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Sception Reads Cass Cain #42

Batgirl (2000) #21 - December 2001 Writer: Kelley Puckett……….Pencils: Damion Scott Inks: Robert Campanella…..Colors: Gregory Wright

My short break turned into a 6 month hiatus, but the first issue of the new Cass Batgirl run releasing tomorrow (at time of writing this) has finally given me the push to start this project up again. While this isn't the most consequential issue to come back to, it is a good one, and it has Stephanie in it, and references og Cass's initial dynamic with Shiva, which is topical since the new book will at least start with a focus on modern Cass's relationship with her mother.

Most of the usual team here this time, only we have a different Wright on the colors than usual. Which did give me a brief moment of panic that I'd been attributing colors to the wrong person, but no, most of the previous issues specifically credit Jason Wright, but this one specifically credits Gregory.

The issue opens with Cass preparing for a training routine, and I have to point out that the evolution of Damion Scott's art style that I brought up in a reply to a post that was going around recently (link) regarding inconsistency in Cass's appearance was already well underway by issue 21 of her ongoing.

The training sequence itself is pretty extreme as Cassandra demolishes dozens of dummies and a few (potentially load bearing?) stone columns in her cave...

Before nearly taking Spoiler's head off and making herself sick with the effort of stopping her own punch and/or the realization of what almost just happened. It's a cool-then-funny sequence which also reinforces how Cassandra is capable of absolutely destroying people, but that she very much doesn't want to actually hurt anyone, traits that will of course be key to events later in the issue because Kelley Puckett is just good like that.

Anyway, Steph is here because Babs sent her to get Cass and bring her to the Clock Tower, since Cass wasn't responding to calls while engrossed in her hours-long training regimen.

*I wish I didn't have to, Mirthful Mike.

But yeah, this issue is a sort of tie in to Joker: Last Laugh, a miniseries / crossover event from 2001 that frankly I didn't much care for. Unfortunately we'll have to look at an issue from the main miniseries run next time, but for the moment Bab's summary is all that needs to be relevant for the current issue.

The more interesting thing going on in the same panel is the little exchange between Babs and Cass about whether Cass has been studying her super villain files. With Cass answering 'no' in a kind of embarrassed way, which Barbara reads as Cass being embarrassed about not doing her homework, something Babs obviously things Cass ~should~ be doing but that she's kind of given up on Cass ever caring enough ~to~ do, with Cass just not caring about the part of the job that she's not good at / the part of the job that Barbara does. It's a whole thing., and a point of tension that at this point in the comic is slowly building and then later will be forgotten about and unmentioned for a huge run of issues and then even later than that will explode out of nowhere. Again with my recurring comment about this book being fantastic on the build up of character arcs and not as great on the follow through.

BUT ANYWAY, Babs is completely misreading this situation, because Cass isn't embarrassed because she think she's been caught not doing something she should, she's visibly embarrassed (love the art from Scott here, again with managing a very expressive Cass despite being in the full face covering mask) because she thinks she's been caught doing something she shouldn't.

One of the first rules Bruce gave her was 'no costumed criminals'. She's not supposed to be fighting supervillains or metahumans or any other weirdos with special abilities or gimmicks that might invalidate her body-reading ability, which we've already established is her primary and near only defensive skill. At least, that's the in universe justification for why this book mostly avoids big scenery chewing bad guys who would otherwise distract from the intended tone and core themes.

Now, Bruce would have intended that as "don't fight them, but absolutely study them so you know what you're dealing with if you have do", but Cass is very much the sort of kid who would have heard that as 'supervillains are entirely off limits, I don't want you to fight them, or look at them, or even think about them', like the whole subject is a taboo - one she'll absolutely break, but that she'll feel guilty about breaking and try to hide from authority figures, because that's how she deals with guilt in general, lying (poorly) about it, trying to hide it. Because she doesn't think she deserves to be Batgirl, so she's completely insecure about it and sure she's going to be fired the moment anyone sees through her.

And that's especially the case given the reason she's been so carefully studying the particular supervillains she has - super powered martial artists. The same reason she's been training so hard that she's destroying her cave, missing calls from Barbara, and nearly killing unexpected guests who wander into her sessions, but that's a subject the comic comes back to later.

This habit / character flaw / broken coping mechanism of lying to hide guilt (misplaced or otherwise) is just so compelling to me. The way the lies taint every relationship, distancing the character from anyone they should be able to rely on, the way the they inevitably build up as the character feels guilty about the lies themselves and makes up more lies to hide that, like a matryoshka doll, or a tower of cards waiting to fall, the way that by the time other characters start pulling on the strings thinking they know what's going on there's a usually a cascade of revelations each more shocking than the last. Alphys in Undertale is a prime example of this.

