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Are you gay
Yeah, I am, actually!
For your mother!!!! 😧🥰
#I know who you are >:(#stop asking me this#nobody loves you... /j (or not)#I really don't like you#this was your first thought?#really?#immature ass#do better#boo hoo#I hope judyhoppslover69 comes for you#can you actually please stop#this is honestly getting old#like#please stop#what if I do ever actually end up being gay?#my first thought won't be to tell you#this is sad#my golly gee#just stop#ughhhh#I hope you.. umm.. can I say that?#I'm done with this#I'm coming for you#I don't care if it's pride#I'm gonna call you so many slurs#you better watch out#love you <3 (no I don't)#why you so obsessed with that question#why is the thought of my being gay on your mind all the time#that's pretty gay
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people protesting you can't ship lucy and the ghoul bc of the age gap are so fucking funny the man sold her organs for drugs, cut off her finger and lassoed her like a runaway calf; I get why THAT might turn you off (couldn't be me but like, I get it) but some of you looked at that situation and went "ew gross they can't smooch, he's old"
#it's so funny i'm sorry#also lucy is a grown ass adult not a baby#she was old enough in universe to get married and start having kids she's a mature woman#naivete in a new situation does not mean immaturity#lucy maclean#the ghoul#cooper howard#fallout#fallout show#fallout prime#vaultghoul#ghoulcy
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Now while I'm seeing more and MORE people deciding to Vote Blue in four months; for those who don't want to vote for Biden because you feel he doesn't deserve it or you're mad because of the Palestine issue; here's ANOTHER WAY to look at it.
Be COMPLETELY PETTY with it 😆 That's PART of the reason why I did it when I could vote back in 2020.
Look at your vote NOT as a vote for Biden but as a way to see the look on all of Trump's camps' faces.
Use it to see the look on Marjorie Taylor Green's face 🤣
Use it to see the look on Byron Donalds' face 🤣
Use it to see the look on Tomi Lahren's face 🤣
Use it to see the look on Candace Owens' face 🤣
Use it to see the look on Charlie Kirk's face 🤣
Use it to see the look on Ron Desantis' face 🤣
Use it to see the look on both Eric and Donald Trump Jr.'s faces 🤣
And LASTLY use it to see the look on Donald Trump's ugly pedophile rapist ass!!!!
Use your power to vote so we can see the UTTER MELTDOWN of all these dumb fucks should Trump lose!!
#anti trump#anti maga#fuck maga#fuck trump#fuck republikkkans#vote#vote blue#vote democrat#get out the vote#please vote#voting#get out there and vote#voting matters#politics#fucking vote#non anime#you can be COMPLETELY immature with your vote and use it for a petty and immature reason like that!! just KEEP his ass OUT of office!!!
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So long to the person you begged me to be
He's down, he's dead
He's gone, oh he's lost
He's flown, he's fled
Now take a good long look at what you've done to me
#I believe in copia’s corruption arc supremacy#you can’t just wear this evil ass jacket and be a nice guy all the time#let him be angry.#let him snap.#that what you get by raising emotionally immature person#the band ghost#the band ghost fanart#ghost copia#papa emeritus iv#fanart#the amazing devil#inspired by a song#sketch
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annoying little brother john teasing arthur about his crushes at the grown age of 26 (he’s been doing this since he was 12 and Will Not give it up)
#mor/stons DNI you guys are gross#while i was making this i was asking myself if john would even be this immature but then i remembered how much of a manchild he is in canon#the way one of his canon lines is ‘you couldn’t shoot a fart out of your own ass’ this man hasn’t matured past the age of 13#he’d unironically call arthur a poopoo head#red dead redemption 2#rdr2#rdr2 fanart#arthur morgan#charles smith#john marston#charthur#my art#digital art#fanart#sketches
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cw: probably ooc gen but oh well. this is more like me experimenting on how i should write him anyway.
narumi gen is a stubborn man, no matter what he steps his foot into.
