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dear-indies · 1 year ago
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hi!! hopefully this isn’t too difficult or strange of a request, but i’m trying to find alternative faceclaims for val kilmer (specifically his look in the movie “heat”) that also have a lot of cowboy/western resources! long hair (doesn’t matter what color) is a must, but otherwise everything else is fair game :) thank you so much! -🐂 (bull anon)
Benjamin Bratt (1963) Peruvian [Quechua] / German, English, Sudeten German - hasn't got long hair but his vibes in DMZ.
Zahn McClarnon (1966) Hunkpapa Lakota Sioux and Irish - Timeless, Queen of the South.
Marcus LaVoi (1968) Ojibwe.
Timothy Olyphant (1968) one eighth Ashkenazi Jewish - didn't have long hair in Justified but the vibe is too good not to mention.
Josh Holloway (1969) - Yellowstone.
Andrew Lincoln (1973) - The Walking Dead.
Rodrigo Santoro (1975) Brazilian [Portuguese, including Azorean, possibly other] / Italian - Westworld.
Cole Hauser (1975) Ashkenazi Jewish / German, Irish, Walloon Belgian, French, Scottish - didn't have long hair in Yellowstone but the vibe is too good not to mention.
Tim Rozon (1976) - Wynonna Earp.
Wagner Moura (1976) Brazilian [Portuguese, distant African, possibly other] - O Caminho das Nuvens.
Gabriel Luna (1982) Mexican, including Lipan Apache - Last of Us.
Khary Payton (1982) African-American - The Walking Dead.
Garrett Hedlund (1984)
Richard Cabral (1984) Mexican - Mayans M.C.
Alex Meraz (1984) Mexican [Purepecha] - The Walking Dead.
Cooper Andrews (1985) Samoan / Ashkenazi Jewish - The Walking Dead.
Martin Sensmeier (1985) Tlingit, Eyak, Koyukon, German, Irish - kinda has long hair in Alaska Daily.
Amar Chadha-Patel (1986) Gujarati Indian.
Kiowa Gordon (1990) Hualapai, English, Scottish, Danish, Manx - Reservation Dogs.
Lucas Till (1990) - had longer hair in MacGyver at some point.
Brock O'Hurn (1991) - Close To Home.
Danny Ramirez (1992) Colombian / Mexican - The Walking Dead, Black Mirror.
Justin Johnson Cortez (?) Yaqui.
Here you go!
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viharistenno · 1 year ago
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It's not often that people speak Hungarian in any foreign shows. I think I once heard it in Supergirl as sort of an Easter Egg for Martians and another time in Wynonna Earp because it sounds weird enough to be a language of magic. And actors usually struggle with it because it's hard.
But never did I imagine to hear a perfect pronounciation in one of the weirdest shows I ever watched, the second season of Russian Doll (and this is just the second episode).
Of course the actress who plays Vera was born in Hungary and storywise it all makes sense (I just learnt Natasha Lyonne's grandmother was Jewish-Hungarian so this is a very interesting self reflection as she is the person behind the whole thing as well as the lead actress).
For me my mothertongue is very personal, a part of my identity, a way I connect at the core. And it's the weirdest feeling, being touched at the core by a few sentences in my native language and the way Vera as a character is written. When you say Oh My God this is something I know, that I have seen.
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whitepolaris · 2 years ago
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Welcome to Necropolis!
Incorporated in 1924, the city of Colma actually has a lot more dead residents, an estimated two million, then it does living, around 1,200. There are seventeen cemeteries within the city’s two square miles, accounting for approximately 73 percent of the total acreage of the town. Some of the boneyards contain some fairly noteworthy former folks, such as denim pioneer Levi Strauss, publishing potentate William Randolph Hearst, and Tombstone gunslinger Wyatt Earp. 
So just how did this city end up with so many dead occupants? The Colma official Web site, www.colma.ca.gov/briefhis.html, tells the story colorfully, if not always with the best grammar.
A California State Law was passed in the late 1800′s, State Penal Code 297 stated-prohibited any burials anywhere except an established cemetery such as one by a city or county, church, ethnic group or military. You could no longer bury a body on the homestead or along a wagon trail. 
San Francisco had many cemeteries established by the time gold was discovered. Hundreds of thousands arrived bringing diseases, followed by deaths and filled their cemeteries to capacity. 
