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Епізод #9: “Хто боїться великого чорного кажана?!?” (05.06.2019)
Джон “Хембоун” МакҐуайр (ДМ), Френк Аїро (ФА), Шон Саймон (ШС)
Продовжують відповідати на запитання фанів… по-американськи жартують про канадців…
Запитання про надприродні явища й те, чи доводилося їм спостерігати щось на кшталт цього! Френк розповідає ту саму історію, яку розповідав отут (укр. суб.): https://youtu.be/XFQ43aAlpwI. Шон і Хембоун діляться своїми…
ШС: "Є одна історія. Бабуся моєї дружини… Хтось тоді помер, і вона спала на дивані. Й потім вона почала чути, ніби ця людина розмовляла з нею… ніби кликала її, кликала її ім'я й усіляке таке, може, запитувала, чи була вона тут. І це повторювалося кілька днів поспіль. Вона вже була до біса налякана. В результаті виявилося *сміється, а далі швидко*, що це був клятий кіт, який постійно натискав на кнопку автовідповідача, і це було повідомлення від тієї людини, яке постійно включалося!" *регочуть*
ФА: "Де в біса!"
Усі *повільно*: "Дідько!"
ФА: "Але почекайте! А якщо у кота вселився дух тієї людини і саме тому він постійно натискав на кнопку?"
ШС: "Оу!"
ФА: "Ось про що ти не подумав."
ДМ: "Це дуже мстивий дух, чуваче."
ФА: "В тому-то й справа, ага."
ШС: "Ну, та ймовірніше, це все не так, але…"
*сміються*
ФА *сміється*: "Мені подобається те, що вона все одно ніяк не слухала те повідомлення. *регочуть* "Ні, серйозно, повідомлення дуже важливе."
ДМ: "Моя бабуся казала мені, що наша сім'я "психічно налаштована на всяке".
ФА: "О. На що саме?"
ДМ: "Ну типу на все."
ФА *сміється*: "ОК."
ДМ: "На багато всякого. Багато років тому моя мати дала мені цю фігурку Будди з таким собі червоним брелком, що з нього звисав. Тепер він висить над моїми вхідними дверима, до речі. Вона сказала: "Це оберігатиме твій дім." Тож це ніби оберіг. Розказую: параноя і тривожність моєї матері передалися мені, а додати до цього ще й мій ОКР (обсесивно-компульсивний розлад)… Кожного вечора, перед тим, як лягати спати, я перевіряю, чи виключена плита на кухні, я тру живіт цієї фігурки Будди, три рази перевіряю, чи зачинені двері, а потім я лягаю. Коли я прокидаюся посеред ночі, аби сходити в туалет, то повертаючись у спальню я такий *пошепки*: "Ох, дідько. Зачекайте-но." Тож я включаю ліхтар на своєму телефоні та перевіряю, чи не лежить ніхто під ліжком, чекаючи там, аби вбити мене *ШС починає сміятися*. Тож ось як виглядає моє життя зараз."
ШС і ФА: "Вау."
ФА: "Але все-таки… Почекай! Що ти такого зробив *ШС сміється* у своєму житті, що є хтось, хто хоче вбити тебе?"
ДМ: "Не знаю!"
ФА: "До того ж настільки таємно!"
[..]
ФА: "Але штука в тому, що якщо вони прокралися всередину, то тікати нікуди. Я бачив твою квартиру."
ДМ: "Там є вікно."
ФА: "І ти вилізеш через вікно?"
ДМ: "Я… я не настільки жирний, Френку." *регоче*
ФА: "Ні! Я не про це!"
ДМ *регоче*: "Це досить маленьке вікно."
ФА: "Ти б справді зробив це? Якби ти почув, що у дім прокралися, ти би вистрибнув з вікна?"
ДМ: "Ох, не знаю, я би мав спробувати. Не знаю, що б я зробив."
ШС: "В тебе має бути план."
ФА: "От і я про це."
ДМ: "У мене є кілька планів насправді…"
ФА: "У тебе є зброя?.. Схована?"
ДМ: "У мене є ніж у шухляді."
ФА: "Який саме ніж?"
ДМ: "О ні, я його дістав звідси, він тепер у машині. Дідько!"
ФА: "Що ж ти тепер робитимеш?"
ДМ: "Що ж я тепер робитиму?" *сміються*
ФА: "Тобі треба було би вистрибнути з вікна, піти до машини…" *регочуть*
ШС *сміючись*: "Повернутися назад і встромити ніж у вбивцю."
ДМ: "Я накидаю на підлогу всякого, типу пульти, ще щось."
ШС: "Ти маєш покласти кокоси на підлозі біля ліжка."
ДМ: "Шоне, ти геній!"
ФА: "Лайнокульки!"
ШС і ДМ: "Лайнокульки." *сміються* (це посилання на жарт із сьомого епізоду)
ФА: "Тож ти перевіряєш, чи нема нікого під ліжком… Бо…"
ДМ: "Так. Бо у мене в голові є ця дивна манія, що змушує мене думати, що хтось застрелить і вб'є мене. Поки я спатиму."
