#it's somehow worse than jc

[waitineedaname]

I will happily use the abbreviations for most mxtx characters but I just can't do it for hualian. ah yes my favorite characters (checks abbreviations) Headcanon and Extra Large

[ifellintothestyx]

The funny thing about JC defenders is that they always try to argue that JC refusing to cover the Wens and side with WWX was the correct political move. In the short term, perhaps, but in the long term, that was proven wrong in the books themselves.

(It's even funnier thinking that correct political moves exist in a bullshit political system that blatantly serves only the gentry, is held together by hearsay and rumors, and has no actual system of laws that can serve as a basis to accuse, judge, or punish someone.)

So how was JC's refusal to side with WWX and the Wens considered the "correct political move"? Reasons include that the Jiang sect was still recovering from the war, that going against the Jins would result in another war that would end in major losses on the Jiang sect's side, and that the Wens weren't and shouldn't have been a priority for JC at all.

Let's clear a few things up. The Jiang clan was not the only clan recovering, so were the Nies and the Lans. In the aftermath of the war, it's not explicitly stated how well the other sects were doing, so we couldn't really tell if the Jiangs were worse off than the other three. It could be noted, however, that the Jins retained much of their wealth and influence, so much so that Jin Guangyao was able to take the position of Chief Cultivator with little to no opposition. The main point, though, is that at that moment in the aftermath of the war, we could not easily assume the Jiangs were the worst off, as the other three sects also lost many disciples in the war, and we didn't really know how much the other sects recovered.

For the second reason, if a major war somehow did happen again, this time Jiangs vs everyone else, everyone else would lose. WWX's presence single-handedly helped them win the war against the Wens. A war between the Jiangs and the jianghu would be based on numbers, which reflects the war between the Wens and the jianghu. The Wens had more disciples, and no matter how many LWJs or NMJs you got up your sleeve, numbers make a big difference in war. That's why WWX's skills were a critical part in winning: he is a one-man army of thousands. He could easily make up for the gap in numbers. That's why the Jins kept trying to get rid of him—they were nervous about so much power belonging to only one faction: the Jiangs. JGS couldn't exactly claim his desired role as Chief Cultivator if a younger, smarter, and more powerful individual was still around to keep him in check.

Finally, we get to the part of why I'm making this long-ass post on a caffeine-driven rage. See, the point of trying to stop a powerful faction from committing atrocities is to stop them from thinking they can do it whenever they like. The Jins were given a pass to do whatever the hell they wanted to a small, outcasted faction (the Wens), and they proceeded to take that pass as a pass for everything else. Nobody stopped them from torturing the Wens, so what's stopping them from allowing a mass murderer like XY to run wild in an attempt to create their own WWX? Definitely not NMJ, hahaha, because, y'know, the hypocrites in the gentry have already decided that whatever the Jins do is alright so long as it's not their problem. An exterminated clan isn't their priority. So, what was stopping XY from going out and doing it again to SL's sect? Absolutely nothing! Because the Jins could cover it up and no one could say a word despite how suspicious it was, because hey, remember what happened to the last guy that spoke up against the Jins?

Calling out the Jins on their crimes against the Wens, who were elderly and children save for WQ and WN (who JC owed his damn life and core to), would have created a precedent of not allowing massive crimes to slide under the radar. But because the opposite happened, because nobody fucking realized that apathy and selfishness don't fucking help in the long run, two sects were exterminated because JGS and JGY were basically given an "okay, fine, just keep that bullshit away from us". That's not actual justice. That's not "morally grey". Allowing people in power to trample over others just because it doesn't affect you personally is not sustainable, because what happens when it's you they've decided to trample over? Are you going to complain? Are you going to look to others for help, when you personally couldn't be bothered to offer your hand to those who suffered? When the reason the people trampling over you gained that power is because you allowed it?

The unopposed killing of WWX and the Wens led to the political climate that allowed the massacres of two sects because the Jins were trying to protect and satisfy their pet project. It led to the murder of NMJ because JGS/JGY wanted to keep people from checking their power. If JC couldn't find it in his heart to be sympathetic to the Wens, fine, but at the very least, he should have considered the potential harm in rolling over and giving a political faction too much power.

[symphonyofsilence]

Remember how steadfastly WWX believed that "Jiang Cheng is quite clever. The Wen people can't stop him" that he wondered how Jiang Cheng who had eaten nothing and was going through worse than him could have run so fast that WWX eating and running at the top of his speed couldn't catch him on the way to lotus Pier and decided to believe that Jiang Cheng had somehow developed A-Train powers but never even once entertained the idea that JC might have been captured? He believed in JC's abilities so much (the only one who did. And was vocal about it) that he would believe they had enhanced beyond human abilities but it wouldn't even cross his mind that they might have fallen short of expectations. (Though he didn't believe that firmly in Jiang Cheng's love for him since he even entertained the idea that he might have gone to Meishan without WWX.)

AND HE WAS RIGHT! Jiang Cheng was clever! He had spotted the Wens earlier and he had hidden away and the Wens didn't see him and passed him by! and he wanted to save WWX & he did save WWX. The Wens couldn't stop him.

[wangxianficfinder]

Fic Finder

Aug 11th

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1. Hi guys! This will probably I think goes in the fic finder.

So all I remember is wangxian had gotten together, it was post cannon I think? And they go on a hunt together along with Jiang Cheng or maybe they meet Jiang cheng on the way but either ways, things go wrong and the demon slashes wwx's neck and somehow they all fall down a cliff where lwj and jc try to keep wwx alive.

Thank you!

FOUND? The Warmest Hands by AvoOwO (M, 46k, wangxian, JC & WWX, WWX & LSZ & LWJ, major character injury, hurt WWX, blood & gore, heavy angst w/ happy ending, blindness, PTSD, alcoholism, fights, JC & WWX reconciliation, non-sexual intimacy, tenderness, WIP)

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2. Hi! I hope you are doing well. Please help me find this fic. Wwx erased himself and travel back in time. Wwx saw his parent and they have a little bit conversation, such why the couple never had a child or something. I remember there is a scene where wwx ask ‘how do you know I’m your son?’ then I think csr said ‘I always recognized my husband face everywhere’.

Please help me. Thank you!!!

FOUND? This unrolled threadfic by cerbykerby (WIP)

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3. For a fic finder:

It was during an AU version of the sunshot campaign where people thought that WWX and YLLZ were separate people and LWJ had fallen for both. LWJ decides to gently let down YLLZ but realizes that the two are the same person because he played/recognized wangxian. Thank you for all the help you provide

Number three on the current finder “The Scarlet Lotus” is wrong, the fic im looking for was a one shot. Thank you for the suggestion, may read the suggested fic later to try it out

NOT FOUND The Scarlet Lotus by rainbowninja167 (M, 137k, WangXian, Marriage of Convenience, Secret Identity, Fix-It, Angst with a Happy Ending, It Gets Worse Before It Gets Better, Canon-Typical Violence, canon-typical war crimes, Yunmeng Bros, the mortifying ordeal of getting seduced by your own husband, nonlinear chronology we die like cql, just kidding nobody dies in this fic, Slow Burn, Mutual Pining, Miscommunication)

FOUND! Found the fic, it’s Lan Wangji and the Love(s) of his Life by baobeibaobae (T, 4k, WangXian, Identity Porn, Identity Reveal, Kissing, First Kiss, Marriage Proposal, Love Confessions, Happy Ending, Oblivious WWX, Flirty WWX, Jealous LWJ, Courting Rituals, Idiots in Love, Mutual Pining, JC is a Good Bro). Thank you anyway and have a nice day

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4. Hello! I'm trying to find this fic where WWX was transported into the body of a female Mo Xuanyu and promptly feels dysphoric about it. When LWJ finds him and takes him back to the Cloud Recesses, he helps WWX feel more comfortable and even allows him to change Mo Xuanyu's name into something else. Somewhere by the end of the fic, it's revealed that the reason why LWJ knows so much about "gender cultivation" is because he himself is trans and found ways to help himself transition.

