#inko shimura theory

[tw1nter]

I mean, pretty sure we all know she is but might as well ask ig ig

[marunalu]

You know, while I'm not a big fan of the Inko shimura theory because in a way I feel like the plot will just overload, this theory gives a great footing for dfo. I understand that if DFO is confirmed there are hundreds of possibilities that explain why, but Inko Shimura provides a very good one. Although there are several theories about AFO and DFO, one of them is that perhaps Izuku isn't his first child, that perhaps throughout his years of life he wanted to experiment and see if his quirk was transmitted to someone who shared his genetics and maybe even gets stronger. But even though it could be a possibility I don't think it's the case, in the same way it would seem strange to me that AFO only knew Inko and tried to go out with her without an ulterior motive, if we add to that over the years and with Garaki helps and technology, AFO has been able to replicate his quirk and many others and had a children's hospital that served as possible vessals.

This makes me think that there should be a deeper reason why AFO would decide to have a child and choose Inko, since even if we don't know anything about Izuku's father, we do know that Inko married him, this implies that AFO had to previously made Inko fell in love with him, spending a reasonable time as a couple and then having children and marrying her. In the same way Inko is just a housewife, since we doesn't see her work like other parents and her life has been dedicated only to his son.

This is where the Inko shimura theory would make a lot of sense as to why AFO would choose Inko? he chose Tomura for being a Shimura, even if he had other replacements, Tomura is the one who would cause the greatest impact as happened in Kamino, a way to rub to All Might how not only killed his sensei, but also destroyed what she suffered to protect, that her sacrifice was in vain. So, what would happen if AFO found out later that Nana had another child and wanted to look for him just so he could hurt All Might more and found Inko and started his plan. However this is where there is a twist, because what began as simple manipulation, became something more, AFO over time came to love Inko, formed a family with her to the point of hiding Macchia and letting All Might destroy part of his empire for not being fully active. AFO took the time to make a person fall in love, get married and have a child and what began as yet another of his plans ended in forming a family to which he wanted to return, a family that didn't want to put at risk and not to be taken from him like Yoichi. This is why I see how Inko being a Shimura would be usefull to DFO, because there would be no better way to destroy All Might and erase his smile than to see that he tarnished his sensei's legacy.

I still had this in my inbox, sorry for not posting it sooner.

You summed up perfectly why I love the inko shimura theory, even if Im not 100% sure if its true.

Afo wanting to use inko for his own plans and to hurt all might, just to actually REALLY falling for her, starting a family and scrabbing his former plans so he can have a future with them, just for all might to show up and destroying that for him is not only karma but also in some kind of way damn hilarious!

[zenithsys]

What's up guys I propose a wild new Shimura baby theory

[vam1mav]

|| Naahh, if the "Inko Shimura" and "Dad For One" theory become canon along with the Bakudeku ship, that family will be chaos wherever you see it ||

[delawaredetroit]

And this isn't a suspicious chapter to put Inko's character page on at all obviously...the exact chapter that shows the end of the All Might and All for One's battle in Kamino. And Inko is the only character besides Kotaro with her family member(s) listed as her favorite thing. Completely normal, nothing to see here.

Look, the least suspicious reason for this placement is that Inko has one of her biggest character moments in the upcoming home visit chapter. And the similar favorite things between Kotaro and Inko could indicate a parallel in their roles of being "normal people" who are close relatives of One for All users. (Because All Might had no family by the time he received One for All and Shigaraki never knew Nana, Kotaro and Inko are the only characters that can fulfill this role).

But if dad for one turns out to be true, the placement of this character page becomes hilarious. Chapter 94: All for One being transported across the sea onto an island and being wheeled into the highest security prison in the country. The ending: Poor Inko has had to raise Izuku all alone because her husband is over the sea. She feels so guilty. I feel bad for her when I draw her.

[vtewig]

The Identity of Deku's Dad

Has anybody else been so hyped after reading the latest chapters of MHA (418-422) because of the hints that the identity of Deku's father will be revealed soon?

In chapter 422, The U.S. president is shown, stating that all American heroes are to come to Japan, so perhaps Deku's father might be on that list of people arriving to help out.

I know there is still the possibility of the reveal being Dad for One, which is an interesting theory in my opinion, but the other chance that it might be an individual who works with heroes or is one of them also seems very intriguing.

