#jesus vs thor

[theycallmejeezycreezy]

Thor is still mad you didn't fight him :/

Give me his @. I’m not feeling so ‘peace and love’ today.

[mrsoftthoughts]

This is extremely dumb and it shouldn't be taked with any kind of seriousness, despite being something i dont like because it makes a extremely messy world building and i feel that monotheistic and polytheistic Pantheons couldn't coexist so easily, is canon that any religion exist/existed in the riordanverse a by extend jesus is probably just as any religious figure here and bla bla bla, the boring part

BUT-

We know that hades has a type for womans whose names is sort variation of 'Mary' ( Maria di Angelo and Marie Levesque being two of his lovers and Mothers of his kids) soo... You know what im about to say right?

What if if instead of zeus ( that is the most common option for this) the one that was in Nazareth and turned into a fucking dove was hades, and jesus just was just a Greek demigod son of hades?? I dare to say that we can even cast Thanatos as the archangel Gabriel

What if the reason why jesus never showed up to the duel vs thor is because hes just a soul in the middle of elsyum?? If you ask me, it would be hilarious

[maxknightley]

"Helen Parr is [...] not even in the top ten hottest cartoon superheroines,"

Okay, well, now we wanna see your Top 10.

10. Tricolour from Freedom Force vs. The Third Reich. see? I can be kind to the French.

9. this is a normie pick but Power Girl.

8. Barbara Gordon as Oracle specifically. she's also hot in batman beyond but is disqualified for being a cop.

7. Kate Bishop as Hawkeye.

6. Jubilee

5. Spider-Woman, specifically Jessica Drew, specifically ultimate Jessica Drew OR across the spider-verse Jessica Drew.

4. Venom isn't a girl but she's a girl to me. oh wait there's a She-Venom? (looks up what her whole deal is) jesus christ. fuck comics.

3. Mount Lady

2. Big Barda

1. SHE-HULK

honorable mentions go to Black Cat, Catwoman, and Harley Quinn (I dunno if it would be right to count them as "superheroes" given their whole thing is going back and forth between antihero and supervillain), Jane Foster as Thor, Thor Girl, and Wonder Woman (who I'm surprised didn't make the top ten but the numbers don't lie). also Xena if Xena counts.

[megashadowdragon]

Thematically, Lu Bu would've been a better opponent for Beelzebub than Tesla

www . reddit . com/r/ShuumatsuNoValkyrie/comments/1ed3p9p/thematically_lu_bu_wouldve_been_a_better_opponent/

Seriously they are so similar it's not even funny

-Both were born cursed and nobody wanted to associate with them because of it, save for 2 guys (Lu Shang, Lucifer, and the other 2 bozos from Beelzebub backstory but let's be honest Lucifer is the one that matters)

-Those that did associate with them, ended up dying (in the same pose and place mind you) due to the already mentioned curse, which led both Lu Bu and Beelzebub to the path of their lives (Finding a friend and revenge against Satan)

-In the middle of their lonely quest, they find an ally (Dung Zhou and Lilith) and while they are both reluctant at first to associate with them they both agree to after they offer help in their quests and, with time, they form a bond which ends their lonely lives

-...or at least it should have, because at that moment both finally learn the painful truth (There was never a worthy opponent for Lu Bu on earth and Beelzebub is Satan) after killing their partners (in the same way, mind you)

-This leads both of them to fall into despair and search for death, which would finally fulfill their goal (Lu Bu can now find a strong opponent in heaven and Beelzebub would get "revenge" on the one that killed his friends)

And this is just their lives stories, in terms of fighting dynamic.

-Beelzebub wants to die a horrifying and brutal death and Lu Bu is the perfect opponent for that since he is the most brutal and barbaric Human while Beelzebub is certainly strong enough to be recognized by Lu Bu as his worthy opponent

-Beelzebub is said to have the strongest Spear and the strongest Shield, Sky Piercer is also said to be the strongest spear and it has the Shield Breaking ability

Honestly if it wasn't for all the lighthing moments on the Lu Bu spin off I would say Beelzebub is better than Thor for Lu Bu aswell

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Even Lu Bu's spear is a perfect counter to Beelzebub's vibration shield due to its ability to break defenses!

