#jonbenet ramsey

[curiositysavesthecat]

Trigger warning: child death

* “It probably won’t be the real killer(s)” as in they just have to close the case, but they probably end up catching the wrong person(s)

❝ JonBenét Patricia Ramsey was an American child beauty queen who was killed at age six in her family's home on the night of December 25, 1996. Her body was found in the house's basement about seven hours after she had been reported missing. She had sustained a broken skull, and a garrote was tied around her neck. The autopsy report stated that JonBenét's official cause of death was "asphyxia by strangulation associated with craniocerebral trauma". Her death was ruled a homicide.

The Boulder police initially suspected that a long handwritten ransom note that was reportedly found in the home had been written by her mother, Patsy, and that the note and the appearance of JonBenét's body had been staged by Patsy and her husband, John, to cover up the killing.

In 1999, the police and district attorney (DA) both said that JonBenét's brother Burke, who was nine years old at the time of her death, was not a suspect.

In 2002, the DA's successor took over the investigation from the police and primarily pursued the theory that an intruder had committed the killing.

In 2003, trace DNA taken from JonBenét's clothes (her underwear) was found to belong to an unknown male; each family member's DNA had been excluded from this match.

The DA sent the Ramseys a letter of apology in 2008, declaring the family was "completely cleared" by the DNA results.

Others, including former Boulder police chief Mark Beckner, disagreed with exonerating the Ramseys, characterizing the DNA as a small piece of evidence that was not proven to have any connection to the crime.

In 2009, the Boulder police took the case back from the DA and reopened the investigation.

The crime is still considered a cold case and remains an open investigation with the Boulder Police Department. ❞ — via: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_JonBenét_Ramsey

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[midnightcowb0ys]

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[madlori]

There's a new JonBenet Ramsey documentary on Netflix. I was hesitant to watch it until I knew if it was another "the parents did it" docu - it's not.

I'm still agog that in the year of our lord 2024 people still assume the parents did it.

hmmm should I write an infodump post about this

answer unclear, ask again later.

[yrrtyrrtwhenihrrthrrt]

True Crime can be interesting sometimes but other times you have a whole swath of people who I can only assume have negative brain cells who think, because of 1 documentary and the flimsiest evidence imaginable, that a 9-year-old with no actual documented history of deviant behavior before nor since, fashioned a complex garrotte, sexually assaulted his sister, and then bashed her over the head killing her, all because she allegedly ate a bit of his snack.

Seriously if you think Burke killed Jonbenét Ramsey you're a fucking idiot and you need to learn like, 14-year-old levels of critical thinking. Even me at my little age of 16 when that documentary came out was like ".... This seems like an incredible stretch and like this documentary has a disingenuous agenda." If whole ass adults can't reckon that out, it's no mystery to me why our society is failing sideways.

"tHe PiNeApPlE" so these siblings shared a snack that the parents didn't mention or weren't aware of. What ground-breaking evidence. "BuT tHe GoLf ClUb" you mean the hearsay that one family friend said that Burke had thwacked his sister with a golf club at one point as young kids? That was never documented in any police or medical records? You're so right, what incontrovertible proof.

Yeah. That seems like sufficient evidence to try and destroy a family and a person's life over. It's not like the Ramseys were documented to have given out dozens of keys to their home at parties, or that putting a little girl in hypersexualized pageants would maybe attract stalkers and child abusers who would seek to harm her. It's not like the DNA didn't match Burke, or anyone in the household, for that matter. It's not like the father hasn't been consistently trying to get the DNA re-tested which, if he was protecting his son, would be extremely counter-intuitive.

Grow a fucking brain.

[beatlesgrl]

Watching the JonBenet Ramsey doc on Netflix, and no matter what theory you have, you have to admit that it’s just a textbook example of police misconduct

[theoriginalspike]

i’m gonna be SO honest right now. i think the rise of true crime has literally rotted some people’s brains out of their skulls. we’re never going to know who killed jonbenet ramsey mainly bc unless someone comes forward and flat out confesses with supportive evidence, it’s never going to be solved. there’s too much fuck up in the way the case was handled and how contaminated the crime scene became that there will never be a clear answer. and people salivating over theories instead of letting that baby rest in peace pisses me the fuck off

it’s one thing for documentaries like the one on the night stalker being honest and saying how much the police and government of california fucked it up repeatedly and just laying out facts. but the fact that i keep seeing videos esp on tiktok of people being like “omg the new jbr documentary on netflix who do YOU think did it??” like maybe shut the fuck up and go touch grass

[peppertaemint]

The JonBenét Ramsay documentary on Netflix tries its best to be balanced, but it still left out a lot of evidentiary details that support the theory of an intruder being the culprit.

