#it's actually a very sad feeling
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I haven't drawn anything in days even for practice or warm-up, so here's the dump of old wips I doubt we'll ever see finished oTL
headcanon mk1 Kung Jin design sketch for the comic

the next two are inspired by my fav railao fic: the suns shadow (shines so brightly) by Lunar_Starline 💗

bonus sketches of Kung Lao with different hairstyles for my last art before I changed the hat (special thanks to @nicetoart for listening me yapping about this piece 🌹)



#it's actually a very sad feeling#to look through all your wips and realize that you lost interest in some of them#also I'm STILL stuck with my current wips#so the situation is... not great#helsensm art#kung lao#johnny cage#takahashi kenshi#kenshi takahashi#raiden#mk raiden#kung jin#railao#mortal kombat#mortal kombat 1#mk1#earthrealm defenders
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FNAF Into the pit? More like into the daddy issues
#myart#chloesimagination#comic#fnaf#five nights at freddy's#fnaf fanart#michael afton#pit bonnie#fnaf oswald#into the pit#fnaf sister location#william afton#SO THERES this concept I saw (and I also thought of) going around#and that’s the idea how pit Bonnie treats Oswald is similar to how William treated Michael#obviously not all the chasing and more spooky monster parts#but specifically a lot of the at home scenes#where pit Bonnie acts normalism almost like a stern father#I like this idea a lot it’s very interesting to think about#I can imagine Michael actually meeting the pit and being like yeah that’s like my dad#like that’s how he mostly remembers him too#it’s kinda funny and kinda sad#Oswald definitely just feel so lucky to have his dad#Oswald fr got the better end of the ‘fnaf parents’ stick 💀#love you Michael deserve so much more than you got 💜
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this bothers me a lot as someone with a low empathy score:
no, you cannot learn empathy. empathy is when you feel and share the emotions of the other person. your friend is sad? you feel sad.
you can learn to be understanding, and compassionate, and how to react when you don't feel those things, but you cannot learn to experience a sensation that you do not.
#actually autistic#low empathy#i have worked VERY hard on my compassion dammit#and being told it's not good enough constantly because i dont physically feel your sadness?#right im the monster
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(small child starting to meltdown) “Hey, hey. *snapping* We’ll play later, okay?”
#idk why but this is making me emotional#something about how jack is surrounded by all this chaos and all these people#but he recognizes the rising wobbling voice and the getting-overwhelmed body language#how many almost-meltdowns do we think jack had to snap little lukey out of?#lukey always so intense and feeling things so hard#and jack always so perceptive and calming him right back down#also something very sad about jack on his draft day promising his little cousin that “we’ll play later”#because after this day jack’s life changes forever#he goes from high schooler to full-time professional hockey player#a brutal rookie year. a life lived on the road. injuries.#did he ever actually get to play one last game with his little cousin?#did jack know it would be an empty promise?#jack hughes#post#jhughes & kids tag
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you ever just have a lot, a LOT of feelings all at once about a character and not even remotely enough words or brainpower to FORM the words to describe everything you're feeling. so it feels like you may explode. yeah
#sorry i got really into my feelings about mark hoffman again#the very specific version of him in my brain that i really really wish i had the time and energy to properly share with you guys#saw#well until i muster the energy to explode all of my feelings out into a fic. if you want to TRY and understand#know that my three biggest hoffman fic insps right now are as follows#your best kept secret hoffman. a series of mistakes hoffman. and rushed like a dreadful wind hoffman.#there is a very clear throughline just know i am extremely emotionally compromised rn#thinking about theee fics vs the canon path hoffman spirals down#something something the absolute tragedy of watching a man's descent into madness#the transformation of a man into a monster#and what could have saved him from himself and kramer's corruption#sorry i'm rambling so much oh my god i was just having such a crying fit out of nowhere about this#do you think he could feel it happening. do you think he was aware he was losing his mind.