The disaster when everything falls apart is usually the best part of this dynamic, and sadly Batgirl (2000) will choose to subvert that part (again, fantastic set up, but never quite following through), but we aren't there yet.

Anyway, it's just a couple short lines of dialog across as many panels sharing space with a blunt info-dump, but it's a really good character beat speaking to both Cass's flaws - the whole lying and hiding anything she feels guilty about - and Barbara's - assuming she already knows what's going on and not digging any further or following up (which only enables Cass's lying and hiding) because the reason she assumes makes her annoyed and angry (which Cass of course picks up on, reinforcing her feelings of guilt and insecurity).

It's a complicated and unhealthy dynamic between two people that otherwise genuinely love each other, and the tension and angst that comes from that is also fantastic.

The original Cass Cain Batgirl run was full of this drama that comes from making these variously maladjusted characters care about each other and exploring the fraught relationship dynamics that result. That more than anything else is what made Batgirl (2000) great and that post-flashpoint Cass has been lacking (the parts I've read anyway, still need to get around to that Outsiders run). Even my constant complaints about the flanderization of latter day David Cain basically boil down to this, because original Cass's relationship with Cain was overflowing with this sort of tension.

Anyway, that's a ton of talk about two panels, lets see if I can rush through the rest of the issue a bit more quickly...

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So Babs gives a reason why Cass and Steph aren't wanted in this otherwise all-hands-on-deck emergency situation, a reason that's a little bit dumb, but way less dumb than the reason we'll get next time, and Cass says she's fine with it, which takes Babs by surprise. You can see the fight she was ready to have about it, you can see how confused she is when Cass just says OK, because again Scott is just so good at these facial expressions. Babs, or at least this version of her, is susceptible to making inaccurate assumptions about people, about Cass in particular, but she's a smart enough cookie to notice when Cass acts outside of those assumptions and start questioning whether something else is going on.

So Cass goes to train in Bab's star trek holodeck (I admit that thing was a bit too sci fi for a gotham book for my tastes), and refuses to let Steph sit in, which calls back the scene earlier to reinforce it in the readers memory before what happens later.

The power goes out, and Cass comes out sheepishly, this miserable look on her face (again! So good!), because she thinks she broke the holo room, and there's no way to hide & lie her way around that, but the problem isn't Cass...

It's this guy, Shadow Thief (jokerized), a villain I know nothing about and have never seen or read outside of this comic. He's got some weird tech that, I think, drains electricity from nearby devices to make himself (but not his weapons) intangible?

Scott draws him in an extra exaggerated, cartoony, and rubbery style, which works here to emphasize his weird powers and/or jokerization, but does kind of foreshadow how all of his comic art starts to look more like that over time - which again isn't bad (as you can see in the panel here it actually looks pretty cool), but I still prefer the earlier style.

Anyway, Shadow Thief also a notable supervillain martial artist, so Cass actually has been studying his files, and knows exactly how to deal with him -

Catching the throwing stars he throws at them with her fingers (look at her smile! She's loving this!)

Throwing out some cocky banter to play on his ego

Grabbing his very tangible sword to draw him to the roof so Babs and Steph aren't caught in their fight.

All great stuff.

And yeah, Barbara has absolutely picked up that somethings going on with Cass. Eventually it will be revealed that she just already knows about the fight with Shiva, and I don't think we ever see how she found out, but this is pretty clearly where she started to suspect something and it's not too much of a stretch to jump from that initial suspicion to just knowing everything, at least not with this character.

Even without his sword, Shadow Thief has special martial arts techniques that somehow let him sort of hit things despite his Shadow Field making him intangible....

And now Cass does, too.

One of the usual principles of early Batgirl (2000) - no supervillains - serves to keep the focus tight on the more emotional themes of the book. Cass is so far out of the league of any of the typical criminals she runs up against that fights are always over in a flash, keeping action scenes short and punchy and leaving more space in the book for other things. But it is nice, every once in a while, to make an exception for a more drawn out and elaborate fight scene like this, where Cass can really show her skills.

But the real drama of this issue happens when Babs finds a way to remotely deactivate Shadow Thief's intangibility field mid battle. That 'oh, shit' face is so good.

All Cass's joy gone in an instant. She was having so much fun. She was so happy to have a real opponent she could cut loose on instead of inanimate dummies or holograms. Someone good enough to keep up with her, and with a defensive ability effective enough that she could put her full skills to use without having to worry about actually hurting them. Yeah, Shadow Thief's a villain, but they were playing with each other, trading banter. Having fun. Despite Shadow Thief's murderous intent, this was almost more of a friendly sparring match than a real fight.

But once again she gets a stark reminder of what her skills were originally meant for, what she was originally meant for. Earlier in the issue Cass was throwing up at the thought that she even could have hurt Stephanie, and now she probably killed this guy. And there won't be any hiding this - forget what might happen if Bruce finds out about the guy she murdered as a child, he 100% is going to find out about this man that she murdered, on the roof of Barbara's safe house, while wearing his symbol. Her entire life is falling apart, here.