The Ramsays did not have a secure home. It was known that 30 keys to their house had been given out to different parties, and on the night of the crime, there were multiple unsecured ways to enter the house. This plus the details of the mild sophistication of the knots of her restraints and the SA make it much more likely that a child predator, who has engaged in this behavior before, carried out the murder. And my understanding of the Ramsay indictment is that it pertained to their failure to provide JonBenét safety, which, well, seems fair.

If you're interested in the case I recommend the podcast The Consult, which is a round table of FBI criminal profilers who look at victimology and evidence to put a profile of the perpetrator together. These episodes are not for the faint of heart though so use your best judgment.

[drasticbookishsoda]

Absolutely left field take here but I've been watching the Netflix JonBenet Ramsey doc and it's insane how intrinsic that case was to my childhood but I just have one really specific thing to touch on as someone who grew up about 2 hours north of Boulder and was roughly 9 months older than JonBenet.

There's a clip in there from the news coverage at the time where they had people in Boulder reacting negatively and defensively to Patsy saying in an interview that people needed to keep their babies close because there was a killer out there. The gist was that people thought that was ridiculous and that no one was feeling afraid.

I'm gonna tell you right the fuck now that is a lie and a half. Maybe the people in Boulder itself were being blasé about it, but up in my town...my friends and I were actually very caught up in it and more than a little freaked out.

Most of our games consisted of practicing not getting kidnapped/what to do if we did for months after it happened. We were all constantly checking windows and doors. And we were SEVEN. That case seriously messed with our brain chemistry.

The whole doc is a pretty wild watch so far but that is the one piece that really stuck in my craw as a contemporary lol like, damn random 50 something lady on the street, maybe you're not worried, but us kids sure as fuck are.

[boricuacherry-blog]

That's crazy that Iowa has not released the full investigative file on Johnny Gosh. It's been how many years since he went missing?? Saying it's still an open case could be bec they don't want more info getting out [that's the only way the full file would be made public].

Everything should be made public atp IMO about a case like Johnny Gosch.

I think that's the same thing going on with JonBenet's dad. He keeps going on hobo tours and doing talks about JonBenet bec he wants the case to remain open ...bec then the full file won't be released.

All signs point to JonBenet Ramsey's father knowing how she died. And even if he didn't, at the very least, he heavily obstructed justice in finding out who did.

Let's be fr...no one broke in that house. And how did John automatically know his daughter's still warm body was laying in that room down in the basement? Why did he and Patsy move? Why did they keep stonewalling police? Also, Patsy wrote that ransom note. It's wild that he's out here smirking about how he can't find the killer, and ppl believe him. I believe there was a pattern of abuse taking place before JonBenet's death, based on her doctor visits. They can absolve him of all the wrongdoing they want, shit, they can absolve deez nuts..it doesn't change the facts of the case.

[felizzlemynizzl]

[curiositysavesthecat]

Trigger warning: mention of CSA

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[godlymiseryclub]

ethel should write a song about jbr

[gaykarstaagforever]

JonBenét Ramsey?

The dad and the brother did it. Or the brother did it and the dad tried to cover for him. Badly. Then, because of his rich white guy connections in Rich White Guy Boulder, Colorado, the DA and the local police covered for him.

...I mean the local police just totally botched the investigation. But that was mostly because "A rich white guy can't do crimes! That is only for the Blacks!"

The Lore Lodge is doing a whole series on this. But it's pretty cut and dry.

Everyone knows exactly what happened, but none of the relevant authorities care, because rich white men SAing their children to death is a fundamental American right, by gum!

...Trigger warning, if you're young and didn't know this is how things work here.

[therobishow]

I fucking hate true crime so fucking much

Scrolling reddit and this bullshit showed up in my feed.

If I had a penny for every time I saw a true crime fan act like these real events, real actual tragedies, are just some fun little story....I'd be one of the richest fuckers in the world.

I don't know if there's an actual term for this. An actual term for when people become incapable of processing reality as anything other than media to be consumed. The only thing I can think to call it is media poisoning.

JonBenet Ramsey isn't a real person anymore, her family aren't real people, the victims of Oakland County aren't real people and neither are their families. They're just characters. What happened to them isn't real, the tragedy, the pain, the death, the soul-shattering grief....it's not real, it's just a story.

If they were real, you couldn't make posts like that. You couldn't have a podcast called My Favorite Murder. You couldn't have people dressing themselves or their kids up as serial killers for Halloween. You couldn't have a wildly successful youtube series casually discussing murders while putting on makeup or doing mukbangs.

So they can't be real. They have to be media that you consume. And that's all they get to be. A product.

[katarinas-redemption]

"Burke Ramsey did not kill his sister" - Nancy Grace

[tonysopranosfeverdreams]

I think the blaming it on a “foreign faction” who hates America is what makes me so convinced it’s the parents. Bc it lines up with their ideology and they publicly attributed it to “an attack on the American family” when in fact. That is not a normal form of terrorism to target a random businessman and kidnap their child to make a statement about America lol