ШС: "А мені здається, з усіх ти би був останньою людиною, яку хто-небудь хотів би вбити."
ФА: "Я теж так думаю."
ДМ: "І я сподіваюся- Дякую! Я теж на це сподіваюся, але мій маленький скажений мозок іноді перенавантажується…"
ФА: "А чому ти думаєш, що вони б прокралися і чекали би, поки ти повернешся у ліжко і заснеш, аби вбити тебе?"
ДМ: "Розумієш, я не знаю."
ШС: "Аби він спочатку сходив у туалет. *ФА регоче* Спочатку треба дати йому поссати!"
ФА: "Так, хотілося б, аби він спочатку спустив це." *сміються*
ДМ: "Отут і є вся шиза. Я багато разів сам із собою це обговорював, мовляв, окей, я поссав, зайшов у кімнату і я усвідомлюю, зачиняючи двері- Адже там подвійний замок."
ФА: "НІ!!!"
ДМ: "Ще б пак. Я маю зачинити двері у спальню. У кожній квартирі, де я жив, я зачиняв двері."
ФА: "Ти знущаєшся!"
ДМ: "Ага. Тож я лягаю у ліжко і наступає цей момент реального, логічного усвідомлення, коли я думаю *повільно і спокійно*: "Ок. Чесно. Ніхто не проліз у твій дім. Ніхто не збирається прийти та вбити тебе. Ніхто *пауза і далі виразно* не є настільки хорошим убивцею *ШС і ФА РЕГОЧУТЬ*, що зміг би прокрастися у дім через вхідні двері, що зачинені *сміються*, і прокрався би у твою спальню, поки ти ссеш…"
ФА: "По стелсу."
ДМ: "… До того ж ти не так голосно ссеш. І прокрався би у кімнату, не вдарившись колінами об ліжко, яке знаходиться одразу після дверей, і не врізався у… Адже там повна пітьма."
ФА: "Повна темінь. І потім їм потрібно знову чекати."
ДМ: "Чекати, затримуючи подих, поки я повернуся. Бо, може, я пішов "по великому" *регочуть*, не знаю, я там уже якийсь час. *сміються* Тож цей план ніяк не міг би бути втілений в життя, але я все одно думаю: "Якщо я не перевірю, то я не зможу заснути, бо мій мозок думатиме про те, що, можливо, я все-таки мав би перевірити. Тому я просто перевіряю. Це легше."
ФА *сміючись*: "Хтось сидить там і думає: "БУДЬ ЛАСКА, ЗАСНИ ВЖЕ. Аби я міг тебе вбити. Чекаю тут вже 20 хвилин, ти не перевірив, і я чую, що ти не спиш." *врегочуються*
ДМ: "Тепер: це досить дивно, але коли я з кимось зустрічаюся і вони сплять у моєму ліжку…"
ФА: "Ти зачиняєш двері?"
ДМ: "Я зачиняю двері."
ФА: "НІ!!!"
ДМ: "Це правда. Я зачиняю двері, але під ліжком не перевіряю, бо я думаю *починає сміятися*, що я би почув, як спочатку їх вбивають. *регочуть* І якщо таке станеться, то мені ок."
Ще більше реготні, жартів і "локальних мемів". ФА ще каже: "Не дочекаюся, коли сам прокрадуся до тебе тепер і сховаюся під ліжком." ДМ каже, що це було чудове запитання, і вони переходять до наступного…
"Чи маєте ви улюблений мем з вами?"
ФА сміється і каже, що так. "Хтось відправив його мені нещодавно. Він неймовірний. Я не знаю, хто його зробив і чому. Не знаю, чи це посилання на їхній "локальний жарт" про мене… Але мені його відправив хтось, не знаю, чи сам автор. Самий жарт настільки смішний, що змусив мене сміятися вголос 20 хвилин, і я відправив його усім, кого знаю."
ШС: "Але ми не бачили його."
ФА: "Справді?"
ДМ: "Ні, нам ти не відправив."
Далі ФА нарешті знаходить цей мем і показує усім. Вибух сміху. ФА: "Це до біса геніально! Не знаю, чому його взагалі зробили. Це такий хороший мем. Я часто бачу різні дивні речі з моєю дивною пикою на них. Але цей мем такий смішний. Тут моє фото з якогось в біса 2001 чи щось таке, де я виглядаю максимально неохайно, а на тлі, як я розумію, фотка стелажів з предметами жіночої гігієни у супермаркеті, й підпис: "Агов кралю, я у відділі з прокладками, який у тебе розмір піхви?"
Хлопці регочуть і обговорюють те, що це дуже дивно, але все одно смішно. ФА пояснює, що йому хтось прислав це у Твіттері: "Я не знаю, чи мене хтось тегнув у розмові між двома іншими людьми, але я побачив цю хрінь зі своїм обличчям і подумав: "Джизаз, що це?" Іноді я клікаю на ці @нікнейми, знаєте? І клікаю на свій і просто починаю скролити вниз, а потім рандомно зупиняю десь і дивлюся, що там."
