#is it cheating if i traced the original photo just for a sketch of the pose? everything else was me so idk lol

[ineffable-romantics]

Almost Kiss

1941 pt. 3

(Photo inspo below)

Mansfield Park (1999)

[knitbyknives]

Posting all these references and advanced techniques is great. Learning a lot. But I'm self taught and haven't drawn in such a long time... What I really need to do is to learn and practice the fundamentals and I really don't want to.

Currently I allow fudging and cheating past the hated bits simply to get unstuck. Picking non-serious subjects like inserting OCs into memes, doing studies or redraws.

Roughly tracing a general outline of an image with thick digital crayon that obscures all detail, hiding the original image layer and making myself sketch the image again using only the clumsy sweeping shapes as a guide.

Sketching a rough original with the giant crayon, sketching over it, then over it again into a final draw.

Or (if it's for a meme) just straight up tracing the large bits that don't matter like a background or a shirt posture.

It unblocks, it's a form of play and learning the program, it takes the pressure off, I learn, it seems there's potential there when the finished image looks good. But it feels like cheating. As soon as the basics get faced... as soon as a real effort to improve is made? The quality could seriously drop and morale with it.

I have actually done redraws and studies without any of that in traditional art so I know I can do it, but it was instinctive. I didn't break it down into neat shapes. No anatomy. It was done by eye and 'what looked right'.

It's like... I did sketch that unaided, I even took photos of the progress, but don't actually remember how? It would be smarter to go back to the basics I never got taught, learn the tried and true ways to confidently sketch figures and anatomy rather than just do it on guesswork. I need to actually learn the fundamentals.

Especially if I want to combine different references into a coherent new whole. Because I have so many ideas for original compositions. My own concepts.

I just have all this weird anxiety, these paralyzing hangups and blocks. Can't practice consistently. Attempts and practice to do better look so so bad.

I also know it's best to learn technique via traditional art but disability sucks and it's hard to sit up for long, make the smooth sweeping movements with my arm, get propped up and have the tilted lap table positioned at the right height.

I can't draw lying flat on my back so it's most often hunched over phone lying on side... Posture is non existent. Digital art on a tiny phone screen encourages small repetitive wrist movements that cause pain and having technology form the circle for you means I don't learn.

But we persist. I even bought a 'drawing manga' kit just to take it right back to the level of a child so I don't have to take it seriously or be afraid of it. Just speedrun the drawings, use up cheap shitty art supplies filling a crappy disposable sketch pad with junk sketches, rolling my eyes the whole time as I train muscle memory, learn proportions and iron out bad habits. If I can stick to it.

I don't understand why I have so much anxiety and so many hangups around a hobby I'm "good at" and want to do...

Guess along with my physical health my mental health and anxiety levels are currently just eating me alive.

[not-xpr-art]

Art Advice #3 - Drawing tips!

Hi everyone!

As you may know, every week or so I’m writing blog posts with art advice hints and tips for artists of any skill level in the hopes of helping some people out a bit! The tag is here so feel free to check out some of my other posts!

This week’s post is going to be some drawing tips I’ve picked up over the years that could hopefully be useful for beginner artists! 

(this is about 1800 words altogether btw)

Drawings tips!

I’m going to split this post up into little sections which will hopefully make it easier for you to scroll to find certain advice you’re particularly interested in!

Part 1 - How to get started?

I’m a firm believer that anyone can be an artist, regardless of what materials or equipment they have. So when it comes to my advice on what kind of materials I recommend for beginner artists, I’d mainly say ‘whatever you have’. 

But if that’s a bit vague, I’d essentially recommend you have a set of pencils which you can usually get relatively inexpensive online or in craft/art shops which range from 6B all the way to 6H (’B’ being for softer, darker pencils, often good for shading, and ‘H’ for the harder pencil leads which are best for much lighter shading or if you want a really faint sketch. Something important to note about ‘H’ pencils is not to press too hard with them since they’re a lot more likely to leave indents in the paper than ‘B’ pencils! For general sketching I personally use 2B or 3B pencils since they have the perfect balance of soft & hardness in my opinion!) 

Of course, you can just draw with whatever pens or pencils you already have, so definitely don’t feel you have to go out of your way to buy something new or expensive just because your favourite artists use a particular brand of pencil or pen... Of course, often higher quality pens or pencils (especially colouring pencils) will have better pigment payoff than the cheaper alternatives, but as someone who’s been using the same WHSmith pencils they got when they were a child, I definitely think that as long as you have something to draw with, you’re all set to produce masterpieces of your own!

A lot of my art education got us using charcoal for a lot of our drawing practise. It’s not a medium I’m particularly fond of personally, but it is a great way to practise being a lot quicker and expressive with drawing, so definitely if you’re up for the challenge you can try some charcoal stuff! Only piece of advice is that I wouldn’t really recommend those ‘charcoal pencils’ you can buy in some shops, since they mostly just break apart every time you try and sharpen them... Regular charcoal is messy, though, and smudges very easily, so if you are interested in using it I’d say to do a little bit of research before hand! 

(Or feel free to send me an ask if you want any further advice on using it!)

If you’re wanting to get into digital art, I’m planning on making a post discussing my tips for beginners to digital so... keep an eye out for that in the near future lol!

