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deoidesign · 6 months ago
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I have freaking silly little guy disease...
After a full day of work (drawing them) I relax and draw for fun (drawing them)
ON GOD I am going to create and fuel my own fandom. If every post in the tag is mine so be it but it will not be empty. drink from my cup.
Such a big fan I'm making their whole comic and then some
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danrifics · 1 year ago
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you all pestered me for it and here it is. the closeness analysis/ theory.
now if you didn't see I basically had this theory that the closer to BIG and COTY we get in the DAPG timeline the closer dan and phil sit to each other. Dan made a comment about how them playing Heartthrob being like a gay soft launch and that got me thinking of some other ways they could have done it and one of those being the idea that as time goes on you get less and less strict and worrisome about what others think of you and so they end up gravitating closer and closer.
This post will be under a see more cos its probably gonna be long af.
I will be splitting it into stages.
2014 -15
2016 - 17
2018
revival
sorry the screenshots arent clickable to make bigger tumblr only allows for 30 on a post so i had to group them together!
(i will not be covering horror games apart from in the revival stage and i will also not be talking much about gamingmas 2023)
2014 - 15
now when i initially went to collect my evidence, i was suddenly worried maybe i kinda had things wrong because i feel like in Donkey Kong Country (the first dapg video, see screenshot below) they're sat pretty close but honestly when we get to how they sit a lot later on you'll see that this is actually pretty far apart
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now here are some screenshots for the inital look at at the end of them we'll talk (this will be the layout for most of this post i think)
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now of course this is only a selection of those year's videos if i screenshotted them all i fear this post would never end. now these first 2 years are a good mix of at desk videos on sofa videos. i noticed from some other videos not show here that in sofa videos they rend to sit a lot closer to each other than they do at the desk, this is kinda funny to me cos really they definitely have room for a wider frame on the couch if they wanted to sit like normal people.
2016 - 17
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2016 and the start of 2017 feel like a mixed bag of how close together they are but i did notice that the more into 2017 we got the more they seemed to be shoulder to shoulder! these also started to wean out sofa sitting games (not 100% gone yet but almost). now if you're wondering why i've kept this screenshot apart its cos this is the last one in the first london apartment.
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and honestly from here on out is where i believe the "soft launching" begins!
so lets finish 2017 and see if im right!
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just had to single out this screenshot for a sec:
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in case anyone wondered that is the face dan made during dream daddy when phil reads "we were roommates for a while too"
softlaunch?
anyway moving on
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watching these videos definitely feels like something changed btw, while they still arent as close as we'll start seeing them sit, i definitely noticed more often they were shoulder to shoulder. but like a new room has definitely changed the vibe a little bit between them, and now we can move on to the next and final year of pre hiatus dapg, where things as you will see immediately start to change.
2018
like i said... immediately we are met with this, i would also like to let everyone know that 2018 is my favourite era of pre hiatus dapg
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lets see what the rest of this year will bring
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now i'm splitting 2018 up into parts because i need to do a whole talk about the tour situations so for now lets look at the above screenshots, now its very obvious that they are sitting so much closer to each other which i think is really funny considering how big that room is and often in this section of videos there is a lot of room either side of them so they literally do not need to be that close.
now lets talk about the tour bus. this is how close they're sitting
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thats for sure a 1 person seat yet they've both forced themselves on even tho the sofa literally behind them would have been perfectly fine to sit on, and they cant give me "this is the only place to set up the camera" babe its really not theres a whole surface behind you.
okay thank you for listening to this, moving on to the final part of 2018!
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(the last 2 screenshots are out of order oops)
idk about you but yeah i think they are definetly a lot closer than they were way back in 2014. i really dont have a lot to say other than that, and i have definetly proven my theory so now we've established that lets have a brief look at post hiatus dapg!
Revival
Now this is gonna be really brief its just a summary of where we are post BIG/COTY and post hiatus (things my brain still cant quite believe is real)
now here are the revival moments i wanna give a mention!
firstly sims season ep 3 when dan moves his chair away from phil and their wheels are literally locked together, pushing phil's chair too
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heres dan looking into the monitor and then moving closer to phil <3
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and finally
hand hold
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thanks for reading all this and sorry if it didnt live up to the hype lmao
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bi-hop · 6 months ago
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more points to kabru npd:
hes always so proud of his people reading skills thats why he compliments people really well because he thinks when he like designates a person who is cool then that person is pretty cool and if they arent and hes wrong he will be upset with himself.
so I know he would def help with Laios' self esteem lmaoo
Laios: ughhhrhr this is so hard. im a terrible king why did they let me do--
Kabru: You're not a terrible king, your highness. You're doing a fine job. The people love you.
Laios: ... ah
Kabru: You can trust me, right. I'm your aide, you trust me to follow you and help you and I'm still here by your side. (I am always right in my judgement)
Laios: okay... Thanks Kabru.
Kabru: anytime, Lai-- Your majesty.
Laios: stop it
Kabru: let me be formal
he loves others. he loves himself and he has to make them feel loved too or else he'll feel like shit
very real. I always circle back to that one comic with them but it's so funny how Kabru's like "... this moron... I said you'd be a good king ^^ I said we're friends ^^ don't doubt my judgment" and then Rin's in the back like "what the fuck is he talking about...." peak fiction. great analysis
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pegaace · 1 year ago
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Analysis on Witch from Mercury, Colonialism, The Tempest, and Caliba(r)n
Okay I know this is my first post ever but I was tryna find somewhere to put my thoughts after seeing a bunch of people everywhere slander Caliban and why that is not it and how my boi is innocent, good actually. For qualifications I did an undergrad lit class that covered The Tempest like 2 years ago so that's fine right (apologies to my profs if I fuck any of this up)
Okay so for starters yes by now everyone knows WfM is The Tempest, Prospera is Prospero (or Prospera actually, there was a 2010 film adaptation that had the gender switch already), Aerial is Ariel, etc etc. So therefore Caliban has to be this villainous, "monstrous" creature right?
