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HI me again back with another Welsh law bonanza. For some reason I don't know, u guys really liked the Gwenhwyfar divorce post I did a few weeks back, so allow me to shed some light on how divorces worked as well as marriage payments, and the role of a queen in Welsh law. (Which doesn't have much on it but is FASCINATING.)
Also, I am SUFFERING from cramps so I apologise if I ramble.
First off, Marriage Laws.
So, as previously discussed there were two ways a woman could marry: she could either be given by her family, or she could elope. Now, a woman who eloped would still be entitled to the same monetary payments as a woman who was given in marriage by her kin,
So, the Dues Payable are as follows: Amobyr, Cowyll, Agweddi, Gwaddol, Argyrfreu, and Wynebwerth.
I'm gonna cover Amobyr and Cowyll today, as well as do a lil write-up about Queenship so yeah.
It's a maiden fee! Now, this and the Cowyll are BOTH maiden fees, however, they differ as Cowyll - and we'll get onto it later - is a fee maybe to the lady herself. Sort of a wedding morning gift, I guess. 'Sorry I slept with u, or not, have some money.' Which, is extremely crass.
The Amobyr was fixed to a lady's status and it goes from King, Chief Bard or Storyteller, Chief Officers (so a Distain, which is what we Welsh would call a Seneschal), Minor Officer's daughters, Uchelwyr (so knights or lords), and then your middling noblemen, to peasants, foreigners, and slaves.
It's essentially equal to the revenue the father would get for his land, but EVERY SINGLE WOMAN would get it, regardless of status. High-born or low. The amount's payable regardless of whether you have one penny or seven thousand.
Now, amobyr could be recovered by suit as it was payable to the King and was essentially like protection money. If you made off with somebody's amobyr you were in BIG TROUBLE. HOWEVER, and I really love this fact, the King's daughter's amobyr would be payable not to him BUT TO THE QUEEN, as well as other daughters of high rank like your Pencerddau, chief groom, etc.
Amobyr was payable once a couple had cohabited for the first time, and even had to be payable if a man boasted that he'd shagged a woman and gotten her pregnant, but actually hadn't. Presumably because a) these laws are BIG on honour bonds and things and because you'd lied you'd tarnished that woman's honour and your own, and b) you'd kinda claimed that Lady as yours because you've made her unchaste.
Because it's a maiden fee it - like the Cowyll ' could only be paid ONCE. No more, no less. If you were a widow or wanted remarry, you can't get the amobyr again. Also, if you'd eloped with a dude and your family had caught you before you'd consummated your relationship they didn't have to pay cuz you're still a virgin. Also, if you were raped then the rapist had to pay amobyr to your family in recognition of that.
Finally, a lady who'd had a fling which had resulted in a bastard child* but she hadn't declared who the father was, then she was responsible for the amobyr. However, if she HAD declared who the father was then he had to pay the amobyr instead.
The Cowyll, as I've already said, is a personal payment to the lady that's made on the first morning after marriage.
Now, in North Wales it's always given as money even if you're a King's daughter, BUT if you're in the South then you get la lovely chunk of land. So if you married a prince of Gwynedd, bad luck, just money for u. If you married a Prince of Deheubarth then you are QUIDS IN! (THAT'S YOURS FOR LIFE BABYYYYY)
(Ignore the Agweddi for today. Or don't. Think of it as a tantalising glimpse into the next law I'm gonna cover.)
Cowyll is both paid to just married women AND those who were violated against their will. The wife / lady who had been violated had the right to specify what they wished for their cowyll to be in service of. If she didn't then it just went on stuff for the couple, so I'd imagine whatever the medieval equivalent of IKEA flat pack furniture would've been, that would've been what they'd have chosen.
Also, it's kept entirely separate from the husband's property so he Could Not pinch from it, or use it in service of himself. You couldn't even be deprived of it if you'd had an affair or did any naughty business. That's YOUR MONEY AND BY GOD YOU CAN KEEP IT. Even if you divorced your husband or he you, you would be allowed take your cowyll with you.
Now, finally, QUEENSHIP.
(Particularly handy if you are, like me, doing an Arthurian-inspired, Welsh-set novel and you GOTTA KNOW WHAT GUINEVERE DOES.)
There is not a lot on it because it isn't something that's studied that much (idk why. Wales has tonnes of cool Queens even if they didn't become regent) but we make do with what we can!
You, as King, could marry ANYBODY (Within reason, nobody is marrying a peasant girl) within what would be termed your Cenedl (that's your family.) or out of it.
Kings, we know, often married their first cousins, or second cousins to keep the balance of power within Wales (you gotta remember Wales wasn't united back then! Gwynedd, Powys, and Deheubarth fuckin squabbled like dogs over bones, and Do Not get me started on the littler kingdoms like Arwystli or Senghenydd.)
Seriously, Gwenllian ap Gruffudd ap Cynan (Gwynedd) eloped with Gruffydd ap Rhys (Deheubarth) and they were like distantly related. Or, Gwenllian's brother and v famous boi, Owain Gwynedd married his first cousin, Cristina (and, in doing so, ensured that after his death Gwynedd would have a power vacuum because of squabbling that wouldn't be sorted until Llywelyn Fawr took the throne and overthrew his uncles. It's always fuckin Gwynedd. Even Gwenllian's son, The Lord Rhys, married one of his first cousins, who was also named Gwenllian.)
*Gets slapped with a wet fish* Sorry, I was rambling.
Now, kings did also marry for political alliances. Gruffudd ap Cynan himself married Angharad ferch Owain (can u sense a theme with the names?) because she was from a well-off, noble family who had ties to the Anglo-Saxons when Gwynedd was in a bad spot with the Norman's. Llywelyn Fawr married Joan, the illegitimate daughter of King John of England, when relations became... tense, shall we say.