~

Part 2 - Getting over ‘Drawing Anxiety’

Drawing can be a daunting thing, particularly when artists who are already pretty good at it can seemingly produce a perfectly proportioned face out of thin air. But these artists weren’t magically born with this skill, of course, so with practise and some perseverance, I can assure you that you’ll be at that stage one day!

So my first piece of advice here is to be patient with yourself. Don’t expect yourself to be perfect straight away. 

Second piece of advice is to sketch constantly!! I notice a lot of people who haven’t been drawing long are really careful about how they draw, almost like they’re afraid to be rough with the pencil. So I’d really recommend just starting to sketch a lot: be rough, be messy, draw things you can see and things from your imagination! 

Observational drawing is another thing I think is crucial in improving your drawing skills (and I’ll go into more detail with this in a bit), but honestly just sketching things you like is such a great way to help you grow as an artist! And yes this includes drawing anime fanart or drawings of your original characters! 

Below is some comparisons of my attempts at drawing Freema Agyeman from 2013 to 2019... Is the latest version of this perfect? Of course not. But I just want to show what constant practise can achieve!

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Part 3 - Observational drawing

I honestly think that observational drawing was one of the most important things I learnt in my years of art education. 

Observational drawing can take on many meanings. Perhaps it’s drawing a still life of a fruit bowl, or a life drawing class with a naked dude in front of you, or even drawing from a photo. The point of observational drawing is to improve how you translate the world around you onto a 2D surface, essentially. 

And you don’t need anything fancy to do observational drawing either! Just placing an array of things in front of you and trying to sketch them (try and focus on a mix of textures and surfaces for the objects. So, for example, including a cup along side a woolly hat will help you get a handle on how to create texture with your drawing, and drawing anything with a reflective surface like cutlery is both challenging and interesting to do! Basically just use what you have around you!)

If you’re lucky (or unlucky, depending on how fond you are of seeing naked people lol) enough to have the chance to do life drawing, I would honestly recommend it! Often the final results aren’t great, but it’s a really good way of practising your observational skills! And even if you don’t have the opportunity, just trying to sketch a friend or family member from across a room, for example, is something that can really help you improve! 

Top tip: a teacher once told me that when you’re drawing something like a face, for example, a way to improve how you draw is to see the face not as a ‘face’, but instead as a collections of shapes. Because our brains have a preconceived idea of what a face looks like that we end up drawing what we think we can see rather than what we can actually see! 

There’s a lot of art snobs who believe that drawing from reference images is ‘cheating’ in comparison to life drawing, Of course, this is bs, and I’d say I’ve learnt just as much from using reference photos for the basis of my art as I have from drawing from ‘real life’. For more information about my thoughts on references and how to use them, see This post!

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Part 4 - Drawing from references: Tracing, Grids and Freehand (which is best?)

Tracing in the world of art is a ... Contentious subject to say the least. And I’m not really interested in getting into the ‘moral’ implications of whether it is ‘cheating’ or not.

Instead I want to focus on the pros of using something like tracing when you’re starting out. I think particularly if you’re trying to improve how you shade things, colour things or how to get better at blending, then I do think that tracing can be a useful tool! Even I used tracing in the very start of my delve into digital art, but soon found that tracing wasn’t really something that was helping me in the long run so moved onto freehand stuff. 

Overall, I think tracing is good as a starting point when you’re still learning about art, and also if you’re not too comfortable with your freehand drawing skills yet. I’d also recommend you mention if you have traced a piece if you share art to social media. Of course, no one is obligated to do this though! 

This is an example of an artwork that I traced (it’s from 2013, hence why it looks... like That lol)

But if you’re someone who perhaps has used tracing in the past and found it doesn’t really work for you, or if you don’t want to start with tracing at all, then a good ‘next step’ I’ve seen other artists get into is using grids. 

Now I have to admit, I’m not the best person to talk about grids since I’ve actually never used them lol... But I know a lot of artists who do, particularly people who do a lot of traditional work, since it makes it a lot easier to translate the reference image to your piece of paper or canvas. 

And in a way I would recommend grids more for people starting out in drawing than tracing, and this is mainly due to the fact grids force you to use a lot more observational drawing skills than tracing! If you’re interested in getting into using grids I’d recommend doing a bit of research yourself! 

The final technique of drawing from references I want to talk about is freehand! Now this is the one I’ve been doing for the majority of my art ‘career’ and honestly is probably the most ‘difficult’ to do of the three techniques. 

But I find freehand drawing particularly rewarding with the ways it can make you reimagine an artwork in ways you never intended! Like what I mentioned in my Reference advice post, I have found that making ‘mistakes’ in freehand drawing can actually lead to more interesting and unique works of art than tracing or grid work could ever do! 

I also think that freehand allows you to create your own characters or concepts in a much more free way. For example, my Spirit of Somerset piece was something I created from a variety of references (I seem to remember I used Isak from SKAM’s mouth as a basis for the girls’ mouth?) and the dragon was based on a real mishmash of references, which is something that I I feel I couldn’t have done if I’d have been using grids or tracing!

With this I’m not trying to say that freehand is the ‘best’ way of drawing, it is just the one that I personally have found to fit me the best, which is the entire point of this post! All of my advice is just pointers I think could be useful for new artists, it is up to you to find which ‘path’ in art suits you best!