#the script version of him fucks with me so bad. the crazed rankings and the longer hair and him not being well kept anymore#it's impossible to think he didn't know he was deteriorating#fuuuck okay i need to either chill or write a whole longfic rn#i project on that guy so much i truly don't know if i could properly write my vision of him#until i do something more substantial the full extent of my hoffman exists for me and my boyfriend only. they get me like no one else#well ginny and jenna also get me. please read best kept secret and a series of mistakes Oh My God#where am i going with this. i like tag rambling actually this is a nice way to do it without forcing EVERYONE to read my delirium#anyways if you've read all of this i think i love you? feel free to dm me about hoffman and my very specific headcanons and aus#maybe soon i'll try and start writing my fics about this tragic man#i could never say any of this on twitter btw they'd string me up for my opinions on him as a sad wet beast who could have been fixed#if only he hadn't been weaponized first#god i'm too tired to even be as embarrassed about this as i should be. thought i unlearned cringe already#but i've been spending way too much time on twitter and they HAAATE hoffman there#rip. i know it's not that serious but i'm sensitive rn and hate feeling lonely in my thoughts#ok bye for real otherwise i'll never shut up. i might tag ramble more often bc this was therapeutic in a way i needed badly#cat chat
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I saw Miku at the village festival the other week trust me
#i drew Miku in an arbereshe traditional outfit for a trend on Twitter but lemme tell you something fun about the arbereshe culture#since the arbereshe are the descendants of Albanian people who fled their country as it was getting conquered by the Ottoman empire#over the course of CENTURIES#there are different arbereshe traditions#however they all (songs poems etc) revolve around the theme of “loss of the homeland”#but since centuries have passed nowadays nobody really feels a sense of sadness and longing for Albania#which means that at festivals ppl laugh and dance and sing songs that... have very sad lyrics lol#stuff like this SHOULD be in some fantasy setting it's A++ worldbuilding material#(now the actual tags)#hatsune miku#vocaloid#miku fanart#mikuhatsune#colorful#dramisdrawn#arbereshe
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Guys do you think when Sprout first turned twisted he had trouble standing up due to getting so much taller and the weight of his ichor'd arm throwing off his balance.
So he'd just spend his first days in the corner curled up and sobbing cause his whole body ached and he couldn't even stand.
#ronu's rambles#Twisted Sprout is monstrous but I honestly think he's a little sad and pathetic lmao#Personal headcanons#....yeah#I like to think he was one of the very first to turn#Like the mains were the FIRST to be Twisted but Sprout is the FIRST FIRST#Take out the one who looks after everyone first before getting the rest of em!!#I mean technically I hc Pebble being the first actually and Sprout being second but shh#Anyway I feel like because he's one of the first Twisteds he'd be very confused and terrified and in pain#And he'd be alone too#Super alone#I think you can guess the rest#dandys world#dandy's world#dandys world sprout#twisted sprout
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gl!ranboo doodle sheet bc i am actually going insane
#generation loss#genloss#generation loss fanart#ranboo#ranboo fanart#haha get boxed idiot <- said while actively crying#virgil arts#this was drawn at like. 4-5 am while i watched my bf play a half life mod#dude this series has actually grabbed hold of my brain its so so good#also i was in fact looping puppet boy while drawing this#songs just good also started making me feel very sad about gl!ranboo and i think that was the point lmao
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Memories
Old man Fiddlestan, my beloved-and what's this? It could be semi-canon compliant :O ?!?! Woof- this is one of the saddest things I have ever written. I know some of you gremlins (affectionate) love that sort of thing, but I don't. I like really really don't. This is my comfort ship, so I don't even know where this came from other than trying to figure out how they *could* work in canon. Truthfully though, I prefer my Fiddlestan heavy on the comfort when it comes to the "hurt/comfort" genre. This is my only “angsty” (i.e. no immediate happy ending) Notes-app fics, so don't get used to this level of sad from me lol.
“Stan?” an oddly familiar voice called. Mr. Mystery, Stan Pines, glanced up from the flyers he was organizing and found that Old Man McGucket stood in the doorway of his front door. The last tour of the day had just left, it was dinnertime, and he was exhausted. Stan rolled his eyes as he unfurled his tie, wishing Soos was still there to escort the crazy old man off his property. No matter what he did, the old hillbilly always managed to find his way back to the Shack. “Sweet Moses McSuckit, what are you doing in here? Shoo, scat, or whateva will get rid of ya.” Hearing no movement, he looked at the man again and found he was standing erect. His blue eyes were the clearest he had seen them in no less than a decade.
Wait, what did he call- oh. Oh no.
