#it's giving a fandom hating on a slightly complex female character just bc she's a woman

[dreamingamongthestars]

The amount of anti-orca rhetoric on this site is astounding like don't you all realize you're trying to cancel an apex predator right. A literal animal. Compared to what humans have done to other animals they're docile. They're altruistic to humans. They're matriarchal and everything they do is taught and directed by the eldest female in the pod. Yes, including being ruthless to their prey. God forbid women do ANYTHING

[ca-suffit]

on the topic of it being revealed Claudia hated them both- as a book fan I did want that. however the show isn't the book and people need to respect that. I, for one, even in the midst of rereading the books post s2, (and who has been a fan for over 15 years, and first read the books a decade ago. Not to gatekeep bc I don't believe in that- just reiterating book/movie fan) /prefer the t.v. better/ like I just idfc Louis and Claudia are done better in the show. I do wish we could have gotten that angle from Claudia, because yes original grown woman trapped in a 5 years old body is insane and I was slightly disappointed way back s1 when they aged up even more than Kirstin's Claudia. But like both actresses, the writing, dynamics etc. have been done beautifully. I'd still like to see it because I personally love manipulative resourceful female characters. But we do know in the show pages were ripped out and everyone's unreliable narrators so maybe they are gonna keep it for s3 or something But even if they do that angle... I don't think most would think her a villain? I think a lot of ""the point"" of many of the characters isn't like mutual abuse or justification, but just literally that f*ck*d up traumatized people are terrible to each other with waves of good vs bad (in terms of the armand-louis-lestat type cluster). I think the only people to demonize her would be racists and sexists. I saw another post shared saying how good it is to have Louis as a black villain so I don't know why we can't have Claudia also as a black villain, that feels sort of like an internal sexist take

I think there's still room--and it's basically been hinted at by cast and crew too by now--that the diaries or at least Claudia's "voice" somehow will return again like they do in the books. I definitely think we're gonna see more of her rage. hope she fucks everyone up.

And, ya, what u wrote about how all the characters are meant to be complex and traumatized. the only ppl rly putting them in boxes *are* typically those who see the show thru their racial / gender biases, conscious or not. that's why it helps to have awareness of what these biases look like and listen when the fandom talks about it, cuz it's beeeeen talked about. hell, the show even spelled it out in the trial. lestat is saying how similar he and claudia are....but it doesn't help her and she brings attention to that too. that flew past a lot of ppl watching, who only saw it as a cute moment of lestat being a good dad, ffs.

there was some post shortly after the trial that was saying how many ppl it took to control lestat during it, and yet claudia took him out p much by herself in the body of a teenager too. ppl don't give claudia enough credit for shit. she was praised more as a white girl but the moment she's doing even *more* as a black girl, the fandom writes it off and says it's too mean and manipulative.....when she literally learned it from lestat, who already has multiple tiktok remixes of all *his* moments otherwise 5 secs after they ever air. even the ones that are racist as fuck.