But Stephanie is here. And helps Cass save him. Helps her save herself.

And of course Cass wants to hide what happened from Barbara. And of course Stephanie, being a good friend, keeps her secret, even if it probably would have been better to talk to Barbara about what happened and what Cass is feeling about it. Then again, if Babs knew it might have gotten back around to Bruce, and that ~wouldn't~ have been a healing conversation.

And the issue ends with a Flashback to Cass agreeing to fight Shiva, a real fight, to the death, using all of their killing skills. An bargain struck many issues back, so this is the reminder to readers that the fight is coming up soon, only a few issues away now. The final page is this panel of Cass back in her cave, with Shiva's file open, a video recording of her fighting on loop, as Cass sits with her face in shadow. She isn't going to fight to kill Shiva. She can't. So Shiva is absolutely going to kill her.

So yeah, a strong issue to come back to, catching us up on the overal serial plot of the book at the time, but also strongly grounded in original Cass's core emotional themes and the intricate dynamics of some of her core relationships, including now to Stephanie, with this being a huge early moment of vulnerability from Cass and support from Steph pushing them from like work friends who pal around some times to real friends who rely on each other.

And despite making exceptions to include a super villain and extended fight scene and callback to an ongoing serial narrative arc, this issue still mostly adheres to the core early Batgirl (2000) playbook.

It tells a complete story in a single issue; tightly focused on Cass's core character themes, motivations, and frought, layered relationships; expressed mostly through the artwork with relatively minimal reliance on dialog and even less on narration, with an overall sombre or even tragic tone punctuated with moments of levity or heartfelt human connection.

I'm writing this before having a chance to read the first issue of Cass's new ongoing, but more than anything else, more than reverting her canon to the pre-flashpoint history (which I don't even want, post-flashpoint Cass is a new character and I'm sure she has fans who care about her as much as I cared about original Cass), even more than restoring the original version of David Cain, what I hope for most from the new book is a return to this kind of storytelling.

#batgirl #cassandra cain #sception reads cassandra cain #stephanie brown #barbara gordon #shadow thief

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mydarlingbat · 10 months ago

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BATMAN #1 1940 REVIEW.

Alright i want to elaborate on Batman #1 1940. This issue is great. I enjoy the first part of the comic. It was really, really good. Batman heard the Joker was murdering people and the Joker even announces he's going to murder certain people, but Batman informs to Dick Grayson that the time isn't ripe? Like what are you even talking about? And then he waits even longer, however he decides to show up when brute Nelson decides to set the Joker up and kill him, and then all of a sudden Batman's ready to come into action. He saves the Joker from getting shot, and then the Joker knocks him off the bridge into the water. He makes it out alive, and proceeds to say 'I finally found a foe who gives a good fight' in so many words. Are you kidding me??? I mean Batman was obsessed with the Joker from the beginning, and the Joker kidnaps robin. He ties him to a chair, in addition to that Batman shows up to knock the Joker out, and then he fights with him some more. The Joker keep shouting for Batman to die, and then the Joker slips off the building not too long after. guess what? Batman saves him again. Let's not forget he says 'you're to valuable to lose 'I mean what? You just met him Bruce. The rating is 7 out of 10

Now the other short story in Batman #1 is about professor strange. The beginning is pretty funny. The part when Hugo strange says to get the warden body so he can use it as a shield. I was laughing so hard, but I'm not going to go into too much detail about this part, but Hugo strange create monsters to terrorize the city obviously. The monsters throws cars around the city. They tried to harm innocent civilians. Batman then decides it's time to stop Hugo strange, although he doesn't see the two giant hands ready to catch him. Lmao. I still don't understand how he couldn't see them, so now he's trapped. Hugo strange explains how he created the serum, and how human glands growth or something help with that. He then injects it in Batman's arm. Batman throws Hugo strange off a building. Batman causes the Giants to kill each other, and then he makes a cure in one minute. Like really though??? Then Batman kill the last two Giants. Yep! you heard that right. He hung one, and knock the other off the building. Lol The rating is a 5 out of 10

The other short story of this issue Is about Robin handling a case alone without Batman. lemme tell you it's pretty boring. Catwoman is thief who stole the necklace and other shiny things she adores.. She eventually flirts with Batman. Then she asks him to be her partner. Look it's soooooooo boring. I actually think Catwoman being reveal actually makes it interesting. This rating is a 3 out of 10