Not exactly, one was cursed with immense strength that everyone feared and revered at the same time creating enemies and allied all around him. That guy is looking for an equal match. The other was cursed of being host to a sinister entity that kills all who as much as stand close to him. He was finding a means to die or find ways to rid of his curse. One sees his strength as boredom and the other sees his curse as a burden. Theyre different.

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u/The_Mexican_Poster avatar The_Mexican_Poster OP • 5d ago Jesus The point is not that they have the same curse, the point is that their respective curses led them to have a lonely life

Lu Bu's strength is a burden in its way, while Beelzebub can't love anyone without them dying, Lu Bu can't love anyone at all because nobody understands him "I have no interest in weak people, and everyone in this world is weak but me"

What is supposedly the link between Tesla and Beelzebub?

That they are both scientists? That is not reflected in any way during the fight.

That one is optimistic and the other is pessimistic? It's not something unique to these two.

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u/casualredditor43 avatar casualredditor43 • 5d ago Garlic Tesla Science to destroy vs science to further and create.

Never ending despair vs never ending hope.

Also,

That they are both scientists? Thats not reflected in any way.

No, non, nein! They had civil discussion about each others technology!

Not unique.

Nah, not many are pessimistic. "Oh but R4" jack was taking clear joy in it and heracles eventually also loved him.

R8 AGENDA WILL NEVER CEEEEEAAAAAAASE!

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Destruction vs creation ?

Consumed by the past vs projecting toward the future ?

[tf2heritageposts]

Now I’m wondering what it would be like to watch deities or gods from their respective religions and beliefs fight in a wrestling ring.

i don’t know but i want thor vs jesus right the fuck now

[ask-paradox-and-friends]

More random hijinks.

(Shipping/funny stuff)

Bun:I mean I'm sure you would've forgotten to wake up early and meet me so I could introduce you to my classmates...

Darque:wouldn't have forgotten of you were with me. (Someone talked her into flirting with him)

Bun:I mean look at...*remembers what she siad and trying to gather his composure* jeezus. Look guys! This is Darque.

Mineta:*remembers the collar bun has under his shirt.*...so she doms?

Bun:*pulls bright red sandle from..somewhere.* I will send your ass to Jesus.

(Cobtext the god of war verse.)

How hiemdall sees it go:*sunblood swinging maddly as he expertly dodges everything and mocks the false god.*

How it REALLY went:*sunblood merging with his Völundr partner and Rhythmscale which leads all 3 of them getting mad grabbing his neck and chokeslam the god into a crystal wall.*

*Kaito in the next room with his siblings*:*heard all of it.*

Emiko(youngest sister):to be fair father and mother have said worse.

Akiri (eldest sister):to qoute mom. 'Hey now. We loved it and you lovely babies were born into the world.'

Hakari (older bro):yeah..but we all heard them...the amount of times I've heard 'Big boy' is worrying....

Kaito:*instant regrets.*

Paradox:*sees thrud talking about someone she knew.* Huh? Who's that?

Thrud:a man mother thought would marry me....he said no.

Paradox:he said no? To you?

Thrud:yeah he said that women like me need a monster to marry them..like that Mitsuri girl could only marry an animal..

Paradox:...hey Baby. *hands a box that's labeled 'to Thor and Sif* drop this off to your parents please?

Thrud:*leaves to do so*

Paradox:*grabs an old hunting bow he has*

Mook:*wandering his home and almost gets hit with an arrow.* AHHHH WHAT THE HELL?

Arrow's note:'I seee you ♡ let's play a game! It's a version of dogeball!'

*Paradox spent 2 hours shooting arrows at his house.*

Darque belongs to @splatoonfan88

Rythemscale belongs to @shadrax-official

[uniquetyphoonmiracle]

..y THE RAIN tiene toda la pintada de convertir a MADRID o la capital del ANTICRISTO en un MANZANA+eRES DESBORDADO como el día de SAN JUAN BAUTISTA 95 que suspendió la FINAL DE COPA DEL REY en el BERNABEU por una TORMENTA DE GRANIZO que hizo CORRER A LOS VESTUARIOS al VALENCIA y RC DEPORTIVO A CORUÑA donde casi se AHOGAN..reanudando el partido 3 días después con Gol de la VICTORIA de ALFREDO SANTAELENA [madre del emperador Constantino fundador del VATICANO al encontrar la CRUZ DE CRISTO bajo el templo de VENUS de JERUSALEM] AGUADO [ESTROPEADO CON AGUA]..que también dio la VICTORIA AL AT MADRID en el BERNABEU en la FINAL DE COPA DEL REY vs MALLORCA Isla donde CASA REAL atracaba su yate FORTUNA