I can't find it anywhere and I don't wanna lose hope in case it's deleted. Thank you for your help!

FOUND! In Reflection, Truth by Shadaras (T, 55k, WangXian, WWX is summoned into a woman's body, Canon-Typical Violence, Canon-Typical Gore, this is a story about being transgender, Dysphoria, Misogynistic Slurs, Ableist Language, it's not slow burn if it's going to be faster than canon, Trans Male Character, Trans wish fulfillment, Canon Divergence - Yunmeng Brothers Have A Real Conversation)

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5. Hii hope you're having a good day!! I was wondering if you could find a fic where wei ying gets his original body back, completely unrecognisable, and decides to stroll around gusu in lan zhans clothing. People see lan zhan and wei ying together and assume that wei ying is a new consort. They later go together to a conference meeting where everyone gets mad because they think lan zhan is cheating

FOUND? Is Your Old Body Considered a Halloween Costume? by The_peregrine_falcon (G, 3k, WangXian, WWX's original body, Junior quartet makes an appearance, LQR's blood pressure is going up, LWJ is chief cultivator, Fluff, Canon Compliant, Post-Canon)

FOUND? How Odd by bedheadrat (M, 35k, WIP, WangXian, Case Fic, Fluff and Smut, BAMF WWX, Protective LWJ, Possessive LWJ, Rich LWJ, Genius WWX, Separation Anxiety, Demonic Cultivation, Evil Plans, Touch-Starved, lwj’s white robes kink, Attempted Kidnapping, Attempted Seduction, Misunderstandings, Not Cheating, Threats, Vandalism, Stealing, Canon Compliant, Post-Canon)

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6. Hello! I sent in this ff a couple months ago with no luck. Hoping to try again to find it! The fic was set during the Cloud Recesses Lectures era and WWX was cursed to lie. Everyone else mistakenly thought he was cursed to only tell the truth, so when he says things like “I hate you” they believe it. WWX gets really depressed that everyone believes that he doesn’t care about them. The curse is eventually broken when LWJ realizes it is a lie curse not a truth curse. If this sounds familiar at all please let me know!

FOUND! A Kiss of True Love to break a Curse by Wangxian101 (T, 5k, WangXian, Teenage Wangxian, Not Canon Compliant, kiss of true love, curse of lies, truth curse, Angst, Fluff, When the only way to break the curse is to kiss, Hurt/Comfort, Emotional Hurt/Comfort, Fluff and Angst, Angst with a Happy Ending, Teen Angst, They are in love your honour, Oblivious WWX, Oblivious LWJ, there is only one brain cell in this group and it belongs to JC, LXC is the biggest wangxian shipper, jc is a good bro, Love Confessions, Getting Together, Gremlin WWX, Happily Every After, LXC will gut anyone who hurts his precious little brother, True Love’s Kiss, JC is an awkward bean, LWJ POV, WWX POV, WWX is a closet romantic, WWX loves his romance novels, Protective JC, JC loves his gremlin brother, Unrequited Love, Requited Unrequited Love, it all works out in the end)

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7. About 4-5 years ago I read a fic where WW awoke as a god of luck/fortune/fate after the siege. He ends up saving a-qing and she ends up following him after "fixing" XXC's soul, as well as XY's soul being stuck in a sword. God!WWX also ended up saving MXY too. The fic is also very long. the first couple of chapters are average length, but the last few are between 30-70k each. @annacakes2

FOUND? despite it all by novalotypo (T, 292k, wangxian, canon divergence, god of luck WWX, memory loss, non-linear narrative, WIP)

FOUND? Wuqian, the Local God of Yiling by Grace_ShadowWolf (TaubeLePigeon) (M, 80k, wangxian, WWX & LSZ & LWJ, major character death, canon divergence, angst w/ happy ending, god WWX, Chinese mythology & folklore, pining, temporary character death, WIP)

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8. looking for a fic where jin zixuan is a demonic cultivator? it's an au or canon divergence fic where it was him who got the sword in xuanwu. appreciate all the help you give us <3

FOUND! no step had trodden black by Stratisphyre (T, 32k, wangxian, LQR & WWX, JYL/JZX, canon divergence, madam lan lives, past rape, golden core reveal, hurt/Comfort, referenced to attempted suicide & suicidal thoughts, canon-typical violence) most likely not this one, as JZX doesn't go full modao (or even guidao) in it, but he does certainly pick up the sword and is influenced by it; just in case this IS the right one, tho, JZX's bit comes up in chapter 3

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9. Hi! This is for fic finder. I dont remember much because i read that around 3 years ago. I hope this is not a mix between wo fic. I think its an arranged marriage story between Wangxian. Every month WWX leaves CRRS to visit the wen without anyone knowing but LWJ (i think he noticed) because LWJ make some arrangement that allows WWX leaves anytime he likes. 1 month and WWX still come back. Just like the following months until LWJ noticed WWX is not coming back. I think before that the two of them has a fight (? Not sure about this). LWJ search for WWX and found him. Instead of make his presence known, LWJ follows WWX in secret. WWX noticed of course and ignore LWJ. A few days like that and WWX relenta and calls LWJ to follow him without hiding. Thats all i can remember. I dont know if its an ao3 fic or thread fic. Thank you @idontknowwhattowriteforusername

9 is right. For the first half is right (wwx leave every few months) but not the second half (LWJ followed wwx while hiding). I think i mixed two different fic. But the "Light of Stars (and the Destroyer)" Is the one i meant. Thanks

FOUND! 🔒 Light of Stars (and the Destroyer) by Sanguis (T, 22k, WangXian, Legends, Arranged Marriage, Pining, Pining for your spouse, Adoption, Canon Divergence, Married Couple)

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10. hello! i was hoping you can help me find this fic where jiang cheng finds wwx’s journal in the burial mounds and he ends up experiencing(?) the events there. i read it ages ago and can’t find it. thank you!

FOUND? Waiting On You by SmellsLikeDeanSpirit (M, 26k, JC & WWX, WangXian, WIP, Graphic Depicitions of Violence, Major Character Death, Angst with a Happy Ending, Memories, Time Travel, Sort Of, the characters watching the show trope but different, WWX has magical diaries that force the reader to experience his memories, JC finds them and reads them, Implied/Referenced Child Abuse, Violence, Canon-Typical Violence, Character Bashing, Bad Parent YZY, YZY Bashing, Canonical Character Death, he comes back tho, JC regrets, JC Needs a Hug, WWX Needs a Hug)

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11. Thank you for all the work you do!! I've been driving myself crazy trying to find this fic. All I remember is one scene. At the Jin banquet, Jiang Cheng allows (sends?) WWX to dual Jin What's His Face. WWX obviously trounces him, but nearly has a flashback, prompting JC to pull him back when he realizes that maybe sending his traumatized brother into that situation wasn't the best plan.