The other short story of Batman #1 is about the Joker again. The Joker escapes prison with the two hidden fake teeth in his mouth. He unscrews them from out of his mouth. I'm as confused as you are about this... Plus it has a chemical in them too, which can cause an explosion. Oh my god that's so stupid though, but anyways the Joker escapes prison by blowing it up, and he start murdering people once again. Now theses cops in this issue are so dumb. I mean the Joker get through everytime, and they convince the people who the Joker threatens to murder, that they'll be okay. No one's getting through here. Like why are you lying? Batman arrives to stop the Joker, but the Joker wounds up dying at the end. I do love how Batman said he'd love to stick his hands around the Joker's lily neck. The rating of this short story is 6 out of 10

#batjokes #batman #batman and joker #comics #batman x joker #comic books #dc comics #the joker #batmm #dcedit #Hugo strange #Catwoman #Robin

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celaenaeiln · 1 year ago

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Hi Hi

I've more recently gotten into DC and I love your explanations of everything so I was wondering if you could explain what drove Dicks anger to the point of killing Joker

yes!

So for a little background on what's going on, the Joker is told by a quack that he has terminal brain cancer so decides to go on one last "Screw you!" mission to the world by jokerizing all the inmates in prison. Dick, Bruce, Dinah and couple other heroes put an end to this but Joker convinces another villain to turn the place into a massive blackhole and some of the jokerized villains escape and start wrecking havoc everywhere. Round two begins with everyone fighting and this time, Barbara sends Tim to Arkham alone where the joker is but also filled with jokerized minions. Tim gets captured and Dinah can't get him out, Dick comes back from his fight only to find all this out.

So now, he's freaking out because his baby brother got kidnapped by the Joker and no one's there to save him.

Joker: Last Laugh Issue #6

But at the same time, he's pissed.

Joker: Last Laugh Issue #6

Now he goes into Arkham because no way in hell is he going to let his baby brother die.

Joker: Last Laugh Issue #6

Now Bruce goes after Dick and bring along Stephanie and Helena with him.

But while this is happening, the heroes don't know that a little while earlier Killer Croc grabbed Tim out of a crowd of jokerized villains that were going to kill him. Only the Joker knows that but he also thinks that Killer Croc ate him up so Tim's dead because that's what his minion said. So essentially all the heroes think Tim is captured and Joker thinks he's dead.

Now Dick during his fight finds out that Tim's dead and he's really upset and the Joker continues riling him up because originally he wanted Bruce to kill him but he figured that if one of his sons killed him instead, that would hurt the Big Bad Bat even more.

Joker: Last Laugh Issue #6

But Dick was raised on the no kill rule and no killing means no killing. Period.

But Joker just. Won't. Stop. And at one point he goes too far in what he says

Joker: Last Laugh Issue #6

It's the combination of Tim's death and the utter callousness that the Joker doesn't even care about the pain he's caused to Dick's other baby brother that pushes Dick over the edge. He just keeps beating the Joker over and over brutally until the Joker is literally beaten to death.

The only thing that gets Dick to stop is the appearance of Tim and the knowledge that he's still alive.

Joker: Last Laugh Issue #6

So in summary, what really drove Dick to kill the Joker were two things combined: the deaths of baby brothers and the Joker's indifference, killing Tim was the start and mocking Jason was the final blow. He couldn't let the Joker go after the pain and suffering he caused.

#dick grayson #nightwing #tim drake #robin tim drake #the joker #barbara gordon #oracle #dinah lance #black canary #bruce wayne #batman #jason todd #cl cherriesfallbeneaththerain asks #cl asks #thanks for the ask!

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thenixkat · 7 months ago

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For my research on Ted Kord/Blue Beetle 2 alone, I've read thus far:

His pre-DC comics (13 issues)

Crisis on Infinite Earths (9 issues)

Secret Origins (1 issue)

Blue Beetle 1986 (24 issues)

Legends (6 issues)

Captain Atom 1987 (9 issues)

Justice League International/America/Quarterly/America Annual 1987 (115 issues)

Justice League Europe 1989 (6 issues)

Millennium 1988 (8 issues)

The Weird 1988 (4 issues)

Kingdom Come 1996 (4 long issues)

Invasion! 1988 (3 long issues)

Firestorm, The Nuclear Man (3 issues)

DC Showcase '93 (1 issue)

DC Showcase '94 (3 issues)

Birds of Prey 1999 (21 issues)

L.A.W.: Living Assult Weapons 1999 (6 issues)

Martian Manhunter 2000 (1 issue)

Robin 1993 (2 issues)

Joker: Last Laugh (6 issues)

Nightwing 1996 (1 issue)

Justice League Unlimited (3 issues)

Countdown to Infinite Crisis (1 long issue)

Dark Multiverse: Countdown to Infinite Crisis (1 long issue)

The OMAC Project (6 issues)

Infinite Crisis 2005 (5 issues)

All-New Atom (1 issue)

DC Universe: Legacies (1 issue)

Convergence: Blue Beetle (2 issues)

Convergence: Justice League International (2 issues)

DC Universe Rebirth (1 issue)

Blue Beetle: Rebirth (1 issue)

Blue Beetle 2016 (18 issues)

Blue Beetle: Graduation Day (6 issues)

Blue Beetle 2023-Current (11 issues)

DCeased: A Good Day To Die (1 issue)

So like, I've read 306 comics just for Ted Kord/Blue Beetle 2. Thus far.

