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Adam Brody and Kristen Bell went from friends to (fictional) lovers in ‘Nobody Wants This’

Kristen Bell and Adam Brody, stars of Netflix’s “Nobody Wants This,” at Mirate in East Los Angeles. “I thought it was such a thoughtful, fresh, edgy take on a rom-com,” Bell says. “I loved the fact that we weren’t 22.”

(David Fouts / For The Times)

By Yvonne Villarreal Senior Television Writer

Sept. 26, 2024 3 AM PT

Kristen Bell and Adam Brody are lounging in a dining booth of a restaurant, nearly swallowed up by an array of oversized pillows, contemplating the premise for a potential podcast they could co-host.

“What do we talk about?” Bell says, cocking her head and narrowing her eyes at her friend and co-star.

Then it clicks.

“We talk about TV shows and movies,” they both say nearly in unison.

“But we disagree a lot,” Bell says.

“We do,” Brody chimes in. “In general, I don’t like stuff and she likes stuff.”

“Yes, that would be what it would be called: ‘Adam doesn’t like it, Kristen does,’” she declares. “But I respect him enough and I know his intelligence level enough that I’m always trying to be like, ‘Why? But why do you think that?’ And then he’ll turn me on to an alternate point of view that I didn’t think about.”

“What else do we talk about?” Bell continues.

He considers the question for a moment: “I was gonna say parenting, sharing things we do with our kids. Like, ‘This is a good book for your kids ...’”

Co-hosting a podcast is not in their future — though, it would be an apt promotional tool for their new series. Two decades after the actors rose to fame in the early aughts on teen dramas “The O.C.” (Brody) and “Veronica Mars” (Bell), they’re giving millennials all the feels by teaming up for “Nobody Wants This,” the romantic comedy about the unlikely relationship that develops between a candid lifestyle podcast host and a rabbi.

In the series, now streaming on Netflix, Bell is Joanne, a woman who often regales about her single life on the podcast she co-hosts with her sister, Morgan (Justine Lupe). Meanwhile, Brody’s Noah is a progressive rabbi who is newly single. Together, on L.A.’s east side, they navigate a complex but passionate relationship that confronts a number of obstacles, including their careers considerations, family and religion.

The series was created by Erin Foster, who previously acted on shows like “The O.C.” and “NCIS: Los Angeles” and is currently the co-host of “The World’s First Podcast” with her sister Sara; it’s loosely inspired by her real-life conversion to Judaism after meeting her husband, music executive Simon Tikhman. Foster originally wrote the pilot with the intention of playing the lead role herself, but in the four years that lapsed between selling the idea to 20th Television, which produced it, and the show getting bought by Netflix, which distributes it, things shifted in the television marketplace and in Foster’s personal life.

“I was knocking on the door of 40, and I was not desperate to be acting in something,” says Foster, who gave birth to her first child earlier this year. She says Netflix loved the script and that they thought it could be a big show, but with someone else in the starring role — Bell.

“It was honestly a really easy decision for me,” she says about relinquishing the role. “I don’t have ambitions to be the world’s biggest actress.”

Plus, chemistry can’t be planned. For Foster, making sure the central couple had some was important, as well as a shared sense of humor. Bell and Brody delivered.

“I think that a sense of humor is such a big connector that we forget about in dating — he’s in on the joke, or he’s not in on the joke,” Foster says. “If I’m gonna write a character who has a sense of humor and doesn’t take herself too seriously and has a funny, sarcastic point of view, I really wanted to find a guy who is sensible and responsible and sweet and charming and kind, but also makes her laugh. I think that’s the sexiest quality of the person.”

Kristen Bell as Joanne, left, and Adam Brody as Noah in an episode of “Nobody Wants This.”

(Stefania Rosini / Netflix)

You both have worked together before — on things like “House of Lies” and “Scream 4”— but what was it like to come together for a project like this?

Brody: We came as equals this time, not that there’s a power thing, exactly. But the first time we worked together, it was a movie that I was the lead of that she came in for a few days. Then I did her show, [and] I came in for a few days. This time, just even the conception of it, we just came in as real partners.

Bell: I will say, I read it first — not to take credit for instigating the partnership, that’s not what I’m doing.

Brody: It’s credit deserved.

Bell: The facts are: I read this, I thought it was such a thoughtful, fresh, edgy take on a rom-com. I loved the fact that we weren’t 22. It felt very real. The second I read it, I was like, “Well, this is Brody, of course.” In the very first meetings, I was like, “OK, yeah, I’d love to do this. And, also, Adam Brody is the guy.” Thankfully, they all agreed.

So much of what makes a rom-com compelling is the chemistry, and that’s such a hard thing to capture or generate. Do you think your history or that familiarity helped?

Brody: You get incredibly familiar with someone on set within a few hours; if I sit here with you for three more hours, we’re going to know each other pretty well and be comfortable. It’s not like something that can’t be acquired, but I do think having worked together before, knowing that we got along, knowing that we work well together — you know there’s a high floor, if that’s the phrase. You’re starting from a good place. How high you can go, is still an open question.