And of course, I’ve phrased these techniques as separate purely for the sake of explaining them easier, but the fact of the matter is that you can use a combination of these in your art if you wish! 

If you struggle with drawing the outlines of hands, perhaps use tracing as a way to get a handle of the shape and then maybe use freehand to fill in the colour of them! Use a grid to draw a tree but freehand the leaves and bench below it! 

Remember that your art is your art, and no one can tell you how to draw things! 

~

I think I’ll leave this here for now! But I may do a part two at some point in the future! & my ask box is always open for anyone who wants any specific advice!

I really hope you found this at least moderately helpful, and a massive thank you to everyone for the constant support of these posts and my art!

[tumblunni]

I like to try and explain digital art as...

This is a canvas.

This is paint.

This is a canvas and paint.

Digital art isn’t any less because it’s ‘just computers’, it isn’t some sort of magic program that makes the art for you automatically. It’s just a virtual space that mimics real life paint. Plus pencils and watercolours and all sorts of different art effects all in one place, including ones unique to the medium such as pixels or 3d modelling. All with more precise control over editing the colours and features of the brush you use. That’s the main appeal! That and also having an undo button, and being able to more easily send your art everywhere over the internet, yknow?

So, basically, your ‘art program’ cannot make anything for itself, it’s just a paintbrush. Digital artists put just as much effort into taking this spread of slightly more ethereal paintbrushes and turning them into art. So give them the respect they deserve!

Also, there’s a lot of neat stuff you can only do with digital art that might look kinda like ‘the computer just does it’ if you don’t understand all the steps the person took to actually draw the whole thing. For example, this entirely random cool photoshop edit I found on google, which has a wonderful tutorial here!

This image helps show the principle at work!

Think of photograph editing as.. well, someone literally cuts up some photographs and makes a collage. People did this even before computers, it’s the infamous source of many cryptid, alien and fairy “sightings!” But, again, it’s made easier in a virtual space and has many additional tools that couldn’t work with a physical piece of paper.

For example in this particular photo trick we have three pictures: this pretty island without a cliff underneath, a cliff from somewhere else, and a big ooky spooky halloween skull! The artist cuts out each photo, and the interface element called Layers symbolizes how you’d put those photo pieces on top of each other on your desk. Something on Layer 1 (or whatever you want to rename it) would be flat on the table, then Layer 2 is on top of it, and so forth. But the interesting thing that makes them different from real life collage is that there’s Layer Modes! Imagine if you could just flip a button and turn a normal piece of paper into tracing paper! O_O So that’s what the Multiply mode does in this particular example, and there’s many other modes that do other effects, like making a picture darker or lighter or doing a photo negative. Loads of fun! But here this person is using their semi-transparent tracing paper cutout of a cliff to make the skull look a little bit more like it’s made of rock. After this they’d manually paint in any extra details to make it look more realistic, and then use other elements of photo collage skill to add water effects and dramatic text, or whatever might pull the whole piece together. And then you have the very cool movie poster image of a beautiful island hiding an ominous secret!

Though I can understand why people might see this as ‘cheating’, since it saves a lot of time and has better results than like.. hand painting over your collage using a projector displaying the second image, cos you simply can’t do semi transparent layers in real life. But it’s still not like this particular type of virtual creation took no effort, and digital art in general isn’t easier just because this one small thing is easier. Plus, honestly, this level of photomanipulation is mostly used for silly comedy and making movie posters look better. Or drawing your friend riding a dragon as a fun christmas gift! Like any art form, the better results require more skill. Really complicated results require things like HUNDREDS of layers of pictures all smashed together, extreme painting skills and deep understanding of light and perspective to make them look like they all really happened at the same time. I think that photomanips in particular only get derided as ‘fake art’ because the basic result by a total beginning looks comparatively higher quality than beginner drawing. But I’m sure you all remember how you thought your drawings were high art as a kid, and then grew up to see all the flaws and think “Man, how did I ever miss that?” You kinda need at least a surface level knowledge of art in order to understand quality when you see it. Digital art is just a new medium to these people, so they don’t have that reference material established in their head so that they can fully appreciate the difference in effort between two pieces.

But it’s not impossible, and I’m sure someday people of both sides of the art world will be able to appreciate each other without this infighting! Besides, digital art benefits well from a background knowledge of drawing anatomy, line weight, shading, and all sorts of other things. It’s just sketching in a different dimension! And traditional art can also benefit from being scanned and transferred, and you can even restore the original versions of tarnished old paintings, without risk of damaging them! Though, I mean, it’s more like playing detective and guessing at possible interpretations? it’s still absolutely worth the effort to concoct newer and better oil residue removal solutions so that we can uncover the real paintings someday. (LOL I’M GOING OFFTOPIC A LITTLE) Plus there’s always loads of fun and really unique results when you combine digital and traditional methods! Personally i’m a huge fan of the aesthetic of real, scanned pencil lines with digital colouring, and I’m aiming to learn this and someday achieve success!

So yeah, that’s my kinda incoherant rambling digital art post, I guess XD thanks for reading, and may you have much luck in your art!

[mulattafury]

nuclearvampire

replied to your post

“u know what’s a nice thing to do when you’re in a bad art rut fucking...”