It was either a canon diversion or a JC goes back in time fic, but I can't remember which. It was relatively long and it isn't recent.

Ring any bells for anyone? Thanks!! @kirk-spock-in-the-impala

FOUND? Lynchpin by ShanaStoryteller (Not Rated, 103k, WangXian, JC & WWX, Time Travel, Fix-It) JC went back in time and he realized his mistake about the skirmish like right after it happened. The part that they are looking for is in chapter 2.

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12. Hiii thank you so much for the hardwork you do and I enjoy the fics here. I haven't seen this in fic finder yet. I remember lwj leaving gusu for yiling he brought his own money and it was used to buy food and stuff I think. By the end they sell at the market with kids styling lwj hair and gusu saw this the elders was mad mad with the vanity. Lxc asked for bunnies cause the ones in gusu dissapeared(. Thank so much be well.I wrote this today and there was error if there is two pls ignore 🙏) @ladyxyraine

FOUND? 🔒 Share Your Silence series by Terri Botta (Isilwath) (E, 138k, WangXian, Romance, Everybody Lives, Canon Divergence, LWJ Has Feelings, Protective LWJ, Burial Mounds Settlement Days, LWJ Stays at the Burial Mounds, Burial Mounds Ensemble as Family, WangXian in Love, YLLZ WWX, Lan Clan Elders are Assholes, Minor Transgender Character, Qiongqi Path Divergence, LWJ loves his bunnies, Explicit Sexual Content, Burial Mounds, OCs, Drama, NMJ Qi Deviation, Awesome WQ, The Wen Twins, Wen JunZhu | MinYue (OMC), Wen YanJeng | MinYi (OMC), Fluff and Humor, WWX Has Feelings, Lotus Pier, mention of non-con roleplay, Sexual Roleplay, NMJ Needs a Hug, Nie clan sabers, baxia, Unclean Realm, Protective NHS)

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13. Hi im looking for a specific fic. The fic was on ao3 and was a modern au where Wei Ying realizes he might be a bit gay and kisses lan zhan but then freaks out, and they get a bit awkward. He then goes on to forums to see what others might think of his situation, he tries watching gay porn etc. and finds that he's dreaming of lan zhan. He ends up being jumped by homophobes goes on a drinking binge for the next few days as a result and hears that lan zhan has been staying in his room and hasn't been doing well, wei ying thinks it's because he kissed him but later finds out he sent lan zhan a homophobic message when drunk. Any help would be appreciated!!! @livesformitski

FOUND? it's always open by ScarlettStorm (E, 60k, WangXian, Modern, vague north american setting, First Time, Getting Together, Pining while fucking, Some angst, Happy Ending, not straight boy WWX but not NOT straight boy WWX, not practice kissing but not NOT practice kissing, that feeling when you know you're making bad decisions but keep making them anyway, LWJ FUCKS, Sexual exploration, demi WWX, not that he knows that yet, Kissing, Hand Jobs, Blow Jobs, confused but enthusiastic consent, WWX's not sure about all his options but he's got the spirit, Anal Fingering, Anal Sex, truly absurd amounts of naked pillow talk, switch rights)

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14. Hi!! Thank you for all you do 🫶

I’m looking for a fic that was on ao3. It was one where I think WWX was brothers with Hua Cheng and Luo Binghe and I believe he was a god or something of higher power and as a trial he was born as the WWX we knew and he went through everything he did in canon. When he died he ended up back with Hua Cheng and Luo Binghe but LWJ couldn’t move on and he tried to find him there?

Thank you for your help!! @bigmeatycl0ws

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15. Hi! Kindly help me finding this fic. Wwx teaches the lan juniors to solve arrays. He makes it diffucult to solve so that he can have time with his husband. I think I remember they was a scene where JL ask the Lans how they can easily solves the arrays and then got jealous when he learn it was wwx who taught them.

FOUND? 🔒 A More Practical Approach by Elhana (T, 9k, WangXian, Canon Compliant, Teacher WWX, Humour, POV Multiple, Implied Sexual Content, when you just want to get frisky with your hot husband but your in-laws crave their peace and quiet, huge conflict of interest right there, WWX is resourceful, wuxia magic shenanigans, Post-Canon)

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16. Hey, this is for the fic finder!

I'm trying to look for this specific Lan Xichen/Nie Mingjue fic where NMJ gets reincarnated as NHS' cousin's son and promptly falls in love with LXC all over again. I can't remember the title and I've been trying to look for it so I can reread it ;w; I think Age Difference was tagged and there's scenes where LXC tries to dissuade NMJ from getting together but in the end they get married and NMJ recovers his memories from his past life.

Thank you in advance ;w;

FOUND? Song of us by Ziane (E, 142k, LXC/NMJ, JC/NHS, Post-Canon Fix-It, Explicit Sexual Content, Reincarnation, Happy Ending, Angst, Fluff, Smut, Soulmates References, Pining, Canon-Typical Gore, Novel Spoilers, Slow Burn, Mutual Pining, Flirting, Implied LSZ/LJY, Porn with Feelings)

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17. Hi!! I’m back with another request!

It was an ao3 fic where WWX had left the cultivation world behind because he/she (there was a male and female version I believe) was pregnant with A-Yuan and Jingyi and he/she wanted to give them a better life. LWJ does find them eventually (he’s the father) and he gets to meet the kids. They end up staying together and raising the kids there after LWJ fakes his death @bigmeatycl0ws

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18. Hi! I'm looking for a fic where LWJ and WWX have a sex and a love confession during the sunshot campaign. LWJ visits WWX during one night and asks to let him help WWX with his health after using demonic cultivation. WWX , in a fit of rage and a desperate act to drive away LWJ, behaves crudely and proposition him.... I think the name of the fic was "fool for you"? I'm not sure.

Thanks in advance! @grrumpywoof

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19. Hey! Thank you so much for your hardwork 😊😊

Im searching for a fanfic which is completed

Yu ziyuan is present in the sunshot campaign and wwx invents turtle shields. Yzy tries to show wwx as a traitor but fails.

Can you please help me in finding this fic?

FOUND? Lessons relearned by Iamnotawriter (T, 44k, WangXian, LQR & WWX, Not Madam Yu Friendly, Time Travel Fix-It, Angst with a Happy Ending, Canon-Typical Violence, Implied/Referenced Child Abuse, Inventor WWX, It Gets Worse Before It Gets Better, No Golden Core Transfer, YZY Bashing)

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20. Hello! Could you help me find a fic where pre sunshot campaign ends up in a room to watch the future and 4 juniors from the future join them. The main pairings I remember are Wangxian where Sizhui is there biological child. XiCheng Jingyi is their biological child and of course XuanLi with Jin Ling. No one believes them until they pull their parents swords from their sheaths and explain because Wangxian and XiCheng have high cultivation Wei Wuxian and Jiang Cheng got pregnant. @megdbrew

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[braceletofteeth]

If that was an issue, he could have asked for consent. Tonkla was conscious and talking to them for a long while before he ran out of vital force, and Mark didn't even offer.