So, lemme go over some stuff regarding laws real quick before I tell u why I've highlighted these three ladies. (Cuz they're fun and I'm in love with them- uh, you what?)
So all the Codes (North, South, Mid) attach the following to the Queen: a steward, priest, chief groom, door-keeper, and a handmaiden. In Gwynedd she was also given a page, a separate cook (presumably because of poisoning attempts), and a candle-bearer (would LOVE to be that. No joke.) Whereas in Deheubarth she was given a groom of the rein, a sewer, and a footholder. (For all u lovers of the Fourth Branch of the Mabinogi out there this is a win for u.)
The line of Cunedda which (and, fuck me, I can't believe I'm saying this) IS BASICALLY ALL OF THE KINGDOMS OF WALES allowed for transition of royal dignity through a the female as well as the male. That means u could contest ur throne using your mam's blood and status as well as your dad's. Owain Glyndŵr, as I have previously mentioned, did this when he started his rebellion against Henry IV, as his mother descended from both the houses of Gwynedd and Deheubarth and his father descended from Powys. Truly, the people's Prince.
Now, a queen had her own privy purse (Go her), and one-third of the income the king received went to the Queen for her personal use. She also received land grants that went directly to her.
Now, finally, why tf did I highlight those three Queens that I spoke about earlier? Okay, so, Queens couldn't be regents, BUT they absolutely could and did use their power in any way they could.
Angharad ferch Owain was the mother of Owain Gwynedd, Gwenllian, and Cadwaladr. Owain Gwynedd ruled Gwynedd after his dad died in 1137 and led Gwynedd to become Wales' most successful kingdom at that time. He is also the reason why the Prince of Wales is called the Prince of Wales. ANYWAY. He and Cadwaladr had a falling out in 1143 and Angharad, not liking the way Cadwaladr was being treated, took his side. (Dunno why, he killed her step-grandson, Anarawd. Like, Angharad pls. Priorities, del.)
So, Owain ordered his son, Hywel, (yes him of bardic fame) to BURN DOWN Cadwaladr's castle in Aberystwyth. Cadwaladr, enraged, hot-footed it to Ireland where he and the Vikings invaded Gwynedd in an attempt to make Owain give him his lands back.
Angharad supported Cadwaladr by allowing him to beach his forces in her lands of Abermenai in Ynys Môn (Anglesey.) and also tried to intercede on her son's behalf with his brother. Anyways, the brothers were reconciled (for a brief period. Cadwaladr was aligned with the Normans so he remained a thorn in his big bro's side.) and Angharad lived until 1162. Her death led Owain Gwynedd into a melancholic spell.
Gwenllian ferch Gruffudd ap Cynan waged war against the Normans during the Great Revolt. Fighting against the Normans was very much a family affair for, you see, her brothers Owain (previously mentioned cousin-marrier) and Cadwaladr also waged war against the Normans at this time, and their dad, Gruffudd ap Cynan also fought against them SO HE COULD BECOME KING OF GWYNEDD. After her husband left Deheubarth to go and plead with her father for troops and aid men flocked to her and they waged a guerrilla war against the Normans until 1136.
This pains me to say but a Welsh lord betrayed Gwenllian after the Normans - seeking to win back the territory that Gwenllian and Gruffydd ap Rhys had recovered - waged war against them. She and her two eldest sons, Morgan, and Maelgwn died. Morgan in battle, and Maelgwn and Gwenllian were beheaded at Castell Cydweli.
After her death, South Wales rose in rebellion against the Normans. Her brothers, once word reached Gwynedd, invaded Norman-controlled Ceredigion (which was Deheubarth's territory.) and won back Aberystwyth, Llanfihangel, and Llanbadarn. The Welsh battle cry for many years was 'Dial Achos Gwenllian!' Revenge for Gwenllian.
Finally, Joan, Lady of Wales. She's referred to as Siwan in Welsh. She was the daughter of King John (as previously said.) She often mediated between her father and her husband, Llywelyn Fawr. The Brut y Tywysogion writes: 'Llywelyn, being unable to suffer the king's rage, sent his wife, the king's daughter, to him, by the counsel of his leading men, to seek to make peace with the king on whatever terms he could.' I'll probably do a full post about her at some point but yeah, she's cool!
Anyways, hope u enjoyed this!
Okay, hywl fawr!
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“Vieuxpont was in the royal service of King John in Normandy, being in charge of troops and military works, and was the man ordered to oversee Joan’s journey. […] Nevertheless, that John assigned his bastard son Richard and his niece Eleanor to be raised in Robert’s household during certain points in their lives, certainly makes the case more credible that Joan maybe spent longer in Robert’s custody than the time it took sail across the Channel and be settled somewhere in Britain after landing. […]
Another theory as to Joan’s upbringing may reside in a curious grant that the king of England made in February 1203, […] John granted alms to a Cistercian order of nuns for the building of their abbey, Fontaine Guérard. Set in the lush Andelle valley, on the outskirts of Lyon’s forest, the abbey is situated not more than thirteen miles from Rouen, where John spent most of 1203. Is it possible that Joan was originally raised and educated by the nuns of Our Lady of Fontaine Guérard, and that John’s grant to them was a gift of thanks? The lack of information in the charter does not necessarily mean this was not the case.”
— Danna R. Masser, Joan, Lady of Wales
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Joan, Lady of Wales and Lady of Snowdon, also known by her Welsh name often written as Siwan (c. 1191/92 – February 1237) was the illegitimate daughter of King John of England, and was the wife of Llywelyn the Great, Prince of Wales (initially King of Gwynedd), effective ruler of all of Wales. Joan or Siwan in Welsh has been referred to as both "Lady of Wales" and "Princess of Wales".