.....I'm allowed to do that? I mean not post it as mine, but.....just....trace and kind of let my hand learn the structure? Like....I always feel like I learn really well when I can watch someone else do it, and then figure out the whys and hows of what they did, but I didn't know I was allowed to straight-up trace different bits and study that way.....

you’re totally allowed to do that! ugh i wish i had a gif of favorite youtube artist borodante voguing while saying ‘do whatever you want’

but yeah, i see a lot of people reblogging or commenting here saying “yeah do that just don’t post it” and i’m like, um why not, who cares? if you’re worried about copyright stuff use free stock resources like pixabay or pexels. You can also go into “tools” on google images and filter your results to show only photos labeled for reuse -- I’ll make another post explaining how to do this.

tracing is a really good way to practice a lot of stuff. If you’re trying to learn to draw a specific object, it can help to trace shapes/construction lines over it to get an idea of its form. It’s a good way to practice steadying your hand to get good clean linework, and learning how to manipulate line weight to give your image depth (because a deadlined, traced image will look kinda shitty and flat). From there, you get a piece with nice, clean, solid lines to practice rendering various materials.

It’s a good practice method, and ultimately just another tool in your belt. Tracing in illustration is a great option for small, detailed, hard-surface objects that are easy to get “wrong” but add a lot to your image when you get them “right” -- things like weapons, cell phones/other small gadgets, food containers or wrappers. Tracing a pose is rarely a good idea but sketching a gesture over a pose can help when you’re stuck.

Like, for example:

(fullview on this post)

I traced the handaxe and the ibis (in fact, i traced half an ibis and mirrored it). i don’t think i traced the skull but it was heavily referenced.

here:

(original post)

traced the bow, and iirc i traced a gesture over a photo of someone drawing a bow

here:

(original post)

traced the machete

i’ve also traced shoes now and again, though it’s not something i do that much anymore. since i’ve gotten pretty good at drawing shoes. from tracing them.

also building environments in sketchup, even if it’s just boxes and cylinders to check your perspective/scale, and tracing/building on that, is a technique i’ve employed a lot. Especially for drawing the same environment from multiple angles. is there a comic you read that manages to have really accurate, detailed environments, and give you a really great sense of the location where the comic takes place?

they probably do this.

For example, I’m 99.999% sure that Coffee of Doom from QuestionableContent is a SketchUp model. It’s also a great reference for 3d models of things like cars and machinery.

in general, tracing (from photos!) isn’t “cheating” because it still takes skill and technique to make it look good. and if you’re proud of what you make go ahead and post it! it’s still work that you did and you’re allowed to be proud of it. i think it gets questionable when you’re misrepresenting fully traced work as your own, and it’s kind of a different ballpark when you’re tracing another artist’s illustrations without permission, but at the end of the day art is just about ripping stuff off anyway. :P

[thesnowdragon]

(Each photo has a caption on it that tells which movie it’s from)

It feels kinda silly to spam all these drawings in one post, but I suddenly felt an urge to just tell how much redrawing screenshots have helped me a decent amount over the years. Some of them I spent hours upon hours on, refining the lineart and details, while others I quickly sketched just to get it out of my head. But no matter how I choose to draw them, I still learn from it.

When I first began doing this, it felt like I was cheating. That the drawings I made from it felt fake and not deserving of any praise. That I had no reason to feel proud or happy with the results, since I would basically trace over most of the screenshot and keep the backgrounds from the movie itself. Even if I ended up adding some final touches and editing, myself.

But I tried to keep telling myself that it was alright and stay reminded of the main reason why I decided to make these in the first place. Not only is it a lot of fun and relaxing, but I eventually found out that it improved my art style and understanding how to set different moods and colors into my drawings. I got better at making more clean and small lines, how to even shade the characters without actually shading them, simply by choosing the right flat colors in the beginning.

I’m the kind of person that thinks it’s okay to trace over photos if you’ll be doing it to help yourself understand shapes and anatomy better. If it’s to learn new techniques or to simply get yourself out of an art block. Even if it’s to just relax. Although I do encourage people to use it simply for learning and not for your more finished and original pieces. Use it for quick studies.

My screenshot redraws may not get the same credit as my original work from neither myself or others, but simply by making them, I have grown even further as an artist.

You can see some examples of drawings I’ve made from scratch, where I used techniques I’ve learned from this method, under the cut.

[renatedagmarmilada]

PRINCE CHARLES AND MINISTER PRENDEGAST  IN LAB

Prince Charles was in the lab st barths Hum Res and on the scanner remote for treatment, that is why we rob /called reducing by lab Jews/ Fekete none stop using west indians and Syrians, who do not know anything about remote --

Guiana black woman Upperthorpe Roman catholic who sends her 20 yr old son robbing for stuff for the children as she spends all £360 weekly on herself on BRAND NEW DRESSES etc-- /saw her/ prostitutes a fair bit, well ok we all know that group all do../ pn scanner permanently---if they catch me for cheating we will just go back to Africa or somewhere else in Europe..

quote - lab st barths hum Res IMOGEN-- in the last 3 weeks, 7 men have wandered round your bedroom robbing stuff, clothes, in your wardrobes, everywhere.. robbing your front room-- all of them blacks and arabs.. living near by.. Wednesday Pakistani from Pagehall broke in and robbed /my UKRAINIAN dad's German Army Sollbuch and several other items/ BECAUSE HE HATES SLOVAKS???????????????????????? THEN GAVE SOME GYPSIES MY ITEMS? GYPSIES DON'T READ GERMAN VERY WELL AND THOUGHT IT WAS HER MAN'S...... MY DAD WAS UKRAINIAN????????????WHY??????????

