#industry PR

[vanhelsingapologist]

Publishing has always been a fucking nightmare, but now it’s a layer of hell. It’s not enough that writers be good at what they do. Writers have to maintain an active social media presence and cultivate a following. Be available.

They have to be conventionally attractive enough to look good enough to see on a screen, aesthetically pleasing, kind, funny, up-to-date on trends, socially aware but not so controversial that they turn off a brand from California from slapping their discount code on a video promoting a book.

They have to do all of this with no media training, with little help from the companies that are supposed to be doing this for them.

Of course, a lot of this isn't possible for say, the 40-something mother of two who teaches English at a school and writes on the side. She’s boxed out of an already complex industry that already has enough walls.

On some level, I think authors have always marketed themselves a little, but we’ve reached such a crazy point where we’re demanding the author become the influencer. Accessibility in publishing has narrowed from an inch to a sliver. And that inch was hard enough to get in as is.

[timblrdrake]

there are some posts sitting in my drafts that i think are so funny but i can’t post them because im like, ceo of a company or whatever and i have a reputation or something.

[wat3rm370n]

I just want fancy people to stop lecturing us. I'm not the one listening to right-wing tech bro stuff or rubbing hands together about guns. I'm not fangirling any killers, no matter how tragic or even relatable, but I'm also not interested in the veneration of some rich guy who ran an company that makes people's lives miserable and shortens them.

I'm not the one saying I want violence, I'm the one warning people that others are planning violence that's not really being reported by the media - and I'd like it to be prevented. I'm writing my reps and telling other people to write their reps. And I do this and push through like I've been told, through decades of being shamed into never speaking up against the "job creators" and pushing through.

So these fancy people need to shut up and stop telling me I have to feel bad about some fancy person I never even knew. I'm just not going to tune into any of it. I already unsubscribed Wendell Potter's substack immediately after seeing the phrase "violence has no place in our society" - not just because it's clueless, it is clueless - but because frankly I don't need these lectures and Potter shouldn't insult his audience like that. I also tuned out on a lot of others who felt the need to keep repeating violence is not the answer or violence has no place etc etc.

I get that some of these people are doing CYA, but seriously guys. The altar of politeness is a weapon you're turning on yourself. This genuflected curtsy that everyone does like they've been brainwashed is really terrible. I see it everywhere on a number of issues - people feeling the need to pre-undermine anything they're going to say by first embracing the opposition's shitty framing. If you are required to state something before you make a comment, you're already making the opposition's case for them. Am I the only one who sees this undermining everywhere? Nobody needs to address some crime in order to speak about the horrors of the private health insurance system in the U.S.

And besides, it is really easy to say violence is never desirable, while allowing that it absolutely is a part of every day society, and all of human history. You don't have to gaslight yourself and others, you really don't.

I keep thinking about the unhoused widow who had her belongings rousted and authorities took her late husband's ashes and threw them away and now she doesn't know where her husband's remains are - they said maybe he was taken to the dump. I have the ashes of 4 beloved cats and I can't imagine that. That was the remains of her husband. And I am haunted by this woman's story and the idea of that woman and her late husband being disrespected by people given such power - it makes me feel like I need to vomit at the violence of such a thing - and in a civilized society? Really?

The violence that is considered in fact completely legal to bring upon random people from merely suffering misfortunes - that rarely gets highlighted by the media hype machine because homeless people and others disadvantaged don't have PR teams. And that reality means that to say that "violence has no place in society" is incredibly preposterous, because the people saying it would absolutely say that the police have the right to violently restrain someone, and that people have right to fight back against an invasion from foreign military forces. When someone doesn't pay their rent, someone with a gun shows up eventually. What is that if not violence? Violence is absolutely given a place in society.

I'm sick of hearing this nonsense doublespeak frankly.