Cemetery owners started looking for new locations to expand or relocate their burial grounds. They were frustrated in their attempt to buy San Francisco property. Land was too valuable for cemetery to use said real estate promoters. 
The San Francisco City Fathers passed Bill #54 & Ordinance #25 on 3-26-1900 stating that no further burials will be allowed in the City & County of San Francisco. With no further burials, they became a place of neglect and vandalism. They then became a health hazard. 
Colma became the chosen area for cemeteries. . . . 
In August of 1912 the San Francisco’s Board of Supervisors declared intent to evict all cemeteries in their jurisdiction. 
On Jan. 14, 1914 Removal notices were sent to all cemeteries, branding them as “A public nuisance and a menace and detriment to the health and welfare of city dwellers.” Ordinance 2597. 
There were many delays to this order as the cemeteries and some citizens fought to have it revoked. By Nov. of 1937 the legal battles were over and bodies not removed were now ordered to have removed. 
Colma cemeteries now inherited hundreds of thousands of additional bodies. 
This led to the incorporation of the cemetery area that became known as Lawndale on August 5, 1924. . . . We kept Lawndale until the United States Postal Service informed us there was a Lawndale in Southern Calif. We went back to the name of Colma. This was on Nov. 17, 1941. 
City of the Dead
I live here in San Francisco and wanted to write to you about the city of Colma. It is often called the City of the Dead due to the fact that it has many cemeteries, which include Jewish cemetery, Chinese cemetery, pet cemetery, and so forth. It is known that this town has more dead people than living. The reason there are so many cemeteries is because in San Francisco it is “not allowed” to bury people. Some kind of ordinance that passed in the early 1900′s I think. You should check it out. -Leticia
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gregarnott · 4 months ago
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Did you know that Wyatt Earp, the infamous American lawman, is buried in Colma, CA?
Wyatt Earp is best remembered for the gunfight at the O.K. Corral in Tombstone, AZ in 1881. At that time, Wyatt's brother Virgil was the City Marshal of Tombstone. Virgil, along with Wyatt, their brother Morgan and friend Doc Holliday, were at odds with a group of "cowboys." According to an SF Chronicle report dated October 27th, 1881, on October 26th, one of the cowboys was arrested for carrying concealed weapons. After paying a fine, he made threats against the Earps. Virgil then asked his brothers and Doc Holliday to help him disarm the cowboys. As Virgil told the cowboys to give up their guns, one of them, a man named Frank McLaury, drew his pistol. Wyatt shot first hitting Frank. A shootout ensued that resulted in the deaths of Frank and Tom McLaury and Billy Clanton. Most citizens believed that the Earps and Holliday were justified in their actions, and that it was a case of "kill or get killed." However, Wyatt and Holliday were arrested on murder charges days later. Some witnesses had come forward claiming that the McLaury brothers and Clanton had their arms in the air when Holliday took the first shot. After an investigation, the charges were dropped and the courts deemed their actions justifiable. In 1957, an SF Chronicle article questioned whether Earp was in fact "a nerveless hero of the law or a hardened gunslinger who used the law to mask an outlaw career."
Wyatt Earp eventually gave up law enforcement. He went on to marry Josephine Marcus who was from a prominent Jewish family in San Francisco. Wyatt and Josephine lived in SF from 1890 to 1897. They later settled in Los Angeles where Wyatt befriended many notable people in the film industry.
Wyatt Earp died in LA on January 13, 1929. Josephine's family owned a plot in the Jewish cemetery, "Hills of Eternity Memorial Park" in Colma. Although Wyatt wasn't Jewish, he had agreed to be buried there. When Josephine passed, her remains were interred in the same grave. In July of 1957, thieves stole Wyatt and Josephine's tombstone. It was found a few months later on Skyline Blvd near San Bruno.
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noratilney · 2 years ago
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I’m not Jewish yet but some of my ocs are!
Isaac & Emmie Cohen (The Vampire Diaries) - Isaac’s face claim is Sean Berdy and Emmie’s is Elodie Blomfield; Isaac and his dad are also Deaf
Wren Ellis (Wynonna Earp) - I should note that I haven’t worked out a fancast for Wren yet
Mariana Garcia Sandoval (Glee) - Mariana’s face claim is Herizen Guardiola
Lindy Thomas (Gossip Girl) - Lindy’s face claim is Kiernan Shipka
I have some original fiction ocs who are Jewish also but I’m not going to list them here. I would be happy to elsewhere if anyone wants to know though.