Fish and Chips shop-- Upperthorpe.Sheffield. Abdul and Neseria, flats Upperthorpe.. tried to sell us your goods there, clothes, paintings etc..I WENT INTO FEKETE'S HOUSE UPPERTHORPE ON THURSDAY-- watched. these thieves are SO stupid that they do not seem to realise that if the door just opens remote, someone is watching them on a scanner and they stay on a scanner...for future use. THEY ARE TRULY STUPID gone silk jacket and sailing shirts from Spain /orig German/ white chines...

Bethany- lab st barths Hum Res. John's illeg daughter-- I sold 6 of Fekete's stolen shirts to a kitch shop, because I opened the doors of her home remote for local thieves.. I also sold 7 other items, art stuff mainly, artists blocks, paints etc

from lectures by Rabbi Rothchild and my mother's stories from home- we lived in the jewish quarter of Poszon, Milealska Uc -Paintings were to illustrate my numerous 'jewish poems' which have all been stolen along with the paintings--there are quite a few more illustrations on that topic, painted in Sheffield, London and Leipzig.

''what write it all again?'' Anna insists that all is shared out of Fekete's work repeatedly, as they sat on her for years, throughout University etc and halved her marks whilst adding sexual innuendos to everything, also all lecturers at all Unis and Colleges were on their scanner /cancers activated?/ Alyson, I have to do it for her- John Fielding board of Lab st barths Human Research, asked us to tear up these 70 paintings, as his daughter Faye used them for her MA ..and sold some of them to the jewish community.. rob some of her glasses, as she sees very badly--again

Minister Prendergast told -- as soon as Fekete dies, all work copied from her work will disappear. But the cheats will have made their names by then.. so they will be the winners.. it is all on a satellite- //flying over Niagara Falls.. Canada by helicopter -my present to myself on my 66th birthday- I don't treat myself with things, this is my sort of present.Canada is very cold in the winter by the way../

Alyson- I asked them to write a sitcom.. it is just slightly different to Fekete's story there, but only slightly. The Minister of health nor the State Minister Prendegast stops us. it was illegal to keep them in our prison and mess with them day and night since 1984//photo Writers Gp

IMOGEN operative-- yes it is very painful what we do to Fekete remote.It is like a truck sitting on your leg.. We have used it on the simples and they scream in pain. ANNA said that is why we should use the population, they just grin and bear it and the doctors cannot help. We have killed about 300 people in the population now.//happer times in China a few years ago

quote 8 am It is embarrassing a foreigner who can paint and write better than we can..and teach us our language, with hardly any schools, and with such a foreign name Plashet Rd back in 1995 macrosound-quote : look at you, small but perfectly formed. No bent anythings, even with your refugee background, you haven't seen us, with your clean living. --- ANNA time and again.. this is not unusual for the Brits, usually unsaid- at school, I came top in English very quickly /mothe...

quote- we have destroyed your total arteries in your body, by pressing remote. It squashes them ./now=top inner right leg-- last weeks left leg-- Meyer pressed arms endlessly, - John Fieldings dog Mohammad pressed chest arteries for months till I fled to China, pain horrendous// It flattens the artery. I am taking part so I have no need to talk. It is a remote concentration camp. Total destruction of healthy human beings by Human Research.

quote--Goldsmiths-- there is some good stuff coming out of the lab.. . No it is not their work, they have stolen thousands and thousands of the small Austrian teacher's art work and from years and years of writing, creatively and from several literature degrees, from her home, taken out of the post office, and in any way they could steal it.. it is Fekete's work, not theirs. They get a job for life with St barths Human research and will be placed into managerial positions immediately for tracing Fekete's work. Not one is college educated, not even GCSE- but all have a jewish father who was a lab staff member- or an unqualified doctor at the lab. it is the biggest rip off ever known to mankind.

Peter Ponsonby illeg son of Dr Meyer Edgeware Rd London, who was not really a doctor at all, only passed one exam, copied all SHEFFIELD PAINTINGS-- took cheque for +++++ I sent to China Bank januar 2016 out of post and gave it to him. Stuart, illeg son of Irwin Harry and Blanche of Finchley, I took one off lap top file and others, all originals stolen from home..part of our training is to hack into private laptops and bank accounts, council accounts, electricity accounts etc all companies .. we cannot be stopped.. State Minister Prendergast permits it.

ANGELINA, one of the 4 Poles used to copy Fekete work, given sketch books, join us and you are well paid and lots of benefits, otherwise you will be watched for life..Declined..//Polish contingent of Leipzig Uni Students..1993/

[renatedagmarmilada]

LONDON MET POLICE SUPERINTENDENT

Top POLICE SUPERINTENDENT London, was shown heavy porn film of JOAHNNA a friend of ANNA jun sec min of health /porn starlet/ made at BBC with director Sydney-- and told that was me /?/ mother of five 46 yrs old mature University student and artist, and it was a sex therapy using the whole country, killing throughout the country permitted by UNO -- to whom lab st barths Human Research did not give any true facts...

it is called maximising extreme therapy and is all unworkable stuff piled on and on.. ANNA jun sec Min of Health-- I always wanted to throw every offence at one person and see what they could do about it.. The horror of the british concentration camp..silent and unseen. Tory:== when the british government damages an innocent person, it is either very expensive for the government or very expensive for the person, in family's your cases , it is unfortunately terrible wipe-out expensive for you and yours.