#nix meows #nix reads comics #ted kord #blue beetle

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zahri-melitor · 1 year ago

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Dick's memories:

I've been working on this part for 6 months. I wrote a lot of it from memory and then went to find the panels and check I was characterising them correctly (and add the attribution).

There are some big moments in Dick and Tim's relationship referenced here, of course. But wherever possible, I tried to choose slightly less well known moments, or an alternate panel from the main one pointed to in that issue.

Some fun facts:

38 footnotes, referencing 34 separate comics (I use two scenes from the same issue for 4 comics: Batman, Nightwing, Robin, and Gotham Knights)

15 different comic runs are referenced (Batman, Detective Comics, Azrael, Birds of Prey, Nightwing, Robin, Red Robin, Batman: Shadow of the Bat, Gotham Knights, New Titans, Showcase '93, Joker: Last Laugh, Identity Crisis, Infinite Crisis, and Blackest Night: Batman)

The years covered by the comics are the following: 1990, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011.

The years missed are the following: 1989 and 1991.

1989: I skipped because I really, really wanted to open with Tim's first actual team up with Dick after A Lonely Place of Dying. Plus, Dick didn't really look and see Tim until after ALPoD. That's why no circus, no baby Tim, no origin story.

1991: Dick and Tim do not interact in any comic labelled 1991. They do appear in a single splash panel together.

I struggled with myself over whether to include 2009 or not, because I wanted moments of brotherhood between Tim and Dick, where they clearly cared for each other, and I didn't want to include any of Battle for the Cowl or the Red Robin fight. There were in the end only three stories that really qualified: The end of Heart of Hush; the 2008 Holiday Special (which has a Feb 2009 cover date); and Blackest Night: Batman. The only issue of Heart of Hush with a 2009 coverdate simply doesn't have any conversation BETWEEN Dick and Tim to use (they're too busy explaining to Tommy how much he screwed up); while I do like the Wonderful Life story, the costume handover was a bit too twee to fit anywhere into the flow of memories plus Owen Mercer's there; and in the end, I used the panel AFTER the panel of Blackest Night. This was a slight cop out in terms of the whole 'avoid the Red Robin fight' aim, but it's the one big moment that shows Dick and Tim were still in sync during that time, and in terms of the scene build it slotted quite nicely into the explosions-building-to-dead-Tim run of memories.

14 different writers created the comics (Marv Wolfman, Alan Grant, Doug Moench, Chuck Dixon, Dennis O'Neil, Devin Grayson, Scott Beatty, Brad Meltzer, Geoff Johns, Adam Beechen, Fabian Nicieza, Peter Tomasi, Christopher Yost, and Scott Snyder)

The most common writer was of course Chuck Dixon, who wrote 10 of the issues; Devin Grayson was in second with 6 issues.

The comic that appears the most often is Nightwing, with 6 issues; Gotham Knights has 5 issues appear.

I had great fun constructing this; I hope while you were reading it many of the scenes also played in your head.

#morrison disease #my fic

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cuephrase · 4 months ago

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💫 comics masterpost 💫

(last updated jan. 1, 2025)

current comics pull list (in release order)

batman

batgirl

batman and robin

batman/superman: world’s finest

batman and robin: year one

nightwing

titans

batman: the long halloween - the last halloween

justice league unlimited

saga

comics tbr

this is not an exhaustive list, and it’s not in any priority order. i may organize this better in the future, but as of rn it’s copy/pasted straight from my notes app lol. some of it is more specific, some of it is more general, just acknowledging to myself that i want to check X out! feel free to rec a run/arc if you don’t see it here or under my read list 💗

titans (1999)

outsiders (2003)

jla/titans

shadow of the bat

legend of the dark knight

batman- one bad day (all)

batman: streets of gotham

batman (from jason’s arrival onward)

superboy

impulse

batgirl (2009)

batman: white knight

batman: the knight (zdarsky)

detective comics (from jason’s arrival onward)

robin miniseries

batman and the signal

titans 2008

batman: gotham county line

green arrow

batman/superman

kyle rayner green lantern

birds of prey

catwoman

comics read

titles i’ve read start to finish first, then events. not *everything* i’ve read bc i’ve only tracked the bigger chunks (not every single issue), but most of it! also not in release order within era, whoops. (no pre-crisis listed bc i’ve only read some batman/tec here and there)

post-crisis (1985-2011)

nightwing 1996

nightwing 1998

wf3: world’s finest three (superboy/robin)

nightwing and huntress

batman and robin 2009

the new teen titans/the new titans

robin 1993

young justice 1998

red robin

teen titans 2003

batgirl 2000

batman: gotham knights

all jason og robin, post-crisis

a death in the family

a lonely place of dying

batman: cataclysm

batman: no man’s land

joker’s last laugh

bruce wayne: murderer?

