#it happens a lot w JCS like a lot a lot

[prorneth-eus]

me: I want to listen to one song from this musical

also me: forgets and twenty minutes later i am in the final act weeping

[llycaons]

I feel awful tonight and we're barely doing anything. my coworker who passed by was like 'every time I see you, you look more depressed' 😭 and the night security guy gave me candy...thinking about the tweet that said 'jc rly lost everything but his virginity' thank you jc you have made me smile so much over the years

[ilynpilled]

sorry, i know you said you already said why but i cannot really find it, but why do you dislike jc double death?

this is gonna be short and fast sorry and also ig why i personally think it is not all that likely

1. jc delusion narratives are being deconstructed by the books. them dying together, as much as there is functional irony considering they cause each other’s death in some way (more directly or not lol), still cements aspects of it which works less well in my eyes. not moved by “womb to tomb” personally

2. do not like its impact on jaime’s individuation arc. not even redemption (again. ppl’s lives have meaning not their deaths. view a character holistically) whatever who cares wise but more-so ‘jaime is his own individual with an identity that is cemented as separate from his sister obviously now that he is out of his limbo state’

3. asos dream has cersei leave with the dead lans (tywin and joff and they go to the ancestors) with her flame before jaime who remains there w brienne w his own flaming sword. he is left in the dark with something terrifying and then gets his trauma packaged in long night imagery. jaime’s light going out sure but cersei says ‘as long as the flames burn ull live’ and brienne’s flame is giving light, and she essentially replaces the torch that cers was holding: ‘the only light in the cavern the only light in the world’. ofc all this is up to interpretation i just think there is deliberate open endedness

3. widow’s wail is in kl rn (plethora of shit there indicating that he will be the one to wield it lol. i mean who else? this is smn the show also confirms ig. he is gonna have to get that damn sword in his hand somehow) is he gonna go back and forth? how long is cers gonna live?

4. this is just a funny and silly issue bc i truly dgaf atp but like how is it gonna happen exactly? cersei stabs him at the same time? (silly to me. also not the point of valonqar imo from cersei’s angle esp) a rock falls on him after? he gets dragon fire nuked right after? he gets a heart attack at the same time? he kills himself? (alright this one is funny)

5. it could cut things short and make a lot of things/interactions i wanna see happen and imo been set up to happen not possible

[be-the-glenn-to-my-maggie]

Avatar fandom on TikTok is scaring me so I am going to teach you all media literacy if it kills me. 

I steadfastly believe that the Neytiri/Quaritch/Spider trio is the most interesting and layered character development JC has going for him rn. Ya’ll not having the basic human empathy to understand Spider or Neytiri’s povs is freaking me out. 

First, Neytiri. Neytiri is someone who has lost half her family, half her clan, and the only home she’s ever known to an oppressive colonizing force. Quaritch is the physical representation of all that pain and loss. He had not only killed countless Na’vi, killed Grace, tried to destroy their connection to all of their ancestors, and is the person who destroyed her home and killed her father, he is also the person who almost killed Jake. He also in a way, represents Jake’s betrayal. We forget, but Jake did betray Neytiri. He stayed with the Omaticaya knowing what Quaritch and Parker Selfridge had planned for them, feeding them information about their home and their strengths, and she forgave him, but Na’vi mate for life and he didn’t disclose that vital information beforehand. Jake was working and spying directly for Quaritch. He represents that hurt. For her, Spider is like a ticking time bomb. He is around her kids and she can’t ever feel safe with this child, this human child of her worst enemy who has caused all of the worst things in her life, in her life and with her family. She tolerates him for her kids but that’s it. I think her mindset totally makes sense, and I really hope she’s able to see past his parentage and accept him! 

Spider is a child. He is not responsible for the actions of his parents, obviously. He has spent his entire life being raised by people that really don’t want anything to do with him. He has been basically a burden his entire life. The scientists were forced to keep him because he was too young to send to Earth, and the Sully’s were not equipped (and did not really try) to take on a human child. They are basically his family, but they don’t treat him as such. Everything that happens with Quaritch is Stockholm syndrome times 10000. And the opposite for Quaritch, which is Lima syndrome. This kid has never had an adult show him care or affection, and now he’s getting it from a weird reanimated clone of his father in a kidapping/hostage situation. Quaritch’s first move is to take Spider from torture. He says you can come with me or you can be tortured. He conditions him from the get go, that’s bad stuff here is good stuff. Even more importantly, in Spider’s eyes he saves his life from Neytiri. I would LOVE to know later if she intended to kill him (pls check out my post on my opinion on the significance of the cut on his chest) but regardless, Spider thinks she did and that Quaritch saved him. Regardless of his motives and how bad of a person he is (irredeemably sorry Quaritch girlies), Spider can’t leave him to die. It’s such a hard decision for him, but he’s a kid and a good person. One who values life like all Na’vi are taught to. And he still leaves him to go back to the Sully’s, who have not bothered to even try to be concerned about him outside of the kids. 

I’m not even gonna get too far into Quaritch, because I know there’s a lot of Quaritch stans out there now which does boggle my mind. But, as awful of a person as he is, he is a super super interesting character in this movie. In the first movie, he is a blatant representation of racism and colonialism in the worst sense, in a way that makes him a great villain but not a very layered character. He is a foil for Jake, showing us the worst of Jake in an outside antagonist. It’s easy to forget by AWOW that Jake used to have a similar mindset to Quaritch. Placing Quaritch in the body of those he fears and hates the most I think is a very fun twist. But what I really loved was his fear of Neytiri and how much that is highlighted in the film. The way he looks at her arrows is just spine chilling, and I can’t wait to see her kill him again because I can’t see it culminating any other way. 

The other thing relating to this is Spider’s fear of Neytiri. Her mistrust and fear of him had been a block in his life basically since birth. Her kids love and accept him as a brother easily, and Jake keeps him at arms length for Neytiri (which is a whole Jake issue but we can get into Jake another time). Neytiri stands between Spider and the family he’s always wanted, and him seeing her fight and just backing up in fear before she grabs him is so good, just a great culmination of all events. What I’d love to see from it is Neytiri and Spider having to come to terms with their fear of the other in order to move on and create a family unit. A son for a son, right, Quaritch gets Neteyam killed so Neytiri, Quaritch’s biggest fear, gets what he wants right now, which is Spider. 

[dottie-wan-kenobi]

modern au where jin ling has a tiktok account and every video is of one of his uncle's houses and he's like "turns out the ghost hates [insert uncle name here] too" and then the rest of the video is wwx's ghost knocking over cups/banging on the wall/making water drip/writing taunts on steamed up mirrors/etc and whichever Uncle Guy it is suffering the consequences of being a Jin Ling Uncle Who Isn't WWX

jc gets the bangs/knocks RIGHT when he's abt to fall asleep. no amount of ignoring it or shouting "shut up!!!" stops it. he has to get up and pound on the wall and then wwx will think about shutting up. maybe. but probably not for another few rounds of this or until jc threatens to sleep outside or something

lxc wakes up every morning to find All of his shit is messed up, like his fancy tea cabinet is reorganized in the stupidest way possible (by color and the second letter of the brand name), his fancy coffee table magazines are open to ominous pages about hair cuts, his records are riffled thru and sometimes set in the trash if wwx really doesn't like it

jgy gets shower messages that say shit like "I Know What You Did :)" that makes him convinced someone is trying to Expose Him and so he sets up so many cameras expecting to see idk mxy or xy doing it but he never catches anything!! the cameras fuzz out and suddenly the message is there!! he's being played with!!! this can't stand!!!

nmj gets creaking hallways and sometimes he thinks he hears angry voices. at first he's like great there's my family's mentow illness kicking in early. but then lxc or someone also hears it and he's like great is there a creep hiding in my house?? but no it's just wwx's ghost who also sometimes rushes up behind him and clenches his hand on nmj's shoulder or tugs his hair and makes the angry voices go Very Loud

nhs gets really weird fucking dreams where wwx sits at the end of his bed and smiles at him a lot. if nhs looks too closely wwx starts to fade into the dark behind him, but if nhs just glances and acts like nothing weird is happening then wwx will sometimes laugh like nhs said something funny. (nhs tries to talk to him but wwx doesn't reply)

mxy will be like "if ur real help me pick which eyeshadow I should use" and then one of the options will fly off the table and he'll say "thanks weird ghost u have good taste" and wwx will send his magnifying mirror spinning bc hell yeah he does

lwj sometimes feels, very strongly, that he's being watched,, but usually he's alone or w someone who isn't looking at him nearly intense enough to explain how strong the feeling is. it doesn't feel malicious but it gets a bit unnerving; wwx can tell and starts to pet lwj like a startled bunny too to soothe him >:3

[fitzrove]

Hi, Fitzrove, I wanted to ask you, since you've been to the Perman Production of JCS; could you please tell a bit more about your opinion of the staging (strengths/weaknesses)?