I do not have any pagan ocs.
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Please, if you are comfortable sharing such things, comment or reblog if you are Jewish or Pagan to help with day two and ten challenges. You may just receive something special.
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officerhaughtstuff · 8 years ago
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I love the Jewish headcanon for the Earps. What led you to that?
bc wyatt earp’s third wife (the only one that makes sense canonically to be the mother of the Earp line) was Jewish and Wyatt Earp was historically very respectful of that. he even (though this is only a theory bc the exact cause of the fight was lost to the ages (this one is p likely given some letters that were found tho)) got into a fight with his bff doc holliday over doc’s anti-semitism and they literally NEVER. TALKED. AGAIN. (i mean there were other factors besides wyatt’s respect towards Judaism. there was also possibly doc insulting wyatt’s maybe side chick who was Jewish (and also who later became his third wife so......awkward.)) wyatt earp respected Judaism and knew enough about it to follow customs without being told. Josephine Earp was Jewish and if she wanted to raise her kids Jewish i think wyatt would go along with it. esp since i dont think he was shown to have strong religious feelings in any direction.
    so, historically, i think that the Earps being Jewish makes the most sense. in heritage if not in practice (i say that bc i cant see asshole Ward bothering to teach the kiddos about their heritage, religion, or culture)
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tobeyisprochoice · 6 years ago
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-whispers- you know, -puts on sun glasses- abortion isn't -rides off on motorcycle- murder 😎
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garthim-brooks · 2 years ago
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I've spent a long time lurking on this blog waiting to compose the "right" first post but it's never exactly what you thought would be right anyway... right?
So for anyone meeting me right now. Hi.
I don't have DNIs but I do have a few disclaimers so I only interact with people who feel comfortable doing so: I am a man (yes I'm trans, but YES I'm a "real" man) and probably older than you (early millennial). I was a teen parent, so I literally have a child who is an adult in their 20s.
I'm autistic and have multiple physical disabilities, and I use a wheelchair.
I like the Muppets (and all things Jim Henson, and puppetry in general) and middle grade horror. I love country music and Chapel Hart is the best band ever. I am not immune to occasional SPN-posting but if you know me from my old Supernatural blog, no you don't.
I will sometimes post things from a weird sampling of fandoms including but not limited to: Wynonna Earp, Doctor Who, Stranger Things, BCS/BRBA, The Good Place, and probably Paper Girls if there turns out to be a fandom because holy shit I'm in love so far.
Sometimes I'll also post cat videos, pictures of manatees, Jewish shtetl aesthetics, backyard chickens, vintage campers and cars, vaguely eerie country roads, literally any object the color teal, and various overlaps thereof.
If you're still reading and any of that sounds like a person you'd like to be friends with, hi. Let's be friends. If you just wanna point out that you post one of the things I'm looking for, let me know and I'll follow you.
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docholligay · 4 years ago
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Chinese Food in The American West
One of the things I frequently come across as a student of the American West* is that people get most of their information from movies and TV and then act like they know things. Wyatt Earp was not a Lawful Good champion who always did his level best even when it was hard to know. (You want Seth Bullock or Bass Reeves). Racism was far more complicated than white vs not white (I’ve talked about this EXTENSIVELY in Strange Empire, so I’m not going to bore you here**). 
And they didn’t just eat steak. In fact, they rarely ate steak. 
Steak as cowboy food isn’t INACCURATE, but it is MODERN. From about the early 1900s on, you had less and less drives and more and more ranchers who were staying put, with less and less hands needed, and so food was grabbed less “on the go.” Cows could be slaughtered and used to feed the family, allowing for more opportunities for things like steak, yes, but also things like chili, a play on sauerbraten, southern-style biscuits. The cattle drives were a real blend of culture and race, and a lot of what we have left as “Western food” owes a great deal to that. 
And if we leave the cattle drives and head into the towns of the American West, as we will today, we find things like oysters, pies, and various things like that. Far more well-heeled than the general expectation. 