Por cierto..a Alfredo SANTAELENA AGUADO le fotografie como a JESUS GIL en la TV del bar SAN ELOY donde me fotografie con Joaquín CAPARROS nacido en UTRERA como malogrado REYES [tenía una VIRGEN PINTADA EN el techo de su habitacion] y de donde es el grupo LOS MUERTOS DE CRISTO..el cual hizo debutar a JESUS NAVAS [el más viejo en jugar con ESPAÑA], al malogrado Antonio PUERTA [que con 22 años tenía embarazada a su novia de 42 años que fue al funeral con camiseta de GSUS=JESUS] y al de CAMAS Sergio RAMOS el que más jugo con ESPAÑA y más expulsado de LA LIGA..y llevaba la camiseta de MIGHTY de THOR

Por cierto..RAMON VALLE_INCLAN hijo del Ex_presidente de TABACALERA MIGUEL ANGEL y TATARANIETO del ESCRITOR del ESPERPENTO [=ALGO RIDICULO Y ABSURDO]..me dijo que se encontró a CAPARROS en la disco GARAMOND cuando era entrenador de ATH BILBAO..luego le echaron del NEUCHATEL XAMAX a punta de PISTOLA..su nombre completo es JOAQUIN DE JESUS CAPARROS CAMINO

[the-firebird69]

6x6 Hellcat Powered Humvee 🤯

we use this john r makes fun of our ideas. all of them and his ruin his own and himself. he is dangerous but not up to par with macs and fialed. badly now he grabs at people as he goes down.  and falls fu lly. we need him out of here and it is yes aggrevating. hwere he says he will nab them modify and to go after regular people.  we use it on him now.  and we take his down fully.  they are ereting walls globally now and at 50% of all cities and towns and they do stop them.  cold.  these are dead soon.  fully.  gas is used in many nations and it is authorized due to their plan for earth and ye s the meg caverns they re outlawwed from there.  all of them and from all caverns soon all of the underworld.  we do this shortly.  pull it all out.  and use them for labor.  and ifre them often as they did ours. and we use the psuedo empire and empire as insulation as they did us. perfection.  now we do it.  now too.

Thor Freya

Olympus

Zues Hera

you dont have the gutts to fight me and have and won a lot and you were broken he says and were not suppsoed to at all. and now he says i lose tons of fights vs him and instigte more now i die.  and do of cancer lost the fight i demanded. and im walkig dead.  sure am. good. id ie good

trump

you deserve it scum

Zues

you do your shit john r

zhera

jesus crhist this shit cost us and lets get him get him out and yes trump out now

mac daddy

[sithwitch13]

Forbidden Door 6/30/24

Amanda and Negative One, I'm gonna cry

Ooh, Serpentico? I didn't know we were getting Serpentico!

Newly beltless Kyle Fletcher cheering himself up by destroying SNAKEMAN

Roddy, grabbing Gabe Kidd in an aggressive hug: "LOOK AT MY NEW FRIEND, ISN'T HE SO COOL, UNLIKE A CERTAIN BABY SEAL BOY"

KOR, chilling with the Conglomeration plus Ishii and Willow: "Sorry, did you say something? We were busy making friendship bracelets."

BARK-OFF

STAT TIME AND ALSO STOKELY AND MOMO WATANABE

WILLOW TIME AND ALSO TAM NAKANO

Forming a conspiracy board because Tam and Momo are wearing contrasting colors while Kris and Willow are wearing the same color.

Oh my god Toni's ringside outfit

YEAH MARIAH

And here's Mina to keep the love triangle going

LIJ, you are so adorable

Aww, Alex's face paint

Aaaaaa it's time

So is the crowdsurfing a reference to Cody, Punk, both, or neither? I'm good either way

Is it just me or does MJF not have his usual dogshit spray tan?