I like your analyses of Elisabeth and would like to hear your opinion on JCS too :)

(On a sidenote - it's been a while since I've seen it - why is Mark cradling Oedo after the torture scene? 👀 I kind of didn't remember Pilates having a moment with Jesus there)

Hii!! Thanks for asking!

Omg disclaimer - my analysis is NOT going to be very good, this is the first JCS production I have ever seen and I first listened to any cast recording (the 2005 one) two hours before going to see it 😂😭

I think strong parts were: costuming (it's a concert but if the budget is limited I'd argue that nice simple "modern" costumes can look better than cheap historical costumes. Loved Marjan in a long flowy red dress, Oedo in all white - with a bloody crucifix shirt at the end - and the priests in black. Only one I'm not sure about is T-shirt mark, that was just kind of weird and was not giving much Pilate...), the torture scene w Oedo standing on a table and being pulled w strings on each arm (the table was like. the only setpiece but worked well esp with his acting), and the way the ensemble used the entire stage space during choreographies etc., and how soloists walked up and down the stage if necessary etc. The only thing that stood out to me as weird was the entire cast sitting down around the table at the beginning/prologue in the last supper position, like just chilling in the background while it was happening, that was a bit weird and awkward to me, like them just Being There not doing anything akdkfkfk.

And with the torture scene - the cradling part is during these lines:

And I thought it was very well done, it could've been more homoerotic though DJKFKFKF but I think it still worked! Was grateful that Mark actually remembered to act during that part 😅😁

Sorry I think this is a very bad reply 😅😁 I simply don't have a lot to compare to since I've only seen this one staging, and I was also struggling to remember what happens next because I'm not a Christian (I mean I am culturally but I left the church as a kid due to lack of belief, and haven't been to church or bible story lessons since age 11...) 😂😭. But overall I think it was an effectively staged concert version, there's no weird random choices happening like in some other concert productions we shan't speak of...

[quietasfire]

honestly idk if this is the seedling of wwx haterism taking root in me but i genuinely hate how he treats wn (also, all roads lead to chengxian)

after mxy resurrection he just seems to brush wn off a lot while wn is out here doing the most. idk i know wwx refuses to confront anything because delusion is his solution to everything. and wn is a painful reminder of his yiling demonic cultivation days, just like jc is a painful reminder of wwx gutting himself to pay a debt that never was w/ his life's work. i understand why wwx would act that way (he tends to block everything out and pretend like its fine while his behavior shows that it is not fine bc lying only gets u so far) but it is truly one of his most insufferable traits. he wants an enabler that allows him to live without confronting himself or other people (lwj) but legit will he even be satisfied w that. is that even something thats sustainable in the long run.

mdzs canon is really weird to me because

1) wwx doesnt seem to want to deal with the world he lives in? wn is reduced to a weapon/thing once again bc lwj keeps taking precedent over him like the lwj drunk jealousy scenes piss me off so much, wn is literally being robbed of his agency and consciousness but that keeps being pushed back because uwu romance

2) hes not going to be satisfied that way. its just not in his nature to settle. ur telling me wwx is going to be happy in cloud recesses? while lwj may be a hypocrite and break his own sect's rules or even leave gusu lan to be a wandering cultivator w wwx, i genuinely dont see how that cld happen without wwx feeling guilty and bottling it up and ofc turning it to resentment

3) why didnt jc and wwx reconcile. legit why. wwx is saying lets just let it go but like. dude it is physically impossible for yall to be strangers. he let himself be gutted to save u and then u gutted urself to save him thats not a stranger thing. He has a major piece of you in him and he didnt even ask for it nor could he say yes to it. like girl i know you love running from your problems but eventually youre going to tire out?? What

4) he doesnt seem to change his ways, like his ego and impulsivity is still there? he didnt grow? like it rly feels as though the novel isnt even sure what story it wants to tell

pls so many things r so bizarre in this novel. the only part that makes sense is venerated triad and it proves mxtx CAN write irreparably broken relationships caused by a fundamental disagreement in nature (nmj hates jgy for who he is, jgy hates nmj for what he did, nmj would rather break than bend, jgy would rather bend than break) but thats not the case for chengxian??? so why is their relationship being treated as though its beyond salvation

idk i have a fever sorry

[lascapigliata]

the jc subreddit is interesting for finding restaurant recommendations but is SO funny (derogatory) otherwise. the other day there was a post warning everyone in hysterical terms about “aggressive begging” on a busy road as if panhandlers don’t happen in every city on earth. there’s constantly posts about “attempted scams” which very well might be but they’re so dogwhistley and/or pointedly mention race then hide behind “well i just want to warn everyone who to watch out for!”

today there was someone whos living under a neighbor who makes a bunch of stomping noise and all the advice was to go snitch to the landlord and when i said like, leave a note first, living under noise is a fact of life in a city, i am getting mega downvoted. sorry but ? it is ?

during covid i lived under someone who LITERALLY took a tap dance lesson twice a week and it drove me up a wall but i still somehow managed to live with it bc i didn’t want to argue w a neighbor and i wasn’t about to fucking tattle lol. i banged on the ceiling twice, didn’t work, moved on. even in my place now the dog runs around a lot and i have to hear it all the time.

move to a top floor or get to a suburb if you can’t handle it for real. it’s a city ! this is all stuff that happens in cities!

[blueiight]

at risk of reopening a can of worms (feel free to ignore) i think a reason ppl want to say the murder of lestat wasn’t as violent as…you know…is bc louis was visibly reluctant and trying to balance his tender love towards lestat with the necessity of his death, but reluctance doesn’t make it not violent. which can be very confusing when you are experiencing violence that doesn’t appear to be violent in the “traditional” sense for lack of better words. so it’s important to know violence has many faces. if you were expecting the manic energy he brought to killing in the past your missing key factors that led to why he was so ferocious about those other kills. so many things at work for both situations and they can’t be ignored. if your comparing louis to lestat like 1 to 1 there’s still things your missing one of them being they have very different approaches to the business of killing, which is a theme that threads throughout the entire season. but it was still violent even if there was a bit of poetry happening in tandem with the violence on top of everything that came before it that can’t be ignored bc i also believe louis revealed some feelings about the… previous event …during murder night.

yeah! its like, louis has no reason to give a fuck about the alderman or tom, but he lived 30+ years with lestat, was bedded by him, had a vampire baby with him, the full gamut of domestic life w somebody ykwim. u can also think of louis’s breakdown as part of his pattern of disordered eating: binging + then, crashing out. think of ep3 how antsy he is bc of tighter jc laws then he eats the alderman sees claudia and is like crying begging lestat to turn her. ep6 hes suicidal ep7 frayed at the edges playing the femme fatale hunger got me lightheaded eats tom& co then hes crying as he cuts lestat’s neck nice + slow. a lot going on but ultimately show louis is far more involved in the murder plot than he ever was book wise

[las-lus]

I wish I could begin to explain. I got moat of this from tiktok. But j.cole and drake released a song last year called first person shooter where j Cole was like we the big three (Kendrick Lamar, Drake and himself)

Recently on a track w future and metro boomin Kendrick had a feature and literally said "fuck the big three it's just big me" and popped shots primarily at Drake tho jcole caught some too.

(Warning my timeline on the next two events may be backwards. They happened kinda fast)

JC dropped a diss track called might delete later, talking on Kendrick. However Cole said something to the effect of "actually this ain't right in Mt spirit so I'm taking it down." Resulting in people clowning on him (little did we know)

Drake dropped push ups, taking shots at Kendrick and also other people??? But it was mostly about Kendrick being short and some other shit

Shortly after that drake drops a now deleted song that had not one but two AI voiced verses, one from Snoop Dogg and one FROM TUPAC (which is insane) he caught a cease and desist letter from the Tupac estate and drake deleted it

Everything's quiet for a minute. And then April 30th happens.

Kendrick finally responds to drake with a 6 minute diss track titled euphoria. It's fairly brutal. There's literally a bar in it that goes "I hate the way you talk I hate the way you walk I hate the way you dress" calling drake out on being a culture vulture, asking when he'd have enough features to finally feel black enough other rightful but insane stuf. Also, Kendrick was straight like "I hate the way you say [n word]" and then ends the song with "we don't wanna here you say [nword] no more."

