#its a squick not an ick

[bethanydelleman]

Okay, so this is the post where I defend first cousin marriage, which is featured in Mansfield Park, Sense & Sensibility, and also comes up in Pride & Prejudice (I mean Anne de Bourgh and Mr. Darcy, Mr. Collins is a distant cousin to Elizabeth, at least 2 degrees removed, Mr. Elliot in Persuasion is another second cousin, though his line about Anne not changing her name might be the most cringy pickup line in romance history).

Firstly, 1st cousin marriage, in general is a squick NOT genetically dangerous. Yes, the Hapsburgs did happen, but they were intermarrying like crazy and within a very small dating pool. For most people, the genetic danger is equal to a woman over 35 having a baby. Negligible.

You also have to consider why cousin marriage was a good idea. Yes, you want to maintain wealth within a family, but more than that, women are vulnerable in marriage. When divorce laws are strict, and even running away from abuse is heavily frowned upon (just see The Tenant of Wildfell Hall) it becomes very important to choose prudently. Now who should you trust not to be abusive? The man you met at six balls in heavily chaperoned settings or cousin Charles, who you've known since birth and who has always been kind to you? I'm going with Charles. And you have more allies (hopefully) in that situation. You can go to your uncle for help if something is going wrong. You have an established network.

You can see why the overly cautious and continually neglected and verbally abused Fanny Price doesn't want to chance it on the wider world! She knows Edmund about as well as a human can know another human.

Now I'm sure this didn't always work perfectly, it certainly didn't for Eliza Brandon, but I can really see the logic behind it especially in Regency England.

In most Western countries, first cousin marriage just seems weird, but it's probably because we have such large dating pools these days and much longer dating periods (usually). People don't marry in a matter of weeks, they often date for years. With the benefits of cousin marriage fairly incomprehensible, we tend to focus on the risks.

Also, we have to remember that these people were not raised being told it was wrong, it wouldn't be gross to them. In fact, in Mansfield Park the idea that it would be a real fear for Fanny to marry one of the sons comes up more than once (at the ball we are told onlookers might have thought Sir Thomas was raising Fanny as a wife for his second son). In Frankenstein, Victor's parents specifically call Elizabeth his cousin instead of sister, assumably because they shipped those two crazy kids at five years old.

Anyway, many cultures still today prefer or practice first cousin marriage. The genetic risk increase is very small (it raises from about 2% to 4%) and we now have genetic testing as well. While it may be gross to you, it is not wrong or immoral, it is a difference. I can see why women might consider it a safer and desirable option.

I'm bringing this up not just because I read way too many posts about how gross the ending of Mansfield Park is to people, but because many people alive today are married to their first cousins and if you meet one, please be civil.

[toytulini]

would be cool this yr to do like first aid training maybe?

[hollystarquarium]

we should be nicer to people about their fears i think

[thesezombiestastelikeashes]

Normally I post about Dimension 20 on my main blog but a thing happened on Adventuring Party and I'm gonna talk about it

So watching through the Episode 2 Adventuring Party, something really amazing happened at 2:15 ish. And now I'm gonna talk about consent and content in Tabletop and how @quiddie and Izzy (and everyone else at the table) absolutely fucking nailed it

Edited because I cannot believe I spelled Aabria wrong so many damn times in a row I'm so sorry

Specifics below the cut for spoilers and content warning: parasites and squick

The notes for DMs (and players) to take away from this:

Look for soft no's, even if you know your players. Make space for a no, even if you are excited. Once the no has been said, move on and no complaining that someone's comfort level isn't the same as yours.

So Brennan asked a question about the parasites, Chipmunks, and bear in Adventuring Party to clarify if Chipmunks and Parasite were one in the same or different entities (it was just the chipmunks being massively fucked up)

Aabria, as DMs who put their entire heart and soul into making a campaign often do, went to start explaining the basis for the parasites (link to ribbon worms, very content warn, dead dove do not eat). The table reacted. Brennan does a very physical ick response, Erika's face was very "I am listening to something gross", while the rest of the table looked interested in that way nerds do when they don't know what they're walking into. And Izzy said "I want you to stop."

Aabria just said ok, told the camera/audience to google it, and they moved on.