#Joan of Wales#Lady of Wales#House Plantagenet#women in history#photo#photography#xii century#xiii century
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Some of my doodles and abandoned projects :):
Princess Charlotte Augusta of wales & Leopold I of Belgium in Clone High style
Minoan lady
Princesse de Lamballe
My original character
Leopold I of Belgium again
Joan of Arc
Elizabeth I
Historically accurate Disney Aurora
My bestie in Star Wars universe
Anakin Skywalker
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If you notice any show, movie or character missing that I’ve made gifs of, please let me know. Characters are sorted alphabetically by first their last name and then their first name.
Go to A-M | Last updated: November 21st, 2024
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Nussknacker und Mausekönig (Louise Stahlbaum | Marie Stahlbaum | Zuckerfee/Sugar Fairy)
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Oktoberfest 1900/Oktoberfest: Beer & Blood (Clara Prank | Curt Prank)
Once Upon A Time (Belle French | Colette French | Cora Mills | Ella Mills | Regina Mills / The Evil Queen | Robin Mills | Emma Swan | Anastasia Tremaine | Drizella Tremaine)
Once Upon A Time in Wonderland (Alice | Cora Mills | Anastasia Tremaine)
Outlander (Abigail | Marie Louise de La Tour d'Auvergne | Jocasta Cameron | Margaret Campbell | Geilis Duncan | Geneva Dunsany | Isobel Dunsany | Madame Elise | Brianna Fraser | Claire Fraser | Jamie Fraser | Janet “Jenny” Fraser Murray | Harold “Hal” Grey | John Grey | Lady Grozier | Mary Hawkins | Jeanne LeGrand | Louis XV | Mairi | Laoghaire MacKenzie | Letitia MacKenzie | Joan MacKimmie | Marsali MacKimmie | Mary MacNab | Elias Pound | Alexander Randall | William Ransom | Charles Edward Stuart | Suzette | Margaret Wake Tryon | Martha Washington | Elizabeth “Lizzie” Wemyss | Extras)
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Queen Charlotte: A Bridgerton Story (Agatha Danbury | Queen Charlotte | Violet Ledger | Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart | Princess Charlotte of Wales)
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Reign (Aylee | Kenna de Poitiers | Amy Dudley | Robert Dudley | Claude of France | Greer Norwood | Penelope | Mary Stuart, Queen of Scots | Elizabeth Tudor/Elizabeth I | Elisabeth of Valois)
Reinas/Queens: The Virgin and the Martyr (Joanna of Austria | Empress Maria / Maria of Austria | Margaret Douglas | Bess of Hardwick | Isabel de Osorio | Mary Stuart, Queen of Scots | Isabella Clara Eugenia of Spain | Anna Throndsen | Elizabeth I/Elizabeth Tudor | Elisabeth of Valois)
Rise of Empires: Ottoman (Katarina Branković | Mara Branković | Gülbahar Hatun | Hüma Hatun | Constantine XI Palaiologos)
Romeo & Juliet [2013] (Juliet Capulet)
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Sechs auf einen Streich (see the individual movies)
Shadow and Bone (Tatiana Lantsov | Zoya Nazyalensky | Genya Safin | Alina Starkov)
Sisi [2009] (Elisabeth “Sisi” of Austria | Archduchess Sophie of Austria | Helene “Néné” in Bavaria | Charlotte of Belgium | Eugénie de Montijo)
Sisi [2021] (Elisabeth “Sisi” of Austria | Archduchess Sophie of Austria | Helene “Néné” in Bavaria | Karl Ludwig von Grünne | Eugénie de Montijo)
Sissi Trilogy (Elisabeth “Sisi” of Austria | Archduchess Sophie of Austria | Helene “Néné” in Bavaria | Ludovika, The Duchess in Bavaria)
Snow White and the Huntsman (Ravenna)
Sophie - Braut wider Willen (Sophie von Ahlen)
Still Star-Crossed (Guiliana Capulet | Juliet Capulet | Rosaline Capulet | Tessa Montague | Princess Isabella of Verona)
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The 100 (Emori | Clarke Griffin | Lexa)
The Age of Adaline (Adaline Bowman)
The Last Duel (Marguerite de Carrouges | Jacques Le Gris)
The Little Mermaid [2023] (Vanessa)
The Crown (Catherine Middleton | Queen Elizabeth II | Princess Margaret)
The Empress (see Die Kaiserin)
The Eras Tour (Taylor Swift)
The Gilded Age (Mamie Fish | Bertha Russell | Peggy Scott | Extras)
The Great (Countess Belanova | Catherine the Great | Georgina Dymova | Marial | Queen Agnes of Sweden | Extras)
The Greatest Showman (Jenny Lind)
The Hunger Games Trilogy (Katniss Everdeen | Peeta Mellark | Johanna Mason | Finnick Odair | Coriolanus Snow)
The Hunger Games: A Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes (Lucy Gray Baird | Livia Cardew | Arachne Crane | Clemensia Dovecote | Palmyra Monty | Iphigenia Moss | Juno Phipps | Persephone Price | Diana Ring | Vipsania Sickle | Tigris Snow | Lysistrata Vickers)
The Huntsman: Winter’s War (Freya | Ravenna)
The Originals (Davina Claire | Hayley Marshall | Aurora de Martel | Freya Mikaelson | Hope Mikaelson | Keelin Mikaelson | Rebekah Mikaelson)
The Other Boleyn Girl 2008 (Anne Boleyn | Elizabeth Boleyn (née Howard) | Mary Boleyn)
The Pillars of the Earth (Empress Matilda)
The Princess Switch (Margaret Delacourt | Fiona Pembroke)
The Royals (Princess Eleanor Henstridge | Queen Helena Henstridge | Wilhelmina “Willow” Moreno)
The Scandalous Lady W (Seymour Fleming)
The School for Good and Evil (Emma Anemone | Clarissa Dovey | Leonora Lesso)
