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As a devotee of Demeter, I sometimes feel that people only worship Persephone for the aesthetic.
I feel horrible for saying and thinking that but I can't help but feel that way. Certain pagans portray Persephone as some overpowered Mary Sue, downplaying the importance of her mother and sometimes even her husband.
I feel like people really ignore her as a agrarian deity. They claim to love her but feel the need to change everything about her - if you need to change her did you ever like her in the first place?
It honestly just feels like they're talking about a Wattpad main character instead of a religious figure at times it's so jarring to me. Imagine if someone on tiktok described their deity as a dark and daddy figure bad boy with piercings and then its literally just Jesus Christ.
And its not just Persephone, it's the whole pantheon! Some worshippers talk about the deities and their myths like characters and tropes from a telenovela. They are rarely treated like religious figures, they are more than just their myths.
Im sorry i just wanted a place to complain and see if i am not alone
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Khaire, Nonny,
Honestly, I agree with this sentiment. I've seen this time and time again where Persephone, and many other deities, get "fandomized" which can be problematic for others, even if it's ok in that individual's practice. Sometimes it feels like our religion isn't taken seriously, even by the people who actively practice it, but I also understand that people have different forms of practicing that work better for them. It's frustrating, however, when Persephone is depicted as this Mary Sue characterization of her where she's seen as, like, super edgy, badass, and powerful in a really fandomized way. It comes across as this person using Persephone as an avenue of self-expression rather than worshipping who she actually is as a deity (not to say she's not badass or powerful, to clarify). While it's ok to use a deity as an avenue for self-expression in worship (some trans folk, for example, view Apollon as trans-masc, and it actively plays a role in their worship), it's a lot less ok when you're making this deity into a cartoonish characterization of themselves. The gods present themselves differently to people, but I don't know; I guess I find it far-fetched to believe that Persephone would present herself in this sort of way. I can't speak for her, obviously, but I just disagree with this interpretation of who she is as a deity - putting herself above others, hating her mom, being a rebellious "wild child". I think that, psychologically speaking, some people might just find comfort in this representation of her and see themselves in it which is likely why they gravitate towards it. It's fine to have that experience, but I STRONGLY encourage these people to actually read the myths about Persephone, do the research on how she was worshipped, and actively try to better understand where she actually came from as a deity because this isn't just a character in a show that you relate to; this is a goddess that you're trying to worship, no?
Some people finding more success in their practice with this representation doesn't negate the harm these misconceptions and misinformation can cause. I've met multiple people who believe that Persephone willingly fled to the Underworld to "escape" Demeter (which is untrue), and that is endlessly frustrating to me, especially due to the cultural importance of the Hymn to Demeter (the myth of Persephone being kidnapped). The gods are not their myths, in my experience, but their myths still hold a heavy importance in the way they were worshipped in the past, and the way we worship them in the present. Demonizing an entire deity is the equivalent of trying to cancel a constellation of stars; it's pointless, extremely bizarre, and very "online" behavior.
But yeah, I think some people care more about the "character" than they do the deity, and I will say that confidently. I've met people who "ship" deities with each other, who make their experiences with deities sound - as you said - like a telenovela, and who actively spread harmful misinformation about deities in a way that legitimately disgusts and disturbs me. I've once had someone tell me that a deity [insert reprehensibly immoral act here] them, and to this day, I still cannot believe they said that to me when I was a beginner, just to dissuade me from worshipping that deity. The lengths some people will go to drag a deity is honestly both sad and ridiculous.
I wish some people took the religion more seriously in the sense that they didn't just make random shit up about deities, actively disrespect and disregard the culture the deities stem from, and demonize some deities while bolstering others. It shows a level of immaturity and indifference towards the culture these deities come from. It's not a fandom; it's a way of worship.
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✨ Bonus round!! ✨
Some ridiculous things I've heard people say that sound like a fandom and/or telenovela (I will put the phrases in "" to express that these are things I've heard, not things I'm saying or believe in):
"Hermes and Aphrodite constantly gossip to each other about the other gods. No one fucks with Hermes because he knows everyone's dirty laundry."
"Ares is starting a revolution on Mount Olympus against Zeus to take the throne." (Yes, I have really heard this)
"Hermes is starting a revolution on Mount Olympus against Zeus to take the throne." (Yes, I have really heard this, too)
"XYZ deity has done [insert reprehensibly immoral and highly traumatic act here] to me."
"I caught XYZ deity cheating on their spouse in the astral realm, and I'm going to tell their spouse."
"The reason the gods haven't been communicating as much lately is because Hades ran away from Mount Olympus (?) and Hekate is going after him. Everyone is panicking a little bit."
"Zeus is such a playboy." (Bruh, do you really have beef with a thousands of years old god who came from an extremely patriarchal society? What, are you trying to cancel him?)
"Poseidon is such a playboy." (Now this take is wild; I don't really understand where it came from at all)
"Apollo is such an UwU 👉👈 shy boy! He's so cute and flustered all the time." (???)
"Persephone has a lot of emotional trauma from Demeter, who was extremely controlling." (No. No for so, so many reasons.)
"Apollo is a himbo."
People say the darnedest things. You really have to wonder what possesses someone to talk about religious figures in such a way, but you know what, if it works for their practice, then good for them. I'm not a big fan of the fandomization of the gods, and I definitely agree with you, Nonny. I won't say these people don't love these deities, but I can understand where you're coming from. It feels like they love the deities in an obsessive fan type of way sometimes, but that's not for me to say, really.
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Round 1 - Side A
Propaganda below ⬇️
Ky Kiske
He named his son sin. Has Catholic guilt™ about his wife, because she's this monster thing he's supposed to destroy, but eventually it's fine.
He fucked the baddest bitch of all time who was more powerful than a nuclear bomb and decided that was so against his religion he named the child he had with her Sin
He had a child out of wedlock, named him “Sin” and immediately left him in the care of his archrival.
ky kiske rules he loves his wife so much he decided to end racism and he swapped one of his son's eyeballs with his own so he wouldn't experience racism and hes canonically a trans ally
Please hes literallg roman catholic he always has a cross somewhere on his outfit and everything. “What God ordains and wishes for… The order of the world! THAT is justice!!“ -Ky kiske
Shadow
In sonic destruction (the AI generated fan thing snapcube made a while ago) shadow was catholic or something which I think is reallyyyyyyy funny
Ok listen. I know this is a stretch but hear me out. He says “oh my God” in the Twitter takeovers so we know this is a possibility. I see him as a Christ-like figure because I saw his whole confrontation with Mephiles and was like “this is a thing that happened in the Bible??” and the pose Mephiles shows him in is literally like a crucifixion and Mephiles is meant to be a demon / false prophet reference. And also he’s called a demon in Shadow The Hedgehog 2005 then the guy who calls him that is like “I was wrong I’m sorry” and that also reminds me of a thing with Jesus in The Bible. But the biggest reason is his whole thing with Maria cause I think he’d come to earth and hear Ave Maria once and convert to Catholicism idk he’s like we’re comforted by a female familial figure named Mary sometimes called Maria?? And her color is blue????? Heck yeah I’m in because I Will Cry. Also feel free to share this as propaganda obv even if he doesn’t get in the bracket just. It’s funny.