And I wanna talk about what a baller move that is on Aabria and Izzy's parts. (And Quiddie if you see this please tell Izzy she's an inspiration and I adore her and all of the compliments)

So first and maybe least controversial: Aabria

-While giving the explanation of the fucked up thing she slows down her talking (I'm not sure if it was intentional but it seemed it so I'm gonna talk about it) Instead of rushing through the explanation the way people excited tend to do she said everything slowly, gave lots of pauses to be interrupted, and really took the time to let the party know what she was describing was icky

-While doing the describing, she looked around the table. Not just at the person with the biggest visual reaction, but you can watch her make the rounds with her eyes to look at everyone and make sure they all know she is still engaging with them and checking in on them

-Her "ok" is so pleasant. It's not just polite, it's not just kind, it's upbeat and pleasant to listen to. There's no judgement in it, there's no "but I wanted to keep talking about this thing" its just "ok"

-And that's the fucking hard part, letting someone know you've heard them without any judgment or disappointment when they want you to stop talking about something

And now Izzy

-Most people aren't going to applaud someone for saying "I want you to stop" to a DM explaining something but I will. A+ Izzy

-She found her boundary and enforced it and felt comfortable with it

-She did it in such a specific way "want" instead of "need"; "I want" instead of "You need", not to mention the full firmness of it where it couldn't be misinterpreted (A+, hardest part)

-The flick of her eyes to the rest of the table, I can't tell if she's checking in with other people's comfort level or just watching Brennan's arm thing, but the way she looks at her fellow players is just such a Thing that I cannot Words about, whether its checking in for their comfort or looking for support for hers its an important look that I might be reading too much into.

Now some other important beats

-No one comments that Izzy made Aabria stop.

-Brennan says he can connect with Aabria later about it, without mentioning any of the content, and Siobhan and Jasper make the note of "maybe don't google it" but no one mentions the content after Izzy says it

-They just move on. Like even if it briefly sounds like they might hit back onto it (we'll never know what Erika was leading to with their "I've always been obsessed with") they just move on immediately

It's a goddamned masterclass of consent at the table. Aabria checking in and looking for soft no's and giving space for hard no's and then once a hard no was thrown immediately shifting the entire direction of the conversation was amazing.

[olderthannetfic]

Inspired by the discord wank anon, two examples of servers that have taken a weird turn in their strife to be inclusive and mindful to its members:

1) A server I was in that had a blacklist channel where people could list their triggers and squicks to ensure that it was either not mentioned at all, or at least spoiled and CWd. I mean, sure, having a few Big Common Triggers on a "should be spoilered" list is fine, but this quickly grew wayyy out of proportion. When a hundred people all list their personal no-no subjects, and expects everyone else to remember it…. that's ridiculous. And like, since people have super varied, specific things that give them the icks, the server basically became impossible to use. Especially when those triggers/squicks intersected with pretty significant parts of the canon source material….

2) Different server, but similar-ish problem. One server user requested that all mentions/discussions of one of the main characters would be spoilered and warned for. The mods agreed to it, but it made the discussion climate feel pretty damn weird to me.

Maybe I'm just an insensitive asshole, but I feel like these kind of things are unreasonable in a server bigger than a small circle of friends' group chat. Idk if it's a wide-spread problem but since it keeps popping up, maybe others have bumped into it too.

--

I think the requests are extremely common. Server mods' responses vary widely though.

[dontopenfairies]

What are your thoughts on crossdressing, esp with how often it mixes into ab/dl things?

I (as an nb but afab person) personally really like the idea of boys dressing in delicate and 'feminine' styles super cute and an interesting way to explore vulnerability combined with being diapered, but I usually get squicked out by most stories I've read out there featuring it (esp in 'sissy' stories where its treated as something that enables other characters to the guy as a "lesser" person - blegh.)

You're the first writer I've seen talk about the gender dynamics in this kink in a very nuanced way that's quite similiar to mine, so I'm just really curious what your own feelings are about it.

Thanks and hope you have a good day! :)

I was just thinking about this today actually lol. I was imagining a boy wearing a two-piece bikini w a skirt and it was sooo cute. I think that the vulnerability is definitely a factor in it being attractive to me but it is sad that men feel uncomfortable in feminine clothing and that displaying femininity is considered humiliating. And that being a “girl” is something sexually dirty, low-status, etc. Which is interesting in the case of sissies who worship dommes and preach female superiority at the same time as wanted to be humiliated as a “little girl”. I can’t lie it irks me and icks me at times as someone who had to grow up as a little girl. But of course it isn’t really hurting anyone.

