#it’s just irritating fans always arguing love should be bigger than hate
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cancerian-woman · 8 months ago
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Tyler was at his worst and explaining he couldn’t let Klaus get away with possibly enslaving more werewolves or siring hybrids again and all Caroline had to offer was no support. “Love me more than you hate him” girl that man is in pain??
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youcantfiremebecauseiquit · 3 years ago
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idk if u care but crispin gray recently had an interview about his entire career and it kind of changed my perspective of queenadreena…idk if for better or for worse lol. it was weird to see him so dismissive of a lot of his catalogue w katie except for ‘love your money’ just because that was the only remotely chart successful song. i get you want to be able to sustain yourself but jeez him and katie really had a weird back and forth relationship
Sorry i'm replying late, i've seen the interview pop up on Youtube but honestly i was too invested in university shit recently & generally not in the good mood for that but i'm planning to watch. How did it change your view on Queen Adreena, did he say something mean specifically on QA or Katie? I mean i gotta watch it but honestly? Not surprised in the slightest. A few years ago he was asked to describe fave songs he recorded throughout the years and he listed more of Daisy Chainsaw ones than anything else, with Love Your Money as number 1. The differences in their points of view are real something, Katie Jane absolutely HATED Love Your Money, same as Daisy Chainsaw. Kinda apparent he wanted bigger fame but DC dropped fast and QA failed to live up to their predictions.
i had a time when i liked to dig up old Queen Adreena interviews that are lost in the old internet & generally not available for years (which i planned to post on is-she-suffering but my investment in that site is... varied in its intensity). Also that was back in the days when i wrote Queen Adreena book during manic phase and tried to sell it but lost motivation Well since i don't do anything with that knowledge anyway i'll put what i know here as i love fan discussions
So they sure had/have odd back and forth love-hate relationship & that's the reason why their career went how it went. There's been a huge tension between them at some point. I'm sure you know she had a major mental breakdown (probably schizophrenic episode) after Daisy Chainsaw, or even beginning before her leaving, and then she went into isolation and lived with an old woman in Lake District for awhile. She left Daisy Chainsaw cause Crispin didn't want her to come up with her own songs (all of DC was by Crispin except for Lovely ugly brutal world by KJ).
They almost split up as Queen Adreena after Drink Me. The material for The Butcher and The Butterfly was written at different times, originally it was meant to be called Atom Bomb at Bikini but it was constantly delaying and they eventually recorded everything they've got live. So that's obvious right? But i was surprised to find out they were writing songs separately. Some of them (i forgot which though) were written by Katie Jane and Pete Howard's sons band (they're even credited) + some with Melanie Garside, Richard Adams + some other musician. Katie Jane didn't like it. They intended it to be their last album at the time. She also hated live at ICA show but they released it cause they were broke
But that's a digression. I just wanna say that at this point they were done with each other but kept pushing it. Katie had her own art projects and stuff, Crispin started Dogbones with Nomi and i just remember how vaguely pissed at Katie he waas in the interviews. Like he stressed that Dogbones is his number one priority and if Katie wants to do something with Queenadreena, she must wait til Dogbones have a break first or something, and it sounded oddly bitter.
RaCH and Djinn era are just so weird, they had opportunities but let them go in a way. I don't think many people know but they were huge demand in Japan. They entered album charts and were interviewed by 11 magazines and 6 (!)TV stations there (wtf happened to that material i want to know???). But they only played 5 times or less.
Katie said she considers the band dead but they decided they can try to play for a couple more months. But aside from that she 100% lost the interest in the band around Djinn. There's an interview where she says "the overall image is Crispin but the shape will change again at rehearsals". And you can hear it, it’s more blues rock than anything. IMO it's their worst production wise. Instruments are fine but Katie's voice is so badly produced that sometimes i find some songs fucking irritating, cause they didn’t cut out her breaths and the vocals are TOO LOUD, to the point of distorting. As if she stands too close to the mic. The album is fine but it feels unfinished.
And here we come back to Crispin... here's what he said after the QA split:
Why the Dogbones started? “I needed to work more than the previous band I was in was working, the previous band who shall remain nameless, haha… um… Queenadreena. I wanted to work more than the singer of Queenadreena wanted to work… so that’s why it started. Fine by me… but I really like to be in a band, I’m not a solo project kind of guy. The last album (‘Djin’) did come out in the UK, but it was so low key because Katie kind of disappeared so there was little point in promoting it. Personally it’s my favourite by far so it was a shame but there you go… So here are Dogbones, it’s not been an easy ride but we are trying very hard.
Ok so the bitterness is kinda apparent isn't it. I think there were two reasons why they argued so much, first musical differences. Katie at some point lost interest in loud rock music for some years and went the folk way in Ruby Throat. I have a theory that Taxidermy and Drink Me are more influenced by Katie Jane and Butcher and Djinn are more Crispin. During first albums i think Katie more actively took part in music composition and choosing arrangements. She wrote lyrics, melodies but also composed a lot of songs on some little electronic keyboard thing and 4 track (Heavenly Surrender, Pray for me, My Silent Undoing, all Lalleshwari +more). Plus she wanted more peaceful/dreamy sound on Taxidermy than full on rock, Crispin complained about it in some 00's interview, that he'd like it to be more rock. Then there are 2 versions of Drink Me, the original has rough and alt versions of songs (it was sold by Katie and it's leaked on FB and probably YT). Crispin Gray apparently really hated the final Drink Me. Now next album is The Butcher & The Butterfly and it's more standard blues rock, no more crazy dreamy things of previous albums etc., Djinn is even more blues rock but darker. Djinn was his favourite at some point while KJ hated Butcher, not sure about Djinn. So i think they had different views on where they should go, Katie made her weird simplistic creepy tunes (like Lalleshwari) and folk melodies adding that strange things to noise rock. Crispin probably wanted blues & rock.
Other than that, i’m convinced they are bitter exes, lol. There’s been rumours about them dating during Daisy Chainsaw for years, plus Katie had a history of dating band members. Crispin wrote X-ing off the days about her. I don’t know if they dated again in Queen Adreena. Then there’s this interview, timeline is unclear, either The butcher & the butterfly or later:
„Katie writes all the songs herself and often looks for melodies and structure with the drummer. With Crispin - her husband or ex-husband, which is not entirely clear to me - for almost three years she has no longer been in a room. "Sometimes we send him a letter with a new song and that's all we can do. All we have are our lungs and our musical talent and we have to do with it. It is repugnant difficult life, I know most of the time how I should deal with it." But Queenadreena will still remain even exist? "I think so, we are now pretty busy and I see where the ship aground.”
I always wondered what exactly happened after Djinn, i’ve seen Katie Jane say „i think they gave up on me” while others said she disappeared. Other times CG said there’s no bad blood between them but at the same time there’s been some weird tension.  As of recent i thought they reconnected somehow through the internet and had a good relation but who really knows.s
I get why Crispin gets irritated when people compare everything he does to „stealing from KJ” but honestly, he gave them good reasons, at least in the 90’s. I can believe Starsha Lee singer isn’t copying Katie cause she’s from Brazil or something and she didn’t know Queen Adreena before. But everything else… Crispin’s problem is that he doesn’t know what he wants. He spent 90’s chasing something, tried singing himself, had girl singer replacements and even one KJ copy. Dogbones was ironically his most original non-Katie band, even with all their grunge influences. In a way he wants to be a frontman and at the same time doesn’t. Idk if he’s very controlling, but Daisy Chainsaw shows he valued his songs/lyrics first & in Queen Adreena he had to step back a lot, cause Katie’s condition was she would be in charge of the lyrics. I don’t think he realizes how strongly Daisy Chainsaw issues affected Katie, i mean from her own words you can read that aside from media attention/hate, her being unable to write lyrics had a role in her breakdown. I think she now let go but for years she hated remembering Daisy Chainsaw and she felt kind of worthless cause she was only somebody else’s mouthpiece. I’m not trying to say he’s cruel or anything, but i firmly believe rock lyrics writers should sing their own songs or else there are problems.
They both were writers-composers with different vision and i have impression they struggled a lot while shaping their songs, cause they both stuck to their ideas. Hence 2 versions of Princess Carwash maybe. Katie once said that he „gets terribly upset with her” cause she writes her songs on a simple wind organ and uses a few chord buttons only. Clash of writer ways/personalities/egos and at some point they had to let go.
Maybe he prefers music/bands where he was 100% in control including lyrics (note he wrote/sang some lyrics in Dogbones too). Daisy Chainsaw achieved bigger success US and UK wise as they were offered to play Top of The Pops, and they’re more well liked/remembered by „general alt public”. Queen Adreena however is way more valued as a cult band, with cult following and admiration in UK & France. Most people think Pretty Like Drugs and other QA songs are his best work and he probably finds it irritating cause truth is, he never managed to be more successful than Daisy Chainsaw/Queenadreena. Love Your Money is ironically the least Crispin Gray/DC/QA sounding song in my opinion. I kinda find it irritating that he downplays Queen Adreena cause it was probably his best work in this band but whatever
So yeah sorry for the word spill, that’s what i can think of it right now but as i said, i haven’t watched the interview yet, it’s just this kind of treatment is in a way consistent for him
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warriordreamer95 · 4 years ago
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RWBY Volume 7 Crew Commentary Notes!
All credit goes to Sweetfable over on Reddit! Sweet, if you’re on Tumblr and have already posted this or want to, let me know and I’ll take this down!
Chapter 1
Featuring Kerry Shawcross and  Miles Luna.
Miles says he was hoping people didn’t figure out Atlas was a floating city in the sky before they got there. Even in World of Remnant, they were very careful with how they worded things to avoid spoiling this fact.
A large portion of ep 1 was intended to be in V6
Originally it was going to end with Penny being revealed, dealing with the Grimm, and ending on “Salutations”
Almost everything up until the Penny moment was how it was going to be in V6. For production and story reasons they decided to end V6 with just seeing Atlas.
Mantle is a little more Blade Runner and utilitarian looking, while Atlas was made to look like it was created by Apple. Two different futuristic looks.
When making the four kingdoms, they compared it to parts of the real world. Atlas and Mantle were two different versions of America
The drunk guy (Drunk Mann) we see insulting Blake is based off of Joel Mann and the other is Dustin Matthew (Grape-kun).
We saw Pietro (his hand) for the first time in Volume 3. They didn’t want to make him too similar to Dr. Weller from gen:LOCK, and so they made him to be like a ‘big’ kid. It’s where Penny gets a lot of her attitude from.
Kerry wants to do a show with all the old RWBY characters
V8 was harder to write than V7
It was a challenge in this episode to make it clear that Atlas is a new place for some characters, but a familiar one for several others, but that the Atlas in V7 is a different one than what they remember.
They try to theme the grimm to the location. So Grimm from Atlas are those that are from the Ice Age.
Miles compare Grimm to Pokemon. Some will pop up in every region, while others are region specific.
They had a lot of discussion surrounding what they wanted Penny 2.0 to look like. They considered giving her a conflict of her being a clone or not having her memories, but ultimately with the amount of stuff that needed to happen this volume they felt that it wouldn’t have been able to be done well.
Chapter 2
Featuring Kerry, Conner (director), and Kiersi
Forest became a fan-favorite
This episode was tricky to write because it was getting close to being an exposition dump
They had to balance movement and how much the characters can emote (especially when characters lie this episode)
Ironwood’s office shifting to present his plan was a cool idea + it was another way to stay in the room without having things get boring
Really wanted team RWBY to feel like they were on the right path and had something to follow. Establishing the trust theme early on.
Qrow and Ironwood’s relationship is super interesting to Kerry, and he wishes they could have explored it more. Conner pushed for Qrow’s hand to be lower in the hug scene (lol)
Conner jokes that he also proposed Ironwood should propose to Oscar when kneeling
Ironwood giving the relic back was his biggest sign of trust
They comment about how positively Penny states ‘it’ll be just like Beacon again!’ when she got destroyed there in V3
Kerry calls Watts ‘Daddy Long Legs’
Chapter 3
Featuring Kerry and Miles
They were confused when they saw people on Reddit and Tumblr think that this volume would have a shopping montage
Team RWBY jumping out of a plane is a callback to landing strategies and to see how far they have come since V1
The crew thought everyone would love Jaune’s new haircut, and was shocked when everyone immediately hated it. Miles wanted to see Jaune grow up a bit, so he liked the change.