Bell: You can attribute it to lightning in a bottle, if you want. From my perspective as a performer, I am keenly aware of other performers’ lanes — when they’re fighting to play a character, and when they’re just belonging in that body. I feel like I know Adam’s zones, and I feel like that’s because I have watched a lot of stuff he’s been in. I’m a big fan of his work. My husband [Dax Shepard] has cast him in movies we’ve done before that he’s directed, and I’ve worked with him a few times, so I knew when I read the script, this had to be a person who led with charm and intelligence and vulnerability, and I just know he has those modes very easily; simultaneously, as a rom-com, and particularly this one that so often leans into just the eye contact and no dialogue, I know he has a mode where he can just stare deeply into somebody’s eyes [reporter’s note: as Bell says this, Brody blows a raspberry] for an uncomfortable amount of time. I also have that mode. It’s just a trick in the magician’s bag. Some actors can do it, and some actors can’t, in my opinion. I was like, ‘Well, I know I can do it. I know Adam can do it. We can fill all the space.’”

Brody: I guess it’s another way of describing a romantic leading man, I suppose. And yeah, I feel comfortable in that space with myself.

Bell: You can look with longing, Adam. You want to stay with it and you don’t even need to hear him say anything. Plus knowing he’s easy to work with and fun on set was also a huge contributing factor that I’m sure no one’s gonna find interesting when they’re reading about this project, but it is though.

Brody: Oh, no. We’re selling them on the friendship. Let me piggyback onto that with a slightly different thing, but equally as pragmatic: I’ve been a fan of Kristen’s for a very long time. I think she’s a flawless comedian and actor all around. I still can see you in modes I haven’t even seen you in yet, but I know you know you can do it and I can picture it, because I think you’re tonally very, very versatile.

This is loosely based on Erin’s personal experience, and she initially wrote the pilot with the intention of playing Joanne. Kristen, what were those conversations like about you taking over the role?

Bell: Very honest because I had heard that. I had a meeting with her and I said, “I want to be involved with this, but I also want to discuss the fact that you wrote this for yourself. Also know that if you want to do it for yourself, I will step aside and not be here.”

She was very honest and said her first experience with writing this was writing it for herself but then slowly realized that there were other things she wanted to do in the same time frame, which was have a baby. She said, “No, I actually think it’s not my path right now.” So then it felt like it was all aired out.

Kristen Bell and Adam Brody star in the Netflix rom-com “Nobody Wants This.” For creator Erin Foster, making sure the central couple had a shared sense of humor was pivotal.

(David Fouts / For The Times)

Adam, Noah is a rabbi, but it’s not this traditional portrayal. You’ve talked about how you’ve been bar mitzvahed, but you’re not super observant. Did you have trepidation about playing a rabbi?

Brody: I did. I initially winced at the religiosity of it. But I came around to being excited by that aspect and going, “Well, that’s the different part than me, and that’s what will be fun stuff to research and explore and commit to and play.”

Bell: And he did. Every time I would come up to him, he would be listening to some Jewish podcast, or reading some very Jewish book, really putting in the work. And I put in about zero work. I was like, I’m going to show up, that’s what I’ll do. But Adam was impressive.

Brody: It’s important because here’s a person who’s a scholar of something, and I should at least have a passive, light understanding of it. I’ve inherited some things through osmosis but, by and large, I didn’t know the first thing about Judaism — even having been bar mitzvahed, having played Jewish characters before. It was important because I could speak with some authority on it, both in the character and even outside of the character, as someone who’s going to play a community leader of a specific creed and race. It did unlock a much deeper knowledge and appreciation for the history of a people and a culture.

We’ve seen fans of movies like “Anyone But You” or TV shows like “Bridgerton” speculate online or ship a real-life romance between the actors, not just the characters they play. What does that feel like to you, as married people, with a highly anticipated romantic comedy coming up?

Bell: You said “ship,” is that what the kids say? That’s understandable. It’s not realistic, but it’s understandable.

Brody: I think if anyone’s shipping us, as the kids say, they’re shipping our friendship. But no one wants to see broken homes. Those people are all younger, that’s understandable.

Bell: They don’t know the consequences of that ...

Brody: I think as we get a little older, people are just happy to know your friends.

Bell: I get it because I remember watching things and being like, “Oh, God, those two people being in love feels so good to me.” But I don’t know that I ever thought about actors offscreen having that dynamic, but now with social media, and just content about everyone being everywhere, there’s a larger perspective of voyeurism that is allowed to happen. Is that healthy? I don’t know. Is it happening? Yeah.

Kristen Bell and Adam Brody have a lot of chemistry in “Nobody Wants This,” but the romance stays onscreen. “I think if anyone’s shipping us, as the kids say, they’re shipping our friendship,” Brody says.

(Adam Rose/Netflix)

Joanne co-hosts a podcast with her sister. And Noah brings up his reservations about that and this idea of sharing too much — though, he does come to find it useful when he applies it to his work. You both have been guests on countless podcasts. And, Kristen, your husband has ”Armchair Expert.” Does this idea of sharing too much feel like a familiar conversation for either of you?

Bell: I think you know the answer to this question is that I’ve never asked myself that question.

Brody: There’s never been a moment where you’re like, “F— wish he didn’t share that?”

