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grapecaseschoices · 1 year ago
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I would love to know more about ur drop out mcs. Your ocs are always top tier. ✨✨
What haven't I said about my babies already? [This isn't to say don't ask, I just want to make sure I am not repetitive! These questions give me time to think on them so thank you!]
Hayden
I am still having some issues grasping her personality. I think it will come more easily once I write the game. I think because she feels like a combination of sets that I tend to keep separate. I think the closest are Kendis and Lala; except Lala is more adventerous yet steady, while Kendis concerns themselves more - than they like to admit - what their loved ones think. She reminds me actually a lot of an oc I have - but never played - Lam Sommers but Hayden is more positive and optimistic and ... brighter [not in intelligence but energy. Lam is more disenterest toad, Hayden is more excited raccoon. Both gremlins but different. I am obsessed about not having my ocs souund the same, even tho -- as you can see I have familiar trends we3rewq[
Here is a shirt Hayden probably [very likely] owns. So you can UNDERSTAND how she is qswd aLMAO. Rip roflmao J.
I got a pin of a curly haired woman with a camera and I've been lowkey fixated. But I don't think photography is for Hayden. I think she likes to be a part of it too much. I have considered maybe film photography instead of digital, or maybe video recording and/or directing? IDK yet. I feel like i havent given my ocs big creative hobbies - infamous aside w2e3rewea - in a while so i wanna do that for her
Plus I think doing that would kai would be so fun/cute?
I have also considered some sorta building/woodwork instead but idk, we shall see,.
This is turning out more character building than about HER, so lessie
I think I've mentioned but Hayden is trans? She is a masc!trans woman. She has been through some stages- and struggles - with her life; trying to find a voice to what she is. She didn't always immediately know how to speak her truth but always knew something was off, but she's always been as authentically and openly herself with the language she did have.
I am a whatever!cis woman. So I've been reading a little [have more reddit posts to read more]; but please if I ever fuck up please let me know.
I think I've mentioned that Hayden went for Law at stanford and she has always been sport. She was in wrestling when she was younger and football. Yes, I know her pb is thinish but PRETEND OKAY! PRETEND THERE ARE MUSCLES! Plus I wanted a black mc and Indya has these silly photoshoots that can fit Hayden's goofyness.
I am so excited for Hayden and Jean and Kai [tho I am still debating making it Hayden and Jade and m!Kai]. Because Hayden -- it isn't that she doesn't have her issues or ghosts or struggles, but not to be a cliche ... her past really has forged her. And she has alaways been just so authentic, even when it's scary. And she has so much energy and she can love so much when she loves, she's really gonna bully those assholes into submission 12wqw
I cannot wait for her to bully Travis too and get into mayhem with Uma! I am so excited `11212weewq
I think I am going to stop for now. I am sorry, this got real long and I probably said nothing useful -- and it doesn't even have Lloyd. I just have Hayden feelings right now.
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to-be-a-dreamer · 6 months ago
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I just think that Kristen "I was my God's chosen one and I met him and he adored me but he wasn't what I needed and I didn't like the kind of divinity my church had turned him into so I left and created a pantheon dedicated to the lost and the confused and the hurt because no one should have to feel the way I did" Applebees and Ostentatia "My God barely knew my name and I met him and he was dismissive of me but he loved me and always provided what I needed and when I looked at him I only saw my father so I helped him because no one should be left to drown under their burden when all they need is a little help" Wallace should meet and be friends and maybe kiss on the mouth
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katranga · 1 month ago
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i think it's really funny that they released adam conover's normal-ass stand up smack dab between chris grace (a meta comedy on race and media and self) and fucking vanessa 5000, a sexbot clown performance
like did i finish watching adam's special? no, it was just too normal for me sorry asdfgdfh
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blackmosscupcakes · 3 months ago
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Just watched "Chris Grace as Scarlett Johansson" and it is very good. I'm not sure I've seen any comedy that so cleverly used the delivery medium to feed into the point. For those who have dropout, I really recommend it, and the little backstage snippet that goes along with it.
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daeluin · 7 months ago
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30mins onwards...... dear god i miss old yeezy
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lady-vetinari · 7 months ago
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I've seen discussions about Watcher pop up everywhere these past few days and it took me a while to realize what it even referred to cause I never watched the ghost hunting show, and I am still only working with context clues, really, but it always sounds to me like they want to create a new streaming service the same price as dropout for one show? Probably (hopefully) they have more shows, but that's the only one I as an outsider even know about, which is... a choice
But all I keep thinking is that they should have just made a kickstarter if they need a boost of money - right? Like, okay, so maybe their stuff costs more than is worth it with 'just' ads, patreon and merch, I get it, shooting a professional show is expensive. But like, just kickstart a new season. A lot of patreon supporters will still back the campaign, people who don't want monthly payments may be fine with a one time thing, and then when you put the season on youtube, you'll still get the ad revenue. And then you can have some kickstarter exclusive stuff, sure, but not put your entire catalogue behind a paywall. Especially building up a whole new site to host their stuff with accounts and payment processing and everything cannot be cheap in and of itself.