It’s interesting that dress is used as an indicator of softness, toughness, all these things, but can also be completely independent of a person’s behavior or role. And also that there is a distinct aesthetic of dominant femininity, like long red nails and dominatrix outfits, unlike a submissive crossdressing AB/DL femininity that’s more infantile. AND also practice practicing nurturing, gentle femdom is expressing traits associated with womanhood. I’m really wary of it falling into the trope of a woman serving a man.

I don’t know if claiming that my personal attraction to men in dresses and girly clothes is different from sissy fetishists’ is just grasping at something in order to justify myself or if there’s genuinely some bigger picture I’m seeing that they’re missing.

Anyway, I think crossdressing is cute as fuck. I used to imagine doing a guy’s makeup a lot. I think it would be nice to help a man feel comfortable with that side of himself and confident in expressing femininity. I would want them to feel safe to do that.

Thank you very much for the ask & for sharing your perspective. Sorry this became an essay. I hope it makes sense I just worked 8hrs and then worked on art stuff for another several hours on top of that lol

[mishkakagehishka]

Okay i was gonna reblog that post about how people on here have latched onto cannibalism (metaphors) bc it's become trendy ie. it's "safe" and not actually much of a taboo (as long as you never go past ironic and metaphorical, i don't have to take out the "wait, you guys don't actually get the urge to eat someone because you love them?" meme) right now. About how they only take "taboos" that have become sanitised and safe and, most of all, an aesthetic.

And i wanted to mention coffin of andy and leyley

Like, to start off, incest is a squick for me. I can't stand it and i have all incest ships for the fandoms i'm in blacklisted bc, personally, it's an ick. But, i found it funny that people played a game with satanic cannibalism at its centre and still cancelled it... but because of the (optional, avoidable, it was literally a route you had to choose yourself) incest between the brother and sister who killed and ate people, including their own parents.

And, honestly, why i don't participate in ship discourse, despite the fact that i find loli/shota and inc.est and so much more gross and disgusting, they're my cousins wwwww i write cannibalism and eroguro i'm literally the prosh.ipper to proper antishippers. You know what i mean? So imo if you're gonna be like "oooo cannibalism is so sexy💞💞" even if you're only talking ab the aesthetic of having blood on your face, you really have no right to talk about other taboos. In my opinion.

Anyway. You guys just like to be edgy but still safe and "morally pure" and that's fine, but try not to think you're better than people who love taboos if you're trying to play to the idea that what you love is also a taboo. Or worse, don't try to act that your edgy interests aren't a taboo just because they've become an aesthetic.

[zorilleerrant]

For the ask game, ship you’ve unwilling come around to!

Oh, I have so many NoTPs in every fandom, and, unfortunately, a ton of them tend to be canon or popular in fandom! The ones that bother me so much I had to block the tags are Dick/Babs, Tim/Kon, and Spike/Buffy. I think those are the only ships I currently have blocked, but some of that is just because the other ships are less popular (or fewer people I follow care one way or the other).

With Dick/Babs, it's that I love their dynamic as childhood friends or as young superhero friends, and if they have romantic entanglements on top of that it feels like it's invalidating the friendship. There's a lot of 'this boy and girl are friends so they have to date' (see also: these two queer boys/girls are friends so they have to date) and it gets its ick on ships, even though generally I do enjoy a friends-to-lovers arc. It's also a little creepy to me that Babs was originally Bruce's love interest, and then infantilized to be Dick's love interest - the same reason that Kori/Jason and Raven/Damian bother me so much. Also, Babs is a lesbian. I really just prefer them as mlm/wlw solidarity and not in a bi4bi way.

Tim/Kon and Spike/Buffy are more a problem with the fans than any of the canon material. (Which is why I ship Tim/Kon in the HBO Titans universe, which I haven't seen many people being mean about.) I see a lot of Tim/Kon fans hating on Bernard and Tim/Bernard and also hating on DC in a way that honestly feels pretty homophobic. I don't think that's their intention but it really sounds like the same arguments people who just don't want canon queer characters at all make. I also see them hating on Steph and Tim/Steph sometimes in ways that are pretty misogynistic (and also biphobic) and I just don't like it.