It could also be the president himself, given how he is always in the shadows, but I honestly feel there is a slim chance for that to be true.

I can't be certain how Horikoshi will put the puzzle pieces of who Izuku's father is together, but I feel the president panels might be a piece of the puzzle somehow. His face is in the shadows...

...but again so was AFO's face for a long time.

I still feel really strongly about the DFO theory. On one hand I do see how people might be displeased by it, because AFO does insert himself in a lot of characters lives and influences them from the background, but precisely because of that I find him a very interesting and fleshed out character. So desperate for attention and love, even when he has it he doesn't know how to respond to it. He is also quite a charming character, which I feel you would have to be to impress the lovely Inko Midoriya. She is just too amazing, I also feel that he would be drawn to her as well because of that. Or perhaps because she bears resemblance to a certain Shimura? But again, Inko is very different to Nana, as in, she appears much softer as a character than Nana does, and I feel AFO would crave that from a person given that he wasn't taken care of and had to help his brother out and grew up in a very feral state and an incredibly hostile environment for anybody, let alone a child. Even though he does end up using people, I do think that that is because of his defense mechanism and constant living on survival mode affecting him.

AFO is also someone who doesn't want people to know the real him, his weaknesses and inner thoughts, his human side. The memories he does share with Deku and Tomura are only to traumatize them and break them up; in short: they are carefully curated.

If DFO does come into play, I feel that Tomura/Tenko will have a hand in the reveal. Perhaps helping or saving Izuku from within the vestige world? Maybe he will be able to help by seeing Izuku's memories and altering them like Deku did for him, because in the case that does end up happening, Deku will be the one needing a helping hand in coping with the reveal, and who better than the boy who that man was a father figure to as well. And in the end Deku and Tomura could also together "defeat" AFO by seeing his memories and saving the defenseless child he once was.

This is probably overthinking, but I wanted to share my thoughts with you guys. I love trying to guess what will happen and still being surprised by Horikoshi's amazing execution each time. I would love to read what you guys have to say on the topic.

[riahlynn101]

Crack Theory:

Trigger warnings for implied sexual assault, torture, implied mommy issues, and child abandonment.

Note: I'm both a staunch believer that the man at the end of chapter 425 is Tenko AND a DFO believer, so this is just for funsies. 

BUT

What if the reason the mystery man looks so much like Tenko is because the man is a Shimura. Walk with me here.....

Introduction:

I know it sounds outrageous but what if Hori wasn't trying to hint at Inko being Nana's daughter (which I know is also a crack theory, but there's evidence there), but that another one of Izuku's parents are related to Nana.

I'm going to be very careful here, because the implications of what I'm about to say could be misconstrued. But considering the likelihood that (if) Nana had another child after Kotaro, she gave it away soon after it was born, the baby probably doesn’t have any memories of her. Actual memories of her, at least. 

But then I remembered Kotaro had a photo of his mother that, while he was conflicted about her, he did treasure very much (in his own way). 

So, what if Nana, when she gave her baby away, included a photo of her and/or the rest of the family. And when the baby (in this case) Hisashi grew up and met Inko, he fell in love with her. Both because of her similarities to Nana and her warmth and kindness (things he likely didn’t have growing up). 

We haven’t met Hisashi, so we have no idea what his personality might be. The little we do know of him seems positive and/or neutral at worst. 

What do we know about Hisashi Midoriya?

1. His name is Hisashi - which is a reference to Hisashiburi (long time no see. A perfect fit for someone that hasn’t, to our knowledge, shown up yet).

2. According to Inko in chapter one, page nineteen, Hisashi breathes fire. 

3. He works overseas (though the exact country has never been totally confirmed. A popular one is the United States or China). 

4. His relationship with Inko and Izuku seems neutral at worst. 

The only references of him (in the manga):

Why I think the mystery man in 425 could be Hisashi Midoriya:

1. His mouth is covered, which could be because of his quirk (firebreath). 

2. He looks like he’s been held captive for a while (again, fitting the meaning of his name: long time no see).

3. Him being held captive could be the reason that Inko isn’t talking directly to him in chapter 97, or the first page above. 

4. We are down to four chapters and not a lot of places to go. So, the time is now to reveal him. 

5. I have seen a few people speculate that there are two different people shown at the end of chapter 425 (Shigaraki by his feet and the mystery man by his upper body). 

