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lxmelle · 1 month
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The KFC breakup was about friendship more than ideology.
The question posited by Geto : Yes it was about identity. Yes it was about choice. Yes it was jarring.
It was also an expression of hurt and pain. It was (immature -ahem, they were kids) retaliation - that’s why Geto saw it as an argument. “They fought” and “that was it”. He regretted it, and that’s why he also told his family “not to argue amongst themselves.” Geto packed in the message in there: You left me figuratively; and I’ll leave you. You decided for me; I’ll decide for you. But you can choose based on what you want; I’ve chosen my path anyway.
Let me elaborate. But first: Let’s get a few things out of the way.
Gojo did not have an issue with killing humans.
He went after Toji. For what purpose? Revenge? He said he wasn’t angry. Let’s look at his mindset after near death or to any threat (like after the parade with Miguel’s cursed tool that interfered with his CT). Auto limitless. He eliminated all potential weapons that could harm him. Gojo did not like it. He wanted to eliminate threats. With Toji? He possibly wanted to try and see if he was more powerful than what felled him. So he killed this person who was no longer an active threat. Then he sincerely did not know whether or not to kill the clapping peeps. Why? Why even think about it? Geto didn’t think about it.
Why indeed?
He didn’t have an issue. Even after internalising what Geto said, he didn’t actually believe it, because he simply didn’t feel it.
Also, why spare Geto? After Toji and the spear, all that was left to his awareness at that time, that could hurt him, was Geto. He couldn’t kill him. Yes , we know it was because he realised he loved him. Geto’s life was precious. This was the message Geto wanted him to realise after all - life was precious. Not only his. With this experience, Gojo finally could feel what it meant.
So let’s go to the KFC breakup and their exchange.
Dissect it:
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It’s not about your parents. You told me it was pointless to kill non-sorcerers.
Geto interjects: But there is meaning; there is also purpose.
Gojo doesn’t want to know. Despite there possibly being meaning and purpose, he continued:
That’s impossible! There is no point in attempting the impossible.
He is asking Geto: Why are you attempting something impossible for you? Doing something you can’t do is pointless, at best! (Why did you go against what you told me not to do, even if you say there is meaning, purpose, and it is for justice, you shouldn’t attempt it).
In the original, the language is more condescending/belittling and implies that Geto’s chipping away at it would be inefficient 「できもしねぇことをセコセコやんのを意味ねぇっつーんだよ!!」
And Geto replied with: how arrogant.
Why?
Because: paraphrasing, “Are you determining for me what is impossible, when you can do it? Is it only because I’m not as strong as you, so you’re considering what’s important to me, as pointless?”
Also, of all the things he could’ve talked about, Gojo was focused on Strength. Viewing Geto in that black & white way. It was impossible for Geto, he implied. It reflected his lack of belief in his friend and respect of their shared bond.
Yes, Geto acted on his own. Gojo had a right to be angry. And so did Geto, who felt left behind by Gojo who prioritised training at the expense of other things like friendships - which were probably not seen as something he ever needed to treasure or be insecure about. Unlike Geto. Who knew loss all too well and felt it to his core. They were made very differently. I want to emphasise: Neither is better or worse.
Over this particular exchange, Geto was hurt and the conversation was pretty much over. Geto was always going to attempt this path despite not being the strongest. That wasn’t the point. He had already vehemently dedicated himself to this one path he cornered himself into.
The Crux of it was that: the friendship wasn’t mutual and Geto felt the disrespect and condescension in Gojo’s remark.
Geto had always focused on Gojo’s Humanity. Even if he saw that Gojo lacked meaning and purpose (parts that make us human; and btw Nanami was accurate in knowing Gojo was jujutsu crazy), he believed in Gojo’s capacity for humanity and love. He respected his friend and their shared bond. He recognised Gojo’s potential and wanted him to remain on the right path, as long as it was good for him.
So the breakup was about friendship.
It was about, believing in the other, not based on what one can or can’t do.
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Paraphrasing for clarity: “who are you to tell me what I can/can’t do, if you yourself can do it?”
I never stopped believing in you. Did our friendship mean nothing to you?
If there was meaning and purpose, Gojo didn’t want to know about it at all. Yet he knew enough for him to say it was pointless for Geto to attempt it. He knew nothing of Geto’s suffering and how he valued his fellow sorcerers. He was implying, Geto’s ideals and sacrifice were worthless because he wasn’t strong.
Because he, the strongest Gojo Satoru, deemed so. The strong. Keeping. The weak. In check.