Bell: I don’t think so. First of all, the reason that interviews with people that are very close are interesting is because it is a level of eavesdropping. There is a level of, maybe I shouldn’t be hearing this happening. And that’s exciting. I tend to be an oversharer, as does my husband. I’m sure there was a formal discussion at some point — I have a terrible memory — about being in the public eye as a couple alongside him starting a podcast and deciding that a greater good was going to come out of being open and honest and vulnerable, even about things that are embarrassing. I’m a firm believer that everyone deserves to be loved and everyone deserves to be embarrassed. I think we’re happier and healthier because of it.

This is a show about two people finding each other at a more mature stage in life. When you watch shows like “Love is Blind” or “The Bachelor,” it’s often people in their 20s and you’re like, ‘You’re not ready for this yet!”

Bell: Like when a 22-year-old is crying that it’s their last chance at love? We did have a lot of these discussions about how old [our characters] are. We still don’t know their ages — mid 30s, late 30s, early 40s.

Brody: I think what makes it feel that way a little bit too, besides that we have jobs, is that we get together pretty quickly, we’re together, and then we’re like, “How does this work?” Versus the will they or won’t they attempt anything forever or it’s a one-night stand and so and so overheard this and there’s a misunderstanding.

[To Bell] I’m just going to keep eating your fries as you answer because they’re so f— good.

Bell: It’s not about our status to one another or in our group of friends, which I find a lot of younger love stories tend to be about. It’s about what could we mean to each other going forward, which is innately a very adult question.

L.A. is very much a part of the show. You’re shooting in Los Feliz, you’re shooting in Eagle Rock. Does any experience stand out?

Brody: What I loved about it was, it’s all on location, there’s no stages, which can’t help but make things feel lived in. I always prefer that, even if it can be more logistically challenging. That said, we’re mostly sitting down in restaurants or in somebody’s house. What was somewhat surreal to me was walking down Vermont Avenue for the kiss scene. Just having spent so much of my 20s on that street, so now to be on it thinking, “If you knew you’d be back here filming a series and doing a walk and talk down the street of your youth”— that was a surreal moment that was cool.

Bell: There was a man who wanted to be very involved in the scene. He was very vocal during the takes.

Brody: There was also like a paparazzi there, which is weird. It’s weird how you can have a bunch of bystanders, a hundred people you’re working with, three cameras and are totally comfortable, then one guy’s like taking out their lens and you’re like [mimics an eyeroll].

Much of “Nobody Wants This” was shot on location around East Los Angeles: “... there’s no stages, which can’t help but make things feel lived in,” Brody says.

(David Fouts / For The Times)

With that kiss scene, or the meet cute between Noah and Joanne, were those moments that you felt like pressure to get right. How did you approach them?

Brody: I did feel pressure to get that wine bottle open. That’s really me not being able to do that.

Bell: Talk about lightning in a bottle. He was supposed to have been able to open it, flawlessly. He could not do it.

Brody: Most of the pilot is just trying to open the wine.

Bell: In the original cut, we fought for, like, a six-minute version of that scene, just watching him struggle with the bottle. I was adamant that it should stay in because I was like, “This is something you just don’t get” — he’s genuinely struggling and I’m genuinely laughing at him, but it’s also so adorable. We did have to cut it down.

Brody: My first scene was that scene before the kiss where we’re in a restaurant on Vermont and called you to dinner as friends. If anything, that’s the only scene I felt the pressure because it’s the first day and you’re like, “Lemme put this on film and see if it flies.” I would say maybe figuring out the ending couple of scenes had some weight to it.

RomComs tend to end on a “happily ever after” note. The final episode concludes with a sweeping kiss, but we know there are still barriers or roadblocks that need to be navigated — which could be explored in another season. Is that the hope?

Bell: I think it’s interesting and thoughtful and realistic to end it on a note that you’re unsure of, or maybe you’re sure that they want it, but still unsure if the world does. I think that’s what relationships feel like. That’s not to say I don’t feel great when a movie is tied up with a nice, big bow, and I’m finished watching it and I go, “Oh, thank goodness. Two hours of escaping the monsters of the real world and getting sucked into the story.” But I kind of liked that it was much more realistic. It was nerve-racking, I would say that. I was unsure if we should be ending it like that, or if we should do what people are told to do in a script or series, which is tie it up, tie up all the loose ends.

Brody: Well, this is a show. That’s your difference. As a couple, and how are they going to navigate something being the question for a heart of a show, it’s got to be somewhat open-ended as life is.

What’s the last great rom-com you saw? Adam, you can disagree with Kristen.

Bell: He will, don’t worry.

Brody: I’m thinking. What do you got? I can have thoughts on that,

Bell: Oh, oh, oh, 100% “Colin from Accounts.” Have you seen it?

Brody: No. That’s a rom-com? This was a topic on set: “Watch ‘Colin from Accounts.’”

Bell: Patrick Brammall and Harriet Dyer are real-life husband and wife. They are from Australia or New Zealand, I think Australia. They are comedians. They wrote it. It is a true romantic comedy. It’s so funny and so heartwarming. It is one of the best shows I’ve seen in the last five years.

Brody: [laughs] Nothing is coming to mind.

Bell: Remember what you said to me the other day?

Brody: What?

Bell: “The Apartment.”

