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bardsansa · 1 year ago
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the six wives of maegor the cruel
visenya and rhaenys, alyssa velaryon
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goodqueenaly · 17 days ago
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Not me remembering this -
Robb bristled at that. "The Westerlings are better blood than the Freys. They're an ancient line, descended from the First Men. The Kings of the Rock sometimes wed Westerlings before the Conquest, and there was another Jeyne Westerling who was queen to King Maegor three hundred years ago."
- and thinking about Lyanna potentially using a similar argument to justify (internally or externally, say to someone like Benjen) her would-be marriage to Rhaegar, perhaps ahead of her "abduction". Robb's argument about the historical Jeyne Westerling's royal Targaryen marriage as adding to the prestige of his Jeyne Westerling was far from ideal. After all, Maegor's triple marriage to the "Black Brides", Jeyne included, was a great scandal in his, Maegor's, own time (to say nothing of Jeyne's infamous death in childbirth delivering "a legless and armless creature possessed of both male and female genitalia"); moreover, Maegor's only attraction (if the word can even be used) to Jeyne was in her proven fertility (though Jeyne's status as the widow of a man Maegor and his supporters had killed in battle may have added to her appeal in the eyes of the sadistic king). Anyone with this knowledge of Westerosi history, therefore, might have raised an eyebrow at Robb trying to use the historical Jeyne Westerling to bolster his new wife's queenly credentials - but Robb, desperate to claim whatever merit he could for Jeyne to support a marriage he very well knew had been a costly political error, was willing to use even this shaky argument if it could equate his Jeyne with her queenly indirect ancestress.
Similarly, Lyanna may have convinced herself that she could marry Rhaegar by using somehat or even quite weak historical Targaryen precedents. If Lyanna wanted Rhaegar to marry her - and I think she did, so that she could escape marriage to Robert - perhaps she believed she could enter into such a marriage because the Targaryens had in the past taken multiple wives. Of course, such an argument, if Lyanna had made it, would have been at best imperfect: according to Yandel, while "[s]ome of the sorcerer princes [of Valyria] also took more than one wife when it pleased them", this practice "was less common than incestuous marriage". Again, the example of Maegor would have been as unhappy a reminder to Lyanna as it might have been to Robb: the Black Brides generally were as poor an argument in support of Targaryen polygamy as Jeyne Westerling specifically was in support of her family's royal worthiness. Yet just as Robb was eager to find some grounds on which to defend Jeyne as a worthy bride for him in what was clearly a fraught political situation, so Lyanna may have been eager to defend her desire to marry Rhaegar in a situation she may well have believed would cause substantial political uproar - defying not just her father and erstwhile fiancé, but the Lord of Winterfell and the Lord of Storm's End.
In other words, it's not just Arya and Sansa who resemble Lyanna, something something Stark generational paralels.
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green-watcher · 3 months ago
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Maegor the Cruel had 6 wives total, largely due to his inability to produce an heir. They were Ceryse Hightower, Alys Harroway, Tyanna of the Tower, Elinor Costayne, Jeyne Westerling, and his niece Rhaena Targaryen. His first wife was Ceryse Hightower, whom he married in 25 AC, after the conquest.
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hvrricqneeee · 3 months ago
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Jeyne Westerling (wife of Maegor I aka Maegor The Cruel) died in child birth at the age of 20, with her labour beginning three months early, giving birth to a stillborn child, monstrous, lacking arms and legs but possessing both male and female genitalia. Jeyne herself died soon after.
Alyssa Velaryon (mother of King Jaehaerys and Queen Alysanne) remarried to Rogar Baratheon and gave him a son, Boremund, and never fully recovered from the birth. Three years later, 47 year old Alyssa became pregnant and went into labour early, and because of this was on the brink of death. Rogar Baratheon order the maester to save the child, killing Alyssa.
Daella Targaryen (Rhaenyra’s maternal grandmother) dies giving birth to her daughter and only child: Aemma Arryn
Alyssa Targaryen died due to never fully recovering from giving birth to a son because she wanted to give her husband “an army of sons”.
Gael Targaryen (Rhaenyra’s great aunt), at the age of 19 was seduced and impregnable free d by a travelling singer. Gael gave birth to a stillborn son, and overwhelmed with grief, she walked into the black water bay and drowned.
Aemma Arryn has multiple miscarriages (at least five) and dies because she is cut open because Viserys wanted a son that badly, only for that son to die mere hours later.
Rhaenyra Targaryen wasn’t just scared of childbirth and pregnancy because of her mother, but because of all of these women.