LOL Kenny's face blurred

Double LOL they called Okada the Best Bout Machine

Okay gremlins let's see how cunty you're feeling tonight

Reasonably, excellent

Oooh Okada is very shiny tonight

Dying at Nick and Okada doing Antics

God I love these horrible little scamps

Dragon vs Dragon time!

Ah, it's the time of the match where Danielson tries to give us all a heart attack

EVERYONE SHUT UP IT'S TIME FOR THE SAPPHIC LOVE TRIANGLE

Oh my god Toni lol

Mariah's beautiful face acting, she's so amazing and the absolute heart of this story

Mariah: "now kiss"

TEAM POLYCULE WINS

THE HORNINESS CONTINUES WITH OC VS ZSJ

Black Glasses Dark Jeans Orange

Thank you Tony Khan and Hiroshi Tanahashi for your gift of squirming men

Is my brain failing more than usual or was this supposed to be a Zero Hour match?

I have been informed it was always a main card match and now I am sad

Aww, yay for Hook

This is the most "whoever wins, I win" match of the night for me

Ladder matches always make me nervous since every time I try to use a ladder I injure myself

ELP nipple attack, congrats to us all!

OW FUCK JESUS

Don't mind me, I'm just sitting here screaming "PLEASE BE CAREFUL" every 30 seconds

:3

Stephanie's whole look is reminding me of Hela from Thor: Ragnarok and I'm here for it

I have no good occasion to do eye makeup like Mercedes' but I really really want to. Maybe just for sitting around and playing video games.

Holy shit Stephanie's dragon screw is brutal

BRITT

SHOW IN JAPAN I'M GOING TO DIE

Mox vs Naito time!

Oh good they didn't make Taz or Nigel leave when JR came in

Oh shit yes and the Death Rider theme

RED SHOES

Mox why are you not wearing the NJPW shorts

Please stop saying "tran-KWEE-low," it's pronounced "tran-KEE-loh"

Mox has two gears, Nigel: "violent" and "clumsy puppy"

Aww, grats Naito

MAIN EVENT, LET'S GO SWERVE

Garcia watching? HMMMM

I HAVE BEEN SHRIEKING THIS WHOLE TIME OH MY GOD

I may actually be dying

HEAD PATS AAAAA

SWERVE!!!!!!!!!

The forehead kiss

The tears

Fletcher comforting Ospreay

I love everything

[agapesophy]

Honor and justice vs. Individuality

Rough draft scalable virtue of the Individuality

Virtuous people used as weapons against their wishes to be worse than damnable drain honor of Honor as if Jesus mother.can be paid insurance to cheapen my holy mother shorten life or rape of child support as forsaken knew it ain't fruad to free gustation wore even as one set up like military nuke of her snatch Justice do not agree with the idea we can agree to disagree because my disgust worth of insurance is fraud to rape life and worth for anyone.

It curse you fascist fucks belong in prison becuase I will jury tamper as paid federal clown elected to teach Jesus each made into a weapon of military destruction but a clown won't deny a fascist because you are a said of dead who saved.a clown by slandering him with my good god that the police did provoke me to keep it because fraud is a bribe they kept so hell no say a clown because you might have been Jesus Christ who knows a virtue of his death to die to be the one who accidenly hung in brach like clown who see father clown and murder both of us so you can.give bling wrong to next generation because Solomon had bling of gods shit I put in his hand saying anytime the world thought right evil i shit my gold that is crime of the undying shit that the Solomon must believe worthy of the betrayed father and son becuase the Jew did teach the idea you must murder as betrayer because a Tator know their both dead becuase homicide is accident but because the Act of God happens and court is guilty of secular lie a clown has to jury tamper otherwise Allah murder a worm of a judge because Sharif clown too short to be a President has the means of loyalty to handle this becuase an act of God even Thor which is not a greek a God able to teach wrong in a political way but Thor can't his ability to practice teaching is not going to be understood but fascist can't understand Thor either so I might show the idea of why jury tampering is better than a Jew who hate dick any dictator fascist use virtue of Jesus Christ to jury tamper in a military way those powers

but wrong they murder the Virtue of Jesus Christ by using him as weapon because the Fascism is the abuse of none local idealism so respect of my clown power is local idealism that won't use local virtue that the people thought Justice because they know it be wrong because the fascist don't need to be slain byba clown because Thor is Bloodshedding slayer and you show me a judge teeth in a jar and ask that worm if any judge is a judge if pure enough to not bite my self because the ponderance of evidence has huge so why judge the clowns wrong guilty fags we didn't judge you wrong but my jury tampering is to remind you of a clowns way who love fascit way because people are that dumb because look your just as wrong as us jurry tampering judges because that is our job andqqaq so a fascist job is equal wrong and so look j said no church and state because