The Serpent Queen (Catherine de Medici | Diane de Poitiers | Mary Stuart, Queen of Scots)
The Spanish Princess (Catherine of Aragon | Henry VIII | Mary Tudor)
The Tudors (Catherine of Aragon | Bessie Blount | Anne Boleyn | Anne of Cleves | Katheryn Howard | Ursula Misseldon | Kathryn Parr | Jane Seymour | Elizabeth Tudor/Elizabeth I | Margaret Tudor | Mary Tudor/Mary I)
The Twilight Saga (Charlotte | Alice Cullen | Edward Cullen | Katrina “Kate” Denali | Jasper Hale | Rosalie Hale | Peter | Bella Swan | Caius Volturi | Demetri Volturi | Jane Volturi)
The Vampire Diaries (Bonnie Benett | Caroline Forbes | Elena Gilbert | Jo Laughlin | Rebekah Mikaelson | Katherine Pierce | Annabelle “Anna” Zhu | Pearl Zhu)
The White Queen (Anne Neville | Isabel Neville | Margaret Plantagenet | Bona of Savoy | Elizabeth “Jane” Shore | Elizabeth Woodville | Cecily of York | Margaret of York)
The White Princess (Mary of Burgundy | Elizabeth of York)
The Witcher (Calanthe of Cintra | Pavetta of Cintra | Tissaia de Vries | Philippa Eilhart | Sabrina Glevissig | Margarita Laux-Antille | Triss Merigold | Keira Metz | Lydia van Bredevoort | Yennefer of Vengerberg)
The Young Victoria (Victoria, The Duchess of Kent (née of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld) | Prince Albert of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha | Adelaide of Saxe-Meiningen | Queen Victoria)
Three Thousand Years of Longing (Hürrem Sultan | Kösem Sultan)
Trenck - Zwei Herzen gegen die Krone (Anna Amalia of Prussia)
Tulip Fever (Mrs Overalt | Sophia Sandvoort | Mrs Steen)
Tut (Ankhesenamun)
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Vampire Academy [2022] (Vasilisa “Lissa” Dragomir)
Victoria (Queen Victoria | Victoria, Princess Royal)
Vom Reich zur Republik (Victoria, Princess Royal)
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War & Peace [2016] (Natasha Rostova)
What We Do In The Shadows (Marwa)
Wolf Hall (Anne Boleyn | Catherine of Aragon)
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Tagged by @mezmer but I’m not reblogging a giant thread because ugly
Last song: idk, I have a copy of Thunder! Lightning! Strike! by The Go! Team in the car so whatever track was playing when I last got out.
Favorite color: probably like slime green but Brat summer kind of ruined that for me sooooo
Currently reading: Slouching Towards Bethlehem (with @fashionmajor and @burt-reynolds in our Didion book club that SOME LADIES have been slacking on [hehe])
Currently watching: I’ve been flipping between Below Deck Med, Enlightened, and random YouTube video essays on the history of interior design and architecture.
Last movie: Mean Girls actually (I was reminiscing)
Sweet/spicy/savory: savory and spicy
Relationship status: doing the cellblock tango with my baby daddy
Current obsessions: architectural history and medicinal plants… and Joan Didion and LA history
Tea or coffee: both
Last thing you googled: the Damson Madder website because I saw a video where a girl was wearing one of their dresses and it looked really cute and flattering on her and wanted to see what all they had because I’ve never heard of them before (it’s giving Wales which makes since because they’re UK based)
If you’re reading this, you’re tagged (but also @stroebe2 @highonlife22 @bubbletea4ever @burt-reynolds @fashionmajor and now my brain won’t let me remember anymore handles)
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Lorimer: Decades of Style - 2010s
HRH Dahlia, The Duchess of Westcott, née Lady Dahlia Tindale (born June 2, 1985) married Prince Patrick at Herriot Cathedral in Gaucelin, Iverny on June 14, 2008. She is the younger daughter of Earl Stuart Tindale and his late ex-wife Lady Ramona Houston, a former lady-in-waiting to Queen Laura and a prominent member of Ivernian aristocracy in her own right. The Duchess of Westcott’s mother was a notable socialite and activist for nearly twenty years up until her tragic death in 1999. Lady Dahlia and her sister Adella were childhood playmates of the King and Queen’s children, but Lady Dahlia did not become romantically linked to Prince Patrick until 2005. Following their 2008 engagement and wedding, the Duchess became an international fashion icon, renown for her timeless and elegant monochromatic taste. She shares with her husband the patronage of the Royal Ivernian Arts Council and follows in her mother’s footsteps as a champion of ending childhood hunger around the globe.
April 2011- The Duke and Duchess of Westcott attend the wedding of Prince William of Wales and Miss Catherine Middleton in London, England in place of HM The King. The Duchess wore a royal blue silk dress with a matching fascinator.
October 2012- The Duchess of Westcott, in a charming hunter green wool dress and mustard heels, speaks with physicians, nurses, and medical assistants at the Royal Lorain Hospital.
May 2013- The Duchess of Westcott wows at the annual Chanterry Film Festival in a bespoke strapless white gown and matching opera gloves. She paired the gown with Queen Joan's Pearl Garland Necklace.