But Geto doesn’t subscribe to this. It hit a nerve. He goes by the philosophy of the weak keeping the strong in check; about not abusing one’s power. 「弱きを助け強きを挫く」 ⬅️ This is a known proverb Geto used to advise Gojo in HI when they were in the classroom (anime would be the basketball courts?). And Gojo responds by saying that attaching meaning was for the weak.
But. After what Geto did, he realised it was hypocritical. He was strong. But also comparatively weak. The non-sorcerers were “strong” with the power to hurt the minority / “weak” / the sorcerers. In this context: He knew more than anyone that his crimes were an abuse of power. Hence his self-imposed death sentence to Gojo’s hand. The draft shows him saying: it wouldn’t be bad to die by your hand. In jjk 0 he collapsed to the floor immediately - conceding completely. Even saying “you’re late Satoru”.
Knowing his hypocrisy, that’s why he chose to live as he did - denying himself any pleasures of humankind by only opting for things made by sorcerers where possible, but never imposing this on his family. He didn’t feel he deserved it. He would just be a tool for the sake of this ideal. But. Back to Gojo and Geto.
What Geto saw, that Gojo didn’t, was...
The value of the person vs absolute strength of the person. Geto cared about people and saw Gojo didn’t naturally do that. So he asked him to think - who was Gojo Satoru? The Gojo who just thought about strength, or the Gojo who could care about someone beyond it?
See, Geto has never done that; he always encouraged Gojo. If he could do it, it was worth Gojo trying. Like having humanity. Caring for Riko. Protecting the weak. Having principles about meaning. Being respectful to elders. That was also why Geto felt they “fought” because for the first time, he imposed onto Gojo: I can do it, but you shouldn’t. He was knowingly hypocritical again. And this was also why he did not think Gojo would have any trust left for him after they “fought”.
Killing non-sorcerers aside (we know Gojo didn’t have much of an issue with it at this point in time), Gojo did not believe in Geto. Did not seem to respect Geto.
That’s what made Geto retaliate.
He thought there was weight in their friendship even if the power gap had increased exponentially. Even if he was going to walk down another path. He didn’t know if Gojo was going to just hunt him down or talk - that’s why he was “testing his luck”. Gojo the sorcerer could have just come to exterminate him. Gojo the friend could stop to talk. I think the latter happened but it was too clumsy between them both. Geto was childish himself, as Shoko said. But he was noble enough to not take Gojo with him.
Nevertheless...
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He turned away.
As if to say: Don’t even follow me. We are done talking. I’ve heard what you had to say; you don’t see me as someone equal to you. It wasn’t mutual. I’ve decided how to live my life. I know I’ve done wrong, so kill me if you want, I know there would be meaning to it.
We will part ways on this bad note. It’s clear you’ll only respect me if I’m “you” since you only respect yourself. He shoved him roughly into the righteous path instead of his usual gentle way. He never intended on having Gojo follow him anyway. He didn’t like the idea of others being tools - but just himself - he was okay being one. We know Geto didn’t hold too much value to himself.
Gojo was within his absolute right to be beyond upset. Left behind. This came out of nowhere. Geto going back on his own words. He belatedly probably realised what he really wanted to say was, why did you act all on your own, especially going against all that you preached to me? I’m strong, why couldn’t I be strong for you, with you?
And: Why was I the last to know...? I thought you needed me just as much as I needed you.
Geto… knew what he did was wrong. He was under no illusions but chose to walk that path and buried himself in the denial, so he could live pursuing something he could accept. For the sake of… something he felt needed his protection. He would not use Gojo Satoru as his weapon, even if Gojo Satoru chose so himself.
Sigh. My heart hurts.
You and Gojo Satoru both. Idiots. Why did you let yourself become tools?!?!?!
Sigh. One loved by clinging on. The other loved by letting go.
Angst. Aah, angst.
I feel like I’ve somewhat ruined my wip fic by writing posts like these, but nevermind, lol. It wasn’t a given that they’d be read anyway 😳
Take whatever Ive written with a pinch of salt. It’s just my take. I don’t think Geto was jealous of Gojo. I think they were both extremely hurt and both felt left behind. Both carried regrets and treasured the memory of the other, wanted to protect the other (and others like them), in their own ways. It was not enough to be anything (strong / idealistic) if they were alone. I think their reunion made it clear that they needed each other to be happy. I might be completely humbled by the release of the GIGA booklet on Gojo, but we shall see... if anything further on this KFC scene is revealed.