They wanted team RWBY to start acting like and learning from professional huntsman
Miles wanted Atlas to feel like the Beacon days at first, and first came up with the idea that some Atlas academy professors would teach them. But that evolved into mentors, which eventually became Atlas’s best of the best.
The Ace-Ops are not only fun characters, but also foils to some of our main characters to help move their stories along
The Ace-Ops having five members + a team name not based on a color was very intentional. It was to show that Ironwood doesn’t care about Oz’s rules and would rather have an efficient team.
Eddy came up with the name Ace-Ops. Each member is based off an Aesop fable.
The mine scene has us seeing the SDC logo everywhere. Adam, as a terrible of a person as he was, when he was younger, was arguing with someone at a SDC place and the other person grabbed a brand and gave him his scar. So seeing the logo all over the mine was very intentional to put that in the forefront of Blake’s mind, and Yang notices
The fight with the Centinel grimm was originally supposed to be a bit longer and there was going to be an alpha variant of the centinel (which they imply we will see in the future)
Some characters got more upgrades than others. Weiss is already perfect, so she didn’t need any changes. Miles was excited that they were able to give Ren heavy rounds to shoot with. Ren has his father’s dagger on his arm
Many things that seem like retcons are actually not, and instead is just Kerry and Miles learning how to tell a story while simultaneously telling a story. So things were not always explained well early on.
Qrow and Clover were an interesting couple of characters, Miles says. For a long time Qrow was the guy that worked best alone (compared to Shadow the Hedgehog) and wanted him to interact with people that aren't his nieces and their friends. Clover was made to be a total bro and like Captain America- who always makes luck puns. He constantly feels like he is in an action movie because things always go right for him, so he doesn’t need to look where he’s about the jump. Which ultimately leads to someone who relies too much on their semblance. He rides the line of confidence vs arrogance. Clover is kind of person that Qrow always wanted to be. At the beginning of their friendship, Qrow doesn’t really like Clover and finds him irritating. But eventually it evolved into friendship, and later tragedy.
They left RWBY out of the battle of the Ace Ops vs the Geist to showcase how they didn’t need RWBY to get things done. It was their moment to shine
Wanted to give a sense in these first few episodes that, maybe everything will work out okay
Spoiler alert: It won’t
Chapter 4
Featuring Paula (co-director), Dustin (co-director), Eddy Rivas, Kerry Shawcross
Wanted a chance for the characters to breathe a bit before bigger things went down
Kerry loves the lighting in the first scene. They referenced how lighting looks in the tundra
The first draft of the scene where Ironwood is giving orders originally happened in his office
From V5 they learned it’s great to be efficient with sets but they can fatigue the audience and the crew
Originally the celebration wasn’t going to be in Amity, and instead it was going to be in Atlas’s version of an auditorium.
The ship Jacques arrives in is the same one Winter arrives from in V3. It’s a Schnee company ship
Paula thought it was important that Blake hold Weiss’s hand and be the first to stand by her side when Jaques is yelling at Weiss since Blake knows what it is like to be in an abusive relationship. Ruby and Yang didn’t even really know a father would talk like that to his daughter.
They were excited to write Penny and Winter’s ‘mirror-destiny’, which they laid some of the foundation for this episode
Qrow talking to Ruby was barely on the outline for the episode, but it was on their wish list if they had time to get it in.
Dustin says ‘fatherly’ when describing the moment and Kerry is like, ‘you just opened up a whole can of worms’
Eddy loves the ‘Jim’ gag when referring to Jaune.
Watt’s entrance was a difficult shot to execute properly because of the door.
Chapter 5
Featuring Conner, Eddy, and Kerry
They originally weren’t sure about having a montage in this episode
The penguins we see for a moment were possibly going to be grimm penguins
Kerry wants RT to sell the cards Clover has, and Eddy thinks it’s funny he would have cards with him emblem on them.
They liked having the moment of Clover and Qrow in the middle of this episode to show that Qrow is now becoming a mentee of sorts.
Adding in the Robin encounter was a late addition to the outline. She wasn’t going to be introduced until Chapter 6 during her rally
But they wanted to put the two factions head to head earlier on.
It was also the first moment of Clover being a bit duplicitous.
The plot line of tying the supplies through Robin’s storyline was a late addition while writing
Weiss vs Winter with summoning is a callback to V3C4 with them training together
Weiss being able to sit on hard-light (a block) is something Kerry was unsure about at first
Originally Weiss and Winter going to see Fria was going to be Winter getting an alert from Ironwood and having to leave, and Weiss following her suspiciously. But it worked better as Winter revealing a secret while Weiss was still keeping one
Chapter 6
Featuring Paula, Kiersi, Miles, Eddy, and Kerry
Eddy is the one who came up with the idea for the middle part of the season while he had a really bad fever
Originally Tyrian was going to make it look like a bunch of Atlas soldiers fired on civilians in Mantle. Then Eddie thought it should frame RWBY, but ultimately they went with framing Penny.
Nobody has ever offered Penny a fist bump before, so she wanted to do it perfectly
An old draft had the team and Ironwood doing an investigation at this warehouse post-massacre
There was also no montage in C5, just them sitting around a table talking about what they did
Miles also mentions there was going to be a scene in C3 with Marrow trying to bond with Blake about being a Faunus, and also about him specifically being a Faunus in Atlas who is a part of Atlas’s military team. But that episode was so packed they wanted to move it to C6, but then that episode also became too packed. But they plan to get to it in future volumes
They wanted to show how much the Happy Huntresses care about each other and about Mantle
They also originally did not want to have anything political in this season. But the more iterations they did, they felt it was the best course of action to do that with the story.
They wanted to give the heroes a high personal moment with Renora kissing right before things went down
Penny was not used to fighting sneaky enemies, so that is how Tyrian got the upper hand
While they don’t usually check back up on extras, things turned out that we kept seeing Drunk Mann and Grape-kun throughout the season to represent the city of Mantle
Chapter 7
Featuring Conner, Kiersi, Miles, Eddy, and Kerry
Fiona’s semblance was originally going to be Torchwick’s semblance, and it was called Deep Pockets. But they never found a moment for him to use it. So they decided he could be a great example of how some people don’t unlock their semblances
Originally some of C7 was meant for C4 where they found out earlier that Tyrian was involved with things
Miles wrote the description we got of Tyrian’s past (Salem first contacting Tyrian), and it was one of his favorite things to write.
Qrow looking at Clover when he is willing to go with Ironwood’s plan was meant to show some distance growing between the two
We were going to get more of Ren explaining why he was feeling the way he was and agreeing with Ironwood, but ultimately they are pushing it to next volume
Originally Blake and Yang were going to directly reference Adam when they had their talk, but they later figured out how to reference him indirectly
The arm robot Pietro has in his office was originally going to have more of a character like the robotic arm Tony Stark has
They tried hard to get Maria more scenes, but there was often no room for it
Miles realizes he was dumb to suggest that Pietro cover Watt’s face with his thumb while looking at a picture since they already did that with Raven in V3
The lady in the photograph with black hair is not Cinder’s mom (which was apparently a fan theory)
Robin encountering the Bees was a late edition to the outline. But it gave every member of RWBY a moment
They wanted the vault in the Academy to feel similar to the one in Haven but not a direct copy
Miles believes that if Ironwood would allow himself to be more vulnerable more often things would’ve gone differently
The invitation to the Schnee manor was originally going to be to a news conference
Chapter 8
Featuring Dustin, Miles, and Kerry
They didn’t specify what the hood ornament on the car would be, so Dustin was happy when it came back as a velociraptor, which references a raptor Monty Oum would put in photos with RWBY characters
Fans have guessed what direction they are going with Whitley. He starts off as a jerk, but Miles implies that is going to change. It is also an easy way to remind the audience of how the elite act
At the table, Jacques’s chair is bigger than everyone else's
Miles wrote the gag of JNR sabotaging Whitley’s conversation with Weiss and expected it to take only a few seconds, but as more people worked on it the longer it got
The stack of food was taller than Dustin expected it to be, and they even had to scale it back because it was going to be even taller
Another power move of Jacques is to only give a few people wine, as well as not giving Penny any food
Willow was originally going to be in the intro
A joke was made about Salem being Jaune’s sister in the V6 intro before everyone knew who she was
None of the writers expected Penny and Winter to have such a bond this volume initially
Miles wanted to portray when Weiss is talking to Willow that she doesn’t really know how to act around an adult with such an adult issue. Since Weiss is quite young (Miles compared it to him having to help an adult with an adult issue when he was 13)
Chapter 9
Featuring Paula (director), Kiersi, Eddy, and Kerry
It was difficult to keep the shots interesting in the dining room
We see Grape-kun and Drunk Mann again this episode
In earlier chapters they made sure to have an orange glow to represent the heating in Mantle since they knew it would be turned off in chapter 8
They wanted to showcase that Ironwood was starting to have doubts, which would later be clearly seen in episode 11
The foot soldiers (AKs) that the Grimm are able to overwhelm in only a few seconds were meant to represent that Atlas wouldn’t provide them with much defense against Grimm because they don’t care enough
Every storyline was coming together in this episode, and it’s tricky to make a setup episode like this not seem like filler
Ruby and Oscar’s awkward interaction came from them both ‘riding the high’ of the moment where it seems like they each have great plans that will go well.
Oscar is starting to tap into some of Ozpin’s memories, as alluded to when he mentions how Atlas is held to a higher standard
Terry the grimm being hit by a fireball (part of a plane I believe) was a call back to Jurassic Park
They struggled a long time with where to put the Neo reveal
Chapter 10
Featuring Conner, Dustin, Kiersi, and Kerry
They felt that if they showed a lot in the first scene of the episode, they wouldn’t have to saturate the background with other fires and crowds.
The shot of Weiss’s knight being summoned and overshadowing Marrow is setting up their fight in C12
When seeing the shots of the enemies infiltrating the kingdom, they didn’t know if they wanted to show Neo and Cinder or Tyrian and Watts first. But they went with Neo and Cinder because it would show that they thought their cover was blown, when it would really be about the other two.
The place Neo and Cinder are staying at is an Atlas ‘high-life’ apartment
They always knew Elm would have a rocket launcher/bazooka, but never got the time needed to show it until now
They had to restructure Mantle a bit to allow the huge elephant to fit in the streets
The main characters working with the Ace Ops in this episode was to make it so things hurt so much more after events in the following one
All the background characters apparently have little backstories as they made sure they didn’t appear in two places at the same time
Ironwood jumps down a ridiculous number of feet to meet Watts. They had to cheat to not make that so obvious as well as say this is animation logic so people working on the shot would stop questioning how he could possibly make it.