I feel like he’d battle a lot with being seen or portrayed as a demon and how the aliens he’s related to very much look and act like demons idk lmao- and also I feel like confession would just be good for him I think he needs it for his mental health
There is a debate on the lovely website tunblr that Shadow T. Hedgehog is an allegory for Jesus Christ.
He is Jesus, idk what to tell you. He lived, he was sealed away, he was awakened again and deemed the ultimate lifeforms, he's angry but not evil, does what he believes is best for people and the world at any given time. Total loser.
#HE NAMED HIS SON SIN!?#Ky Kiske#guilty gear#shadow the hedgehog#sonic the hedgehog#cct polls#tumblr tournament#tumblr bracket#tumblr polls
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i honestly think h***y p****r has completely ruined people's ideas of worldbuilding and magic systems for the worse. There are people saying 'death of the author!!!11' but that literally doesn't apply to this franchise. Not only that but jesus the way the author said "all of magical society was created to await the arrival of the chosen one, picked between two cisallohet, abled, white, culturally christian upper middle class boys. No one else is allowed to be the chosen one. The chosen one is a cis boy who goes into girls toilets and is rewarded for it haha isn't he quirky and totally not creepy, it's fine since it's to advance the plot; he had to go into the girls toilets! Trans girls aren't allowed there though, but cis male leads are. Ordinary nonmagical society sucks and we only use magic for ourselves, we don't help anyone with bigotry and are pretty racist ourselves. There is also antisemitic caricatures in this world but i'm a woman so it's ok. I'm making sports teams into dorm rooms with your MBTI personality type btw" and we all fell for it?!?! Us, who live in ordinary society, fell for this?? insane. thank god people are moving away from it.
Not to mention the fact that said author uses woc (the Patil twins, and Cho) as placeholders for our cishet yt boy protagonist before he realises he's in love with the white cool girl, using lycanthropy as an HIV metaphor (seriously, what the hell?), AND making the nosy journalist who spies on children a transphobic caricature.
It's so interesting how Rowling preaches female empowerment when she only really cares about which girls make their love interests look good.
I also think that this whole "death of author" thing doesn't apply to Rowling, because not only is she alive and well, but she is quite literally giving money to terfs and transphobes. She is out here bullying trans people online who never did anything to hurt her. How can you even think about separating the art from the artist, when the artist is doing shit like this?
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a garden of flowers
– in which yn gets a special tattoo !!
𝐏𝐀𝐈𝐑𝐈𝐍𝐆 | hwang hyunjin x gender-neutral reader
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“hi. i heard you do specific tattooing.” you smile at the employer. he looks up at you, tattoos decorating his muscular arms and fingers, pierced nose and lip with a stretched ear. he smiles at you warmly and nods.
“that's us! each employee does specific art and tattooing as well as piercings. anything you want in particular?”
“i don't have an idea for the design per say but i have a relatively big scar that i want incorporated into the tattoo.”
the employee hums and nods as he listens to you, soaking up all the information. his curly hair falling in front of his eyes which causes him to have to push his hair back every five seconds, revealing an eyebrow piercing and a small face tattoo above the brow that you didn't notice at first glance.
“and where is the scar, if i might ask?”
“my chest.”
“ok! we have the perfect employee for that. give me a sec.” you nod, thanking him as you watch him walk to the back room, jumping as his loud voice bellows out through the store.
“hyunjin! customer for ya!!”
“jesus changbin! do you have to shout?” the man named hyunjin comes out of the back room, rubbing his temples. hair long and dyed black with streaks of red. half up, half down. eyeliner lining his lower water line, septum pierced and a few tattoos dotted on his skin. “you're going to scare the customers.”
“please. they love it when i shout.” changbin smirks and winks cheekily, causing hyunjin to blush faintly and gently push him. “and i know you do too. you love it when i’m vocal.”
“fuck you, binnie.”
“you wish.”
hyunjin rolls his eyes before approaching you. he clears his throat before extending out his hand to shake.
“hello. i'm hyunjin.”
“hey hyunjin. i'm yn.”
“so yn, tell me about this tattoo design?”
“well, i don't have an idea per day but i do have a scar across my chest that i want to incorporate.” hyunjin nods.
“well, you've come to the right store. i specialize in tattoos that are centred around scars whether that be cover ups or something else. if you don't mind, i would like to brainstorm some ideas with you and do a few doodles.”
“sounds perfect!” you grin.
“great. right this way.”
hyunjin and you spend an hour or so brainstorming ideas. you showed him your chest scar, specifically telling hyunjin what you’ve visioned, however, you want the end design to be a surprise to you. you were a little worried about showing hyunjin your scar but, much to your relief, he didn't judge. in fact, it seemed like he didn't care at all.
“can i ask you a personal question?” hyunjin asks as he drags the tattoo needle along your chest. you wince a little in pain, taking a few deep breaths before speaking.
“go ahead.” hyunjin wipes away the ink with some tissue before returning back to tracing the outline.
“how did you get this scar?”
“top surgery.”
“oh! i see. how was that?”
“fucking scary but so so worth it.”
“oh really?”
“yes. to wake up from surgery to look down and see that my boobs have gone, was a huge relief to me.”
“how was it? the whole process and whatnot?”
“lonely.”
“lonely? why?” hyunjin's eyebrows furrow together.
“ever since i told my friends and family that i'm transgender, they just left.”
“that's pretty shitty of them.”
“well, people fear what they don't know. knowledge is power and when people are met with something that's unknown or unfamiliar to them, they run away in fear because they don't understand. i would have happily educated them but… yeah.”
“how did you know that you’re trans? sorry if this is too personal by the way. please stop me if i'm overstepping.” you laugh softly and shake your head.
“no, it's ok. honestly, i wish more people like you would ask.” you look up at the ceiling as hyunjin tattoos you. “i guess i've always known from such an early age but because i was young, i didn't understand why i wasn't like all the other girls that were interested in dolls and make-up and disney princesses.”
“what were you interested in?”
“the standard boy stuff. diy, football, mud, eating worms. i liked shorts and t-shirts, not dresses and ballet shoes. as i got older though, i understood a lot more. told my parents and they told me it was just a phase. well, they made me believe it was just a phase.”
“fuck. that's rough..”
“well, the whole process has been rough. months and months of waiting to be seen by doctors. appointments after appointments. a huge waiting list just for T. and to top it off, mental health issues.”
“i assume knowing you're in the wrong body fucks with your mind; to put it politely of course.” you laugh and nod your head.
“pretty much, yes. looking in the mirror and seeing that my hair and face was changing, y'know facial hair and my voice getting deeper was good but then when i strip naked, look down and see i have boobs and a vagina, it's just heartbreaking. it takes a toll on your mind.”
“why do you want me to incorporate the scar instead of covering it?”