I'm guessing they already deterred too many of their fans from giving them money with their current plans for this to be feasible, but man
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hiddenreamers · 1 month ago
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Worlds Collide - Lando Norris x neuropsychologist!Reader
SUMMARY: You're a fresh neuropsychologist who is internet-famous for making entertaining and educational videos about anything psychology-related. Lando and you meet for the first time when the two of you are invited to do an episode on a podcast where people from very different professions sit down together and talk about their lives. Considering the instant chemistry, the fans aren't exactly surprised when the dating rumours emerge...
worldscollide_pod tagged landonorris and yn_thebrainiac in a post:
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What do a neuropsychologist and a Formula 1 driver have in common? 🧠🏎️ We don't know either! So we invited landonorris and yn_thebrainiac to tell us about their lives.
Listen to Worlds Collide wherever you get your podcasts or watch the episode on our YouTube channel. You can suggest and vote on show guests on our Patron page.
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user1: i'd say they have brain injury in common??
user2: not the crossover episode we wanted but the one we needed
user3: he's driving fast, she's a failed med student, what's interesting about that?
↳ user4: omg please be a joke 😭 or a ragebait ↳ user5: user3 do you realize how much time and effort it takes to be either a f1 driver or a neuropsychologist? ↳ user5: high school dropout ass comment
landonorris: can't wait!
↳ yn_thebrainiac: looking forward to meeting you ❤️ liked by landonorris
user6: he called a rectangle a circle and she uses Latin names for brain parts like it's common knowledge. Truly a collision of worlds lmao
user7: these two in one room?? feels like a fever dream
↳ user8: more like a new Barbie movie
worldscollide_pod tagged landonorris and yn_thebrainiac in a post:
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This week on Worlds Collide we have learned that a pit stop is kinda like a therapy appointment, helmets are humanity's best invention and waffles are to your brain what fuel is to a car.
Huge thanks to landonorris and yn_thebrainiac for giving us insight into their exceptional careers as well as two hours of good laughs!
Listen to Worlds Collide wherever you get your podcasts or watch the episode on our YouTube channel. You can suggest and vote on show guests on our Patron page.
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user9: yn_thebrainiac is the only person to get excited over brain injuries
↳ user10: and landonorris is the only person to make heart eyes while someone is talking about brain injuries
user11: when yn_thebrainiac was explaining her job and said to Lando he should hope he never has to be examined by her he looked so defeated 😭😭 truly a wet cat
↳ user12: and the "I guess I won't wear a helmet anymore"?? bro is down bad from the start
yn_thebrainiac: thank you for the opportunity! landonorris it was great meeting you ❤️ hope to see you again soon liked by landonorris and worldscollide_pod
↳ landonorris: just let me know when and where 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️
user13: landonorris is that guy who suddenly becomes a comedian whenever a pretty girl is around
↳ user14: but it DID work on yn_thebrainiac 😭😭😭
user15: not yn_thebrainiac answering questions like it's a presidential debate and Lando going idk man I just drive
user16: Lando asking the hosts to repeat the question because he was too focused on yn_thebrainiac? man's not beating the simp allegations anytime soon
user17: that whole episode felt more like a date than a talk show liked by worldscollide_pod
↳ worldscollide_pod: were we more wingmen or a third wheel?
user18: the way both of them were invested in each other's stories made me realize how utterly single I am
↳ user19: when yn_thebrainiac said it's a force of habit to ask how something made him feel and then Lando casually asking her the same thing??? delete Tinder, no dating app will get you a man like this
user20: can I just say how surprised I am with Lando's thoughtfulness? Like when yn_thebrainiac said she's scared to drive after examining an accident victim and he immediately offered to be her driver?