Arguments against this:

1. Hisashi has no plot relevance from what we know. 

2. The man is likely Tenko. They look the same, the way the chapter sandwiches the panel of the man between Izuku and the other students, and the narrative needing him to come back. 

3. The man does look quite young. Though, that could be because he hasn’t gone outside in YEARS, experimentation, or even good genetics. We also don’t know what the man actually looks like, because most of his face was covered by a gag or hair.

Why I think this man isn’t only Hisashi Midoriya but also a Shimura:

1. It’s been pointed out before, but when Nana gives Kotaro away, she’s wearing a heavy winter jacket. This could be nothing, but the fact that it’s spring at the time does set off some alarm bells. 

This could be nothing. Maybe it was cold that day, but it is strange that Hori decided to draw her facing away, in a winter jacket, and kind of faraway. 

A popular theory, at least where Inko Shimura is concerned, is that Nana was pregnant at the time. I’m going to co-opt this and apply it to Hisashi.

2. Hisashi being a Shimura would explain why he was locked away. 

I can imagine that AFO wouldn’t hesitate to break the Shimura family in any way he can. 

3. Assuming it isn’t Tenko, the man looks like a Shimura. 

Same dark hair.

Dark eyes. 

4. We don’t know what Nana’s husband’s quirk was, or how Hisashi’s quirk works exactly. And that might be for a reason. 

For how traumatic her husband’s death was, we see nothing of him. 

Kotaro, who would have been old enough to remember him, doesn’t mention his father. Nor does he have a photo of him. 

In the Inko Shimura theory, it’s speculated that it’s because Inko looks somewhat like her father. 

In this theory I like to think it’s both because Nana’s husband has Izuku’s freckles AND we don’t hear anything about him because his quirk is also fire breathing. 

Now that I think about it, we also don’t know Kotaro’s quirk either. 

5. His face is covered. We don’t know by what exactly, but it’s clearly hard to get off. If you were to kidnap someone with a fire breathing quirk, you too would want to prevent them from using it. (Quirk suppressants in universe don’t exist in the same way they do in fanfictions.)

6. If Hisashi was kidnapped when Izuku was very young, then Izuku wouldn’t have any memories of his father. Which means the vestiges, namely Nana, wouldn’t be able to place that he’s related to her. 

7. And if Hisashi and Izuku look nothing alike, it would explain why she doesn’t notice.

8. It was pointed out by, I think Psychomurderez, that the house where Inko and Izuku play heroes is different from the one in the present day. 

For one it looks more like a traditional Japanese house, with sliding doors and tatami floors. 

There are no sliding doors that we can see in their apartment.

This implies that they moved sometime between then and now. 

Link to the original observation: https://www.tumblr.com/psychomurderz/648900055957487616/about-the-midoriya-family-what-do-we-know-about

A possible timeline:

Nana gives her son away. 

Gives birth to Hisashi.

Gives him away to foster care or an orphanage.

Hisashi grows up, meets Inko, and they get married. 

Izuku is born. 

AFO has Hisashi kidnapped and tortured but keeps a close eye on Izuku in case Tenko doesn’t work out. 

Hisashi is tortured for years. 

Canon happens. 

Hisashi escapes and stumbles all the way back to his house where he, his wife, and son used to live. Only it’s torn apart and barely standing. 

He cries, thinking that they were casualties in the war. 

Mixing it with another theory, to make it extra angsty:

The theory I’m referencing: https://www.tumblr.com/vam1mav/754020429909409792/hi-again-d-i-have-nothing-to-do-and-well-i

So, you guys know the theory that AFO killed Hisashi and took his identity? Well, Hisashi being a Shimura would give him leverage to do that.

1. He gets to destroy a family in three different ways.

For Inko, it’s the implied SA and latent psychological torment she’s likely to go through once she realizes what happened. 

For Izuku, it’s another dig at his identity, the overwhelming guilt (for both his mom and ‘dad’), and a cherry on top of his incoming mental breakdown. 

And for Hisashi, it’s being taken from his wife, having his identity stripped away from him, and coming home to a family of two when he remembers it just being him and his wife.  

2. Depending on how the DNA changing quirk/disguise quirk that AFO has works, Izuku would still be related to Hisashi as well. 

In conclusion:

I don’t know what this theory would actually add to canon, especially considering that the manga’s ending in four chapters. 