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foxyanon · 5 months ago
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The Seven Wives of King Maegor
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A little backstory for Rhaenerys and her family, a precursor history for my To Love A Dragon series.
Please know I am changing much to better fit with my story. I will keep it canon where I can, but I will be aging most everyone up because it’s really weird that GRRM had Maegor marrying his first wife at FUCKING THIRTEEN?! Yeah, not around here partner, he’s gonna be eighteen instead because I said so. Rhaenerys will be 16 at the start of the series (this will make sense later), however her age is mostly irrelevant to the story in the beginning (again, this will make sense later since I am changing canon dates and meshing them with the TLK timeline).
Maesters write that despite pressure from the High Septon and Grand Maester, King Aenys I Targaryen never forbade his younger brother, then Prince Maegor, from marrying numerous woman. When asked why, he simply stated that House Targaryen would continue to follow Valyrian customs as he and his kin were not of Andal, Rhoynar or First Men ancestry. This only assuaged the Faith a little, but they accepted fully when Dowager Queen Visenya proclaimed she would visit Oldtown astride Vhagar and remind them why they bent to Targaryen rule.
Maegor married his first wife, Ceryse Hightower, in mid 30AC at the Starry Sept in Oldtown. When the marriage was said to be barren, Maegor took Alys Harroway as his second wife in early 31AC. During a trip to Essos in mid 31AC, Maegor met his third wife, Tyanna and was wed to her shortly thereafter. When all three marriages failed to result in a pregnancy, Maegor was once again searching for another wife. It was during a visit to Winterfell in early 32AC where Maegor met his fourth wife, Elvira Harclay. They were wed in the Godswood at Winterfell after just three days, rumors that Maegor had bedded his new bride before the wedding spreading like wildfire. He brought the then Lady Elvira to Dragonstone, where she gave birth to a healthy girl, much to the frustration of Lady Tyanna.
After the death of King Aenys I in 42AC, Maegor ascended the throne and was crowned King of the Seven Kingdoms by his mother, Dowager Queen Visenya. Despite the late king having named his eldest son, Prince Aegon, his heir, the prince and his sister-wife, Princess Rhaena, were besieged at Crakehall by members of the Poor Fellows. After learning of Maegor’s coronation, the Poor Fellows left Crakehall and marched on King’s Landing which allowed Prince Aegon and Princess Rhaena to flee to Casterly Rock, where the princess then gave birth to the twins, Aerea and Rhaella.
Even though Dowager Queen Alyssa Velaryon wished to challenge Maegor for the throne on behalf of the young Prince Aegon, he stayed her hand and departed Casterly Rock in mid 42AC for Kings Landing with his family to swear fealty to his uncle. Prince Aegon recognized that he was just a boy of 16 and not prepared to handle to the responsibility of a kingdom. King Maegor spared his life and allowed him to live out his days on Dragonstone.
In late 43AC, King Maegor crowned his wife, Elvira Harclay, as his Queen and equal and named his 11 year old daughter, Rhaenerys, the Princess of Dragonstone. This would only be a short lived celebration, as just a few months later in early 44AC, Alys Harroway birthed a stillborn child and died in childbed. The same fate befell Ceryse Hightower in mid 45AC.
Prince Aegon died mysteriously in his bed in 46AC during a trip to King’s Landing, alongside his younger brother, Prince Viserys. Maester Desmond claimed that Maegor’s wife, Tyanna, had poisoned the princes. This claim was never confirmed and the maester executed for treason. King Maegor, in an effort to produce more heirs after the sudden deaths of his nephews, opted to marry three final woman of proven fertility. Known as the Black Brides, the former widows Elinor Costayne, Rhaena Targaryen and Jeyne Westerling were all wed to Maegor on the same day with their children from their previous marriages in attendance.
In early 48AC, Elinor Costayne delivered a stillborn child. Enraged that he only had one living heir, Maegor set himself on a warpath to determine why his wives were failing to deliver healthy children. It was only then that it was discovered that Queen Tyanna had been poisoning the other queens over the years because she was jealous she herself could not conceive. King Maegor had her executed for treason, though he accepted that Rhaenerys would be the only child he would have.
Throughout his rule, King Maegor managed to put down the Faith uprisings and rebellions that had popped up across the kingdom, effectively earning him the moniker Maegor the Cruel for his brutality. Even though he was feared, his daughter was beloved by both the lords of the realm and the people, many remarking that they were unsure if the princess was truly Maegor’s daughter though never within earshot of the King.