[grandhotelabyss]

I recommend the pod at the link above, a conversation between Sean Thor Conroe and Matthias Bormuth about Vico and Auerbach. We always need more Auerbach discourse. Bormuth draws a useful distinction between the provisional Auerbach, on the one hand, and the providential Bloch, Lukács, and Brecht in the years after World War I. And when he compares Auerbach to Jesus Christ—! This sent me back to Conroe's Paris Review chronicle of a Newark Philip Roth festival from months back, which I'd missed, and which narrates his first encounter with Bormuth:

He’s a professor from Germany. Out here for a talk he gave the other day. This thing has been going for some days already, apparently. He’s an Auerbach scholar and he tells me that his case, in the book he’s working on, is that Goodbye, Columbus was influenced by Auerbach. The guy came out here, went to Roth’s reading room, his original, personal library, preserved across the hall, and found the Auerbach book, Mimesis: The Representation of Reality in Western Literature, that Roth read around that time; went so far as to find the passages Roth underlined to support his argument.

“Unreal,” I say.

His case is that Goodbye, Columbus is a debate between the ethics of the Old Testament and of Homer. Roth’s narrator has a decision he’s weighing. Either take the Homeric route, go with Brenda, a nice girl, his summer fling, and live the life she leads him on. Running around the track every morning. Living a nice suburban life. “Settling on the nymph island,” I say, which makes his eyes light up.

He looks me over and goes, “You want to sit? Put your backpack down. Get a wine.”

I put my pack down. Get a wine.

“So the other option,” he says, “is to follow the Old Testament. Renounce that life. Take the inner path. The higher calling. Follow God’s call to kill his son—renounce worldly comforts, challenge himself to commit to a life of writing. A path he knows he must take, but that no one else understands.”

“Kierkegaard,” I say.

“Kierkegaard,” he says, eyes ablaze.

Anyway, it's a good pod. For me on Auerbach see here; for me on Goodbye, Columbus, making a similar case but with parochial reference to Hawthorne rather than to Auerbach and Kierkegaard, see here.

[stardust2dust2dust]

[ironmanstan]

Started reading Cantwell's Iron Man run again bc I'm a masochist I guess and I love how even if you try to avoid looking at the terrible characterization of Tony, the plot both forces it into your face and does not work at all.

You have Korvac playing at being Jesus 2.0 vs Tony, who in theory, would maybe add some interesting contrast to this, considering he's Tony "I know gods are real I just don't put my faith in them" Stark.

But instead we get ?? Tony questioning himself and almost believing Korvac is right??

And in theory, this should be a big thing? Or at least something that is dwelled upon. I feel like the weight of this is just brushed over like ooooo the hero is uncertain if he's on the right side ooooo. But the very concept of Tony just, out of the blue questioning if Korvac is right has zero buildup, and he has no reason at all to even be questioning this. Tony isn't stupid, and Korvac has done nothing to even justify this thought crossing Tony's mind.

This plot point doesn't even seem to stand for itself, because in the very next issue it's resolved when Tony is injured. And somehow this is... Enough for him to realize Korvac is just hurting people and thinking himself justified?

This text is so... Meaningless. It resolves nothing, it doesn't acknowledge any sort of internal conflict Tony was going through about Korvac, and resolves him struggling with how other people have been looking down at him when... Him getting hurt by Korvac has nothing to do with that?

Tony Stark got his neck broken and somehow the anger from that got him to overcome being upset at how society views him (When this has never been an issue for his character. His entire life people have viewed him incorrectly and looked down on him starting with Howard instilling Tony's first inner demons into him.) and he's done questioning whether Korvac is.... a god..... when this shouldn't even be causing him strife in the first place..... because he knows gods exist......... he is Friends With Thor..... he just doesn't worship them or put faith in them........... but alright.