arcade dates were frequent for you both. you aren’t too surprised, but sometimes gen could get so competitive in games that he tends to forget that you’re both in the arcade to spend some quality time in the first place. (you love him nonetheless, though.)
today isn’t any different. but here’s a reminder, narumi gen is a stubborn man; and he has made it his quest to win you a cute plushie in the claw machine. despite you telling him that it’s rigged, he doesn’t really care. “gen, we could just play something else.” you said, your eyes watching the now moving claw inside the machine. gen ignores you, as his eyes are enough to tell you that he’s fully concentrated on winning you that plushie—and that you might be stuck in this area for a while.
if there’s one thing about your boyfriend, gen is a man with little to no patience. he gets frustrated easily when he doesn’t get what he wants or when he loses a game when he plays on his console. he has a huge tendency to overreact to the smallest things. so you had a hunch that he would lose his patience over this claw machine sooner or later.
…or maybe now.
you jumped at the loud noise of gen slamming his fist onto the controller. you quickly pulled him away at the poor claw machine, afraid of causing a sudden scene in such a public place. “stupid ass claw machine. why are they always rigged?” he complains, slumping. “you know, you didn’t have to waste a good quarter of your tokens just to try and get me that plushie.” you giggled, soothly rubbing his back for comfort.
“saw you staring at it for a long while, though.” he mumbles.
“you should know that claw machines are always rigged, babe. we’re literally regulars at this place.”
“let’s go. i’ll just buy you something similar in a store.”
#( rambles )#kaiju no. 8 x reader#kn8 x reader#kaiju no. 8#kn8#narumi gen x reader#narumi x reader#gen x reader#gen narumi x reader#narumi gen#x reader#i had no idea if i shouldve written gen lashing out on a random ass claw machine in public tbh#bc like?? yeah hes childish and gets pissed easily but i dont think hes THAT immature to randomly make a scene in public ???#do u get me. like i just feel like he knows his boundaries whenever hes in public if u get what i mean#i have another idea for him ill do better on that one LOL
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scrolled a mile in the challengers tag to see if it was giffed yet and couldn’t find it but the windstorm scene with the red lighting and banger soundtrack and the camera following tashis back as she approaches patrick styling the whole thing like a final boss battle was soo DELICIOUS #cinema
#that whole sequence and them in the car before it were my fav scenes#also i loved in the car when she was like why am i here and he was like bc you’re stupid. bc it was such a friend jab#it was immature#and such a juxtaposition to how almost professional art and tashi act in their actual marriage#they need patrick’s crazy ass fr#challengers
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you can always tell when someone doesn't have maga men in their life and god it makes me angry.. "if you're nice and compassionate you can be the one woman that makes them realize women aren't mean!" my mom bent over backwards for my dad for 25 fucking years he has plenty of other women kissing his ass and it never changed anything. do you really think that before being radicalized they never knew a single kind woman? they were never friends with a nice girl? alt-right men's problem with women isn't just that they've experienced too many mean women and they need to be shown that women can be nice, it's that they think women are inferior and don't deserve rights and don't understand anything so you can do what you want with them. and it takes a lot more than being nice to show someone that you aren't inferior. this isn't a case of being nice even when it's hard for the sake of deradicalization, it's about spending every fucking interaction with someone trying to get them to see you as a human being with value and a functioning intellect while they just laugh and show you that's never going to happen.
i cannot stress this enough: random women are not just going out and Being Mean to men. ur average guy interacts with plenty of women throughout his life- close women amongst their friends and family, casual interactions etc. most people don't start out being shunned by women, they start out being treated as NORMAL. & when they show their disrespect in normal society, it isn't tolerated, but when they go to alt-right spaces (which they're pushed towards online) they're told they're allowed to be as horrible as they want with no consequences because they're entitled to everything. it isn't "women aren't welcoming and the alt-right is so friendly so i'll become alt-right," it's "women don't let me disrespect them and the alt-right tells me fuck them, do whatever you want, you're entitled to it all" and why would you choose the group where you have to be a normal accountable person when there's a group that will reward you for being a shithead who gives no fucks?