Silence. And then may 3rd middle of the night kdot drops ANOTHER DISS TRACK on insta called 6:16 in LA. Which is at the very least a rip on the way drake titles his stuff. This one proceeds to tell drake that there's a mole in his house feed Kendrick this shit. There's a lot more to that one but it keeps happening

Shortly after that drake drops "family matters" its again a wide spray type thing, calling Kendrick short, shooting at others that type a shit. The thing to note is drake was like "don't you beat ur wife? Ain't one of those kids not urs" which is wild bc Kendrick even came out a while ago on Mr Morales album and said he and his wife had some problems but they were working them out behind closed doors and drakes just dragging that shit out all over again. Also he opens the song saying the n word but by all accounts (the black people I watch on tiktok) He made it sound weird coming out of his mouth. Plus he had a weird slave reference line in it??? Left people feeling a little sus about it

AND THEN. Kendrick drops THIRTY MINITES LATER. THREE ZERO (30) drops Meet the Grahams. Bitch (neutral but I'm excited) Kendrick starts the song TALKING TO DRAKES SON. APOLOGIZING TO ADIONS THAT HIS FATHER SUCKS AND IS A BAD DAD. He then goes on to talk to drakes parents, telling his mother "your sons a sick man with sick thoughts. Aought to be with weinstien in that cell" ecta talking about how drake and the OVO protects predators and gives em allowances and shit

It gets worse in meet the graham's. THE THIRS VERSE STARTS W dear baby girl. This verse basically implies drake has ANOTHER HIDDEN CHILD???? but this one might be a girl and also ELEVEN YEARS OLD. Kendrick is eating drake alive

And now as of May 4th, Kendrick dropped ANOTHER DISS called not like us FLAT OUT CALLING DRAKE A PEDOPHILE. Like "I know you like them young. [...] trying to strike a cord, probably a minorrrrr" to some other crazy shit. PLUS HE SAYS HES GOT MORE???? WHAT ELSE JS THERE

There is far more nuance then I'm giving but this is the bare bones crazy shit going rn in the hip hop rap game world. This all started with Megan Thee Stallion when she dropped HISS bc as much as people wanna say kt was all about Nicki Minaj, there were lines in there Abou Drake. Kendrick Lamar saw the opening and took, trying to put that bitch in the ground.

Its insane and it's only may. And drake hasn't even responded to meet the Grahams let alone not like us. Even if drake responds he's cooked. At this point I think we'd rather just watch them throw direct hands with each other (I highly recommend getting on tiktok to see the break downs and reactions to it.) (Or even youtube the diss reactions) its insane

Anyway thanks for your time, sorry for this to be such a mess

OH THIS IS EVEN MESSIER THAN I ORIGINALLY THOUGHT

Thank you so much for this, you also gave me psychic damage 💙

[truly-morgan]

[Drunk!JC after sect conference meets LQR]

RenCheng | Mo Dao Zu Shi 27-12-2021

[drunk young sl #jiangcheng after sect conference (rencheng undertone?)]

The night was stretching for quite a while now and everyone was slowly starting to leave the banquet room. This also meant Jiang Cheng was finally able to slip away from those who had been talking with him and making him drink more and more. He knew he should probably have stopped earlier, but some of them were also important sect leaders and with the state of lotus pier at the moment, he couldn't afford to offend anyone. still, maybe he should have gone easier on the wine.

He carefully got up, testing his balance once he was upright.

"Is sect leader jiang alright?" he heard on his left, turning only to find nmj and jgy stopping next to him on their way out.

he forced a smile on his face, politely saluting them.

"It is nothing" he assured them with a forced smile, "I may have had a cup of wine too much, but I will be alright".

He managed to do some small talk with them, before finally being able to escape, trying to make his way back to his room without stumbling too much.

He truly didn't understand how anyone would enjoy drinking so much to "feel good". All it made him was feel tenser because he felt like it would be even easier for him to mess up right now. at least now he was far away enough from everyone not to make a fool of himself.

he was a little bit surprised when his foot caught on something, feeling himself a bit too slow to react to his fall. All he could do was brace himself for the impact with the ground, hoping no one was around.

instead, he felt strong arms around him, pulling him against a firm torso. he opened his eyes surprised, looking up only to find lqr looking down at him.

the older cultivator had been keeping an eye on jc all night, to make sure he would be alright. It took him to go on a walk to talk with some old friends to come back and find a rather drunk jc trying to make his way out of the banquet.

he assumed it was good none of these older sneakier sect leaders did anything to mess with the young sect leader's reputation, but he still followed him only to be sure nothing would happen.

he did good with this, as he was able to stop him from falling to the ground.

he was a bit surprised when he felt the young man suddenly relax in his arm as if he was melting against him. Only then did he realise this had probably been a stressful situation for the young man. he had seen him in the past couple of years, fighting to show he could bring the jiang sect to what it was in the past. It was a lot on his shoulder and he couldn't mess up when he was rebuilding everything from nothing.

jc suddenly pushed himself from the safe embrace, getting flustered when he realised he had started to lean a bit too into it, enjoying it. How could he not when it felt so safe? Plus the affection he had grown for the older man was not gone even after all those years.

he quickly apologised, feeling a bit surprised when lqr stopped him with a kind smile. "Why don't you come and drink some tea with me? Maybe it will make you feel a bit better" suggested the older man.

"I wouldn't want to bother you this late" replied jc, only for the older man to insist he really didn't mind since he offered first. He wanted to make sure the young man would be well.

so jc followed, finding himself sitting next to lqr as they drank some tea. It felt a bit surreal since he couldn't remember ever doing this.

It did feel good drinking some tea, anything that wasn't wine was good right now, even helping him relax more. The silence was also relaxing, nothing awkward and tense like it could sometimes happen with others.

"sect leader jiang is doing a good job" lqr commented, taking the young man aback, not expecting such a compliment from the man. "You are working hard on taking the jiang sect to its older glory and I know you can bring it ever higher" he added.

"I know it can be hard sometimes to deal with all these other sect leaders, especially since most have decades of experience, but you are doing a good job doing so".

jc felt a bit flustered that a man he liked and looked up to so much was suddenly complimenting him and encouraging his hard work. It sent a warm feeling within him.

"But sometimes it is alright to challenge them a little bit when it is getting too much for you, always walking on eggshells can tire you out quickly".

jc already knew that, but he felt like he couldn't do otherwise. What else could he do but try to make sure his name was growing before he could put his foot down more properly?

"If things ever get too hard and suffocating, do come to me" then added lqr, turning more towards him, "I will be there to help you out, I want to see you succeed".

This somehow struck a chord within jc, making him feel strongly about hearing somehow so clearly tell him they were there for him, that they wanted to see him *succeed* while sounding convinced he will be.

in his still drunken state, he couldn't stop the tears from welling up in his eyes, trying to wipe them before they could roll down his cheeks. "I-I will remember this" he assured.

How could he refuse such a suggestion? Something in him wanted someone he could rely on, and it was somehow even better if it could be someone he had affection for and that he could also look up to. he had never felt judged by lqr and felt safe around him, how could he refuse?

He felt a bit surprised when he felt arms around him again, pulling him closer to the older man, nearly sitting in his lap. He wasn't able to control his tears anymore. Something in him simply couldn't stop after feeling so happy and relieved that someone seemed to believe in him so much, even stating it so clearly to him. This is something he had needed, for someone to allow him to rely on them a little bit without expecting anything in return.

he cried himself to sleep into safe arms, knowing he would be in good hands with lqr

Original

[llycaons]

ep48 (1/3): thank fucking god jc and wwx are finally talking it out

this was sweet. when does lwj ever defend someone to wwx rather than vice versa? but he dutifully reports than wen ning didn't do this happily

wwx rolling his eyes like 'oh GOD here we go again'

okay okay but I am so excited for this because I truly believe this is jc's absolutely best scene best monologue best interaction with wwx in the SHOW. finally everything coming to light! finally communication! finally a solid closure to the rage and grief that has torn them apart! but first it displays all of jc's issues and problems so so clearly

and it start off with jc bitterly praising wwx for being such a saint. which I really enjoy on a writing level, because it's very self-aware. it's easy as a reader to think that jc should bow down in gratitude, but jc as a character has a lot of pride and judges things very differently - he's a living, breathing, thinking character who has his own beliefs, principles, grudges, and motivations