↳ user21: considering the tales of Lando's driving, it will only traumatise her further lol
user22: Lando telling her to continue because he wants to hear the rest of the story when she apologized for getting sidetracked??? 🥺🥺 mom, I want this one!!!!!
user23: they just met and they have more chemistry than some couples who have been married for decades
↳ user24: if Lando was staring at me the way he's staring at yn_thebrainiac I'd be radioactive 📛☢️ ↳ user25: no but really girlies if he doesn't look at you the way Lando's looking at her, he's not the one 🏃‍♀️‍➡️❌
user26: now I kinda want yn_thebrainiac to take up Lando on his offer to test his cognitive skills
↳ user27: if they're in the same room he's going to fail every attention task
user28: Lando's dolphin ass giggle would make you think yn_thebrainiac is the funniest person on Earth
↳ user29: he's just a girl 🎀🎀
user30: I became a fan the moment yn_thebrainiac said "imagine your head is a hairy watermelon with a ball of jello inside"
↳ user31: as a med student I can tell you that it's pretty accurate
gossipgirl_f1 just posted a picture:
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🚨🚨🚨McLaren's most eligible bachelor landonorris not eligible anymore? 🚨🚨🚨The driver has been spotted in Japan getting comfortable with an unnamed girl.
user32: didn't yn_thebrainiac post she's there too?
↳ user33: oh god please let it be real ↳ user34: it's definitely her
user35: people out there living my dreams 🥲
user36: why do yall even care?? he's a grown ass man, grow tf up
↳ user37: and yet here you are commenting 😴😴 like what are YOU doing at the devils sacrament?
user38: where's the FBI when you need them we have to knowww
↳ user39: that's yn_thebrainiac she had the exact same outfit in the story she posted earlier
user40: come look girl user41 someones stealing your man
↳ user41: aw hell naw she better know how to fight ↳ user42: wow the delulu is strong with this one
user43: look what yall did worldscollide_pod liked by worldscollide_pod
↳ user43: i guess that's a confirmation huh
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Japan treated us nice but she treats me nicer 🌸🇯🇵
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user44: so they met and fell in love because they were randomly invited to do a random episode of a random podcast? and people still say God ain't real smdh
↳ user45: they better not forget to invite worldscollide_pod to their wedding
user46: guess he'll fuck anyone, when's my turn?
↳ user47: probably never, considering you're no one rather than anyone💁‍♀️💁‍♀️
oscarpiastri: yes, they are as annoyingly in love as they look
↳ landonorris: woww and here I thought we were best friends ↳ landonorris: so rude ↳ oscarpiastri: I have group chat screenshots ↳ landonorris: you're my bestest friend Oscar and you're too nice to ever do this to me 🥰 ↳ maxverstappen1: we all have screenshots ↳ georgerussell63: you're cooked mate ↳ landonorris: 🥲🥲
user48: I would sacrifice my firstborn for this 😭😭
user49: I'm not sure who I am more jealous of
↳ user50: both
user51: they look so good together wtf
user52: worldscollide_pod you guys need to fix your post, what neuropsychologist and a f1 driver have in common is a marriage certificate
user53: ok real question how did he pull her??
↳ user54: he's a millionaire he doesn't have to do anything lol women's ideal type is a loaded wallet ↳ user55: bold of you to assume someone like her needs a walking piggy bank
yn_thebrainiac tagged landonorris in a post:
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Hey, did you know that it was a Japanese scholar, Hiroshi Kojima, who popularized phenomenological ontology? He proposed that the dichotomy of individuality vs consciousness could be solved by treating the body as a half-way point between those two concepts. In essence, Kojima suggested considering the body as being seen both from the inside and the outside, now focusing on the intersubjective encounters as part of what constitutes the human being in the context of ontology.
Ps. He promised to wear his helmet! 🌼💖
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user56: she's everything, he's just Ken😌💅liked by landonorris
↳ georgerussell63: facts
user57: I bet the pillow talk is baffling
↳ landonorris: nah she's too tired for that ↳ user58: 💀💀 bro you didn't have to do her like that
user59: if he breaks your heart I promise to shake his head real hard, repeatedly 🥰🥰
user60: 😬😬 do they not make them pretty anymore?
↳ user61: fr she doesn't deserve him 😐 sad ↳ user62: this relationship feels like a social experiment like what do you mean he chose HER???? Lando Norris settling for a 2/10 is not the news I wanted to read today ↳ user63: wow no wonder yall dads left 😭 she's a normal looking woman, did porn rot your peanut brains completely? go outside and interact with regular, non-photoshopped people and then come back
user64: they have nothing in common and yet they fit perfectly how?? i feel like I'm having a strokee
user65: diagnostic process videos bout to get lit now that there's a volunteer to draw clocks and memorize strings of random words
user66: why do they look like a disney movie couple
↳ maxverstappen1: he may or may not have called her princess on more than one occasion ↳ landonorris: you guys promised 🥲 ↳ oscarpiastri: no, we promised not to post the screenshots ↳ yn_thebrainiac: you mean the screenshots georgerussell63 just sent me? ↳ landonorris: good talk everyone I'll just go die of embarrassment if you don't mind ↳ yn_thebrainiac: I thought the things you said about me were kind of cute ↳ landonorris: nvm I'm back to life
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hellishfig · 8 months ago
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VINDICATING
calling it now: i think the bingo game changer tonight is the one where katie, raph, and brennan think that they're the ones playing, but actually people up in the green room are playing
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veryimportantpeopleshow · 6 months ago
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Tonight, on Very Important People - a special bonus episode, featuring additional footage from all of our incredible, insightful interviews throughout the season! Join host Vic Michaelis in revisiting interviews with Princess Emily, Denzel, Nana, Marionette Conqui and Zonton de la Doll, Kepl and Dr. Milk, Tommy Shriggly, Professor Avery Goodman, Jasper and Casper, Leighanna-Jean Gruthers, Pig #2, Martha Tops and Lucian Azathoth, and Augbert.