Let's be honest - who doesn't love them!

quote-I don't have enough-- oh thank you .. emneti Syrian Thief family -Longley broke into my home again Thursday..I had a shipping order for her stuff..it was my chance to make some spare cash, at her age, what the hell does she know.. teachers and painters...

sweat smell we fed into Sheffield Somalians brains was from the lab jewesses, Margit sweats and they have their menopause-- so ... Fekete did not have one, as she took hormones. also Margit's vaginal smells as she sweats heavily. //these super rich, greedy jewish bitches can afford to have menopauses, I couldn't.. /

tv2pm-- after we have EQUALISED YOU..ah another British word for racketeering, organised theft, and remote torture of the worst kind.. by lab jews so cannot be admitted... hm

Quote --Parkwood school, Sheffield, KIRSHAN Hussein is a thief and a bad thief, /loiters outside of my home hours on end waiting for me to go out..as is his sister MIRAM Hussein... ALI off Rock street was a pretty bad thief, but this mob are much worse.. Nemeti-- Longley st is over here in Upperthorpe all the while looking to break in and thieve.. so called Syrian refugee.. with his friend Abdul and Neseria and her family and step son, in Upperthorpe .. Suleiman is a thief..and fence snitch.

Prince Charles was in the lab st barths Hum Res and on the scanner remote for treatment, that is why we rob /called reducing by lab Jews/ Fekete none stop using west indians and Syrians, who do not know anything about remote --

Guiana black woman Upperthorpe Roman catholic who sends her 20 yr old son robbing for stuff for the children as she spends all £360 weekly on herself on BRAND NEW DRESSES etc-- /saw her/ prostitutes a fair bit, well ok we all know that group all do../ pn scanner permanently---if they catch me for cheating we will just go back to Africa or somewhere else in Europe..

quote - lab st barths hum Res IMOGEN-- in the last 3 weeks, 7 men have wandered round your bedroom robbing stuff, clothes, in your wardrobes, everywhere.. robbing your front room-- all of them blacks and arabs.. living near by.. Wednesday Pakistani from Pagehall broke in and robbed /my UKRAINIAN dad's German Army Sollbuch and several other items/ BECAUSE HE HATES SLOVAKS???????????????????????? THEN GAVE SOME GYPSIES MY ITEMS? GYPSIES DON'T READ GERMAN VERY WELL AND THOUGHT IT WAS HER MAN'S...... MY DAD WAS UKRAINIAN????????????WHY??????????

Fish and Chips shop-- Upperthorpe.Sheffield. Abdul and Neseria, flats Upperthorpe.. tried to sell us your goods there, clothes, paintings etc..I WENT INTO FEKETE'S HOUSE UPPERTHORPE ON THURSDAY-- watched. these thieves are SO stupid that they do not seem to realise that if the door just opens remote, someone is watching them on a scanner and they stay on a scanner...for future use. THEY ARE TRULY STUPID gone silk jacket and sailing shirts from Spain /orig German/ white chines...

Bethany- lab st barths Hum Res. John's illeg daughter-- I sold 6 of Fekete's stolen shirts to a kitch shop, because I opened the doors of her home remote for local thieves.. I also sold 7 other items, art stuff mainly, artists blocks, paints etc

from lectures by Rabbi Rothchild and my mother's stories from home- we lived in the jewish quarter of Poszon, Milealska Uc -Paintings were to illustrate my numerous 'jewish poems' which have all been stolen along with the paintings--there are quite a few more illustrations on that topic, painted in Sheffield, London and Leipzig.

''what write it all again?'' Anna insists that all is shared out of Fekete's work repeatedly, as they sat on her for years, throughout University etc and halved her marks whilst adding sexual innuendos to everything, also all lecturers at all Unis and Colleges were on their scanner /cancers activated?/ Alyson, I have to do it for her- John Fielding board of Lab st barths Human Research, asked us to tear up these 70 paintings, as his daughter Faye used them for her MA ..and sold some of them to the jewish community.. rob some of her glasses, as she sees very badly--again

Minister Prendergast told -- as soon as Fekete dies, all work copied from her work will disappear. But the cheats will have made their names by then.. so they will be the winners.. it is all on a satellite- //flying over Niagara Falls.. Canada by helicopter -my present to myself on my 66th birthday- I don't treat myself with things, this is my sort of present.Canada is very cold in the winter by the way../

From Len Krawchuk: an article about Kupala. The title below is wrong; it should say June 24 (July 7).