Spike/Buffy is like... I enjoyed the dynamic on the show, where they were both unhealthily codependent and toxic to each other. Two people who think they're in love or have the potential to be in love because they won't address their own problems is my jam! Of course, most of the shippers seem to want to treat it like a real (or especially a healthy) relationship instead of a toxic situationship. There's also the problem that, like, they keep defending why Spike 'deserves' to still be in a relationship with Buffy after assaulting her, sometimes with pages long essays, and never once mention how Buffy might feel about that. Completely ignoring Buffy's opinion on the whole thing feels, to me, even more nonconsensual than the original incident (which I was willing to chalk up to bad writing and ignore). So now the merest mention gives me the creepy crawlies. This is most canon ships on BtVS, tho.

Most ships I'm open to, tho! I especially enjoy hearing about rarepairs and anything that couldn't happen in canon (crossover ships, etc.) because I can roll it around in my head until I understand it. Which is why even stuff that squicks me at first I'm willing to give a chance if the story sounds interesting enough.

[fillmewithcum]

For the kink game, incest roleplay

oof I know this ick's people but it should be p obvious that I'm actually very very into this, 9/10

I think it hits my "forbidden" sex and power dynamic kinks really well, and often has a d/s element too? and like...let's be so real a lot of the step brother/step sister trend is basically just soft cnc. and also cheating and cuckholding kink a little maybe

the missing point is because I've had people squick me out on this before. I think I'm mostly into the elements I talked about above rather than like...it being inherently hot to fuck your sister or something. like the hotness comes from all the kink involved for me. if you're role-playing that you're fucking me and I'm your sister and actually it's totally fine and legal and normal and everyone knows and there's no secret then like...its not hot anymore for me!

[imustbenuts]

Who's your Delicious in Fire Emblem dream adventurer party-- We've talked meals, but who's gonna go diving into dungeons to hunt these monsters?

oooh this is a pretty interesting spin and tough to answer. theres so many characters in FE its a difficult to pin down. anyway throught process time

for this ask im going to interpret this into the following problem. 1) be good at cooking mons, 2) and be okay with eating mons.

theres def a lot of them who are objectively good at hunting, but the mon part will trip them up.

further, my problem with the majority of the FE cast is that i trust very few of these people to be both of those things. majority of these characters are also either too aristocrat-y or not adventerous enough in terms of food... at least in my head. more under the cut bc long post ;o

like i cant expect chrom to be all 'sure lets eat some fried lizards', dude grew up on fancy feasts and field rations. even if his STR is through the roof and eats unpeeled oranges hes just not really the type to be enthusiastic on monster food. alcryst would panic at the thought of it and ill spare him from this hypothetical. culturally, takumi might not be ok with eating mons bc they could be too 'unclean' for shinto. similarly, as capable as some cooks are, non-conventional monster parts on the chopping block is probably not something they'd wanna touch.

also for the purpose of this post im sniping bunet and frederick straight out of the pool bc both are such an easy pick. bunet bc he would absolutely respect the food to cook it perfectly, and frederick bc he'd be decent but will be a pain in the ass to deal with without blackmailing chrom or something. bam bam.

so ding dong the first victims of the fire emblem dangly ronply has been found. lets move on

so here are the shortlisted canidates: lukas, nephenee, petra, byleths, nyx and shez. not necessarily a party, bc personality might not gel well together :c, but at least one of these in a party and the run should have a decent chance of succeeding.

1. lukas

lukas is choosen here bc he would not be bothered too much by the idea of eating monsters. in fact, he would be okay at prepping a slain mon for food even if he cant cook decently. his inherent lack of strong emotions or feelings towards things is also going to be a big plus for this specific scenario. some people have interpreted him being a high functioning sociopath or just someone who has very repressed emotions.

either way he isnt too bound by conventional thinking. and also he'd be the party's tank and foward. lukas the tank engine. never forget.

2. nepheene.

she would probably squick a bit here at the thought of eating monsters not bc monsters are ick but bc society thinks the act of eating monsters is ick. so itd take some time getting used to it but she would quickly adapt in a dunmeshi setting given her country bumpkin background.

mon prep, no issues. i also think she might be good at foraging. cooking hearty meals might come easy due to her growing up with multiple siblings. shes also very tough in survival, so i think she'll do okay :)

3. petra

this girl's got it. shes good at hunting, good at trapping, probably okay at recognizing and disabling traps considering her perception honed from her hunting culture and skill.

mon prep isnt going to be a big problem. generally speaking, cultures where hunters are present typically try not to waste any part of their kills, and butchering is an essential skill to have. in terms of taste it might be a little difficult for others to get used to, but im sure she'll be a massive boon to any dungeon food party.