Launches at 7pm ET / 4pm PT on Dropout
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cassierobinsons · 2 months ago
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"where did this fandom-wide idea of dean as emotionally closed-off caveman and cas as self-actualised sage come from" well first of all people in this fandom don't think high school dropouts count as beings capable of introspection or really any kind of complex thought. the idea that dean might have any insight into his own desires or trauma is anathema and there is no amount of canon evidence that can sway them so don't bother. secondly,
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thefirstlioveyou · 2 months ago
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"i didn't want to tell you because the last time i was sick, you made me go to school anyway."
this is a subtle indicator that mike's emotional and physical needs can go ignored. although yes he's lying about being sick in this scene, the fact he saw that as an excuse his mom would buy shows you this may be insight on how he actually feels. he doesn't say things because he knows what will be said, and it's never helpful. it explains why he bottles up his emotions and hides them throughout the rest of the show. and the times he does open up, he's reminded of why he didn't want to in the first place. (and actually, the only person he can tell things without being rejected has been will)
let's explore more instances like this.
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"i've been bullied my entire life, i understand."
"no you don't."
i get it. i don't hold this against el by any means. but it DOES still carry the theme of mike's issues being ignored. although it's not the POINT of the scene, it's still there. you can put down your pitchforks now.
this boy has been threatened to jump off a cliff and ultimately kill himself, physically bullied, verbally bullied, socially rejected. that had to have stung to hear her say that.
mike hasn't had a proper scene of how he feels about the bullying he's experienced all his life. the moment he does bring it up, it's denied.
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"these [toys] have emotional value to me."
"don't care. throw it away. also why are you suddenly so rebellious recently? why are your grades lacking? actually, i don't care why. i won't actually bother to ask. just stop doing that."
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"i know your dnd club is tonight -"
"hellfire."
"why don't you just call it the club for high school dropouts?"
karen not remembering the name to the club is an indication that mike probably doesn't bring the club up or his interests with his parents much. makes sense. they've made it explicitly clear they don't care about the emotional value his interests have to him. and ted's comment directly after yet again reminds him why he never brings it up in the first place.
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"i want you feel like you can talk to me. i'm here for you."
"no more secrets. from now on we tell each other everything."
such sweet support right? now.. where are they? karen has made no effort to understand mike the way she has for nancy. and although what nancy said is technically something that goes two ways, she's the one that initiated that promise.
i still understand why she and karen are this way to him, and i don't hold it against them! mike is just as emotionally distant to nancy. the wheelers are a very complex family and i can't wait for them to be dissected like bugs in s5.
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and as i'm typing this, i realize all this makes the subtext in the junkyard make even more sense.
"sometimes it's hard to say what you really feel, especially to the people you care about the most, because what if they don't like the truth?"
anytime mike tells someone what he really feels or thinks, it's been denied, rejected or undermined. it scares him even more that this truth has to do with his sexuality. it puts him at more risk. he's seen how people treat gay people, how brutal they can be. he's internalized all of it despite it not being targeted towards him. it pushes him further into the closet and denial.
if his parents can't even see him more than a rebellious kid with failing grades that is in a "club for high school dropouts," what makes him believe they would accept him for being gay?
if his sister and mom truly are there for him, they truly care, then why didn't they mean what they said? where are they?
obviously, they do. but in mike's perspective, what else is he meant to think from this? what conclusion should he draw? my mom and sister just told me they'll be here for me and we'll be closer, just for them to act otherwise, just for us to be even farther apart. what the hell?
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grapecaseschoices · 1 year ago
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part 1; questi0ns here
What is the most embarrassing thing that has ever happened to your oc?  Do they still feel ashamed for it? Were there any witnesses?
Hayden: No thots hed emtee. In truth, I am still desciding if Hayden is part of the crew of my doesnt get/not easily embarassed chars. But I don't think she is one to STILL feel easily embarassed about something. And shame is not something she willingly associates with.