July 2014- The Duchess attends an engagement on behalf of the Royal Children's Trust in a short-sleeved rose pink dress and matching hat. After the announcement of her third pregnancy in April 2014, the Duchess debuted a new shoulder-length bob hairstyle. The hairstyle was unfortunately short lived, as the Duchess returned to her signature long waves by 2016.
September 2014- The Duke and Duchess of Westcott attend the Caerinion State Dinner. The Duchess's appearance at this dinner was unexpected, and was her last appearance before the birth of her daughter Princess Frederica in October 2014. However, the Duchess still amazed in a seafoam green Grecian-inspired dress and the Maloret Garland Tiara.
March 2016- The Duchess of Westcott speaks to a young student at St. Anne's Primary School in Bethencort. The Duchess wore a beautiful red lace pencil dress and matching heels.
December 2017- The Duchess, wearing a shimmering metallic lavender evening gown, speaks with guests at the annual Advent Ball at Clemons Palace. The Duchess paired the bespoke gown with her late mother's Houston Arch Tiara, on loan to her from her grandmother, Sophie Styrne-Montague Houston, Duchess of Plamondon.
September 2019- The Duchess poses with her youngest child, Princess Frederica of Westcott, outside Wreatham Park Chapel before the wedding of The Prince Joseph and Miss Penelope Medeiros. The Duchess wore a canary yellow coatdress with pieces of the Pugh Ruby Parure.
other decades in this series
#lorimer decades of style#the lorimers#lorimers: dahlia#sims 4#ts4 royalty#bluep.txt#ts4 2010s#ok typing that as a tag makes me feel old.
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Hello😁 can you share your favorite queens?
Thank you for the great ask anon, of course! 🥰
#1: Queen Alexandra of the United Kingdom – (nèe Princess Alexandra of Denmark, "Alix".
— She was beautiful, a warm and caring mother/grandmother, was popular as Princess of Wales and Queen Consort among of her people because of her good nature, and she supported many charities, including her own: "Alexandra Rose Day", founded by Queen Alexandra in 1912, this was a charity where flowers were being sold and all the money went to supporting Londoners in poverty. This was inspired by a priest in her native Denmark selling roses to raise money for those in need, Queen Alexandra brought the idea back to the United Kingdom. ❤✨
#2: Queen Anne Boleyn of England – (nèe Lady Anne Boleyn)
— She was intelligent, funny, caring and kind to all of people, and as her two years as Queen Consort she supported many charities, and even "gave alms to the poor, provided for widows, and even sewed shirts and smocks for the needy". She also helped with promoting new educational identities for monasteries, which were no longer under the protection of the Catholic Church. After only two years of being Queen Consort when she was said to have been 35 years old, she was executed after being imprisoned in the Tower of London for 17 days because she was accused of committing treason, but the true reason she was executed was because she failed to give King Henry VIII a male heir. ☹️💔
#3: Queen Marie Sophie of the Two Sicilies – (nèe Duchess Marie Sophie in Bavaria)
— She was beautiful, bright, and fierce. She was given the nickname the "Warrior Queen", the "Heroine of Gaeta" and the "modern Joan of Arc", rallying the troops, nursing the injured, feeding her forces at her own table and taunting Garibaldi's army from the battlements with the words; "Go ahead and shoot me. I will be where my men are". It was said of her that the Queen would "wipe your brow if you were wounded or hold you in her arms while you die". ❤️🔥👑
#4: Queen Marie Antoinette of France – (nèe Archduchess Marie Antoinette of Austria)
— She was honest, lovable, bold, a social butterfly who loved gambling, partying and extravagant fashions. Growing up she was closest with her sister, Maria Carolina, who was three years older, and with whom she had a lifelong close relationship. As Queen, Marie Antoinette was always unpopular, she spent lavishly, but her extravagance was only a minor cause of France's growing debt in the 1770-80s. Because of Louis XVI's indecisiveness, Marie played an increasingly prominent political role. But was very beloved for her charitable activities and patronage of the arts. She supported various charitable organizations and institutions, and she was also a benefactress of the poor. 💞🎀
#5: Queen Lovisa of Denmark – (nèe Lovisa of Sweden)
— She was described as intelligent, with an ability to be natural, easy and friendly. And As Queen, she was mainly known for her many charity projects, an interest that she shared with her spouse. She did not care for ceremonial duties and public events, and lived a discreet life dedicated to her children and her interests in art, literature and charity. After a short tenure of only six years as Queen, she was widowed in 1912.
#6: Queen Alexandrine of Denmark – (nèe Alexandrine of Mecklenburg-Schwerin)
— She was reticent by nature. Her childhood was characterised by regular sporting activities, and from a young age she played the piano to a high standard. Her great interest in music stayed with her for her entire life and was passed on to her equally musical eldest son, Prince Frederik (IX). As of her first years as Queen, she had difficulty getting used to public attention, and she preferred to avoid the media limelight, but performed her functions in an exemplary manner. In the home her presence was crucial for the two boys, since Christian X was known for surrounding himself with a certain atmosphere of the barracks. Queen Alexandrine undertook extensive charity work until her death and was an avid golf player and photographer, who also loved doing needlework to a high standard. 💫
#7: Queen Margherita of Italy – (nèe Margherita of Savoy)
— She was described as sensitive, proud and with a strong force of will without being hard, as well as having the ability to be charming when she chose to. As to her appearance, she was described as a tall, stately blonde, but she was not regarded as a beauty. As Queen, she worked to protect the monarchy against republicans and socialists, and she gathered a circle of conservative intellectuals and artists known as the "Circolo della Regina" (Circle of the Queen) in her famous literary salon known as "Giovedì Della Regina" (Queen's Thursdays), where she benefited artists and writers.
#8: Queen Victoria Eugenie of Spain – (nèe Princess Victoria Eugenie of Battenberg), "Ena".