“because i'm not ashamed of it. it's part of my journey. i want to show it off and, even though i do miss my breasts in a weird way, i'm proud of myself for making it this far and for being strong. i'll never be ashamed or hide who i am now because i've spent years hiding and feeling ashamed.”
“i like you yn. you're strong and know what you want in life.”
“thank you, hyunjin. it means a lot to me.” you smile softly at him as he grins at you, eyes crinkling at the corners.
“so, are you done now? with your breasts gone and whatnot?”
“maybe. maybe not. i've been debating about bottom surgery but it costs twice as much as top and well, it's a whole new thing to get used to. i'm completely transforming my intimate area for something new and unknown. in a way, yes i do want bottom surgery but i know i'll be alone during the process.”
“i'll come with you.”
“what..?”
“i'll come with you. i'll hold your hand and be there for you, whether you decide to do it or not.”
“hyunjin, we barely know each other. you're a tattoo artist that’s tattooing my chest.”
“ok. and? i like you yn. platonically of course however, i can't deny this strong connection that pulls me to you. hearing your story, i want to protect you and be the friend that you've always wanted and deserved. you shouldn't have to face something that's this big alone.”
“it's just surgery, hyunjin..”
“yes but it's a major thing to you so you deserve to have someone there by your side. to have a familiar face to wake up to.”
“and if i don't decide on the surgery?”
“then i still want to be that familiar face to wake up to.”
“hyunjin, i–”
“look–” hyunjin turns the tattooing machine off and looks at you. “whether you decide to get bottom surgery or not doesn't make you any less of a person. you're still you and you should look back on all the great achievements and be proud. masculinity shouldn't tackle or dominate you, you dominate masculinity besides, gender is fluid these days so be what you want to be. just as long as you are happy, healthy and comfortable then who gives a shit.”
tears roll down your cheeks slowly. you wipe them away with the back of your hand as you sniffle, hyunjin smiling softly at you before finishing up the tattoo.
“thank you.. i needed that.”
“we all need that extra love, regardless.”
a comfortable silence falls upon you both. the buzzing sound of the machine tattooing your skin being the only thing ringing in your ears. one hour later and hyunjin turns off the machine before gently wiping the extra ink off your skin.
“ready! want to see it?”
“fuck yes!” hyunjin laughs before standing up. you follow suit, following him to the full length mirror.
you gasp in awe and shock as you look at your new chest tattoo. flowers of various shapes and sizes decorated in a line along your scar. butterflies and bees for that extra touch and design.
“holy fuck.. thank you. thank you so so much hyunjin. i love it.” tears well in your eyes before falling down your cheeks. hyunjin laughs softly, his own eyes welling up.
“ah fuck, now you've got me started.” you both laugh as you wipe away tears. hyunjin wraps up your chest tattoo and tells you about aftercare.
as you gather your belongings and walk to the door, you turn on your heel and give hyunjin a gentle and genuine smile
“thank you for today, hyunjin. it's nice to know i have someone to lean on in the future.”
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ok girl. pitch me the silt verses. why should i listen to it. go crazy.
(i trust you because in your other hand you have tlt.)
yippee time to yap about my favorite audio drama, okay okay okay listen so the silt verses are a completed audio-drama (3 seasons, 45 episodes (i myself am on ep. 34 rn)) that starts with two cultists, Sister Carpenter (all-around tired, angry at the world, was born into the church but is losing her faith rn) and Brother Faulkner (a young convert who believes fervently and perhaps thinks himself a prophet) on a road trip— i mean a holy pilgrimage. Cause they are both followers of an illegal river god. And yes this modernish world is chuck full of gods who have a direct influence on the world, and the government basically decides who it is legal to worship or not. The worship in question involves chill and casual human sacrifices and horrific transfigurations (if you like body horror, this is the podcast for u). In fact in the setting people design, develop, commercialize and weaponize gods all the fucking time, so really interesting world-building stuff, seriously i love it here. Not gonna go into the plot progression, but it starts out great and gets better and better with every season, i am on season 3 and just constantly blown away.
The writing all in all is really spectacular, sound design is top notch, voice acting is straight up Insane, like there is quality!! Character interactions are to die for, seriously very dynamic, very entertaining. Btw if you love complicated messy very true sibling dynamics, set up camp right here. Also id say pretty good and fun balance between grim tones of a greek tragedy waiting to happen and insanely funny moments and situations (though im in season 3 and it’s mostly grim somebody send help). And the themes!! The themes! The interconnection between hopelessness and hope, the painful difference between a faith and a religion, horrors of capitalism, tragedy and stupidity of war and sm other good stuff. Character cast grows w the progression of the story, we see different places, different perspectives, so really a lot to dig your teeth into, can recommend!!
Also diversity win! We have an aromantic legend of the cult who is trying so so hard to divorce god, our doomed false prophet of the river is trans, there is a transwoman who is basically jesus if jesus went from marketing job to anarchism, and we have non-binary people from politicians to cultists to literal god-killers—
To a normal person id make a little disclaimer that it might be a bit disorienting a couple of first episodes cause there isnt much exposition from the top but as for a fellow tlt fan i know you have nothing to fear, we went through so much more confusing things during harrow and nona the ninth…
So if you do decide to give it a listen, plsss tell me what you think, tlt is my Favorite Thing Ever and tsv is my Also Favorite Thing Ever
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UPDATEEEEE
I've made it to season four so here's an updated log of the Magnus archives thingy mubob (this contains spoilers :3.)
Oh the pig no no like you sir
Oh god I guess this pig is a weird thing
THE CIRCUS?
Oh god not more circuses
Oh dear I think the pig has decided to eat clowns now
Oh self cannibalism
Whelp the pig ate someone
Loud sound
The eyes doing it's thing
JOHN DOING THE THING WITH THE EYE
Tim keeps scaring people
Tims not ok
OMG TIM STATEMENT
Tims brother went missing
I don't think it's Tim's brother
Whelp he's gone
Oh clowns know
OH DEAR CLOWNS
I don't think that's your brother Tim
Oh blood
Oh dead clown
Oh no more skin .
Oh famous clown
Tim and Elias drama
Oh we're in China
Oh creepy opening
I wonder. Is this in Chinese? I know that the eye can allow you to read other languages in order to obtain more knowledge. Even if you never spoke that language or were able to read it you just suddenly are able to.
Oh screams
Nevermind I'm pretty sure it's in English cause it seems the person writing it is a British soldier
Does he have the black plague?
OH DEAD BODYS IN THE WATER
Oh-
This is a sad man
“True and total war”
GOD DAMMIT NO CIRCUS
HE CAN READ MANDARIN AND AND CHINESE NOW (cause of the eye)
IT WAS FROM 2004 NOT 2014
Oh the proper one's are in America
Space station time
I wonder if this is the same space station as the one Gertrude read
I think she kept talking about it in one of the statements well more specifically the guy who it is from
We love Melanie (even though she keeps trying to kill Elias but she has a good reason)
FAIRCHILD IS BACK
IT IS THE SAME SPACESHIP BUT JUST A DIFFERENT GUY
Because the one Gertrude read was the isolation guy. This is about the other two people who were on the ship
Oh god the space weird space hands are back I think
Oh blood
Oh he's bleeding
Oh god he's just going to let himself die
Old screaming things
Don't envy the isolation guy he had a really shit time
Whelp now he's in limbo space
OH SOMETHING'S BLOCKING THE STARS
Oh deep thoughts
Melanie is thinking deep
She's skeptical of stuff
Oh dear
IS HE STUCK IN SPACE
Viscera I think is how to pronounce her name?