I don't even know how to describe this. mocking praise? it's very characteristic of jc of this arc. sarcastic, insecure, and bitter, keenly aware of wwx's achievements and virtues and resenting him for them. idk what he wants wwx to do...obviously he's not thinking rationally but wwx can't help being good at stuff

he's making wwx entirely responsible for his feelings. not even 'you did this and I felt this way' but 'you are this way and I'm different and it's your fault that I'm not as good'

not even forgiving the debt owed from all those decades ago, even knowing the truth! he also has a big victim complex - even when wwx was being disrespected and even abused in ways jc wasn't, he still remembers it the way it'll suit his needs. no capacity to consider wwx's troubles or suffering. absolutely no emotional imagination. not that being low-empathy makes you a bad person, but the way he acted has never been part of a healthy relationship w wwx

this moment captures him SO well. while castigating wwx about jin ling, jin ling himself tries to reach out - to comfort or dissuade. and jc throws him off, impatient and angry and entirely focused on the object of his revenge rather than the living child he claims to be trying to protect, the child who's right there asking for his attention

this also feels very self-aware of the writing. almost...lampshading? not the right term. it feels fair and right that one major character close to wwx, and sympathetic despite his behavior, is holding wwx to task for this. I am obviously on wwx's side, but it makes sense than people would be upset but what happened and it feels very honest to allow jc this bitterness and anger rather than forcing everyone in the story to immediately forgive and love him. it adds texture and complexity to the characters and the world, and it makes actions like lwj's more significant. jc was never going to be the partner wwx needed, and that's extremely important to the story

another fair accusation. on the other hand it was pretty clear wwx was majorly depressed after the war and while jc might have been angry with him for drinking, he only responded with punishment instead of, idk, compassion for the other sibling who lost his entire home and family? jc didn't talk to wwx either

I read this as jc angry with himself for not being able to truly hate wwx, and blaming wwx himself for...not being hateable? it's very convoluted. jc needs so much therapy

CLOWN MOMENT

wwx touching lwj's hand to prevent him from jumping to wwx's defense, jl interpreting lwj leaning forward as him about to attack, and jc tearfully saying "I can take him!! you think I'm scared of him?" a lot going on here

oof. ough

there it is 😭 circumstances of the past aside, I'm glad they made it this point

...is that a smile? I can't even tell I swear

and NOW he's calling HIMSELF pathetic for even caring that much. my guy I think easing off on being judgemental towards yourself and your loved ones might help

JIANG CHENG APOLOGY EVENT CATCH IT ONCE EVERY TWENTY YEARS 🎇🎉🎈🎁

I can't tell if this is putting distance between jc and wwx (bc wwx is saying he did it as payment) or bringing them closer (bc wwx is saying there's no need for jc to regret or agonize over the past anymore)

I forgot how satisfying this scene was. wwx went through so many trials and despite the residual trauma, he really feels like he's able to move on. and that can include jc too

🥺🥺🥺

I believe in yunmeng sibling reconciliation!!! this was a really hopeful and honest and cathartic discussion and I feel really good about their future relationship. I get caught up in the scenes before this and I just a lot of jc fic writers on it, but after this scene I can def see their dynamic becoming much less antagonistic. wwx isn't joking about his pain or making excuses for jc or talking about how much he likes to be mistreated - he's gentle and honest and real. and he wants to move on. finally. finally they got there

[pharahsgf]

re: prev anon abt jc and lwj - it's also wild how many fans think jc and lwj are on the same level of immaturity and disrespect and act like wwx has to mediate between them or keep them from fighting as if it's isn't only jc being aggressive and cruel and childish. wwx doesn't have to 'make them get along' or manage their emotions bc lwj is better than that, that's the point! lwj may hate jc but he loves and respects wwx so much more than he wants to fight w jc

i know some mdzs fans read & watched with their eyes closed because i still see ppl complain about lan wangji being rude or cruel to jiang cheng and 'disrespecting' him in the future segment. like oh how dare he..... ignore jiang cheng's nonstop rancor instead of taking the bait and letting himself be dragged down to jiang cheng's level. he called him by his name instead of his title! petty!! nevermind the fact that jiang cheng has been CON STANT LEE antagonising lan wangji & throwing around the fact that he killed the love of lwj's life like i think lan wangji is being very polite and restained here, actually! i think most people would have been a lot less courteous if they were in his place rn!!

anyway. you're completely right lan wangji is much too mature and tactful to pick a fight with jiang cheng if it will hurt or inconvenience wei wuxian, and even if wwx wasn't there he still wouldn't stoop so low as to answer to jiang cheng's weird one-sided rivalry. he doesn't need to prove himself to jiang cheng, he already knows he's better than him! it's not gonna happen!

[not-rude-ginger]

you’re like one of my favorite writers of all time, you and your works are like such an inspiration to me!! and i was just wondering do you have any advice on how to start writing more longer stories and fics? because for me currently i’m still stuck in the hell of only being able to produce oneshots and i have a lot of ideas for longer stories but its really daunting and intimidating even thinking about sitting down and planning one out

Well, this was a lovely and thought provoking way to start my morning the other day! 🥰

I've been thinking about this a bit because I have a few answers, and I wanted to put them in some sort of structure, so let's see how we do.

This got very long so hiding it under a read more:

You said that you struggle to write longer stories. In many ways I have the opposite problem, I try to keep a story small and then it grows out of my control. But I have written short stuff, so I was trying to think about what the difference is for me.

I think for me, most of the time, a short story is about a moment or event, a kind of space in between a wider story, where you take a breath to sit with whatever is happening in that event.

With a longer story there's usually a starting point, a middle and an end in my head, and I might have a vague gossamer thread connecting them, with a few scenes I really like in amongst that. And that's usually all I have when I start writing.

If it's daunting to sit down and plan it all out, don't.

I tried that once and it murdered my interest in the story, so I never wrote it and moved on to other stuff.

You've probably heard of Plotters and Pansters, and it's useful but I think a better break down of writer types is this video:

Basically she breaks it down between plotting, pantsing, intuition and methodology and how everyone falls somewhere between all 4 points.

I think I'm mostly an intuitive panster, but I do usually have some plotting elements, but they come as I write, I kinda realise I need something to foreshadow or prepare for something I know I've got coming, so I'll add it. The more the story unfolds before me, getting closer to whatever I see in the distance, I can start to see the things that need to be added.

To give an example from a recent work, part of why For What, For All But Myself grew so much was because as I worked on the story I realised I needed certain things to be a certain way.

I needed to put off the revelation that the pregnancy was a pregnancy until it was well into the 3rd trimester because if JC learned otherwise too early it would cause the latter half of the pregnancy drag out too much for the story to carry.

This meant I needed to have a reason they couldn't tell it was a baby. (in the first draft they weren't sure, going back and forth on what it was, which meant JC couldn't make a decision on anything and that ground the pace to a halt)

This meant that there was no reason JC wouldn't immediately try to get rid of it, so there I added the abortion attempt.

However, I had to have a reason it wouldn't work, so I had to decided on that.

That then had to tie back into why they couldn't see what it was.

And all of that had to be tied into why a surgery was put off for so long, so I needed to find a reason why it would be too risky when cultivators are canonically able to withstand a lot.

Then there was the Cult and the Cloud:

I knew I wanted the sect leaders to find out about JC's condition, so something needed to drive them to Lotus Pier.

So I added a disaster, but then I had to think what was behind that.

At first it was Demonic Cultivators just out to destroy the cultivation world, but it was still too sudden, it came out of nowhere, and there was no connection between it and the pregnancy storyline so I went back again.

Eventually I decided that it had to be creeping up on JC the whole time, so it had to become way more personal.

So I think I first had his people disappearing, and then I thought of the Cult and his history with it.

But that still wasn't sufficient, it felt too tacked on, it didn't feel strong enough. So I had to decide other sects were being hit too, just not as much - and then decide why they weren't coming to JC with their concerns.

So someone had to be undermining JC quietly, isolating him from the rest, which would only heighten his paranoia.

I think XY was always a part of the attack, from the earliest version, but he also got a bit more expanding - the fight between him and JC was so ridiculously short in the first draft - but honestly I wish I'd been able to do more with him and JC.

It wasn't necessarily as direct step by step as this, but I hope you can see the logic progression of how each thing you add needs to be followed to the next logical step. You also need to look at what is done to and by your characters and how it affects them.

With each revision the pressure I put on JC intensified, not exactly deliberately, but as a conscious understanding that if I wanted the pieces I liked in there, I had to deal with the effects and reactions of each thing.

There is also the fact that initially, the entire story was going to be from JL's POV. His opening part of the story, Part 2, was the first chapter, but writing it that way required so much back fill, and so much exposition, that I ended up moving the start of the story all the way back to make JC the POV we start with, and then JL and WWX shared, and then again back to JC. It also became uncomfortable for me that JC was denied his own voice when this awful thing happened to him, but I only realised that after I started adding it.

If you want to write a longer story, you can think about the core story you want to tell. I wanted to tell a story where JL discovered his Jiujiu was pregnant and it was killing him, and when I came up with that I started thinking 'Oooh, what about this? And this?'

I wanted to show Lotus Pier being functional, and I couldn't fathom the idea that it was working well if JC didn't have some decent relationships with the people around him, so the OCs came out as needed, and then had to be reused because one appearance would be weird. The Vipers were a very late addition which honestly made things harder for me, because there were scenes I needed JC alone that he likely wouldn't be alone for because of his constant guard, but it made sense in the world that he had some sort of attendants like them.