As he only had one child, Maegor doted on and spoiled Rhaenerys, taking her on rides on the back of Balerion before she claimed her own dragon, Abraxsas at the age of eight. She was as gifted with swordplay as he was, and on her 13th nameday, she was gifted Dark Sister by her father. She studied High Valyrian under the tutelage of her grandmother, Dowager Queen Visenya, and was as studious as her own mother, Queen Elvira. While many men within the realm wished to betroth their sons to the young princess, Maegor decided to hold a Betrothal Tourney in mid 48AC to determine who would vie for his daughter’s hand. If any of the lords could best him throughout the week long event, they would have earned the right to wed the princess. None were able to, and by late 48AC, Rhaenerys had set sail on a diplomatic mission to the Saxon Kingdoms at just 16 years of age.
In order of marriage:
-Ceryse Hightower (30AC-45AC): Anita Briem
-Alys Harroway (31AC-44AC): Katilyn Denver
-Tyanna of the Tower (31AC-48AC): Eva Green
-Elvira Harlclay (32AC-): Katie McGrath
-Elinor Costayne (46AC-): Lea Seydoux
-Rhaena Targaryen (46AC-): Jodie Comer
-Jeyne Westerling (46AC-): Caitlin Stasey
Just a little something @zaldritzosrose made for me with the face claims for the wives of Maegor to pair with my Rhaenerys stories. Many thanks my love! 😘
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coineagan · 3 months ago
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Queen Jeyne Westerling
Wife of Lord Alyn Tarbeck & then King Maegor I Targaryen.
Mother to Lord Tarbeck. Jeyne had a stillborn child with Maegor.
Reigned as Queen Consort from 47 - 48 AC.
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witchthewriter · 1 year ago
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𝐄𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐨𝐫 𝐂𝐨𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐲𝐧𝐞 𝟺𝑡𝘩 𝑜𝑓 𝑀𝑎𝑒𝑔𝑜𝑟'𝑠 𝑤𝑖𝑣𝑒𝑠
ISFJ
Ravenclaw
Lawful Good
Cancer Sun, Virgo Moon, Leo Rising
"But his third wife couldn't give him a child either. Desperate to cement his stolen throne with an heir, Maegor took three wives at once, known as the Black Brides because each were women he'd widowed in his wars. All three women grew full with child in time, but each gave birth to the same twisted monstrosities as his second wife. One need not be a maester, much less a Grand Maester, to deduce the common thread here."―Varys
A noblewoman from House Costayne, Elinor was one of the three 'Black Brides,' along with Lady Jeyne Westerling and Princess Rhaena Targaryen.
Elinor had three children with her first husband, Ser Theo Bolling. He was arrested by Maegor's Kingsguard and executed as he was accused of conspiring with Queen Alyssa to put Jaehaerys on the throne.
After seven days of mourning, Elinor was summoned to wed Maegor. The king forced Elinor's sons' at the wedding so she would play her part in the ceremony. According to one tale, Elinor scratched Maegor's back to bloody ribbons as they coupled.
Elinor's sons were sent away after she wed Maegor. Her eldest was fostered at the Eyrie, her second son to Highgarden, and her youngest was given to a wet nurse.
When Tyanna admitted to poisoning Alys Harroway during her pregnancy, Tyanna promised the same would happen to Elinor.
Tyanna had been telling the truth. Elinor had given birth to an eyeless stillborn with small wings.
Elinor was one of only two wives who survived the king. The other was Rhaena Targaryen.
After the death of Maegor, Lord Daemon Velaryon proposed that King Jaehaerys marry Queen Elinor to reconcile with Maegor's supporters, but nothing came of that proposal.
After Jaehaery's ascent, Elinor left King's Landing dressed in the robes of a penitent. She visited her two elder sons at the Eyrie and Highgarden before retiring to her father's seat at the Three Towers with her youngest son.
Later, King Jaehaerys commanded Elinor to go forth and spread his Doctrine of Exceptionalism to the peoples of the Seven Kingdoms, as well as the goodness of Jaehaerys and Alysanne, becoming one of the Seven Speakers.
Her queenly clothes became shabbier and more threadbare each day, and she eventually gave up all claims to nobility, becoming Mother Elinor at the great motherhouse in Lannisport
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yellowsocialbunny · 1 year ago
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the six wives of king maegor the cruel
Queen Ceryse Hightower was a noblewoman from House Hightower and was the daughter of Lord Manfred Hightower of Oldtown. Her maternal uncle was one of the High Septons during the reign of King Aegon I Targaryen. She eventually married Prince Maegor Targaryen, becoming his first (of many) wives.