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Haha no sit down cos no that would be boring. (and also kinda racist as I'll explain) Notice how in the original Prospero isn't the villain of the story, not really, he's just getting revenge for being wronged years ago and trying to ship the kids together. But if recent gwitch is any indication, Prospera truly is the villain of this story, breaking hearts and stopping at nothing to destroy the Benerit group AND earth. Now I wonder which other adaptation of The Tempest has Prospero as the big bad HMMMM :thinking:
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Enter Aime Cesaire and A Tempest. Written in 1969, it deals with a lot of the more unpleasant connotations of Shakespeares play. Let me lay it all out for you. So you're saying Prospero, a white dude, comes to this island, uses his western magic to overthrow the native witch (Sycorax), wrecks the land of its magic, and then enslaves her son to do his work for him, constantly insulting his appearance and intelligence? HMMMM seems pretty sus (racist and colonial) to me.
Cesaire, writing during a time of decolonial movements throughout the world, was rightfully really mad at colonizers for forcing their way upon natives with violence, and especially with the use of language to control said populations. Caliban has also been repeatedly dehumanised through previous adaptations of Shakespeares work slowly turning him from a man into a monster, not even human. This is similar to how non-european people have constantly been treated in the past.
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Now like wait... Forcing communication through a set language? Dehumanisation? Colonisation of oppressed peoples? Where have we seen that before...? HMMMM
(its almost like... permet scores and gundam technology... Calibarn being free of permet links is like Caliban refusing language...)
And here's where I see the great potential of a Gundam Caliban. Gundam is certainly no stranger to decolonial movements (shoutout to my fave Gundam ZZ and the bois in Blue team and the African liberation front) and I think having Caliban as the Gundam to finally end Spacian oppression (perhaps in a sequel idk if Suletta is getting that far after bonking her mom by the end of the season) would be a great take.
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As a side note, Aerial is kinda portrayed negatively in Cesaire's work for choosing to work for Prospero in exchange for their own freedom, as kind of a sellout who makes things worse and is ultimately tricked and trapped anyways and... hey! She's in a giant coffin now and Suletta is unhappier than ever! Oops.
Also like I qrted this on my twt but like its important to remember that Caliban is human too, and will respond to accordingly. They (and this might be where i disagree with @adracat a lil on their otherwise excellent posts) arent just a violent unthinking monster, thats just unfortunately how racism often portrays people of colour. If Suletta shows compassion and humanity towards Calibarn, like how she did to Aerial, and how Eri was able to connect with Lfrith in the prologue when Vanadis had failed, I'm sure she'll be able to bring Calibarn over to her side. And because they can connect so fully via human emotions and love (this is where I do agree with adra that love is the answer and key to open the door) (wooo yeah another love powered robot!! G Gundamming time) I dont think Quiet Zero will be able to stop them, as Suletta will have made the ultimate, unmediated connection between woman and machine, becoming one with it in the way Cardo Nabo had always truly hoped for. To don Gundam and live in space.
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Okay sorry for the disorganised post but like one last thing I know I said it'd be nice for Calibarn to show up again in S2 but the other theory I have (which might or might not be true cos lets be real gwitch only rhymes, never copies, and i dont even know where schwarzette fits into all this [goatmom gundam my beloved i miss schwarzletta theory still]) is that the ending of A Tempest has Prospero send the girlies off as usual, but then still choose to stay on the island to fight with Caliban forever, till he can finally fully dominate him, cos racists are shit like that. This continues for a rlly long time cos his magics kinda prevent him from just dying of old age and he lives on, like a vampire sucking life from the island (wow capitalism huh) and its implied he and Caliban are just locked in this long struggle to the death until the day he finally croaks and the colonized can finally be free. Now what other gundam has an eternal struggle with fascism hmm?
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idk just thought it might be cool for the gundam sisters to push suletta out of the way (maybe out of quiet zero?) whilst trapping prosperas grudge within it for all time, that would also be dramatic and neat lol. Come to think of it if Prospera does it itd be like ZZ again too lol with Haman pushing Judau away.
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gokubrain · 1 year ago
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hello!! i wanted to ask what you think about the cell arc and cell in general :-) it’s my absolute favorite arc and i just love cell so much, i don’t have anyone to discuss my dragon ball thoughts with so i’m excited to hear what you have to say😄
HELLO i have lots to say so buckle in LOL
overall, when ranking the Z arcs, i unfortunately have to put cell arc at the bottom. THAT DOESN’T MEAN ITS BAD BY ANY MEANS THOUGH !!! i love the cell arc, i love cell, i love gohan, i love trunks, i love the androids. its just that when i compare it to the other arcs, it falls a little short lol..