I probably have talked too much on this topic lol.
Thanks for reading if you made it this far 🫶
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gabriella0807 · 1 month
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#jjk 78
#jjk 266 spoiler without context
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galaxynajma · 1 year
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I see no differences
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It’s the same picture
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lulla-bee · 2 years
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Our POV:
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Yaga's POV:
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catgumi · 4 months
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psychewritesbs · 1 year
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Details I picked up on because of the jjk s2 anime: Gojo saves Megumi
I feel like this one is 300% obvious lol. I just feel like it's a nice detail that Gojo only goes to look for Megumi after Gojo realizes he couldn't "save" Geto, thus "saving" Megumi instead.
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Given the current state in the manga and Geto and Megumi's parallels, the question is, is Megumi prepared to be saved?
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leeahl · 1 year
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tiktok so angsty for shoko's dramatic “i was there, wasn't i?” when she left gojo to deal with geto in shinjuku alone. she refused to even stall geto for a bit.
like dam, honey, i can love your vibes, but you definitely go down when you try to be such victim 😭✋
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cursedmemerson · 2 years
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I feel like the jjk manga readers don't talk about this scene enough because it gets overshadowed by the geto/gojo confrontation scene. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love that scene but this coming from Satoru has so much meaning.
Gojo from the very beginning has always been arrogant about how strong he is. He has always been strong: "he alone is the honored one" meaning the only one blessed with the power of infinity and the wherewithal to control it. At the beginning of the hidden inventory arc, we see that Satoru thinks righteousness is "gross" or in other words, righteousness doesn't necessarily influence his reasons for being a jujutsu sorcerer. He focused more on becoming even stronger, hence his superiority over who he deemed "weak".
This panel is an outright admission that even being the strongest isn't enough to save someone if they don't want to be saved. This is a turning point for Gojo's motivation in being a Jujutsu Sorcerer and influenced his reasons for becoming a teacher in the first place. Because he was unable to save Suguru, unable to change the mind of someone who was once so principled on the meaning behind human existence, the mind that was corrupted by exposure to the darkest parts of the jujutsu world; he wanted to change the world that corrupted him.
Here he recognizes that despite his power, despite being the strongest, he can't do it alone. He needs powerful allies to change the current state of the jujutsu world (hence his reason for being a teacher) so he doesn't suffer from any more loss.
But despite this determination to stop any further losses, he can never get the one person who meant more to him than anyone else back and that realization is visible on his face
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murasakikagekitsune · 2 years
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Original Cursed Technique: 影激減/Kage no Geki (trans. Shadow Puppet Theatre)
Asano-sama has an ability that's odd, for lack of a better word, given His nature as a River Kitsune. He can wield the light and shadows around Him in order to create puppets to do things for Him. They are controlled by gestures that mimic the action He wants to perform. You could argue that this is just run-of-the-mill telekinesis, and you'd be right, to a point, but drawing power from the light and shadows in the environment (or rather, the energy within them) is the key difference.
To me, it seems like He's always been to do this - create temporary vessels for the dead - and it feels separate to the fact He is a River Kitsune because most of Their powers are hydrokinetic. I know that zenko may have powers over everything, but Asano-sama seems like the kind of Being to tie His sense of self to His local geography, so He won't use powers that take Him too far from His place or sense of origin - that would be a river. Specifically, Asano-sama comes from the Otagawa, or the Ota River - that feeds into why He uses Kage no Geki more now, rather than His childhood; He has to, because of His catastrophic vision loss in 1945. This also is the reason Kage no Geki we (meaning Asano-sama and myself) think of it a Cursed Technique instead of a superpower or Quirk; there are negative emotions hidden in the shadows and in the fragments of people's souls. This, if you consider the Shinto view of animism, also applies to objects - He can befriend the object if it's more than 100 years old or pass on the soul of a puppet to an object so it becomes their vessel.
While, in truth, Kage no Geki was always a personal Cursed Technique, it was only recently classified as such because of it its rise in usage - the nuclear fallout of Hiroshima gave Him plenty of shadows to befriend.
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gojuo · 1 year
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OH MMY FUUJCKIINNGGG GODDDD
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totheslaydogs · 1 year
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it’s so doppover
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lxmelle · 4 months
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KFC breakup.
I’m seeing it from a slightly different perspective which is still kind of aligned with what my thoughts were over what Geto meant when he posed the question:
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Are you Gojo Satoru therefore the Strongest? Or are you the Strongest therefore you’re Gojo Satoru?
