chou taisen war teams for real is super funny what do you MEAN

ooo was in this thing 3 times (for a blue team, a flying team, and a high speed team)

bravo's on team women?? hello???????

knight's here, for a flying team, sure why not

drive's blue form is on team high speed, with go-ongreen

team detective doesn't have go-onblack, get fucking rekt

odin has a spot on team card

thebee gets to be here so we can have enough members on team insect, as kingoh was not yet a thing i guess

team dandy, which apparently means "over the age of 30 during their run", has hibiki and kyoryublue

team takaika has kamen riders that were 5'6, 5'9, and 6'0 respectively but all played by the same suit actor

yellow owl and ryugen are on the same team? what did raito do to deserve THAT??

lazer was on the same team as den-o gun form, zangetsu, and shinkenblue, and what in the fucking world

[withsideofwings]

"CAST OFF! CHANGE MANTIS" So Ive got into Kabuto and had burning need of making a Kabuto rider so here we are with cold and distanced Kama Nukegara aka Kamen Rider Makiri.

Main idea for her design was just me going after stealth theme and excuse to use one of my favourite bugs. Plus TheBee has wrist stinger so why not make wrist blade? Her civilian fit is loose reference to the first Mantis rider- Riderman.

[crab-ran-goon]

they pass around the thebee zecter like it’s a blunt. leave my wife (kamen rider thebee) alone !!!!