Okay I know why u can't take him off the pipe bc he will die from bleeding out quick if the wound opens further

HOWEVER mark kiss heals i feel like the reason they didn't work was because my guy as a PIPE IN HIS CHEST and why would u try to heal the wound with it STILL THERE

[theballadofmars]

RANKING MDZS CHARACTERS AS HOW MUCH I THINK THEY WOULD SURVIVE IN FNAF:

11. MO XUANYU: he dies during the first five minutes. Don't know how. He just does.

10. JIN ZIXUAN: he doesn't listen AT ALL to Phone Guy and just...doesn't do a thing? He probably thinks he's too rich to die.

9. JIANG CHENG: he dies the first night. Just, sorry. He wouldn't follow Phone Guy's instructions at all, or try at the beginning but then gets mad and fights the animatronics. Sorry jc you're not winning this one.

8. NIE MINGJUE: he's not fucking surviving more than 2 nights, I'm sorry. He doesn't know how anything works, he survives the first night by sheer stuborness, but gets out of luck on his second night. He dies fighting thought.

7. XIAO XINGCHENG: he actually gets to the second night, but his problem is that he tries to help the children to move on and, unlike lxc, he gets killed.

6. SON LANG: survives 4 nights, but gets bitten by an animatronic and dies from the injury. He's the only other character who makes it to night 4 this is so funny mdzs character's would be amazing at surviving or terrible.

5. WEI WUXIAN: he ALMOST survives, but he gets scooped in night 5. Idk how, because this is based in fnaf 1, but he gets scooped, 100% sure.

4. LAN WANGJI: is lwj. He doesn't involve himself in the drama like his brother, but is able to survive the 5 nights. Never comes back.

3. LAN XICHEN: weird position, because lxc doesn't look like he would be the best with computers, but he's a Lan. He's not only going to survive the 5 nights, he also saves the souls of the murder children, because he would try to talk to the animatronics and give them therapy sesions.

2. NIE HUAISANG: he actually suffers the first night, because he doesn't know what's going on. The second night tought? He already knows the cheats. He survives and as a plus makes a theory about the lore that it turns out to be true.

1. JIN GUANGYAO: listen, LISTEN. He not only survives the five nights, the extra night and the 20/20 mood. He's jgy. Being a night guard at Freddy's is actually a vacation for him. Animatronics aren't worse than rich people. He even gets bored at night 5.

HONORARY MENTIONS FOR CHARACTERS WHO DOESN'T GET TO BE IN THE RANKING BECAUSE THEY'RE A SPECIAL CASE:

-XUE YANG: this fucker messes with the animatronics ans disassembles them for fun. The animatronics are the ones hiding from him.

-THE FOUR JUNIORS + A-QING: they are the kids possesing the animatronics. Sorry juniors :(

-YANLI: befriends the animatronics somehow. She makes them soup :D

-MIAN MIAN: stays one night, survives, never comes back. They don't pay her enough for this bullshit.

-WANGXIAN: they fuck in the security office and the animatronics are traumatized.

-WEN QING: finds the bodies of the kids and reports it do the police

-WEN NING: look, I think he would get springlocked but wouldn't become a vengative animatronic (unless he's possesed). He's just there behind a wall.

-LAN QIRENG: survives because Lan power, but instead of doing his job as a security guard starts to reprimend the animatronics and tries to teach them THE RULES.

Tgcf characters ranking

[loosingmoreletters]

Hi, anon that sent the JC makes himself believe Wei Wuxian was innocent prompt and that’s absolutely perfect and just what I wanted, you do such a great job of keeping him in character but spiraling his grief into a new direction and I absolutely love, love the whole it’s MDZS canon but like Jiang Cheng has decided it’s actually CQL, I know it was a difficult prompt to work with but thank you for entertaining this idea!!!

I feel like Jin Ling to have an interesting upbringing lol.

Aaah I’m glad to hear that! And yeah, Jin Ling’s childhood would’ve been so interesting because Jiang Cheng’s protective streak would’ve been even worse and Jin Ling wouldn’t have grown up with hearing negative things from Jiang Cheng. Man, I wouldn’t even be surprised if Jiang Cheng would’ve pushed for Jin Ling to become his heir the moment Jin Guangyao’s son was born. He doesn’t trust the Jin, they have their heir now and yeah, even if this is Jin Ling’s birth right, fuck any of that if it doesn’t keep him safe.

And where would Jin Ling be safer than at Lotus Pier?

Is this me pushing my “Jin Ling somehow becomes the Jiang heir” agenda? Absolutely.

[izzy-b-hands]

Feeling slightly better than i have been at this moment (hence being on Tumblr for more than a half second before my body goes 'hm, actually, that's too much. put the phone down or i make u throw up 🥰' as it has been all week since this back pain bullshit began

(more blathering abt this stuff and work and just. general life update as of this week below the cut)

But realised that's probably only bc:

-Housemate (who has been an absolute angel thru all of this and has looked after me better than my own mother ever has tbh), got me some Pedialyte style drinks, and I've made it thru nearly all of one today (a miracle bc the nausea has otherwise been constant even when the pain isn't as bad and has made eating more than like. broth and saltines and gummy edibles basically impossible)

-Im stoned, on a increasing rotation of meds (acetaminophen, ibuprofen, mucinex which it turns out has potential off label use for muscle spasms, as Housemate researched and found out, edibles, magnesium, and now ginger pills to help the nausea) all of which im grateful for but combined leave me feeling less in pain but a bit. idk. blah? brain foggy, more than usual? Tbh it's probably the pain making the brain fog, the pills just can't do anything for that and i don't fault them for that, but for a brain fog example, I've been trying to place an order for some local chocolates to ship to my mum for mother's day, and legit it's taken me ALL WEEK just to get the site open, to the shipping menu, and just today actually putting things in the cart, but I haven't managed to check out yet bc just getting the cart together that made me feel like i needed a nap. This post is the longest thing I've typed in days, and I'm struggling rn to keep going..But i started it, so we're finishing it, back spasm at a level 4 of pain be damned

-and im doing basically nothing aside from stretches (gentle yoga ones i already know the forms for, and some pilates gentle type things i remember from when mum joined that fad lol), using one of our wand vibes on my back (never had done before, they actually do work for that too! kinda fun to find out, just wish i hadn't found out like this!!), laying on a heating pad and wedge pillow, and trying to nap (bc the pain is worse at night so I've somehow been sleeping even worse than i usually tend to)while YT videos and/or the 1973 JCS plays on repeat.