Was this hinting at how he wanted Gojo to think about who he is, because he cannot be by his side anymore following his choice. Leaving him with this question.
He wished to push him away. Never asked him to leave with him despite needing strength to realise it. Was he intending for Gojo to remain as the Human Satoru, who was the Strongest?
Since he said, “if I were you, this foolish dream would not be impossible”. So he took on the role of what Gojo could’ve done, to do it to the best of his ability, knowing he probably wouldn’t be as strong, but was committed to anyway.
And tried to leave Satoru as the one who could retain humanity? (And he did, trying to realise Geto’s own dreams because Geto did model humanity for Gojo and he made it his own set of morals and philosophy - which he did fulfil as best as he could).
More context:
Spoiler for chapter 261:
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I’ll loosely translate:
Yuta says don’t become a monster all on your own, please. Gojo turns much like Geto did in chapter 78.
He then recollects his memory of Geto when Yuta expressed this concern for him, he thought to himself that it was an impossibility to not become a monster on his own. He was left behind then (when Geto left) and then in the white panel, that he has to catch up to him.
I think there is a parallel with how he has decided to proceed with the plan to kill mercilessly. To opt for moral greyness for the sake of his students and their future. Even if it is a future without him.
This is paralleled with what Geto was trying to do. Protect Gojo. Keep him humane. Since, he opted to do what Yuki thought was crazy. Since, he opted to do what he told Gojo not to do at the hideout in retaliation for Riko’s death.
Chasing after Geto could possibly mean he wished to repent for not killing him then and there, but I think it’s more about what Yuta said and the futility of it, with the burden he now bore to fight Sukuna and protect by weatherproofing the future. He had made up his mind like Geto did. Even if he isn’t alive to see it. To try his best for an impossible dream.
He seemed to understand and think about Geto’s motives then, and wished to wield his strength as The Strongest with a solid purpose this time. He would do it to protect those he cared about. He would chase the same dream as Geto. To catch up to him and not be left alone, for this (meaning/purpose) was all he had of his best friend lover all along.
That’s my interpretation anyway. Thoughts?
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vulpiximisa · 2 years
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naezono au with makoto as accidentally super powerful sorcerer and sayaka as his eldritch horror spirit of a girlfriend
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iwadori · 1 year
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It's a hidden secret. Many don't know it, I've noticed. And you're very welcome. Also, fandom died and interaction went 👎 so that's where everyone went - genius anon
yes the fandom did indeed died, I died with it icl. but stay tuned empress will return on a Tumblr blog near you... with a new url and a new fandom.
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pixiesnooze · 1 year
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everyone start compiling your dad gojo fanfics right now
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nanaminokanojo · 1 year
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THAWING ICE QUEEN | CHAPTER INDEX (part 1-89 completed)
–one night of fooling around with the annoying campus king gojo satoru (he thinks so), turns into...well, something else more long term
CHARACTERS: gojo satoru x you | geto suguru | jjk characters
GENRE: college au | eventual smut | smau | smau + prose | everything in between | ons | fubus to lovers | aged-up characters | idk where this is going
⚠️ TW/CW: strong/mature language | 🔞 | mentions of alcohol, smoking, etc. | this will most likely have narrations | god-awful pet names | will add more if something arises
MASTERLIST
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part 1
part 2
part 3
part 4
part 5
part 6
part 7
part 8
part 9
part 10
part 11
part 12 (with prose)
part 13
part 14
bonus chapter (full prose)
part 15
part 16
part 17
part 18
part 19
part 20
part 21
part 22 (with prose)
part 23
part 24
part 25
part 26
part 27
part 28
part 29
part 30 (with prose)
part 31
part 32
part 33
part 34
part 35
part 36
part 37
part 38
part 39
part 40
part 41
part 42
part 43
part 44
part 45
part 46
part 47
part 48
part 49
part 50
part 51
part 52 (with prose)
part 53
part 54
part 55
part 56
part 57
part 58
part 59
part 60
part 61
part 62
part 63
part 64
part 65
part 66
bonus chapter #2 (full prose)
part 67
part 68
part 69
part 70
part 71
part 72
part 73
part 74
part 75
part 76
part 77
part 78
part 79
part 80 (with prose)
part 81
part 82
part 83
part 84
part 85
part 86
part 87
part 88 (with prose)
part 89
Continue to part 90 onwards here.
A/N: The tag list for this story is still open if anyone's interested. Just hit me up! :)
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