Alyson- I asked them to write a sitcom.. it is just slightly different to Fekete's story there, but only slightly. The Minister of health nor the State Minister Prendegast stops us. it was illegal to keep them in our prison and mess with them day and night since 1984//photo Writers Gp

IMOGEN operative-- yes it is very painful what we do to Fekete remote.It is like a truck sitting on your leg.. We have used it on the simples and they scream in pain. ANNA said that is why we should use the population, they just grin and bear it and the doctors cannot help. We have killed about 300 people in the population now.//happer times in China a few years ago

quote 8 am It is embarrassing a foreigner who can paint and write better than we can..and teach us our language, with hardly any schools, and with such a foreign name Plashet Rd back in 1995 macrosound-quote : look at you, small but perfectly formed. No bent anythings, even with your refugee background, you haven't seen us, with your clean living. --- ANNA time and again.. this is not unusual for the Brits, usually unsaid- at school, I came top in English very quickly /mothe...

quote- we have destroyed your total arteries in your body, by pressing remote. It squashes them ./now=top inner right leg-- last weeks left leg-- Meyer pressed arms endlessly, - John Fieldings dog Mohammad pressed chest arteries for months till I fled to China, pain horrendous// It flattens the artery. I am taking part so I have no need to talk. It is a remote concentration camp. Total destruction of healthy human beings by Human Research.

From Richard Woloschuk comes this neo-pagan article about the Ukrainian vinok (floral garland), apropos for Kupala. The term "wreath" is used, but a vinok is a ...

the ladies who looked after the students were lovely..

Beijing-

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quote--Goldsmiths-- there is some good stuff coming out of the lab.. . No it is not their work, they have stolen thousands and thousands of the small Austrian teacher's art work and from years and years of writing, creatively and from several literature degrees, from her home, taken out of the post office, and in any way they could steal it.. it is Fekete's work, not theirs. They get a job for life with St barths Human research and will be placed into managerial positions immediately for tracing Fekete's work. Not one is college educated, not even GCSE- but all have a jewish father who was a lab staff member- or an unqualified doctor at the lab. it is the biggest rip off ever known to mankind.

sketch book round the city

walking round the city with a sketch book

Peter Ponsonby illeg son of Dr Meyer Edgeware Rd London, who was not really a doctor at all, only passed one exam, copied all SHEFFIELD PAINTINGS-- took cheque for +++++ I sent to China Bank januar 2016 out of post and gave it to him. Stuart, illeg son of Irwin Harry and Blanche of Finchley, I took one off lap top file and others, all originals stolen from home..part of our training is to hack into private laptops and bank accounts, council accounts, electricity accounts etc all companies .. we cannot be stopped.. State Minister Prendergast permits it.

ANGELINA, one of the 4 Poles used to copy Fekete work, given sketch books, join us and you are well paid and lots of benefits, otherwise you will be watched for life..Declined..//Polish contingent of Leipzig Uni Students..1993/

bethnal green London, Margit, mother of John Fielding, board of St barths Hospital, brings a Fielding cousin in to the lab-- two old jewesses, to pass on all my work to.. Dora, liberal jewess, /as Lauren Fielding, nee lara goldstein--//Golders Green-takes it to use.the other jewess Reform, declines. Eleanor30, illeg daughter of John- I have 400 Fekete's sketches, paintings and writings.. Fekete's saved jews from Hitler, it is called turning it all round, instead of being grateful, we destroy her and her family.

Addis Str Upperthorpe 200 something.. black woman Guiana-- sends sons out to thieve. Roman Catholic family gets over £350 per week../I get £95./ watched by lab, mother spends it all on herself so sends 20 yr old son out to thieve for the smaller children-- he took my navy tee-shirts, navy is he school colour, so she asks him to rob all navy clothes, 2 navy sweaters, my best ones- 3 artists blocks etc He went through my freezer.. mother told him off for bringing real food, fr...

when will RF come together.. she won't it is a phase out. They are trying to beggar her, we went too far. nothing will be made good. Anna fixed Princess Di's death and a few others, so she wanted her on a prison. There was nothing wrong with her or her sons. they just messed with them. Everyone knows now what the process is it is just lies and theft to feather their own nests, the lot of them.

we hold the rights to Fekete's work.. I thought you said we had the Rights to her work Anna.. No one cares a damn as long as they get benefits.. Tristran, queen's cousin here, I didn't know they were sending in thieves to rob your work, paid for by the tax payer... they said they had rights to it and you were acting or something.. I have forgotten which lie I told him about Fekete.......

quote --shall I kitsch this, I have been drawing into Fekete's drawings, well they are all stolen from her so what does it matter, at her age, she can only exhibit and now she wont and cant, we have robbed every item of work she had.. Do Fekete's legs hurt now, I have been putting bloater on them, and pressing all arteries, twisting the muscles and burning the skin- we have been told to destroy every body part on her..part of destroying and using her work wholesale.. When we british destroy, we destroy only the innocent and weak but we destroy totally..

quote- lab we have them here, we are beginning to trace and copy them as ours to make ourselves some sort of name... illegitimate children of lab members..

one year at Leipzig Uni-- visiting Berlin too..

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ken livingstone CANCER you MESSED ABOUT WITH ME..

KEN LIVINGSTON -- CANCER.. you messed with me. Yes they did and they knew he was cancerous-- and Boris Johnson and .....