the alt-right can afford to be more friendly and welcoming because they can allow bigotry. this can't work the same way for progressive spaces because we can be as kind & welcoming as possible but at the end of the day we have lines where we have to say "this behavior/speech isn't allowed in this space," and for certain people, that just can't win against a space where you can be as nasty as you want. these posts always end with a disclaimer saying "of course being kind doesnt mean you need to tolerate their bigotries" but what they don't realize and what drives me crazy is that women not tolerating bigotry IS the "women are mean" that radicalized them in the first place. they perceive you pushing back on any bigotry or bullshit as you being a meanie and treating them like they're ontologically evil. the 'kindness' they need to be deradicalized is you letting them walk all over you.
idk what the answer is to deradicalizing them and im sure relationships are part of it but you can be as kind as you want and all it will do is destroy you ime. i cant stand to see people (who have never even successfully deradicalized any man by being nice btw they always speak in hypotheticals and not from experience) double down on telling women to do things that will see no results and only hurt them, especially when any woman who has tried can tell you exactly how it went
#being as nasty as possible & shitting on everyone while giving no fucks makes you popular in certain spaces. that's tempting no matter what#to immature ppl. part of growing up is learning that you cant do that and real relationships need you to not do that#but that sucks. you could just ignore it and join the alt-right to be a manchild forever#if ur an asshole who wld u wanna hang out with: ur wife who says please dont be an asshole to me or ur bros who say she's a hysterical bitc#& u did nothing wrong?#if u had a maga dad/brother/uncle & u heard the way they talk about women its never abt being mean lol#it's abt how women are hysterical & sensitive & get upset at everything they do#im so sorry but a normal guy (i know & am friends with many) doesnt simply become an MRA because his girl friends made 1 men suck joke#if a guy truly has no fulfilling friendships with women or girls to the point where some feminist group 'being too mean' can radicalize him#bc he doesnt have any kind women in his life to prove that wrong. he already had issues.#you reach a certain point in your friendship with these guys where youve been SO kind and so supportive and welcoming and played therapist#for ages and then they turn around and say 'im voting trump cuz i like his personality better lol i dont care about rights and that bs'#even if you can deradicalize someone by being kind thats years of insane unreciprocated energy for ONE guy#who will end up being the person who never posts abt feminism except to say i became alt right because women were mean so be nice girls!#nobody tells anyone else to accept full blown bigots in their spaces either much less BEFRIEND them#bc nobody is expected to do this kind of service except women. <3#eat ass.
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THIS IS NOT TARGETTED!!! THIS IS A COMMON PROBLEM!!!
There are quite literally no proships in MCSM[except obvious ones like animal x human ajd arguably old order/builders x new order/blaze rods and competitors x old builders]
Yes... even Romesse
Why?: Because depending on context, ALL SHIPS CAN BE TOXIC!!!
JESSKAS CAN BE TOXIC BECAUSE IF WRRE GETTING CRITICAL, JESSE CAN LITERALLY BE A DICK TO LUKAS IN ALL THE CHOICES!!!
JESSTRA CAN BE TOXIC BECAUSE YOU CAN BE A DICK TO PETRA, IF WERE BEIBG CRITICAL!!!!!
ALMOST EVERY SHIP IN SOME SORT OF CONTEXT CAN BE TOXIC!!!
BESIDES; SOME CHOICES YOU CAN REDEEM CHARACTERS!!!! IT'S NOT HARD TO UNDERSTAND!!!! I DONT EVEN LIKE ROMESSE YET I STILL KNOW IT'S NOT A PROSHIP!!!
ALL SHIPS NEED CONTEXT. IF THE CONTEXT IS ONE CHARACTER IS REDEEMED, AND TGE CHARACTERS ARE FINE WITH EACH OTHER, AND IS LEGAL, ITS FINE!!!! SO MANY SHIP FALL INTO THIS CATAGORY, AND THAT'S OKAY!!!