— She was described as very kind but very strict and she devoted herself to work for hospitals and services for the poor, as well as to education. She also involved herself in the reorganization of the Spanish Red Cross. In 1929, the city of Barcelona erected a statue of her in a nurse's uniform in honour of her Red Cross work and since the the statue has been destroyed.
#9: Queen Elena of Italy – (nèe Elena of Montenegro)
— She was described as shy and reserved but also rather stubborn. Very attached to traditions, with a sensitive soul and a lively and curious mind, she was endowed with a strong love for nature: her favourite flower was the Cyclamen. She was a very tall woman of 180 cm (5'11). As Queen, her commitment to numerous charitable and welfare initiatives, which assured her great sympathy and popularity, was profuse. The Queen went well beyond mere charity: her evangelical spirit led her to practice every day the most genuine and most charitable love of neighbor.
#10: Queen Marie of Romania – (nèe Princess Marie of Edinburgh), "Missy".
— She was described as very beautiful and high spirited. As a young girl, Marie was very close with her sisters, but mostly her sister Victoria Melita, they played many games with their father and Marie's mother, the Duchess of Edinburgh neglected Marie and her sisters' education, considering them not very bright or gifted. But in the fields of painting and drawing, Marie and her sisters had inherited her grandmother, Queen Victoria's talent. On October 11th, 1914, Marie and her husband Ferdinand were acclaimed as king and Queen in the Chamber of Deputies. Princess Anne Marie Callimachi, a close friend of Marie, wrote that "as Crown Princess, she had been popular; as Queen, she was more loved". Marie maintained a certain influence on her husband and the entire court, leading historian A. L. Easterman to write that "it was not Ferdinand, but Marie who ruled in Romania".
#answered ask#queen alexandra#alexandra of denmark#anne boleyn#queen marie sophie of the two sicilies#duchess marie sophie in bavaria#marie antoinette#queen lovisa of denmark#lovisa of sweden#queen alexandrine of denmark#alexandrine of mecklenburg-schwerin#queen margherita of italy#margherita of savoy#queen victoria eugenie of spain#princess victoria eugenie of battenberg#queen elena of italy#elena of montenegro#queen marie of romania#princess marie of edinburgh#informational
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My soverain lord and fader, I recomande me to yowr good and gracieux lordship as humbly as I can, desiring to heere as good tydyngges of you and of your hye estat as ever did leige man of his soverain lord. And, sir, I trust to God that ye shal have now a companie comyng with my brother of Bedford that ye shal like wel in good feith as hit is do me wite, neverthelatter, my brother's mainy [retinue] have I seyn, which is right a tal meyny [retinue]. And so schal ye se of thaym that be of your other captaines leding, of which I sende you al the names in a rolle be the berer of this. Also so, sir, blessid be God, of the good and gracieux tydingges that ye have liked to send me word of be Herford your messager which were the gladdist that ever I mygt heve next your welfare, be my trouth, and, sir, with Godde's grace I shal sende all thise ladies as ye have commandid me, in al hast, beseching you of your lordship that I mygt wite how that ye wolde that my cosine of York [Joan Holland, dowager Duchess of York] shuld reule her, whether she shuld be barbid [dressed as a widow] or not as I have wreten to you, my soverain lord afore this time. And, sir, as touching Tiptot he shal be delivered in al hast, for ther lakkith no thing but shipping, which, with Goddes grace, shall be so ordeined for that he shal not tary. Also, sir, blessid be God, your gret ship the Grace Dieu is even as redy and is the fairest that ever man saugh, I trowe in good feith. And this same day therle of Devonshir my cosin maad his moustre [muster] in her and al other have her [there] moustre [mustered (?)] the same tyme that shall go to ye see [sea]. And, sir, I trowe ye have on [one] comyng toward you as glad as any man can be as fer as he shewith, that is the King of Scotts, for he thanketh God that he shal mow shewe be experience thentente of his good will be the suffrance of your good lordship. My soverain lord, more can I not write to your hynesse at this tyme, but yt ever I beseche you of your good and gracieux lordship as be my trouth my witting [knowingly] willingly I shal never deserve the contrary, that woot God, to whom I pray, to send yow al yt yowr hert desireth to his plaisance. Writen in your town of Hampton the xiiij day of May. Your trewe and humble liege man and sone H. G. [Henricus Gwalliae, or for Henry Prince de Galle.]
Letter written by Henry, Prince of Wales to his father, Henry IV, 14 May 1411(?) From: W. J. Hardy, The Handwriting of the Kings and Queens of England, The Religious Tract Society, 1893.
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My media this week (26 Feb-4 Mar 2023)
📚 STUFF I READ 📚
😊👂Death Around the Bend (Lady Hardcastle Mysteries #3) (T.E. Kinsey, author; Elizabeth Knowelden, narrator) - more fun with Emily & Flo, racing cars and solving murders in 1909
🥰👂Cabin Pressure: The Complete Series 2 (Gdańsk to Limerick) (John Finnemore, author; Stephanie Cole/Roger Allam/Benedict Cumberbatch/John Finnemore, cast) - back at it again with MJN Air & Co
😊👂A Picture of Murder (Lady Hardcastle Mysteries #4) (T.E. Kinsey, author; Elizabeth Knowelden, narrator) - more fun with Emily & Flo, making/watching films and solving murders in 1909
🥰Bewitched (BootsnBlossoms, Kryptaria) - 51K, 00Q - Q's ordered to take a holiday with Bond as bodyguard & elects to go to his sister's farm in Wales. But Q's real name is Adam Stephens, his sister is Tabitha, his mother is Samantha & his grandmother is Endora, so there's a lot he's trying NOT to have to explain to James while also enjoying this holiday fling. Fluffy & charming af!