MARTIN HAS A CRUSH ON JOHN?
Viscera and Melanie are gossiping and I'm here for it
Oh performance review
OH GOD ELIAS
JESUS CHRIST ELIAS STOP LEAVE POOR MELIAINE ALONE
WHAT DID HE DIE OF
WHY DID YOU GIVE HER THE KNOWLEDGE OF HIM DYING
THAT'S TERRIFYING
He can just make her watch her dad's death!
I want texas toast I'm going to go make some
JOHNS IN AMERICA
Whelp he's being followed by a police officer
And Jared's “death”
GERTRUD WAS ARRESTED FOR BREAKING INTO A MORGUE
He just has to read statements to make him feel better
A screaming oven lovely
OH THERE'S A FIRE
OH A TRAINS ON FIRE
What do you mean you'd burn them?
John is better!
OH SHIT IT'S THE POLICE
WHAT IS THAT ACCENT
OH MY GOD ITS THE VAMPIRE HUNTER
YIPPEE MARTIN
I fucking hate Shakespeare
Lovely more masks
Poor Tim
And Melanie
AWW
OH SHIT
SOMETHINGS HAPPENING
PETER LUCAS IS BACK
Lucas seams so silly
Viscera gets really excited about her reading and I love that about her
Mmm more statements
I'm pretty sure John just asked for a statement because he was starting to feel sick lol
MORE VAMPIRES (I think) YIPPEE
His accent is kinda hard to understand
BODYS IN BOX
Spoopy people
Love how she calls the vampire hunter old man
Oh bodys on table
Silent screamers
OH WATER
Staby stab
Oh she killed him
OH SPOOKY THING
HAHAH DOLL THING (why is his voice kinda-)
More Marten :3
This girl sounds like an asshole
THIS PERSONS TRANS TDZSDHUGDZ
That is a long ass name
“Spiders are eating” PFF
Oh don't walk into people's jaws
Mmm Japanese spider movies
YOU HAD TO TRY AND CONVINCE YOURSELF HE ONLY HAD TWO ARMS
Oh spoopy
Oh they found A Way to distract Elias
A leitner?
JARED
Jared is cool
Jared's mom was an ass
Hmmm more things to kill and torture everyone
I keep forgetting meat is in this
Jared is so sad
MURDER
YIPPEE VISCERA
We're back in America and they found a bomb and the taxidermy or what's left of it
John and Tim drama
YIPPEE TIM A JOHN ARE OK
Oh tunnels
Bomb time
The meats back
LITENER
No more arm
And now he's in the water
PFFF
HELEN
Aww
YIPPEE SPOOPY
Meeting timeee
Gurtrud tape time
Wolfgang?
Puppets?
I think this is from a older time in europe because of the writing and how it is worded
DON'T GO
Mmm more robotic things
OH GOD A STAGE
Mmm birbs
BLOOD
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU CURL YOUR LEGS INTO A FIST
Funsies
Oh he's being protective of martennnnn
PLANS
SECRET PLANSSS
JOHN STATEMENT HDHJDGKDVJHK
Awww john
ITS LIGHTENERS
Melines to relatable
MELANIE STATEMENT
MARTIN NFSUSSTUDIY
TIMM
Aww goodbye Jarey
mmm masquerade
MARTIN!!
“sorry Elias I can't hear you there's a DOOR in the way” I love marten
Hehehe bomb
Oh god marten don't die
OH GOD THAT'S NOT WAX WORK
MARTIN NO
ELIAS FUCK YOU
Uh oh
SILLY MUSIC
WHAT'S HAPPENING
Mmm nothing is everything and everything is something
God what is happening
EYE THINGGGG
TIMMM
TIM SET OFF THE BOOM
Oh
What the fuck is this
He's not responseuve
Oh eye always watching
ELIAS STATEMENT?
(I'm listening to this for a second time)
Hehehe sad man
Oh
Oh dear
THE ELBOWS DON'T WORK
The sky?
Oh
OH
Ma ma that's not edible
I don't want the box to sing
NOT THE COFFIN
Oh tunnel
Hmmm blood
TRAIN TIME
Hmmm watching
WHERE'D SHE GO
Oh dig
DOOR
Ants?
Oh
He screams
Who are we watching?
MARTIN
What
ARE TIM AND DAISY DEAD?
Bye Eliasss
PFFFF
OH
Lucassss
YIPPEE PETER
NO TIM AND DAISY ARE DEAD
Season 4 babyyy
Oh
Poor marten
This is so sad
Oh
WHAT
WHAT DO YOU MORE GOODBYE
First actual episode of season 4 :3
Oh?
WHO IS THIS
WHAT
WHERE
YOU SAW JOHN IN A DREAM?
WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU
Oh statement
He sees how people die funnn
“What am I?” I ask that often
Oh
OH
Ship into the middle of nowhereeeee
MEMENTO THING
Snakes?
Oh
Nevermind it's death
Why ya calm
Oh
Did you accidentally kill a bunch of people
Nope
YOU GOT A GUN?
YOU KILLED THE CAPTAIN!????
oh
OH GOD YOU KILLED EVERYONE
This is this Oliver guy
SPIDERS
Oh
That's funnn
Oh boy
Melanie (I think it's her)might have scared him off
Oh
OH
JOHNS AWAKE?
Zombieeee
I keep sending the homophobic vase because I can
oh no it was gorge
AND VISCERA
Magic tape?
JOHN!
HIII JOHN
oh
6 MONTHS
He's very confused and I can see why
Hehehe eye thing
Statement timeeee
YOU CUT SOMEBODY'S HANDS?
I think this dudes on something
Maybe
Idk any more everything is odd
YOUR BEING FOLLOWED MX STATEMENT PERSON
Oh
This person's a little silly
Awww I love John
Even though he keeps making have deep thoughts
THEY CAN'T FIND DAISY'S BODY?
Oh oh god marten are you okay buddy
Oh
Aww
He miss his boyfriend (I'm desperately waiting for them to get together)
W E B yippee
Oh god meline she's very traumatized
Oh
Oh that hurt
OH MY GOD THEY'RE GETTING ATTACKED BY THINGS
(Not at the moment)
I think everyone's losing it
HE JUST CALLED HIMSELF THE ARCHIVIST NOT “Johnathan Sims head archivist” JUST THE FUCKING ARCHIVEST
EVERYONE IS EITHER DEAD, PART OF SOMETHING, FUCKING LOOSING IT OR ALL THREE.