LUKXEL, AXDEN, ROMESSE, JESSKAS, JESSTRA, AND IVORREN ARE REALLY GOOD EXAMPLES!!!
THE BEST PART IS: THEY CAN BE EXES TOO, AND IT WON’T MATTER!!!
IT'S YOUR AU!!!! THERE'S NO CANON CHOICES, THERE'S NO CANON SHIPS, IT'S ALL UP TO YOU!!!!
IT'S ALL UP TO INTERPERTATION!!!!
But remember; JUST BECAUSE YOU HEADCANON OR THINK IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S CANON!!!!
I USE TO BE THOSE PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE HYPOCRITICAL ABOUT PEOPLE'S SHIPS, I'LL ADMIT!!! AND IT SUCKS!!!!
BUT; PEOPLE CAN CHANGE!!! And I hope it's what some people in this community do♡
#once again: THIS ISNT TARGETTED#THIS IS A COMMON ISSUE IN THE MCSM FANDOM#mcsm#the mcsm fandom can be so immature#mcsm fandom sucks ass💗#mcsm fandom criticism#mcsm fandom
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I'm gonna have to put up this oshamir au where 23 year old Qimir teaches 19 year old Osha how to pleasure herself, how to please him, and how to make love.
The experience was so good he couldn't help wanting more even if it was years ago so when he caught news that osha is back, he was waiting but didn't understand why she doesn't even acknowledge him.
So... Qimir is kinda Osha's secret teenage infatuation.
He's a few years older than her and definitely gets along more with Mae. Hell, even her friends get along with him better than her.
There was this one time when they slept together which she assumes he won't give any importance cause she definitely felt like he was somewhat out casting her in his close circle and that led to her nursing a broken heart well into her 20's.
so when osha came back she did not expect him leaning against his car, waiting for her.
#mygod this is another case of insecure osha#fratboy qimir you have to pay for your crimes#osha's feelings are not discovered by anyone so she healed by herself#qimir please fetch ur wife you have to stop being playful she's doubting your intentions#mae and the friends definitely knows qimir has something with osha even before he just doesn't know it#please don't act like an immature brat and isolate your crush folks#it will bite you back in the ass#oshamir
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“mor hates nesta because she’s allowed to hate the ABUSER of her best friend” would be a much more powerful statement if mor actually got on nesta for anything not related to cassian and the book didn’t very specifically spell out for us that she dislikes nesta because she fears losing cassian as a buffer between her and azriel
#anti morrigan#anti cassian#and#anti azriel#too#because NONE of them come out looking good in that situation#five hundred years?? five hundred years and not one person has grown a pair and said what they’re actually feeling#immature ass adult children#carly’s pro nesta propaganda#pro nesta archeron
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Didn't know what to draw so I drew Hermes and Dionysus, as one does
#digital art#artists on tumblr#greek mythology#greek gods#artwork#hermes#dionysus#hermes and dionysus#and for some reason that tag doesn't exust#WHAT#fanart#of that one statue#yk the one#colored art#sketch#doodle#baby dionysus is so cute help me#ive never really drawn a baby before so him looking kinda cute was a shock#grapes#why is that a tag?#hello?#tweaking#af#ibispaintx#sorry pulling tags out of my ass#big brother#material#hermes is that one big brother that just pulls up with embarrassing childhood stories out of nowhere#hes also the immature one#cuz ofc he is
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the bride and the ugly ass groom
*derogatory*
*lovingly*
#moral orel#more like 'the bride and the cheating lying gaslighting scum on earth ugly rat ass groom'#and 'the bride and the receding hairline in his 20s immature emotionally absent prone to addictions ugly ass groom'#principal fakey#millie spraybooth#clay puppington#bloberta hymentact#and in case of ms sculptham and mary plotwhist it would be just the bride and the bride both stunning and beautiful#the bride and the ugly ass groom
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the way the ericson group were at the outbreak just a bunch of troubled kids who made various mistakes or committed crimes and were judged by a system that punished and abandoned them instead of giving them the support and love they needed, are then nearly a decade later put into a situation where now they must judge a troubled child for the mistakes and crimes hes committed against them. and 5 to 3 vote them out 😭