Далі серйозне запитання, на яке вони відповідають досить коротко. "Чи були якісь сварки між учасниками гурту, коли хтось йшов з нього?" (Не зрозуміло, про який саме гурт йдеться, може, про всі, у яких вони грали.)
ФА: "Оу мен. Ну, всі ми люди, тому іноді таке стається і важко одразу зрозуміти, що це не така вже й гігантська штука, але коли ти граєш у гурті у своєму юнацтві, коли присвячуєш цьому своє життя, а хтось просто каже: "З мене все, я пішов," – то це спантеличує, знаєш? Коли усю свою душу в це вкладаєш. Тож іноді тобі важко таке сприймати, але думаю, згодом це проходить."
ДМ: "Так. З віком ти перестаєш перейматися речами, які могли спантеличувати тебе тоді у юнацтві. Мовляв, і чому ми навіть злилися через це тоді?"
ФА: "Ага."
"Якби ви могли змінити ваші імена, які б ви вибрали?"
ФА – Стів, ШС – Чарльз Істер, ДМ – Дракула. ФА пропонує: Д-р Акула (Доктор Акула. Якщо чесно, українською це навіть краще, ніж англійською, бо Acula на жаль нічого не значить. Більше про цей прикол з Dr. Acula можете дізнатися отут на Вікі, до речі.) Жартують, сміються… ДМ каже, що було би кльово, якби в Старбаксі його називали Дракулою, але він ніяк не може насмілитися сказати, що його так звати. Ще ФА каже, що змушує своїх дітей називати його Доктор Батько (Doctor Father. Він твітив про це), але вони не дуже вірять, що це його справжній "титул", у чому він намагається їх переконати.
З наступним запитанням хлопці обговорюють те, що у ДМ є багато гральних кубиків/дайсів, бо він любить грати в Dungeons and Dragons і колекціонувати різні кубики, з різних матеріалів і бла-бла-бла. Саме запитання було, щоправда, про те, як вони пораються з депресією, і вони відповідають, що до цього треба ставитися серйозно і звертатися за допомогою. Далі запитання від "Френка з Нью Джерсі": хлопці повертаються до теми з привидами та обговорюють те, коли саме вони почали з'являтися, що потрібно для того, аби істота перетворилася на привида, і озвучують купу прикольних думок… [..]
"Френку, який твій улюблений рядок з однієї з твоїх пісень?"
ШС: "Я можу сказати, яка частина однієї з пісень Френка мені найбільше подобається."
ДМ і ФА: "О давай."
ШС: "Кінець в… Дідько, як вона називається… Почекайте. Я не буду тебе запитувати, хоча ти прям тут сидиш."
ФА: "Та я все одно напевно не зможу сказати."
ШС: "А, друга пісня. Veins. Саме кінець цієї пісні. Я завжди думаю: "Чому цього так мало?" Думаю, це одна з моїх улюблених частин з однієї з пісень Френка."
ФА: "Мені теж подобається. Дякую. Кльово. Є кілька рядків з тієї пісні, які мені здаються суперовими. [..] Не знаю, є кілька чудових рядків з альбому Pencey, які Хембоун написав, які мені дуже подобаються. “See you around sometime on the 6th of never.” ("Побачимося шостого числа ніколи-місяця," щось таке. Це останній рядок з PS Don't Write.) Цей рядок завжди виділявся для мене. І ще увесь текст 8th Grade."
ДМ: "Так, це була емоційна пісня для мене."
ФА: "Це була крута пісня."
Далі ДМ називає кілька своїх улюблених пісень, тексти до яких написав він: з його гурту Bride and Bastards такі пісні, як Prayer For a Homesick Sailor, Last Call, Fear and Loathing in New Jersey. Потім він каже, що його улюблена пісня з репертуару Френка це She's The Prettiest: "досконале аранжування, досконалий текст". ФА розповідає більше про пісню: "Це цікава пісня. Мені подобається, як з кожним разом, коли приспів повторюється, то до нього додається новий рядок. І це така пісня, яку, мені здається, я не чув раніше; саме написана про важкі романтичні стосунки. Бо зазвичай люди пишуть любовні пісні, де співається: "Все чудово, все ідеально," адже, ну, вам добре один з одним і все таке, але іноді ти перебуваєш у таких стосунках, де не через усе ти почуваєшся добре, знаєте? Але це не зменшує реальність і вагомість самих стосунків. Тож це була одна з таких пісень, коли я подумав: "Я ніколи раніше не чув пісню про такі незвичайні, нестандартні стосунки."
Далі хлопці відповідають на запитання про татуювання і розказують різні історії. ДМ поділився "п'яною" історією тату на його дупі… зате це було безкоштовно. Хтось порадив йому набити "heartbreaker" і розбите серце, а потім хтось, Шон чи Френк, запропонував "Hambreaker", адже його прізвисько це "Hambone". Тепер зрозуміло, чому в Хембоуна такий нікнейм у Твіттері. Коротше, жарти, сміх, весело.
