#infernal devices imagine

[lily4731]

[wikitpowers]

just in case anybody forgot these cute church facts

sorry but this cat is the most iconic character ever

[culiehua]

Jem might have considered the fact that his childhood cat had the kitty fierceness of a little dragon (=xiao long) in hindsight BUT I guarantee you he named that cat after soup dumplings as a joke because cat in chinese is mao

xiao long bao — xiao long (mao)

like you CANNOT tell me that this wasn't baby!jem's exact train of thought. I bet he giggled to himself after naming him too

[clockwork-carstairs]

i’m always like damn why do herongraystairs have such a chokehold on me, why is their story so sad? and then i’m like. the human need for connection like that. to love and to be loved so much someone would give their life for yours, and you’d do the same for them. to have someone who’d fight so hard to live for you. to have someone who loved you for 130 years. to have someone who would risk everything and try everything to protect you. to know no world, not even death could ever truly separate you, because your souls were meant to find each other.

herongraystairs were just next level

[dayque]

Mina: Dad, don't you think it's strange that mom was married to someone before you?

Jem: Not at all, I think it is something very beautiful that she was able to love who she wanted, we can love several hearts in a life, even at the same time.

Mina: Have you loved another heart besides mom's?

Jem: Yes, with all my soul.

Mina: And what happened, you married them?

Jem: Some loves are not made to accompany each other as much as we wish, but I am sure that I loved him as much as I could, and he loved me back in his own way with all of him. But, I never managed to tell him in wath way I loved him. I didn't know it myself.

Mina: Can't you tell him now? Maybe you can call him.

Jem: Every day I try to remind him, maybe one day I will be able to hear his answer.

[heronstairstan]

truthfully it’s extremely humbling to realize i will never feel the way about a man that i do about jem carstairs

[disaster-top]

does enid have a fucking apple watch or am i going crazy

[caterpillarinacave]

[helenofblackthorns]

actually since making that Jessamine & Kit parallel post it got me wondering.... where was Jessamine during COT?? like she has a couple conversations with Lucie but other than that she doesn't do anything?? isn't it her job to protect the Institute & those who reside it 😭 like where was she when Tatiana broke in & stole a child or when Tatiana came to the Institute and killed Kit. where was she cc I want to know.

especially since in COHF there's a whole, semi-major plot point where she saves & protects the entirety of the London Institute from Sebastian. that was a big deal where's that energy now? Jessamine would have an absolute field day with the fact Tatiana's walking around in a 25 year old dress stained in her husband's blood too 💀

[aleswiftgron]

HEAR ME OUT

Will Herondale being played by Michael Sheen

That's it

[myangelbach]

I love this, so cool

I colorized TSC spines

Don't look at TDA's one though, it's this bad because I COULDN'T FIND A FULL PIC OKAY??😭😞 There were separate spines which I tried to put together....and apparently it didn't go well, the quality is shit and my day is ruined

[wikitpowers]

yeah i require a scene where kit trusts tessa enough to tell her about his feelings for ty like that would be so emotional, him finally opening up <3

[victorgrwrites]

Gortash Age/Timeline

For my prelude, see live footage of me at work below. (PS: Mac on the right there is basically my wife, she was very kind to let me ramble about this.)

Here we go. And I think it goes without saying, but spoilers ahead.

So, we have a better idea of Durge's timeline than Gortash, which is helpful since we know that they knew one another before the events of the game. On top of that, we know what each was doing when the other was doing something else. At least, to a point.

We'll start with Durge.

Exhibit A: We know that Sceleritas Fel appeared to Durge on their "age of majority", which is generally accepted to be 18. Could be 16, but we're going with 18 for the timeline.

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Exhibit B: We know that in the prequel Blood in Baldur's Gate, the main antagonist is Dark Urge, and Sceleritas himself appears multiple times in the story. We also know for a fact that this happens in 1477, 15 years before BG3.

Therefor, we know that Durge CANNOT BE YOUNGER than 18 in the year 1477, and therefor cannot be younger than 33 in BG3.

It's important to note for later on that at this point in Baldur's Gate in 1477, it is very likely Durge has already started the cult of Bhaal or is on the verge of starting it. --- Like I said, easy as Hell, now on to Gortash. Cause he is definitely trickier; we'll be needing to work backwards for this guy. Exhibit A:

Gortash is intent on making a memoir of his life, and has given us a helpful order of events, if without dates and such.