Fekete's electricity bills are amazingly low, one was £53 --so lab mess about with them, and make them as high as we can...and gas..We are able to change clocks remote from lab..all clocks.

my dad was a political free lance JOURNALIST-- they are translating his work now-- FEKETE MIGHT HAVE USED HIS EXRESSIONS .. THAT IS WHY THEY ARE SO GOOD...no she hasn't they also checked all my Ukrainian literature in my house /remote ofcourse/ and pictures, to check if I copied them.. anything to find something to black me

Pamela- Pensions Ministry- daughter, has been given all your german essays and stories to write up as her own.. She is writing them in English- //Your german is good---- well yours was not//UNDER PINNING ALL THE CHEATS REPEATEDLY.. She was given my essay on Volks Deutsche Fluchtlinge which I had translated to English, and other stuff from your german degree- for her own german degree and though her german was very poor, the lab St barths Human Research gave her a straight A -- as they have many of their cheats..for which Pamela had to change my tax details so that I would get £75 a week pension instead of my real amount--/husband in high paid job/

the lab operatives have syphoned off £7,760 over the years from your accounts..

lab women and boss ANNA - Alyson, Debra, Lauren took all Fekete shirts home from the suitcase stolen from Manchester Airport trolley, Emirates Airlines, having put on a false terrorist alarm.. everything, paint brushes, Paints, books clothes etc for one year at USA college of English Beijing.. I was on £75 per week pension, they were all on hundreds plus extras.. left me nothing.. then when I bought stuff in China, sent it to my daughter, fat Mohammad, John Fieldings lap dog, sent the box to his family -- Fat Mohammad also had the Daughter of the Pakistani PM assassinated..He has a bad stomach and breath and they often put that on, when he is on the machine..

shropshire woman writing up by copying my work is Senior Civil Servant, Health Ministry Denis's daughter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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This was written nearly 67 years ago but the first paragraph remains as evocative and relevant as ever. Please share lest we forget its significance.

Some more lovely old photos of Ukraine. These are noted as being taken during the First World War.

Her Majesty has blacked the lab. long ago-- but they are not sure what to do about them as it is all remote

over the years I have tried to escape time and again- ALLAN so called manager, FINCHLEY has followed me to each country and shown them how to torture etc remote, on me-- including Canada.. Slovakia, Hungary, etc.

quote --we are trying to clean up fag ash woman lab has used for breaking into Fekete's home lives by her house / name? I have no idea, sat front of her on the tram, and she had that strong smell which ''smokers '' get//on springvale flats up by remote /did that to Fekete neighbour in London// there were 6 folders of A4 Fekete paintings each being sold for £1000 by the lab illegitimate kids of the lab staff, they were in pristine condition, Fekete puts folds tracing paper throughout for that exhibition.. Give them to 22 Infirmary Rd west indian druggy, her old drug taking friend, his kids will scribble over them.. give them back - no I want to play with them all a little longer-- most of them are too dumb to figure out what is really going on./ first bottom left is hers/

we are watching APRIL Lesmahagow-- put 2 filled Fekete sketch books and one poetry texts of RF in her possession, she used the sketches, drew over the top of them and sold one or two.. /// why not just draw your own????????????//

I am in SHROPSHIRE - They have asked me to write your stuff up. OK but whose is it.. Don't know.. I am english, why am I to write this... to show how diverse we British are. but it was written by a Hungarian Refugee... ANDY

tv 4 pm THE MINISTRY wives are on it, because ANNA slept with their husbands, she controlled their sex lives remote - so are now being given my work to make up for such corruption..

MANCHESTER ATTACK LATEST... The latest arrest came in the early hours of Friday morning in Moss Side. Police were also carrying out two new searches: one at a barber’s on Princess Road in Moss Side and another at a property in the St Helens area of Merseyside.

Live Manchester attack: police give details of men arrested as search for accomplices continues – live Latest updates as police arrest man in Moss Side overnight, taking total in custody to eight Read more The owner of a hardware shop on Princess Road, Byron Gibbs, said he had seen Salman Abedi at the neighbouring barbershop that was being searched. “I recognised him in the photos,” he said. “He spends time with the people. I’ve seen him walk past the shop window lots of times. He was heading towards the barber’s next door.

“I was shocked to see his face on television. It’s been a long time since I saw him last.”

The shopkeeper, 79, said no one had been in the barber shop since at least Tuesday and it had since been closed.

Gibbs described the owners as Muslim men of Middle Eastern appearance.

There was a police cordon in place around four properties at the site on Friday morning: a hardware store, a pharmacy and a cafe, as well as the barber’s.

Mohammed El-Haduri said he ran Lorenzo Pizza in Corporation Street, St Helens, which was raided, with his friend Aimen Elwafi until two weeks ago. El-Haduri claimed that Elwafi, 38, rented a flat in Blackley to Abedi.

El-Haduri, who is originally from Libya, said Elwafi handed himself in to police to help with inquiries on Wednesday night when he saw the bomber’s photograph on TV. “He made the connection straight away ...He was shocked and panicked when he saw the news,” said El-Haduri. Greater Manchester police said on Friday that a 38-year-old man was arrested in Blackley on Thursday.

El-Haduri says his friend thought there was something odd going on in the flat and suspected Abedi may have been smoking drugs, but it never occurred to him that he could be making a bomb. He said Abedi left the flat in a hurry after about six weeks, around March, telling Elwafi he needed to get a flight to Libya and leaving behind many of his belongings.