Chapter 11
Featuring Kerry, Paula, and Miles
Originally a gravity biome in Amity was going to appear in V3C5. It was going to be Sun and Neptune vs Pyrrha and Nora. It was written, boarded, and ready to go but they realized there wasn’t time for it
This was a hard episode to write. A lot of stuff that needed to happen, and happen in a specific way
Watt’s gun was inspired a 20-shot revolver Kerry saw on Reddit
Ironwood losing another hand represents him losing another part of his humanity (possibly confirming he lost his one organic arm)
The first cut of this episode was 23 minutes and was deemed too long so they had to scale back, but they still felt they kept in everything that was needed to make the episode great
Initially the Tyrian vs Qrow, Robyn, and Clover fight was going to be a chase that turns into a fight that turns into another chase. And Qrow is the only one that could keep up with Tyrian since he can transform into a bird. Qrow would land in front of Tyrian and say ‘that’s enough’ and Tyrian would ask, ‘are you able to talk when you’re a bird or do you have to wait until you’re a person to throw your one-liners?’ (Tyrian asking the real questions here) Tyrian’s lack of self-preservation would be shown even more. He would have run down an alley packed with Grimm and would just trust that he could’ve made it through
The fight with Tyrian was initially going to be more of a Tyrian vs Qrow fight, but Miles loves that they made it a 3 v 1 so it could show off Tyrian’s exceptional skill
The fight was also a callback to the first Tyrian vs Qrow fight, where Ruby tried to be good back up for Qrow but was ineffective. But instead this time have Robyn and Clover be effective and more experienced teammates
Clover is defense, Qrow is offense, and Robyn is picking away at Tyrian with her long-ranged weapon
There was going to be more discussion of where Oscar was at the end of the episode, as well as a whole bit where the Ace Ops and the kids land and they get a hand-written note saying they’ve been compromised instead of getting it via scroll, but it turned out to be too much
The scene of Ironwood talking to RWBY and his turn to being against them was the most important scene in the episode, and something everything in the season had to build up to
Miles said it was about time the two sides met face to face with RWBY meeting Salem
They wanted to make Ironwood’s progression into villainy subtle and make sense
Salem made things personal for Ironwood, so he felt like he had to come up with a solution
They wanted more Cinder and Neo in the volume but had to cut back. But to compensate they had to be instrumental to the collapse of Ironwood (Miles first said collapse of Atlas so wonder if he slipped up)
Chapter 12
Featuring Dustin, Conner, Kiersi, Eddy, and Kerry
They wanted to have a false sense of resolution in the previous episode just to blow everything up here
Eddy handled the Ace Ops vs RWBY and Winter scenes while Kiersi handled the rest
Kerry learned from V5 that having everyone in one room for a fight doesn’t work well
Eddy is a big Weiss stan
Clover has no idea who he’s up against with Tyrian, and thinks of Qrow as the big threat, as well as Tyrian manipulating Qrow
Clover saw both Qrow and Tyrian on the wrong side of the law, so he felt like he had to fight both of them no matter what
They made sure team RWBY can’t just stomp on the Ace Ops, but still show their teamwork. Plus the lack of Clover being there didn’t allow for the team to have a ‘cheat code’
This is another episode they had to trim down in length
Cinder was always going to lay waste to the medical facility and attack Winter
They also wanted to do a Qrow vs Tyrian reprisal
Kerry said he loves Clover
It was crazy for Qrow to meet someone that was a genuinely good person
Chapter 13
Featuring Miles, Kerry, and Eddy
The Neo vs ORNJ fight could have been shorter
At one point they wanted to show Cinder using maiden magic to bring some dead AKs (Atlesian-Knight) back to life to fight Penny (was going to be some sort of puppet joke).
But Miles realized that Cinder could just blow up the room and bust through the walls
Ren is struggling with some heavy emotional stuff that is not resolved at all this volume, but it is hinted there will be a lot more for him next volume.
The writers knew a lot of people wouldn’t be happy with Ren’s attitude this volume. But he still cares about Nora, even if he doesn’t always communicate it well
Miles cried during the voice over session of Fria’s scenes for this episode
They had a lot of talks about how the maiden power would be transferred. They debated if Penny would have to kill Fria.
Originally one pod was going to be broken, with the one with Fria being in tact. But because Penny is a robot, she could ‘remote-interface in’ and get the powers. But that still felt like stealing, and they didn’t want to go that route.
Oscar has matured so much in his role (joking call him Farm Man)
Ironwood is still expecting Oz to show up. He still really wants that guidance
Ironwood arguing with Oscar was the finale scene they wrote this episode
Ironwood feels that he is backed into a corner and is doing the only sensible thing.
Winter was waiting to be the Winter Maiden her whole life, but in a split second she gives it all up
There was one line in Oz’s monologue they were struggling with for a whole day
They loved the idea of ending the volume on almost an identical shot from where they started
Neo’s look after Cinder takes the relic and doesn’t thank Neo for getting it is setting up some things for V8 (probably a betrayal)
Oz came back at that moment because he heard what Oscar said to Ironwood and that made him brave enough to return
Miles reveals that the Grimm whale is based on Monstro from Pinocchio
It is once again said that Volume 8 is the hardest one they had to write so far. Miles seems super excited about it
Volume 8 was made with some fan-input in mind (since it was still being written by the time V7 ended), but Volume 9 will be the first one written in a vacuum
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fayevalcntine · 4 years ago
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can we talk about how over the course of her relationship with logan, rory is more or less conditioned to just be okay with everything he does?? whenever she expresses displeasure or disapproval with him he gets upset and persuades her into not being upset??? and it happens like. every single time. she’s a bit more resistant when he cheats, but even then he throws a tantrum until she agrees to forgive him. (1/2)
like in s5 when he tells her to come over without mentioning he has friends over (and then ignoring her all night), or in s6 when he goes over to the pool house and invites a bunch of friends over without her permission, even when he cheats, or fucks off to vegas in s7. she gets upset but he convinces her that her side of things doesn’t matter, and she’s never allowed to develop past that.
Yeah, Rory just has to let so many things be his way in their relationship and whenever they're not, or she even simply disagrees with him about something, it always has to be his way otherwise he'll get upset and argue with her until she relents or he'll leave if she doesn't back down.
Logan's main problem in their relationship, even when he seemingly doesn't have it in season 7, is that he just doesn't know how to properly communicate with Rory. Specifically, he doesn't want to hear her side or he simply won't accept her side as one with valid arguments against his own, like when they have a fight at the bar after Jess leaves, and she tells him how he (very accurately) possesses more opportunities in his lifetime than so many other people have, even her. Another example that is similar to this is when he's so personally offended by her article about rich people that he feels the need to bring up her own family's wealth and how he's "just like him" in terms of having money and opportunities. But even if Rory does have that, why exactly should she not criticize wealthy people and their behavior that stems from that? And on what ground does Logan get to stand on to tell her that she shouldn't write such an article simply because her grandparents have money and are more than happy to use it for whatever they wish? In both scenarios, Logan takes to victimizing himself over his family's money and influence and how he so blatantly uses it, while at the same time considering himself someone who has no opportunities outside from the one role his father has planned out for him (despite the fact that said role is such a significant one and he's going to be starting off with a vastly bigger step than other people by literally inheriting a company). I will have to at least give him credit for going to talk to her after they have the latter fight, but I hate that his fans view this as such a significant moment over someone acknowledging Rory's privilege as if Logan has any ground to stand on when it comes to that.
In the scene where Rory shows up to find him playing cards with his friends, I can never understand fans loving it when Rory was pretty clear on wanting to meet up with him to talk to him personally. And he doesn't even allow her that because he spends the entire night talking to his friends while playing, even though he knew she likely wanted some time with him alone. The scene itself might not be this significant since they're not officially involved yet, but it's so foreshadowing in how Logan's general attitude towards Rory's requests can be. Whether it's him controlling the setting that Rory comes in or him basically telling her to drop everything and go with him to New York on a whim, or even inviting his friends over to the pool house with a European girl that is a complete stranger and speaks no English, Logan only seems to do whatever he wants to do without taking her feelings or plans into consideration. This can even be pointed out in how he relentlessly pursues her after he decides he wants her back, despite the fact that he was the one who "broke up" with her through his own sister in the first place. And he doesn't take no for an answer from her until she gives in, even going so far as to go and pester Lorelai about it when whether or not Rory wants to take him back is her own decision, not her mother's.
I hate the cheating thing, it's the most irritating and idiotic thing Logan ever did and even if you take his side and not consider it cheating, it's beyond fucked up that he knew that the girls he hooked up with would be at the wedding and that Rory could easily bump into them, never mind the fact that he left her in a room with them while they were preparing for the wedding. I hate how the show again frames all these girls as flighty and promiscuous, therefore distrustful (Logan even takes to calling them "vipers" as if they're personally out to get him), when if anything else it's his fault that he didn't even tell her? He should've been honest about sleeping with them while they were apart, and even if he didn't consider it cheating, it vexes me so much how he never even takes Rory's feelings into consideration at all here. 
LOGAN: I've not even thought about another girl. RORY: Except for Walker, Alexandra... LOGAN: We were broken up, Rory. RORY: No, you were. LOGAN: I thought we were broken up. I thought that's what the fight was. I thought that's what the separation was. Do you believe me? Do you believe that I honestly thought we weren't together? RORY: I guess. LOGAN: So then, if you believe that, that I thought we weren't together, then do you believe that, in my mind, I was not cheating on you? RORY: I guess.
He doesn't apologize for not telling her, he doesn't apologize for hurting her feelings, he doesn't even give her any space when it's clear that she wants to be alone at Paris's. He corners her and gives her an even dumber version of Ross's "we were on a break!" routine, only by saying that in his mind it wasn't cheating because he thought they were broken up. Again, he doesn't take Rory's side into consideration at all here, especially since he personally decided they were broken up instead of it being a mutual one. What I especially hate after all of this is that Rory is understandably still bitter over it, seeing as how she wasn't even allowed to be angry, and when she becomes passive-aggressive towards him, he takes to being the victim again.
LOGAN: [...] You haven't forgiven me. RORY: What are you talking about? LOGAN: For the girls I was with when we were separated. RORY: I said I forgive you.  LOGAN: Yeah, you said it, but you haven't, though. You haven't. I'll be at the pub. 
In this entire scenario, Rory’s viewed as unjust and unfair towards Logan, and only his feelings are taken into account when it comes to her unresolved anger. And of course, Rory’s feelings are even further unresolved and never mentioned beyond this episode because Logan (conveniently) almost dies on his trip with his friends, which prompts Rory to feel guilty and immediately take to his side to nurse him back to health. Rory’s never allowed to process through her feelings over the cheating argument, and she’s never even allowed to see her feelings as justified because again, Logan never told her about it. For even the most practical reasons, he should’ve at least mentioned that he wasn’t exactly celibate during their time apart. 
It’s telling how even with his improved behavior in season 7, Logan still doesn’t tell Rory the truth about why he ran away to Vegas with his friends until after he comes back. It’s baffling that we’re suddenly supposed to accept him telling his father that he doesn’t want to work for him anymore and is set upon improving himself for the course of over 2 episodes, before he yet again, makes the decision himself to propose to Rory when he never even discussed marriage with her before that. And not only does he propose, but he does so right in front of her family and friends at her own graduation party. I don’t think I need to explain how public proposals are pretty manipulative if they’re done suddenly and without the approval of both parties for it. Logan’s decision being that he breaks up with Rory as soon as she makes her answer clear that it’s no, because she wants to live her life after just having finished university, just makes the before-mentioned ‘development’ that he was given fall flat to me. Yes, it’s great that he’s decided to make something of himself outside of his own family’s influence, but this comes right near the end of the season without us seeing him even think about it or consider it before that, and even after this, he still takes to only doing what he thinks is right and doesn’t take no for an answer from Rory. 
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scenariosonscenarios · 5 years ago
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I hate him!
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Nafla x reader
Genre: fluff, love/hate, comedy
Summary: Nafla treated you mean every time he saw you and you were fed up with it.
“I literally just stepped through the door, don’t start with me” you threatened as you walked to the refrigerator. You were trying to have a good day and hang out with your friends mkit rain, well...mkit rain minus Nafla.
As soon as you stepped through the door he had something to say and it took every nerve in your body not to be combative and argue.
“Why you always picking on her you must have a crush or something” bloo said with a sly smirk on his face
“Shut the hell up I don’t like her even in the slightest” Nafla said in return
“Well I don’t like you neither you bug eyed bitch” you said lowly but still just enough for him to hear. Before he could go on to send back an insult west walked in and your attention was completely thrown to him.
“Youngwoo!” You called out cheerfully, the two of you hugging each other. Nafla rolled his eyes and looked away which made his face meet bloo’s, his smirk bigger and holding more mischief than before on the males face. What you didn’t seem to catch on to is that Nafla has a crush on you but was scared to say anything. How could he confess to you when the two of you argued and fought like cats and dogs every time you were together? He was well aware that he usually started all the fights but he didn’t know how to express his like towards you any other type of way.
Especially since youngwoo was always blocking any connection. Every time he was around he’d have to watch you gush and act like a kindergartener around their first crush. You giving all your attention to youngwoo just made him mad and insult you harder.
“[___] I haven’t even showered yet. Let me go get myself fresh then you can hug on me” youngwoo said with a small laugh when you wouldn’t let go.
“You don’t even smell and you’re so cuddly I can’t let go” you said latched onto him
“Get off the boy already you roach” Nafla blurted our before he could stop himself. On the outside he showed no emotion but on the inside he was banging his head against a wall.
“Why can’t you ever just shut up and mind your business? Why are you so worried about me hm? Are you secretly a fan?” You retorted back in frustration.
“You’re clearly irritating west. I swear to god you’re like a leech” he said while looking at his phone
“I’m not irritated” youngwoo said quickly in response, his hands squishing your cheeks to reassure you
“Tank you” you said through fishy lips as the tall boy mushed your face
“You’re so cute” he said with a cute smile before letting go. Bloo laughed to himself knowing you and youngwoo were getting on Nicholas’s nerves and Nafla glared at him although it didn’t stop the man from continuing to laugh at him and his situation.