Very fanfic-y, and I don’t really believe it. But Hori has pulled too many plot-twists for me not to consider other possibilities. 

Like I said at the beginning I’m a staunch believer that it’s Tenko, and I so badly want that to be true. But if it isn’t I wouldn’t mind having Hisashi revealed to us this way.

But please let it be Tenko.

And please let DFO be canon!

Because this theory also doesn’t explain half of what DFO would (the Nomu scooping Izuku up, Dr. Garaki being Izuku’s doctor….)

[senpaiquirks]

Anyone else notice that not only do Inko and Nana look similar, but Inko has a quirk similar to Nana's 'Float'? Seriously, Nana's kid ended up being quirkless the same as Izuku was.

There's a connection, I just feel it in my bones.

[purple-mind-slave]

Haha ain't it crazy how Kotaro Shimura is 5-6 years older than Inko in canon and he looks to be about 5 or 6 when he's left by Nana

Hahaah (°▽°)

꒰꒪꒫꒪⌯꒱

[dekubreaksbones]

Underneath is my full timeline for the events of BNHA. If I got anything wrong or there's any inconsistencies please tell me. My assumption for when Quirks first appeared is 2012, canon starting in 2044

2012 The Glowing baby is born 2014 AFO is born 2016 More children manifest quirks. Most are taken away by governments, killed, or abandoned 2024 Yoichi is born 2027 AFO discovers his quirk 2030 Quirk users start becoming adults. Revolts, protests, and such are happening 2031 AFO becomes a villain 2044 AFO gives Yoichi his quirk, OFA is created 2048 Yoichi gives OFA to Second, dies. 2051 Second gives OFA to Third, dies. AFO goes underground 2057 Third gives OFA to Hikage, dies. Hikage goes into hiding 2072 The HPSC is created, Banjo becomes a pro-hero 2075 Hikage gives OFA to Banjo, dies. 2085 Banjo gives OFA to En, dies. UA is founded 2087 Yagi is born 2089 En gives OFA to Nana, dies. 2098 Koutaro is born 2100 Endeavor is born 2101 Nana gives OFA to Yagi 2104 AFO kills Nana's husband 2105 Nana leaves Koutaro, dies. Yagi graduates UA, leaves to America. Inko is born 2110 Yagi returns to Japan, debuts as All Might 2112 All Might becomes the Number One Hero !(at age 26, 100 years after quirks manifested)! 2115 Aizawa, Yamada, and Shirakumo are born 2122 Touya is born 2123 Fuyumi is born 2125 Tomura is born 2126 Natsuo is born 2130 Tomura's quirk manifests, the Shimura family dies. Izuku and the rest of class 1-A is born 2132 Shirakumo dies 2135 Shouto is scarred, Rei is sent away, Touya "dies" 2139 Yagi and AFO fight, AFO presumed dead. Sir. Nighteye resigns from All Might's agency 2144 Yagi gives OFA to Izuku 2145 Canon starts (Yagi is 58, AFO is 141, Endeavor is 45, Inko is 40)

[anonymouseii]

Rrrrm what the scallop.

Half-assed theory but one reason is Deku has green and black hair? And that might be from his dad but plehh and Inko being Nana’s daughter would be a really cool reveal

[kaleis-kingdom]

The Shimura-Midoriya Cousins theory is well known at this point. But have we considered adding Aizawa Shouta to this family tree?

These are my reasons for why Shigaraki, Midoriya, and Aizawa are related in some way. (You don't have to take it seriously!)

1: Shigaraki and Midoriya share the same shoe brand. (Red with white sole.)

2: Shigaraki (USJ) and Aizawa share the same fashion sense. (Black shirt and pants, made to be comfy.)

3: Shigaraki has red eyes. When erasure is activated, Aizawa's eyes go red.

4: Pre-decay, Shigaraki's eyes and hair are black. Aizawa's hair and eyes (without quirk being used) are black.

5: Midoriya is born quirkless. Aizawa's quirk makes non-mutant quirk users unable to use their quirk (temporary quirkless.)

6: Shimura Nana's, Shigaraki's canonical grandmother, quirk is to be able to float herself. Midoriya Inko can float small objects. Aizawa Shouta's hair (and capture wrapon) floats when his quirk is in use.

7: Nana's hair is straight, Midoriya's is curly, and Aizawa's is wavy. Wavy is the midpoint between straight and curly.