I mean, here’s the menu from the Occidental Saloon circa the late 1880s:
Soups
Chicken Giblet and Consumme, with Egg
Fish
Columbia River Salmon, au Beurre Noir
Relieves
Filet a Boeuf, a la Financier
Leg of Lamb, Sauce, Oysters
Cold Meats
Loin of Beef, Loin of Ham, Loin of Pork, Westphalia Ham, Corned Beef, Imported Lunches
Boiled Meats
Leg of Mutton, Ribs of Beef, Corned Beef and Cabbage, Russian River Bacon
Entrees
Pinons a Poulett, aux Champignons
Cream Fricasse of Chicken, Asparagus Points
Lapine Domestique, a la Matire d'Hote
Casserole d'Ritz aux Oeufs, a la Chinoise
Ducks of Mutton, Braze, with Chipoluta Ragout
California Fresh Peach, a la Conde
Roasts
Loin of Beef, Loin of Mutton, Leg of Pork
Apple Sauce, Suckling Pig, with Jelly, Chicken Stuffed Veal
Pastry
Peach, Apple, Plum, and Custard Pies
English Plum Pudding, Hard Sauce, Lemon Flavor
This dinner will be served for 50 cents.
-I got this from the book “Saloons of the Old West” by Erdoes
But none of that is precisely why I’m here, I just can’t stop myself from talking about this, why I’m here is that one of the things I say that often surprises people, is that Chinese food was incredibly common for the, well, common man to eat. There’s very much a conception that we as a non-Chinese American  people did not start eating Chinese food until the 40s and 50s, and its truer that it took longer to catch on in the American East than the West simply as a matter of proximity and choice. 
Not MORE choice but LESS. Part of what made the West so unique, historically, is that the lack of choice and the basic scarcity caused people to work with and patronize people that their general prejudices would have kept them from using back east, because they had CHOICES. But out in the west, less so. There were few choices for a quick, cheap meal on the go. That dinner I just posted above is a lavish affair, and a great deal at approximately $20.00 in today’s money. (Which does not allow for the fact that cost of supplies has gone up and this dinner would most likely be offered for no less than 70 or so today.) 
People desperately wanted something that was cheap and quick, and the other options in the American West were few, far between, and not intensely pleasing. No one had really come up with the sandwich shop as of yet, and in any case, fresh meats and cheeses would have been too difficult for the low-cost supplier. 
ENTER THE CHINESE POPULATION.
If you have read my Strange Empire blogs, I hope you know that Chinese people were a huge presence in the American West, mostly working for the railroad and various mines, but also doing things like laundry, work that was extremely hard but took little in the way of English speaking. They existed in Chinatowns, for a combination of cultural and legal factors, but it’s a misconception that non-Chinese*** people never went to Chinatown. 
People are not new, and it was not unusual for non-Chinese people to use the laundries, tailoring, and other services of Chinatowns while suppressing the rights of Chinese people int he same breath. There were always individual Chinese people any given non-Chinese person liked and did business with. 
In time, they discovered the inherent wisdom of the noodle bowl. 
I don’t mean to suggest that all these early restaurants served was noodle bowls, but that was where it all started. Remember, Italian food had little prominence in America at the this time, as Italian immigration didn’t really get into full swing until the 1870s in America. While there are noodle traditions half of everywhere, and there is nothing new under the sun, what we today would consider a stir-fry bowl was wildly new to most of the non-Chinese folks in the West. That it could be offered up so cheaply, was so filling, and so delicious (more on this later) was a wild revelation. Everyone from simple cowboys (which, fun fact! Was a slur back then!) to mayors were swinging by Chinatowns to try the dishes. 
By the 1920s, chop suey, a fully Chinese American invention derived from the words for “various leftovers” was a hugely popular American food among all sorts. 
Doc, you may ask, was it just that these folks coming through to get medicines or laundry were SO adventurous? Not at all! Chinese restaurants back then actually, in a very short amount of time, realized that their non-Chinese townsfolk were an excellent way to make money as well, and began to adapt and change dishes to better fit the Western palate, leading what we call American Chinese Food today, which is a legitimate foodway I will defend to my death. Unfortunately, none of these menus survive today--the only ones we have are from places in San Francisco, places that were much more posh, and not the subject of this essay. 