“Stan…ley? Did I…did I do somethin’ wrong?” the other man asked, his hands twisted in knots in front of him. Memories flashed through Stan’s mind; Ford falling through the portal, Fiddleford finding him passed out in the lab, working together to bring Ford home again…being together. Being happy. They had been happy, if just for a little while, hadn’t they?
Then there was the cult, and his discovery of the damn memory gun that had finally ruined everything they ever built. He took a hesitant step forward, a thousand thoughts roaring in his mind at once. “Fidds? Wha-what do you remember?” A bandaged hand snaked up and rubbed over the faded scar on the side of his head “I…don’t rightly know. Did we…I think we had a fight? I just woke up in the…in the dump. N’ I don’t have any shoes. Do ya know why my arm is in a cast?” Fiddleford looked so lost.
Stan knew in his heart that all of this was fleeting- “clarity” would hit Fiddleford every few years after he had finally wiped his mind of himself. Almost like his brain was trying to jumpstart itself back together. The first time they thought it was a miracle but…it didn’t last. It just started a trend that would follow them both for the next almost thirty years. Fiddleford would seemingly “wake up” and be lucid for a few weeks in the beginning, then eventually only a matter of days. It had been so long since the last time that Stan would wager, they only had maybe a few hours together if he was lucky.
The last time Fiddleford was himself…they had fought. Stanley thought he had figured the only way Fiddleford could stay; he needed to remember. Remember everything he had ever forgotten. At the time, Fiddleford had been unwilling to try. He didn’t think he could handle it; he knew he had forgotten what he had for a reason.
Stanley had gotten as close to begging as he ever had in his life since surviving Tijuanna, and when it had no effect…Stanley had told Fiddleford to leave and never come back. He had left that night, and by the next day he had faded away again. After a while, Stan thought his last words had been the final nail in the coffin that was Fiddleford’s mind. He carried that weight along with every other mistake he had ever made. But here he was. Fiddleford. His Fiddleford.
He took a deep breath before he opened his arms up. “Hey, don’t worry, it doesn’t matter. I’m right here.” Fiddleford rushed through the doorway, melting into Stanley’s open arms. “I went away again, didn’t I?” Stan could feel Fiddleford’s tears soaking into his chest, his own whispering at the edges of his eyes. Yes, and you will leave again. You will leave me and I will be alone all over again, you fucking asshole. “Hey cowboy, didn’t I just say not t’ worry about any a’ that? You���re here now, n' that’s what matters. You’re…you’re home.” A haggard laugh vibrated through the smaller man’s chest into Stanley’s own. “I know I keep tellin’ ya, tellin’ me not t’ worry is like” “…tellin’ a fish t’ stop swimmin’; I know Fidds, I know.” Fuck was really the only conscious thought that went through his head as he held his one-time lover. He couldn’t believe he was doing this, again.
Fiddleford looked up, eyes wide and searching Stan’s face. “How long do ya think we have?” Stan shook his head, unwilling to lie even if it eventually wouldn’t matter because he wouldn’t remember. You’ve always been the only person I couldn’t lie to. “I dunno, it’s been…a while. Probably not very long.” Fiddleford closed his eyes before he said “I need ya t’ know somethin’, Stanley.” Stan started to shake his head. “Fidds, you don’t have t-” The look on the other man’s face shut Stan right up-he had always had that ability. Stan wished he didn’t miss it as much as he did. “I need ya to know that even when I’m not here…I miss you. The part of me that’s somewhere in here-” A weathered hand tapped the side of his head to emphasize his point “ misses you. I’m just so sorry, Stanley. Sorry that I’m a coward. I’m sorry that I’m not strong enough to be here all the time…but I’ll never stop tryin’. I’ll always try n’ come home to ya.”
Stan thought of the thousands of times he had chased Old Man McGucket, the neat little character that Stan had to compartmentalize his Fiddleford into when he wasn’t himself, out of the Shack. How many times he had found him curled up like a cat on the back porch. How every time they “met”, McGucket would say how nice Stan was or how good he felt to be around him “for some reason.” How many odds and ends McGucket would gift Stan from the dump for exhibits at the Mystery Shack with a large smile and nothing substantial behind his eyes.
It would be so much easier if he would stop trying to come back. Maybe the hole in Stan’s heart the size of the sweet, certifiably insane man would scab over. How many times had Stanley mourned him? How many times was he willing to hurt himself? They were now nearing their sixties, how long was he really willing to do this song and dance?