Then I remembered Mianmian and since she seemed to live in Yunmeng, I decided to have her and JC have some interaction, as a way of tying her to JL, because it seemed odd that she would have just left JZX completely when she left LLJ and if they were such good friends surely there would be some connection to JL. But since I didn't just want her appearing randomly with no connection to the plot, I had her turn up when JC was investigating the old cult base. A scene which I added initially because I felt JC needed to be seen going out and doing the work, not just stuck in his study all day.

This has gotten a bit long, but I hope it helps show that if you have a core idea and follow the threads in it to logical places, the story can unfold for you. It doesn't always come easy, I'm still not completely satisfied with how the two main plots fit together, and I know I was on very thin ice with how the C-section was dangerous, but once you have something written down, you can add to it, and adjust it. It's always easier to write more when you've already written something. So just start with what you have in your mind now, and try not to get too bogged down with small inconsistencies until its time to go back. You can make notes of things that need fleshing out as you go, and sometimes you'll need to start the whole story somewhere completely different.

If you find the prospect of planning the whole thing daunting, that's normal, that's more common than planning everything from the start, because as you write, you have new ideas, new twists, or you realise a plot point just isn't going to work, so you need to adapt. Stories are kinda living things, the best ones move and bend like rivers, and you should follow it because your gut instincts will lead you well, especially as you get more comfortable with it all.

Good luck and feel free to ask me more questions!

[the-firebird69]

I'm aware something is happening here. I'm locked up tighter than a drum no physically yes but these work it thinking I move due to blasphemy harassment. Similar to my husband but they want what I sit on. Iron ore. I'm prepping to move. He says I can drive him around am safer properly trained I am lol. So I train him. .he laughs ok like your skiing boy this is taking forever. Haha ok fun I like driving but ok. We work now lol

But no I see it. Hear it Chang coming my way good need it desperately. I'm excited now. Saw it ok. Me. Hehe. He laughs a little good good and for me to see it silently. I prep. And yes for flight need huge fleets. These allow it sorta want to see us. Good. I'm prepping MB this February. I looked. JC Mary moved. She went to another place yesterday then again. So I look more MB my characters. I do know the Venus one

Paris Island so he says Russia i get it check ok I love you too ok

Hera

The doggie will be fine I help her good and I mean crissy

Yeh lots on them the e Ike but ok still will be

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Olympus praise God good call

Thor

Yeh close one mo but yes fun now good, fun. And the Anglia good we do it stamp them he says fibreglass at first but a bolt up simple chassis new. Simple tores rims brakes shocks wish bone. Wants 4wheel independent easier in the back. True. Attach and done. Front wheel drive good. RTA glass w cage bolt up frame good cheap fast. We ck

Freya

I like it good idea bigger smarter fast light start w six cylinder light to mk easy fast run of the mill Chilton special Anglia replica almost true different. Sold as the ANGLIA YES GOOD

Thor

Intense o like it fast easy light cheap hood

Hera

Me too lol typo but yeh we use it here

Freya

Olympus it's a go. No but will be him president

I do it yes get ready start w glass he will buy one. A two door four seater bigger six yes good nice decent tires though nice

Ken

[honor-every-part-of-you]

S1E2 Complete Timestamp List

Here’s the next episode’s timestamps :) there’s some repetitive descriptions because I tag for moments that would sync well with a beat in a song like gunshots, footsteps, or breaking glass.

Also, I’m doing this in Kdenlive, and I can export a file format that is a lot more detailed than a text file. If anyone happens to want that, let me know and I’ll get the file to you.