At almost the same time as the health insurance CEO was gunned down 2 children were shot in a murder suicide in California, and the day after in New York City, a migrant teen was stabbed to death by a group of men on the street. I did not hear about these things in the mainstream media or even the general discourse. I heard about one on Brittany Page’s youtube and the other on Robert Evans’s podcast.

Leave me alone about who or how or if I should grieve anyone. I just lost my 19 year old cat and I'm grieving my cat, and I don't have to grieve some rich guy I never knew and who wasn't nice to a lot of people. Give me a break. I just don't have to do that. And neither do you.

I really don't need to be lectured by fancy people about who I should grieve and what I should care about. I also don't need to be lectured about how "violence has no place in our society" (... war, executions, home evictions, homeless encampment demolitions, law enforcement use of force, medical decisions...??)

[twopoppies]

Hi, for someone who has been working from the industry, it is quite clear that Harry has to change his “womanizer” image sooner rather than later.

HS4 is almost ready, at least there has been quite some rumours and talks about it already, and it for sure is going to be a hit instantly. But the womanizer image should be let go, especially with how Harry actually is in real life. I don’t know what HSHQ’s plan is, but knowing their stubbornness and sometimes blatant ignorance they will just go with their usual PR and Harry will be linked with some dubious woman again in 2025.

However, the entertainment industry is leaning towards a more open and honest image from artists, sharing their personal opinions and values with their fanbase. This “womanizer” image is so clearly abstract from Harry’s real persona that it’s just not something they can keep up any longer, especially with Harry’s clear preference to dressing (gender)queer and proclaiming that love is love in a not so heteronormative way. It just doesn’t add up and we all know that the GP isn’t buying it either.

Just wanted to add my own view and what I have seen behind the screens to this discussion. Not that I’m saying a lot of new things, just confirming that what I have heard within the industry resonates with the fandom. From what I heard, HS4 is either going to make or break it, depending on how Harry is going to be portrayed over social media and news outlets. Not saying that Harry should come out, but they should stick to an image that is closer to Harry’s own personality and stop with the PR stunts with women. HSHQ, keep up with the trends!

100% agree with you.

I truly hope they change course with his image because it’s been nearly 15 years of this nonsense and the only people buying it are the girls who want to sleep with him, or people who hate him.

His team changes gears like the Titanic changes course, but I hope they’ve been paying attention to the direction trends are moving in. He’s been “single” for a while now. I’m cautiously optimistic. He’s let me down before… don’t do it again, Harry!

[daisiesonafield-blog]

For everyone who thinks Harry (or any celeb) doesn’t need PR 🥴

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[r0semultiverse]

Regardless of what PR speak is spoken, the early publishing with no officially available trailer or ads still feels like sabotage especially when it comes with the demand that it reach top 10 lest we “lose” Iron Lung (whatever that means unless it’s misinformation, I wish we had specifics and details, fuck Amazon).

[a-larry-retrospective-blog]

The thing that gets me, even 10+ years down the line, is that EVEN IF Harry and Louis were weirded out by people shipping them (which IS fair, but also: I think the blame can be shared 50/50 between fandom and pr people) to the point where it "ruined their friendship", we simply shouldn't have been able to notice it.

Like, that's the WHOLE POINT of having people who media train you and pr people: to present a nice image to the public. And 1D's image, like EVERY boyband out there, revolved around thinking the boys were all close, they were happy to be together forever. The reason people were so blindsided by Zayn leaving the band is that they had to pretend everything was fine and dandy even when it wasn't, and the public bought it.

I'm not saying that's a good thing, I'm not saying I'm happy with it, I'm saying that's the reason pr people and managements and every other behind the scenes part of the industry even EXISTS: to smooth out the wrinkles of the image presented to us. Boybands are supposed to be a UNITED FRONT. We as the public are not supposed to know about the skirmishes boys get into, because people would not root for a band where they know there's infighting.