Brody: Yeah, you can’t beat that one. I think it was adult. I think it had dramatic qualities I really liked. It has a really somberness to it, even though it’s as funny as it is. You know who I thought really had a good thing going? It’s been a minute, and I don’t know how it’s all aged, but especially in his heyday, I was a big Nick Hornby fan. He was really special. Not just “High Fidelity,” but in general, he was a big music fan and so brought that into [his work] a lot. But most of the classic romantic comedies, I haven’t revisited.

#adam brody #kristen bell #nobody wants this #interview #los angeles times

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sevensoulmates · 9 months ago

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i absolutely agree if buck is confirmed bi theres no way buddie isnt happening like

I could honestly go on and on about this. There's another member of this fandom who explained it best here: https://www.tumblr.com/letmetellyouaboutmyfeels/743267900380659712/if-buck-or-eddie-is-going-to-be-revealed-as?source=share

To summarize, it really would be like the creators dangling the ONE thing they know a massive part of their audience wants more than ANYTHING, and being like hahaha! You only get half of what you want! It would honestly be plain cruelty at that point. And even though I sometimes might not vibe with some of the choices made on this show, I truly do not believe the writers (yes, even Tim and Kristen) are purposely cruel.

Making Buck bi after 6 seasons of exclusive heterosexuality is a pointed and weighted choice. Not just from a narrative perspective but also for the new network's return on investment. M/M media is lucrative right now, yes, but as we've seen in the news over the last five years, bigots are still alive and well and unfortunately hold some of the most powerful positions in TV-land as well. To make Buck bi and explicitly with a man would not be something they can just take back. Once it's in the audience's minds, it will affect their decision to continue watching or drop the show (shout out that homophobic man-kisser IG commenter!) ABC is investing a FUCK-ton of money in promoting and creating 911 right now, and if they make Buck bi that says to me that they believe this choice is worth investing in. And if they believe queer Buck (their "Young Hot White Man Fan Favorite") is a choice worth investing in, why wouldn't they also believe that canon buddie is worth investing in? It's just one hop, skip, and a jump away.

So yes, if Buck is confirmed bi/queer, I will never ever ever ever be convinced that Buck and Eddie won't end up together. Even if something crazy unlikely happens like Eddie and Marisol have a full-on graphic sex scene, or Eddie gets another woman pregnant, or Buck marries Tommy and they raise the sperm donor baby together or some other insane thing happens, I will NEVER not be convinced that Buck and Eddie will be together by the time that last series finale episode airs. Sorry.

#911 abc #buddie #speculation #that last part was to say that REASONABLE conflict between buddie BEFORE they get together can and should be expected #there will never not be conflict guys #BUT if Buck is canon bi then yes I'm sincerely serious buddie will happen at some point whether that's in season 8 or 18 #I've been yapping SO much today

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misty-caligula · 2 years ago

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I like season 2. I think that it’s a very well put together, well paced, well acted story. I know that I’m not necessarily agreed with on this by everybody, but I want to just say a thing about that.

The modern media machine is brutal and messy. The many cast and crew members that work on any given project are remarkably limited in their individual power, regardless of how high their positions are within the system, they’re all expendable, all just... employees, able to be swapped out if they step out of line according to the corporate interest. They sign contracts that limit their ability to speak openly to us about the realities on the ground, and beyond that they have to acknowledge their own careers in a VERY insular, rumor-heavy community, where being marked as “difficult” destroys you.

I know that a portion of the fandom is unhappy with the pacing in S2. Feels that certain story lines are not given enough time. Kristen felt like she popped out of nowhere. Some folk feel that the adult timeline is too heavily pushed. That the original hunt wasn’t talked about enough. That it’s all just a bit... messy. And I can see how you get there. It’s not been enough to bother me, watching it, but I see how you get there.

I think that I am part of a lucky group, because I find almost all of the characters, in both the teen and adult timelines, equally interesting. But I imagine that if you’re PRIMARILY here for the teens or certain characters it must be very frustrating when your favorites seem AWOL.

But what I do not get is how people go from that to “The writers have no idea what they’re doing, they LIED to us about having a plan, they’re all incompetent, they don’t know what they’re doing.”

Firstly, the writers make the blueprint, sure, but it needs to then be built, filmed, put together, directed, you need to get hours and hours and hours and hours of footage and then edit it all together. We have no IDEA what’s left behind. What was in the script that got dumped for time. Or for the sake of pacing. Or because it was too expensive. Or because of... who knows. We don’t know what we don’t know. The writers do not magically create their ideal version of the show, they only make path for others to follow.

I mean consider you’re an editor and you have 3 different versions of the same line from the same actor, and you have to use the one that most accurately gives a certain energy. One is 2 seconds longer, but clearly the best. You now have to shave 2 seconds off SOMETHING else. Extrapolate that out to 10 hours’ runtime, make sure you never miss anything, and keep the pacing going.

Which leads me onto my big ... Thing. Season 2 only has 9 episodes. Some people in the fandom are really amazing at finding behind the scenes sources on what’s happening, but I cannot find a single word on the reasoning behind cutting back this season. I thus cannot say conclusively that an episode was stolen from the show, that it wasn’t originally planned to be 9 episodes long. But it seems odd. And, IF it WAS meant to be 10 episodes, I can reason out the consequences.