bruce wayne: fugitive

infinite crisis

batman: under the hood

batman: hush

jla: tower of babel

n52 (2011-2016, start of post-flashpoint)

nightwing 2011

grayson

red hood and the outlaws 2011

batman and robin 2011

robin: son of batman

batman eternal

batman and robin: eternal

robin war

death of the family

rebirth to present (2016-Now)

nightwing 2016

red hood and the outlaws 2016

task force z

joker: the man who stopped laughing

tim drake: robin

batman and robin 2023

batman/superman: world’s finest 2022

world’s finest: teen titans

red hood: the hill

robins: being robin 2022

young justice 2019

batgirl 2024

batman: the three jokers

batman 2016 (from #125)

from the dc vault: robin lives!

the boy wonder

justice league unlimited

batman and robin: year one

batman: the last halloween

titans 2023

batman: gotham war

titans: beast world

knight terrors (+ titans, nightwing, and robin tie-ins)

joker war

batman: urban legends 1-6, 10

batman: city of bane

#about

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beeceit · 8 months ago

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alrighty, I went through my dc universe infinite history (keeping in mind, this does NOT include stuff I read on other sites or stuff I own physically. For example, somewhere I have a nearly complete collection including all of the new 52 Birds of Prey run)

The Boy Wonder #1-4 The Long Halloween #1-13 Robin Lives #428, #1 #2 The New Titans #1, #43-45, Annual #3, #60-65 Batman (1940) #402, #426-429, #440-443, #448-449, #652-#660, #663-666 Batman Urban Legends #6 #10 #4 #5 DC vs Vampires #1-12 Batman/Superman World’s Finest #1-6 The Titans #17-#18 Detective Comics (2016) #940-971, #1000 Blackest Night Batman #1-3 Red Robin #1-26 Teen Titans (2003) #1-55 Nightwing (2016) #1, Fear State Impulse #1 Young Justice #1-12, 80 page giant, #40 Batman Gotham Adventures #1 Batman (2016) #130-150 Batman and The Signal #1-3 Nightwing (1996) #100-103, #106 Adventure Comics (2009) #3 Batman and Robin (2011) #31 Red Hood and the Outlaws (2016) #1-9 Joker: Last Laugh #6 Batman: Battle For the Cowl #1-3 Azrael: Death’s Dark Knight #1 Gotham Gazette: Batman Dead? #1 Convergence: Batgirl #1-2 Batgirl: Secret Files and Origins #1 Detective Comics (1937) #734, #819-827 Blackest Night #0-1 Green Lantern (2005) #43 Superman (1987) #70 Red Hood: The Hill #1-2 Robin (1993) #175-182 Tim Drake: Robin #1-6 Knight Terrors: Robin #1-2 Robin (1991) #1-4 Teen Titans (2011) #1 Robins: Robins Being Robin We Are Robin #7-8 The Batman Who Laughs #1-7

growing up, new52 birds of prey was my first and only subscription to a comic, but we'd go through the $1 back issues bins all the time and just pick up whatever had a cool cover and that behavior definitely stayed with me lol

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fancyfade · 2 years ago

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Are there any canon Damian and Babs interactions? I couldn’t find any. What‘s their dynamic like? Same goes for Babs and Tim

Babs and Tim is easier so I will start with them :P

I think this panel + commentary (link) in Showcase 94 showcases their dynamics well. Tim is an easy kid for babs to get along with. He appreciates her help and gets along with people she gets along with. He sometimes gets a little smug about her not knowing his identity at first, but that seems to be just a joking thing between them. They have a pretty good rapport and I can look up specific issues for them if u wish.

Babs is very protective of Tim, and she authorizes Huntress to use lethal force to rescue Tim in Joker's Last Laugh.

Damian is harder. Heads up: I will not be counting anything past 2011 because that is just no. I don't like how they handle her post new 52. So we've only got a few interactions to use.

In Batman: Streets of Gotham #6, Damian questions Babs' usage of resources (sending Huntress instead of him after Man-Bat) and Dick complains "This is what I have to put up with" and Babs generally agrees with him (He's a charmer all right).