8: Midoriya and Shigaraki are both Eraserhead fanboys.

Conclusion? Shigaraki needs to stop copying his family's fashion sense.

Also it'd be funny if this was why Shigaraki and Midoriya already knew Eraserhead.

[marunalu]

After your last post about Inko Shimura, I wondered why Nana, although she met with Izuku, did not recognize his appearance as similar to her husband? Well, like freckles, big eyes, although not so dark, but green hair color? about it?🤔🤔

Well first its all just speculating of course. Then there comes the fact that even if izuku has some of the physical traits of his grandfather inherited by his mother, he also still inherited traits from afo which is even more obvious now since afo is rewinding back to his teenage years and looks more and more like izuku. That means izuku is appearance wise a perfect mix of his parents and only if anything maybe just got a few traits of his grandfather from his mothers side. This mix of his parents dna makes izuku automatical look different then nanas husband even IF he got one or two things from him.

Then you need to consider even if for example inkos father had dark green hair like his daughter, izukus hair color varies between turquise or light green (in the manga) and the hair structure is the same as afos. Curly and fluffy, while nanas husband could have straight hair as far as we know or have a similar hair style then kotaro. We also have other characters in the story with big eyes like ochako or green hair like tsuyu and her family. Its not uncommon to have these, espicially in the mha universe.

There are also enough hints that the vestiges know of izukus parentage and just dont say anything.

[kianaisspiraling]

Hi hello yes. I don't typically post mha related stuff but this post possessed me to do a thing:

That moment when your son, who you had with the seventh user of your younger brother's quirk's daughter out of spite, gets adopted by the eighth user of said quirk, who's surrogate mother was the seventh, making her the grandmother of your child, and then proceeds to make your son the ninth user of your long dead younger brother's quirk. You also took in and manipulated seventh's other grandson to become the next you, but you are mortal enemies with whoever currently holds your brother's quirk, so you've accidentally made seventh's two grandsons, meaning they're cousins, mortal enemies too.

In conclusion: All For One, WHAT THE FUCK

The dad-for-one theory is ESPECIALLY fun if you pair it with the theory that Inko is Nana Shimura’s daughter.

Like “I’m gonna do everything in my infinite power to destroy the life of your son, I’m gonna take your grandson under my wing and use him for my own nefarious purposes, and I’m gonna fuck your daughter.”

[vam1mav]

|| THEORY TIMEEE ||

|| DAMN- ||

|| Imagine Afo having almost the same goal as Endeavor at some point: Combining Quirks. ||

|| What if Afo wanted to have a quirk that didn't have the same weakness as his, he wanted to have an All For One that could steal quirks from distance, and what better way to do it than having an heir? ||

|| But to have an heir, he needed a woman with a quirk that could attract things to her, and that's where Inko comes in ||

|| Her quirk was just what Afo needed, and on top of that, she was manipulable, she was perfect for the plan, but then a problem came in to ruin everything: Hisashi Midoriya ||

|| Most likely by that time they would be married and happy, and just that, was a problem for Afo but when he realized that Hisashi worked in Koga Construction, something came to his mind. ||

|| Afo began to monitor Hisashi and learn his behaviors with people and especially with Inko, and one day, Afo summoned Hisashi to "build" something for him, and when Hisashi arrived... Afo killed him. ||

|| After getting rid of the body, Afo using the Quirk to change appearance, he changed his appearance and took on Hisashi's. (Evidence that Afo does have a Quirk like that in the photo ↓) ||

|| "Hisashi" returned home with his wife, and after a month or more time, he convinces her to have a child ||

|| And well, then Izuku was born ||

|| It is more than obvious that the plan worked, since in the manga Izuku currently shows TOO many signs of having a quirk ||

|| So the question with this theory is... What happened? Why didn't Afo steal Izuku's quirk? ||

|| And don't tell me that "Maybe his quirk was like Yoichi's and they couldn't tell it was really there" BECAUSE THEY KNEW. ||

|| In this publication we are taught some human biology, and, in short, The Doctor Gairaki, lie, THIS BALD SON OF A BITCH LIED TO INKO AND IZUKU IN THEIR FUCKING FACE. ||

|| But why? Why Afo ordered the Doctor to lie?? Why not steal the quirk and say that Izuku was quirkless??? ||

|| For this I bring two possible reasons: ||

1) Izuku's quirk CANNOT be stolen by Afo so he just compressed it and waited for Izuku to decide on his own to be a villain so he could tell him the truth later, and then make him his true successor and the Prince of Demons.