I mention all this bc i work this weekend, and i don't want to have to call out for the first shift tonight. but like. if im struggling just to type this post up (nvm that i have my zine checkin to finish and send in as well, if Nads or anyone else from the group reads this pls know i will make sure i have it done by the due date! it's just been taking. longer, with this back pain mess), keeping my brain on track is difficult rn (as evidenced by...this entire post), and my back is starting to twinge up to a 3-4 overall already bc i let the heating pad turn off, thinking that maybe, just maybe, if I'm feeling okay enough to be on Tumblr then maybe that's a sign this is finally over, and my back is done making life miserable...

then maybe work isn't a great idea. but it scares me every time i have to call in (and I've tried not to unless i absolutely had to, but they're very particular abt ppl basically never calling out, so i know that even if they acknowledged i sounded as sick as i was, that doesn't mean this wouldn't be reason enough to fire me)

I just don't know what to do. i want to work. i want to make money. i also don't want to have to mute my mic bc my back spasms hard enough to make me vomit tho, and that's unfortunately still a very real possibility (spent entirely too much of this week throwing up from the pain tbh!!! not happy abt it, i do not like being sick like that, for any reason!!) The last reason makes me think calling out is the right thing. but. i have a few hours yet, so im gonna see how it goes, acknowledging that i probably do need to call out, whether i like it or not

(if for nothing else, to maybe be recovered for my first set of doubles on Sunday)

[jittyjames]

jami’s whumptober 2023 masterlist

(i finished the planning phase way faster than i thought) (more warnings for each fic will be tagged individually on the actual works, beloveds <3)

swooning/“how many fingers am i holding up?” | jcs | judas never thought joining jesus would result in him being exposed to so many unsightly things (lol i decided to start the month on a more fluffy/humorous note bc these get… dark).

"i'll call out your name, but you won't call back" | hamilton | alexander chases after phantoms

“make it stop” | jcs | something unshakable befalls judas the week of passover.

“you in there?” | hamilton | alexander is left in an unreachable state while john and washington are left to deal.

debris/pinned down | hamilton | alexander has to cope with the aftermath of a terrible battlefield injury.

recording | jcs | the aftermath of judas’ suicide (modern)

“can you hear me?” | hamilton | alexander has a one-sided conversation.

outnumbered | hamilton | that washington fic that’s been sitting in drafts for months.

mistaken identity | jcs | judas is mistaken for someone he couldn’t possibly be.

“can’t you see you’re lost without me? | hamilton | hamburr angst. just hamburr angst. you’re welcome. (sponsored by crys)

animal trap | hamilton | self explanatory

red | jcs | judas has a secret. a very big secret.

“i don’t feel so good.” | hamilton | when philip falls ill while eliza is away, alexander is left spiraling.

water inhalation | hamilton | alexander can handle anything. he can handle insults. he can handle pain. but somehow, they managed to find the one thing he can’t stomach.

suppressed suffering | jcs | the judas hidden injury fic.

“would you lie with me, and just forget the world?” | hamilton | hamburr. alex and aaron share one night as they sit on the brink of the war.

“leave me alone.” | jcs | jesus and judas have an argument that ends worse than others.

tortured for information | hamilton | just another classic prisoner of war fic. y’all know the drill atp :))) (only it’s not with who you think 👀👀)

psychological | les mis | an off handed comment sends marius spiraling through doors he thought long to be closed. les amis de l'ABC are left to pick up the pieces.

found family | jcs | judas has a choice to make when someone from his past resurfaces.

vows | hamilton | aaron vowed to keep their daughter safe.

(alt prompt) drugging | hamilton | the redcoats decide to test out a new sort of weapon on alexander.

shadows | hamilton | the schuyler mansion is overtaken by the enemy.

“i thought he was with you” | jcs | after a riot breaks out, no one can find jesus.

“you’re not delivering a perfect body to the grave.” | jcs | mary prepares for two burials.

working to exhaustion/“you look awful” | hamilton | alexander and aaron both throw themselves into a trial. it would be a lot easier if they could focus on only that instead of each other. (sponsored by xen)

scars/“let me see” | jcs | (judas lives au) jesus comes back and judas can barely stomach the weight of his sins (this was originally based off a nightmare i had and it’s… the darkest thing i’ve ever written. definitely a hat on a hat on a hat trauma wise. be careful with this one, friends.)

(alt prompt) hunting | hamilton | alexander could hear the thundering of footsteps, the bark of their hounds. he only ran faster.

troubled past resurfacing | jcs | the group finds out things they never expected from judas.

borrowed clothing | les mis | marius struggles to get on his feet after leaving his grandfather’s estate.

emptiness | hamilton | alexander reflects on all the suffering he’s endured. (I WENT META LMAOOOOO)

[thedeathdeelers]

my demon reactions on the plane part 2: omg (ep 10)

the way his fingers cover the wedding ring when the hobo tells him he can only get his powers back once dohee dies- like he’s protecting it (and by extension dohee) from whatever fate that is out to get her YEAAAAH

people on shows and movies finding out a person is supernatural and then immediately just…googling it…will always be hilarious

what are u expecting to find m8????

but yeah basically finance guy is bella swan. is what i’m trying to say

anyway i forgot about finance guy and star jin and im sad that im now having to be reminded that they exist

sir it’s illegal to stare at someone with heart eyes as big as those. sir. sir please

“what scared you then?” don’t say don’t say it don’t say it i will CRY

NO HE SAID HE WHILE SHES ASLEEP AND HOLDING HER HAND THIS IS EVEN WORSE

oh no- you just know when they show us one of the characters fully planning out their trip that something will happen and the trip will Not

AAAAAND THERE WE GO. OF COURSE OBSESSED #1 CALLS HER OF COURSE

FINALLY

HE FINALLY TELLS OBSESSED #1 STRAIGHT UP

lol obsessed #2 finally realising obsessed #1 is insane. welcome to the club

yeah im fine. i’m not crying in a plane like a weirdo. i’m cool lol (holy shit hOLY SHIT)

YAY BUT IM ALSO TERRIFIED ITS ONLY EP 10 MOM COME PICK ME UP IM SCARED

OK onto the next one (ep 11)

HE’S LETTING HER DRESS HIM AND SHES CHOOSING LIGHT COLOURS YAAAASS

man idk maybe don’t brag that u won against hobo deity. just a thought

“i would rather forget myself than forget you” ok. ok ok ok . cool (he did both. kinda)

no

noooo nooo wolsim can’t be obsessed #1 right??? she can’t be????? unless she somehow betrayed him in that previous life and it’s why he decided to become a demon- to erase all human emotions and why he’s always hated insignificant humans???

bruh

or it’s totally a mislead idk lmao

“i’ll never leave you no matter what happens” *stares at ‘ep 11’ and starts sweating*

OOH OH IS OBSESSED #2 GONNA GO UNDERCOVER RATHER THAN SWITCH SIDES

CAUSE IF SO HE CAN GO FROM BEING ‘OBSESSED #2’ & ‘FINANCE GUY’ to ‘SEOKHOON OPPA’

sir

SIR

MAYBE WAIT UNTIL YOURE NOT WITHIN EARSHOT TO CALL DOHEE JC IM STRESSED

i hate to say this but seokhoon (oppa 💀) and guwon’s bromance is now …my favourite thing ever. i love this. so much lmao

dammit obsessed #1 is also redeeming herself FFS

“if you ever hurt dohee i’ll become a priest and exorcise you” crap i like him.

DOES HE HEAL HIS ARM?????

….well then. that ending. was. ok. that’s cool. yup 👍🏻

[hei-shu]

The fic:

JC is worse than canon. He captured wwx and a-yuan and tortured/tormented them for more than a decade. He clearly enjoys and actively contributes to WWX's suffering. He brought a dog to torment wwx once and doesn't try again bc he didn't get the desired reaction from wwx. He also still captures and tortures ppl who remind him of wwx. The fic clearly condemns his actions.