💖💖 +108K of shorter fic so shout out to these I really loved 💖💖
if you could redirect my day (lady_ragnell) - Ted Lasso: Keeley/Roy/Jamie, 11K - Jamie ends up staying with Roy for a few weeks in Marbella and Roy…doesn't hate it
Four Days on a Farm in Kansas (FabulaRasa) - DCU: SuperBat, 28K - getting together ->bumps in the road->finally figuring it all out (i.e. bruce pulls his head out of his ass)
i can actually see it (i'm glad that you stayed) (BelmotteTower) - Ted Lasso: Keeley/Roy/Jamie, 7K - pt 4 of thats what i want series aka 'How to proactively date in public with London's favourite polyamourous triad.'
Sweet Sugar (this_wayward_life) - MCU: Stucky, 8K - no powers, age difference AU with subby sugar daddy Bucky - reread 'cause this is a fave, love the characterizations in this one
📺 STUFF I WATCHED 📺
All Creatures Great and Small - s3, e1-7
Poker Face - s1, e8
Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Artificial Intelligence
Maine Cabin Masters - s7, e1-8
🎧 PODCASTS 🎧
You Must Remember This - 1987: Fatal Attraction and Dirty Dancing (Erotic 80s Part 10)
You're Dead To Me - The Indus Civilisation
Lost Women of Science - A Complicated Woman: Leona Zacharias
The Atlas Obscura Podcast - Nellie Mae Rowe’s Playhouse
Big Gay Fiction Podcast - A Trip to "Liar City" with Allie Therin
⭐Vibe Check - Dupe Fiasco
ICYMI Plus - Selena Gomez Loves Logging Off
Switched on Pop - Chartbreakers: Jersey Club, Complicated Country, and 50s Crooners
99% Invisible #527 - RoboUmp
The Atlas Obscura Podcast - The Hampton House
The Atlas Obscura Podcast - The Discovery Tree
⭐Into It - Sex, 'Cocaine Bear,' and 'You'
The Atlas Obscura Podcast - The A. Everett Austin Facade House
⭐Welcome to Night Vale #223 - Big Rico's Pizza Band
Ologies with Alie Ward - Field Trip: An Airport Full of Neuroscientists
🎶 MUSIC 🎶
Rebel Girls: '90s Visionaries
My Mix #1 {Journey, Toto, Heart, Bon Jovi, Ozzy}
Polyphia
Joan Jett
Finally Enough Love: 50 Number Ones [Madonna]
On The Prowl [Steel Panther]
#sunday reading recap#bookgeekgrrl's reading habits#bookgeekgrrl's soundtracks#lady hardcastle mysteries series#cabin pressure#fanfic ftw#all creatures great and small#poker face is absolutely great#maine cabin masters#<- suprisingly soothing#seriously vibe check will transform your wednesday mornings!#vibe check podcast#welcome to night vale#into it podcast#you're dead to me podcast#atlas obscura podcast#switched on pop podcast#99% invisible podcast#ologies podcast#lost women of science podcast#icymi podcast#big gay fiction podcast#you must remember this podcast#joan jett#madonna#steel panther#polyphia#'90s music
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*waves* this is my writing playlist in case anybody is interested in the most random tracks known to man.
Also, the post on Hywel ab Owain Gwynedd (featuring v good shit about Arthurian myth and the Mabinogion) will be up later tonight / early Friday morning once I translate my Welsh texts!!! Had to do some stuff yesterday and just have a tumblr detox. 🤷🏻♀️
#it me#bisexual disaster™️#sarah rambles#welsh myth#the mabinogion#arthurian legend#welsh mythology#arthuriana#mabinogion#hywel ab owain gwynedd#also doing a post on joan lady of wales but waiting for SOURCES#Spotify
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considering John's experiences and the fact that he eventually rebelled against his father along with his siblings, what was his relationship like with his kids?
I've always wondered this after learning that Henry III regarded his father's grave with affection...
well unfortunately john died when the majority of his children were pretty young, so we don’t really have much to compare him to his father with.
we can compare that to john’s own experiences with his father, as john was the youngest of henry’s children, and considerably younger than his brothers. he would have been too young to have substantially been involved in the family drama unfolding around him, and he was considerably removed from his family by way of proximity, regardless. in spite of that, john was probably henry’s favourite son… which some historians have speculated arose from his youth making him more malleable, and less of a threat in ways his older, landed brothers were. i think much of henry ii’s problems with his children stemmed from the impossible challenge of managing a successful succession plan (including arranging marriages) within a feudal system that couldn’t accommodate his empire (the irony and the tragedy is that john’s birth is what, in certain respects, created the challenge: “providing for his youngest son proved to be a constant headache for henry” (church)). indeed, like you say, john would ultimately go the same way as his brothers and would ultimately revolt against his father.
the issue of inheritance was not really a factor for john with his children. by contrast, his relationship with his children seems more stable. according to danna messer: “john is known for having been a loving father”. he certainly seems to have been close with his bastard daughter joan/siwan — who was possibly his eldest child: “it would have been somewhat out of character for him not to have met with his daughter at least once before her [marriage] to offer fatherly love and support, and to waylay her concerns and apprehensions pertaining to such a major life change. [john] may have personally escorted her to england” (messer). they had a very collaborative political relationship, even in spite of the actions of joan’s husband, llywelyn. i think it’s significant that joan was a female bastard child — one he facilitated an incredibly advantageous marriage for, which he arguably did not need to do, but nevertheless not an active threat in the way male, legitimate children would be. it does make their relationship interesting. the fact that we can identify visitations between king and daughter, and grandchildren, as well as giftgiving and rewards between them, can and has been used to construct an idea of john as an attentive and co-operative father to a child old enough to have had a tangible relationship with him, albeit joan’s feelings wrt his treatment of welsh hostages, the de braoses, or the burning of bangor are unknowable.