“What’s funny?” You asked bloo with a clueless face
“Just watching something funny on my phone” he said looking down at the device.
“Maybe you and youngwoo should go on a date, you two look cute together” Owen said from the corner of the room once he finally tuned in and decided to be social.
“Ugly people aren’t youngwoo’s type” Nafla said in response to him
You gripped the bottle of water in your hand so tightly you thought it would burst. In anger you launched it hard at nafla’s head watching as he flinched and held the spot it hit.
“Why can’t you just shut up! Every time I’m in the room you just have to say something mean to me and I’m sick of it! Don’t invite me over here anymore unless he’s not here” you said grabbing your stuff
“[___] don’t be that way, you know he’s just joking” youngwoo said
“No he’s not west! He’s picking on me just because! I swear to god I hate him so much and I mean it! I genuinely hate him!” You said before storming out.
“I smelled that one coming” bloo said with a sigh
“Shut up bloo” Owen said in a monotone voice
“I didn’t know she’d get all worked up over me saying that” Nafla said
“I’m sure you’d get worked up too if you were minding your business but she always had something to say”
“Oh so I’m the bad guy?” He asked in disbelief
“Yes”
“Absolutely”
“No shit”
Nafla sighed and shook his head. He may have been pushing you a little too much to your limit lately.
“I’ll go apologize to her tomorrow” he said
“Hopefully you get the balls to confess. I’m tired of you acting like a kid” bloo said crossing his arms
“Well it’s hard to considering she has a thing for west” Nafla said
“Ooo...about that. She actually doesn’t have a crush on me” he said scratching his head awkwardly
“How do you know?” Nafla asked in response
“She kind of told me she liked you but she wouldn’t say anything because you probably didn’t like her back. You didn’t hear it from me though” he said raising his hands in defense
“Shit, I’m gonna head to her apartment now” Nafla said going to search for his keys
“At this rate she’ll probably murder you as soon as she sees you” bloo said
“Shut up” west said
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Nafla stood in front of your door nervously. He’d actually been sitting there for about 5 minutes. He was scared to knock for some reason considering he didn’t know what your reaction would be.
But before he could think on it any further, the door swung open. You in more comfortable clothes as you held a bag of garbage.
“What do you want?” You asked him with little to no kindness.
“I came here to apologize” he said to you
“Save it” you said getting ready to walk away until he blocked you with his body.
“Move before I make you move” you said threateningly
“Listen to me please. I need to apologize and explain myself to you” he said
“Go ahead” you said to him with an attitude
“I like you...I like you a lot and I don’t know how to control it when I’m around you so I say dumb shit” he said. You stared at him with a blank expression while biting your lip, clueless to what you should say. You were relieved to say the least though considering you had a crush on Nafla. You thought he hated you for no reason at first.
“You should’ve told me sooner. I like you too Nafla but for a moment you almost lost me. I felt like I was going to hate you forever if you kept bullying me” you told him
“I won’t ever treat you like that again” he said
“Make it up to me by taking me on a date” you said
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regolithheart · 5 years ago
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Love In The Time of Coronavirus: Chapter Six
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Summary: One pandemic, one lake house, and two people who loathe one another. Will they be able to survive the outbreak...and each other?
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CHAPTER SIX:
It was the end of the week and despite their rocky beginning, both Nesta and Cassian had made it through without causing any physical harm to one another. Much to Nesta’s surprise, they had even fallen into a daily routine with shared breakfasts, cocktails at five on the dot, and even cooking dinner together.
She had enjoyed that part of her days the most—almost looking forward to 6pm when she’d wander into the kitchen to see what they were having for dinner. It was easy to talk to Cassian when most of his attention was elsewhere and with her own small tasks to be done, she could easily ignore him if he was being too…Cassian.
Too Cassian.
Before the quarantine she would have labeled him as irritating—too full of himself and stubborn. Things came easy to Cassian: his smile, his jokes, flirting. He was at ease in every situation because he took nothing seriously whereas Nesta took everything seriously. She didn’t understand how he did it, moved through life without analyzing every minuscule detail of it. 
Before the quarantine she would have labeled him as a beautiful idiot, because yes, she couldn’t deny the fact that he was good-looking. Try as she might, even alone in her bedroom with no one else to judge her. She still couldn’t say those words, that looking at Cassian sometimes made her weak in the knees.
But that had been before the quarantine. After spending almost a whole week with him, Nesta had begun to discover other parts of Cassian. That he was an attentive listener and generous with his time. That he smiled at everything, even when it wasn’t funny. That he stuck the tip of his tongue out when he was trying to be flirty, but also subconsciously, when he was concentrating on something.
And in the span of six days, she had caught herself wondering what Cassian looked like shirtless, at least twice. Once, when she saw him lounging outside on one of the deck chairs. The rising sun had painted his face with a golden glow and she had wondered what it would have looked like, spilling across his broad shoulders. And a second time, when he had off-handedly pulled back the collar of his shirt to reveal that yes, he did in fact know what real pain was as marked by the whorls of black ink on his flesh.
Nesta had allowed herself a two second glance that had her stomach doing cartwheels. She had bit her lip hard enough to hurt and avoided his eyes for the rest of the dinner. 
Yes, Nesta still thought Cassian was brash and too loud. He didn’t know how to respect personal boundaries and made everything his business. And how on Earth he wasn’t able to sit still or in silence for ten minutes straight would always grate on Nesta’s nerves. But he was also all the other small things that she had began discovering as well, the things that made her reconsider how much she actually despised him. 
Which made her flustered for completely other reasons. 
Looking around for something to distract her, her eyes fell onto her phone. 
Perhaps she should finally give Feyre a call. She was beginning to feel guilty for not reaching out, especially because she hadn’t spoken to her baby sister since before their quarantining began. 
Glancing at her watch, she figured now was as good a time as any. 
Feyre picked up on the second ring.
“Nesta, hi. How are you?” Her voice was soft, happy.
“I wanted to check up on you. Is this a good time?”
“Yes, of course. I’m glad you called.”
Nesta could hear people talking in the background, but it had quieted down when Feyre spoke again. “How are things going with Cas—“ She cleared her throat. “How are you doing?”
Nesta scrunched her nose. She wasn’t sure why, but she had suddenly became annoyed. “Fine.”
Feyre was quiet, but when Nesta didn’t provide any further detail, she spoke again. “That’s good… all of my classes are online now… how’s work?”
Nesta shrugged even though she knew Feyre couldn’t see her. “Business as usual. Some people can’t do their jobs when they’re at work or at home.”
Feyre gave her a small chuckle. “Not everyone is as brilliant as you.” She paused a moment. “What about Cassian? Are you guys getting along?”
There it was again, that lick of irritation. “He’s fine. We’re fine. I can actually be civil, you know.”
“I know that! I was just asking. Making sure he wasn’t giving you a hard time or anything.” 
“No.” Nesta felt just a smidge bit guilty. “I mean, he’s not being any more of a pain in my ass than he usually is.” She didn’t know why she was compelled to add, “We’ve been… making dinner together. We’re also taking turns making breakfast.”
“You’re making breakfast?”
“I know how to scoop yogurt into a bowl!”
Feyre laughed. “Can’t argue with you there. You’re the best at it!” 
“Damn right, I am.”
“Do you fan out the bananas and dot the granola with raspberries for Cassian, too?”
“No. He has not proven himself worthy of banana-fanning yet.”
Feyre laughed again. “Good. Only Archerons get fanned bananas.” After a few seconds, she let out a soft sigh and her voice was gentle. “But you’re doing okay?” 
Nesta bit the inside of her cheek. It was always like Feyre to try and take care of them. Sweet, gentle, Elain, she understood, but sometimes Nesta hated the implication that she couldn’t take care of herself. 
“Yes, yes. I’m fine, Feyre.”
“Good. And Elain? Have you talked to her? I try to call but we keep missing each other.”
“I talked to her last night. She sounds bored out of her mind, but I don’t know what she expected locking herself up in an apartment with Graysen.”
“Nesta.” There was that motherly tone again.
“Tell me you disagree.”
“She loves him.”
Nesta’s only response was a derisive snort. 
When Feyre spoke again, the austerity was gone and was replaced with a hint of mischievousness that Nesta had learned to detect years ago. “I’m glad you don’t sound like you’re bored out of your mind.”
“I’ve been busy with work.”
“In a beautiful house with the best scenery?”
“It’s… tolerable.”
Feyre cackled at that. “I’ll make sure to let Rhys know that you think his house is tolerable.”
“Please, don’t. It’ll just make his head bigger. I mean come on, Feyre. Who installs a full-sized sauna in their home?”
Her sister’s giggles were starting to become contagious and Nesta smiled. “I thought that, too, but just give in to the sauna, Nesta. You won’t regret it.”
“Fine, but two Pelotons?” 
“Okay. I’ll agree with you on that one, but it’s so much nicer when we don’t have to readjust the seat every time we want to ride.” 
“Unbelievable. You know, Elain and I had to share one bike until I was ten.” 
“Yes, and I got all your hand-me-downs.” 
Nesta smirked to herself. 
“Listen, I gotta go. We’re just about to eat dinner.”
The photo of Feyre looking so happy with her new found family flashed in Nesta’s mind, making her chest feel oddly tight. “Okay. Have a good night.”
“You, too. Love ya.”
“Same.”
“Bye bye.” Feyre hung up, leaving Nesta’s room feeling even more quiet than it had before.
Wondering what to do with the rest of her day, she gave the book on her nightstand a dejected glance. 
Normally, she would have jumped at the opportunity to spend the whole day reading, but she felt restless and decided that perhaps she should make use of the Peloton and sauna downstairs. It wasn’t as though she had any other plans and it would give her a chance to work out some of her sudden listlessness. 
Silently thanking Elain for making her pack gym clothes, she changed into a matching set of stormy blue high-waisted tights and sports bra and gave herself a once over in the full-length mirror as she pulled her hair into a high pony-tail. Out of habit, she swiped her lips with her favorite mint balm before leaving the room.
The house was quiet and for a brief second, Nesta wondered were Cassian was. Again, his bedroom door was ajar and the room empty and she hadn’t heard him in the kitchen either. 
She wondered if he was stretched out on the lawn as she’d seen him before, during her work days—no doubt spying on her or more likely, trying to get on her nerves and distract her from important emails and conference calls. It couldn’t have been a coincidence that he had chosen to reposition the outdoor furniture to sit perfectly framed in the view from the office window. 
Nesta was debating whether or not she should call him out on it the next time she saw him when she entered the gym and stopped dead in her tracks. 
Standing in the middle of the room, toweling off his brow was Cassian. His t-shirt was loose and the V of the collar hung low, revealing the sculpted hardness of his chest. Muscles defined and taut in a deep bronze, glistened with sweat. The dark curling ends of his tattoo rippled as he moved—like ink gliding over water—and Nesta’s fingertips tingled.
Looking up, his finally saw her standing in the doorway. Their eyes locked for what felt like an eternity and then he spoke, breaking the spell.
“Morning, sweetheart.” He grinned, slinging his towel over his shoulder.
Nesta crossed her arms, narrowing her eyes. “Don’t call me that.”
Cassian chuckled, making it sound like she’d just told a joke instead of sending a death glare his way. 
“I’d ask if you were lost, but judging from your outfit, it doesn’t look like you’re on your way to the ball.”
Nesta watched as Cassian’s eyes dragged from her sneakers up her legs, then torso, and then… 
She turned, walking over to the stationary bikes, hoping he hadn’t caught the flush that was beginning to bloom across her chest. 
Looking at the Peloton, Nesta began to question her decision. Thinking she should switch over to the treadmill, she felt Cassian’s breath against the shell of her ear. 
“Here, let me help.”
How he had managed to sneak up behind her without her noticing was a surprise, but not as big of one as how close he had gotten. She could feel the heat radiating off of him and if she took a half-step back, there was a strong chance she wouldn’t have been able to stop herself from melting into him. 
Instead, she straightened her back and at the sudden lost of heat, knew that Cassian had widened the distance between them. Chancing a glance behind her, she saw him leaning against the treadmill. His hand gently—casually—rubbing the back of his neck.
“You need special shoes for that,” he said, jutting his chin towards the pedals. “Feyre’s are in the cabinet. You wear the same size, right?”