1 episode is 60 minutes. So if you were a writer and you assumed, when you were making the overall outline pre- season 1 that you’d get 10 eps per season, you’d create certain overarching threads. Then you’d sit down to write S2. At what point do you find out that the decision’s been made and you’re an episode short? At the start? Half way? Assume you have 600 minutes of story. Now you have to fit it into 540 minutes. That’s a lot of slices.

Look at what you’ve got. What conversations don’t strictly HAVE to be had? What character development doesn’t HAVE to be done? How much can you rely on what you put into s1, and how much can you rely on the intelligence of your audience, that you can use vibes and the strength of correlating scenes to imply things you WERE going to explicitly state?

I mean... I think about the first hunt. I think about why it’s got so little build up, because ... sure I buy what you’re saying. It’s a bit fast. It FEELS a little like they shot some stuff, or wrote some stuff, that’s missing. Right? So why is it like that?

Well, imagine a hypothetical 10 ep season.

S2E7 Shauna beats down Lottie.

S2E8 Misty takes care of her. The rest of the teens struggle without her. More hallucinations, more issues, not having her is a real problem, and it’s made VERY clear that she’s been the glue that holds them together. Without her they’re falling apart. Van, for example has a reconstruction of her faith, realising that the reality of facing a world where Lott might die is worse than she had thought in the abstract. The last scene of S2E8 Lottie says “If I die, eat me.”

S2E9 Some stuff happens where it’s clear they NEED her. They notice Coach has vanished. Some more stuff about how bad they’re starving, they need food, it’s all they can think about. Then, 1/3rd the way thru, Misty says “Lottie’s dying, she said we should eat her if she does.” They say “No way, we should save her.” They spend 1/3rd of the episode talking it through. Van takes the place as the high priestess of Lottie, Tai’s converted fast, Mari agrees, Misty follows because she’s Misty. They slowly convince the others via calls to needing Lottie OR needing food. Nat holds out til the end, but is eventually persuaded because she realises either she joins in or they’ll just kill her as an outsider. They come to an uneasy peace with the idea, kind of. Last 1/3rd of the episode is the first hunt.

MEANWHILE S2E8 adult world is stuff with Adam, Jeff, Walter, who knows what, maybe more therapy stuff. I feel like a lot of Walter stuff probably got cut, he’s easy to cut stuff from. The women get deeper into the wilderness cult, it’s more clear how far they’re losing their grip, how much they’re buying into Lottie’s new wilderness. End of S2E8, Jeff gives the call about Adam’s body.

S2E9 is the adults sitting around the table. At the end of S2E9 Lottie suggests the poison, with the context of the teens talking about the hunt taking place behind it. Then we have the teens deciding that yes they should do the hunt, and watching it go the way it does. We have more context about WHY the teens decided to do the hunt (it’s not context we do not have now, in the vibes, but it’s more explicit) and we see more why it’s a convincing argument for them when Lottie says it in the adult timeline.

S2E10 probably plays out the same way that S2E9 will in real life.

That is WAY smoother. But that would also make sense as to why it is the way it is right now. Because people are like “Why is the hunt happening NOW?” and honestly? I think it’s because they HAVE to have it now so that S2E9 makes sense for the adults. So that Lott can bring out her kool aid and not have it come out of nowhere. They NEEDED to juxtapose the hunt and the kool aid together, and the hunt always had to happen off- set just slightly to give that context.

This is just a theory. I can’t PROVE that they lost an episode. But I will say this, that making a big project like this is the work of many many hands, and I have faith in the intentions of the creatives involved. I don’t think that people are trying to lie to us, to pretend like there’s all these cool ideas when there aren’t. I think that modern capitalism is a nightmare for making art, and that they’re doing the best in the framework they’re given. I think that Yellowjackets is a fantastic sculpture, and it’s reasonable to say it has its rough edges, as long as we’re acknowledging that literally everything does.

I, for one, am incredibly excited to see what happens in S2E9, and I hope that once the strike is over S3, 4 and 5 will be able to be as close to their vision as they can make them.

#This is just a theory #a yellowjackets theory #yellowjackets #spoilers #long post #.Literally all my posts are long

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catdadeddie · 2 years ago

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how to get the rookie creator to go take over for kristen bc he listens to fans. kristen needs to be fired.

You don't know me very well if thought this ask was going to be well received by me and I was just going to agree with you.

I don't know if you watch The Rookie or keep up with the promotional content at all, but I do. I've read the unsupportive statements about chenford and such leading to this. I remember going to a friend after one and going "I'm shocked this could happen but this guy is worse than Tim". I'm thankful that they finally got together and I'm happy about it. I'm glad the writers, actors and fans were finally listened to.

Now, you wanna bitch that Kristen does nothing and we're all suffering. If you really want to be upset, stop watching the show.

Kristen has listened to the fans far more than Tim did. Tim listened at times and I'll give him that but right now, she's paying attention to fan feedback and you can see it in what's happening on the show.

We responded well to new/less explored dynamics like Buck and Hen and Eddie at dispatch, so they continued to give us new dynamics this season. (People are crying about it now but it was a good choice on her part).

The fans wanted Ravi back and Lucy not back (and I personally hope that fans aren't what drove that decision here but for the purposes of this) and in 6b that's what's planned.