(Also I love how fake deep they try to get with all the Jesus imagery when that's all it is. Imagery. It never goes deeper than this and it feels as surface level as it looks so it comes off like a van full of christian conservatives is driving by everytime Korvac and co get any focus in the plot)

[rabbittstewcomics]

Episode 349

Comics:

DC

Justice League 75 by Joshua Williamson, Rafa Sandoval, Jordi Taragona, Matt Herms

Trial of the Amazons 2 by Becky Cloonan, Vita Ayala, Michael Conrad, Stephanie Williams, Joelle Jones, Elena Casagrande, Adriano Melo, Laura Braga, Skylar Patridge, Jordie Bellaire, Romulo Fajardo Jr

Marvel

Amazing Spider-Man 1 by Zeb Wells, John Romita Jr., Scott Hanna, Marcio Menyz

Knights of X 1 by Tini Howard, Bob Quinn, Erick, Arciniega

Marvel Meow 5 by Nao Fuji

Thor 24 (750) by Jason Aaron, Tom DeFalco, Al Ewing, J. Michael Straczynski, Donny Cates, Walt Simonson, Dan Jurgens, Lee Garbett, Olivier Coipel, Ron Frenz, Das Pastoras, Nic Klein, Laura Martin, Matt Wilson, Matt Milla, Antonio Fabela, Alejandro Sanchez

Image

Blood-Stained Teeth 1 by Christian Ward, Patric Reynolds, Heather Moore

Dark Horse

British Paranormal Society: Time Out Of Mind 1 by Chris Roberson, Andrea Mutti, Lee Loughridge

Tentacle Kitty: Tales Around the Teacup

IDW

Godzilla Rivals vs. King Ghidorah 1 by Adam Gorham, E.J. Su

AfterShock

Naughty List 1 by Nick Santora, Lee Ferguson

Heavy Metal

Starward 1 by Steve Orlando, Ivan Shavrin

Bite-Sized Archie OGN by Ron Cacage, Vincent Lovallo

Agents of S.L.A.M. OGN by Dave Scheidt, Heidi Black, Scoot McMahon

Yojimbot by Repos Sylvain

Additional Reviews: Doctor Strange by Donny Cates, Picard 2:9, Moon Knight ep5, Choose or Die, The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent, Samurai Rabbit: The Usagi Chronicles, Batwoman omni, Amphibia, Owl House

News: June is George Perez month at DC, American Jesus Netflix adaptation, El Muerto, Omninews, Zod returns in The Flash movie, The Batman gets a sequel, DC Round Robin finale, Frank Miller and Dan DiDio team up to form a new publisher, Neal Adams, Batwoman is cancelled, Captain Marvel and Ant-Man swap release dates, Watts leaves MCU FF, Legends of Tomorrow cancelled, Wonder Twins movie canceled, DC announced Dark Crisis tie-ins, Image releases Outpost Zero

Comics Countdown:

Rogues 2 Joshua Williamson, Leomacs, Jason Wordie, Mat Lopes

Punisher 2 by Jason Aaron, Jesus Saiz, Paul Azaceta, Dave Stewart

Ghost Cage 2 by Nick Dragotta, Caleb Goellner

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Newburn 6 by Chip Zdarsky, Casey Gilly, Jacob Phillips

TMNT: Last Ronin 5 by Peter Laird, Tom Waltz, Kevin Eastman, Esau Escorza, Ben Bishop, Isaac Escorza, Ronda Pattison, Luis Antonio Delgado, Samuel Plata, Ryan Kinnaird

Justice League 75 by Joshua Williamson, Rafa Sandoval, Jordi Taragona, Matt Herms

Rogue Sun 3 by Ryan Parrott, Abel, Francesco Mortarino, Chris O'Halloran

Dark Knights of Steel 6 by Tom Taylor, Yasmine Putri, Arif Prianto

Swamp Thing 12 by Ram V, Mike Perkins, Mike Spicer

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[blackgirlsuperherorants]

With more articulation, I'm ready to talk about why the push for Lokius simply bothers me, and this can be said for other m/m or w/w ships that fans push to be canon so hard just because they ship it.