#hello tumblr#i love my dead gay son#:3#the magnus archives#tma podcast#tma#the magnus archives podcast#i love the magnus archives#i love Marten (i relate to him a little to much)#paper says stuff
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i started dungeon meshi this morning. i hadn't done any research besides what i learned thru cultural osmosis. here are my thoughts so far:
i assumed senshi was the main character, and i assumed that laios was a Quiet Aloof Sidecharacter that became a Fan Favorite due to Being Blonde, so i rolled my eyes every time i saw fanart of him
apparently laios is actually The Main Character and people like him because he is Insane and appears to have some sort of obscure offshoot of tetraphilia where the act of Consuming monsters arouses him instead of the monsters themselves, and he never ever shuts up about it. this is utterly fascinating to me and i'd like to study him in a jar
however comma. it IS weird to me that there's so many blonde characters. ok moving on
senshi is even more awesome than i originally realized (and i was greatly looking forward to meeting him). i want to fuck this old man more than i wanted to previously
marcille has suffered more than jesus christ. queen i hope you get the girl
falin's got that High Empathy autism
i am a gay man but i'm femme4butch so i will admit that namari makes me blush a little. where are the trans men like this and why aren't they sending me love letters in the mail
watching this show is significantly more dangerous than watching the food network. show of make you Hungry
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Again another day when I listen to The Magnus protocol and speak my mind freely apologies to those who actively see this and read my thoughts they don’t make sense!
spoilers for The Magnus Protocol 27- Driven below
I’m deeply exhausted today waking up at 5am for results isn’t fine
Results day landing on TMP day is great btw
Also love the sfx
Oh sweet Lena
Lena isn’t too happy
“It is a cluttered eyesore” Lena?
Oh Lena is terrified of the minister nice
Sam why are you a little shit
I love you
Gwen???
Hm
Ha nice Gwen
No Alice?
Ohhh Gwen has many plans love that for her
OH FUCK OFF AUGUSTUS
GOD LEAVE US ALONE
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UPPPPPP GODDDD
Hey voice I don’t know ANYTHING
I’m too exhausted to consume tmp
Thank you to whoever delivers the transcript my mind cannot work without you
Oh wait fuck this is in 1845 I bet you like that Augustus you ancient freak
Chemistry talk again can alchemy calm down
oh I’m tired
Hm alchemy again
Ahhh purification yummy yummy
WAIT
institute? Ahaa
Oh oh nothing I’m calm
CALM.
I’m tagging this after and going to bed
An hansom cab?
Clearances/growlers huh
Oh the background noise
Oh sweet
Haha this sounds like an organ
Oh disappearing? Nice!
Ahhh oh my god
OH IS THAT CAB AND THE COACHMAN KIND OF LIKE A TRAP???
Feels like it if both the cab and the coachman are attached and the trap is easy and ‘fashionable’ travel then it’s easy to take people. Nice.
“Hunting ground” hm weird
This feels like the hunt again
Oh it’s like a Venus fly trap aha nice.
OH MY FUCK
Ohhohoh I love this
“The growler has no need for eyes”
oh this is the hunt please I refuse to believe this isn’t about my baby the hunt
Oh my god
BOYLE???
BOYLE??
Ohhh so he sacrificed someone.
O
The
WHAT
rh
WHAT
WHAT
WHAT FUCKINF EHAT
ESCUSE ME
HA
PAUSE
TIME OUT
MAGNUS INSTITUTR???
EXCUSE ME
Jesus
So whoever wrote this. Founded the Magnus institute
And whoever founded the Magnus institute had a keen eye to sacrificing people for researching and observation
Huhhhhh I wonder who THIS could be referencing
AND I WONDER WHY AUGUSTUS IS READING THIS??
RIP this
AAA
OH
“The rate of digestion is linked to his fear” OH OH OH MY GOD
They said itTHEY SAID IT
LAI LAI TURN THE TV ON THEY HIT THE FUCKIGNKENDND
Oh oh?
Does Gwen want those people dea
YEAHHH ALICEEE
“I’m openly trans on the internet” nice.
Ok so Gwen just wants everything to look nice
So the Magnus institute wanted poisonous washing machines and the ability to look at the stars. Nice!
“Pretty decent sex” nice!
Hilltop centre. WHEN I FUCKING GET YOU.
TREVOR HERBERT????
WHAT THE FUCK
Alice I need you
“More magnussing”
OH OH
OH OA
Alice
ARCHIVIST?? SHES GETTING THE TINFLY FEELING
OH SHES FEELING IT
SHES HAVINF THE SPIDER SENSES
I haven’t collected my thoughts but oh ok that was an episode.
The pre-case is just essentially the whole preparing for the ministers arrival cough Trevor Herbert Jesus fuck.
The case was pretty much as usual their version of the end. I would’ve assumed it was the hunt and was very dedicated to that idea but after the founders experiment we know that the more afraid you were of dying the more they stripped and digested your body down like a Venus fly trap which excretes digestive enzymes the more you move. Which is nice truly this feels like a Venus fly trap situation.
The founder said they were the founder of the Magnus institute and the voice reading this statement out to Sam is possibly Jonah Magnus’ original body. Which makes sense in a way.
The post case was a post case!!!
Gwen got given strange emails with old case files which either means JMJ is giving her important archivist cases or they are giving her trevor Herbert’s statements.
Sam and Celia had a very important convo which was nice and Celia getting straight back into magnussing was great I love that for her
The same few locations that were familiar in TMA are popping up especially ‘Hilltop’
The shopping centre not being used just feels like a drug front but instead of drugs it’s fear
Trevor as MP. Who was predicting this???
I’m quite enjoying the fact that instead of TMA where everyone isolated themselves making them more vulnerable to the fears they all kind of help each other? Will be absolutely lush if they still die though tbh.
Also does Celia get a feeling of dejavu with her TMA-self? She has the sense that these people are helpful and in the TMA-verse they are but in here they aren’t. Especially with her reaction to it being ‘archivist’
Anyways this is great and I didn’t scream at my friend over text because I’m alone in listening this between the two of us if you’re seeing this later I hope you know I’m cursing you
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Ok this is just a little rant about Christianity so if you are Christian I'm not saying I dislike you as a person for that. This is just a little warning.
My mom is Christian cand I grew up Christian. I've known since 8th grade that I don't believe in that stuff. I've always been scared to tell my mom because I know she's gonna be sad and like feel bad for me or feel like she has to try and get me to be Christian again. Especially since her mom has been making a lot of bad decisions and she is Christian. Her mom's been in and out of drugs my mom entire life. I have a feeling that she'd be scared that I'd do stuff like that if I told Im not Christian. Now I've always gone to church on Sunday just because my mom told me I should and I'm to scared to tell her no. I usually just zone out then maybe I hear him say sum really wack stuff and make fun of him in my head then go back to zoning out. I will say my church is usually not that bad, they usually don't bring up the "controversial" stuff like the lgbtq community and abortion are things I've only heard them talk about once. The worst one I've listened to was one where he had a whole sermon talking about how wife's should summit to there husbands. That was until today where he said some things about trans people. I'm not trans but I am bi and I have so really close friends who are. I obviously fully support trans people so when he started talking about them I got real upset. Now I didn't let it show because I'm still to scared and it would be a room full of people vs me. Now him saying that did really surprise me. What happened next is what really surprised me and upset me. Almost every one in the room started clapping. They don't usually do that. The fact that the pastor could say something like "It doesn't matter Jesus loves you" which he has said before but they won't clap for that the main thing about this religion that should make you happy. But your gonna clap for when he says something about trans people. Shows me were your priorities are.