The comment:

Sure JC has done some bad things, but he didn't kill wwx and a-yuan when he could, and he only tormented wwx with a dog, like, one time, so he clearly didn't enjoy it bc it hurts him to see wwx like that. I'm not saying he's a good guy, but he's a complex character 🫤

My brother in Christ It's been 15 chapters and somehow that is what you got from it?? The fucking lengths ppl go through to make JC look sympathetic is fucking ridiculous. Oh but he has feelings — even if he does (which he absolutely doesn't in the fic), no one fucking cares, he's still a bad guy. Being a complex character doesn't make him less of a scum.

[qiu-yan]

#I am visiting LXC because if he has candy that means he took the effort to somehow procure it#which means he is anticipating trick-or-treaters#and the only thing worse that him being forced to engage in unwanted social interactions#would be if he were expecting social interactions but nobody came to see him at all#JC is a close second bc it is my belief that he’s cranky bc this is the first year where JL is old enough to trick-or-treat without him#and meanwhile he’s aggressively ignoring that his brother is having a birthday party which he possibly wasn’t invited to#someone needs to loudly gush about the candy he’s giving out and say how much better it is than what LWJ is distributing tags via @poorlittleyaoyao

[the-firebird69]

And it is stifling him somehow. So they wanna see how it is and he's trying to check and they sorta get something they're kinda running the whole show and they're letting them so he's upset and they still don't feel like doing the money as a matter of fact they say it's worse. So it's worse but you're supposed to pay him as Washington and you couldn't and Trump was backstabbing you back then and Dave was robbing him. And Dave was having you hit him and you guys were getting stuff from it. And he says so you see the correlation so yeah I've been explaining it without saying exactly what it is and he said ohh yeah a smart guy then he's getting upset saying that's what he's doing anyways and he suddenly got something it's probably raining this stuff himself because nobody's doing a damn thing for him and it's sort of like they were doing a lot of the rating and JC and Mary got a bunch of it but it's their share. So I was having trouble with BJA who thinks he doesn't have to share anything with our son even though he's due the money. and we're gonna come out to the point where it should be issued and a sunset is the right number of months for the three events well two events were 4 months really it's three and a half and He'd only be off by a couple weeks and they wanna issue a certain number. Those events have happened and the correlation has been drawn and the money back then was taken and it was taken out during the battle and it was used but it wasn't used as of July 5th we say July 15th which is still coming up. So might be a little bit longer and he did that on purpose to cover up what he did and it's waiting for other money to come in and it was his own money he sent for. Curious too because he did send for money and from Massachusetts yes. Is that for a bunch of it from Westboro and our son has two so people can be looking at that and it's going to be interesting and it's going to be very different than what people think. The money that George sent away for in Westborough was pretty big money it represented a decent amount of his savings and if you say it that way about our son it would be a big money but his his money was from a certain source and it was from selling land and our son doesn't have land and he didn't have a house I had one in Cranston but that was money he already got and he got the full amount he thinks and they sent a bunch of money he sold the house for around a $150,000 and they sent about $80,000 but this is just different this is not Massachusetts but this is where the Lynn was the land was there in Rhode Island And they are not necessarily the ones who sent the money no they did but he says if they didn't send me the full amount then they owe me more money and it's true they owe him the money they did not send plus interest which is$70,000 over the period of 23 years and then accrues monthly at the mortgage it's around $220,000

[chriswaddell]

BLOG 8 - November 28, 2023: “A love letter.”

Dear Canaan,

After dropping you off at home, I quickly pulled off into the car wash parking lot a block and a half away to write you this letter.

After telling you today about my plans and asking you about what we should do or how plans should go, you offered no changes other than the potential for JC to meet you sooner to help you with your movie. I told you about a plan of taking you home and allowing you and into both work on stuff so that we had (most of) the weekend without worry. You acted like it wasn’t a problem. After I got us food and started to Evansville, you asked if I was taking you home. I, confused that you didn’t know, said yes. You became quiet, stiff and distant. I asked you if you wanted to stay instead and got nothing.

Upon pulling into your driveway, you quickly gathered your things and proceeded to leave but not before quipping “thanks for the hug and the kiss goodbye.”

I get being upset, but not when you were given options, choices and could always speak up on what you wanted to do. Literally every time we say goodbye when I’m dropping you off, we both lean over the center console and hug and kiss. You didn’t do that and instead played the card you did.

I don’t want to take blame for this one. That’s why I left your house and that’s why I’m writing this letter. Maybe I’ll read it to you. Maybe I won’t. It won’t do any good.

Last time you left me like this I waited for three hours outside your house because I felt like somehow I did something wrong. Not this time. I know I’ve done nothing wrong. And I’m way too fragile to argue about why. Especially when I don’t think you’ll get me.

I hear different versions of “if you can’t handle (this or that), we won’t work, etc etc” nearly every time we’re together. I hate that… because I feel like we can overcome anything if we’re caring for each other’s feelings. The more time progresses, the more I’m becoming concerned that your compassion for my feelings may never take precedent over you being “right.” One problem we cannot overcome if we don’t work on it is our communication issues. I do feel like they’re getting worse.

It’s going to be difficult to explain since, I feel like it’s a one-way street. I think I’ve been open and honest and up for hearing opinions. You won’t give opinions, very few suggestions, refuse to initiate anything really in regards to our relationship and then get drastically upset at me for making moves. If I’m reading this to you now, you may be rolling your eyes, laughing or snickering at my thoughts. But I feel this way. Please understand me.

It’s important that whatever our future, bright or dim, that you know not only am I wanting it to work… but I’m actively working on it, but I do feel like I’m the only one. Sometimes I think your trauma has created an un-winnable situation for us or potential future relationships. I know I’m the rebound from the last one. I know you don’t need a relationship. I know your trauma. I know your stress and I know your pressure. But I’m not trying to add to it. I’m trying to be your partner and help alleviate some of the craziness.

You’re just simply not letting me.

Sometimes, like tonight, I get the impression that you keep me around to hope I change or that I’m going to suddenly be different. Or maybe because I’ve been helping you with some things… goddamn I don’t want to think that way. It’s a pretty sickening thought.

Just know that I love you and I mean it.

Sincerely,

Your’s.

[runespoor7]

I saw a couple people wonder “what about JGY” and “what about JGY and NMJ”, and the thought wouldn't leave me alone.

It would be different depending on whether JZX was at the path or not. If he was, JGY  will be able to utilize the growing coldness between JZX and his father to ingratiate himself further, so that's good for him. In the AU I described, however, I think JZX wasn't there, and so he and JYL are still at Jinlintai. (This is relevant to my JC characterization in that AU.)

For further context, I don’t remember a scene in novel canon where JGY is kept from holding JL, so that doesn’t happen. JGY is made to be in a position to hold bb!JL by JZX; Madam Jin never relinquishes JL to him but that’s unsurprising; JGS rarely holds his grandson either (and never misses an opportunity to make JGY feel unwelcome.)