i think the reason i rank it so low compared to other arcs largely has to do with goku and vegeta’s (separate) character arcs lol. it’s both of their WORST arcs by far. neither of them are ever present, and when they are present… theyre not making the best decisions lmfao specifically vegeta man i cannot STAND him in cell arc he really really gets on my nerves. goku is more understandable and requires a deeper explanation but vegeta simply just SUCKS in this arc lmfao
this is gohan’s best arc tho by far. and if ur a fan of side characters like piccolo and krillin then cell arc is a great arc for u ! this is basically everyone’s best arc but goku n vegeta lolol
dont even get me started on cell himself.. >_< 💕 he’s such a handsome guy lol there’s a lot of weird homosexual tension between him and goku for some reason IM NOT COMPLAINING THO i eat that shit up im a cellku lover til death 🔥✊
also i love trunks so much omg literally one of the best characters in fiction period. full stop. i adore that boy 🫶
i guess i’ll discuss the goku senzu scene too LMFAO .. since it needs to be said…… people are incredibly harsh on goku for giving cell a senzu bean. like, TOO harsh. he wasn’t doing it maliciously and he wasn’t doing it out of stupidity, as everyone in this dumbass fandom claims. goku is smart okay if you disagree thats fine but ur wrong, he’s very smart when it comes to battle and he wasn’t really considering gohan’s feelings about fighting when planning to awaken ssj2 in him. like .. okay .. the way i see it is that goku’s whole existence revolves around fighting and battle and growing stronger. its all he thinks about all day every day. and to want his son to be as strong as he can be isn’t an act of selfishness, it’s goku’s way of trying to help and bond with gohan. his heart is in the right place seriously he isnt trying to be selfish at all its just… actually a very smart way to approach it, its just that goku wasn’t really considering what gohan wanted because he couldnt fathom anyone not wanting to grow in strength.. he is proud of gohan and wants him to be the best he can be.. idc idc goku is a good dad. we all fuck up sometimes okay he’s a way better dad than fucking vegeta by any and all measure i’m sorry its true tho lol i’d go into this more but i feel kinda weird having this whole analysis of one scene in the middle of this otherwise brief arc review so 😭 i’ll move on
all in all cell arc is rly great, theres constantly shit happening and everyone is in deep distress 100% of the time which is rly entertaining to watch lmao its also a great arc for a lot of characters, other z fighters who arent goku and vegeta get the chance to shine in this arc and thats epic. unfortunately tho vegeta is unbearable and goku is …. debatably questionable in this arc so it goes at the bottom for me 💔 still adore it tho
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daemonwritesstuff · 7 months ago
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MATCHUP TRADE WITH @sugutoad - 100% completed
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A/N: Hi Anna! im so happy to do yet another trade with you! these are so fun to do and hopefully we can do more soon haha. I hope you enjoy this so much as much as I did with mine.
HARRY POTTER FAMILY ANALYSIS
Your Significant Other Is…
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You have been matched with Regulus Black! After some thinking about your other HP matches he seemed like a more better fit for you.
Kallias Black!
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The oldest child and brother! aka Regulus and Annas first child! He was born after you guys got married, He went to school the same time as the boy who lived did. they arent really close together since Kallias despises him for some reason. He is also Regulus's favorite child (he loves all his children ok??). Regulus was over the moon when he found out his son got into slytherin, He's very proud of his kids, even if they dont know. Kallias can get a bit too angry sometimes but calms down right away when his parents comfort him, he would do anything to make his mom and dad proud.
Illiana Black!
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The second and oldest child! the sweet and intellegent child of Anna and Regulus Black. She daydreams a lot because you know... she dreams a lot, and she can acheive those dreams! She's really good at all of her classes, the black family is very intellegent. She's always with her pet dog, Sirius, which annoys her uncle sometimes and Regulus is super happy about haha.
Fayette Black!
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The Third Daughter of Anna and Regulus Black! She's known for being super rebellious and mischievous. She gets in trouble a lot or playing with other peoples wands or causing chaos. She reminds Regulus to much like his Brother Sirius, they're just too alike! but it doesn't nessacarly make him annoyed or angered, he loves his daughter so much, he probably has to stop some arguments with her siblings. Regulus is a girl dad frfr.
Dorian Black!
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Second Son and The Fourth Child! I think Kallias got a little jealous and upset when he got told that he's gonna have a younger brother, he wants to be the only son! enough with that though... Dorian is the peacemaker, he's everyone's favorite even if they don't show it, he's super popular In school and he knows it! He can be a little shy around people he doesn't know, so when his mom or dad is around he'll always hide or stay beside them, its so cute to regulus and Anna haha. He has to be forced to do his work or he'll be grounded which causes him to whine for a while but eventually stops. You always have to cook vegetarian meals for Dorian sinces he Vegetarian which you and regulus are fine with of course.
Nyla Black!
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The Last and Youngest Child of Regulus and Anna Black! The cutest child in the house, you guys spoil her a lot and she turned out to be a cute yet has no brain cells kinda bimbo. But shes very hardworking and Regulus is very proud of that as well. She's probably the first person in the black family to want to do more independent things in the house. one time when her boundries were being pushed too far she scared the person with some scary figure and lets say that person never came back...
Raising a Child — before, during and after
Regulus was probably only present for the three of his kids birth after Voldemort controlled his mind into maddness
It was hard to raise 3 kids on your own, you had help from his brother Sirius, and some other family members but it was still hard without having the father present.
But before that they raised their children with so much love that it would blind you. They would take their children to places they wanted to go and they would also buy their children as many toys they want
While Regulus was away, Anna did everything she could to make her kids not forget their father, she would tell stories about Regulus when they met at Hogwarts, how their dates were, etc...
After a while Regulus came back and there were a lot of tears... of happiness of course, it was good for Regulus to be back with his family again, he never let you guys go when he came back.
He would take his kids for ice cream and to the park on the best summer days possible, he even takes them to the pool and teaches his younger kids how to swim!
Overall, this family is very successful and very happy, for eternity.
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Black Family: You were probably in an exchanged marriage with Regulus ngl, but in a good way, your family was rich and successful so why wouldn't they wanna get you both married! little did they know you guys were already dating, which shocked them but surprising it didn't make them mad, when they found out you guys were having kids they were so overjoyed, Sirius always comes to the house to spoil your children (only when his parents aren't there)
Family Dinner and Date Nights
Family dinners can be a bit chaotic since everyone is gonna talk over one another about their days, or just random stuff, sometimes even food fights happen with the younger ones! but they are stopped right away.
Usually its very nice when having dinners though, its always good to hear the kids talking and just having a good time
Date Nights happen very rarely since you both can be busy sometimes but you'll always try to find a way to get out of the house, and you'll get Uncle Sirius and Jaxrel to babysit the kids LMAO
Your dates with him are with you going to your favorite places, or staying in a cafe while its raining and hands are intertwined together, your love with Regulus is very peaceful and heartwarming.
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gentil-minou · 2 years ago
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Hi, I'm sending an ask here since i wanna stay anonymous and safe. I saw you being harassed on Twitter today, and that makes me feel very sad. I've always appreciated your analysis posts for Adrien and Marinette and know you wouldn't support depicting them as sexualized minors (which is different from aged up), you love them so much like I do, but some just take it too far to protect their so-called "justice". I hope you take a break when needed and truly wish this wouldn't affect you too much.