Queen Alys Harroway was a noblewoman from House Harroway during the reign of kings Aegon I, Aenys I and Maegor I Targaryen. She was the daughter of Lord Lucas Harroway of Harrenhal and Maegor's second wife.
Queen Tyanna of the Tower, also known as Tyanna of Pentos, was a courtesan from Pentos who married King Maegor I Targaryen, becoming the third of his six wives. Tyanna was a pale beauty with black hair the color of a raven. Her name may come from the fact that Pentos is known for its square brick towers. Tyanna is said to have dabbled in sorcery and alchemy. She is remembered as a black-hearted woman who was hated and feared.
Queen Rhaena Targaryen was forcefully married to her uncle, King Maegor I Targaryen, who had usurped and killed her husband Aegon, becoming one of his Black Brides. She had lively lilac eyes and silver-gold hair. At eighteen, Rhaena was considered brave, fierce and headstrong. As an adult, she was sometimes stern and sometimes shy, frequently brooding. Rhaena had no interest in other people's children, but was possessive of her own, and of people she loved. She was furious when betrayed, and scornful of those she did not trust.
Queen Elinor Costayne was a noblewoman from House Costayne and one of the many brides of King Maegor I Targaryen. Along with Lady Jeyne Westerling and Princess Rhaena Targaryen, she was one of the so-called "Black Brides".
Queen Jeyne Westerling was a member of House Westerling. She was one of the six wives of King Maegor I Targaryen. Jeyne was tall and slender, with lustrous brown hair.
descriptions by A Wiki of Ice and Fire
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targwh0re · 8 months ago
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The Six Wives of Maegor the Cruel
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Ceryse Hightower, 25AC-45AC (Abandoned)
Divorced
My name's Catherine Of Aragon
Was married 24 years, I'm a paragon
Of royalty, my loyalty is to the Vatican
So if you try to dump me
You won't try that again
Alys Harroway, 39AC-44AC (Killed by Maegor/on his order)
Beheaded
For my promiscuity outside of wed
Lock up your husbands, lock up your sons
K Howard is here, and the fun's begun
Tyanna of the Tower, 42AC-48AC (Killed by Maegor/on his orders)
Beheaded
I'm that Boleyn girl
And I'm up next
See, I broke England from the Church
Yeah, I'm that sexy
Why did I lose my head?
Well, my sleeves may be green
But my lipstick's red!
Elinor Costayne, 47AC-48AC (Survived)
Survived
Five down, I'm the final wife
I saw him to the end of his life
I'm the survivor, Catherine Parr
I bet you wanna know how I got this far
I said, I bet you wanna know how I got this far
Jeyne Westerling, 47AC-47/48AC? (Died in childbirth)
Died
Jane Seymour, the only one he truly loved
Rude
When my son was newly born, I died
But I'm not what I seem
Or am I?
Stick around, and you'll suddenly see more
Rhaena Targaryen, 47AC-48AC (Escaped; so basically divorced his ass)
Divorced
Ich bin Anna of Cleves
Ja
When he saw my portrait he was like
Ja!
But I didn't look as good as I did in my pic
Funny how we all discuss that, but never Henry's little…
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amnevitahdrawsstuff · 5 months ago
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Queen Jeyne Westerling
Fifth wife of King Maegor.
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maegorsbignaturals · 1 month ago
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WHAT WERE CERYSE HIGHTOWER, ALYS HARROWAY, TYANNA OF THE TOWER, ELINOR COSTAYNE, JEYNE WESTERLING PERSONALITIES!? WHAT WERE THEIR PERSONALITY, I DON'T CARE ABOUT MAEGOR I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THEM! I WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM, NOT MAEGOR HE'S ALREADY KNOWN! I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HIS WIVES (Besides Rhaena, she's known but the other wives aren't!!)
I think that is one of the saddest parts of F&B, that GRRM did not focus a lot on their personalities, despite being clearly inspired by Henry VIII and his wives. Besides Rhaena and perhaps Tyanna, there is not a lot we can say for the rest of Maegor's wives, i mean, we really never get a reaction of Alys about being called a whore all across Westeros, neither we get one of Ceryse about Maegor taking a new wife. Like, yes, she was offended, her uncle demanded for Maegor to return with her and eventually she went back to oldtown, but despite that? Nothing. I mean, PERHAPS, we could say she actually stepped down his feet and actually talked back at Maegor, and she died when one of Maegor's kingsguards tried to cut her tongue. But by the way their relationship looked by that moment i doubt it, but if we take this rumour this might mean Ceryse was someone that spoke up her mind when something was not of her like. From Tyanna we can say she is tricky, ambitious, and clever, she did not doubted to throw Alys under the bus when she saw in her an obstacle to have Maegor's favor over her. But Elynor and Jeyne? They have no other personalities than being Maegor's sorry wife Number 1 and Maegor's sorry wife 2. AND IT INFURIATES ME!!! I really would like to know what was the personality of the woman who SUPPOSEDLY killed Maegor while being nineteen (and a mother, on top of that). Jeyne's aportation to the story is literally dying in childbirth so Maegor could think "Okay yeah something is fishy in here". Not only they deserved better than Maegor but they deserved better ON WRITING.