Nesta took her time retrieving the shoes and putting them on, anything to give her a moment to even out her breathing and collect herself. It was only the surprise of running into him that had thrown her off. 
Focus, Nesta. You’ve seen a muscled man before. 
When she got back to the bikes, Cassian was already tinkering with the levers and bolts. 
“You’re taller than Feyre. We’ll have to adjust the seat.” He held out his hand. 
Nesta swallowed, but did not let her hand slip into his. Instead, she nudged him away with her elbow to give herself some space.
Cassian chuckled. He remained standing where Nesta had pushed him, but he was still close enough for her to feel the rumble of his laughter on her skin—close enough for her to smell the salt and sweat on him.
She scowled. 
Cassian moved behind her to tug at the seat, adjusting it to align with her hip before leaning over to tighten the screw, fixing it into place. She watched as his arms flexed, the tight chords of his muscles shifting easily beneath that deep copper skin. 
She realized she had never stood this close to him before, so close that she could see a bead of sweat glide down the chiseled stone column of his neck and she hated the tightness she was feeling in the pit of her stomach, but she also couldn’t look away. 
When Cassian straightened, Nesta bristled. 
“I need you to hold your arm out so I can adjust the seat distance. Elbow at the seat front.” 
This time, Nesta did finally allow Cassian to guide her and the gentle brush of his hand at her elbow, her arm, felt oddly intimate. His palm was calloused and the scrape of it against her skin made her spine tingle. 
His hands were so big.
Nesta was reminded of where she was when Cassian told her she could get onto the bike. Eager for the distraction, she locked her shoe into the pedal and swung her leg around to the other side. Again, she felt the heat of Cassian’s body close to her skin, this time from the hand hovering just above the small of her back.
“I can handle it from here,” she said, dismissing him.
Clearing her throat, she began scrolling through the classes on the screen, not chancing a look at him.
She had already felt too vulnerable in the five minutes standing next to him and now that she was sitting on a bike, her feet locked into place, she couldn’t allow herself the possibility of toppling over, or worse, not being able to escape if he fixed her with one of his looks. 
Cassian didn’t say anything until he got to the door. Not turning back, he said, “Have fun,” before leaving.
It wasn’t until Nesta heard the door click shut that she let her shoulders sag. Expelling a deep breath, she shook out the tension in her arms, her neck. 
Scrolling through the classes, she decided a ninety minute power ride was exactly what she needed to shake the unfamiliar jitteriness that had suddenly seized her entire body. 
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Cassian let his forehead rest against the wall as he released a shuttering breath. He had made it to the end of the hallway before having to stop to collect himself. Slinging his towel across the back of his neck, he grabbed both ends and tugged firmly. 
God.
He had barely made it out of there. Had surprised himself when he was able to say something that wasn’t a declaration of how much he wanted to kiss her, touch her. 
He hadn’t been expecting it, her showing up at the gym like that and in those clothes…
He had always thought she was gorgeous. She had taken his breath away the first time he had laid eyes on her and in their subsequent meetings, she’d only proven herself more and more beautiful. But today… with that thin material matching the exact color of her eyes and clinging to each and every one of her curves, he couldn’t help himself. He just had to be near her.
And so he moved—stalked in three long strides—close enough to touch her, but not daring to. 
He had half-expected her to turn around and snap at him. To claw at him with her nails and her words. And when she didn’t, and he saw the blush against the shell of her ear, exactly where his breath had been, he thought that maybe…
But her back had stiffened and so he backed away, tried to plaster on that cool exterior he could easily hide behind, not wanting to make her more uncomfortable than she had been. Of course, he was only human and when she walked off to find Feyre’s shoes, Cassian’s eyes had followed her. Followed those long legs, the curve of her backside, and the swell of her hips as they swayed. 
He had had to muster every bit of strength in his body to remain calm. And for a moment, he had considered leaving the room to escape the torture. 
But as soon as she’d come back within arm’s reach of him, he couldn’t walk away. And she had let him touch her arm. 
It had been the most chaste of touches. A past Cassian would have laughed at himself for being so modest, but it had set his hand on fire. Her skin was so soft, and for a heartbeat, he had let himself wonder if she’d let him touch her anywhere else. Her shoulder? Her neck? Those pouty lips? 
If she’d let him, he’d trace his fingertips across that delicate skin to mark her—let her know where his mouth would follow. 
Cassian groaned.
He felt foolish, like a giddy teenager touching a girl for the first time, instead of the grown man he was. One who had taken many lovers, all of whom had let him do much more than touch their elbow. 
And that was the problem, wasn’t it?
They had let him—wanted him to, begged him, in fact. But Nesta… all she did was push him away and brush him off. She had glared at him and bristled at his closeness. And when he was done being useful, she had dismissed him wholly. 
Cassian had thought that she was finally beginning to thaw against him. Their interactions had become cordial, almost friendly at times. But again, she had managed to prove him wrong. 
He raked a hand through his hair, tugging hard. Then pushed himself off the wall, and headed upstairs, looking to take a very, very cold shower. 
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itsanerdlife · 6 years ago
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Chasing The Dream 6/10
Pairing: Peter Parker x Reader (High School/College AU)
Warning: Angst. Underage drinking. Jealousy. Language. Heartbreak and arguing.
A/N: This is the series, the prequel of Chasing Dreams One Shot. They do overlap so if you need to read it I can link it when time comes.
Your father always warned you about musicians. They’re never good news, but Peter Parker is everything you could want. The other half to your groupie, rocker baby soul. Peter and the guys have big dreams to be rock stars, you couldn’t be a bigger fan of theirs. But your dad’s got a different path for your future, one that doesn’t include Peter and his band. But can Fame and dreams coming true really keep the two of you apart? Is this just a high school love? Or will you make it through the struggle of chasing your dreams?
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High School –
Y/N (Reality Waiting Just Around the Corner)
The guys first played at Amy Thompson’s birthday bash. She decided to have and being that she had to top everything and everyone, she had to have a real band for it. Things got interesting after that. Suddenly each weekend it was a new house and a different party they were being asked to play at.
You’d sneak out your bedroom window, running off into the dark with Peter during week nights. On the weekends, you told your parents you were staying with Nat and Wanda. Your father was getting pushy with the college brochures, sending new ones all the time. You stopped opening them, shoving them into your desk drawer and slipping out your window.
You had another argument with your dad on the phone about keeping your focus on the goal, college. Junior year was coming to a close, and you were looking forward to the summer with Peter and your friends. Your dad was talking college tours and getting a jump on your applications. You ended up yelling at one another and told him you weren’t joining him on tour this summer. You were going to enjoy your last summer at home.
Walking into the party late, irritated and already on the edge of losing your mind. You didn’t see Peter, the one party the guys weren’t playing. Which should have meant a good, fun night. You find Nat holding two fifths and sitting with Buck and a few others you knew.
“Hey you look rough.” She jumps up.
“I don’t even want to talk about it.” You sigh.
“Yours.” She nods, handing over the flavored liquor.
“Anyone seen Peter?” You crack the lid and put it to your lips.
“He was heading for the keg in the kitchen not long ago.” Buck nods, pointing to another set of doors.
You nod, heading for them. Taking long pulls from the bottle as you make your way. Pushing into the kitchen you glance around, you double take. She was in Peter’s lap, his hand on the small of her back, the table and the both of them played quarters on the kitchen table. You turn on your heels heading straight back to Nat.
“What’s wrong?” Nat jumps up this time so does Buck, frantic looking.
“Dad was right about Musicians.” You bite your bottom lip, realizing your eyes were welling up with tears.
“What happened?” Buck looks you over.
“Amy is in Peter’s lap. She’s touching him, he’s touching her.” You chew the inside of your lip.
“Want to go home?” Nat rubs your arm.
“No.” You brush back the tears. You take a deep breath. “Revenge is sweet.” You shrug, uncapping your bottle and putting it to your lips.
“She was in his lap?” Buck’s brow connects.
“Have a look.” You wave your hand towards the kitchen. “But don’t you go getting between them.” You touch Buck’s chest. He nods, heading for the door, he steps back out a moment later.
“Want me to break him?” Buck looks down at you.
“No, I prefer my revenge, interesting.” You smirk. “But damn Steve looks good tonight.” You smirk taking another long drink from the bottle in your hand. Nat winces, Buck shift uncomfortably. “Or maybe I’ll let Jeremy Jenson make that story true.” You shrug, wandering off.
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“I need another drink.” Buck runs a hand through his hair.
“I might kill Amy.” Nat’s eyes slowly close.
“We might need to find the others.” Buck looks around quickly. “Steve!” He calls finding the blonde standing with Sam, and Wanda. Waving them over, they fill them in before heading for the kitchen.
“Just keep an eye on her, she showed up upset, I can only imagine how she’s feeling now.” Nat warns them as they fills their cups.
“Nat!” Peter calls from the table. Nat freezes, the five of them don’t turn, nobody calls back. “I’ll be back.” He says to someone else. Suddenly next to them. “Any of you heard from Y/N?” He looks around the group.
“Um.” Sam scratches the back of his head, swallowing hard.
“I’m going to do that thing you asked.” Steve looks at Nat, who nods before Steve leaves.
“What’s going on?” Peter looks from one to the other.
“You’re an idiot!” Nat shoves him hard in the shoulder.
“Hey, hey.” Buck pulls her back.
“What the hell Nat?” Peter looks around.
“You know she’s in love with you, why would you risk that?” Wanda swats at him.
“Why am I being attacked?” Peter looks at Sam and Buck.
“Really?” Buck scuffs. “Amy in your lap? Peter, I know you’re stupid, but this is a new low of stupid even for you.” Buck shakes his head.
“She just sat down, she’s Y/N’s friend. It was innocent.” Peter defends himself.
“Yeah, well hope you think the same thing. Cause she’s going to give you a taste of your own medicine.” Sam shrugs.
“What?” Peter’s brows snap up, his mouth comes open.
“She showed up already upset, another fight with her dad. Finding Amy in your lap sent her over the edge.” Nat glares at him.
“Is her fifth almost empty?” Buck moves away from everyone and heads for the front opening of the house where Y/N is drinking from the almost empty fifth in her hand and batting her eyes at a couple football players.
“Oh Christ, Buck she’s going to throw up.” Nat runs after him.
“What the hell is going on?” Peter rushes after them.
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Peter (Reality Blows)
Y/N slipped between a group of people and disappeared farther into the house. Words were exchanged, between Peter and the two guys hitting on Y/N.
“Great now were playing hide and seek with a drunk, angry, revenge seeking Y/N.” Nat shoots Peter a look.
“How was I,” he pauses when they both look at him with the same dirty look
“Okay scratch that, let’s just find her before she does something we both regret, and I can’t beg for forgiveness.” He sighs running his hand through his hair.
Nat had found her dancing in a group of girls, to some bullshit, pop song he knew she hated. But liquor makes Y/N more open to music apparently. Buck sits down on the couch next to Peter, with a loud sigh.
“Nat’s watching her.” He nods.
“Thanks.” Peter nods.
“You’re going to be doing a lot of groveling.” Buck looks over at him.
There is a bustle as Y/N joins a few girls dancing on one of the tables, Nat is hissing at her to get down. Y/N ignores Nat and moves to the song playing. Peter groans, leaning forward, his face in his hands knowing the guys standing around watching the girls were now watching his girlfriend.
“Booooo!!” Someone yells, and he hears Y/N squeal.
“Alright enough Y/N.” Steve lifts her off the table and flips her over his shoulder, Nat following as he takes Y/N out the back.
“Hello Stevie.” She giggles upside down as they past Buck and Peter.
“Crap.” Peter jumps up, Buck follows.
“Stevie.” She slurs.
“Set her down man.” Peter calls rushing around Steve as he sets Y/N on her feet. She sways, Peter’s arm curls around his middle as her legs wobble. He pulls her hair back from her face as she leans forward, hand on the edge of the garden wall, and starts to throw up.
“Aw man.” She groans looking down.
“What?” He leans down.
“I got it on my Beatles shirt.” She mumbles.
“What did you expect when you finished a fifth in close to an hour?” He smirks at her.
“I’m mad at you.” She gives him a dirty look.
“I know. I’m prepared to grovel babe.” He sighs nodding.
“In my car.” She nods. “Shirt.” She squints at him, as if he was thinking something else.
“Keys?” He lets go of her hair and pats her pockets.