If you where wondering it's a non denominational church
#religious trauma#religion#church#faith#christian faith#christian#jesus#bible#holy spirit#athiest#agnostic#ex christian#ex religious
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yall i gotta get this off my chest. being christian is not inherently bad, like ive met priests that are really fucking cool and dont give a shit that i dress emo as shit, or that someone is gay or trans or whatever. like my second favorite superhero is daredevil and a huge part of his character is that hes catholic. its ok to be christian.
what isnt ok is when people completely misunderstand the point of the whole fucking religion. its “love thy neighbor” you dumb fuck. thats the number one fucking rule. im sick as fuck of watching christian use their religion as an excuse to be an asshole while fundamentally misunderstanding their own religion. jesus would not give a flying fuck if a boy likes to kiss other boys.
like my brother in christ, jesus was an arab who was poor as shit. he hated the rich. that was like his main thing if you actually read the fucking bible and your sitting here talking about how a rich white man, who steals from the poor, and doesnt accept people for who they are is the second coming of him. be so fucking for real right now.
#christianity is actually really cool if you follow it properly#im deadass like jesus was a really cool dude 😭😭#christianity#jesus christ#catholic#trump is a criminal#trumpies are a cult
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Trigger warnings for following text post:
Religion
Christianity
Abortion
Mention of rape
The following text assumes reader is also Christian, however anyone who is curious is more than welcome to read, and I would never intentionally force anyone into believing, so you are safe here!
Just a reminder that canon Jesus was a chill guy who hung out with the unhoused and sex workers, and queer people. Canon Jesus spent His time with those who society didnt love. He was a (likely) queer, Black, Jewish, poor, working class man who was born in Palestine. He stood up for the working class and the undesirable. He preached love and tolerance. He preached the word of the creator through His actions. He was not what modern day "Christians" preach. Fanon Jesus is completely different. Jesus was not homophobic. He did not hate sex workers. He would never blame someone for having a necessary abortion for their own health. He would not be threatening people with hell if they did not repent. He would not be yelling slurs at the people in the pride parade. No. He would be IN the pride parade, He would be spreading the word of God through love and acceptance and through action. Through showing Gods love, through doing as God says we all should. He would be at the abortion clinic, not to protest, but to hold the hands of r victims as they go through the horrific process of an abortion. He would be at the drug clinic supplying clean needles and support for those wishing to get clean. He would be advocating for trans healthcare because GOD MADE THEM THAT WAY! HE MADE THEM THAT WAY! Jesus was an ally, if not a queer person Himself. He loves His creations, and that includes queer people, and sex workers, and poor people, and people who have had or will have an abortion. He loves sinners and He love saints. He died for sinners. He forgives and He loves. There is nothing you can do that will stop His love for you. There is a reason God is called The Father. Because a father (should) love His children unconditionally and forgive them for anything. A father should support and love His children. Jesus is the Son of God, He is the only one without sin, He is God as man, and therefore he LOVES UNCONDITIONALLY. Also, must I remind you, that anything in the Bible against homosexuality, was not against homosexuality at all? It has been translated so many times that the true meaning of a lot of passages has been lost in the English translation. Most verses people use against queer people are truly condemning assault. Not homosexuality. There is nothing against trans people either. Yes, a man should not act/dress as a woman, but must I remind you that gender is a human construct? God did not create the binary. Man did. God created our soul and our spirit and our bodies and He made us in His image. He made is how we were meant to be. Also, in modern times, there are no "womens clothes" and "mans clothes" clothes are simply clothes. We also do not have gender roles in society. Those things are not necessary in modern day. In modern day we are equal in our roles in society. Therefore no man can act or dress as a woman, and no woman can act or dress as a man, because how can you or dress as something that doesn't exist outside of your personal experience? AND btw, transwomen are women and transmen are men, so that verse doesnt even apply 🤷
And lastly, on the topic of things that are condemned, the Bible states that pretty much any sin is not considered a sin if it is committed to save a life. You can eat pork if youre starving. You can work on Shabbos to perform life savinf surgery. Etc etc. The Bible also values the current life over the potential life, so yes, abortion is ok in the Bible if it saves a life, because the life of the carrier is ranked as higher than the life of the fetus. And at the end of the day, you could commit a grave sin, and Jesus will still love you dearly. He will be there when you return to Him. Repent with true intentions and He will forgive.
*please note that it is not my personal belief that true, unnecessary harm, should ever be forgiven by man, I do believe Christ will forgive, just as a loving parent would, but I do not believe He would be proud, He would be heartbroken but His love never ends. And I do not believe a truly evil person would ever truly repent therefore would never be forgiven or enter paradise. These are my personal beliefs. I am not wanting to start discourse on ANY of this.
**please also note, my opinions and beliefs come from someone of my specific experience with God / Christ. My experience is unique and so is yours. My word is the word of one man. Do not ever let it speak over the word of Christ or your understanding of God. But if you are truly Christian, you will love anyone, including non believers and sinners, because THAT is the word of God.
*** for those curious about my experience, I was raised with reform Judaism, and in recent times have begun to follow Christianity. I am no longer Jewish religiously, but a lot of my understanding of the Bible comes from many years of Hebrew school. And no, I am not "messianic". I am Jewish in blood and culture/upbringing and a Christian in faith. I do not support messianics. They are simply culture vultures lmao.
#religion#Christianity#religious queer#canon jesus#yes i used fandom terms when talking about the bible and no idc#if you disagree block and move on#im not in the mood to argue rn
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Chris watches Howl’s Moving Castle for the first time
* Another one I’ve heard mentioned a lot and know nothing about
* HOLY SHIT GIANT MOVING CASTLE?? idk what I was expecting
* Oh, so Howl’s a bad guy?? omg is he a werewolf I s2g if he’s a werewolf named howl…
* Claiming Sophie on behalf of the Trans Community
* Oh no is that him why is he dressed like some anime guy, he reminds me of the beast in beauty and the beast after he turns human. Is this a beauty and the beast adaptation??
* Don’t let him seduce u Sophie be strong!!!
* I do love the wild fantasy elements of all of these movies, and this one feels like it’s gonna do some worldbuilding. Into it.
* What is with these movies and creepy old ladies?