If H&L were actually barely speaking during all those Years (and that's the thing that gets me, it was genuinely YEARS, not like, a bad week), as management their job should have been to force them into a Get Along Shirt and have them actually be professional and act like they did not have disagreements. It seriously makes NO SENSE to me after all these years that there were span of Months of interviews in which they barely interacted with each other and acted like the other one didn't exist, because if it was actually them not wanting to speak to each other, a good (by this I mean somewhat professional, not morally good) management would have said "suck it up and pretend you're still friends". That was their job! I cannot stress enough how this was PRECISELY a job for pr people! And they didn't do it!

So either they were so bad at their job they didn't even TRY to fix the public perception of the band, or having them pretending the other didn't exist was the best outcome. Which. You see how insanely suspicious that was? Like, even without taking into account whatever weird glances they threw at people in the crowd or the images of them hesitating to touch each other, the fact that the mainstream narrative was THIS and no one DARED to put a patch on it is insane in and of itself. It's honestly the dumbest thing whoever was in charge ever did for these boys' image

[bananonbinary]

i feel like more and more i'm seeing people get real mad about "cash grabs" in small media, and its SO weird to me cause like...yeah? people selling art are doing so to make money? what did you THINK was going on? just in the fandoms i enjoy, ive seen all the newer h*mestuck content, the m*gnus pr*tocol, and re: dr*cula get really really angry callout posts as if the fact that the creators made them to make money is some sort of dirty secret the op is "exposing." spin offs have ALWAYS been "cash grabs." sorry that artists like to eat i guess.

[harryiconstyles]

Oh no, Ana! What happened? It's June! You're a pathological liar who's been caught out yet again.

[curly94]

What are you even doing there???

The press will not stop before they get what they want

I hate it here

Update

Dailymail has reached out

☠️greedy fuckers

[therabbitthatpostthings]

My knowledge of Vtubers starts and stops with Kizuna Ai. The only reason I know of most big VTubers is because I genuinely am fascinated in the way model rigging works and because two singers I followed YEARS ago are now Vtubers (AmaLee and Bao The Whale)

With that being said, watching Nijisanji make the biggest PR mistake of their life over the past week has been the funniest shit ever. Like GODDAMN. I have learned more about the financial instability of this one company in three days than I ever have since the dawn of Vtubers. I have never been interested Vtubers before (aside from the two mentioned above cause I watched them when I was like 14), this situation alone has made me want to consume so much VTuber material.

Anyway good luck and great wishes on Doki's come back to the internet.

[mazes-and-the-madness]

hello fellow CSs, You know why industry keeps on doing stupid shit like this because people are stupid they always fall for it.

It’s annoying.

This who Sabrina thing was planned no way it just happened lol, gtfoh.

I for one don’t believe for a second that Shawmila was real, so people saying that June gloom is for him lol okay.

Some lines could be about him because pr bleeds into songs but nah, C and S were never romantically involved in reality and I don’t have to explain why.

Hope this whole fiasco finally puts Shawmila to rest for good because I can’t take it anymore.

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[twopoppies]

I think you didn't see aotv and I know most people focused on the F bits but there is an scene of Louis talking about 1d times with his family sitting on the floor of his grandparents house and he is trying to explain that he didn't know what he was getting into, being naive and young and that sometimes the way he behaved was not understood. His grandparents say something like they wish they, the suits, would have tried to understand him a bit more instead of putting a label on him. It reminded me of this https://twitter.com/KingTommoAlways/status/1745254589077553620?t=GEMQuc0JdsbvvFdHQ19wFA&s=19

It’s really hard to wrap your head around how much trauma this man has suffered.

x

[milfygerard]

gerard way ur simultaneous love and resentment of popular commercial culture and ur place/complicitly in it is so INTERESTING can i PLEASE eat ur pussy

[daisiesonafield-blog]

Maybe cut from the post was “marketing leak: Charli “leaks” list of “crazy” marketing PR stunts” 🧐

[the-casbah-way]

What do you think happened to Jamie?

he was fired full speed into the sun at point blank range 🥳