In Batman and Robin 2009, Babs tries to prevent Steph from interacting with Dick and Damian in the field (and is justified in this as Steph accidentally freezes Damian immediately afterwards XD). In her internal monologue Babs is annoyed at Steph, but when she speaks out loud she seems to be defending steph and again is sarcastic w/ Dick about Damian ("Tell me you didn't enjoy the quiet ride home") and dick agrees with her ("I did"). dick refers to steph as reckless and babs refers to damian as murderous. but they do not interact directly much in this plotline, its more dick and babs talking ABOUT steph and damian.

in general babs seems like another adult who does not have a lot of patience for Damian in the 2009 era batfam, which is almost everyone in the batfam at that time. they do work together when they need to, damian will follow her orders (just while complaining about it) and get stuff done. And i don't think this is really unrealistic or OOC for babs.

First, as we've mentioned, nearly NO ONE in the batfam has much patience for Damian verbally at this time (including dick, as we've seen in all of these interactions Dick has either been instigating the "haha damian's insufferable" stuff or agreeing with it).

Secondly Babs is just not a person who has a lot of interpersonal patience or tact to begin with. She cares about people. A LOT. but she still messes up a lot, and she can get pretty brusque when she's stressed. I think that if she was put in a position where she HAD to interact with Damian more, she would be a little bit more understanding (b/c second chances are a big theme for her (trying to reform savant, link1, link2). But she doesn't have to be patient with Damian, because he's not her responsibility, and he's hard to get along with, so she doesn't.

I think they could have a lot of potentially interesting interactions, but most of them would be skill based (babs helping Damian with hacking, for example) and not very touchy feely. Neither of them are very touchy feely characters.

#anon #ask #damian wayne #dick grayson #barbara gordon #batman: streets of gotham #batgirl 2009 #robin #oracle #batfam

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havendance · 1 month ago

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Went to a new comic shop in my quest to visit every store in my area this year and found some great finds:

Highlights include:

The last issue of The Huntress (1989) I was missing!!

Joker: Last Laugh #2, 3, 5, and 6

The killer Circe story Priest wrote in Wonder Woman #137 & 138 and an old Wonder Woman: The Contest trade (Artemis my beloved <3)

I also picked up Titans/Young Justice Graduation day trade from 2003 because it was like 3 bucks and why not?

#dc #gotta catch em all (comics collection)#carthago delenda est

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ao3feed-jaydick · 1 year ago

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We Should Try

read it on the AO3 at https://archiveofourown.org/works/54196516 by FaithSeeker This Work is a continuation to Sweet Mistakes (First part of this Series). Events that happen after Jason finds out Dick killed Joker (Joker Last Laugh: issue 6) and passed the night together, feeling guilt afterwards. Now they have to live with it and the pain it causes them to have messed their relationship through a heated night. Words: 13018, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English Series: Part 2 of When Failure and Success fall in love Fandoms: Batman - All Media Types Rating: Mature Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Categories: M/M Characters: Dick Grayson, Jason Todd, Bruce Wayne, Alfred Pennyworth, Damian Wayne Relationships: Dick Grayson/Jason Todd Additional Tags: Mentioned Duke Thomas, Mentioned Cassandra Cain, Mentioned Tim Drake, Mentioned Stephanie Brown, They don't know they're in love, Angst and Fluff and Smut, Past Relationship(s), But like it was sex so idk, Good Sibling Damian Wayne, Protective Damian Wayne, Guilt, Protective Dick Grayson, Protective Jason Todd, Dick Grayson is Bad at Feelings, Jason Todd is Bad at Feelings, they're batboys so it's no surprise at this point, Bruce Wayne Tries to Be a Good Parent, but fails on the attempt, Bad Jokes, Dick Grayson Needs a Hug, Jason Todd Needs A Hug, rooftop talks, trapped together, Idiots in Love, Not Actually Unrequited Love, First Love, Boys In Love, Teasing, Seduction, Kissing, Rough Kissing, Neck Kissing, Frottage, Begging, Name-Calling, Comic: The Joker: Last Laugh (2001) #6, Jason Todd is the only kid who has a favorite gargoyle, Sexual Tension read it on the AO3 at https://archiveofourown.org/works/54196516

#IFTTT #AO3feed #Jaydick #DC

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androxys · 1 year ago

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Androxys' 2023 Comics Wrapped

Happy end of 2023! To celebrate the turning of the year, I wanted to take a quick view back through the comics I read over the last twelve months. Turns out there's... a lot of them.

This isn't 100% perfect, mainly because I'm basing this off the metadata of when comics were added to my computer... I do think there are some comics I added at the end of 2022 but ended up reading in 2023. However, in the interest of being fair, this list won't count those, and is instead only the comics I can confirm I read in 2023.

By my tally, I read 977 comics in 2023 across 78 unique titles. If we assume each comic is 22 pages long, that's 21,494 pages of comics! Of course, some stories are shorter than 22 pages (as if they're splitting with a backup) and some are longer (prestige formats or one-shots). Based on some quick (and quite unscientific) math, I estimate that I spent around four days of my 2023 in the world of DC Comics. And you know what, I'll do it again.