There is a scene in Tombstone where Wyatt and his brothers are eating Chinese food, and it’s one of the things people often ask me about, assuming it’s anachronistic. Actually, it isn’t at all--the anachronism is that there’s broccoli in those noodle bowls, which had not yet hit our shores by the time of the OK Corral. Chinese food was a huge hit, Chinese restaurants were doing extremely well, and some Chinese restaurants were even beginning to attempt to print menus in English, with sit down areas, instead of serving simple fare from food carts. 
As the food from these “chow chow houses” grew in popularity, as we can infer from the advertisements of their competitors promising free potatoes with every meal, and other such niceties to entice, there was, as ever there must be, blowback. Anti-Chinese sentiment grew to a fever pitch, and with this came overt pressure for ‘Good Americans” to patronize ‘American restaurants’. The social pressure is actually where we get some of that old racist jargon about Chinese people serving dogs and cats, which people often think was spread by competitors to degrade the Chinese restaurants, which isn’t UNTRUE, but was just as often said sheepishly by someone who couldn’t stop themselves from going and grabbing a noodle bowl or even the American dishes they offered, such as roast chicken or pork chop sandwiches. 
(I won’t comment with anything but an eyeroll on the bullshit of people saying they’re ~allergic to MSG~ okay I’ll believe you when you stop eating processed food, meat, aged cheese) 
It actually kept this type of reputation as being slightly scandalous well into the early 1900s, as being something you ate after the bar, something to be had in the shadows, but it was all for naught, because Chinese food became an important part of American identity. But for all that, no one ever pictures the Lone Ranger chowing down (the American phrase ‘chow’ for food actually comes from these ‘chow chow houses’) on some chop suey, but there’s every reason to believe he would have. American Chinese food is just as American as the Germanically-influenced hamburger. 
(There’s a whole subtopic to go down about Jewish and Chinese communities and Kosher Chinese Food, two marginalized and othered communities coming together, but that’s a WHOLE other topic) 
(Also someone please buy me Chinese food. This shit always makes me so hungry.) 
*The American West is a specific time period, as far as the study of history goes. It covers the period between the end of the Civil War and the New Century, generally, and is, obviously, concerned with the western half of the country. It doesn’t cover stuff like Lewis and Clark (that’s Expansion) or even the Civil War itself, though you cannot possibly hope to study the American West in any level of seriousness without understanding the Civil War. Anyway! I know a lot about America between 1865 and 1900, and am just knowledgeable enough to be dangerous on everything else. Most History nerds are highly specified like this. We’re not as much help to your trivia team as you think.****
**I actually have had little chance to talk about ~European-style xenophobia~ as it played out in the west, because Strange Empire takes a more modern pass at it. But there was a hierarchy of “whiteness” as well, as still largely exists in Europe, land of intentionally clean ethnostates. 
***I use the term “non-Chinese” instead of white because believe it or not, non-white people were not magically free of racism against Chinese people. It was horrific and BASICALLY every non-Chinese person was guilty of it to some level, a wild-ass level of hatred that led to Chinese folks not being able to PURCHASE PROPERTY BY LAW in ENTIRE STATES. Being Chinese or Native in this place and time was your Worst Bet. 
****I actually was on a competitive trivia team, you DO want me.
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riverenodian · 4 years ago
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New year, new Tumblr
...well, not totally new. I’ve been here for a while and am increasing my presence here as I seek to drastically decrease my time spent in the toxicity that is FB and Twitter. 
I also just cleaned out the blogs I’m following by like half, hahaha. Like people who haven’t posted in years.
Eep. 
So I’m looking for new blogs to follow!