Ще є вставочка де Хембоун каже, що це останній епізод першого сезону подкасту, і більше епізодів ��е буде до осені. Тим не менш, у середині липня вийшов десятий бонусний епізод, у якому брали участь The Future Violents, але про це вже у наступному пості.
(посилання на переклад наступного епізоду)
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Casual Interactions 10: Full Transcription
John: Greetings from Asbury Park, New Jersey and welcome to Casual Interactions. I'm John "Hambone" McGuire, and today we've got Frank and the Future Violents here in an airstream trailer outside of the Asbury Lanes, and we're gonna talk to you about the album Barriers and a little behind the scenes action about Frank's upcoming video for Great Party, as well as his summer tour that's going on right now. Now this is a little bit different than your traditional episode of Casual Interactions. Unfortunately, Shaun could not be here with us to hang out, he is here in spirit. And Frank, Shaun, and I will be back in the fall with more episodes of Casual Interactions as promised. This is just a little something to get you through the summer blues and hopefully to get you excited to go see Frank on tour right now. Check it out. This is everyone's first time playing at the Lanes since they've redone the lanes.
Everyone: Yes.
J: Anyone play here before?
Everyone: Yeah.
Frank: I've been here before. Yeah, Thursday did a couple shows here.
Tucker: Four nights of it, yeah.
F: Oh damn!
J: No big deal. Sold out every one.
T: In a row.
F: Did you say fortnight?
T: Fortnight, yeah. Two weeks worth.
J: Put me on the guest list, I appreciate it.
F: Hey, what are you gonna do?
T: I'm always gonna do that for my friends.
J: It's a Jersey thing. I call him up, I say.
T: I got a guy down there.
J: "I know your mom."
F: Thursday, playing on a Wednesday.
T: (unintelligible)
F: Oh man. Alright, so flashback to about 20 years ago. 1999, say.
J: -ish, yeah.
F: Ish. Pencey Prep signs to Eyeball Records, right? It's a band that myself and Hambone were both in. At that point, Tucker's in Thursday still, and you guys are on Eyeball. Waiting is coming out, or just came out?
T: Just coming out, I believe. It was like, that day or something, it feels like. I remember it being simultaneous.
J: You know, for the longest time I thought that that album was actually called Porcelain. Yeah.
F: Originally?
T: I think it might've almost been called Porcelain.
J: Yeah. It definitely wasn't called Porcelain.
F: I remember though, being at an Eyeball party. I feel like the best thing about Eyeball house and Eyeball parties, was that every time you went there, you were gifted the new release.
J: Yes.
F: Even if you had it already, you were still given the CD. So I got Waiting and I remember then going on vacation and listening to it nonstop.
J: Right.
F: In Long Beach Island, and thinking like, "Oh my god, this fucking record's amazing." And then meeting you at a party later on, and being like, "Alright, I wanna be in a abdn with him."
J: It was a game changer, for sure.
F: Yeah. And then shortly after that, meeting Matt because Murder By Death, or at that time, Little Joe Gould.
Matt: Right, it was still, yeah.
F: Was touring, or you guys met them on tour?
T: We met them on tour at a coffee shop together.
M: No, it was the stinky Anarchist bookstore.
T: Same thing.
M: Close enough. Much worse smell.
T: Potato / potato.
J: I've heard it both ways.
M: It was called The Secret Sailor but it was actually known as The Stinky Pirate.
F: Weird.
J: Where was that?
M: That was in Bloomington. And at that point, Full Collapse was recorded but not quite out yet.
T: Yes.
M: And our friend who had booked the show said, "Hey, this band needs to jump on," and we were like, "Okay." And I think it was Geoff, was like, "I got a friend in Jersey, he's gonna put your record out." We were like, "Nice to meet you, you guys are great, we'll never talk to you again."
F: That's actually called the Jersey role. That's what we usually do. We always make some plans, then we'll never see you again.
T: It usually means, "Get away from me," or "Let's actually do this."
M: Turned out it was "Let's actually do this thing."
F: So then I remember, flash forward a couple months later, being at the Eyeball house and Alex who ran the label, and Mark, got a card from you guys in the mail. Like, a handmade card because they had signed you, or said they were gonna put your record out. I mean, at that point it was just handshake deals, but got a card saying, "Thank you. We're so glad to join the family," and everybody was so excited, and then we heard your record, and everybody was like, "Oh my god, we need to get better right now." Because I remember everybody at the label being like, "Oh, we all thought everybody on the label was good, but this is the best record we've ever put out. This is the best record."
J: Banger.
F: Yeah.
T: Aw.
F: It's true.
J: And then we actually saw you live and then everyone actually started practicing.
F: Yeah yeah, totally! Yeah.
J: Because, I don't know if you recall when, the first time they came around to the area, they just got thrown on a show at the Loop Lounge. And this is a little ways after Great White burned the club down, but still early enough that Carl and Bruce would let you light things on fire onstage, so Little Joe Gould at the time had a stage show where they'd be blowing fire. They had a little keyboard player, Vincent; a small, unassuming, meek little dude who would actually spit Gene Simmons fireballs, and then the old drummer Alex would light the cymbals on fire. And this is a small club with not the highest ceiling.