4. byleth / byleths

oh yeah. they are DEFINITELY not going to have a problem with this. considering they're mercenaries and are on the road often, hunting and cooking would be a basic survival skill. they wouldnt be picky about food either

given how they might be very objective orientated, giving them a mission of hunting monsters for food will not go wrong. i hope. as long as sothis doesnt get in the way--

5. shez

!!UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES PUT SHEZ AND BYLETH TOGETHER IN THE SAME PARTY WITHOUT PRIOR INTERACTION!!

to prevent sothis from activating, place a face down shez in defense position and summon a byleth in attack position. then, activate Tea Time and upon the appearance of sothis, activate Swords Of Revealing Light. this will lock sothis down while the two have a chat and realize they're exactly the same except where shez is suckier at general mercenary stuff, they're infinitely better at cooking

once that gets resolved feel free to put shez either solo or together with byleth. they're a squishier byleth but def will get the job done AND feed you yum yums.

6. nyx

nyx is a very very powerful magic user who embodies the lolibaba trope. but for her case, she doesnt follow conventional thinking, and is a very powerful mage who might appreciate taking a mission of dungeon monster hunting to train and get her abilities under control

above all, bc of her curse trapping her physical age to be a young girl, shes mentally an old lady, so shes mature and kind and seems to really want to act on those feelings. her bringing a bunch of dead mons for the youngins to eat might do her good for her mental health :D

further, i think shes the type to pick up maternal-ish skills like cooking and sewing for another person or poor meowmeows if she gets attatched enough.

and bc shes good at magic she can easily disable magical traps or detect magical BS. shes definitely a learned mage by the time we run in to her in fates

thats all folks (this took hours to write hrbrhrh)

[imakemywings]

Sapphic Book Recs

Moving outside the realm of fanning out over characters we already know, here are a few book recommendations that feature or center F/F relationships. (Note: I am NOT including comprehensive trigger warnings--please mind your triggers if you choose to check any of these out!)

The Locked Tomb series by Tamsyn Muir - My personal favorite on the list. If you’re into the F/F lit scene at all, I’m sure you’ve heard of these. TLT is a masterpiece of modern fantasy and has enough moments where its glib tone gives way into something raw and real that it keeps the stakes high and the reader invested. The characters jump off the page and the worldbuilding is colorful and strange. However, if you’re easily squicked by gore, you might want to give these a pass--necromancy is a central pillar of the world and Muir does not hold back on the ick factor.

Recommend if you:

Like stories that keep you guessing

Like messy characters

Savor a bit of codependency in your F/F

The Burning Kingdoms trilogy by Tasha Suri - TBK is a fantasy series set in a fictional country inspired by ancient India. Suri weaves together the stories of several characters and does an excellent job of showing how her two main protagonists--Priya and Malini--are torn between their attraction to each other and the roles of responsibility they choose to take up. Suri also does an excellent job of allowing the female characters to drive the plot, even where they don’t exist in positions of power. (Longer review here)

Recommend if you:

Want female-focused fantasy

Enjoy the push and pull of “duty vs. love”

Enjoy multi-POV stories that unfold gradually

Fingersmith by Sarah Waters - Fingersmith is a period romance piece that involves deceit, heist plans, and falling in love with the mark. This is one of those books where re-reading it a second time will definitely feel different than the first go. Waters does a great job with the interplay of the characters’ motivations which are gradually revealed throughout the book.

Recommend if you:

Enjoy spy/heist stories

Love it when characters lie to each other

Are mostly looking for romance

The Priory of the Orange Tree by Samantha Shannon - An epic high fantasy novel clocking in at over 800 pages, Priory covers a lot of ground and a lot of fantasy staples. Ead, an outsider to the court of Inys, has taken it upon herself to secretly guard the queen for reasons of her own--with the results you might hope for as she gets closer to Sabran.