My usual reading of the text is that JGS dies because his actions resulted in JGY committing unknowing, unwilling incest. That violation of the social rules of family, the fact that because of his father JGY is already “outside” of the proper moral/social order of family, is what allows JGY to kill him. That’s what I’m going with here too. JGY isn't married yet, so...

this got too long

with LXC gone, there’s no-one left to play the world's worst mediator between NMJ and JGY. This is a very weird time between the two of them, but they bond over 100% agreeing that something must be done against LXC’s murderer. JGY doesn't have the pull to get to WWX in Cloud Recesses (LWJ has very different relations to his brother's sworn brothers than NHS would. What's a JGY. Why are you talking to me. NMJ is on thin ice but he does start with a higher LWJ-acceptance ratio at least), and NMJ refuses to assassinate WWX when LWJ has already taken his decision and imprisoned him. It’s not what NMJ would have chosen himself, but it is fitting of the Lans. LXC would have okayed that.

2. This also means that when JGS asks JGY to remove his sworn brother due to NMJ making a fuss about XY, JGY can argue that NMJ was okay with WWX surviving! (NMJ doesn't like that, even though what LWJ retorted in public about WWX’s actions being different from XY stands) they proceed to have the world’s most ill-advised angry kiss. 

Neither of them deals particularly well! 

JGY has sex issues! Cutsleeve sex would make him lose so many points with his father! NMJ is mortified that somehow hostility turned into acting on desire! (“but it’s not like this is bc of the hostility, you already thought he was attractive when he worked for you” okay but that makes it worse, you do understand how that makes it worse right? “he’s no longer under you tho also he’s your sworn brother you're basically equals” first of all phrasing, second of all NMJ isn't listening to this.)

3. Also JGY did not get access to a handy poison/assassination technique, so getting rid of NMJ for his father is, hm. Not doable. It's too early in the timeline for JGY to consider removing his father (he’s not married to Qin Su yet, he doesn't know about the surprise incest, there is no way he will patricide if his father). So it is legitimately a terrible time for Jin “I can do everything on my own and if a solution involves even the slightest social loss on my part it doesn’t exist” Guangyao. Can't remove his father, can't remove NMJ. (He considers having NMJ poisoned the regular way, maybe by having someone sell Huaisang “medicine” for his brother that would aggravate his condition in the medium term, but he abandons it because it’s just not direct enough, and the problem with WQ being alive is that NHS might tantrum that she checks on NMJ’s health.)

That leaves solving the inciting incident, preferably in a way that won't still have his father demanding to get NMJ out of the way afterwards. XY must go. To ensure that, the trick is to create a situation where there’s no possibility but for XY to die. 

JGY isn’t that motivated by keeping XY around since he asked a few vague questions about whether it would be at all possible to maybe possibly bring back someone, and XY laughed. (JGY meant LXC, which he may not have been aware of, but XY’s reaction rubbed him the worst way, so.)

For this JGY brings in JZX. JZX, it should be noted, disagreed with his father in private about what should be done with XY, but the assurance that he’ll be imprisoned/watched/etc (is it so different from what the Lans are doing with WWX?) mellowed him out. 

It’s literally just a matter of engineering a situation where XY acts out against/around the wrong person (JZX the heir; JYL his wife) and XY getting cut down in real time. JGY is aiming for JZX because there’s less risk of JZX being wounded than JYL; he has nothing against his sister-in-law and she would be in actual danger.

4. What happens is that XY sees the trap when it’s sprung and turns against JGY, who gets skewered right and proper. Whoops. Embarrassing. To his pained astonishment, JZX rushes to him shouting for help instead of doing away with XY, who gets away in the confusion.

5. JGY comes back to in his bed. NHS is by his side. From outside the room, JZX is shouting at his father that he’d told his father that XY could not be kept alive, he tried to kill JGY, if JGY hadn’t been there XY might have got to JYL or JL. It’s very dramatic, JGY is properly stunned, but he doesn’t really understand why NHS is here?...

NHS replies that his brother regrets not being able to make the trip, so NHS came instead. To see how JGY is doing. Now that JGY is awake again, he can call JZX back - this is an argument that JZX has been trying to have with his father for days apparently. Days? oh, yes, JGY was out for four days.

JZX rushes back in, thanks JGY profusely. Again, JGY is a little stunned by JZX’s certainty that JGY been hurt protecting JZX’s wife and child, but he’s *sure not going to say otherwise*. (NHS is the one who commented something that allowed JZX to reach this conclusion when JGY was out cold.)

6. (this is JGY, of course he’s going to cheat, pay no attention) JGY is a little hurt that NMJ wasn’t there, after all. He shouldn’t, there’s no reason - except that JGY apparently does think they’re still sworn brothers for real. This is all very confusing. His plan didn’t go exactly the way he wanted re:XY, but with that drama the social dynamics of Jinlintai have been altered. JZX is the rising star now, his influence growing everyday, and JGS’s decisions no longer go unquestioned - and JGY is firmly attached to JZX’s social sphere. His… brother is constanty asking JGY for advice. His sister-in-law has told Madam Jin that she considers JGY her son’s uncle.

Still, after a few weeks of no word from NMJ but visits from NHS and the growing, sinking suspicion of what must have happened to NMJ, for NMJ not to be breaking down JGS’s door bellowing about leaving XY alive… JGY goes to the Cloud Recesses. 

Respectfully asks the sect leader (who is a bit of an ass and demands as much respect as before the Lans lost some of their influence, under his leadership) for permission to borrow their Wen prisoner, the doctor, and bring her to Qinghe, to see to Sect Leader Nie’s health.

In Qinghe NHS explains that LQR is staying over to perform musical cultivation for NMJ. (LQR is throwing himself into saving NMJ the way he couldn’t save LXC. It’s apparent to JGY that something of an odd friendship, or kinship, has grown between LQR and NHS. The loss of a nephew and the threatened loss of an elder brother.)

NMJ wakes up, and smiles when he sees JGY.

There is again an extremely emotional showdown, NMJ admits that he couldn’t stand losing JGY like he lost LXC, praises JGY for his bravery, JGY admits that he was scared of losing NMJ as well. They have emotional sex. (Later, NMJ might say that he thinks JGY acted against XY as a calculation, but - he shrugs - that was good thinking. It was a good thing to get rid of XY anyway.) 

XY is still definitely around so that might be a problem for someone at some point, but he made it out of this story alive! And I gotta tell you, I didn’t think he would.

For the ask meme, au where wwx kills lxc at qiangpi path instead of jzx.

Or gender swap jc au.

Ok, so it took me a while to think this over, because there’s a lot here, and then talking it over with @demoiselledefortune I realized there’s even more than I thought! (still thinking about the genderswap jc one)

Also, poor, poor LWJ. 🙁 (LQR doesn't bear thinking about. That poor, poor man. I don't talk about LQR under the cut because it's too sad for me to contemplate.)

1) So the thing is, this isn’t a noticeably better accidental killing for WWX, because while the Lans may be less the powerhouse than the Jins, JGS will definitely try and use LXC’s death to turn against WWX. And it’s going to be stupidly easy, because LXC was a sect leader and the sworn brother of his son.

(I assume LXC was there because he was invited to JL’s 100 days ceremony and his passing there was a coincidence, while in canon he was already at Jinlintai. So maybe JZX is still in Jinlintai here, the confrontation happening earlier and thus before JZX departed; or JZX is here as well as he was in canon, and LXC was the one running late - in which case, JZX is alive and a witness and might speak up on WWX’s behalf at least to his wife and his BIL, at least to tell them that it seemed an accident. This turns out not to have much of an impact on the grand scale of things OR on JYL and JC’s understanding of what happened, bc they already trust WWX so much, but it does have an impact on JZX’s view of the world and himself. This is less about WWX than it is about politics in general and his father in specific. In that version he’s much more in-the-middle of things, much more aware of being personally dismissed. In that version there’s a chance he and JYL go live in LP.)