#twdg#i love the way s4 connects back to lees whole 'murderer' thing back in s1 😭 guilt...atonement.....systems of punishment#i love thinking about s1>s4 themes and crying#anyway this is partially why i hate when i see the ericson cast reduced down to 'just some teens' its so much more than that#them being abandoned in a boarding school for troubled kids is SO IMPORTANT its not 'just some school'#anyway its also probably why theyre my favorite cast#theyre literally one of if not the most mature group of the series even while being a bunch of kids who make choices i dont agree with#because they actually love and care about each other. even when theyre mad. because theyre all they have left#i do think the vote was a fair way to handle it even tho i still ultimately find it cruel. they couldve talked it out#but this is still a story that needs conflict to resolve so is what it is#they would rather they leave than have to face their confused feelings. the most immature thing they do. but understandable#they did such a good job crafting that cast for clem GOD an entire ensemble built around her and aj....delicious#zombie/post apoc media about love and community my beloved 😭#sorry but get tf out of here with that 'humans are evil and everyone dies' lame ass bullshit we are nothing without community#the amount of love pouring out of s4 is like getting my ass kicked but then they give me a big hug and kiss after and send me on my way#s4 my absolute beloved i really love it more and more every time. so much to appreciate even with it the way it is#the themes bro the themes........ the connections between seasons 1 and 4 you are everything to me#it speaks
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How do you think about Frepper? I'm neutral about this ship, but the fans Frepper attitude towards confuses me, Ivy and Freckle have only been dating for a week and know each other superficially, but everyone already thinks that by the end of the comic they will get married, I think differently, I think that in the end they will break up with each other because they are too different personalities, I literally can't imagine that both of them will be happy with each other in marriage, Ivy is assertive and active, on the other hand Freckle is passive and just agrees with Ivy, this is not a guarantee of a healthy relationship where a partner completely dominates the other, plus to all that, I will not forget how their relationship started, Ivy just decided that they were dating, and without asking Freckle's permission, she just KISSED him, again without his permission, Frepper fans think that it's cute, but when I saw it, I thought "what the hell did I just see?", in general, it's strange for me that Frepper fans are okay with such things, of course later Freckle shows attraction to Ivy, showing that he likes her in some way too, but I still won't forget how their relationship started and how Freckle used to try to escape from Ivy when she squeezed his hand tightly and forced him to her …
I'm not against Frepper, but I don't understand his fans who don't see these issues and who treat other points of view on their relationship (like mine) as … um, as nonconformity? Fans from reddit are just obsessed with Frepper, I don't know about other networks but that's how it is on reddit, I think there are people who have my opinion but are afraid to say it because of fans, of course, I met Frepper fans there who normally accept such an opinion, but still there is a feeling that such a opinion cannot be told
Simply put, Ivy and Freckle are a couple that will eventually break up with each other unless there's an event between them in the comic that changes my opinion of this couple, but that's how I feel about Freckle for now. I didn't plan to express my opinion, but it happened that way, I hope you don't mind it
first and foremost, i don’t mind seeing someone express their opinion in my inbox! you and anyone else are free to do so, even if i may disagree. this blog’s entire existence was made for me to share my opinions ( and love! ) for lackadaisy, as well as engaging with other fans, because what else is the point of a fandom blog? and as far as i’m aware, this is unpopular opinion central! most of my thoughts aren’t exactly the ones with the most voice behind them i’ve found, so i welcome all manner of different views. every fan is entitled to their own perspectives and opinions, and should be allowed to share them as they please! but with that disclaimer out of the way, i’m more than willing to discuss frepper in its entirety.