F: And the ceiling's covered in just shit on the wall, Applebee's type things. There's a motorcycle, and there's dust on top of that, and a fish tank with dead fish in it.
T: And all of it was on Alex's head.
M: Yeah, but stuff that wants to be on fire.
F: Oh yeah, probably, yeah. He's burned me.
J: Almost took out the disco ball one night.
M: We had some close calls in those days. I remember playing at the Fireside Bowl in Chicago and the guys came up and they're like, "Listen, we don't wanna do this, but we have been told if you do the setting shit on fire thing, we're supposed to kick all of your stuff over and blast you with fire extinguishers and you don't get paid." We're like, "That's probably bullshit, but point taken."
F: Yeah, "gotcha."
M: "Cool, we'll take the night off."
F: Alright. So let's stop there, and go to the weird other thing that happened was Kayleigh, you at this point are in upstate New York.
Kayleigh: Yes.
F: Right? Alright, in college?
K: Where are we going?
F: Well, you took a class.
K: Oh yeah! Okay!
F: And Tucker, yeah.
K: I was like-
F: I'm sorry!
K: "At what part of my life am I in upstate New York? What's happening?"
J: Real long way to go to get a superhero origin story.
F: Watch though, this is crazy. So, you're-
K: I went to college at Fredonia State, which is a very unassuming college in western New York, but it's really great for, at the time, it was one of the only state schools that was offering music business as a major. So, I went there to study music business and get a degree. I was touring in a band at the time, and my parents told me if I got a degree, that after I graduated I could come home and tour. So, went to school for music business, and the thing about Fredonia that's really cool, is that it has a great sound recording program because Dave Fridmann lives in Fredonia. So, all the time, there's also this awesome bar called BJ's who everybody used to play there, but all of Dave Fridmann's bands when they were recording would also usually play at this tiny dive bar. Because they'd be working on new material, or just finished a record, or whatever, so I saw MGMT, I've seen Explosions in the Sky, all these- Sleater Kinney.
F: That was like your Wayne Firehouse, basically.
K: It was the coolest little place, and yeah, one day I went to class, my music business class, and Thursday was the guest speakers at my class.
J: And this class was, "Don't take a handshake deal at a party house."
F: "Never sign a man named Matt from Indiana and bring him to Jersey."
T: I just remember going into this class. It was Geoff and I, and you know, everyone looked like babies to me, because we felt like old people in there, but everyone was like, "Get out of here. We don't care about a single word you have to say, you hacks."
F: "Go cry about it, emo kid."
T: "Shouldn't you be partying instead of teaching this class?"
K: But I think that's also funny. It didn't dawn on me that that actually happened until we were rehearsing at your house. And I said something about Fredonia, and you were like, "Oh, I've been there," and I was like, "Oh my god, you have. And I was there too."
F: I like how Fredonia also sounds just like a place that Dave Fridmann would make up in his head of like, "If I were the ruler of a kingdom, it'd be Fredonia and I would have a music school there and I would bring Thursday in to talk!"
T: Exactly. Fridmann, Fredonia.
F: Come on.
T: His name is Dave Fredonia.
J: Writes itself.
F: Just saying.
M: It also sounds like a medication to get you off of something else.
F: Oh yeah, that too.
M: Like, "I gotta run this cycle of Fredonia."
T: In the commercials, people are riding bikes through a really green field, you know?
Evan: Side effects are deathly diarrhea.
T: So much diarrhea in one of those two bathtubs on the hill for no fucking reason. That's the one.
J: Yeah, but you know what? You could climb mountains and kayak.
T: Probably after the diarrhea. You do what you gotta do.
J: One would hope.
F: Alright, last circle of weird coincidences. So, My Chem goes on tour and Murder By Death plays with us at Club Krome, right?
M: Yes.
F: With Vox.
M: That was the Halloween show.
F: Halloween show. And Evan is at that show. That's also the first, I don't know if that was the show or the venue where your first band, On Arms, we had you guys open for My Chem.
E: That's right.
F: Was that the same show?
E: I don't think so. I don't think that was the first one.
F: But it was the same venue.
E: It might've been Starland.
F: Oh shit.
E: It was right when you guys released Three Cheers, I think.
J: No, it was neither one of those clubs. It was the Birch Hill Nightclub.
F: No, we never got the play that because Otter took a shit downstairs and it blew the fucking pipes up. And then they flooded the whole room and no one could, you couldn't play there for months. It was crazy! It was like the dead of winter. Alright, so in the dead of winter, we show up and it's a long drive, it was like 20 minutes or whatever, so Otter's like, "I gotta go to the bathroom." So he runs down to the downstairs and he takes a poop, and he flushes and it blows the- it explodes the entire pipe system at the venue. So it floods the entire downstairs and they have to close the club down.
Geoff: Hey guys.
F: Hey Geoffy.
J: Hey buddy!
F: We're talking about history.
G: Oh I love history.
J: And poop stories!