0:00 Opening logo 0:21 cut to black 0:22 Recap 0:52 cut to black 0:55 Shell casings hitting the floor 0:56 Shell casing hits the floor 1:05 Will shooting at the range 1:05 Will shooting at the range 1 1:06 Will shooting at the range 2 1:07 Will shooting at the range 3 1:08 Will shooting at the range medcloseup 1:08 Will at the range 1 1:09 Will at the range 2 1:09 Will at the range 3 1:10 Will at the range 4 1:11 Will at the range 5 1:11 Range target being shot - badly 1:13 Will lowers gun and turns to flip switch 1:16 target begins to approach camera 1:18 Will turns back and is surprised by what he sees 1:20 GJH moving toward camera in place of target 1:22 Will begins to reload in a panic 1:23 closeup on W inserting a new clip 1:24 W hastily pulls back slide and aims 1:25 medcloseup on will shakily aiming and shooting 1:25 Will at the range 6 1:26 Will at the range 7 1:27 Will at the range 8 1:27 Will at the range 9 1:27 GJH cont to glide forward despite being hit repeatedly 1:30 Will continues to shoot 1:31 Will at the range 10 1:31 Will at the range 11 1:31 Will at the range 12 1:32 GJH approaches glidin into closeup focused on bullets hitting torso 1:34 Closeup on Will at the range 13 1:34 Closeup on Will at the range 14 1:34 Closeup on W's gun firing at the range 15 1:35 Closeup on W's gun firing at the range 16 1:35 GHJ gliding directly toward camera 1:35 Gunshot from camera's perspective aimed at GJH 17 1:35 Gunshot from camera's perspective at GJH 18 1:36 Closeup on Will firing directly toward the camera 19 1:36 Closeup on Will firing directly toward the camera 1:36 Closeup on Will firing directly toward the camera 20 1:36 Closeup on GJH gliding toward camera 1:37 Closeup on Will firing toward camera 21 1:37 Closeup on GJH staring directly into the camera 1:38 JC knocking on car window to wake up W sleeping in the car 1:49 W gets out of car in forest with police walking around 1:54 Text on screen: Chippewa National Forest Minnesota 2:01 J and W walking up to Hobbes cabin and pulling crime scene tape to go inside 2:17 J and W enter Hobbes cabin and begin to look around with flashlights 2:23 Pan over dead deer on butcher table 2:29 W continues to look around by flashlight in profile 2:34 Flashlight shows wolf head, pelts, and skulls on a dresser 2:35 J continues to examine in foreground, W starts to climb stairs in background 2:42 closeup to evidence tag on an antler switch focus to W topping the stairs in background and looking around 2:51 Wideshot of antler room with flashlights passing over it 2:54 W moves away from camera to show J looking creeped out 2:58 Medshot of window at back of antler room w walks into shot 3:03 W snarks about Evil Minds Museum, J argues that its educational 3:12 Med closeup on J saying there's still 7 bodies missing 3:15 W in antler room He was eating them 3:18 There had to be some parts he didn't eat J still lookinging concerned 3:20 Not necessarily 3:23 J - what if Hobbes wasn't eating alone? 3:25 Flashlight over W looking at blood on antlers in profile 3:27 J - it's a lot of work disappearing these girls pan to W in foreground 3:36 Medcloseup of J in shadow suggesting Abigail was involved 3:39 Will considering the possibility in shadow in profile 3:43 Cut to W's memory of Abi in hospital bed 3:48 Return to W asking if Abi is a suspect 3:55 J saying they've been interviewing house to house 3:59 W nods and crouches to return to antlers med wide shot in profile 4:01 J still in shadow Hobbs spent a lot of time with Abi in the cabin 4:06 W looking up at antlers wide eyed and beautiful 4:07 Will turns to profile light fades away, W insists GJH killed alone 4:12 J looks skeptical 4:14 Wideshot of W crouched among antlers 4:15 J realizes W isn't going to cooperate with Abi theory 4:18 Will crouched notices something wideshot in profile 4:20 W reaches into corner and finds curly red hair 4:34 Freddie sitting at motel desk barefoot, nude, wet hair, with towel draped on chair 4:43 Freddie, nude, stares at computer screen, med closeup 4:48 Freddie's computer screen scrolling through pictures of Hobbs cabin 4:51 Back to Freddie watching the screen then smiling 4:55 Posting In The Shrike's Nest on Tattlecrime 5:04 Freddie raises chin in triumph 5:07 Opening credits 5:27 Cut to black 5:29 Will puts on glasses, enters class to applause, asks to stop, pan in circle, asks if anyone sees the clue 6:03 student raise hands 1 6:04 students raise hands 2 6:05 W looking irritated, there isn't one, medcloseup 6:08 Bad bookkeeping and dumb luck wideshot with projection in background 6:16 W looks over shoulder to projection, enters memory 6:26 Will still sucks at putting pressure on a wound 6:28 Will shaking looking down at Abi covered in blood 6:29 W looking over shoulder at project - he looks so much like Adam 6:31 Will looks down away from projection, how to stop copycats, uncomfortable body language wideshot 6:42 W med closeup he's already got one admirer 6:46 W stands and turns to projection of CB tableau 6:50 Academy establishing shot timejump to end of class 6:54 Alana walks through exiting students to W 6:58 W ignores student wanting to ask a question then greets Alana medshot in profile 7:09 W says he had no idea, fantastically funny uncomfortable/ingratiating expression 7:12 Alana doesn't want W to be ambushed, J isn't amused 7:27 W doesn't want applause or a commendation 7:33 J and Alana - they've ok'd w to return to the field 7:38 W looks uncomfortable medcloseup 7:40 J and A J wants W back and recommends a psych eval 7:54 J and A facing W - I'm not going to be comfortable with anyone inside my head 8:00 J and Alana - you've never killed anyone before 8:04 J and A facing W - it's a lot to digest, W nods and scoots sideways - I used to work homicide 8:08 J and A - you didn't have the stomach to pull the trigger, W chuckles 8:13 J and Alana - you just pulled the trigger ten times 8:16 J and A facing W - the psych eval isn't a formality? 8:19 J and A - no it's so I can get some sleep at night 8:25 W thinks about getting too close medcloseup 8:28 J and A - how many nights did you spend in Abi's hospital room? 8:32 W getting defensive - therapy doesn't work on me - medcloseup 8:35 J looks exasperated at Alana 8:38 J approached W - because you won't let it 8:43 J - unlearn some tricks A- have a conversation with Hannibal 8:48 A - he knows what you went through - W takes off glasses at H's name 8:58 W in H's loft while H prepares his preemptive psych eval wideshot 9:15 medcloseup on H - more or less sane well done - smiling cheekily 9:17 Med wide shot up angle W - did you rubber stamp me 9:22 medwideshot on H downangle - our conversations can continue without paperwork 9:27 wideshot of H watching W walk along loft - J thinks I need therapy 9:33 H quarter profile looking up at W - you need a way out of dark places 9:38 W looking down walking along loft - last time he sent me to a dark place I brought something back 9:42 H looking down away from W - a surrogate daughter - operation babytrap is a go 9:44 W reacts with surprise and consternation to the idea of Abi being a daughter 9:45 You saved her and orphaned her, that comes with emotional obligations 9:57 H accept's W's unspoken invitation to mutual paternal obligation 10:07 W looks down on H processing H's acceptance of paternal obligation 10:09 H fantasized about giving abi a different fate 10:14 W nods in sympathy with the feeling, says J suspects Abi 10:22 H - How does that make you feel? 10:27 W - how does it make YOU feel? 10:29 I find it vulgar - me too 10:32 and entirely possible 10:34 it's not what happened 10:37 J will ask her or have one of us ask her 10:39 is this therapy or a support group? 10:42 H smiles and looks engaged with W challenging him 10:46 W looks frustrated 10:50 The mirrors in your mind can reflect the best of yourself 10:53 W looking intensly at H - not the worst of someone else 10:58 boys hiking through forest - text on screen Elk Neck State Park 11:05 boys hiking front angle 11:11 boys notice tubing in tree, vertical pan 11:21 boys think it's mj 11:30 zoom in on mushroom person's hand 11:32 boys realize what they're seeing 11:38 tracking shot backwards revealing mushroom garden 11:57 cut to black 12:00 Bev walking along gun range booths to W 12:04 Will at range 22 12:05 Will at range 23 12:06 Will at range 24 12:06 Will at range 25 12:07 Will at range 26 12:08 Behind W aiming at target 12:08 Will shooting target 27 12:08 Will shooting at target 28 12:09 Will shooting at target 29 12:09 target being shot 1 12:10 target being shot 2 12:11 W looks at target and pulls off ear protection (the only time he does is when he's about to be spoken to) 12:14 Bev approaches W - says he doesn't need to qualify on weapons to teach 12:19 W moves counter to get target 12:21 B - back in the saddle -ish 12:24 W removes target 12:27 B says Z wanted to gift the bullets from GJH - closeup up angle 12:33 w pulls counter back in place 12:36 B suggested one of those clackin swingin ball things 12:48 W shoots with B 30 12:48 W shoots with B 31 12:48 target hit in the navel 12:51 w frustrated b suggests isosolese stance 12:59 B puts hand on W's shoulder - you are tight 13:01 W and B both got stabbed, but no lead in pencils 13:11 closeup on B helping with recoil 13:14 W shoots again with B's advice 13:17 W shoots with B 32 13:17 W shoots with B 33 13:18 target gets shot in 7 8 and 9 ring 13:20 W and B remove ear protection 13:23 W and B bring in target 13:26 W asks B you come here to teach me to shoot? nope gardening 13:34 W looks confused 13:37 closeup on mushroom person thigh and hand 13:39 mushroom person feet wtih evidence markers 13:41 mushroom person torso and head almost unrecognizable 13:43 birds eye view of mushroom people being removed by coroners 13:50 mushroom person's face being peeled off 13:53 B kneeling looking down looking mildly perturbed by face peeling 13:56 J and W walk through trees to crimescene saying therapy worked 14:11 wideshot of TSS working on mushroom people 14:17 W and J looking at mushroom people 14:21 TSS working on mushroom people 14:25 wideshot of Jimmy summarizing crime scene 14:29 medshot of Jimmy - very well fertilized 14:31 medwideshot B - buried in high nutrient compost 14:35 wideshot on TSS B - enthusiastically encouraging decomp 14:37 W and J looking Z - they were buried alive 14:39 z - he wanted them alive for a little while 14:42 J looks at W 14:48 wideshot TSS explains feeding tubes 14:54 W and J - W no restraints? 