and, yes, his heir seems to have remembered him fondly: “the evidence shows that he looked upon his father’s resting place with great affection. he sank vast sums of money into worcester”. however, henry iii was nine when his father died, so it’s unlikely they had much of a relationship before john’s death. john would have been too itinerant, and the practicalities of day-to-day life for king and royal heir would not have facilitated a close relationship. i have always thought it interesting that isabella did not stay in england to act as regent to her son, which makes me speculate that there could not have been too intimately close a familial connection. on the other hand, would it be unreasonable to point to henry iii’s relationship with his half sister, joan/siwan of wales, as indicative of familial closeness linking the two together in the memory of their father?
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Monday 6th February 2023
I may not be allowed to report this and I could be jailed for espionage if anyone passes this intel on, but there was high drama this morning as we watched from our window L02 (HMAS Canberra, helicopter through deck carrier), a frigate and a destroyer quietly slip out to the open seas. Now I have never seen L02 out of its little berth in Sydney harbour! All the years we have passed through there, it's always been at home. Now, there she is, trotting off to pastures new with 2 of her mates leaving the remainder of the Australian navy (2 ships, L01 and another) in dock. So is there something going on that we should be aware of?
We took the 173x to the City. Our mission was to buy tickets for DG at the SOH. For those in the know this is Don Giovanni at the Sydney Opera House. We have a gap in the diary for Thursday night and felt an urge for a bit of culture. Tickets were fast running out but we managed a couple for the Joan Sutherland theatre, circle, row E. I checked with the very patient lady behind the plate glass that she would assure us that we would not be conveniently hidden behind a pillar or that there wouldn't be a woman, Aussie or otherwise, immediately in front of us with a huge great hat on. She said hats are not allowed! So having parted with thousands of pounds, we had our tickets. We sensibly decided to opt out of the delicious canape and Pimm that we were treated to last time, thus saving 56 bucks.
Big disruption on SOH main steps! There's no access because they are closed for a Disney film set. No-one actually knows anything, but the rumour is that Ryan Gosling is filming there and it appeared to involve a crashed aeroplane on the steps. Security was tight and we were not allowed too close. I did enquire if any extras were needed but my offer was brusquely declined.
Another visit to the Art Gallery of New South Wales was quite amusing. Of course a flat white was involved first. It's important to be in the right frame of mind before turning ones attention to works of modern art. A few stiff brandies might help as well. So there on the wall is displayed what looks like the entire output of year two from an unknown primary school. I did say to the attendant that I hoped they didn't pay too much for it. A look of understanding was returned although not an official view.
Well it was a useful kind of day. We didn't manage to find the office of Malaysia Airlines because it has now closed and personnel are working from home. Neither could we find the Avis office, presumably for the same reason. However, we shall be back in the City tomorrow for an exciting excursion which we will document tomorrow if it really is exciting and take another pop at Avis.
173x bus home via our previous digs to pick up a rogue suitcase.
Curried rubbery chicken washed down by Aussie sauv. (Not as good as NZ)
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The problem is that there's an extreme paucity of primary sources on Katherine, which makes it difficult to manage a full length biography. Alison Weir's biography got quite a lot of negative reviews on the basis there was really not enough information on Katherine for a biography and she had to do a lot of guessing.
Katherine's father and first husband were both of very minor aristocratic status and not particularly wealthy or prominent. So, they were not mentioned by contemporary chroniclers and few of their families' letters or charters have been preserved.
A lack of primary sources is pretty typical for medieval mistresses. Little is also known of Rosamund de Clifford, Ida de Tosny, Biette de Cassinel, Alice Perrers, Odette de Champdivers, or Jane Shore and a number of famous medieval bastards, such as Geoffrey, Archbishop of York, and Joan, Lady of Wales, were born to women about whom we know nothing but their given names. Geoffrey's mother is identified is as a woman named "Ykenai" and Joan's mother is only named as "Clemence".
Why are there so few non-fiction books on Katherine Swynford? The most recent bio I know of is an Alison Weir book from like 10+ years ago. How are medieval historians not all over that? She should be as oversaturated as Anne Boleyn
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the granddaughters of henry ii and eleanor of aquitaine
#historyedit#history#eleanor of aquitaine#isabella of england#joan lady of wales#joan of england#matilda of saxony#matilda of england#eleanor of england#eleanor of castile#berengaria of castile#urraca of castile#blanche of castile#eleanor fair maid of brittany#malafda of castile#12th century#13th century#english history#british history#scottish history#spanish history#welsh history#our edits#by julia#german history#sicilian history#italian history#portuguese history
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Royal Women + lovers
Bertha, Princess of France, Daughter of Charlemagne + (St.) Angilbert // Urraca, Queen of Leon + Count Pedro Gonzalez de Lara // Teresa, Countess/Queen of Portugal + Count Fernando Perez de Traba // Isabella of France, Queen of England + Roger Mortimer, Earl of March // Joan of England, Lady of Wales + William de Braose // Catherine de Valois, Queen of England + Owen Tudor
#royal women#medieval women#royal lovers#bertha of france#charlemagne#angilbert#urraca of leon#pedro de lara#teresa of portugal#teresa of leon#isabella of france#roger mortimer#joan of england#lady of wales#catherine de valois#owen tudor#my gifs#medieval spain#medieval portugal#carolingian empire#medieval england#robin hood#vikings#kingdom of heaven#world without end#el final del camino#la princess de montpensier
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