Leading her towards her car, putting her in the passenger seat, he gets in behind the wheel. She’s fumbling with a shirt in her bag, he leans over helping her. When she’s in her clean T-shirt he leans back with a sigh.
“Why Amy?” She asks looking out the window.
“I don’t like her. She’s your friend, I was trying to be nice. I didn’t think she would get comfortable.” He rubs a hand over his face.
“My dad thinks I’m going to run off with you.” She sighs, looking defeated.
“Do you want too?” He looks over at her.
“I don’t know what I want.” She shrugs.
“Do you want to break up?” He holds his breath waiting.
“No.” She shakes her head. “I told him I’m not going touring with them. I’m staying here with you.” She looks over at him, sad eyes and ruined make up.
“Than I’ll make it your best summer yet.” He nods, his nose crinkles up. “You smell like vodka.” He chuckles.
“You smell like Amy.” She sasses back with a drunk laugh.
“Crash in my bed?” He smirks.
“Can we just stay there forever?” She runs a hand through her hair.
“Hey.” He reaches over, pulling her chin towards him. “Doesn’t matter if you’re half way around the world in college, you want to run away and hide. Call, come running, show up, I don’t care, I’ll give you an ever standing plane ticket. I’ll be your hide away, no matter what happens down the road.” He leans in kissing her forehead.
“I love you Peter.” She sighs, as he starts her car.
“I love you Y/N. Always have, always will.” He reaches over placing his hand on her thigh.
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Chance Encounters
Based on the prompt “I don’t know who you are but we keep running into each other on the street and getting into screaming arguments over the stupidest things and I’m actually looking forward to our next meeting bc you’re annoying as hell but damn you’re hot and it’s kind of fun to argue with you”
Written for my match for the Captain Swan Spring Fic Formal. Surprise @welllpthisishappening! Laura, I’ve had so much fun interacting with you over the past few weeks- although it’s been hard to make sure I didn’t reveal myself talking to you elsewhere 😂 You’re such a wonderful presence in this fandom and I’m so glad I got to be paired with you. I know you like both friends and enemies to lovers and lots of banter, so I hope you enjoy reading this lil fic as much as I enjoyed writing it <3 
Also thanks @distant-rose and @awkwardnessandbaseball for getting the @csficformal together! It’s been a blast
Also on AO3
It’s certainly not how he expects his Monday morning to start.
It shouldn’t surprise him though, considering the direction his day is already heading in from the moment he wakes up. A power outage in his apartment building the night before causes his alarm clock to reset, meaning he wakes up less than half an hour before he’s supposed to leave for work. He cuts himself shaving thanks to being in a hurry and hopes no one will notice the nick on his chin. He goes to make his regular cup of coffee after getting dressed and realizes he ran out of coffee beans over the weekend and forgot to buy more.
His last resort is leaving everything else he needs to do as is so he has time to stop by the coffee shop on his way to the office. Of course it’s not his biggest priority, but he’s already heard about the workload Regina has waiting for him today and knows he won’t be able to deal with it properly without some kind of caffeine.
Thankfully, the line this morning is short, and he’s able to order his drink and be on his way quickly. But it’s just his luck that his phone vibrates with a text from Liam as he’s turning to head out the door, and he’s reading it when he collides with a wall and spills coffee on the front of his white shirt.
“Damn it!”
Whoops, not a wall. A woman, and a very angry one at that, judging by the expression on her face and the similar coffee stain she now sports on her own grey blouse.
Killian shakes his head as the shock wears off and takes in the death stare he’s receiving from the blonde in front of him. She’s holding a drink in her hand as well, but most of it still seems to be in the cup rather than on their clothes like his. “I’m terribly sorry, love. I should have been paying more attention to what I was doing.”
“Yeah, you should have,” she snaps, pulling a napkin out of her purse and attempting to clean up the mess she’s wearing.
There’s a snarky comment on the tip of his tongue, but he manages to hold back and tries to think of a way to be the bigger person here.
“Love, if there’s anything I can do-”
“The best thing you can do right now is to leave me alone so I can go before I’m later for work than I already am. And I’m not your love.”
Any desire he has to be polite is out the window as the the events of the morning all catch up to him. “With that attitude, I’m bloody glad you aren’t!”
“So am I!” She turns on her heel and leaves the coffee shop before he has a chance to say anything else.
By some stroke of luck, he’s able to make it through the day without any other mishaps.
But he can’t explain why the thought of the annoying blonde from the coffee shop stays in his mind long afterwards.
-/-
It’s Thursday afternoon when Killian runs into her again- not literally this time, thank goodness. He’s on his lunch break, headed to the gym near his office when he sees her leaving the building as he’s walking up. She glances in his direction briefly when she sees him, doing a bit of a double take as she realizes where they’ve seen each other before.
“Afternoon, love.”
She makes a sour face. “I thought we established that I’m not your love,” she reminds him, using her fingers to draw air quotes around the word.
“Sorry, lo- lass,” he corrects himself. “Just a habit I suppose.” He blames it on Liam; their mother made quite the effort to ensure the two of them both had adequate manners, and he’d enforced the same ideals on Killian long after she passed.
But it’s clear by her unwavering expression that she doesn’t buy it. “Whatever.” It’s not unlike her reaction a few days earlier when he’d tried to apologize for the coffee incident.
As much as he wants to ignore her and go about with his day, something keeps him there. He’d be lying to himself if he said it wasn’t at least partly attraction; he hadn’t paid much attention to her in the coffee shop thanks to the circumstances, but now he can’t seem to focus on much besides blonde hair, green eyes, and the black and white outfit she’s clearly just finished a workout in judging by the way it sticks with sweat to her thin frame.
And yet, while he’ll willingly admit to finding her attractive, there’s something else- maybe it’s the attitude she’s developed toward him, or her unwavering stubbornness, he doesn’t know- that keeps him from letting things alone like he normally would. “Do you always act like this when someone tries to apologize or be nice to you?”
Killian watches as her jaw sets and sees he’s struck a cord, although he can’t say whether or not it was unintentional. “Do you always butt into other people’s business?”
“Regardless, it seems yours isn’t worth my time.” She rolls her eyes and walks away from him for the second time.
His annoyance with her is just the motivation he needs for his workout, but like the time before, his thoughts stay occupied with the woman he knows nothing about, aside from the fact that she must be some kind of a force to be reckoned with.
He can’t decide whether she intrigues or irritates him more.
-/-
The next Tuesday is when Killian becomes convinced that the universe hates him.
He’s walking to work, sans coffee after finally replenishing his stock at home, when he catches a familiar glimpse of blonde hair coming out of a store as its owner taps away at her phone. He doesn’t try to get her attention; she’s not exactly his biggest fan as it is, and bothering her for no reason certainly won’t change that.
It doesn’t matter how honorable his intentions are, though, since she notices him when she glances over her shoulder not a moment later. She stops in her tracks and he hears her groan as he’s walking up.
“Are you following me or something? Because I have a gun and-”
Killian holds a hand up to stop her. “Not to worry, lass.” (He’s remembered what not to call her this time.) “Believe it or not, it seems that you and I are yet again the victims of mere coincidence.”
“Seriously? Who talks like that?”
“A person who’s about as thrilled with our recent pattern of encounters as you are.”
“I’m not making you walk beside me to chat, you know! I think you and I both have better things to do.”
“Finally something we can agree on. Now, if you’ll excuse me…”
He wastes no time leaving her behind and getting to work just as fast as he can. He’s annoyed yet again, something he’s convinced will be a common theme whenever he runs into her. But, bloody hell, he still can’t answer the question as to how and why she’s managed to get both under his skin and stuck in his mind so easily.
-/-
Killian goes a week without running into her after their last encounter on the street. He feels relieved considering how things between them are all but guaranteed them to go- or, at least, he thinks he does. It’s Liam that brings it to his attention when they’re at The Rabbit Hole sharing a drink after work.
“Looking for someone, are you?” his brother asks, seeing Killian’s eyes go to the bar’s entrance when the bell above the door chimes. A group of women arrive together, but he quickly loses interest in the redheads and brunettes.
He shakes his head as he takes a drink. “No. What makes you ask?”
Liam doesn’t look convinced. “Every time we’ve been out over the past few weeks, you seem to be waiting for someone else to show up. Not only that, but you’ve been examining every blonde within a mile’s radius, and I’d like to know just why.”
“You’re not going to leave me alone about this, are you?”
“Not a chance in hell.”
“Alright then.” Killian pauses as he tries to figure out how to explain his recent series of meetings to his brother. “To make a long story shorter: there’s this woman-”
“I knew it,” Liam mutters under his breath.
“There’s this woman,” he continues, ignoring him. “I haven’t the slightest idea who she is, but we keep running into each other and always end up having some petty argument before we part ways, only to see each other a few days later and do the same thing all over again.”
“Huh. And just what exactly are you and this lass always arguing over?”
“That’s just it; it’s usually just mindless bickering because I seem to annoy her as much as she does me.”
“Is she pretty?”
“What’s that got to do with anything?”
“Just a question.”
Killian rolls his eyes, but mutters, “Aye. Very much so.”
A moment of silence passes as Liam taps at the side of his glass and processes everything Killian’s just told him. “Well, I wish I could think of something to say to help you out, but all I’ve got is that you’re making this situation much more difficult than it needs to be.”
“How?! It's not like I'm intentionally trying to run into her.”
“No, but it doesn't sound as if you're trying to avoid her, either,” Liam argues. “Just admit it, Killian: you like her.”
“I don't bloody know her well enough to like her!”
“Maybe you should get to know her then. What’s that saying, opposites attract? She could end up surprising you.”
Killian wants nothing more than to argue with his brother and insist his suggestion is ridiculous. But as much as it pains him to admit it, he's up for having another run in with her just to see if there’s a way to make it out without yelling or sarcastic remarks. He doesn't tell Liam all of this, only says, “Maybe I’ll think about it. Maybe.”
He can already tell from the smug look on Liam’s face that he's going to get an I told you so if things turn out in his favor.
-/-
It's only three days later when he thinks maybe the universe doesn't hate him after all.
He's only been at work for a little over an hour, things going relatively well for a Friday morning, when there's a knock on his office doo. He looks up from his seat behind the desk to see his boss in the doorway.
“Regina, something I can do?”
To Killian’s surprise, the brunette actually smiles at him. He can't tell if it's genuine or not, but it's a smile just the same. Those can be far and few between where Regina Mills is concerned.
“Yes. But first, there's someone I'd like for you to meet.” She steps to the side and Killian has to bite his tongue to keep from cursing. “This is Emma Swan. Miss Swan, this is Killian Jones, one of our top family law attorneys.”
Her eyes widen as she recognizes him, but she doesn't say anything other than a quick, “Nice to meet you” and shakes his hand when he stands and offers it to her.
“Killian, Miss Swan is here for Humbert’s Bail Bonds. She’s looking for some information regarding the Lewis case from a few weeks ago; I figured you would be the one she needed to see.”
She's not wrong, the file he'd used to hold the casework from a messy child support ordeal is still in the top drawer of his desk where he'd left it once the trial was over. “Yes, I'm sure I can help with whatever's necessary.”
“Good to know,” Regina answers. “I'm due for a meeting downstairs, so I'll leave you to it.” The blonde- Emma- thanks her as she walks away, leaving the two of them alone in his office.
“So, the Lewis case, eh? I hope that's an incident I don't have to repeat any time soon,” he says, going through the desk drawer and pulling out the file she needs. He gestures for her to sit down as she takes it from him.
“Yeah. I'm the one who tracked the husband down, and my boss apparently needs the rest of the case information to turn over to his boss for one reason or another.” Her eyes scan over the words on the pages before she pulls a small notebook out of her purse and begins to scribble notes on a blank page.
Killian waits for her to say something about their past meetings; some kind of sarcastic remark, at least. But to his surprise, her focus stays on her work for the ten or fifteen minutes she's there, occasionally asking a question or two about his work or making a comment about the weather. Either she wants to avoid a confrontation, or she actually doesn't recognize him. The second option seems unlikely, but still believable.
Emma hands him back the Lewis file once she's collected all the information she needs. “I appreciate your help.”
“It was my pleasure,” he answers, for once remembering not to refer to her as love.
“Oh, and Mr. Jones?” She stops at the door. “It was...surprisingly nice to have a conversation with you without any yelling.”
She's out the door and gone before the “bloody hell” has a chance to leave his lips.