Exhibit B:

We'll start with the heist at the House of Wonders. If you don't know what the House of Wonders is, imagine a giant museum/research university run by NASA. It's a big fuckin' deal, and holds some insane things.

We don't know everything they stole, but we do know some. 1. A Bhaal torture device and some preserved Bhaalist bodies (unimportant for our conversation), and 2. Schematics which served as the basis for the Steel Watch, as well as the submersible.

((I can't find the specific screenshot for the Steel Watch schematics, but just trust me, it exists.)) We can assume that Karlach was sold right around this time, maybe before, most likely right after. The reason why she was sold around this time is because... ---

Exhibit C:

Karlach is a proto-prototype Steel Watcher, or at least of the infernal engines the Steel Watch use. What Gortash most likely got for Karlach were plans/materials/development for the infernal engines.

So let's recap. We now know that ten years ago Durge and Gortash pulled their heist, traded Karlach, figured out infernal engines, and started production or development on the Steel Watchers. Neither were the chosen of their gods yet, and the Crown of Karsus wasn't even on their radar.

Let's keep going. --- Exhibit D:

The first and second listings in Gortash's memoirs are him founding the Bane cult, and then discovering that there was a Bhaal cult already started. I would posit that Gortash established the Bane cult right around the time of the previously mentioned Blood in Baldur's Gate. At the bare minimum we know that Durge had to have been already active and Sceleritas already trying to guide him. So we can likely say that Gortash established the cult of Bane in 1477. Which means he was not in the House of Hope any longer in 1477.

The Crux of the Issue:

Here is where we get into speculation, and there's several questions we have to answer that don't have a clear answer. 1. How old was Gortash when he was sold off?

2. How old was he when he escaped the House of Hope?

3. How long after that did he establish the Cult of Bane?

I'll give you my answer for these questions, and my reason why.

Given my previous post, you might know that I subscribe to the idea that Gortash had a knack for artifice when he was young. There's no way a devil/warlock would pay even a small amount for a useless kid. So, at what age is a kid "useful" while still being a kid? My guess would be as old as ten, as young as eight.

Based on the conversation with Nubaldin, I would say he was still fairly young when he escaped. The way he talks about Gortash establishes that the jailor remembers Gortash as a 'sniveling little shit' and 'mischievous little blot of a boy'.

I would put him at about sixteen, absolute tops.

3. I believe he would have started the Bane cult very, very soon after leaving the House of Hope because I have a sneaking suspicion that Bane's influence started at the House of Hope. Might be how he escaped in the first place, or maybe he heard about Bane while there. Either way, I don't think he took very long.

In my head, he's probably around 17-19 when he starts the Bane cult. But also, if there's age discrepancies, this is probably where they come in.

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And there you have it. I don't focus on his in-game model much, because looks can vary so wildly. Especially when there's years of demonic torture, obsessive artifice study, and dead god cults. The game narratively describes him as a young man, so I generally erred on the side of "young" when figuring out this timeline.

If you've got questions, comments, additions, go on and lay them on me.

[clockwork-carstairs]

Jem the fighter

“It may be something people forget because Jem is delicate and plays the violin, but he’s a warrior. He fights like hell in all three books. He’s the one who teaches Will to fight”

i know cc meant "fights like hell" both about literal fighting (ie how jem taught will) and also largely jem's fierce will to live, but man it got me thinking about how good a shadowhunter he was. even when he was actively poisoned and dying he could still fight. i mean in clockwork prince in that scene where they scrabble outside yorkshire manor, it’s jem who bests will despite lacking will's build due to his sickness. at age 12 he was a perfect shot with knife throwing. when we see modern jem fighting, he’s always deadly. sometimes i wonder about an alternate world where jem was never ill, and how amazing a fighter he really could be, and how freaking OP jem would've been with cortana. and then i cry quietly. ah

[wikitpowers]

CECILY, MY LOVE. GOD I MISS HER <33

Cecily !! Wish there was more love for her

[witchlingcirce]

My dream is for every shadowhunter series to get a graphic novel version of them. ESPECIALLY The infernal devices!! Imagine how amazing it would be, just look at how gorgeous the TMI ones are:

So badly need the other series to be adapted like this as well!!

I actually think if TSC is ever to get another movie/tv show adaption it needs to be animated.