With love, from a fan.
I appreciate it, really. And don't worry, I am fine! It's been a few days of just rampant harassment and accusing people of doing things they never did, but in general it's just been ridiculous out there and a reminder why I stay away from mlbtwt.
The fact is that all of the accounts they dragged that I've seen so far have 1. Stated they explicitly draw aged up characters and/or 2. have done it on special nsfw accounts that are meant to be kept away from minors and 3. The people doing the dragging and bringing all this attention are 18+. This tells me that the minors themselves are being smart here and not looking at things they want to stay away from, that is until these people started showing attention to it and turning what might have been a safe space into a hellscape.
The fact is that child pornography is a VERY VERY VERY SERIOUS THING but it is not the same as people drawing/writing fictional characters. Especially when tv shows are becoming more and more explicit about this kind of thing themselves. They've taken what is actually a major concern and essentially created smoke where there was no fire, drawing attention away from a deadly blaze in the distance.
Not to mention, they are accusing real people of something so vile and heinous with complete disregard to what those people may or may have not experienced in their own lives.
I'm a huuuge advocate for using fanfiction/fanart to express yourself and more importantly to explore something in a safe way without causing danger to yourself or others. I'm not afraid to admit that I read and looked at smutty fic and fanart when I was a kid, and that it genuinely helped me learn about myself and my sexuality when I grew up in a setting that made me feel bad about it. And yes, some of what I looked at then was of minors. It is not the same thing as looking at actual child porn and I just don't even know how to explain it anymore. It's like how watching freaking true crime or video games where you shoot someone isn't going to make you do that sort of thing, and I cannot believe we have to argue this ahhh.
What makes me the most angry here is that this is actually doing the worst for teens and minors learning about and exploring their sexuality. It's already really hard to find safe ways to learn (look at how popular euphoria or sex education is with teens) or discover something about themselves. By actively making this bs argument that all nsfw art is bad they're making those teens feel actively worse!
And I work with teens like this!!!! Teens who feel shamed for their body's reaction and what is typical curiousity!!!!! Teens who without a safe a way to learn about themselves will often find themselves in the darker places where they are actually in danger and I just I cannot emphasize how much damage these twitter people are doing to the very real people they are claiming to want to protect.
I'll be explicit here and say I'm not saying minors should look at nsfw things! I'm saying that we shouldn't shame people who do, especially when they accuse people of something they aren't even doing!!!!!!!! No one is drawing child porn like ahhhh!!!!!!!!! Like I cannot even begin to explain how awful that is, to be accused of something you arent even doing just ahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
Anyways I appreciate your kind words and I am taking care of myself don't worry I've been distancing myself from this fandom for a reason and it's been going well.
I just wish these folks would remember that the lives of real people are worth more than any fictional character. Too many people forget that in this fandom.
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castlebyersafterdark · 2 months ago
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https://www.tumblr.com/will80sbyers/761602875308834816/link-for-whos-interested?source=share
i really want to know what you think of this. i still don't think i have a preference either way, because i want to wait to see what the show says. i think it's great that this user (and you!) arent defensive about whats correct but still have a strong opinion.
i noticed in this slideshow that whats possible for bi people (attraction to the same sex etc) could also be viewed for gay people similarly. for example, it's possible for homosexual people to have opposite sex attractions and relationships. so saying mike has had these does not show that he either is or isn't gay or bi... does it?
i think things must be inferred through how emotion is played in the show, subjective feeling (as so much emotion of all kinds is). this isnt really quantifiable so i always lean towards it not mattering what sexuality mike is until the writers decide it matters - i.e. reveal it in s5, either subtextually or explicitly. if they dont reveal it, it never mattered to the story or character to be specified.
i also think it's interesting that this user thinks its love, not sexual attraction, that is the differentiator between what makes someone heterosexual or queer. would you agree?
I have to be honest and when I saw 300+ slides in that presentation - not reading all that for an interpretation I don't and won't subscribe to hahahaha. Kinda very briefly skimmed it. It's fine. It's a huge fandom with very diverse mindsets. I love a lot of theories and analysis and I dislike a lot of them and others it's just... meh. I feel nothing. I appreciate the dedication and passion over that presentation, but I feel nothing 😌
I really do say, to each their own and we can interpret characters however we want and if Mike is bi at the end of the show, so be it. I'll be disappointed over my read and interpretation being incorrect. It's not a dislike or disappointment over bisexuality itself, it's just that acknowledgement of having been wrong and having your analysis cracked open. I can admit that. This is how I view this character. It's not being defensive, per se - just that why can't we just enjoy our interpretations and let it be? I don't really want to argue and outline my reasons like that slideshow hahaha because it just... it's what I think and want to think! One person's thought does not negate another's thought. Neither party here is writing the show. We have no influence! Nothing we can do in our heads or on our blogs will change the show so I never see why people fight too much - we don't need to convince people about the opposing read of a character. I don't care that there are militant Mlvns still insistent out there. What do I care if people still ship it and will still ship it regardless of the outcome of the show? The show is the show. Our blogs and brains are independent of that. We can do/think what we want. No influence, no control.
Unrelated, but it's like people getting upset over the existence of spicy/explicit content. No amount of getting mad and vocal about your dislike of it is going to stop others from thinking about it and liking the content. They nuke tumblr and twitter and ao3 and there's no outlet to talk and share our smutty works? You the repressed fandom cop is happy there's no longer smut of your favorite show online? Hate to break it to you, but they're still fucking nasty in my head. A lot. You can't take away an idea. I'm really rambling hahaha.
If Mike is not gay at the end of the show - I'm still labeling him that way in my Byler works. Because what does it matter then as you say? Transformative exploration of fanfiction. Invested too much mental capacity to the idea. So, it's important to know what you're getting on my blog.
for example, it's possible for homosexual people to have opposite sex attractions and relationships. so saying mike has had these does not show that he either is or isn't gay or bi… does it?