14:56 z crouching and shrugging 14:58 Jimmy - just dirt 14:59 J and W 15:01 wideshot B points out air system 15:05 camo umbrella on tree 15:07 B smiling - he isn't lazy 15:09 W and J - no he's not 15:14 wideshot of TSS B - find any shitakes? 15:22 W and J in profile - welcome back 15:28 TSS leaves W alone with the mushroom people wideshot 15:32 Freddie looks at scene with shifty expression 15:35 Freddie sneaks pictures of scene 15:40 Wideshot of Freddie claiming to be a parent to a detective 15:48 medcloseup detective says boys were brave 15:51 F and detective - you a local? 15:55 medshot of F and detective - can I ask a few things? 16:03 W alone at tableau, F asking detective about him 16:08 F draws a bead on W 16:13 W standing in tableau looking off into distance 16:18 mushroom people all lined up 16:20 Will takes a deep breath and closes eyes 16:30 cut to black 16:31 pendulum swings 16:35 W opens eyes to pendulum time 16:40 W starts walking backward from mushroom people 16:44 W backing away from mushroom people 16:47 mushroom people are reintered and mushrooms restablish 16:50 W cont backing away 16:55 mushrooms ungrow 16:57 fungus retreats 16:59 W still backing away 17:01 dirt raises off new grave 17:03 dirt returns to shovel 17:05 pendulum reverses body being buried 17:08 W closes eyes in profile 17:11 cut to black 17:14 X closeup W opens eyes 17:19 W stands over graves wideshot off center 17:22 W closes mouth, turns away closeup off center 17:23 W shoveling compost onto grave, shot from waist down 17:30 Dirt coming off the shovel 17:32 dirt falling onto grave 17:34 corpse covered up to shoulders 17:37 W cont narration, turns back to keep shoveling 17:40 corpse from the side 17:41 closeup on another shovelful of dirt 17:44 W looking down as he works on body closeup in profile 17:46 closeup of W imserting breathing tube 17:49 W realizing ES doesn't need the victim's fear 17:54 W happy as he gets the body situated 17:55 body with complete breathing tube 17:55 closeup on W attaching the feeding tube to body's hand 17:57 this is my design 17:59 W looks down to body, looks startled 18:00 GJH is in the grave instead of real victim 18:03 W tries to shake off hallucination of GJH 18:05 W kneeling by mushroom person wideshot 18:06 Freddie is focused on watching W 18:11 W begins to come out of trance 18:13 mushroom person grabs W jumpscare 18:14 W frightened by being grabbed 18:15 Mushroom person moving minutely 18:16 F and Detective, F looks excited 18:17 W looks down at mushroom person, twitchy 18:19 mushroom person's jaw works 18:20 J looks horrified 18:22 W stands up from mushroom person, closeup looking down in profile 18:24 emt runs to body, w quietly freaks out 18:26 F and detective watch 18:27 wideshot emts crowd around body 18:31 closeup of W returning H's certification paper 18:35 H looks up at W - what did you see? 18:41 W reluctantly says Hobbs med wide shot on both 18:46 medwideshot of W saying he SAW GJH 18:51 H - Did you tell Jack? 18:54 W - No 18:56 H gulps at that, then shrugs off incident as stress 19:00 W circling H at desk looking back at him 19:04 H - GJH could arguably be your victim 19:07 W - I don't consider Hobbs my victim 19:09 H - what do you consider him? 19:13 W - Dead 19:15 H - Is it harder to imagine the thrill of killing now? 19:25 W reluctantly nods and gives small smile at the understanding 19:33 H - small comisserating nod, looks away, changes subject 19:39 H walks around desk to W talking about the crime scene medwideshot 19:50 W - ES was practical H - cultivating them? 19:55 W - the bodies weren't crops they were fertilizer for the fungus 20:05 fungus mirrors the connections of the human brain 20:11 W - he admires their ability to connect (will looks so pretty sometimes holy cow) 20:16 H - yours can, W laughs and H grins in return 20:21 W laughs - Not physically 20:24 H - is the farmer looking for connection? 20:30 W looks up at H with sudden interest 20:32 closeup of F holding  recording device to H's office door 20:37 H walking to his office door 20:39 F hastily packs away recording equipment, H invites her in, medwideshot 20:54 cut to black 20:55 F walks into office looking impressed, H follows behind, wideshot 21:02 F out of focus in foreground, H listens to her intro 21:04 F turns back to H cont lies, med wideshot 21:08 H looks amused by lies - medwideshot 21:12 F give fake smile - it's more or less a bakeoff 21:13 H - very supportive of bakeoffs 21:19 F more fake smiles 21:24 H still amused, getting over it though 21:30 F deflects and asks to ask questions 21:33 F - mention's H's paper on social exclusion 21:39 H finally cuts the BS - are you Freddie Lounds? 21:44 F caught off guard 21:48 H - this is unethical I must ask for your bag 22:00 F - What? 22:02 H - Your bag, very seroius face 22:04 H - please hand it over 22:07 H - I'd rather not take it from you 22:09 F takes her bag off her shoulder 22:11 F hands over her bag 22:15 H opens F's bag 22:17 F - I was recording our conversation 22:20 H - Ours? Yours and mine? 22:22 F - yes 22:28 H - you were very persistant about your appointment time 22:32 F - also recorded WG 22:37 H - how did you know when? 22:39 F - I can't answer 22:42 H turns and walks away 22:45 F watches confused 22:47 H goes to sit on sofa with F's purse 22:49 F resentfully complies 22:52 H - delete the conversation, you've been terribly rude 23:15 H - what's to be done about that? 23:21 F looks scared and angry 23:23 H pouring a red sauce over slices of white meat and veggies on plate 23:30 J asks what kind of loin 23:32 H - pork 23:35 J - I don't get many homecooked meals 23:39 H dons dinner jacket while listening to J 23:44 J - I did marry my mother 23:46 H smiles - your mother didn't cook? 23:52 J - I wish she didn't 23:53 J cutting into pork loin 23:55 J's mom made "oriental noodles" 23:58 H eats and listens 24:02 J was very thin as a youngster 24:05 J cuts more pork loin 24:07 H - bring your wife 24:10 J, oblivious - thank you 24:13 H tiny smile at J enjoying his food 24:17 J - why did WG come back to see you? 24:19 H - he needs his own support structure, medcloseup full profile 24:22 J thinks W knows his own mind and doesn't want anyone else to 24:30 H - are you not accustomed to broken ponies? 24:33 J - you think W is a broken pony? 24:35 H - I think you think it 24:37 J looks like he's agreeing, says he's lost people in the field 24:49 H - do you trust W or are you afraid of losing another? 24:52 J - I've already had my psych eval 24:56 H - not with me 25:02 J looks up through his lashes and smiles 25:04 H smiles and raises wineglass 25:06 J laughs nods and says alright 25:11 H and J toast and drink their wine 25:17 Camera enters lab to see W standing with TSS around a mushroom person 25:24 TSS explains the details of the farm graves 25:38 TSS talking about mushrooms loving sugar water 25:47 mid wide shot of TSS - Alcoholics love sugar, gut microbes ferment it - Jimmy isn't recovering 25:52 W walking back to table sugar and alcohol cont 25:56 medshot of Z and Jimmy - friends helping friends really 25:58 W it's not just alcoholics who have compromised endocrine systems 26:00 Z and Jimmy look toward side 26:02 med wide shot W joins TSS - they all died of kidney failure? 26:05 J and Z nod waiting for W to cont 26:07 W medcloseup off center profile - death by diabetic ketoacidosis 26:09 TSS - did you know they were diabetic? 26:12 med shot off center W scowls and shakes head - they're all diabetic, he induces comas 26:14 medshot Z and Jimmy look skeptical next to mushroom person 26:17 B framed similarly to W facing opposite - how are they inducing comas? 26:19 W - medcloseup off center W says killer is changing their meds 26:23 Z and Jimmy nod 26:24 B medcloseup centered facing W - summarized killer's procedure 26:28 Z and Jimmy - we dug up his mushroom garden 26:32 W behind Z and Jimmy - killer's going to want to start a new garden 26:36 medwide shot - Z and Jimmy watch W leave 26:38 blue and white pills on a rotating machine - bird's eye view 26:40 blue and white pills sliding down a metal chute 26:41 blue and white pills drop into a clear canister 26:43 cute blonde walks up to a counter in a large store - picking up perscription 26:51 closeup on blonde in profile, confirms divorce 26:55 medshot of pharmacist in front of blonde, confirms insulin perscription 26:57 back of pharmacist walking toward medicine shelves - claims to catch a mixup 27:03 closeup of blonde in profile saying Uh Oh 27:05 closeup of medicine bottles being removed from a fridge 27:11 pharmacist puts incorrect bottle into paper bag 27:14 closeup of paper bag being put down on the counter 27:15 medshot of blonde smiling and taking the paper bag 27:17 medcloseup of pharmacist asking for signature 27:20 medcloseup of blonde signing 27:22 slow zoom on blonde and pharmacist confirming adress 27:27 blonde smiling at pharmacist, taking bag and walking away 27:31 pharmacist looks around and checks paperwork 27:36 cut to black 27:37 medshot of pharmacist assisting another customer 27:42 swat team crossing in front of industrial doors saying Pharmacy 27:47 swat team running in front of doors 27:49 pharmacist looking down saying thank you 27:50 customer smiles and turns away 27:52 swat team crosses in front of pallets in dark storage area 27:54 swat teams approached through dark storage area - J explains logic of finding this pharmacist 28:00 J and W - second to disappear from this location 28:02 swat enters store proper 28:05 J and W walk through cold aisle, still discussing finding the pharmacist 28:07 J and W walking through cold aisle as civilian gets on knees and raises hands 28:10 closeup of hands stapling paper bag closed 28:12 J and W still in the cold aisle 28:14 J and W exit cold aisle and round corner behind SWAT J yells for everyone to stop and raise hands 28:22 J shows badge and announces name 28:24 med shot of random pharmacists J asking for Elden Stammits 28:25 pharmacist at counter tells J ES was just there 28:27 med shot of W standing back listening - is his car still in parking lot? 28:30 pharmacist and J look back, J repeats (shouts) question 28:35 wide shot of pharmacist, J, W, and swat running back past industrial doors - W asks for baton 28:40 med wide shot of W preparing to break car's window 28:42 W breaks car window with baton 28:43 