Recommend if you:

Enjoy a romantic subplot but don't want it to take over the action

Enjoy multi-POV stories that unfold gradually

Like the tension of "duty vs. love”

Want an epic dragon-on-dragon fight

One Last Stop by Casey McQuiston - If you just really want something lighthearted and if you’re a big reader of fanfiction, this might be your choice. OLS is a fluffy piece that relies heavily on the found family trope with just a dash of fantasy. The standout character is definitely love interest Jane, a suave, confident butch who sweeps protag August off her feet from day one. (Longer review here)

Recommend if you:

Are mostly looking for romance

Do not want lots of angst

Prefer a story where everyone gets along

Snow Flower and the Secret Fan by Lisa See - I debated including this one, because it is not explicitly F/F, which is going to be a deal-breaker for some people. But honestly the romantic and sexual undertones of Lily and Snow Flower’s relationship come across so strong I’m willing to put it up here. This book is set in 19th century China and centers around the intense friendship of two women, starting from childhood and through their adulthood. This one will take you on an emotional ride for sure. A film came out based on this, but in short my review on that is: the book is better!

Recommend if you:

Are okay with ambiguous relationships

Like looking at what women’s private lives looked like in the past

Are looking for something dramatic/emotional

[shipcestuous]

W/ the whole “grade on a curve” thing I can kinda see why it would annoy other incest shippers but I think it’s important for antis to know that not all incest shippers have a “free for all” attitude when it comes to incest ships and we have our icks. Like non-related ships, we also have our boundaries and containing a certain trope that interests us doesnt guarantee us shipping it

If antis weren't constantly assuming the worst they wouldn't be antis, right? Some of them still think the happiest and healthiest and lovingest of consensual incestuous relationships between adults is abuse!

Jokes aside, I agree with you that we don't want antis assuming that we approve of everything as long as its incest. It's not true. As you said, we all have our squicks and boundaries and things we just don't ship for whatever reason. It is important to remember that we have to be careful how we present ourselves in view of the antis because we don't want them getting the wrong idea about anything.

But I think the curve analogy still works well among us incest shippers. Even when grading on a curve, there are failing grades. For me, it just means we've had to lower out standards of what might be considered an A or B. Fortunately there's some good stuff out there and we don't have to lower too low.

[serickswrites]

Hiiii Serick! Gotta say, I loved those last one-shots Wash and Walls! Top-tier caretaking right there! <33

I am here to humbly request that you continue that one from that last ask I sent you with the two whumpers that hate each other. I neeeeeed to know what they're gonna do to poor poor whumpee >:3

Of course, no rush to answer, and I don't know when you'll read this but happy holidays to you!

-Blue

BLUE! BLUE! Yay, I am so glad you enjoyed the answer to the ask you sent me! (I know you wrote this ages ago, I have fallen so behind on keeping up with asks). And thank you for your thoughts on 'Wash' and 'Walls'. They were fun to write, and tbh I was a little proud of them, lol (I am getting a little more confident in my writing these days, sometimes lol). Please always ask away! I fall behind, forget to check my inbox. Prompts really help me sometimes when I'm feeling a little stuck (as I am these days with things irl, it makes writing hard sometimes).

I hope you had a good holiday season, Blue! My colorful friend! Please enjoy part 2 (and however many parts this one ends up being, and if you want it to continue, please send your squicks so that way I don't accidentally give you the ick!)

Part 1 Part 3 Part 4 Part 5 Part 6 Part 7

Warnings: kidnapping, restraints, gag, talk of torture, threat of violence, two whumpers

Any moment now. Any moment now, Whumpee was going to walk by in search of Second Whumper. And then Whumper would pounce. Whumpee would be theirs once more. Theirs and this time there would be no escape.

Because of Second Whumper. Whumper loathed having to work with Second Whumper. Loathed everything about it. But if it meant catching Whumpee, perhaps it was worth it.

Whumper heard Whumpee's soft footsteps before they saw Whumpee. Now was their moment.

Without hesitating, Whumper leapt out of the bushes, arms immediately going around Whumpee. With a snarl, they quickly grabbed Whumpee and leapt back into the bushes.

"LET ME GO! OFF! NOW!" Whumpee roared as they struggled in Whumper's arms.

Whumper struggled against Whumpee. They weren't about to let go of Whumpee. They weren't going to let Whumpee escape. Not this time.

Whumper quickly began to try to bind Whumpee's arms behind their back, putting a knee in the small of Whumpee's back and putting all their weight on their knee to keep Whumpee pinned.