Totally!! To a point. Plays into how you interpret the show. I think a point was made "Mike doesn't have internalized homophobia" but, well we don't know that yet? He probably does. We're interpreting that and will see in the show. But there's nothing to say he doesn't? I mean, he's young, he's a teenager, if he's gay and exclusively wanting to be with guys deep down - well, that part of him might be something he doesn't want to acknowledge even if he really cares for a girl. Confusion on platonic vs romantic is a big element. He thinks he should be with a girl. Society. Other influences. That's part of the point, arguments for both sexualities. This is personal and I won't get into toooo many details, but before I met him, my man was with a woman for many years before he eventually came out as gay. That's reality for a lot of people. Sexuality is COMPLICATED!!!!!
I've talked about it before, but I knew I was gay and yet, I dated girls in high school. To shield, to have somebody. The youthful difficulty of navigating friendship/romance. Me dating a girl in HS: "Sure! This benefits me for multiple reasons." Was it a great mindset and behavior? No, but give grace to teenagers who are confused and scared. That can also be Mike. His situation is just very, very dramatic with outside forces beyond the norm. His situation has at times been life or death.
Fiction is a great way to explore things!!
i also think it's interesting that this user thinks its love, not sexual attraction, that is the differentiator between what makes someone heterosexual or queer. would you agree?
Hmmmmm - no?? Maybe I'm confused. Why would that be a differentiator? Because every sexuality can feel love and/or sexual attraction to their preferred type of person. And then can feel love for anyone regardless of orientation. Love =/= sex. But attraction and desire makes up sexual orientation. I'm not gay only because I love men - I'm gay because I want to have sex with men. There are women and men I love and I don't feel attraction to them. There are men I'm attracted to and don't love. Love =/= falling in love or being in love and that's the difference that gets jumbled and/or need to be worked out sometimes. And falling in love/being in love isn't completely to do with sex - but that's the catch, right? That's what lies on the human to figure out themselves. Not easy to sit here and define it with rigid peramiters and labels.
Otherwise, maybe I'm missing something from that statement...
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imalsorettish · 3 months ago
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Theres a lot to unpack there and im interested in what everyone has to say abt it cuz i wanna EXPAND. But, heres my piece.
I think to understand this it might help me to look at it thru a hypothetical. So, for a moment humour me, im not saying i agree with this im just trying to wrap my head around it. It doesnt seem that uncommon to me that partners might roleplay characters or actors cuz they know their partner is into it. Usually, this is reserved just for fictional characters like, i dont know, thor, or something. That is fine. Characters arent people, but the line gets thin. We know a persona that actors give us. Some are more true to who they are off camera than others are, but theres an amount of distance that needs to be had in a parasocial relationship. Being into that sort of actor alter ego we see isnt the same as being into that person. Just the appearance and the idea of them, not so much the real life, undignified stuff youd get with anyone who isnt famous.
But still, blatantly roleplaying as actual people is more out there imo because if that person could know what was happening they could (very understandably) feel reaaaaaaaaaally uncomfortable with that. just pushing away how gross this could be for them for the sake of the analysis here, what are the differences between this and doing this sort of roleplay with AI?
A few obvious answers:
- Not with real people.
- Ai is very easy to manipulate to whatever u want (granted youre using the appropriate service for roleplay, and not like, cleverbot.)
Doing this with another person would have some exchange of whats going to happen and a need for compromise and boundaries at some point. Ai has some hard lines but its not like it is with a real person since the ai thingy doesnt have feelings to hurt. Add in some magical thinking that whoever the Ai is roleplaying as can somehow see whats going on and knows all the activities and control happening, this creates a massive power struggle and violation from a lack of consent. The person being roleplayed would be basically powerless to stop it, and wouldnt have control over whats going on. in fantasy this wouldnt happen.
So how would a celebrity/whoever know about this? They could probably assume the activities going on, but its still not necessarily accurate to reality. Some fanbases are uhhh. more fucked up than others. Some, less. I feel uncomfortable considering how unknown the scope of it would be for that person. Like whats the extent? Idk. Someone would have to openly show the internet whats going on in their ai roleplay. Which i think is a certainty, frankly. Someones doin that right now. If you knew someone you didnt want to fantasize about you was, youd be pretty uncomfortable with that. its better to just not even know its happening sometimes. And on the side of the person fantasizing, is it wrong to fantasize about someone? I think some people would counter that with smth like "Is it wrong to think?" We cant help who were attracted to. the idea is to be as respectful and aware of consent as we can to avoid situations like this.
I think that side of the issue requires a lot of things to be assumed about everyone involved in the hypothetical to really make heads or tails on whether this is wrong every time or not. If an actor came out and said "Use me in your AI roleplays and feel free to get sexual. I dont really care/I want you to." that would really change the nature of this. Problem is consent. Consent consent consent. And after that, its whether or not they know what youre doing or if youre showing it to them/everyone else.
The most damning thing to me is just the unethical nature of AI, which has been talked to death at this point so i wont include it here.
Who does it profit to open up these options for people who want to do this? What sort of exploitation are they putting actors thru? How far are they willing to take that?
That is arguably much more fucked up than one person quietly sexting a computer pretending to be Robert Pattenson.
Someone anon knows does this. Anon thinks it's a bit creepy but recognizes that it brings this person a great deal of comfort/joy.