Breaking down my Top 10 single titles, this year I read...

169 Superman/Adventures of Superman/Action Comics issues

128 Batman/Detective Comics issues

104 JSA issues

56 Suicide Squad issues

52 Birds of Prey issues

51 Manhunter issues

38 Harley Quinn issues

33 Aquaman issues

31 Azrael issues

27 Martian Manhunter issues

Here's the full breakdown of my reading, for those interested:

Arsenal (1998) #1-4 [4]

JLA/Titans (1998) #1-3 [3]

Knight and Squire (2010) #1-6 [6]

Monkey Prince (2021) #1-12 [12]

Poison Ivy (2022) #1-6 [6]

Shadowpact (2006) #1-25 [25]

The Question: Pipeline in Detective Comics (1937) #854-864 [11]

Trinity (2003) #1-3 [3]

Tempest (1996) #1-4 [4]

The Atlantis Chronicles (1990) #1-7 [7]

Aquaman (1994) #1-20 [20]

Aquaman: The Becoming (2021) #1-6 [6]

Azrael (1995) #23-46 [24]

Sword of Azrael (2022) #1-7 [7]

Batgirls (2022) #14-19 [6]

Batman (1940) #401-401 [7]

Batman: Cacophony (2009) #1-3 [3]

Batman: Death and the Maidens (2003) #1-9 [9]

Batman Chronicles (1995) #1-23 [23]

Batman: Gotham Knights (2000) #33-74 [42]

Batman: Turning Points (2000) #1-5 [5]

Batman: Killing Time (2022) #1-6 [6]

Batman: Urban Legends (2021) #23 [1]

Batman Beyond: Neo Year (2022) #1-6 [6]

Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (1994) [1]

Batman Incorporated (2011) #1-8 [8]

Detective Comics (1937) #469-479 [11]

Birds of Prey (1999) #22-55, #113-127 [49]

Birds of Prey (2023) #1-3 [3]

Infinite Crisis Aftermath: The Spectre #1-3 [3]

DC Festival of Heroes (2021) [1]

DC Power (2023) [1]

G'nort's Illustrated (2023) [1]

DCeased (2019) #1-6 [6]

Green Arrow (2001) #69-72 [4]

Green Lantern (1990) #76-77, #92 [3]

Green Arrow (1988) #104, #110-111, #125-126 [5]

Harley Quinn (2000) #1-38 [38]

JSA (1999) #1-87 [87]

Manhunter (2004) #1-38 [38]

Manhunter in Batman: Streets of Gotham (2009) #1-13 [13]

Martian Manhunter (1998) #0-17, #1000000 [19]

Martian Manhunter (2019) #1-12 [12]

Nightwing (1996) #107-124 [15]

Nightwing (2016) #100-107 [8]

Tim Drake: Robin (2022) #5-10 [6]

The New Champion of Shazam (2022) #1-4 [4]

Suicide Squad (1987) #31-66 [36]

Suicide Squad (2007) #1-8 [8]

Superboy (2011) #1-11 [11]

Superman: The Man of Steel (1986) #1-6 [6]

Superman (1987) #1-44 [44]

Adventures of Superman (1987) #424-467 [44]

Action Comics (1938) #584-658 [75]

Superman: Son of Kal-El (2021) #7-18 [12]

Superboy: The Man of Tomorrow(2023) #1-6 [6]

World of Krypton (1979) #1-3 [3]

The World of Krypton (1987) #1-4 [4]

Batman/Superman: World's Finest (2022) #1-11 [11]

World's Finest: Teen Titans (2023) #1-4 [4]

World's Finest (1990) #1-3 [3]

Swamp Thing Giant (2019) #1-7 [7]

Swamp Thing (2016) #1-6 [6]

Punchline: The Gotham Game (2022) #1-6 [6]

Joker: The Man Who Stopped Laughing (2023) #1-6 [6]

Wonder Girl (2021) #1-7 [7]

Nubia: Queen of the Amazons (2022) #1-4 [4]

Galaxy: The Prettiest Star (2022) [1]

Spirit World (2023) #1-6 [6]

Salvation Run (2008) #1-7 [7]

JSA All Stars (2003) #1-8 [8]

Dr. Mid-Nite (1999) #1-3 [3]

Animal Man (1988) #1-26 [26]

Solo (2004) #1-5 [5]

The Legend of Wonder Woman (2016) #1-9 [9]

JSA Returns (1999) #1-9 [9]

Teen Titans: Year One (2008) #1-6 [6]

Suicide Squad (2001) #1-12 [12]

#chit chat #androxys reads comics #androxys comics wrapped #dc comics

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