Lloyd: Noooo tophs! Shame is every day of this child life. BUT I don't think he luxuriates in past embarassments unless it was big, continous, or specific -- always new things to stress.
Does your oc have any best friends? Who was/is their closest friend? What about their worst enemy?
Hayden: She does -- it is Travis. Uma is her platonic sister and they vibe at a level; Uma is also her best friend but ... Maude is her heart, Uma is her spirit, and Travis is her common sense. He is the sort of balance that Hayden needs. Travis claims he is her worst enemy but I don't think Hayden is gonna pay that mind -- we will see how it goes. I feel Hayden has a worse enemy but it is something dramatic ... like the bursar at Stanford or the RA or like the mailman. Like Jerry and Norman from Seinfeld, or Dinklllllllleberg
Lloyd: Uma! And Travis. But Uma. If one cant be in love with their best friends than it is Wanda. It is obviously Wanda. No one has hurt him as much as he has hurt himself -- but beyond the deep narrative sense, currently Travis. Maybe his parents.
How dangerous is your oc? Are they completely innocent, or someone to be feared? Do others know?
This feels like a weird question for a not supernatural slice of life.
Hayden: I mean she could beat your ass. She stronk. And that tongue is a weapon so. Everyone knows unless theyre new in town
Lloyd: A wet blanket -- but he's dangerous to Travis' and Uma's hearts. He rare temper that burns hot. Most don't -- maybe Travis.
What is your oc’s vision like? Do they require glasses, are they completely blind, or do they have 20/20 vision? Does this have an effect on their life?
Hayden: She would be catergorized as moderate visual impariment with bilateral visual acuity at 20/150. She has been very near-sighted for as long as she remembers -- so it is what it is. She definitely got picked on for the glasses straps / impact glasses she had to wear when playing sports ... but honestly that was low on the scale of reasons she was picked on.
Lloyd: Has "normal" vision at 20/20.
What is your oc’s favourite time of day? Why is this? Do they have a daily practice during this time?
Hayden: 10am, it's often an hour or so after she wakes up -- and she's the type to get things going so she doesn't put it off. No time like the present, etc. She also likes blue hour, when it hits right after dusk. It is pretty.
Lloyd: Nighttime is the right time. Typically an hour or two after/before sunset/sunrise [respectively]. Other than the fact that it is quiet time? He finds the sounds of crickets soothing as well as the sound of late night 'traffic'. It gives him time to create and rest unbothered.
How often does your oc lie? Why is that? What was the biggest lie they’ve ever told?
Hayden: She lies fairly often but in preposterous ways. Because she thinks it is funny. I don't know yet -- but I bet it has to do with Jean.
Lloyd: Other than lying to himself? Not often. He isn't good at it/feels guilty unless his life depends on it. It hasn't happened -- yet
How well can your oc keep secrets? Is there a difference between how they handle their own vs someone else’s? To what lengths would they go to keep something hidden?
Hayden: She can keep a secret if someone emphasizes it or if she feels someone might get hurt from sharing. She doesn't keep her own secrets. She will make a strong effort to keep a secret if she asked to -- but she generally isn't a fan of secrets.
Lloyd: He is good at secrets, mainly because he is quiet. Unless very directly asked, he will never say anything. It isn't his business to do so. He would go through great lengths to keep a big secret -- even lie.
How does your oc fare in an emergency situation? Do they panic, do they freeze, do they take charge?
Hayden: Hayden has a sort of nervy, excitable energy so an emergency situation might make her feel overwhelmed. But once she has something to focus on, she is actually really good at taking charge. Hayden would probably be good at an execution role -- give her a plan and she will make it seen through. She has the sorta aura that makes you believe things will happen - plus she wouldnt suffer antics in a situation like this - so people would heed her.
Lloyd: He wants to run. He doesn't panic but he can get really anxious, sometimes - depending on the situation - to the point of having an upset stomach. He might try to get out of the way; but if it is bad enough or it is people he cares about, he is pretty good at stepping up to be supportive. He can be soothing when he wants to be.
If your oc were to be arrested for something, what would it be for? For being too kind, for a legitimate crime?
Hayden:
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What is your oc’s personal hygiene like? Is it important to them? What is their daily routine for this like?
Hayden: Hayden actually would be such a much more cleanly person if she wasn't always BUSY. She doesn't sweat easily, so it would be easy to bypass but her mom was such a stickler about dirt. And that internal voice still sticks. Thankfully she likes showers so she does once a day.
Lloyd: Honestly if it wasn't for how his parents raised him, too, he would be a HOT. MESS. He showers at least twice a week and makes sure to clean the important/easily stinky bits daily. He does love a good bath. His showers up when he is starting to feel particulary depressed -- it is a control thing / avoiding other's worries thing.