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sparring-spirals · 2 years ago
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imogen being drained by her rudimentary hold on her psychic abilites vs resorting to mind reading bc she just has to get answers to any question that pops in her head and she has a hard time w frustration vs relying on what causes her immense pain as her only way to trust that they're being honest even if it means risking learning something she really didn't want to vs being repeatedly told to announce herself by ppl who unknowingly don't announce themselves on the regular vs so much more
and to add onto my messy "imogen vs" ask idk if it's the right wording and this is pure projection but: the way her relationship to her powers is transpiring kinda makes me feel the same way my ocd makes me feel like idk it's very very interesting and fascinating to me. i'm not sure exactly how to put it and which exemples to give (the character limit doesn't help my rambly nature) so this is a bit of an empty ask but yeah.... anyways keep sharing your thoughts it's always interesting! take care
First of all: thank you! You take care of yourself too. :D
Secondly: Hmmmmm. Okay. Gonna be straightforward here, I'm not sure my askbox/this space is the best option/conduit for this particular ask/line of thought, if only because. I think there is something specific in this you are resonating with/prodding at that draws from you personally, that you're trying to puzzle out.
Which! Is generally a valid and fine way to engage with media and is how some excellent metas are written. I think a lot of Imogen's struggles and characterizations resonate with a variety of mental/physical struggles, and there are so many goddamn layers to read it with. (This excellent post by @mysticalspiders comes to mind).
But also, I am not you, and so I don't feel particularly confident in interpreting something that is serving as a catalyst for your thoughts, in part because I'm absolutely going to interpret it differently, which can land differently if you're drawing from a very personal place when interpreting it.
(You don't have to feel bad about it, or anything, this is also a more general PSA so folks are aware before sending in headcanons/more indulgent projections/extensive theories- not because I dislike them necessarily, but because. I take asks for me to provide Opinions Or Analysis on things.
I definitely interpret things My Way, which can be different than intended, or even a more general "I have no thoughts about this, actually", which can land unpleasantly when people are invested or personally invested in their line of thought.
So, largely to play it safe, I'm going to say here, and also more generally, that I might not engage as much with what I understand as largely indulgent/personal hcs/metas that come through my askbox).
That aside, to the first part alone, I will say that: Yeah Imogen's brain is almost certainly going through a number of tug-of-wars and damage control at all times, and it makes her a very, very fascinating character to pull apart and poke. Definitely feel you on that. 👌
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lesbiten · 3 years ago
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anyways so ivebeen reading old geIphie fics that i used to like and looking back i am realizing like. how many people get the dynamic SO wrong
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oodlenoodleroodle · 6 months ago
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I had a conversation about the painting with a friend, and I wasnt going to say anything on here, because tumblr is so frustrating about it, but I will say this:
- if it was a picture of Freddie Mercury wearing a red shirt and blending into the background like that, you would not be saying "it looks like blood." We see blood because we are antimonarchists and the first thing we think of when we see a British royal is the decades and centuries of death they have sown all over the world. People who like the royals don't think of that, so they don't see the red as blood and gore, they see it as a contemporary art aesthetic painting where the red is incidental and would be blue if his uniform were blue. We see what we bring into it, because thats how good at works and the artist who made this is a fucking professional at the top of his career. It is not an unequivocal "fuck you" just because you interpret it that way.
- In the year of our common era 2024, it is a pretty normal contemporary art portrait of a head of state, because the field has like, this thing going on at the moment. See Obama portrait, see Sauli Niinistö portrait. If you want to make yourself look like a cool head of state in the so-called free world, you need to have an official portrait that is with the times. Having a flattering, realistic portrait that looks like its from the 1800s makes you look like North Korea or something. This is a trend in the world of head of state portraiture right now. It is not shocking.
- Buckingham palace knows that if they say they hate the portrait, they will look like boors who don't understand contemporary art. So either they really see it as fine (see first point) or they think its bad but are doing an emperor's new clothes about it because they dont want to cause a "scandal" or have people say they are out of touch and dont understand art. Like, these are people who have been taught to be under scrutiny. Charles isnt the best at it, but he has seen the painting before it was finished, he was prepared so that he wouldnt say or do anything stupid at the unveiling. Any other reaction than "oh isn't it wonderful, good job Mr Yeo" makes them look bad, and their entire job in the whole world is to not look bad.
- And that big analysis post going around? Claims Camilla is his ex-wife and hates him, which is probably getting Diana and Camilla confused (protip: Diana is the one thats been dead for decades now, Camilla is literally the queen of the country), and is also doing some really weird straight-up conspiracy-theory level stretching about Charles's capacities etc. Like. They are all upper class motherfuckers. They arent secretly covering up some sort of... I don't even fucking know x_X Just stop reblogging that post, look in the notes for the addition, just- ugh x_X
look a lot of the commentary on Jonathan Yeo's portrait of Charles II feels off but one thing that really makes my skin crawl is people pointing to Yeo's portrait of Geoffrey Pattinson as proof of Yeo 'painting portraits of very bad people' or 'blood-soaked imperialists'
and look
there's no gentle way to say this
if your reaction to a picture of a man who has only been identified to you as a "D-Day veteran" and is clearly wearing an Allied uniform is that this must be an evil man then you come across as a fucking Nazi.
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yellowbluemoonshine · 3 years ago
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Machi/yuki or manabe/yuki analysis
Yuki's Relationship with Machi and Kakeru;
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Yuki & Machi;
Both Yuki and Machi are sensitive characters who experienced similar kind of trauma. Yuki is more honest, passive one while Machi is more tsundere, serious one. They both expected to be perfect, flawless by people around them.
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(Even those two parallels picture, you can see how similar their mindset it, they look fine from outside but chaotic from inside.)
Yuki wasnt really outcast but just because he is rat, 'special zodiac who is closest to the god the most', people lash his problems on him and they assume that he is the luckiest. Kyo blamed him, Akito lash out to him, Haru blamed him (at first), Rin called him as 'Akito's favorite toy', his parents used him for their gains, his big brother, other zodiac members and servants ignored him. Even in school, people sees him as prince, perfect guy. People already decide who Yuki is, before him. Even Yuki's emotional support Tohru sees him as amazing because she tends to ignore people's flaws.
With Machi, she was forced to perfect, no matter how much she tries, she was still treated as failure. And the case with her brother, even though she didnt do anything, they decided that thats the case, she tried to kill her brother. Even in school, thats how people believed.