People have asked for ages for a proper Eddie PTSD arc and we got a season long arc addressing not only his PTSD but also his issues with his family. Tim could never.

We asked for YEARS for a Henren Begins episode and we FINALLY got it.

Now, yes, none of this is buddie, we haven't gotten buddie yet. But if you know something I don't and it's nail in the coffin, confirmed that buddie will never ever happen, then please share with the class. If you're just grouchy and impatient, walk away until it does happen so those of us having a good time can enjoy ourselves.

Don't think because I'm excited about one of ships going canon, that I'm going to sit and throw a fit about the other not happening. It gives me more hope, it doesn't take it away.

#anon #nova answers #fandom discourse #i normally wouldnt answer something like this but apparently the narrative going around is 911 is inferior to The Rookie because of this #and as a fan of both- this is a really stupid take

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piningbuddies · 2 years ago

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why do you think it's not that deep they're in the finale for goodness sakes, they're literally pairing eddie up with a random women he meets in the very next episode. Why should Buddie fans have faith even if these relationships go nowhere which they won't it just seems like Buddie is not something Kristen ever intends on doing with the show no matter what is displayed on the screen

okay anon two things

first of all, thank you SO much for giving me an excuse to step away from exam revision. seriously, i'm on my 4th lecture of the day and feel like i'm about to start scuttling up my walls like a little cockroach.

second of all, where are you getting that? literally all we know is that marisol is in 6x17 and 6x18. we have no idea about the context whatsoever, that's one reason i say it's not that deep. the other reason is that eddie himself has quite literally made it clear that relationships with people they meet on calls aren't going to work! take a look at buck's history: abby who he first spoke to during yep, you guessed it! 911 call! ali, who he saved on a call! taylor, who, once again, he met on a call! and let's not forget natalia, who he's also quite literally just met on a call.

i have faith because we quite honestly don't know the writers/showrunners intentions at all. unless they explicitly tell us, we have absolutely no way of knowing!! but one thing to bear in mind is that all of these people? they're not stupid. the writers and directors and, yes, the showrunner all work together to create a cohesive and compelling story. nothing that they do, or say, or imply is by accident. they all work together to craft this beautiful narrative that we're lucky enough to watch unfold, and they do it so seamlessly. you can dislike some of the decisions they make, that's absolutely fine, but i would rather choose to place my faith into the hands of the people who have been crafting so delicately this complex, real narrative for us. everything they've said this season, all the subtext they've given us in both this and every other season since season two has led me to believe that buddie will be canon. but building a believable story around that takes time, and i'm in it for the long haul!!

you absolutely don't have to agree with me, that's completely fine, but if the show's getting you that wound up, it honestly might be time to stop watching. happy tuesday!! <33

#anon #asks #911 spoilers #buddie

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Question!! I recently started (and finished) Veronica Mara and I am a HUGEEEE fan!!! Logan is my personality currently.

I hate hate hate S4, and not just for that horrible ending. But I did see some people saying a few things, if you could please clarify as a Burnt Marshmallow.

1. Rob Thomas apparently really liked/favored Piz? Is this true and are there any interviews where we can see it? He’s got terrible taste

2. RT, Kristen Bell and someone else I forgot apparently talked down to fans who were heartbroken over the ending of S4?

3. Someone re blogged a post of Jason Dohring being super sweet, thanking and saying the best part of the show was his cast mates. The hashtag the user posted though was basically saying “Move on Jason, these people don’t deserve you because they don’t think of you the same”. Which leads me to think not so nice things about the energy of the cast.

Any tidbits about the show is highly appreciated, LoVe forever!!!!

I might not be the best person for this ask because, while I was a fan, and I did gobble up all the LoVe fanfic I could get my hands on, I wasn't really part of the fandom.

Here was my impression though.

1. RT did talk up Piz, but I don't think that was because he was his fave, but because he was the writer's creation and he had a purpose in the show. He was a nice guy, but he wasn't the *right* guy, and I think that needed to be shown. If Piz was RT's fave, he would have had made more of effort to give him a meaty part.

I do think he may have toying with the idea of Leo being a future partner but nobody was into that idea either.

2. The spin after season 4 was ridiculous and the way RT doubled down on everything was not the way to go. There was an element of 'i'm right and you're wrong' that nobody was buying. I didn't take it personally though. I just thought 'oh, my sweet summer child'. The guy was trying really hard to sell a 'Veronica Mars on the Road' reboot, and nobody was interested. He killed off a fave character for nothing.

3. I will be honest. This wasn't a cast issue, this was a fan issue. I never got the impression the cast had issues at all. Killing off Logan was not a personal thing for RT, it was a logistical one. He wanted to carry on with the VM story but it was too hard to round up all of the original cast for the new show. So he made a decision - dump the ensemble and move on to a show that only relied on the lead. He killed Logan because it would give VM a good reason to leave town. From a writer's POV it made sense, from a fandom POV it was a gut punch. RT undervalued Logan and the rest of the cast as part of the VM story. Nobody was interested in watching a VM show without the other characters. It was the relationships in that show that made it magic. He killed the show.

I'm still mad as hell about the awful ending but I don't think this was a diss on Jason Dohring.

And RT made a bad judgement call but I genuinely don't think he was trying to be an asshole. (Believe me, I'm a survivor of fandoms that had to deal with asshole showrunners. RT is not even in the running.)