Reblog and/or like this post if you post about any or all of the following:
- witchcraft and magic in general - polytheism (especially Greek, but I am a polytheist, polytheist) - Judaism and/or Jewitch stuff - Hellenism and/or the Greek gods in general - fun witchy shit - LGBTQIA+ stuff
Or any or all of the following fandoms: - Averno (DHP represent!) - SPN (especially Destiel shippers!) - Night Vale (if you see something say nothing and drink to forget) - Star Trek (especially Discovery but I love everything but JJ Abrams’ atrocity) - Star Wars (Team Ahsoka forever) - The Magicians (I am also Team Julia and Queliot forever) - The Good Place (Jeremy Bearimy!) - Marvel (everything really, but I’m super excited for Wandavision and anything involving either Jessica Jones or Shuri) - DC (also everything really, but Harley/Ivy forever) - Wynonna Earp (any WayHaught fans in the house?) - What We Do In the Shadows (but not you Guillermo /j) - Doctor Who (especially the RTD era) - Chilling Adventures of Sabrina (I have no ships, I just love the show in general. Theo, Hilda, and Lilith are among my fav chars) - Lucifer (Maze is fucking awesome) Bonus points if you would pay actual money just to watch any or all of the following actors get up on stage and read from CVS receipts: - David Tennant - Misha Collins - Patrick Stewart - John de Lancie - Tatiana Maslany (Oh yeah I’m also an Orphan Black fan too) Also, to weed out the queerphobes, transphobes, racists, and antisemitics: I am aro-ace and agender non-binary who is a polytheistic witch and Jewish. I lean extremely left. Black Lives Matter. Black Trans Lives Matter. Black Trans Women’s Lives Matter. 1312. If you already follow me, please give this post a boost so others can find me. Love ya. 
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dear-indies · 1 year ago
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Hi, first of all thank for all you do. I was wondering if you could help me an actress aged between 35-42 that have action ressource and can fit in a universe similar to the transformers universe. Thanks
Danai Gurira (1978) Shona Zimbabwean - The Walking Dead, Black Panther.
Lauren Ridloff (1978) African-American / Mexican - is deaf - Externals, The Waking Dead.
Stephanie Beatriz (1981) Colombian [German, one quarter Sephardi Jewish, Dutch, Spanish, Basque, possibly other] / Bolivian [Spanish, Indigenous, Basque, possibly other] - Twisted Metal.
Maggie Q (1979) Vietnamese / Polish, as well as Irish and French - Designated Survivor, The Protégé.
Krysten Ritter (1981) - Jessica Jones.
Melanie Scrofano (1981) - Wynonna Earp.
Jessica Alba (1981) Mexican [including Spanish, Indigenous Mexican/Mayan, and distant Sephardi Jewish] / Danish, Welsh, English, Scottish, Scots-Irish/Northern Irish, French - L.A.'s Finest.
Jamie Chung (1983) Korean - The Misfits.
Mary Elizabeth Winstead (1984) - Kate, Birds of Prey.
DeWanda Wise (1984) African-American - Jurassic World Dominion.
Betty Gilpin (1986) - The Hunt.
Jodie Turner-Smith (1986) Afro Jamaican - Without Remorse.
Some of these aren't 100% the universe vibe but can totally still work!
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girlactionfigure · 4 years ago
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Bet you never thought you’d read those in the same headline (and it’s all true). Josephine Marcus, the daughter of Polish Jewish immigrants was legendary U.S. Marshal Wyatt Earp’s common law wife for over 40 years. He kissed the Mezuzah every day, attended Shul and Seder nights on several occasions and fell out with Doc Holliday when he was accused of becoming  ‘a damn jew boy’.  Earp is buried at the Hills of Eternity Jewish Cemetery in Colma, California, alongside Josephine and her parents.
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gatesofember · 4 years ago
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has Percy always been Jewish in the Wild West au? I just caught up and I didn’t remember that!
No, I didn’t decide that the Jacksons were Jewish until later on. I don’t remember exactly when but I did go back to one of the first few chapters and added a detail about a mezuzah at the entrance to the inn. Usually I like Latinx Percy but for some reason I wanted the Jacksons to be Jewish in the Wild West au? It’s probably because Jews played a pretty big role in the old west. For example, Levi Strauss (of Levi’s jeans, a staple in the west) was Jewish and many old west towns had Jewish mayors (Tombstone had a Jewish mayor during the shootout at the OK Corral). Wyatt Earp’s common law wife was Jewish and he actually had a huge falling out with his best friend (and possibly boyfriend) Doc Holiday because Holiday used an antisemitic slur. Jews had more opportunities and faced less discrimination in the west than they did in eastern US. Also smaller towns in the old west didn’t always have religious places of worship or religious leaders, and while Christian churches and pastors generally came pretty quickly, Jews tended to continue to practice religion at home. And since home was generally the woman’s domain, women were very important in carrying on Jewish traditions in the old west. I liked the idea of Mrs. Jackson being a leader for Ladon Creek’s Jewish community. Anyway I guess that since Jews played such a prominent role in the old west, I wanted to represent them with more than a character that I’d mention once or twice like Lavinia. And I do like the idea of the Jacksons being Jewish so...Jewish Jacksons!