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smartypantsshow · 6 months ago
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🧠TONIGHT! A new episode of Smartypants launches on Dropout at 7PM ET / 4PM PT.
Join host Rekha Shankar and speakers Ross Bryant, Alexis Rhiannon, and Raphael Chestang for an evening of insightful discussion on swing revival, bombing the moon, and how to write emails like a white lady.
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cabinette · 7 months ago
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Fortress Meshi..... I've left some ranting under the cut
LAIOS Well of course he's a demoknight what did you expect. talking sword, can see ghosts- ish ? messes around with a weird book that, well, didn't take his eye but DOES give him a lot of insight on monster cooking. would also just be funny if instead of his eye we just see his monster for every halloween
MARCILLE it was up in the air for me whether to make her a medic or a demo, but in the end she's the party's attack mage- her healing isn't as effective as falins but its good and quick! Also the 11 PHDs thing is funny when applied to her. medschool dropout....
CHILCHUCK He's a professional. he's a sharpshooter. he's got standards. He would totally live in a campervan and piss in jars. it's SO obvious it's like a fish in water just LOOK AT HIM
SENSHI honestly I don't really want to bind Senshi to the specifics of Pyro but it aligns for the most part, such as seeing most of the cast as itty bitty cherubs who must be taken care of- or the axe and the article of clothing that just seems to never come off. He's got a little soldier sprinkled in there but thats just mostly for the bread MISCELLANEOUS Falin is a medic and she got autobalanced and is currently being made to follow tfclassic (dungeon) orders white the rest of the crew have yet to get her! maybe hopped up on australium.... Izutsumi is a dysfunctional scout. Thistle is merasmus- given that he's a wizard yes but they also both have white men messing around in their houses, Thistle could also possibly be a rogue pauling but it's in the air atm until i settle my thoughts WL is admin or maybe a very fucked up version of her idk man. spaghetti at the wall
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thechekhov · 1 year ago
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codenamesazanka · 11 months ago
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I need help writing the league of villains for a fan fiction. Like can you give me tips on to write their dialogue and stuff like that
Thanks for the ask! Here are some things that I think would be helpful, but please be aware that it's my approach to writing the League the way I interpret them. I'm sure there's people who finds my fic wildly inaccurate in terms of characterization. Sometimes I go back months later and disagree with my own stuff, given new information or outlook. You'll have different interpretations than me, and that's okay. And thus,
Tip #1: First of all, it’s fanfic, it’s fun, and it’s yours. You can do whatever the heck you want! It does not matter at all what you do with the characters, their dialogue, their personalities, their relationships, etc. I’ve read plenty of AU fanfics where I could not recognize Shigaraki Tomura/Shimura Tenko, despite the character having the name, but I still liked the story okay. Really, it’s all up to you and what you want. 
That said, to actually answer your question:
Tip #2: Re-read the manga. Read the scanlations - multiple versions from different scanlation groups. Read the official. No version will be perfect, some are better than others (Viz Official has its issues, but it is done by a professional translator and I tend towards it; Fallen Angels (Chapters 1-150s) was the first to scanlate and iirc they even included translation commentary at the end of their chapters; I found mangastream to be more accurate than Jaimini (Chapters 150-250s)), but having a variety of translations will give you insight into the intention of a dialogue, and different ways of achieving it. Read the original Japanese, if you can. 
Tip #2.5: Best way to figure a character, I find, is to describe the panels they’re in as if you’re writing a very plain, objective, impartial image description. Now you have an overview of their outward behavior, their actions, their dialogue. Using that, you have the basis for developing their motivations and personality. It’s the difference between ‘Shigaraki used gamer lingo a few times here, so he is a gamer... therefore he’s obsessed with games and that’s all he does’ and ‘In the first 100 chapters of the story, despite speaking sometimes like a gamer, Shigaraki is actually seen reading newspapers rather than holding a game console’.
Put another way, don’t assume generalized descriptions or traits for a character and write them based on that. You risk writing a trope or archetype or situation rather than the actual character. 
When a loved one dies suddenly, people will be in shock, before sobbing and weeping uncontrollably. That’s generally true, but the character may manifest grief in a different way. Someone close to Toga is killed - what does she do? You can write her breaking down crying, that’s perfectly reasonable. But if you look at the manga, when Twice is killed, she doesn’t cry right away. She gets angry; she lashes out. She’s deeply hurt by his murder, of course! But the tears she sheds for his passing are few in the immediate aftermath - her grief mostly takes the form of slicing Heroes’ throats.
Tip #3: Read everything else, for inspiration, for background knowledge, for tone, for your own gain outside of fandom.