#veronica mars #anonymous #anon ask #ask #LoVe

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no but its so "funny" how everything people didn't like in s5 and s6 is all Kristen's fault bc she's the showrunner and has final say over storylines/arcs etc but everything people DID like ~somehow~ was all the writers and the actors doing and she wasn't involved with that at all. and it's just like, do you hear yourself?? pick one bc both can't be true at the same time here.

People really want one (1) person to blame when things aren't going the way they want and lock themselves into a simplistic view instead of admitting that there were so many things affecting how seasons 5 and 6 went.

I'm not trying to argue that Kristen is perfect in any way (and I don't think you insinuated that either), but the absolute vitriol thrown her way is disgusting. I remember vividly how one of her comments about filming 6x10 got misconstrued into her not thinking Ryan can act, and anything nice she said about Arielle Kebbel was her "pushing the bucklucy narrative."

On the opposite end Tim is not some perfect being who only ever makes decisions the fans love (if he'd been around it's possible we'd never have gotten Eddie's breakdown arc in 5B). This show is made by a team of people, and on the whole they're doing a fantastic job of bringing us stories we can love.

#ask frida #anon

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buddieisgoingcanon25 · 1 year ago

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“Like, did Eddie ever tell Chris Buck is his gaurdian? How the hell do wr know. No emotional payoff.”

To the anon who mentioned this. I couldn’t agree more with you. It was one of my biggest issues with season 6 honestly. The constant offscreen payoffs to storylines. But, Unfortunately while Kristen is in charge of the show, I don’t see that changing much going forward. That is unfortunately her style and the type of story she likes to tell/have told. So many things started happening off screen (emotional conclusions, conversations, family issues) once she really took the reins of the show in season 4. I don’t say season 3 because while yes that’s when she joined the show, she took a more passive role in things until she got on more stable ground in season 4. Part of that falls onto how she was trained and part of it falls on her own laziness which I say laziness because she has admitted in one or two different interviews that she’s run out of ideas for the show in terms of big disasters and plots. She’s also admitted she feels their best work comes when they “tune out” what the fans are saying instead of “second guessing their decisions based on fan reactions” and the same thing regarding buddie. She has been against it since the very beginning and has stated multiple times she “does not see it” (it being the romantic aspect between Buck and Eddie) and won’t let it happen. Now, that all being said, the big wigs at ABC can very well stick their hands into it. Obviously they are going to want to get their money worth from buying this expensive show. They could be planning on a season 8 already and are waiting to see how season 7 does before they decide to replace her. They could decide to replace her before season 7 even airs and just waiting for the writers strike to end before announcing it (I’m leaning against this route since we’ve already started hearing about writer changes and i feel like we’d have heard of her being replaced before they started writing scripts since changing after they were written would potentially cause rewrites under a different vision. Not exactly something they’d want after losing so much money due to the double strike) or they could keep her and just firmly over ride what she wants and flat out tell her this is what we want make it happen. No matter though, while she stays in charge of the show I would caution all of us to not get to… grand with our expectations over buddie and other things. I’m not saying don’t be excited over it. Just cautiously do it so you don’t get upset later if it doesn’t happen. We all saw what the end of season 6 did to the fandom.

Great thoughts anon. I will be much more cautious going forward.

#ryan guzman #oliver stark #buddie

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Do you think there's a better chance of Ryan/Eddie getting more screen time/decent story if Tim is back, since Tim seems to like him and Kristen seems to not?

Is the "not liking Eddie" POV (a frequent one, from what I've seen) a reaction to what happened in season six? Because if so, I have a couple thoughts about this. I personally think Eddie as a character fell victim to one of the show's greatest flaws, a flaw that Tim has admitted to and Jennifer echoed when discussing Maddie's arc - the show is really, really bad at writing for characters when they are "happy" or at least drama free. Season five was a slow progression towards a breakdown. The dispatch fire brought Eddie back to the 118. The very next episode he goes back to Texas and agrees to start mending his relationship with his father. The finale was the final chapter. Season six? Where were the writers going to go? Diaz boys scenes are dependent on whatever a child actor's contract stipulates (and it's not like we see Denny or Harry much more, so we can't act like there's a bias involved). Eddie's dating life? Addressed. Didn't go over well. Don't expect it to go over well because she "has no purpose" this late in the game (unlike non-first responder Karen, who was introduced as a wife and mother). Was he supposed to get hurt again? Was he supposed to be all up in Buck's business (when nobody but Hen knew about the sperm donor ask) even if "nothing" would come of it in terms of Buddie making the transition from friends to romantic partners? What would have made sense? What would have made people happy? (I think the problem lies with the latter, and I'm not saying this as an insult. Fans have their own expectations for Eddie, but when those goals are not met - even if it "fits" in context - it's not going to feel good because you're always gonna wonder what could have been had the show made a different decision at a particular time.) So. Could Tim being back mean Eddie gets a story line after a season in the background(ish)? Sure. But what's it gonna be when everything the fans have wanted (minus the never-ending Buddie canon request) has been handled? What's the next logical step? 🤔