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sunriseverse · 3 years ago
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ignore this post i’m trying to hammer out some details anyway…………wisdom and edwin’s mother (cristiana) being brazilian probably means she’d originally be catholic. wyatt earp, despite never openly referring to himself as jewish (which, given the time he lived in, is understandable), was buried, along with his wife, in an all-jewish cemetery, so i don’t think it’s too much of a stretch to say that josiah was probably also jewish. i think, given the time, cristiana probably converted to judaism when she married him, but as someone whose mother also converted to her husband’s faith, this is unlikely to have changed certain things, like her……..worldview and certain things she passed on to her children, i guess, for lack of better phrasing—for example, the concept of damnation and repentance i think are probably things that would be so ingrained she’d pass them on, even subconsciously. i think wisdom probably has a bit of a cobbled together sense of spirituality and belief because of this. i think she’s observant, moreso than edwin, but probably comes off as kind of………………lackadaisical? i guess, towards other jewish people, at least as a kid (the earps in general are viewed as being……..weird and unconventional, i think, which extends to their faith and practice). when she leaves purgatory to work as a horse tamer, she winds up working for a jewish family, becoming close with the eldest daughter, rebecca, which i think leads to her becoming more serious in her faith, as well as open about it, to the point where when she has to go back to purgatory to deal with the revenants it feels uncomfortable to have to press herself back into the blander, more acceptable mould necessary to be there and not be the target of harassment. in a different version of events, i like to think that, after breaking the curse, she returns to the family she was working for, eventually becoming a member of the family and being able to live a long, happy life with rebecca, able to express herself, both in faith and in identity
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ao3feed-supercorp · 4 years ago
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To Catch A Dream
by DoDatLikeDat
Words: 5475, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English
Series: Part 5 of Unbroken
Fandoms: Supergirl (TV 2015), Wynonna Earp (TV), Justice League (2017), The Avengers (Marvel Movies)
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings, Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death
Categories: F/F, F/M, M/M
Characters: Kara Danvers, Alex Danvers, Maggie Sawyer, Lena Luthor, J'onn J'onzz | Hank Henshaw, James "Jimmy" Olsen, Kelly Olsen, Winn Schott Jr., M'gann M'orzz, Samantha "Sam" Arias, Ruby Arias, Lucy Lane, Lois Lane, Clarke Kent, Natalie Gortman, Micheal Que, Adam Snapper, Lucas Snapper, Wynnona Earp, Doc Holliday, Querl Dox, Nia Nal, Waverly Earp, Nicole Haught, Natasha Romanoff, Wanda Maximoff, Steve Rogers, Pepper Potts, Tony Stark
Relationships: Kara Danvers/Lena Luthor, Kara Danvers & Lena Luthor, Alex Danvers & Maggie Sawyer, Alex Danvers/J'onn J'onzz | Hank Henshaw, James "Jimmy" Olsen/Winn Schott Jr., Samantha "Sam" Arias/Alex Danvers/Kelly Olsen, J'onn J'onzz & M'gann M'orzz, Samantha "Sam" Arias/Lucy Lane, Ruby Arias & Samantha "Sam" Arias, Ruby Arias & Alex Danvers, Ruby Arias/Natalie Gortman, Micheal Que/Adam Snapper, Lucas Snapper and Kara Danvers, Lois Lane/Clark Kent, Wynonna Earp & Doc Holliday, Querl Dox/Nia Nal, Waverly Earp & Nicole Haught, Natasha Romanoff/Wanda Maximoff, Pepper Potts/Tony Stark
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officerhaughtstuff · 8 years ago
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If you're going to go by history though, Wyatt Earp never had children with any wife. Wynonna Earp as a narrative departs from history by the very existence of Wynonna at all. I guess I don't understand where supposition of historical influence comes into play here when there's no historical basis for the show's own mythology. And we've seen Waverly make a sign of the cross on screen. Are there similar symbolic gestures in Judaism?