I really like the idea of Ceryse being like this highborn noble lady really well-educated. Not only she is fine in arts and embroidery and do her praying like the good niece of the high septon but she also is really interested in history of Westeros like she knows every king an queen's name from the reach before the conquest, and she is also deep dives into philosophy. Like i really like her to be a bit stoic but not in the sense of all sternity, but like, oh well, my husband left me for a girl that is younger than me and said it was thanks to my sterility, well, crying and screaming and tearing my hair apart is not going to work so i should ask for the help of my family (Her uncle, Aenys, and Alyssa), and when that not work then i should go back to my home where i have some real power still.
On Alys ooooh Alys is quite the difficult topic because i really like her being the older daughter of Lord Harroway so pretty and beautiful and perhaps a bit pampered for her own good trapped on her little fairytale dream of a prince in shinning armour at her feet, BUT lets remember F&b is not a 100% reliable source and maybe, just maybe, Alys was not so comfortable with the arrangement and being called whore on every pulpit of westeros. But yeah, i think the closest to how alys may have been is the first one, perhaps a bit pampered but cheerful, naive at some extent because she never thought -nor her family at there- that she would be queen of westeros at some point. Perhaps all the deal with Maegor was a chance of once in a life time she and her family had and well, you really tought she was going to let it pass?
Jeyne is like, really, really shy! A bit simple minded but sweet, altough she is a constant wreckage of nerves while she founds herself on tense situations. I like to think she, Rhaena and Elinor had a pretty good freindship or at least a partnership while they where on king's landing because her trauma is a really specific taste of trauma that who other person other than them could understand them? Elinor on the other hand,,, i really like to think she has been always one second away from killing Maegor, probably not her first rodeo in this of getting married with men twice her age against her wishes.
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15-lizards · 1 year ago
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Anon that asked for Maegor's wives here!!! Omg, i totally loved your takes about the first three wives (I call them myself "The laughning wives" bcs they married Maegor "happily and laughning" hehe). So, now your takes on the "Black brides", do you think Maegor letted them had their mourning clothes or got her all covered in gold that weighted like chains over them? And for the general fashion of the court? I am sorry if this are a lot of questions, i just really enjoy your fashion takes!
Thank you dear sweet baby anon 🫶
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Being from the Reach, Elinor dressed in the traditional fashions, but based on what we are given about her character, she seems to be a somber and modest woman. Even before she was married to Maegor, she dressed simply, still fitting for a noblewoman but nothing flashy. After her husbands murder she probably never wore anything other than black, unless Maegor forced her into something else. Even her wedding dress was a plain black mourning gown. Once Maegor died and she became a septa to Jaehaerys, she never ditched the bare bones simplicity and coverage of her mourning clothes, dressing like a commoner for the rest of her days
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Rhaena was never exceedingly extravagant, even when her father was king and she wasn’t on the run. Her outfits were always made from the finest of materials but never flashy, looking like they belonged on a merchants wife. Once Maegor called her forward, he probably dressed her in richly decorated, low cut, large skirted gowns more fitting to her station, as a way to anger his niece (though they were always black, as he took pride in causing the death of the husbands of his three brides). After she escaped and Jaehaerys was made king, she reverted back to her old fashion. However in the years that followed Elissa’s betrayal, her mother’s death in childbirth, the poisoning of her companions, and the brutal death of Aerea she became increasingly bitter and closed off. She put almost no effort into how she looked, allowing herself to be dressed like an old merchants widow until the end of her days
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Poor Jeyne Westerling dressed in the typical fashions of the Westerlands once her mourning period had ended (fashions similar to the reach) with slim skirts and high waists and gauzy veils. After Maegor sets sights on her, he dresses her in black once more, the simple and elegant mourning gowns to parade his new bride around in. Once she falls pregnant, a rarely elated Maegor allows her whatever she desires, and lauds her with extravagant gifts, clothing included. Up until the day of her untimely death, she was wearing cloth of gold skirts and puffy sleeves the size of her head.