Whumpee still flailed and struggled, but they began to pant. Being held prone made it difficult to breathe. "LET ME GO!" They wheezed, their words becoming softer and quieter.

Whumper grinned as they bound Whumpee's wrists tightly. This was exactly how they wanted Whumpee. They would get Whumpee back to the warehouse and then they could have their way with Whumpee. Bring Whumpee to their knees. Have them begging. Whumper delighted knowing that they had finally won for once.

Suddenly Second Whumper appeared, dirty rag in hand. They shoved it in Whumpee's mouth quickly as Whumper glared up at them. "Can't have them making too much noise," Second Whumper offered when Whumper just stared at them.

They nodded. Second Whumper, loathe as they wanted to admit, was right. "Where's the car?"

Second Whumper smiled. "Just right over there." They knelt down near Whumpee's face. Whumpee glared and struggled around the rag in their mouth. "Ah, ah, Whumpee," Second Whumper cupped Whumpee's cheek softly, "save some of that for me for later. We are going to have some fun."

Tags: @its-getting-worse

[fangirlinginleatherboots]

Have you watched any of Hazbin Hotel or Helluva Boss? If not, would you like me to send you a link to where you can find them? They're both really good yet different shows set in the same universe and I'd love to hear your take on the shows and their characters

I've watched both and they are... okay. There is definitely something there but it's buried under some clunky, forced sequences. Songs did not transition into the scenes well and there's this thing they do where they bounce the frame around in a long shot of a complex motion instead of the animation moving smoothly with the camera that irks me. Like the angle stays the same, there is no depth to the motion because they're moving the camera around on a wider image. Its serving... 2008 amv.

It also was... undeniably fetishistic about its handling of organized sexual abuse. It takes a lot to squick me out with SA content in animation and there's once sequence with angel that just. Ick. I've read Dead doves that felt more compassionate towards organized abuse than that.

That being said, I really like the characters in Hazbin and enjoyed the voice acting. The voices save every moment where the pacing and dialog fail.

I find helluva to be the better produced and more cohesive stylistically of the two. This passes as show that could be on television and is more casual in tone. Hazbin felt like it was trying to achieve philosophical merit when the point underneath it wasn't challenging at all whereas helluva had more depth to the interpersonal conflict and created meaningful themes from that.

I like alastor. And I'm interested in the lore and enjoy the nostalgia that comes from the visual chaos of teens in their early deviantart days. Am I a hooked? Nah. Will I watch it for late mealtime background noise and appreciate fan art for? Sure

[jariktig]

3, 7, and 11!

3. a specific color that gives you the ick?

Not sure there is one really - there are ones I don't much like (murky greens, that odd shade of yellow only found in really dramatic nappies, pastel peaches and pinks), but nothing that actively squicks me...

7. what animal do you look forward to seeing when you visit an aquarium?

I've definitely done this one before, but not for you... anyway, turtles, and rays, and eels (I'm a sucker for those tunnels you can walk through and have the rays swim over you, in particular...).

11. anything from your childhood you've held onto?

A surprising number of things, considering the number of changes between then and now... Offspring has my childhood teddy now, but I've still got the very old sleeping bag (with broken zip) that I used to use as a comfort blanket, and a dozen or so books, and a bunch of things we brought back from China (most notably a rather lovely antique embroidery panel that I spent all my Christmas money on and then promptly denuded of its seal of authenticity because I felt it spoiled the look of the thing... that hangs on my bedroom wall now.)

[dinoburger]

HAVE u seen valle verde on YT its lookin PRETTY epic so far other than personally i think the pacing is a bit iff but god i think its well done otherwise. If ur inchrested in like lost old game/analog horror combo stuff u may enjoy it ALTHO. theres like gore and lots of religious imagery, jumpscares and like. 1 scene with p blatant and graphic references 2 abortion so if any of that icks you out be Wary

I have not seen it! I will have to though bc that does sound interesting - I looovvee video game horror

my main squick is jumpscares but... I should be alright, I think my tolerance for them has marginally increased after having to do stuff like, the fucking, jumpscare room in De I Cide...

or like sometimes with Mandela Catalogue I pause the video and scroll ahead to check, or just have it muted with subtitles, maybe that "takes the fun out of it" but I personally do not find heart palpitations very fun even if I like horror a lot