It's the framing. The framing that if Marvel doesn't do it (or whatever the brand is), it's because homophobia, and if other fans don't like it/ship it, it's because homophobia (even if they ship other queer ships and are queer themselves.) And the biggest problem with that is that it overshadows the REAL issue of lack of queer representation on screen in mainstream nerd media, especially from big things under the Disney umbrella (Marvel and Lucasfilm/Star Wars, especially.)

It makes it bad that your ship isn't canon instead of bad that there haven't been any queer romances on screen in the MCU.

And like, as a writer myself, I find myself dissecting the stories of other media all the time. I can watch an MCU movie or series and pretty much assess what direction the story is going in by the narrative points they're hitting. I knew Sylki was basically gonna happen (even if just a kiss) because narratively, that's what the show was doing as soon as they had that "what is love" conversation on Lamentis-1. It didn't mean I liked it. But I knew it was happening.

Similarly, there's no romantic undertones to Loki and Mobius. None. For Marvel to make them a couple, it would mean they'd be doing it simply because the two present as men and it would make stans happy. And while there's something to be said for fan service, it would be annoying to watch them cram two guys together who aren't romantic in the slightest. I'd much rather see Loki meet some guy and have the same type of undertones they were giving to Sylvie and form a real bond to where the kiss feels earned and warranted. Not just put him with the nearest man because "he gay lol."

And how you guys are claiming it's being queer that makes you want this is beyond me. It's not being queer that makes you want this. I don't want queer characters that fuck everyone of whatever gender(s) they're attracted to even when it doesn't make sense for them to. I want real love stories. I mean, yeah, sometimes we can have a slut character, because that's fun, too, but that's not even what y'all think Lokius is. You seem to want them to be in love. But why? Because he's the first friend Loki made that isn't through Thor?

I hate that, too, because I hate this idea that queer people cannot have friends of their same gender without wanting to fuck them. IDK how y'all are, maybe y'all are like that, but I almost never have wanted to fuck any of my friends. The only few exceptions have been when I tried to befriend someone I had a crush on (in which case, usually the friendship can't work, really, because I have a crush on them.) I also think it's okay if you can have casual sex with friends, or if you have a friendship that develops into romance, but Jesus, do you people not have friends that you don't want to fuck? I am bi, maybe more pan (gender kind of doesn't matter to me, I guess) and I'm friends with people of all kinds of gender identities and like... I love them as people, which is why they're my friends, but I DO NOT want to fuck them. Especially my closest friend. I talked about her, before, here, but she's like my sister. The thought of fucking her is gross, to me. Not because she's gross, but because it feels incestuous.

Loki shouldn't want to fuck Mobius just because they developed a friendship. And that's very much how it's written on the series. They almost dislike each other (or Mobius is at least indifferent to Loki) and then they become friends.

That's not to mention the power dynamic that exists, there. And I know some of y'all are subs, but yeah, it's a bit gross to imply a sexual relationship with Loki's captor.

But on to Sylki. It sucks that I feel like most of y'all hate Sylki because Sylvie is a girl, and not just because it's bad in other ways. Like, the reasons Sylki is bad have less to do with "it should have been Mobius" and more to do with it being a lazy 1980s action movie plot that should have never happened. I'm not as creeped out by the selfcest (as many of you wouldn't have been if she was a he, I'm almost positive), but what's bad about it is that they couldn't have a strong female lead character without her being the love interest of the main guy. She didn't need to be, especially because she was a Loki variant, anyway. There was no need for it to have romantic undertones, and there was no need for them to kiss. It was sexist more than it was homophobic (and I can't help feeling like y'all are kind of being biphobic in this case. Maybe I'll talk about that, later, but yeah.) It was sexist bullshit. And there's valid criticism that Sylvie is underdeveloped. She's just angry and something for Loki to project affection onto.

I was also hoping they'd do a "found family" type of thing with Sylvie and Loki and let her be like the sister he never knew he needed, but no, they had to go trope and make her the love interest. It was lazy and bad and basically went "If Loki girl, main Loki want bone!"

Basically, having the main character fall for a character just because of their proximity and gender is bad and I hate it (and it would have been bad with Mobius, too, but yeah.)