2) Afo ended up becoming fond of Izuku because his appearance and behavior is similar to that of Yoichi, but as we already know...

someone died for using their quirk for the first time.. Soooo Izuku using his quirk didn't seem like a very good idea to Afo.

|| Either option can be possible, it could even be both! (I say this because Afo HAD MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO KILL IZUKU OR INKO AND NEVER DID ANYTHING TO THEM WHEN THAT PLUM BITCH KILLED NANA'S HUSBAND AND THE WHOLE FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF KUDOU-) ||

|| But well now we just have to wait to see how the Dad For One Theory will become canon ||

|| And remember! ||

|| Have hope that the theory will become reality! If Horikoshi already did something like this with Tomura/Tenko and with Dabi/Touya then the theory is not so crazy that it cannot be canonized! ||

|| Horikoshi never disappoints the fandom!! ||

✧ Credits to @gothicayomi and @zelyres for they incredible theories!✧

[20001541]

There's a small theory that I've had for a while but recently felt more validated after seeing what Hori said on the popularity poll livestream

The thing he said being this:

Which is interesting because we all know he infamously said back in 2018 that he planned on revealing Hisashi at some point in the story. Which as we know today never happens. So, it leaves us with the question, what happened?

Because in order for him to say this he must've had something in mind at the time for what he wanted to do with Hisashi. The first time we learn his name is in the BNHA Ultra Archive book that came out in 2016. Never officially translated into English btw so this is all we got.

Anyways this means he had something in mind for Hisashi for a while then, but then he changed his mind and kept him out of the story. He feels he put everyone and he wanted to put in the story and wouldn't change anything.

My theory is that he might've planned to make DFO a thing initially but decided it would be best if the story goes a different route and kept it out.

Because why else would you say you plan to reveal who is Hisashi is at some point only for your story to end with no sight of him? Not even a tiny mention. Let us not also forget how people pointed out that Inko's birthday 07/04 spells out nana shi in Japanese which is like Nana's name. It's also canon that All Might pointed out how her hair reminds him of Nana. So I wonder if he also planned on her being Nana's daughter and had AFO target her as a result. This was also something I found to be rumored among some Japanese fan forums. Even though the translations I got weren't great the little I could understand suggested it.

And even though I lost interest in DFO and stopped believing before the story ended this one panel has always stuck out to me.

Hori is insanely detailed oriented, like during Dabi's first appearance he's in front of a hair salon which foreshadowed that the hair colour he has now isn't his real one and was used as proof in Dabi is a Todoroki theory. So the fact that Hori chose to place the "my only family" bubble over a shot where Izuku is watching everything unfold stands out to me even now. Keep in mind this chapter released in 2018 which was the same year Hori said he planned to reveal Hisashi. Maybe could be me reaching, but still something to consider.

I'm not entirely sure of all of this actually and could be wrong. But it's an interesting theory as to what could've happened behind the scenes.

Another theory that I'm less sure of but can see it being possible is that the elements of the reveal he intended for DFO ended up being used for the reveal with Tomura.

Think about. It's actually crazy how similar the Tomura reveal in 419 was similar to what a lot of DFO fans were hoping for all these years.

AFO took on a whole new identity to get close to a civilian, he helped build the home Tomura would live in, played a part in Tomura's conception, he took away his original quirk, set Tomura up as a successor, and AFO had a big reveal moment that left Tomura devastated... like I remember several posts that theorized things like this about Izuku. The reason why AFO targeted Kotaro in the first place was because he was Nana's son and I remember that Inko being targeted for being Nana's daughter was a big part of the Inko Shimura theory.

I don't know for sure if this reveal was built off of his ideas for a DFO reveal he had initially planned. Really it depends on when he first created the idea of AFO being behind all the terrible things in Tomura's life and if he even had DFO in mind in the first place at some point.

But it's fascinating either way. Either DFO fans were right in how they interpreted some aspects of the story to suggest DFO were true and correctly guessed some aspects of the story that were recycled for a different reveal later on, or they were completely off the mark and by coincidence some of their theories for DFO ended up being eerily similar to how the 419 reveal ended up being.