Just the other day, I read Real, the wheelchair basketball manga by Inoue Takehiko. Its three main characters are marginalized by proper society - two because they’re disabled, one because he’s a high school dropout - and there were moments where I was reminded of the League’s situation. In the first chapter, the high school dropout makes a final visit to school where his teachers didn’t think much of him, and his classmates looked down on him. As he leaves, he thinks to himself that everything he does ends in failure and he’s an idiot, all the while he takes a dump at the school gates as a parting gift.
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While I can’t see anyone from the League doing that exactly shot for shot, the spirit of it - being seen as a fuck up, being unwanted, being defiant in face of that, even in a inadvisable way - is similar.
Tip #3.5: Another book I’ve read years ago is Codes of the Underworld: How Criminal Communicate. It was very informative, and I think back to it sometimes when I write for the League. 
Criminals face severe constraints on communication imposed by the action of the law, and, unlike the rest of us, cannot easily develop institutions aimed at circumventing them. This central feature of criminal lives makes communication and above all reliable communication exceptionally hard to sustain. For instance, the same secrecy that protects criminals from the law hinders their opportunities to advertise their goods and qualities… In the underworld, moreover, punishments for mistakes and irrational behavior are harsher than they are elsewhere. In the world of regular business, failures of communication can lead to a loss of business, but in the underworld they can result in years behind bars, or worse.
I don’t follow it exactly, because the League is in a children’s fantasy story, and maybe this was obvious but now that it was written out to me, I know how to give the Villains an “edge” to them that a non-Villain might not have, because as Villains, they do often logically would to be secretive and brutal and cautious. Dabi walking around in broad daylight meant their hideout was discovered and All Might literally took down the wall to the bar; a breakdown in negotiations with Overhaul meant Magne dying and Compress getting his arm blown off. 
Tip #4: Related, let the League be assholes, because sometimes they are. Let them be mean and cruel and problematic. Sometimes they’ll be jerks to each other. Nearly all of them grew up in bad circumstances where they probably were not taught important lessons and details about respect and boundaries and being nice. They are definitely not going to be aware of the intricacies of fandom's (oft-American and oft-terminally-online) consensus about problematic behavior. And that’s fine. 
I remember once receiving an ask about why Shigaraki would pull Twice’s mask off in Chapter 224. Wasn’t that terrible of Shigaraki? Yeah, it was. It was also the quickest, most efficient way to get Twice to quit his arguing with the rest of the League, so Shigaraki can announce that they are going to rescue Giran (what Twice was arguing for). After that, he puts the mask back on for Twice. If you ask me, I’d say Shigaraki thinks this evens out - he does something mean that he knows will freak out Twice for a moment, but it’s because he’s arguing for Twice’s side, and he’s putting on the mask back at the end. 
You and I would likely never do something like that because we know taking away someone’s important assistive aid, even for a moment, hurts them and we don’t want to cause them pain for even a second if we could help it/there’s not ‘evening it out’/it demonstrates a power unbalance that perpetuates ableism/there are other ways to stop someone and grab attention/we know not to touch someone even the slightest without permission/etc. But does the character you’re writing know all this? Does he care? Does he think it’s worth following these rules? Does he have time for it, does he have incentives for it, does he have the lucidity, does he think he’s an exception because of this and that, etc, etc. 
A lot of things, most people often just don’t know until they’re taught to be specifically aware. As an example: When I was younger, I knew broadly that taking things without permission was bad; but what if I took these pair of scissors from my friend’s desk and used it and put it back before the owner knew? The owner is my friend. They once told me it was okay to take it, so it counts even today, right? It was just a pair of scissors, a common household item. My friend did not care; still does not care. But knowing what I do now about things like violations of boundaries, explicit consent, the continuation of these concepts for the most trivial and mundane things even in the deepest of friendship or familial ties - I feel the need to ask to use something. That’s me and what I’ve learned through the years, though. It’s probably not going to be [fictional character].
And sometimes the League are just bad people. Shigaraki tried to kill Toga and Dabi at their first meeting. Mr. Compress is seemingly a-okay with kidnapping and murder despite his ancestor being more of a Robin Hood type. Spinner likely knowingly doomed his family to even worse ostracism and harassment from his fantasy-racist hometown when he ran off to join a group of well-televised terrorists. 
That’s also fine. They’re not real. They’re fictional Villains, and you’re temporarily using them as hand-puppets to tell a story. 
Tip #5. For dialogue, it helps knowing what each character’s voice/speaking style sounds like. Some basics:
Shigaraki: 
“Shigaraki speaks with the normal masculine contracted speech, but with a sinister tone. Surprisingly not very cussy. He likes aggravating other people though.”