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Machi noticed the person who is seen as perfect, she saw him with his flaws, thats how she fell in love with him. She is the first person who saw him with his flaws and accepted him that way. Same for Yuki too. They can understand each others at personal level, they can see each others.
Because of those traumas, Yuki shut himself down, Machi tends to destroy the things reminds her of perfection. They are both distanced and closed characters. Yuki who was seen as perfect (but he is actually not) and Machi who was forced to be perfect and seen as failure cause noone can be perfect, people have flaws. The interesting part about this that because they have flaws, thats exactly why Machi and Yuki find each others.
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Even there is a line that Yuki says his sensitive side is his weakness and Machi says because of this flaw, Yuki noticed Machi. Thats when Yuki understood that he find the one he is looking for. Their flaws bring them together. Yuki and Machi were looking theirselves, then they find it in each others.
Yuki & Kakeru;
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Besides Tohru, Manabe is the first friend Yuki has. Its important for him cause Yuki needs connections outside of clan, zodiac. The reason this relationship works well is because they have opposite. Yuki is too sensitive that sometimes he cant take action. Manabe is too impulsive that he acts without thinking of how other will affected by it. They both have opposite flaws, this is why they balance really well because together, they can learn from each others. Their relationship was strong enough that Yuki opened his feelings to Manabe.
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I think its safe to say that author bring Machi, Manabe, school presidency to story for Yuki cause those two characters arent really related to theme of story but its very nice to see Yuki's healing, moving on, he can be himself with them. Though i wish same things happenned to other characters too.
(I know, anon, you asked one of them but i said ‘why not both’ lol.)
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Hi love
I think you misinterpreted the mlmxreader post as an attack on people that write Corirose
I’m the anon that said that and while I don’t understand the appeal of it, I’d never want to keep people from writing what they want. You’re allowed to ship the Corinthian with whoever you want, obviously. I’m just mad that mlm and nblm finally got a a cool and interesting character and people immediately jumped to only shipping him with fem characters/ocs or only writing f!reader because he’s suddenly pansexual. I’m literally pansexual myself but I’m fucking frustrated that everything is catered to f!readers or cishet women in general. We have this character that’s openly interested in men and they just erase that part of him? As long as you recognize all aspects of his sexuality I’m fine with any ship, but don’t erase the parts that don’t include women.
You keep doing what you want to do!!
so glad to have your permission /s
anyways if you'd actually read any of the fic i wrote, you'd know that i do acknowledge his sexuality... & i write rose as being bi herself.
as for fandom being catered to women,,, i would hope the spaces they built would do that. even if frustrating to trans & queer ppl like us. like tumblr & ao3 fandom spaces were built by them & you dont think theyre gonna go buckwild? weird.
also of all the things ive posted on tumblr tagged "the corinthian" that have to do w corirose as ship are... *checks blog* brief analysis of a scene they share in the show, pages from the original comic that imply they have a red riding hood/the wolf coding, pages from the original comics that parallel one another (it's the alley fight scene if you're curious, which you arent bc if you were you'd have seen that the dirty cishet writing the ship you dont like is indeed a queer like you)
additionally there aren't really people that ship corirose. there's a person. me. im literally the only one writing for them or posting about their entwined arcs in the show. which is why i took offense. im literally the only one here. ive looked on ao3. there are 7 fics tagged as corirose. 2 are the corinthian/dream/rose, 1 is a one off that's like 1k words long, & the other 4 fully written fics are me. you were talking about me, which is fine. but next time dont be a little bitch & just tag me. maybe come off anon. or, if you're conflict averse, just fucking dm me if my work bothers you.
you asked why i didnt ship the corinthian w carl, the roommate, instead of rose. i ask why you think that would be interesting. feel free to answer that on anon or private dms if you'd like. i dont post screenshots. bc i dont ship rose & the corinthian bc she's a woman. i ship them bc he's a nightmare & she's the fucking VORTEX. bc he spends half of season 1 looking for her & being nice to her brother & trying to get her to kill dream which i wish she had bc it is utter BULLSHIT that both dream himself & the narrative insist that her death be a nobel sacrifice for the fate of the universe. that dream doesn't even really seem to fight for her. doesnt ask his siblings or parents for help so he doesnt have to kill her. just accepts the utter cosmic injustice that is murdering rose walker for no crime other than being born the vortex. the corinthian may have wanted her to live so he could be free of dream, but he wanted her to live. & rose as the vortex def has the power to destroy him, but probably never would bc she is an infinitely better person than dream. that is just so,,, COOL to me.
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uselessheretic · 3 years ago
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this is a post thats just me complaining based on my feelings as a black person on ofmd and the reaction to it. people can do what they want and be critical of whatever. nobody needs to stop complaining abt ofmd. this is just me complaining abt ppl complaining and this is my official disclaimer of please dont be obnoxious to me
tumblr keeps making me insane bc i keep getting mad at purposefully bad faith and ill meaning "critiques" of ofmd that arent actually trying to open a dialogue or anything, but are just. unpleasant. which its ok to be critical of things including the show i just think a lot of people are fucking idiots unwilling to examine media in an actual critical fashion and instead are just 1. negative for the sake of being negative and 2. shuts down any further conversation on the topics to the point of removing agency from other poc in fandom and the poc (and black ppl specifically) making and acting within the show. like its not possible that other people might just have different opinions on how to portray history, no ofc not, we have to be patronizing and assume that the black writers just dont know any better and are too ignorant of their own history to understand their own subjugation.
its just annoying and unproductive in a way that goes beyond discussing analysis of the show and its relationship to race, and instead gets stuck on this black and white viewpoint that doesnt just express "i dont care for this show" which is fine, but makes sweeping generalizations that ppl consuming the media or participating in fandom are all co-conspirators to bigotry and GOD its so stupid bc its a standard that is flat out not applied to other media. like i dont understand how people can say that black sails is flawed but ultimately good, a show that portrays both fictional and irl slaveowners with white characters who participate in the slave trade and assist in the sexual abuse of a black woman, and in the same breath discredit ofmd as a whole.