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asoiafandotherbooks · 11 months ago
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TWOIAF/Fire & Blood: The Pregnancies And Deaths Of Two Queens
Warning, Spoilers Ahead…
It has been half a year since Maegor wed his Black Brides. Edwell Celtigar, the King’s Hand, announced that Queen Jeyne was with child. Maegor announced Queen Elinor’s pregnancy shortly afterwards.
Rhaena Targaryen never had an announced pregnancy. Was someone slipping her moon tea or did the incestuous Targaryen genes collide and prevent any pregnancy?
Maegor “showered both women with gifts and honors, and granted new lands and offices to their fathers, brothers, and uncles”.
Queen Jeyne was six months pregnant when she went into labor. She delivered a stillborn child “as monstrous as the one Alys Harroway had birthed , a legless and armless creature possessed of both male and female genital.” Jeyne died shortly afterwards.
Maegor and Herny VIII have several parallels when it comes to their wives:
Katherine of Aragorn/Ceryse Hightower – the first, faithful wife who is set aside
Anne Boleyn/Alys Harroway – executed on baseless charges
Jane Seymour/Jeyne Westerling – the pregnant wife who dies while giving birth
Anne of Cleves/Lord Celtigar’s sister – the “ugly” one the king rejects
Catherine Howard/Tyanna of the Tower – The only real resemblance between the two is their execution
Catherine Parr/Elinor Costayne/Rhaena Targaryen – The survivors after the king’s death
Men blamed the stillbirth on Maegor. They said he was cursed as was a kinslayer who made war against the Faith and the High Septon, defied the gods, committed murder and incest, adultery and rape. “His privy parts were poisoned, his seed full of worms, the gods would never grant him a living son.”
Maegor came to a different conclusion: He had Ser Owen Bush and Ser Maldon Moore to seize Queen Tyanna and deliver her to the dungeons. Tyanna made a full confession: she poisoned Jeyne Westerling and Alys Harroway’s wombs. She promised the same would happen to Elinor’s whelp.
Maegor slew Tyanna himself, “cutting out her heart with Blackfyre and feeding it to his dogs”.
The next month, Elinor delivered a “malformed and stillborn child, an eyeless boy born with rudimentary wings”.
The question remains: Did Tyanna poison the wombs of the three women or did Maegor’s genetics/nature of his conception play a factor in the stillbirths? We know Tyanna “confessed” but that could have been Tyanna goading Maegor into a murderous rage to ensure a quick death. Tyanna, of all people, would know what Maegor is capable of and would want to avoid an “Alys/Viserys” fate.
 I believe Tyanna caused the deaths of Alys Harroway and Visenya Targaryen. I’m not sure if Tyanna factored into Jeyne Westerling’s stillbirth. Jeyne’s child didn’t have any of the typical characteristics of the Targaryen “dragon babies” that pop up throughout the bloodline. I’d say there is a slim chance. I don’t know if Tyanna would be foolish enough to poison Jeyne in the same manner as Alys. Tyanna would have been smart enough to realize Maegor would come to the conclusion that he did and it would have ended badly for her (which it did).
Elinor’s stillbirth was pure Targaryen “dragon baby”.
The bigger question remains…was Maegor infertile?
Maegor was married to Ceryse for 18 years (separated for 5), wed to Alys for 6 years, and wed to Tyanna for 6 years. It is unknown if he took any lovers outside of the marital bed. I know an alleged bastard of Maegor will turn up during the Great Council but his claim is dubious. If Maegor had a bastard, even from a member of the smallfolk, he would have brought him/her to court if only to prove he could sire a child. His inability to sire a child has been hanging over his head for decades - Maegor has blamed Ceryse but until he sired a child, the question of who is infertile remains unknown.
If Maegor isn’t infertile, he suffers from low fertility. He was married for decades – at times to multiple women – and it only resulted in three known pregnancies.
He never sired a child with Ceryse Hightower. We can’t say for certain if Ceryse was barren as she had no other known lovers besides Maegor. Maegor claimed she was barren, but his infertility could have been the issue.
The first wife of Maegor to become pregnant was Alys Harroway. She gave birth to a stillborn, deformed son in the third month of pregnancy. The stillborn baby did not have the characteristics of the stillborn “dragon” babies that Laena, Rhaenyra, and Daenerys will later give birth to. So, either a stillbirth caused by non-magical defects or one induced by Tyanna via poison or magical means. We will never know if Alys would be able to conceive again as she was executed for alleged “infidelity”.  I suppose the alleged infidelity could mean the baby was sired by a man other than Maegor but I think the charges were false.