* NO THATS SOPHIE WTF
* I do think maybe I have a weird phobia of old people? Wild way to find out
* Jesus Christ I just know that scarecrow is alive
* Oh maybe not
* JESUS
* Aw he’s so sweet
* This studio loves to animate flying things and old ladies. But hey, this is the first one I’ve seen that doesn’t start with someone moving somewhere new, so we’ve got that going for us
* Lmao the scarecrow did bring her a house
* This castle freaks me tf out and I haven’t even seen inside. Real Baba Yaga energy
* Bye Turnip, what a cutie
* Okay so the fire is a cute lil guy
* Magic door? Into it. So where is she really and why is it so Cottagecore
* “Calcifer said I could come in” “I did not!”
* That bacon looks so good and I don’t even eat bacon
* I love the idea of something being built into a spell to keep you from telling anyone about it
* I love calcifer and I love Sophie’s dynamic with him
* Turnip is back, yay!!
* I bet he’s under a curse too
* I wonder if he’s the missing prince!!
* I could probably paint that lake
* DONT LIKE THE WEIRD FLYING HOWL BIRD WTF
* I’m really intrigued by him as a character though
* omg that’s Christian bales voice as howl lmao no wonder these dubs are so uncharacteristically good
* omg I’m looking at the English cast kw this SLAPS
* goddamn am I having gay thoughts about a weird anime guy noooo
* I’m crying why does howl have to be such an ugly dog
* how does the Lauren Bacall witch fit in that little carriage thing if she’s so huge, I swear this is one of the funniest movies I’ve seen in a long timd
* ok but I still don’t really get why Sophie had the spell cast on her in the first place, she wasn’t bothering nobody before
* I’ve gotten some antisemitic vibes from characters in other ghibli movies so far and I’m not a huge fan of the fatphobia with the villain, I just gotta say
* Lmao the dog isn’t even howl?
* wait why tf does the castle have a mouth
* why is the bad witch tagging along dump her ass
* So Sophie is young when she sleeps? I don’t get that
* Ok…. So she’s just…. Young again?
* Creepy?? Toy cave??
* Wtf why are these movies so confusing
* I might be imagining it but Sophie does seem to be gradually getting younger
* I love how gung-ho Howl is about his family and his house. Love that in a man.
* Found family themes just Get Me, u know?
* On one hand I don’t Get What’s Happening with the war, but also… I Get this movie
* Also still don’t get the aging and de-aging and I’m not sure if it’s only supposed to be metaphorical or what
* So… why did he eat her hair??
* I gotta say that I love that the only sound the ugly dog makes is us a dry cough
* Maybe the dog is called heen bc he has chicken feet and heen is like hen
* DONT EAT THAT GLOWING ORB HOWL
* yeah I have no idea what the fuck is going on right now
* Wtf howl is just… right there?
* Why was his heart even gone in the first place? Seems like he had it the whole time anyway. Did he know calcifer had it? Like I really don’t get any of that
* TURNIP IS THE PRINCE I CALLED IT
* Lol why is Sophie his true love
* And now they’re just gonna end the war???
Okay that was definitely more fun than any of the other ones I’ve seen so far. CONFUSING AS FUCK like I don’t get it at all but it was really fun. Really funny, with GREAT characters, and I was loved Billy Crystal Fire Guy, so glad I happened to watch the dub.
Also I can’t explain it, but this one is just For The Gays
I’ll watch Princess Mononoke next
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me admiring the art of bemani PART ONE: "いちかのごちゃまぜMix UP!" event
so this is prob gonna be a new series where tl;dr i glaze the art of bemani because theyre f'ing good (sometimes, thanks konami), and also because even tho not many people care about rhythm games, at least care about the art of it lol
i would also post the artist's name, but konami stopped giving the names of their cover artists a long time ago... only the song artists are named.
to give some context of this event, its basically a mashup of two songs (or mix-up), to make a new song, in order to unlock the boss song. why? i dunno ichika wanted to get some food and somehow found herself at a mountain
im just gonna go order of the circle the event page is in lol (ill save the best one for last tho... lol)
[]DENTITY (I x perditus†paradisus)
ok before we start on this song... they shouldve named it ][DENTITY :3
i can definitely tell they were copying both of the series's artstyle (they really just used a 3d render of TRAN and pasted it in lol), its still pretty dang good. the cat ear shaped v-disk is so funny to me idk why. the song itself however is really good imo, pls give it a listen.
White Stream (Four Leaves x Snowmelt)
so we basically turned back in time and stole the artstyle of Sound Voltex Vivid Wave and GITADORA Tri-Boost Re:EVOLVE lol. i really dig it tho lol, just like song (god they went hard on the vocal chops)
Kilonova (キヤロラ衛星の軌跡 x Pursuer)
so even tho this is one of the more forgettable songs (since no one other then ddr players care about ddr), they forgot to add in pursuer to this cover art lol. i dont like this one, but oh well lol
新蛇姫 (New Decade x BREDLI)
this is one of the more creative ones lol. New Decade (fyi released in 2010) with the 2020's art style, and BREDLI's snake obsession. i also like it how it conveys the songs dont like each other so they just show the mascots getting beat the shit out of lol
Dance With The Dead (Love 2 Shuffle x
Necroxis Girl)
OK WTF WHY DOES SMITH LOOK SO GOOD IN IN THIS JACKET HE HAS SOME MOVES 🔥🔥
even tho the font is... hard to read, they went crazy with it lol. they literally took the sick ass fit from love 2 shuffle and the goofy ass poses in Necroxis Girl. go wild.
Metamorphic (ロミとロボの宇宙飛行 x MONOLITH)
this is just the MONOLITH but with a cuter artstyle and added some animals to give it WoNdeR. i quite like it, shows off the two songs very nicely.
Indigo Nocturne (蒼氷のフラグメント x REcorrection)
jesus christ they represented both of the games and the songs in the best way possible. like... this is so calming, just like the genre of REcorrection, "Fluffy Pop". the song itself is such a bop too.
輪廻の鴉 (RINИE x 鴉)
the best one out of the bunch. holy shit they went fucking hard on this one. i think they know it because this song is the only one with vocals lol. like... even tho they dont really reference a lot of the two song's artworks, they really took the time and effort to reference both Pop'n Music and Beatmania IIDX in the best way possible. like tran and mimi... TRAN AND MIMI LOOK SUPER GOOD HERE LIKE THEY SHOULD BE OFFICIAL CHARACTERS YOU CAN PICK IN POP'N (ik they exist already, but like its the duo as a character, not just one of them)
BONUS EXTRA STAGE: VOLAQUAS (Valanga x 海神)
sooooo.. how do you make a boss boss song? just combine two boss songs together not that hard lol. okay but in all seriousness, combining two boss songs that you made, and then it "YOUR NAME VS YOUR NAME BUT DIFFERENT" is the biggest flex because dj totto vs totto sounds sick af. the song doesnt miss as well lol, the genre is literally "EMPYREAL HYDRO ARTCORE". i wonder why the legendary mountain is underwater in the cover art this time... /s
ENDING THOUGHTS
alright since the event happened like two years ago already (jeez its already been that long? i still remember unlocking it myself like it was yesterday)
even tho konami fucked up in 2016 and 2017 and lost most of the magic tbh, i think this is a good event nonetheless. like the collabs are insane. ill give it a 5 pepperoni pizzas / 19 grapes (mostly because the songs that are mixed up are also added to the other game as well... and thats like.. good :)
#bemani#sound voltex#beatmania iidx#iidx#glazing art#popn music#ノスタルジア#im too lazy to add all of these tags#ur welcome
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received an email yesterday concerning an article I wrote some time ago. The person asked me so many interesting and thought-provoking questions in that email. In this follow-up post, I will try to answer some of those questions to the best of my knowledge.