Besides the Jins, there’s also NMJ, who is a big fan of his sworn brothers not getting killed and of not shielding people from the consequences of their actions. Just putting it out there where we can see it. On the other hand, they’re not LXC’s most direct family. LWJ and the Lans are, so NMJ lets LWJ take point.

(There's a version of this prompt where NMJ qi-deviates when he hears about LXC's death. In that timeline should WWX get killed NHS' plans never feature bringing him back.)

2) Know for whom LXC dying instead of JZX changes things a lot, though? WQ and WN. When they decide to surrender themselves, they go to Cloud Recesses, not Jinlintai. LWJ and his sect I feel wouldn't punish WQ for LXC’s death. She wasn't there.

(WN, otoh, is very done for. There is no way GSL pulls a Jin to keep him around. He's a fierce corpse and the one who killed their sect leader at that. They execute him/lay his soul to rest. There's no further desacration of WN and that's probably the bitterest comfort WQ could hope for. WQ does try to shield WN when she realizes the Lans aren't planning on executing her, but she doesn't get that.)

WQ would easily get a promise of safety from LWJ for at least A-Yuan, probably Granny, maybe the others - on the sterner end of the scale for the adult cultivators. This is somewhat dependent on what JGS (and NMJ) are clamoring for but JGS wants the Stygian Seal more than he does the Wens and NMJ would be satisfied with the Lans supervising the fate of the Wen remnants. Besides, the most high-profile of the Wen remnants is WQ and she just surrendered herself. WN would say WWX isn’t responsible for LXC’s death, it was a freak resentful energy accident–

3) I think what LWJ does demand about WWX is... that WWX be given over to Gusu Lan. They can lock him up. And purify him of the resentful energy.

LWJ is in a frankly abysmal mental space - it’s only because his cultivation is so orthodox that he doesn't qi deviate. It’s all tearing him up, LXC’s death because of the guy LWJ has a crush on, LWJ’s want for WWX and LWJ’s wish that he could (imitate his father) bring someone back to CR and lock them up and LWJ suddenly being in the horrendous situation where he is imitating his father. The memory of the kiss is now a nightmare. It was always a mixed memory (how shameful, to lose control of himself thus - to take advantage of the one he loved - to lack even the courage to simply ask, either for the kiss, or at least for forgiveness) but now it makes him retch.

It's all twisted in the fact that LXC is dead, because of WWX. There can be nothing between LWJ and WWX now. Simply wishing there could be would be the worst betrayal.

(LWJ remembers the days of their youth, LXC’s delight and gentle teasing at LWJ’s inexplicable liking of WWX. The Water Abyss. And now LXC is dead, because of the boy he was so happy LWJ wanted for a friend. LXC always wanted LWJ to have friends, something akin to his own friendship with NMJ.)

0) (the Problem. The Problem is that I cannot see WWX staying in the Cloud Recesses if he's imprisoned there. If he wouldn't rather die at first, he will afterwards. LWJ thinks of his mother. If WWX dies LWJ would enter seclusion like his father once did. This isn’t something LWJ tells himself consciously.)

4) JC and JYL visit WWX in the Cloud Recesses while he's imprisoned there. JC hates LWJ for it, but I think he's self-aware enough to think “what if it had been Jiejie.” It’s hard to hate LWJ wholeheartedly.

5) WQ is in Cloud Recesses, too. She’ll never live outside the Cloud Recesses again, but it could have been far worse. She’s allowed time with A-Yuan (she is not in forced seclusion and neither is she A-Yuan’s mother but LWJ cannot let himself see them together, or else he starts to think of how she isn’t allowed to raise her kin herself.)

When it comes out *pretty damn early* that WWX doesn’t have a core, she’s the one who implies WZL got him.

(JC is in LWJ’s office clamoring, begging for WWX to be released into the care of YMJ in a hot minute after he finds out - which takes at least one or two visits, because no-one wrote to tell him, and it takes him asking a question about how getting WWX rid of resentful energy and not letting go when the answer’s too cagey to his taste for him to know. If it were just LWJ– but LWJ has elders. plus there’s also LXC’s sworn brothers to contend with; LWJ isn’t thinking of that, and JC will think of it later, after LWJ has refused to return WWX to YMJ.) JC is so so so angry at everyone involved - WWX for *lying to him*, why didn’t you *tell me*, I would have *helped* - WQ for hiding it from him AND not telling him when she told the Lans (to which she retorts that she isn’t exactly allowed a free correspondence. Hmph. Okay. JC allows that. WQ has negative scruples about lying to him about the core rn.) - LWJ for keeping WWX a prisoner here even though WWX is, is, WWX isn’t a cultivator anymore he’s a normal person let YMJ watch over him, let JC - even JYL for having something else in her life that she loves, that isn’t WWX locked up in another sect.

WQ is also the one who sees when WWX is seriously at risk of his life just fading away, and this time she tells JC: if WWX doesn’t get out, he will die.

The fic ends with WQ and JC breaking WWX out of the Cloud Recesses (it’s implied LWJ is looking the other way). WQ stays in CR, of course, but JC is taking WWX to Lotus Pier. There’s no plan for “later”.

[rarepears]

Thinking about your Shen Jiu/Jiang Cheng au:

JC getting flashbacks of SJ's memories. Still wakes up as JC, no personality change, just swears long and loud every time.

LBH having multiple mental breakdowns that SJ/JC knows love and sacrifice, just not for him (again)

When Luo Binghe gives Jiang Cheng a fan, Jiang Cheng scoffs. If he didn't know better, he would think his demon of a husband was connotating him to be as useless and frivolous as Nie Huaisang!

Also Luo Binghe has a mental breakdown over the fact that his cooking will never be considered better than Jiang Yanli's in the Jiang family. He even throws away his pride to ask Jiang Yanli for instructions (and later, help). Alas, it still doesn't work. Luo Binghe can objectively cook better pork rib and lotus soup, but Jiang Yanli's contains all the rich colorful memories and emotions of happier days before Lotus Pier was burned down...

Still, no matter in what life, Luo Binghe finds himself fighting for Shen Jiu's attention and praise and being unable to receive it as he thought he could with just a little more effort. And the vivid display of emotions on Jiang Cheng's face, unbared to the whole world, - very much unlike how Shen Jiu's were all hidden behind his impassive stoic face and a fan - somehow makes everything worse. It's foreign to Luo Binghe; it feels instinctively unnatural.

But he can make it right again, Luo Binghe thinks. He just needs to reawaken Shen Jiu's old memories again, right?

And so he slowly feeds Jiang Cheng dreams of his previous life, of immortality and bamboo forests, green robes and silk fans.

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Wei Wuxian cackles and cackles and cackles with uproarious laughter when he learns that Jiang Cheng has been dreaming about being some Nie Huaisang look-alike, dressed in green robes while living like a Gusu Lan disciple. It's so fucking hilarious, that he doesn't stop teasing his shidi about it for daaaays.

And so Jiang Cheng fully throws all the blame onto Wei Wuxian's feet for why he continues to dream such odd things.

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