we have to assume that there’s some historical basis for their portrayal of wyatt earp, they list a number of true things about him when they mention him. the biggest differences that i can see (outside of the whole “evil witch” thing) are the nature of his split with doc holliday, his non-existant children, and that he ended up a small town sheriff. he really was a us marshall some of the time. not as much as implied in the show, but given that they dont give strict dates or percentages or even anything outside of “he worked with the law” or “he sought justice”, which are both true abstract statements, we can’t outright say that the show is incorrect about those facts. so, without any other evidence, and with no other obvious assumptions to make, I assumed its just wyatt earp’s life but slightly divergent from reality. also, given that we’re given pretty much jack shit in terms of the earp family tree outside of: wyatt earp, some people, ward and his kids, its fair to find some sort of framework to construct a narrative on. i mean we dont even know all the details of the curse. or who cast it. or why. how does magic work? what exactly separates revenants from demons? how does the black badge and other assumedly existing organizations (not that we have proof of those, mind you) cover up every single magical occurence and governmental response to these occurences? in the modern age of social media? you cant tell me there arent a million viral videos and other documentation of fucking lizard me doing kickflips or bigfoot doing her hair. why is waverly given two contradicting dates for her birthday? (in the show she says shes a virgo. on the canonical syfy website that gives facts abt each character it says she was born in Februrary (9th i believe) which im p sure isnt virgo) how old was willa really when bobo got her? what is the real age difference between the earps? cause the headstones and the verbal retelling say different things. i like history and this show includes a lot of history. so i chose history. technically you can choose anything you want. thats the fun thing that comes with headcanons. you can construct the narrative any way you want. i happen to be a nerd who likes to try and figure everything out on my own, so i went for what seemed to be the most practical way for myself to try and guess at some answers and fill in some gaps. you can use whatever logical method you have to answer these questions, unless you’re trying to tell me that i shouldn’t bother guessing at all because no attempts to explain or learn about anything in that universe will be based in entirely logical and accurate frameworks and facts.
and while i appreciate the thought, i was aware of wyatt earp’s history. him not having children is kinda a big thing you notice if you look up his family tree. if you want proof of my doing historical research for my framework, here’s the post where i talk about wyatt earp and also his wives and why i came to the conclusion that Sade/Josie was likely the mother of his children in the show.
that post is literally the first time the earps being Jewish occurred to me. I didnt construct an identity for them and then create a backstory to apply it. i just filled in a backstory to the best of my ability with as much accuracy in the realm of my framework as I could, and the identity came naturally as a part of that. i think that the earps being Jewish is a good thing that fits in the universe and that it would be interesting and could be good storytelling to explore in fics, headcanons, meta, and the show. im not actually forcing anyone to believe this if they dont want to. i know that the “PSA” thing may sound like it, but honestly i dont give a flying fuck what anyone else wants to believe. id like people to think about it, and id like the idea to get out to more people, and id love to see more of it and talk about it. but if no one else wants in, ill be over here on my Jewish!Earps boat by myself.
and as for the sign of the cross thing, that can easily be a cultural thing. as i said earlier, i dont think ward was big on teaching anything that wasnt alcoholism or violence so im not sure that wynonna and waverly would be raised knowing a lot about their heritage or their religion. and yet another thing that makes a kid different in a small town like purgatory where you’re already known as the crazy family with the bad seed adn the freaky genius sisters? itd be easier to just do what all the other kids are doing. half the people i know that do the sign of the cross in moments like that do it out of habit, they pick it up from family or church or school. the other half are truly religious people. given what we’ve seen of the earp sisters they don’t strike me as devote, religious catholics. waverly as we know is the type of person who spent years changing herself to fit in with everyone else and find connections to people (like in an emotion way, not a business way)
as for your question about similar gestures in Judaism, i am unfortunately not an expert in Judaism. I was raised protestant, then went to a catholic school in a Very Catholic area for over a decade. i know more about catholicism than Judaism. from what research i did i couldn’t find anything that stood out as similar to the catholic sign of the cross gesture. id be open to being corrected by Jewish people who have a better answer/experience.
i think waverly would be interested in researching to find out more about that part of her heritage, but that doesnt erase years of habit. wynonna i think would be uninterested in religion or culture really, even her own. she’d like listening to waverly though and she’d be willing to help waverly when waverly wants/needs it. so any real evidence i think that the earps would show of their heritage and religion would be learned and started later in life, as well as not being their primary instinct (at least when compared to what they picked up from exposure. like the sign of the cross)
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