-/-
It doesn’t take long for Killian to think that maybe the universe does in fact hate him after all, because having a name to go with the face only makes it that much harder to get Emma Swan out of his head.
They’re still all but strangers- knowing the other’s name and workplace doesn’t exactly count as having an acquaintance- but he had to admit that he could accept the idea of that changing. Seeing they were capable of having a pleasant conversation has him believing that it’s possible, if only barely so. He toys around with the idea of somehow trying to get more information about her from Regina, but that could likely end with both women angry at him, his boss for using her influence the wrong way and Emma for going out of his way to get to know her.
Things soon take another turn and make him wonder just what kind of ridiculous dream he's stuck in.
Liam talks him into going to his girlfriend’s sister’s birthday party the next Friday night. He doesn't want to go- socializing with a crowd of mostly strangers isn’t something he goes out of his way to do- but he likes Elsa, and Anna seemed like a nice girl from the few times they've met, so he agrees. He and Liam show up at Elsa’s apartment precisely at seven, a bottle of wine tucked under his brother’s arm.
It should be no surprise that Emma’s is the first face he sees after Elsa lets them in.
She’s standing in the hall talking to a brunette with a pixie cut, laughing at something the other woman has said when she notices him and pauses. They’ve gotten so good at this now that she doesn’t have to wonder who he is or where she’s seen him anymore, especially thanks to her office visit. Speaking to her hasn’t always been the greatest idea, but he’s not about to waste the chance if she is indeed warming up to him. He tells Liam he’s going to speak to someone, but she’s standing right in front of him when he turns back around.
“Jones?”
“Yes, it seems we meet again.”
“What are you doing here?” she asks.
“What are you doing here?”
“I asked you first.” He catches a glimpse of her quizzical expression as she takes a sip from the beer bottle she’s holding.
“Elsa is my brother’s girlfriend.”
“You’re Liam’s brother?!”
“You know him, too?”
“I’m pretty sure he’s tried to give me your number more than once.”
“Oh, bloody hell.” He glances over his shoulder at Liam who’s trying- and failing- to pretend he hasn’t been watching them. To think he’d already talked to his brother about her at the bar that night and he’d already known who she was.
“Yeah. But I don’t like it when my family and friends try to set me up with other people, so I thought I’d be nice and return, er, I guess not return the favor.” He can tell she was trying to save him from an unpleasant experience she’s likely had in the past, but it might be her way of letting him know she wouldn’t be interested regardless. He’d be lying if he said it didn’t deflate his confidence a bit. “Er, so how do you know Elsa and Anna?”
“They’re friends with my sister-in-law,” she answers, nodding her head towards the woman she’d been standing with earlier, who smiles when she sees them looking her way.
“Ah. It’s a small world, isn’t it?”
“Yeah, I guess so. Smaller than I thought.”
Killian chooses his next words carefully. “I would offer to get you a drink, but it seems that’s unnecessary,” he gestures to the one she already has.
“Maybe so, but rumor has it Elsa’s got pizza in the kitchen, and I haven’t had dinner yet.” Emma raises an eyebrow, indicating this is his chance and he’d better take advantage of it now.
“Give me five minutes.”
“I like pepperoni!”
-/-
“How long are you giving Liam to finally pop the question?”
“Honestly, love? I’m quite surprised he hasn’t already. Perhaps he’s worried Elsa won’t say yes.”
“Are you kidding? Look at her; she’s as much of a lovesick puppy as he is.”
Killian follows her eyes to where the couple stands outside together on the balcony, completely oblivious to everyone else around them. “Aye. They seem to be quite the good match for each other.”
“They remind me of David and Mary Margaret in that way; I couldn't have picked anyone more suited for either of them.” He senses a bit of disappointment in her words, but she doesn’t elaborate on the subject, and he doesn’t ask.
She’s asking about his job and the law firm when her phone vibrates. “It’s my boss,” she groans after taking a look at the screen. “Give me a sec?” He nods as steps out to answer.
Emma’s back not a minute later, frowning. “Sorry, I have to bail. A skip I’ve been tracking for almost a month was just spotted downtown, and my boss wants me to grab the jerk before he tries to run again.”
“Not a problem, lass,” he tells her, attempting to mask his own disappointment. “I can tell you put a lot of effort into what you do.”
“Yeah, maybe sometimes too much,” she mumbles, getting her purse and jacket from the seat beside him. “I guess I’ll see you around, Killian.”
He smiles as he watches her leave because he knows she’s probably right.
-/-
She’s right.
They cross each other’s paths three times over the next two weeks, twice at the coffee shop where they first unofficially met- with no coffee spilt either time, thankfully- and then at a local carnival that Liam has yet again coerced him into going to. (Killian thinks later that his brother wouldn’t need to go to so much effort to get him to do things if he knew Emma would be there.) Each encounter they’ve had since the party has been much different than the first few; although they both have a dry sense of humor and are too sarcastic for their own good, there has yet to be an instance that involves yelling or has someone convinced they hate the other.
It’s gotten to the point now that he’s begun to think of Emma as more than just a regular acquaintance, but maybe even a friend: He texts her corny jokes when she’s bored during a stakeout and she’s taken to willingly sitting at his table when they show up at the same restaurant for lunch. They haven’t gone as far as to share the more painful details of their pasts, but he’s convinced her background must closely mirror his own somehow based on her demeanor when something along the lines of childhood or family comes up in conversation. She always changes the subject or gives some kind of vague answer and he knows better than to push the subjects any further. It’s evident she’s been through quite a bit in her life and he sees no reason to make her reminisce any more than she already does.
And, yes, he likes her. A lot, if he’s being honest. And it’s just his luck that he realizes it about the same time Liam does.
“Why not ask her out already? The worst thing she can do is say no.”
“That’s what I’m afraid of,” Killian groans. “I can’t complain; I’m lucky we’re even able to be friends considering the way we met.”
“And you’re always going to wonder what could have been if you don’t take that chance.”
Liam’s words stick with him for quite some time afterwards because he knows he’s right. Emma may hate him for going through with this, but he may come to hate himself even more for being a coward.
It’s Monday night when he goes over to Emma’s apartment after leaving the office.
“Hey, Killian,” she greets him when she comes to the door. “What brings you by?”
“Go out with me?”
“What?” The dumbfounded expression on her face makes him regret not thinking this through.
“Sorry, love, it’s just I know we didn’t exactly start off on the right foot, but I’ve found myself becoming more and more fond of you and I was wondering if...oh, bloody hell,” he curses, running a hand through his already unkempt hair. She was definitely going to say no. “You know what, Swan, forget it. I’ll just go.”
“Yes.”
“I’m sorry for botheri- wait, what?” He can’t have heard her correctly.
“Yes.” Emma smiles. “I was hoping you would ask eventually.” She leans forward and presses a kiss to his cheek before turning to go back into her apartment. “Tomorrow night, pick me up at seven. I’ll be waiting.”
Liam yells “I bloody told you so!” when he calls him on the way home. Killian’s too thrilled to care.
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whitewolfofwinterfell · 7 years ago
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“is this a make me choose request? Or do you want me to write a little meta on who I prefer and why?” You choose :)
Aw, thank you. Well I’ll do a meta, because I’m lazy and it takes more time and effort to do a gifset than to write a meta haha. 
When it comes to Ron/Hermione vs Harry/Hermione, it’s not an easy choice for me. Mainly because I love the three of them as best friends and enjoy the friendships within the dynamic more than the romances. But, if I’m being honest about what’s true in my heart, I do have a preference to Harry and Hermione. 
Now, I, like 99% of 90s kids out there in the world adore Harry Potter. I grew up reading it and watching it, it’s part of who I am and I love everything about it. But when it comes to JK Rowling’s choice of ships, I’m not a big fan and disagree with most of her choices in romantic ships. Most of them feel lazy as though she just threw two main characters together because she wanted them to find love and didn’t want to write in a new character specifically for that purpose, but there’s just no genuine connection or potential there. 
When it comes to Ron and Hermione, I don’t think it was lazy per se, but I think it’s a pairing that was forced for the wrong reasons. I think JK thought it would be a huge cliche to have the main hero (Harry) and main heroine (Hermione) fall in love, so instead she decided to be “edgy” and have the main heroine fall in love with the underdog instead. And that’s not me hating on Ron at all, because I love him, it’s just a fact. Harry is the main protagonist and although Ron is a hero in his own right who is just as worthy as Harry, the fact remains that he was the underdog and that’s why he was constantly portrayed as feeling insecure and inferior to Harry. Now, there’s no problem with JK choosing to put Ron and Hermione together instead of Harry and Hermione (I actually think it’s a great idea), but the problem I do have with it is that she still wrote Harry and Hermione to be perfect for each other and Ron and Hermione so wrong for each other. 
What I always had an issue with when it comes to Ron and Hermione is the tension when they first met and their incompatibilities that I just see as being too big to ignore. So with the first, I understand that it’s a typical thing for young kids that have a crush on each other to pick on each other or dislike each other as a way to deny or suppress their real feelings, but I just don’t like it as a trope. I don’t think it’s the right way to start a friendship between two people that are going to be together for the rest of their lives. 
The second is a much bigger issue for me and probably the main reason I’ve never been able to fully get on-board with Ron and Hermione as a couple. They were just so incompatible. I know there’s that old cliche of “opposites attract” but honestly, in my opinion, it’s bullshit. Being different in certain areas and having conflicting personalities is okay, but there are some things that a couple need to be compatible in for the relationship to work. Ron and Hermione were from completely different worlds, they had different motivations, ambitions and ways of thinking. Hermione was very driven by intellectual pursuits, she was ambitious and highly intelligent, but Ron never cared much for academic achievement and was much more homely, traditional and concerned with having a nice family home (much like his own growing up). Now it’s not wrong to be either of these people, but when you put two people together who have such conflicting hopes and dreams for their future, it’s very problematic. Ron was the sort of person that would be intimated by Hermione’s achievements and insecure about her reaching her full potential. Hermione was the sort of person that would be irritated by Ron’s lack of motivation, ambition and his immaturity. On top of this, Hermione and Ron couldn’t communicate for anything and whenever they had a conflict or problem they often took to ignoring or avoiding one another rather than facing it and talking it out (let’s not forget that Ron also did this with Harry in GOF, so it’s clear Ron’s ability to open up was not great). Like honestly, Ron and Hermione living together 24/7, building a life together and being together until they die is ridiculous. They irritated each other constantly throughout the seven books and although it was often played off as being humorous, in reality, it’s a huge red flag for their relationship. It’s normal for couples to bicker and argue, but for Ron and Hermione it would be relentless and never ending and eventually it would lead to the crumbling of their relationship. And as if this wasn’t enough, Ron’s jealousy and inferiority about Hermione and Harry is the perfect example of how their relationship wouldn’t work. If Ron was that jealous about Hermione and his own best friend (who he should trust more than anyone else in the world) how would he have felt to see Hermione develop a friendship with a male colleague? Ron’s own insecurity and jealousy would’ve swallowed him whole and drove Hermione away. 
To put it simply, Ron was not Hermione’s type and Hermione was not Ron’s type. Ron found Hermione snobby, nerdy, arrogant and swotty and Hermione found Ron immature, unintelligent, shallow and simple. Ron just wouldn’t be enough to keep Hermione stimulated and excited and happy, just like Hermione wouldn’t be the sweet housewife and mother he wanted her to be, just like Molly was. 
I have no problem at all with romantic Ron and Hermione in the short term, but in the long term it’s just not right. Ron and Hermione were two characters that developed a very strong and profound friendship, that had a crush on each other that when coupled with their friendship developed into real feelings. It was right for them to act on those feelings and to be together, but it didn’t make any sense for them to marry and have children. In my eyes, it would’ve only been a matter of months (maybe a couple of years) for them to realise they weren’t compatible as a couple and mutually decide to remain friends, just like Joey and Rachel on Friends. 