Maegor was never able to impregnate Tyanna. It’s possible Maegor had the misfortune of marrying a second barren woman, but he could have been at fault.
Maegor’s marriages with his “Black Brides” only lasted for a year or so.
Jeyne Westerling gave birth to a stillborn who had both male and female genitalia. Once again, no “dragon baby” characteristics.
Elinor Costayne gave birth to a stillborn child with “rudimentary” wings so this was a Targaryen “dragon baby”.
Maegor was never able to impregnate Rhaena Targaryen and she had a pair of twins with her first husband.
What caused Maegor’s fertility problems? Was it the nature of his conception, rumored to be magical in origin? Or was it his double-Targaryen genetics? A combination of both? Aenys, Maegor’s brother, had multiple children but its important to note that Aenys’ father may have not been a Targaryen. (Always a good thing to deepen the gene pool).
Up next, the downfall of Maegor the Cruel.
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Maegor I Targaryen, also known as Maegor the Cruel, was the third Targaryen king to sit the Iron Throne. He was the son of King Aegon I Targaryen and his elder sister-wife, Queen Visenya Targaryen. He had an older half-brother, Aenys I Targaryen.
The polygamous Maegor had six wives: Ceryse Hightower, Alys Harroway, Tyanna of the Tower, Elinor Costayne, Jeyne Westerling, and his niece Rhaena Targaryen, the last three of whom are known as the Black Brides.
Appearance and Character :
Maegor was a tall, broad, and fearsomely strong man, larger than his father, Aegon I Targaryen. He was bull-like, with heavy shoulders, a thick neck, and huge arms. Though he was on the heavy side, he was not fat, but more massive and square. He kept his hair short and his beard trimmed to his jawline. He had angry-looking, suspicious eyes, and a scowling mouth.
Maegor was a born warrior whose skill with weapons was unmatched. He lived for war, tourneys, and battle, and rose to become one of the youngest and finest knights of his time. However, he was also a hard and brutal man who craved violence, death, and absolute mastery over all he deemed his. His savagery in the field and his harshness toward defeated enemies was frequently remarked upon.
Maegor was quarrelsome, quick to take offense, slow to forgive, and fearsome in his wroth. He was a rigid man, unyielding, and unbending. He preferred fire and steel over settling issues through discussion, and showed cruel tendencies early in his childhood. Although he had many companions throughout his youth, he had no true friends, and even as an adult Maegor trusted no one.
Maegor wore his father's Valyrian steel-and-ruby crown. His armor, however, was more elaborate than Aegon's. Instead of a shirt of scale, Maegor wore a breastplate, covered by a surcoat that displayed the Targaryen three-headed dragon, red on black.
What demon possessed him none could say. Even today, some give thanks that his tyranny was a short one, for who knows how many noble houses might have vanished forever simply to state his desire. —writings of Yandel
Maegor, the First of His Name, came to the throne after the sudden death of his brother, King Aenys, in the year 42 AC. He is better remembered as Maegor the Cruel, and it was a well-earned sobriquet, for no crueler king ever sat the Iron Throne. His reign began with blood and ended in blood as well. —writings of Yandel
Maegor, the First of His Name, came to the throne after the sudden death of his brother, King Aenys, in the year 42 AC. He is better remembered as Maegor the Cruel, and it was a well-earned sobriquet, for no crueler king ever sat the Iron Throne. His reign began with blood and ended in blood as well. —thoughts of Catelyn Stark
King Maegor wanted no rats in his own walls, if you take my meaning. He did require a means of secret egress, should he ever be trapped by his enemies, but that door does not connect with any other passages. —Varys to Tyrion Lannister
Reign : 42–48 AC
Coronation : 42 AC Dragonstone
Full name : Maegor of House Targaryen, the First of His Name
Titles :
Prince
Ser
Hand of the King
King of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men
Lord of the Seven Kingdoms
Protector of the Realm
Predecessor : King Aenys I Targaryen
Heirs :
Prince Jaehaerys Targaryen (disinherited)
Princess Aerea Targaryen
Successor : King Jaehaerys I Targaryen
Aliases :
The Prince of Dragonstone
Maegor the Cruel
The Abomination on the Iron Throne
Born : 12 AC Dragonstone
Died : 48 AC King's Landing
Buried : 48 AC Dragonstone
Race : Valyrian
Culture : Crownlander
Dynasty : Targaryen
Queens :
Ceryse Hightower (42–45 AC)
Alys Harroway (42–44 AC)
Tyanna of the Tower (42–48 AC)
Elinor Costayne (47–48 AC)
Rhaena Targaryen (47–48 AC)
Jeyne Westerling (47–48 AC)