like! it doesnt matter that much but it is disheartening bc there flat out isnt that much media with this type of representation both in the show and in the writers room. i feel like people are so used to taika being in big marvel things that they forget that its not common for an indigenous man to be able to act/create things. and nobody needs to watch the show or be kind to it, but it does feel kinda fucked up that theres this encouragement for others to also not watch it or that ppl engaging in fandom are doing harm when theres just not much media with a gay indigenous love interest. theres not much media with latinx nonbinary people and esp not any of them dating a black man.
theres not much media with a writers room as diverse as theirs, where theres several black women/nonbinary black ppl in the writers room alongside other poc (THREE nonbinary writers of color!!!) same with having directors of color, makeup artists, and other crew members who are left off of set and have a hard time finding work in an industry that is not kind to them.
and idk! i think its kinda fucked up that this is not a big show, and that hbomax gave it very limited promotion and the vast majority of its promotion has been from the cast openly pleading for a second season, and word of mouth, but that criticism of it goes beyond personal distaste or open conversation, and instead is this stupid ass thing of promoting this stupid ass idea that a fandom existing is proof that theyre bigoted and that the show never shouldve existed in the first place.
it just sucks i guess! as a black person who genuinely likes the black representation in the show, and feels comforted seeing that the black cast are all openly joyful about the show and have talked abt being able to incorporate their culture within it, and the relief of having a writers room full of poc dedicated to not doing harm. like i was trying to find the article where leslie jones talks abt being excited about having her pirate boots and 20 husbands and how fun the character was to play, and the first thing that popped up on google was a handful of articles about the harassment she received for ghostbusters and the lack of support from her cast members. and it makes me sad that there arent many roles for black people in general, but that the black cast has been so positive about this story and have felt so connected to their characters.
and i just dont see the point in trying to take that away i guess? where you can just not watch the show, and you can be openly critical of it too, but it feels like an over expansion of that criticism to the point of discrediting the writers and actors as unknowing victims, actively and explicitly discouraging a fandom to emerge (the only thing sustaining a show that has not received support bc idk how to break it to ppl but networks arent kind to gay shows with casts of color,) and then purposefully shutting down any conversation on the topic including people bringing further context into the convo. (like that the actor loves the name roach, or that there are prominent black writers on the show, or that a lot of criticism has been specifically addressed before the show started and you dont have to agree with their approach, but its weird to erase the fact that thought went into this via a diverse room)
and its just fuuucking insane specifically because its criticism that is not leveraged at other shows!!!! at the very least, people cant sit here and explain how black sails is more woke than ofmd, a show with very few prominent poc where the main ones are a black woman raped on screen and a slave! with characters ALSO based off of real historical figures (the guthrie clan was a real clan!!!!!!) and white main characters who participate in the slave trade. and im p sure doesnt even have a single poc in the writers room? at the very least i desperately need people to be consistent.
be critical all you want, but it fucking suuuucks that its a hypercriticism being leverage against a show that doesnt have network support and only is able to get attention because of fans/word of mouth. and its fucking annoying how 1. its not even taikas show like he produced four episodes of it so idk why critique is mostly directed at only him but okay and 2. this weird thing where it feels like people deracialize him where i know he makes it look easy bc of how massively talented he is as a creator, but its not easy to get representation for māori or indigenous people and it SUCKS that it feels like people are discrediting and ignoring the fact that there isnt really any gay representation for indigenous ppl :(
anyways this was my long winded way of saying im going to try and be off tumblr for a bit bc this site irritates me and i need to stop being annoyed at tv things bc ppl can do and consume what they want just jfc it annoys me
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yeolmae-s · 3 years ago
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Hello! I hope you're fine! I was wondering if you'll ever post the next part of your chanbaek analysis? I was so hooked!
hi! i'm so happy you enjoyed reading my mess of an analysis but i think its time i be truthful about it, since i have a lot of similar questions sitting on my askbox.
basically i do not think chanbaek was real as in real and together as a couple. this doesn't erase the fact that i find their relationship extremely complex and i too have my doubts whether or not something concrete happened between them. but that's all it is: doubts. i don't plan on concluding this analysis by "confirming" that they were indeed real, my point this whole time has been that their relationship is COMPLEX and that it raises a lot of questions we don't have the answers to.
i'm saying this because i received a few asks specifying moments between them that are almost meaningless to me. the only stuff i include in my analysis are things i personally find meaning in, things that i see as irrefutable and unexplained behavior between people that are supposedly friends.
some of the moments people asked me to analyze were things like traveling together somewhere, and i couldn't help but be like okay, so what? they've done the same thing with other members and even close friends. i can't possibly analyze something like that because it implies a biased pov, shipping lenses and all that, and i've said it before that i want to be as neutral as possible, even if i am a chanbaek shipper myself.
if we want to analyze their relationship we must destroy our shipping lenses and sometimes get hurt because things aren't how we want them to be. thats okay. that doesnt erase everything else. thats why i waited until i wasnt so much into them anymore, to write an analysis with a clear, impartial point of view.
but after posting it i think people misunderstood my point completely, i dont know if anyone even got it right. they've come at me with "this proves they're real!" moments, stuff i cant even bother to post and analyze because ill just end up being seem like a pessimistic hater when all i want is to neutrally and impartially analyze their relationship, and it seems that people arent ready to face something like this. im not putting myself above anyone, im just skeptical about most things and i value proof and well made analysis more than anything.
so yeah point is idk if im gonna continue it. im basically afraid of dissappointing people who misunderstood my point completely, afraid of having to deal with even more "AND WHAT ABOUT THIS MOMENT?? HUH???" comments (bc if its not in my analysis then i dont consider it that relevant my dude. if i do it'll show up on later parts but if i dont, thats my opinion).
i might say fuck it and continue it someday for my own sake, since i still desire seeing an impartial take on their relationship. but for now i really dont know.
sorry if this is long.
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