Caleb Cook notes that Shigaraki talks like an overgrown kid. (In comparison to ReDestro, who “uses more SAT words, since he’s had a formal education.”)
He can be a sarcastic smartass.
Kurogiri:
“Kurogiri is Extremely Polite”
He only refers to Shigaraki as ‘Shigaraki Tomura’. Always the full name, always just that.
He speaks very formally and respectfully; however, there is also a nastier side to him that comes out when he faces off Heroes: Saying to All Might, “I can't say I like the idea of having blood and guts inside my gate, but… if they're yours, I’ll happily oblige.” (Chapter 18); mocking Eraserhead and Mic when they're being sad over him, “Have you mistaken this place for a confessional of some kind?” (Chapter 254)
Dabi: 
“Dabi is like Shoto but ruder, though not to Bakugo’s extent”
He calls people names: Toga most often, as 'crazy'; he called Spinner 'lizard' once; when he first met Shigaraki, he said 'gross'.
Note that all the examples above are people younger than him; as far as I know, Dabi refrains from name-calling his allies who are older than him: Compress, Twice, Skeptic.
He inexplicably politely calls Ujiko ‘Ujiko-san’.
Compress:
“Compress is kind of like Sero. He’s got that trickster tone to him. Gets rougher when things don’t go his way.”
Likes to call himself an ‘old man’ at age 32; talks like an older gentleman as well. 
Twice: 
Twice contradicts himself a lot. Generally, he says one thing, his alter then says the opposite of that immediately afterwards. 
However, when things are urgent or serious, his alter’s speech fades. See Chapter 148, when he confronts Shigaraki about the Overhaul plan - he spills out his feelings with no contradiction. See Chapter 224, after they find out Giran’s been kidnapped - when arguing with the League about whether to say Giran, he’s completely coherent. 
Twice argues back with the alter sometimes, rather than the alter simply blurting out the opposite of what he says. 
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After he gets over his clone trauma, the alter seemed to have…integrated into himself? He still speaks in contradictions, but less so, and it doesn’t seem to be a separate voice speaking out involuntarily
Spinner: 
“Spinner also speaks the normal masculine contracted speech like Kirishima and Kaminari, but he talks like Tokoyami during the Forest Lodge arc because he’s a Stain chuuni.”
An average, normal guy, compared to the rest of the League: not very polite, but not particularly rude; no great wit or affect (after he stops being a Stain fanboy), but not unintelligible; game references infrequently.
Giran: 
“Giran is also like speaks the normal masculine contracted speech similar to Shoto, but he’s a lot more mature.”
He calls Shigaraki “Shigaraki-san”, being polite towards him as a customer. 
He calls Twice by his last name, ‘Bubaigawara’, likely because they seem to be friends beyond just business. 
Toga: 
Toga is a generally polite girl, talks like a teenager. 
She can be bad at explaining herself! Seems to forget the people are lacking context for the things she says. “Hey, my best friend Jin just got killed by a Hero, which makes me sad, as well as worried that I'm going to be cut down like nothing as well, especially because I've been told how abnormal I am, even though I think I'm a normal person just like you, because I have emotions like love and fear, as any regular human does, and that lifetime of repression has hurt me.” -> Whatever she actually says to Uraraka in Chapter 289.
Only Toga uses first names with honorifics with the other League members. This is her being cute and desiring familiarity, but still polite. 
 ◦ Twice is ‘Jin-kun’
 ◦ Shigaraki is ‘Tomura-kun’
 ◦ Dabi is, at first ‘Dabi-kun’; after she finds out he’s Touya, he’s ‘Touya-kun’ 
 ◦ Spinner is ‘Spinner-kun’
 ◦ However, Mr. Compress is simply ‘Mister’ 
Conversely, only Mr. Compress and Twice call her ‘Toga-chan’. All the 20-somethings dudes call her just ‘Toga’. 
*Note what the League calls each other. They all call each other using Villain names. If the male members of the League are using first names and honorifics for each other, they’ve either gotten extremely close and intimate and weirdly polite, or they’re being possessed by AFO. 
Tip #5.5. Instead of fretting over writing good dialogue right away, just write whatever you need to get a scene over with. You can go back later to change the tone and speaking style of the sentence.
Here’s a line I had for Dabi at first: 
“Whatever hospital he works at should be shut down for incompetency in background checks.”
Wayyy too formal. Here’s the line after I went back and fixed it:
“Whatever hospital he works at should be shut down for being shit at background checks.”
Still not my best shot, but better. Sometimes all you need is just to change a word. 
Tip #6. Humor. The League is ridiculous and hilarious. Always try to have fun with their interactions and antics.
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