What role did the church play in the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade? What exactly does the Bible say about slavery? Is Christianity a “slave religion”? Why so many black people love the church and the Bible?
According to Jomo Kenyatta, the founding father and first president of Kenya, “When the missionaries arrived, the Africans had the land and the missionaries had the Bible. They taught us how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible”.
That was the beginning of the European colonization of Africa. As I said in my other post, the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade was introduced by the coming of the Europeans. The Europeans came with the Bible the same way the Arab raiders and traders from the Middle East and North Africa introduced Islam and the Quran through the Trans-Saharan Slave Trade. So yes, the church did play a major role in the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade. In fact, the church was the backbone of the slave trade.
In other words, most of the slave traders and slave ship captains were very “good” Christians. For example, Sir John Hawkins, the first slave ship captain to bring African slaves to the Americas, was a religious gentleman who insisted that his crew “serve God daily” and “love another”. His ship, ironically called “the good ship Jesus,” left the shores of his native England for Africa in October 1562.
The church, especially the Roman Catholic and the Anglican Churches, had plantations with slaves working on them. For example, the United Society for the Propagation of the Gospel (USPG) – the world's oldest Anglican mission agency, owned several acres of slave plantations. It has been documented that the 800 acre Codrington slave plantation in Barbados was owned and operated by the United Society for the Propagation of the Gospel (USPG) during the 18th and 19th centuries.
One may ask, why would the church condone such barbaric acts as slavery? Well, the answer lies in the Bible the same way the answer for extremist Islamic terrorism in the world today lies in the Quran. Yes, slavery isn't just "normal" in the Bible. It is perfectly OK (or can be interpreted so) according to the scriptures. There are several chapters and verses supporting slavery in both the old and new testaments of the Bible.
Exodus 21 of the old testament of the Bible for example, gives clear instructions on how to treat a slave. Both Deuteronomy 20:10-14 and Leviticus 25:44-46 also give clear instructions on who should be slaves, how and where to buy slaves, etc.
Some Christians argue those chapters and verses are in the old testament and therefore don’t count but that is heresy. Also, there are several chapters and verses supporting slavery even in the New testament of the Bible. For example, the book of Ephesians 6:5 of the New Testament clearly states “Slaves, Obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ”. Not just that, 1 Timothy 6:1 of the New Testament also clearly states “Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed”. I can go on and on.
Slavery existed during the time of Jesus and continued after Jesus. Slavery got abolished nearly 2000 years after the death of Jesus. Jesus had every chance to speak against slavery. The question is, did he do it? And if Jesus did speak against slavery then why did his followers twist his words? If Jesus did speak against slavery then why does the New Testament of the Bible support slavery? And if the Bible got twisted along the way then does it make much sense for us to put our trust in it?
Now back to the question, "Is Christianity a slave religion?" Well, I am not that great with the Bible so I will leave that to the experts to answer.
Reverend Richard Furman, President of the South Carolina Baptist convention 1823 said, “The right of holding slaves is clearly established in the holy scriptures, both by precepts and by example”.
In a letter to the Emancipator in 1839, the Reverend Thomas Witherspoon of the Presbyterian church of Alabama in the USA wrote, “I draw my warrant from the scriptures of the old and new testaments to hold the slave in bondage”.
"The extracts from Holy Writ unequivocally assert the right of property in slaves"--Rev. E.D. Simms, professor, Randolph-Macon College. I can go on and on.
So as we can see, the church and the early Christians saw nothing wrong with slavery and fully engaged themselves. Most churches and cathedrals owned several acres of slave plantations and owned several slaves. Even when slavery was abolished, most churches had to be compensated for setting their slaves free.
Yes, one of the ironies of the 1833 Slavery Abolition Act was that, it was slave owners, not the slaves, who were compensated at the emancipation of slaves. The Anglican Church received 8,823 pound sterling in compensation for its loss of over 400 slaves. The Bishop of Exeter, along with three of his colleagues received some 13,000 pounds in compensation for over 660 slaves. All these have been documented and I can go on and on.
Why so many black people love the church and the Bible? Well, that is a question I cannot answer all alone.
#Christianity and Slavery: The role of the Church#slavery#church#catholic church#anglican church#christians#slavery in america
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Re: that last gif set …
I remember reading an intro to one of the Sandman collections where I thought “Seriously, Neil?” about something childcare related. Then he and his first wife got divorced and there was something there that bothered me. But: parasocial relationship, not anyone I actually know, whatever.
Then the whole mess with Covid and him going to Scotland while Amanda and their son were in NZ, and how he broke quarantine rules, and I was like … ok, parasocial relationship, but Jesus Christ, dude, what the fuck?
But. Neil Gaiman. He seemed like a decent person, a person trying to do good things, so okay, Neil can have one major fuckup as a treat, yeah? We’re all human and Covid traumatized everyone. But I remember thinking, “Yowza, what a trainwreck, esp. when it comes to relationships, damn.”
And now, I have read all the things about the podcast, the accusations, the whisper network, the fucking Clarion rule, and yeah, I believe the women. (I believed *something* happened from the start, but it’s Neil Gaiman, surely he should get a little grace—oh. Well. Never mind. Fucking hell.) I am so incredibly disappointed in this person I have never met but thought was a decent person—and honestly? I don’t necessarily think he’s *not* a progressive, allied person who cares about refugees and trans rights and LGBTQ+ issues and, god help me, feminist issues. I think human beings can be scummy af and also have excellent ratings from the Human Rights Campaign. It’s cognitively dissonant, but it’s true.
With that said: He hurt people. That is not okay. And I really hope those people get the help and support that they need to cope with what happened.
When it comes to his work—well, I can’t read Orson Scott Card anymore, and I can’t read Harry Potter anymore (that one really hurts; y’all know I read those to Z when he was little before she admitted she was a transphobe). But I can watch Buffy. Because Buffy is more than Joss Whedon—Buffy is Marti Noxon and Jane Espensen and Sarah Michelle Gellar. And I think (I hope) I can still watch/read Good Omens and Sandman for the same reasons.
(Gonna be honest, I’m not sure losing the novels is upsetting me? *That’s* interesting. How much of what I love about Neil Gaiman’s work is due to his collaborators? Hmmm.)
So, anyway, those are my thoughts there, if anyone was wondering. I usually tag stuff with titles (I hate it when I see a gif set that’s interesting and then it’s not labeled with the title of the thing, so I do always try to make sure the title is somewhere), so block as you need to. And again, I believe the women.
#seldnei rants#i will not write a tag novel but goddamn there are SO MANY OTHER THOUGHTS i have about this
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