Now, we move onto Harry and Hermione. How I feel about them is tricky, because I’m not sure I would’ve wanted a romance to happen between them, but at the same time, I just think, “Why not? Why shouldn’t they be together?”, because they were so good together. Unlike Ron, who actually took a disliking to Hermione in the beginning and constantly put her down, Harry was always open to her and saw the good in her. I think Harry got Hermione in ways that Ron didn’t and he accepted her for who she was rather than criticising her. Harry admired and respected Hermione’s intelligence, analytical thinking, organisational approach and out spoken ways. He loved her for it because it was who she was and he never judged her for it. Similarly, where Hermione complained about Ron, she seemed to adore everything about Harry. It sounds awful to say, but I think that Hermione probably saw in Harry some of the things she wished she could have seen in Ron. I don’t know if I just misinterpret how Hermione saw Ron, but I always felt like she thought of him as a foolish child and I just never saw that she really loved or respected him the way she did Harry. And in all the ways that Ron and Hermione are incompitble, Harry and Hermione don’t have that same problem. Whilst Harry may not have been as intelligent as Hermione, he was more so than Ron and he was more able to engage with Hermione in intellectual discussion; Harry was more ambitious and driven like Hermione; he was confident and self-assured in who he was as a person and he was accepting of Hermione’s flaws. Harry and Hermione had an inherent understanding, mutual respect and love for one another that made for a much stronger basis for a romantic relationship than that of Ron and Hermione. They were equals, they were matched and Harry would’ve never felt insecure or inferior next to Hermione, just like Hermione would’ve never felt held back or suppressed by Harry. 
I don’t like to say it because I feel like it’s shitting over Ron if I do, but Harry and Hermione were the hero and heroine of the story, and Ron was the sidekick. The expression, “Three’s a crowd” is true in most contexts. There just wasn’t room for JKR to make Harry, Hermione and Ron equal heroes (though she tried) and it was always obvious to me that it was about Harry and Hermione to an extent. Even as a child I remember questioning why it always seemed to be Harry and Hermione that were left together to save the day (this is particularly more prevalent in the movies) and it’s because they were the hero and heroine. 
JKR herself even admitted that Harry and Hermione should’ve ended up together. I know there’s been so much debate amongst the fandom about exactly what she meant about what she said and how Harry/Hermione shippers twisted her words, but it’s so clear that she regrets choosing to keep Ron and Hermione together. And the reason for that is because she did it solely because  she didn’t want to go with the obvious ending of having Harry and Hermione together. But that begs the question, if it was so obvious to readers that Harry and Hermione should have ended up together isn’t that just proof that their relationship was better developed and that they were perfect for one another? 
In the end, I’m a strong believer that neither Harry/Hermione nor Ron/Hermione should’ve developed into a romance (although if I had to choose, I’d choose Harry/Hermione). I feel like it’s such a common and overused trope for best friends to end up together and a lot of the time it’s just laziness on the writer’s part, because they can’t be bothered to create a new character or develop a recurring character to be the love interest of a main character. So instead, they just put the main characters with each other instead. As I mentioned at the start of this, I feel like that’s what JKR did with pretty much all of her endgame ships and it’s why I’m not a huge fan of any of them and prefer the friendships. 
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meggannn · 8 years ago
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andromeda review
I finished the game Monday night so I’ve had a few days to think over my feelings. No major plot spoilers in this post but putting behind a cut anyway.
I want to rip the bandaid off, so I’ll get the bad news out of the way first.
THE BAD
It’s clear what influence Frostbite -- and by extension EA -- has had on Andromeda, and it’s not always good. It’s a big world, which was kind of what they signed on for by setting the stage in a new galaxy: if it wasn’t big, people would complain we never got to “really see” Andromeda. So they made it big and pushed the exploration thing. It’s not as big as Inquisition, thank god, with not nearly so many pointless fetch quests, but there are still enough sidequests to deter the average player and don’t really move the plot further. I’m actually the kind of dedicated idiot who actually doesn’t mind collecting pointless shit across seventeen maps if it actually gives me more information about the lore or characters, but when it just comes with XP and a check mark, it irritates the living heck out of me. Andromeda has a fair amount of both types.
In the long run, this is a very minor complaint, more about what Bioware doesn’t put in the game than what they do, but I was let down in the lack of… creativity? In the new Andromeda species. After finishing the game however, for plot reasons, I can see why there are several reasons why they would keep the bipedal humanoid alien design, but it’s still a little disappointing. Lore-wise, I think traveling to a new galaxy would be the perfect stage to design more mind-bending aliens like the Leviathans or rachni (the Reapers controlled the direction organic life evolved in the Milky Way, but not Andromeda, right?). Aliens with different types of societies! Aliens that are bigger or smaller in scale than us! Aliens that have different ideas of the word ‘intelligence’! And we got only two sentient species, one of which actually has some form of settled home in Andromeda, the other of which we try to slaughter when we’re within fifty meters of each other.
For people who have played the original trilogy, it becomes kind of obvious they’re retreading familiar ground, and sometimes it gets predictable. Not just with their themes -- which I expect -- but their plot twists. I’ll avoid spoiling too much. There are also moments it feels as though they’re trying to ‘top’ the trauma Shepard went through in the original series by putting Ryder through worse, so much so that when Ryder’s in serious danger it feels a bit like they’re crying wolf. They somehow managed to do this without making Ryder feel like ‘the new Shepard’ -- which is a good thing -- but still, it’s a bit odd and disconnecting. It’s like you can see the talks at the tables when the creative director said “and then we’ll do THIS” and nobody considered if it was, um, logical.
With the writing, there was occasionally a lot of -- for lack of a better phrase -- telling and not showing, or in some other cases, stretching the limits of lore believability just to create conflict for the player to fight. I tend to hate when people use “show don’t tell” as a criticism because I think they’re usually overlooking something, but this is a common theme with BW games and in Andromeda it happens pretty consistently. We are constantly told that the angara are always “free” with their feelings and rarely if ever hide their emotions from the world, yet aside from Jaal’s consistent emotional vulnerability (who I thought was great btw), angara mostly tend to speak and talk and walk exactly like us. Having a conversation with an angaran NPC felt exactly like an asari or human NPC, except, you know, in how they looked.
((MILD PLOT SPOILERS: If you’ve reached Aya you’re probably fine to read)) I’m obviously relieved Bioware didn’t go in the colonization direction -- something I didn’t want to have to worry about the first place -- but instead there’s an undeniable white savior (or “human savior”) theme instead. (It became especially prominent later in the game.) This is difficult to document exactly because it’s not as explicit as other classic examples -- in MEA, Jaal has a large presence and is actively involved in protecting and saving his people; the Initiative/Ryder has to work their ass off to prove their intentions are peaceful and even then the angara are portrayed to rightfully still be skeptical -- but at the end of the day, the angara are a POC coded culture and ~only a stranger can save them~. The angara have also become Mass Effect’s elven equivalent from Dragon Age, in terms of how much and how often the story throws them into the mud. At least unlike the elves, they don’t argue that it’s the angara’s fault, but after a while it feels like slow and cruel torture of a native species that’s already been through hell.
The Chosen One narrative is how Bioware operates, I get it. But I’m getting tired of people treating the Pathfinder/Inquisitor like a hero-in-the-making before they have the chance to prove they’re even a person. (Sorry to keep bringing DA2 up, but this is why I liked Hawke so much -- you worked to Championship from the ground up, and everyone knew it.) What is so freaking special about the symbol of Pathfinders that makes everyone flock to you when you first step onto the Nexus? Did the Initiative really pin all their hopes on scouting landscapes and settling colonies in hostile or extreme environments on the shoulders of four people?
The disappointing LGBT romances are already well-documented, but I have to give a particular call-out to how they handled the only mlm’s storyline, because it was terrible. (It’s honestly astounding how it passed the desks of multiple people and nobody thought to say hey, maybe this is offensive?)
After watching Jaal’s romance… I’m still not convinced aliens should ever be straight in any circumstance, but I don’t think just a patch would solve this one -- I think Jaal’s romance employs a lot of you’re-the-girl-of-my-dreams tropes that were meant to specifically appeal to women, so swapping Sara for Scott in this case might feel lazy or contrived. Liam’s romance, though -- which I LOVED and I highly recommend people watch if they have a few minutes on Youtube -- is completely free of any sort of gender stereotypical tropes and would work just as well with any Ryder.
Okay now onto the good stuff, which was fortunately most of it.
THE GOOD
Despite all of the above, I really, genuinely, enjoyed this game and think both old and new Mass Effect players would enjoy it. There are some growing pains -- Ryder asks a few dumb questions for exposition that most ME fans know by heart and other times an NPC comments on this or that lore reference that new people wouldn’t understand in the slightest, but it doesn’t ruin the experience. I finished at around 75 hours and 97% completion with most of the remaining activities the ‘no lore included’ fetch quests I was complaining about earlier. And despite my whining about the sidequests, I actually did genuinely like them, for the most part. They gave me more information about each of the worlds and how people live there, often because the same people would give me multiple quests, or reference each other, so the locations felt like real places that people lived in.
The companions and their relationships -- including romances -- are really good. Like, not to call it leagues better than Inquisition, because Inquisition had great companions, but unlike the Inquisitor I actually felt like Ryder had a place on the ship. I knew what their job was, sure, but I also know who they were when they interacted with people, even allowing for the freedom of player choice. The Initiative isn’t military, and neither is your ship, though plenty of the squad have professional firearms and crisis training, which is a great shift from Shepard and the Normandy -- it comes with more casual banter, but it also has its downsides, because there will be fights on your ship between people, because many of them are not professionals, just highly skilled expertises, and they aren’t used to working with others. It sucks because you have to mediate the arguments, but it’s also realistic.
The animation is fine, and yeah the CC sucks and I wish it were better, but it’s hardly the end of the world. Mass Effect always did better with aliens than it did with humans, so it’s hardly a surprise, and personally I think if people are going to throw a fit over their PC not having the right kind of eyebrows or a glitch where a character holds a gun backwards that happens once in a 70+ hour game, and that ruins the entire experience for them… they might want to pick another hobby.
I’ve seen people complaining that the writing is shit, and it’s true that occasionally I’ll hear a cheesy line and think a fifteen year old could’ve done better, but the largest majority of the time, I wonder what those complaints were smoking. The writing is great. I feel like these are all real people -- and I especially feel Ryder is a real person, a real sister/brother, a real twenty-something thrown into a million problems they’re unequipped to handle.
I was surprised to actually be… impressed by the way they handle angaran relations. The white savior thing is still true and will always be true, but I appreciate that Ryder has to work their ass off to prove they’re trustworthy, and even then, the angara that still openly distrust aliens aren’t wrong for it, and Ryder has to respect that or risk their respect. They’re wary, and they have every right to be, and the story doesn’t punish them for it. (Even the Roekaar are slightly sympathetic in a way, because a majority of them are fighting because they’re scared.)
Open world games are usually something I dread, but I didn’t mind the open landscapes for the most part, because the Mako -- I mean Nomad -- gets you around pretty fast, you’ve got banter to listen to in the meantime, and the upgrades really helped whenever the terrain became challenging. Don’t get me wrong, sometimes it’s really too much, but for the most part, I honestly didn’t mind, and I was surprised I didn’t.
The journal prioritization system reminds me of DA2 in a good way; compared to previous ME games, and even Inquisition, MEA makes it a lot easier to tell which quests are worth doing/plot relevant, and which would just amount to my dicking around in the wilderness for XP or loot.
The combat is excellent -- not to rag on the original series’ system because there wasn’t anything particularly wrong with it, but I can definitely see major improvements in creativity and flexibility. It’s fluid, much more mobile, and the jumpjets let you get so much more creative. Letting people mix and match powers is a little far-fetched, but you can handwave a lot of with SAM’s profile implant, so I don’t really mind. The only irritating thing is that you’re limited to three powers at once, but since you have about a million powers available to you in the first place and can equip four favorite profiles at once, it seems a fair trade. (I’ve found a way around this anyway -- instead of bringing up the HUD and going to favorites, if you pause the game in the middle of combat, you can fool around with your skills AND change profiles and resume combat with no cooldown.)
It felt like ME1 in all of the best ways. Like I mentioned above, it’s true they’re sort of treading familiar ground in their themes and plot twists, but there were certain parts of the final mission in particular were most definitely purposeful references to/love letters to the original trilogy. It makes it feel like the start of a new journey; I told a friend when I finished that I felt exactly like I had when I finished ME1 for the first time, excited and scared and pumped to start playing sequel.
My overall experience was a great one; I’m planning on starting my second playthrough as soon as I can, probably tomorrow. It was familiar to old fans who loved ME1 for its newness and strangeness, it’s friendly to new players, and I think it’ll be remembered strongly in the future if it is the beginning of a new series like I expect it to be. (LBR, if it isn’t “part one” of a new story...... it makes no sense. It’s practically screaming for more.)
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