F: So yeah, for the longest time, you couldn't play Birch Hill Nightclub anymore, and what was the venue attached to it?
J: That's what I was thinking of.
T: Was it Stingrays?
J: Stingrays, yeah.
T: There was a two room deal.
J: What was the show that we did I Am A Graveyard before My Chem, when Gerard came out and did the big Winston Churchill Iron Maiden intro?
F: Yeah, that was weird. That was a one-off thing I think.
J: Either way, at that time, Otter was subsisting on a diet of nothing but Popeye's fried chicken so you can understand how what was gonna happen, was gonna happen.
F: And Fredonia. High dose of Fredonia. Oh man. So that's over 20 years, that's how this band is kinda starting to form, right? And then, I guess flash forward to 2017, 2018? No, alright, let's flash forward to 2016 because we get into an accident, and then shortly after that, we ended up starting touring again, and we go on tour with Dave Hause and the Mermaid, and that's how we really meet Kayleigh. And our first show is in Williamsburg, a music hall in Williamsburg. I remember watching Dave's set, especially seeing Kayleigh playing and how she sings and all that stuff, playing basically everything on the stage, she would just run around and play everything. I was like, "Holy fuck!" These are the types of people, getting to see Thursday, getting to see Murder By Death, and the way that these people in thsi room thought about music. How it wasn't just like, "Oh, I'm just following a guitar part," you know? You see a performance where it's like, "There's three guitar players onstage. They're all playing the same thing. That's so weird. Okay, I guess nobody wanted to sit down." But you know, the idea that you're creating a soundscape with a bass, you know? Or you're playing a melody on the drums that's like, that's the hook of the song. Even though it's very rhythmic, there's a melody there. Same thing with Kayleigh, her solo records and the stuff that she was doing with Dave, that's the stuff that I saw, it was just like, "Whoa, these people think on a different level," you know? So, I started those other projects and had Evan in with the Cellabration and the Patience, and I always knew if I can, I never wanna be in a band without Evan again, you know what I mean? So that's just always gonna happen. But how do we fill this out, how do we do this, get to the next step, next level, and have people in it that are really pushing the envelope and inspiring you on a daily basis? And it just so happened that at the end of 2017 or beginning of 2018, everybody was going to end up being free to do some songs. Or at least Tucker and Matt and Evan were, and then we found out later on that Kayleigh might be free to come in and write some stuff with us.
J: It's awesome. I know from an outsider perspective, watching you go through the different bands. I'll tell you, Evan's great because no matter what band of guys you got backing you up, I always know it's Evan playing guitar.
F: Right, yeah.
J: You're like the secret weapon. You know? He's like the secret sauce. Like the In 'N Out sauce except we can get you on the east coast which is nice. You know? But I mean it's a cool thing because having written a record, I've written a bunch of music with you, and then watching you write the songs for My Chem, because you were pretty writing them in my apartment.
F: That's true.
J: I know what it was for you to strike out on your own and do the Cellabration and do the Patience, but always kinda having that really nice constant which is Evan.
F: Yeah.
J: And then I also remember sitting there over breakfast, me, you, and Shaun. By the way, Shaun couldn't be here tonight, he had something else to do. Anyway...
F: He got him so good, look at him!
J: We were having breakfast and he was telling me, he's like, "Yeah, I'm starting up a new thing," and I'm like, "So who you got?" And he goes, "Well of course Evan. But I think I can get Tucker, I think I can get Matt," and I popped. I was like, "Really?!" And I've compared it to getting the stacks rhythm section, like the MG's backing you up. And I was psyched.
F: And the MT's.
J: Yeah, the MT's.
T: I came in cheap, four million.
J: Print some t-shirts, make some money together.
T: Five grand.
J: And I mean, I heard the songs too. I came over to your house and we hung out.
F: That's right! You sat in on one of the early recording sessions.
J: I sat in on one of the early writing sessions. And he's like, "There's this girl, I wanna bring her on, I think it's gonna be the difference maker," and it was. You came in.
F: I agree.
J: Like the secret weapon.
F: That was the final brick in the wall. It was like, "This is really something awesome and special, but I know what it can be and how incredible it can be," and that was bringing Kayleigh in.
J: And I'll tell you the Stomachaches and Parachutes both are incredible records.
F: Thank you.
J: But this is the first record that I've heard you do in a while where I feel like you were writing with other people. Other people who were not just sitting there being like, "Alright, you play this, you play this, you play this," like everyone brings their own their own unique, special thing to the party, and it's fucking awesome.
F: I agree. That's the thing too is like, this is the first record where people are writing in a room, they're familiar with the songs, they're writing the parts that they wanna play, and really knowing what the song needs, you know? So like, they're writing for the betterment of that song, and then going into the studio and they're the ones that are playing it, live in the room, to tape. That, we've never had before. You know?
J: Now how many songs did you have written before you started bringing other people in? Not counting Evan because you guys work together a lot, but you know, how many skeletons did you have before you started bringing people on board?