What’s one more time? he softly thought, his hand coming up to tenderly cup the grizzled face of Fiddleford Hadron McGucket. Mad scientist, friend, and unfortunately for them both…the love of his life.
“I miss you too, Fidds.”
#bbuzz28#my writing#fiddlestan#stanley pines#fiddleford hadron mcgucket#if anyone ever wants to expand on this idea please feel free to-bc I think its an interesting concept overall#I simply do not have the heart to write something so very sad LOL#also something I couldn't think of how to do justice was Tate in all of this#because like-Tate knows *something* is between his father and Stan#I had a line that was like 'The wide berth he gave Tate McGucket whenever they were in the same vicinity. The weight of similar eyes#to his father never leaving him whenever they were found to be in the same place always feeling heavy.'#but I couldn't figure out how to make it really fit in a quick lil one shot#and Tate deserves more than that#bc don't forget Tate is *literally* the only thing that holds Fidds mind together at any given time in any just about any timeline :')#but yeah the idea of canon Fiddlestan is actually incredibly sad bc either its this or Fidds wiped Stan's memory of him#which I recognize *is* a trope...but that just makes me so v sad.#I know people explore fiction in ways to help them feel bigger feelings- but I just want them to be happy#maybe that's naive but its my truth#alright-that's enough yapping in the tags#again if anyone wants to expand on this feel free and send me a link :)
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i think the reason why thunderbolts works so well is that the team is like 80% legacy heroes/ knock off avengers but they’re all old enough to remember when princess diana died
#don’t get me wrong I love my kid heroes#Kamala khan and Kate bishop my beloveds#but it’s actually quite fun to have a cast of characters grappling with carrying (or failing to carry) a legacy#but they can also like vote and stuff#rather than greatness being thrust upon them they’ve had to actively choose it#not like a kid ‘answers the call’ but a grown up going ‘god fucking dammit fine’#some in memory of loved ones (yelena/bucky)#others coming to terms with the fact they’ll never be the OG (John walker)#(I’d put red guardian with John too but he’s having too much fun to be burdened by it)#even Bob - he’s literally supposed to be a whole avengers team at once#but he’s also a grown man#a troubled dude in need of a support system but very much an adult#the only exception is ghost#but she’s still a grown woman trying to figure out where she fits but in a ‘30 something still flat sharing’ kind of way#in fact I’d argue the reason why she sticks out a bit in the cast is her character doesn’t quite have the same legacy to live up to#but she still has common ground as a fellow human experimentation/ childhood trauma survivor thing#idk there’s an interesting emotional maturity to the cast even when they’re bickering and quipping and feeling the big sad#tldr I like it when legacy hero’s are less starry eyed/teen angsty and more ‘okay okay I guess I’ll have to do it Jesus Christ’#brb gonna go have some thoughts about where mcu Sam Wilson fits in all this#mcu#thunderbolts#spoilers#actually not sure if Bucky remembers when lady di died technically but you get my point
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hot take: Jason is actually one of the most emotionally intelligent members of the Batfam because, contrary to most of them, he actually expresses his actual emotions. and while those feelings are mostly negative, he still expresses them, which is more than can be say about Bruce (who will bottle it up till it blows up in his face), Damian and Cass (who were trained out of expressing their feelings during childhood by literal assassins), Tim and Dick (who are chronic liars and will bullshit their way through life unless there’s no other way).