Issue : Three stillborn children A bastardman-at-arms(allegedly)
Father : King Aegon I Targaryen
Mother : Queen Visenya Targaryen
Books :
The World of Ice & Fire (mentioned)
Fire & Blood (mentioned)
The Rise of the Dragon (mentioned)
The Sons of the Dragon (mentioned)
The Rogue Prince (mentioned)
The Princess and the Queen (mentioned)
The Sworn Sword (mentioned)
A Game of Thrones (mentioned)
A Clash of Kings (mentioned)
A Storm of Swords (mentioned)
A Feast for Crows (mentioned)
A Dance with Dragons (mentioned)
Fancast(s) : Peter Franzén / Alexander Ludwig
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Aemond who was described as "fierce from birth" , who also called his sister a whore in the day his father died , shown sociopathic tendencies from his childhood , these sociopathic tendencies have developed much worse in his adulthood to the point he was able to commit heinous crimes like genocide without a single fuck in the world. And all the sources in the book have similar characterization of Aemond , so that's means that his personality and his actions were all on display for everyone to witness it . But according to Ryan the historians are too biased and they've properly misunderstood everything.
So Aemond was turned into a poor mew mew in the show that didn't mean it , that's makes me wonder actually if Ryan will ever adopted Maegor's reign, would he make Maegor this big softie that everyone in westros misunderstood? All of Maegor's cruel actions are nothing but propaganda from Jaehaerys to destroy the reputation of Maegor the softie ?
No anon, Ryan would have Visenya and Maegor have a really close relationship where Visenya is jealous of her sister Rhaenys for having all of Aegon’s love and affection.
Visenya plots against Aenys I from the beginning because of that vendetta against Rhaenys, and people love Visenya because she is the “official” wife, or the “first”/”prime” wife in Aegon’s “harem”. 
Because Valyrians had full, stratified harems like you’d imagine from the Ottoman empire, you see. The canon historians don’t have enough information to tell us about Valyrian culture, but this is definitely what existed in Valyria.
But she’s actually being honorable; she only usurped Aenys (because it’s not Aegon, Aenys I’s son, who gets usurped, it’s Aenys himself this time, this is in canon you see) and we find out her “true” intentions in episode 4 (while in episode 2 we saw her looking like she wanted to stab Rhaenys and never mentions the succession and the realm’s “well being” at all).
So she forces/manipulates Maegor into marrying all the women he marries, even the Black Brides of Jeyne Westerling, Elinor Costayne, and his niece Rhaena Targaryen. She despises Tyanna, but finds her magic useful and tries to confiscate her potions, etc. for herself on some pretext.
Except Tyanna of the Tower is the only woman he ever loved, you see, because she was his only real choice. Ryan calls Tyanna Maegor’s “mail-order-bride” and “only true lover” in one interview and another. Her Lyseni pussy puts Maegor into a tizzy, from all her “training”. People online also call her a mail order bride and says this proves how evil the Targs are for being white people taking advantage of poor Essosi (Essos is a place of only vacation-locations) peoples for self gratification.
Tyanna, in order to gain back power and make sure his attention is always on her, poisons all of Maegor’s other wives and botches their pregnancies. Maegor, in order to eliminate this threat to his family, orders her execution, and he tears up or cries as he turns away from her for the last time. (The “rumor” of her heart being ripped out is just her personal writings that some maester re-recorded inaccurately, and then another maester [because some parts were too deteriorated to read] wrote down as if her writing Maegor “ripped her heart out” was literal instead of her complaining about him having sex with other women.)
Alyssa Velayron cheats on Aenys with Rogar specifically because Aenys is a little baby bitch boy and Rogar was a man who “did what needed to be done”, even when he tried to usurp Jahaerys for Aerea (Rhaena’s daughter by Aegon “the Uncrowned”). She enlists his help to overtake Maegor (pussy power enslaves men), and Visenya (who apparently survives her canon death and stays the puppet of her son). In all this while, Rhaena lives in the Keep with the other poor brides and abuses Tyanna or dismisses Tyanna’s low birth. Her nose is always up, you see.
Maegor dies when Elinor Costayne pushes him into the Iron Throne, finally drudging up the muster to address him killing her husband while he burned down the holy Sept. Because, you know, he did that and her husband was one of those that were burned alive while praying. *Tear.
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