F: Well I had a list of like 21 skeletons, a lot of which we never even touched. And then that would kinda be filtered out. I'd bring one in, I think the first one we worked on was Moto Pop. And that was, "Alright, we're on a roll here." There's songs like Medicine Square Garden that started as a kind of an idea I had written down on paper but I couldn't, I didn't have the full idea of what the song should look like. I couldn't be like, "Oh it's E, F, G," it wasn't like that. It was more like, "I had this idea of a song where it feels like this, and the guitar line sounds like this and follows the vocal but it doesn't make sense so I can't just write it down."
J: So what was the song when you brought everyone in, where you're like, "Fuck yeah, this is it, we got something."
F: I think Medicine was the first time it was like, "Whoa, we did it."
T: That was like the end boss, that song.
F: Yeah, I agree.
T: It was like, "If we can conquer the initial structure of that one."
F: "Then we can do anything." Yeah.
M: I think the first time I came over, I think Young And Doomed was one of the first ones that we worked on just because it's like, we can get something mostly nailed down with that but when we got into Medicine, I remember that one was giving me fits, because it was like you were describing it and I don't know what my part of that is yet. And for the first couple of days it was like everything I tried to play sounded like Livin' On A Prayer by Bon Jovi or something.
F: Yeah yeah yeah!
M: And this is not what it's supposed to be, but it's the only thing my stupid hands do.
J: You are in New Jersey.
M: Right.
J: It's contagious.
M: Maybe I'm trying too hard to sneak in under the Jersey radar.
T: The gift that keeps on giving.
M: But when it clicked it felt like such a victory, you know? It was like, "Okay, we can do it."
J: How about you, Kayleigh? When was the moment for you?
K: I think that what Matt was describing was pretty much my entire- because I came in late to the project because I was busy for the first half of the year and then-
F: She's been on tour for three years straight.
J: Oh yeah, she's a musician's musician. You're even sneaking off to do a show on one of your days off.
K: I know. Surprise, yeah. Surprise show.
J: That's fantastic.
K: But doing multi-instrumentalist work, I think it's I'm a glutton for punishment in the best and worst ways because I kind of approach this project like I don't know what- not only do I not know what to play, parts wise, I don't know what instrument would be best for this song. And also kind of trying to figure out the groundwork that was the bones of all of these songs was already so put together, and so awesome, that I was almost- it really challenged me where I was like, "I can't fuck this up, what am I gonna- what kind of sprinkles am I gonna put on top that's gonna make it, can I make it better? Am I gonna make it better?"
F: What's funny I think is you tread carefully on that stuff because you don't want to step on toes like that, but you're initial instincts are always so great, and make, at least me, think about songs in different ways, and that's why it was so amazing having you come in. To jump forward again, having a new band play old songs is kinda crazy. And then also bringing in musicians that play different instruments is like, "Wow alright, now you have to really reinvent songs off Parachutes and Stomachaches for the live show." So like, she'll be like, "Oh, I was originally thinking violin on a song like Veins," and I was like, "Wow, that's so fucking crazy!" I never would've thought to do that. But now, I can't not hear that song without that instrumentation, it's crazy.
J: So let me bring it back a second. You know, a lot of musicians play a lot of their songs and their hits for years and years and years, and it's almost taboo to kinda try to reinvent that. I mean, we remember the Bob Dylan incident at the Tropicana where we didn't remember-
F: That was so weird.
J: We didn't know a single song until he got to the choruses, but how does it feel for you to have new life being breathed into these songs.
T: He just grazed right over that, by the way.
F: I love it.
J: I'm good at what I do, Tucker. I'm a goddamn professional!
T: You really are!
F: I love it. That to me, having that ability and opportunity to be creative on the road as well as in the studio, that fucking rules, you know? To know that- here's the thing that I attribute that to, that Lou Reed thing where he would put out a record and then you'd go see him, and that shit was different already because he was already onto the next thing. I think that you have to do that type of shit.
J: Now are you pulling out some songs that maybe you would not have played on this tour because it's more fun now with everybody?
F: Yeah, I guess so. I mean, I've put together a list of songs that I thought would be really fun to do with this band, and that's what we've been doing. But I think now, seeing how those things have changed and how much better we've made then, I would like to kinda go back and look at other stuff. But also at the same time, you run into this project, all you wanna play is new stuff.
J: Of course. What old song do you think is the best, is better now having the new crew?
F: Man. I like Veins with the violin in it, it's fantastic to me. I think Let You Down, now Kayleigh's playing an acoustic on there, I've always wanted that rhythmic section to that. We've been doing this rendition of Miss Me with just acoustic guitar and violin and I think that's really really fun.
E: Viva with the violin too sounds incredible.
F: Viva, oh my god! Yeah, that might be my favorite.
J: Kayleigh, how many instruments do you play?
K: Pretty much violin, guitar, piano. But then the mandolin is the same as the violin, so that makes- that adds that to it. I play the ukulele but who doesn't?
J: That's right.
K: And then there's that whole assortment of keyboard based instruments that if you know how to play piano, you can pretty much weasel your way around.
J: You would think that ska bands would've figured out getting a multi-instrumentalist years ago, instead of having like nine guys.