#Duke Babs and Steph and everyone else are fortunately unaffected by whatever is going on here#they have either been spared by not being adopted or not having been around long enough to be influenced by the rest of them#Jason also has bad habits im not denying that#but he will also say what he’s feeling and what he wants and what he needs#and since no one else is doing at least that then he gets first place by default#we need to put an end to that Dick Grayson is Emotionally Intelligent propaganda because it’s a lie#he’s the worst of them because he actually gets self destructive about it but won’t say a word#Tim will bring down the world around him before you can get him to try and be healthy about his feelings#and Bruce likes to pretend he doesn’t have feelings#Jason is angry. but anger is a feeling. and it’s one he’s actually feeling. that or sadness. he’s a very sad boy#jason todd#batman#jason todd headcanon#tim drake#batfam headcanons#dick grayson headcanon#dick grayson#bruce wayne headcanon#bruce wayne#tim drake headcanon#batfamily
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Lu Guang is great because he is filled with so so much love and devotion that it’s almost painful and he looks like this about it -> 😐
#and then he does the most insane actions without actually expressing that in words#I really do like that the characters seem to know he cares a lot without him having to be openly affectionate though#tbh it’s nice that they just like him so much and know that he likes them#but cxs may know this but I don’t think he or anyone fully understands the extent#of the insane lengths he will go to. for him specifically#it’s tough to have such a largely inexpressive and introverted character against two very silly extraverted ones who wear their hearts#on their sleeves and have his characterization shine through#but his steadfastness towards them both and supportive gestures really shine through in s1 even and it’s just. idk. nice to see#and then you get fucking sledgehammered by all his feelings in bridon arc. sad wet cat with his claws out#link click#sgdlr#lu guang#Lu Guang you fascinating mystery. I love that the only thing I have ever been able to be certain about with you since s1#is how much you care about cxs#storyrambles
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I actually don't recall Bruce having Jason hallucinations but he has to have had them in some comic somewhere#writers would not let that opportunity pass
so I said that and then just googled "bruce Jason hallucination" and found someone had catalogued every single jason apperance including cameo mentions and hallucinations and I'm so impressed by this I have to tell you all. That's the level of obsessiveness I was on about Steph but across infinitely more comics. I gotta share it out of respect.
so yeah I control f'd hallucination and he has had some ofc, and I remember this comic!!! It was on scans_daily or something. He hallucinated him thanks to the scarecrow's fear gas.
Then proceeded to just beat the shit out of the Joker screaming Jason's name over and over again. I remember we were talking about this one on scans_daily and it was like "well good thing the Joker doesn't care about Batman's secret identity because he'd definitely know it now"
In my famous post about how Bruce should have just bought up all the wild stuff that happened to Jason when he came back, and explain he did attempt to murder the Joker, but Superman got involved etc, he should have bought up this one too, he actually might have beaten him to death if the Joker hadn't managed to escape.
Also the backhand here is cracking me up
Ok but this is actually really depressing (possibly accidental, possibly on purpose) continuity but. I know it because it was in the Mike Barr run with Bruce and Jason and the adorable art I'm extremely fond of:

It remains his greatest fear, even after Jason actually dies. He just has to accept that the fear came true and he can't wake up from it this time. That's actually genuinely really depressing, I was getting all nostalgic about comics and I made myself sad.
#it's VERY late at night and i'm getting nostalgic about comics instead of sleeping so this is probably incoherent#i remember this!!! and my brain went all flashing lights#bruce wayne#jason todd#batman#dc comics#honestly extremely actually sad internal monologue about Jason too#i did not expect the comic to actually make me feel emotional.#i do have such a soft spot for all robins
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Okay. Since we're going over all the takes on Mr. X at this point.. What if his powers really don't have a backside. What if (the state of) his normal life is the backside.
What if his normal life is akin to that of heroes where he has to pretend to be something he's not and follow rules that the people who control his life came up with to further their own goals. What if he can only be free of other people's beliefs and expectations when he's a hero.
What if in reality he truly is like everyone else. The other heroes. The ordinary people. All those who work themselves to the bone, who are tired and overworked and sick of all the exploitation...
What if when he's in the form of the number one hero.. when he becomes the most sought after product on the hero market..
Is when he gains the freedom to truly be himself
#to be hero x#tbhx#hero x#considering one of the first things they revealed to us in the trailers was that he's a white-collar worker...#we definitely need to think about that if we wanna try to predict / guess what he's actually like#this thing feels very lin ling coded but lin ling is tbhx coded (introduction to the main themes of the show)#so I feel like my best prediction rn is that he's actually the other side of the same damn coin#(cue the coin flip clip from the opening *coughs*)#I think from a writing perspective the whole downside thing is based on a characters perception#so if the writers make us think that X is an omnipresent all powerful god#then it just makes sense to reverse it by revealing that the opposite is equally as true#and then he'd have an even stronger incentive to want to break the system cuz both of his lives would've been defined by exploitation#maybe not the bright side of X (at least not after he became No. 1) but I don't think being the best product makes him no longer a product#ACTUALLY#“bright side” was supposed to refer to his hero identity bc of the black & white switch he has going on but#yeah calling his normal self the “dark side of X” would definitely reinforce the idea that it's the not so good parts he hides#and we've not much of normal X yet (other than his sugar stealing. you go boy exploit the company back for sugar. I believe in you) but!#we all know there's darker times coming. right.#I don't think they're gonna reveal his normal life to have a sad backstory or Idk (there's gonna be enough of that elsewhere anyways haha)#but we've definitely only seen the top of the iceberg for now#btw yes I do think capitalism & the CEOs are gonna be the real villains#and X is probably playing their game to win#yes all along you were reading my “X is actually anti-capitalist” propaganda#we're gonna go free heroes (at a cost) :))#ice demon talks#tbhx theories#tbhx analysis
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Happy [depending on your timezone belated-] 2nd birthday CCCC!!