Both the Mobius and the Sylvie thing also feel kind of racist, to me, because the show has prominent Black women who aren't even presented as desirable to Loki. And y'all, of course, ship him with anyone but the Women of Color. Y'all can pull true love with Mobius out of your ass, but he couldn't possibly fall for the Black women. lol.

Anyway. Not every show needs ships, and this show shouldn't have had any. I hate it. It's bad.

I guess on the biphobia front, I have heard some takes that it's not biphobic because Loki being queer in the MCU which hasn't shown any queer relationships, and Loki being the first openly queer character means they shouldn't have shown him with a woman presenting character. Which, I guess I get where you're coming from... but I have also been in fandoms for a long time and I see mostly girls saying this shit, which is what leads me to feel like it's simply jealousy. It happens all the time when a long-beloved single male character/celebrity suddenly starts dating a woman. Everyone hates it. And like, we haven't seen Loki be with ANYONE in the MCU, because mostly he's been doing villainy and his dating life hasn't been relevant. If the demigod says he's bi, he can kiss a woman. Especially a woman version of himself. Like I said, I hate it for other reasons, but pretending it's because he should have kissed Mobius is utterly delusional. He probably shouldn't have kissed anyone. Not in this series. There was no reason for any canon romance, especially because the show has a season 2 and we'll have time to see Loki develop earned, deserved romance with someone.

I'd much rather see them create a character just to be his boyfriend than have y'all push Marvel into making Lokius canon, which is a nonsense ship that only happened because Mobius is the only prominent male-presenting character before we meet the other Lokis.

My sincere wish is for people to remember that their ships are just ships and to enjoy them without getting all self-righteous about it. I TOLD y'all that Lokius wasn't gonna be canon like 4 episodes back, and here y'all are acting shocked and like Marvel took something from you. NOBODY expected y'all to ship Lokius. It's not even queerbait.

You can make clear arguments as to why Sambucky was queerbait. It's there in undertones in the actual series.

You cannot watch Loki and tell me you thought it was queerbait, unless you think men can't have conversations or hug goodbye without being romantically involved. Which means, in my opinion, that you need to learn about healthy masculinity.

Again, this is not a defense of Marvel. They DO need to let characters be queer, for real, and not just by saying " A bit of both". Like, let Loki be queer. Let Deadpool be queer. Let these queer characters be queer on screen. Yes.

But please stop making it about your ship. I'd rather see a flashback of Loki dating a guy and see him kiss someone he loved back on Asgard than watch y'all force Lokius. Because my queer rep is not about your crackship. It really isn't. And the fact that y'all keep calling us homophobic for not liking your ship REALLY needs to be addressed.

Like, when will y'all stop? I got on Stucky shippers about this shit in the past. All of us gay as hell, too, we just don't like YOUR ship. A lot of us like other queer ships. A lot of us like queer ships in other fandoms, too, and even have queer OCs. YOUR ship just ain't it. Stop forcing it. Literally, most of the ship wars between MCU fans have been queer ship vs queer ship, not really queer ship vs straight ship. Like, the number one Stucky rival ship was Stony. Not Steggy. People are not homophobic for not wanting your ship.

Sometimes it's because they ship something else.

And sometimes, like me, it's because they want something to make sense narratively and not happen for the sake of it happening. It's always better writing to have a character meetcute a new love interest than to magically turn a platonic friendship into a romantic relationship. Like, even when the characters are straight. Like, when Moesha dated Hakeem. It was just weird, even if he was kind of a great boyfriend. He was just supposed to be her friend, and people didn't really like it because it didn't fit narratively.

And that's why ships for the most part should be left to fanfiction, with the exception of a few where fans are right to call out the writers for not making it canon because it's clearly bait (like what happened to Destiel shippers. To see Lokius shippers compare themselves to THAT was so ridiculous. Destiel shippers had a decade of evidence only to be let down by a criminally unfair ending. Lokius shippers saw two men have a deep conversation once and lost their minds.)

Anyway, I'm not saying don't ship Lokius. I don't even hate it, really. I just think it obviously shouldn't be canon, and fans pretending like they were robbed of it is ridiculous. Literally, Ao3 exists for this reason. I will never see Steve fuck Sam Wilson, so I wrote it into my fanfic. I am not mad that they didn't actually date in the main MCU storyline.