F: Eight guys, and one guy dances.
J: Four dudes, Kayleigh, and a dancer who also sells merch.
F: But yeah, I don't know.
T: The Merch Pit.
F: I'm having so much fun, seriously. I will say this too. In addition to the playing, which is beyond anything expectation I had, I've never laughed more than in this band.
J: That's awesome.
F: It hurts your lungs.
T: Oh totally.
F: It's kind of amazing, yeah.
J: How was the first leg of the tour, speaking of people you're gonna laugh with, with James Dewees?
F: Oh my god.
E: He is such a character.
J: Did he make you watch a lot of Seinfeld?
E: Well, we were going to originally! I actually brought-
K: I'm not sure who wanted to watch Seinfeld, James or Evan.
E: That's true. Apparently, James had all of the episodes on his iPod.
F: Yes.
E: He would just watch them on his iPod. Which a screen of an iPod, old school iPod classic, is what? Two inches by an inch and a half?
J: Yeah.
E: And he still watches all of them?
J: All the TV he needs.
F: I feel like James has pigeon sight, where he can see in 360 and everything looks big. I think like an iPod screen, that's fine.
J: I think all the candy he eats helps him focus.
E: Yeah exactly. But I had brought all of the episodes on DVD with us, but of course, this bus that we just had didn't have a DVD player!
J: That's old technology.
E: I know!
T: This stack of shit would just get moved to this side, to this side, to this side.
J: It was a lot of seasons!
T: Yeah.
J: Oh man. So that first leg was James, this next leg of your tour, you're going over to Europe first with Laura Jane Grace.
F: Yes. Yeah, and The Devouring Mothers. Yes, we get to hang out with Atom and Mark Hudson, it's gonna be fun.
J: And then when you're back in the states hitting the west coast, it's when Geoff.
F: Geoff, yeah. Who's actually playing tonight as well.
J: Fantastic.
F: So we're going to do the UK. We got a couple of festivals actually happening next week. We're going a UK festival, we're going a couple of shows in Russia, Kiev, and then a Czech festival, and one other that I can't think of.
E: Back in the UK.
F: Another UK. And then we'll be back here to do a festival in upstate New York.
J: Cool.
F: With Taking Back Sunday and the Menzingers.
K: Oh, that's right.
F: And Glassjaw, right? And then we do the west coast Warped Tour, and then we do our shows with Geoffy, and then we go back to the UK to do it with Laura Jane. And then, well, before that I think, our video for Great Party is gonna come out.
J: Oh cool!
F: Which I'm really excited for because you're in it too.
J: I'm totally in the video!
F: I know! And it's really good.
J: Yeah. It's a super fun video and we super top secret did it Memorial Day weekend, right?
F: I know. Which I can't believe we got the venue for it. We did it at a Masonic Lodge in Clifton on Memorial Day weekend, and I feel like, even though that's not tied in with veterans and stuff like that, I feel like those things are usually rented out.
J: I thought those guys would be at barbecues, to be honest with you, but they were like, "Yeah, we'll clean up after you guys. We made coffee."
F: It was rad.
T: They were like, "We'll watch you clean up."
F: But I mean the directors, David was amazing, and our friends from Surfbort came out, Sean and Dani.
J: They were amazing.
E: Yeah, they were awesome.
F: Dude, that was the thing too. When I wrote the treatment for the video, the thing that I saw in my hand was Dani's face, really, setting this bomb off.
M: And if you don't know what that face looks like, it'll all make sense when you do.
F: Yeah exactly. That smile, it's all about that devilish grin, it's awesome. It's beautiful.
J: It's gonna haunt your dreams.
F: Yeah, she's so unique and just so amazing.
J: Have you seen the finished product yet?
F: I have, yeah. It's done. I think it comes out on the 18th or something, or the week of the 18th. So yeah.
K: Awesome.
F: I'm very excited.
J: Very cool. I mean, I'm not sure what this day this is gonna drop, but it's gonna drop something around then. So you're either going to get excited because the video's coming out, or be excited because now you've seen the video and you know what we're talking about, and you've seen the face.
F: My kids are excited too because they're in it, but for a split second, so they were really excited to be in it, and then they saw it and they were like, "What the fuck! I'm not in it for long enough!" I was like, "Well, it's not your video."
J: "They cut out my stage!"
T: "You write a song."
F: Yeah.
J: "I thought the kids stayed in the picture! Not this one."
F: "Hey, I told you to clean up your room."
T: They did write a song, Best Friends Forever and it's pretty good.
M: Write another one.
F: Another one!
T: "It's not even on an album, that's on an EP."
J: I think their college funds have been doing fine on royalties.
F: "Write an album track. See how easy it is."
T: "Bring me a single."
J: Alright, so this was Casual Interactions with Frank Iero and the Future Violents. Definitely check them out if they're coming to your town on tour. You will absolutely not regret it. You're gonna have the time of your life.
F: Sick.
J: Party on, dudes.
F: Great job.
E: Love y'all!
K: Thanks!
T: Thanks, Hambone.
J: Bye!
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