I gotta eep now, but I might add some more thoughts tomorrow ^^
For now, thank you CCCC for being my intro to Chonny Jash, and thank you cj for all the awesome community and inspiration and joy you’ve brought me and so many other people. Your music and characters will always hold a special place in my Heart [haha] <33
#chonny jash#cj mind#cj heart#cj soul#cj whole#cj harmonia#chonny’s charming chaos compendium#cccc#what who me? hide Pink Whole propaganda in my cccc anniversary artwork?? never ……#listened to the album in its entirety in order for the first time while making it and oooohhh the Thoughts about it#it was a great experience I feel bad I didn’t do it sooner lmao#anyways yayayayy !! happy birthday cccc <3333#there’s some fun details I added but I’ll probably just elaborate tmrw :]#appalling mustelid tornado#edit: adding some extra little details/thoughts because I’m rested now yay :D#I was careful to make sure to include 2 qualities from each of hms !#heart: blindfold and wings mind: crown and mechanical hands soul: mask and trident :)))#i guess this could count as a Whole/Harmonia design ??? I would call this Harmonia and Not Whole . very much just HMS combined into#one Being but like . not the thing that sings banana man and haiku and hidden in the sand n stuff yknow?#I originally had the colors more organized like . the hands and crown/head area were blue and the masked half of the face was red n stuff#but it didn’t look as good so it’s all just super liquified and blurred together now lol#Im actually pretty fond of how this turned out ^^#all of hms’s colors are included in the background with Soul being the spotlight Mind being the bottom gradient and Heart being the overall#background color#I would give some fancy symbolic explanation for this but I won’t lie . there isn’t any lol it’s just what I thought would work well :’))#if you can find meaning in it that’s great though !!!#I realized earlier today [day after I posted this] I forgot to add line weight to the trident which makes me kinda sad but WE BALL !!!#I would’ve added more symbolism in the patterns but I was super tired and had a headache when I did them 😭#oh and the trident !! it’s totally split up for epic symbolic reasons about the ending of the violence and the relationship between hms#and not because I fucked up the post real bad and couldn’t make it work properly with the trident intact dw about it trust chat
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puppy fever, might be terminal
#trojs 5 which means we're 1 yr out from my apparent cycle of a dog every 6 years#its not that i dont have enough on my hands and not like i do so much with them i need another one but i#find myself borrowing a spitz to hike with to get the feeling of 3 and with how#troj has turned out it would be... very viable#on one hand she's stupidly well behaved and no effort at all to keep#but also on the other hand shes... stupidly well behaved and not the firecracker i was counting on#(my bad for expecting every sheltie to be a Sparty)#i think she'd actually benefit from having a younger dog around as well#Sparty is doing great but has a very different approach to life and energy conservation now than she did 3-4 years ago#flat out sprints to bite the trojbutt isn't top of her mind 24/7 anymore which is a little sad for troj#troj and melis jive well in that regard but theyre on slightly different planets and while troj has 0 real herding drive she is#VERY sheepdog in her play and social behaviour#ofc the question always becomes 'why do you think you NEED another dog' and i dont. and its not for troj no#but i want one. and i can handle one. and i think another sheltie would be a benefit to our household#ofc: i had planned to have a trojling by now. and if i intend to keep showing it would make sense to get one soonish#that could enter open class just as troj goes to veteran#and ive still sunk enough time (almost 17 years now) into this breed to want to take more involved steps. i still want to breed and show em#eventually#but living situation still needs to change and im honestly. still so disappointed at trojlings falling through im not entirely sure#what the next step should be#a blue or maybe pref tric little bitch from allrounder lines probably. somehow.
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