med closeup of W pulling shattered glass out of window 28:46 W reaches in car and pops trunk 28:47 wide shot of trunk opening W reacting to bad smell 28:51 closeup of large amount of compost in trunk of the car, blonde pulled up out of dirt with breathing mask on 28:58 upshot of W shouting that she's alive J approaches with covered nose 29:03 return to blonde in dirt 29:04 J and W bent over trunk as EMTs approach, J says they know ESs address and have his car 29:17 Jimmy approaches J and says they checked ES's browsing history 29:25 B looking down at a computer in the pharmacy 29:27 Jimmy J and W walk back to pharmacy 29:29 Z - Freddie Lounds, J - tattlecrime.com 29:32 W looks down looks mildly startled by computer 29:34 medshot B J and W B reads tattlecrime article accusing W of being a psycho 29:35 closeup on tattlecrime website reading Takes One To Know One 29:38 Z listening to B reading 29:40 B doesn't want to keep reading 29:43 W listening to B reading 29:46 B protests its about W and F goes into a lot of detail 29:48 W B and J B stops reading, J curses 29:51 W looks uncomfortable and upset 29:55 zoom in on wideshot of H reading tablet in his office 30:03 closeup of tattlecrime article on H's tablet, pan up to H calling F naughty 30:14 F standing at the sink in her motel room, knock at the door, F looks up into mirror, turns 30:20 wobbling zoom toward door as knocking continues 30:22 F leans to close computer and asks who's at the door 30:26 Police burst into F's motel door 30:27 F looks scared, jumps backward 30:27 Female cop grabs F, throws her facedown on bed (i get why they got a female cop for that) 30:28 F falls facedown on bed 30:29 cops kneel on F's backside pull out zipties 30:31 closeup of F's hands being ziptied 30:33 Z walks into the room looking concerned and cautious 30:37 cops pull F up from the bed 30:38 closeup of F's curls as cops push her to sitting on the bed, F looks frustrated and irritated 30:41 med wideshot J walks in and stands in front of F looking down on her 30:47 medcloseup downangle on F looking beligerent saying he can't arrest her for writing an article 30:49 medwideshot J - you entered a crime scene, F - escorted, J - under false pretense 30:54 F - its as good as permission 30:56 medshot of J looking down on F's curls - you lied to a police officer 30:59 F - you can't arrest me for lying 31:02 J asks where she got her info 31:09 closeup on J in profile, focus shift to Z in the background 31:12 F shrugs and says lots of people talk about W 31:15 med closeup of Z looking cautious 31:18 F makes excuses, looks toward Z 31:21 Z still watching F cautiously, looks toward J 31:25 J - your article let a murderer escape 31:30 F looks weirded out as J collects one of her hairs with a pair of tweezers 31:31 Jack looks like he's having fun making F uncomfortable yanking out a hair 31:40 F looks worried as J explains that she contaminated crime scenes 31:46 J tells F he can indict her for obstructing justice 31:52 F says she'd appreciate it if J didn't arrest her 31:58 J says leave W alone and he won't 32:00 medwideshot as J stands back up out of F's space 32:03 closeup on F looking disgusted and irritated as she watches J leave 32:05 med wide shot Z walks forward and kneels on bed by F 32:09 closeup on F looking put out and uncomfortable as Z cuts her loose and whispers "you used me" 32:14 closeup on W in profile sitting silently in a dark room 32:20 abigail hobbs lies in her hospital bed 32:26 medcloseup of W straight on, staring silently 32:32 W in profile turns to see ravenstag walk past the door 32:36 closeup on W staring toward the door 32:38 closeup of a woman's feet in heels walking in hospital corridor 32:42 medshot of W asleep on a sofa arm 32:45 woman removes her heels in doorway 32:49 light comes on to W sitting up on the sofa, stands up and walks to door with no woman 32:58 W walks into frame in dark corridor looking to the side with worried expression 33:02 ravenstag walking away from W in dark corridor 33:04 Alana walks past sleeping W and picks up blanket 33:08 closeup on W as Alana puts blanket over him 33:11 W in dark corridor staring toward ravenstag - kubrick stare 33:14 lights in corridor go dark toward W 33:16 lights in front and on W go dark, light behind his head stays on 33:19 closeup on W asleep beginning to stir, opens his eyes 33:24 Alana sitting on Abi's bed reading aloud 33:27 W looks soothed, asks Alana what she's reading 33:31 Alana turns to look at W 33:33 medshot of W still lying on sofa arm 33:36 Alana smiles softly, tells W about Flannery O'Connor 33:43 medshot of W lying on sofa, nodding 33:46 medcloseup on Alana - they're really stupid birds 33:49 W - you could be reading to a killer 33:57 Alana smiles without eye contact, broaches subject of article 34:05 W stirs further and asks if it's J's idea 34:09 Alana - no, I sent me 34:13 W - we've never been alone 34:22 A - I haven't noticed 34:26 W - yeah right, sits up, salmon shirt rumpled 34:33 Alana - we don't need to talk about it 34:38 W - we can talk about whatever you want, attempts ingraciating smile 34:43 Alana blinks patiently 34:47 W - I was enjoying listening to you read 34:50 A - Abi is a success for you 34:58 closeup on rumpled W looking sad 35:01 Abi in hospital bed behind Alana 35:04 W still sad - it doesn't seem like sucess 35:08 Alana - don't feel sorry for yourself because you saved her 35:11 W rubbing eyes saying he doesn't feel sorry for himself, he feels good, then looks worried about that 35:32 Cream swirling into coffee, slight zoom out to F's hand grabbing the cup 35:52 F exits motel door drinking coffee, sees something, walks down motel stairs, pan to local detective from mushroom scene 36:05 F walks down stairs, Det says she didn't get her info from him 36:13 downshot on det in corner of frame - they think I told you all 36:15 F gets to bottom of stairs with obnoxious smirk, apologizes 36:23 Det - I wasn't fired 36:26 You will be 36:28 Det looks frustrated and resigned, 36:33 F offers to get him a new job 36:37 Det realizes she's gotten other cops fired before 36:44 F says security pays better, future det is thanking me 36:47 bird's eye view of ES walking up and shooting the det in the head 36:49 F gets blood spattered and looks shocked 36:51 ES says he read F's article 36:54 bloodspattered F looks up horrified at ES 36:58 cut to black 37:00 wideshot of cops tagging the det murder scene, zoom out to J behind the tape 37:09 wide shot J looking over at F's call and coming over with concern 37:18 closeup on F with 1000 yard stare asking about W 37:24 J shouting to find W 37:29 F explaining ES talking about fungus 37:32 J looking weirded and skeptical 37:34 F saying ES wants someone who understands him 37:40 J looks confused 37:42 W was right ES want connections 37:45 J - what did you tell him 37:47 F looks reluctant, says she told ES about Abi 37:56 J - what did you tell him 37:58 F - everything 38:00 J listens to F say ES want to help W connect with Abi 38:04 F - he's going to bury her 38:06 ES enters hospital corridor 38:13 ES walking through corridor with people in background, enters staff only door 38:23 ES exits staff only door in scrubs 38:27 ES walks down corridor looking shifty, takes hospital bed 38:31 elevator door dings and opens to reveal W, phone rings, J says ES knows about Abi, W hangs up draws gun, keeps it down by his side, runs into corridor, camera rounds corner to reveal Abi missing 38:55 W realizes Abi's gone, backs out of room 38:58 W runs out of room to nurse's station to ask who took her 39:07 W impatiently asks who took Abi, nurse doesn't know 39:10 W runs down corridor with gun down by his side 39:14 Wide shot of ES wheeling Abi in gurney down empty corridor 39:15 Med wide shot of ES pushing Abi 39:16 Will bursts through door into stairwell 39:18 W runs down stairs 39:22 W runs into empty corridor, sees ES 39:24 ES rapidly pushing Abi away down corridor 39:24 W shouts and raises gun 39:26 ES tries to turn Abi into side corridor 39:26 W aims gun (poorly) and shoots 39:27 ES is shot in shoulder, falls backward 39:28 wideshot of ES staggering and sliding down wall 39:31 Will lowers gun with stressed expression 39:36 wideshot of W (with gun still up) approaching ES and kicking his gun away (not very far away) and putting himself between ES and Abi's gurney, reaches behind himself to check Abi's pulse 39:43 medcloseup of W in profile asking what ES was going to do with Abi 39:46 wideshot of Will aiming one handed while ES explains we evolved from mycelium 39:51 medshot of Will aiming down at ES - by burying her alive? 39:53 Med wide on ES - the journalist said you understand me 39:55 closeup on W angry and sad - I don't 39:57 closeup on ES - you would have, if you walk through mycelium they know you are there 40:06 mold growing 40:08 more mold - reverse of earlier shot 40:10 more mold 40:13 closeup on ES - I know who youre reaching for 40:16 W still angry and sad 40:19 ES - you should have let me plant her, she could have reached back 40:27 W looking disturbed 40:36 W standing facing away from H out of focus in background, W looks haunted - it wasn't Hobbs, killing a bad man feels good, killing Hobbs felt just 40:52 flashback to W shooting Hobbs 40:53 flashback of Hobbs flailing backwards while being shot 40:54 W in fron of H, sprig of zest, you didn't kill ES, thought about it (considering his crappy aim, it was possible) H calls W's gift beautiful - giving voice to the unmentionable 41:34 wide shot of W and H in H's office, W - should have stuck with boat motors, H - a motor is a predictable problem 41:46 med shot of will in profile, W - you're supposed to be my paddle 41:47 H sitting opposite W, I am 41:50 W listening to H say it wasn't the act of killing GJH that got him down 41:55 Closeup on H looking sympathetic, did you really feel so bad because killing him felt so good? 42:01 W, scared and sad, gasps 'I liked killing Hobbs' 42:08 H leans forward - killing must feel good to God too, and are we not created in his image? 42:18 W crowded into corner of the frame by H - depends who you ask 42:24 closeup of H in profile - god's terrific, he dropped a roof on his worshippers 42:30 W - did God feel good about that? 42:32 H, full abyssal pit mode - He felt powerful 42:36 W having an existential crisis 42:43 cut to black 42:44 end credits 43:10 Lionsgate Logo 43:12 Living Dead Guy Logo 43:14 AXN logo