#anonymous #tina speaks #tv: 911 #tv: 9-1-1 #eddie diaz

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jerreeeeeee · 10 months ago

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the kristen & cassandra thing this season has really hit a sweet spot for me of knowing that professional dnd player ally beardsley is making the choices they’re making in order to let brennan do his thing with cassandra and because stories are more interesting when bad decisions are made and actions have consequences, but i also feel deeply frustrated with character kristen applebees for making those poor decisions. i love the layers and fourth wall breaks that come from the players or “writers” being part of the finished product, its one of the many reasons i love actual play shows, but having the “writers” present also makes suspension of disbelief a little harder because the structure of the story is much closer to the surface. so i love when character choices ARE able to make me feel that genuine frustration even when its also very clear WHY those choices are being made

#fhjy

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lblairfilmfestivals2024 · 1 month ago

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My top 5 favourite films at the moment

Burlesque (2010)

Burlesque is a musical movie starring Christina Aguilera, Cher, Stanley Tucci and Cam Gigandet among many other huge names. The story surrounds itself around the protagonist 'Ali' who leaves her job as a waitress to pursue her career on the stage. She struggles to get a job as a dancer at the burlesque club where the owner Tess (played by Cher) refuses to give her a job. After Ali being relentless in her efforts to impress Tess, she eventually concedes and offers Ali a job where on one night the music is cut during her performance by her rival 'Nikki' (played by Kristen Bell). Ali is forced to finish the performance by singing live, this blows Tess away and she rewrites the whole show around Ali, driving her to success. As well as this movie being about showbiz and glamour there is also a wholesome love story between Ali and the bartender Jack (played by Jack Gigandent) .

I love this movie as I like musicals as well as being a dancer in my spare time so relate to the real life struggles Ali goes through to achieve her dream career. Mainly I love the soundtrack as there are brilliant ballads and upbeat songs to dance to.

Little Women (2019)

Little Women is a movie adaptation of the classic novel by Louisa May Alcott. This is a coming of age period classic about the March sisters as they enter womanhood and are faced with different decisions that affect their future. The main character Jo March (played by Saoirse Ronan) is determined to become a famous writer. Meg March (played by Emma Watson) wishes to get married and be a housewife. Amy March (played by Florence Pugh) wants to be a famous artist and Beth March (played by Eliza Scanlen) longs to be a pianist. One day they meet their neighbours Laurie (played by Timothée Chalamet) and Mr. Laurence (played by Chris Cooper). Laurie immediately forms a friendship with Jo who is to be his unrequited love interest whilst Mr. Lawrence takes a liking to Beth. Laurie's friend John Brooke (played by James Norton) is later wed to Meg. Beth gets sick and unfortunately dies whilst Amy goes on to marry Laurie. This story is also full of beautiful friendships and sisterly relationships.

I love this movie as I believe Greta Gerwig portrays girlhood beautifully and has been able to highlight how different each of this sisters are. I personally also really resonate with both Amy and Meg's characters. This is definitely a comfort film of mine.

Marie Aintoinette (2006)

Marie Aintoinette (directed by Sofia Coppola) is an adaptation of the historical figures story from her leaving her home in Vienna at the age of 14 to marry Louis, the Dauphin of France (played by Jason Schwartzman). The new Dauphine (Kirstin Dunst) is faced with the struggles of her new life at court and her relationships with her new family. She becomes queen and lives an extremely lavish lifestyle and is soon hated by her people because of it.

There is so much I love about this film however I absolutely adore the cinematography. Aintoinette's lifestyle is one of the many ways that Coppola has made the film visually thrive as it is full of bright coloured dresses and beautiful shoes and well as hundreds of fine desserts all together on screen which is gorgeous to watch. I also love how modern music is used to add chaos and fun such as 'I want candy' by Bow Wow Wow. Mostly I love how though the main body of the film is quite fun and outrageous, the start and end are both so melancholy and represent both the start and end of her womanhood.

Call me by your name (2017)

Directed by Luca Guadagnino, Call me by your name is about Elio (played by Timothée Chalamet) who is staying with his parents in his house in Italy over the summer. His Father (played by Michael Stuhlbarg) has a temporary assistant Oliver (played by Armie Hammer) come to stay. Him and Elio begin to develop feelings for each other. We see their relationship blossom but ultimately Oliver leaves to go home and ends up calling Elio to tell his family that he is now engaged and the film ends with Elio's heartbreaking reaction to the news.

I absolutely adore this movie and will never get bored of it. Elio shows such genuine and wholesome love towards Oliver . It's such a beautiful and heartbreaking story. I love the soundtrack as it makes the film so light and airy paired with the beautiful cinematography that shows off the beauty of an Italian summer.

Sex and the City (2008)

Sex and the city (film) continues the story from the hit 6 season tv show that aired in 1998 and follows columnist Carrie Bradshaw (played by Sarah Jesica Parker) and her fashionista friends Samantha Jones (played by Kim Cattrall), Miranda Hobbes (played by Cynthia Nixon) and Charlotte York (played by Kristin Davis) in their ups and downs in life, love and friendship.

I have been obsessed with this movie from too young of an age. this is such a feel good film that has characters I can relate to and fun fashion and soundtrack featuring artists like Fergie and Ciara. This movie is THE GO TO chick flic in my opinion and is the perfect movie for a girls night in!

#film #film review #favourite films

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