for me, there’s little confusion i carry where it concerns this ship’s popularity amongst the fandom. freckle and ivy, if we are to strip them down to their bare essentials, are a rather stereotypically ‘cute’ relationship : people enjoy opposites ( see zibwick or vikdecai for example ) and there’s an endearing quality found in puppy love dynamics. seeing ivy wear the pants and drag a shy freckle around by his ankle makes for quality content in a way! think the ‘excuse me, but he asked for no pickles!’ meme … ivy and freckle very much fit that sort of mold, and it helps that most fans are too scared to ship them with other characters in the cast too, due to what they perceive to be a lack of options. thus, frepper is an extremely ‘safe’ ship! you cannot get in trouble for enjoying something that is not only canon, but is relatively adorable ; and so i don’t believe a lot of the fans are actually thinking too deeply about the likely endgame of it all. most don’t! it’s fun to ship, and that’s all they really need i think. it’s also very easy to dismiss ivy’s forwardness as a quirk of being a young girl who’s of her temperament, recklessly boycrazy although still carrying sweet intent. this behavior is easier to hand wave when neither ivy or freckle are experienced at the dating scene as well … freckle due to his extremely religious upbringing and hermit nature, and ivy because of viktor’s constant meddling, which would hold her back more than you’d think. with that said, i don’t think any of this is excessively complicated. some shippers are rather simple minded and do not care for details and characterization all too deeply. enjoying dynamics is, at its core, supposed to be fun -- which makes simple ships like frepper prime targets for a very vocal and tight knit fanbase. there are other things i could speculate about why these two may hit so pleasantly for others, like how there’s an underlying queer theme to it ( what with ivy being the pursuer and freckle the shy, blushing flower ) or that it’s tropey enough to hit the right spots for others … though it all boils back to mere speculation. perhaps they still have time to escape this gangster lifestyle and live happily ever after? and that appeals to the lackadaisy fans who still want some sort of happy ending? it’s all a combination of frepper being easy, i think, and containing two young cats who still haven’t done anything particularly ‘unforgivable’ yet action wise. this is a ship you can root for without an ounce of worry in your heart, and so on and so forth.
but although i understand why others are so vocal about them, i don’t exactly agree with fanon’s views either! while i heavily enjoy frepper, i enjoy them as they are, and that includes their looming flaws and inevitable tragedy. they are bound to break each other’s hearts a lot on their current path ; even if they were entirely perfect for one another, this lifestyle isn’t kind to anyone, meaning if they don’t separate, they could always be forced apart via bullets and such anyway. they are young and woefully inexperienced in a manner of things, the last thing they need is the stress of a rumrunner life driving their every action, you know? i know people see them getting out together, and that is likely on the table! i do see that in many ways, but i’m also of the opinion that ivy and freckle will diverge onto different paths at some point and temporarily call it quits. from where the comic currently stands and given my view on ivy’s arc, i see her growing disillusioned with where she is and the honor and fun she saw within it as a royal spectator will fade ; she will become wary, fearful, and her resilience will die … meanwhile freckle will embrace it, similar to his cousin, fully understanding what it is and what he’s getting into ( like rocky, again ) but being unable to leave his refuge. i know lots of people think freckle will leave the lackadaisy first, but given his old concepts and former title as one of mitzi’s ‘trouble boys’, i think he will become lost in the sauce for a myriad of reasons. frankly i enjoy that twist on their relationship! since i believe ivy’s character development will revolve around maturing, changing as time stretches forward, because her character is ever growing, what with her entire schtick being the fact she’s everything a 1920s girl was during those times. she embodies that unladylike youth and manipulative sweetness, so i’d imagine a lot of her path is falling from such naive thrill seeking and stumbling upon a harsh reality. she will mature, and the very thing that should make their relationship stronger will be what divides them indefinitely. everything they have is founded on this bloody, varnished soaked ground after all … they are young adults who are experiencing what closeness feels like outside of family or platonic friends for the first time, so naturally they will overindulge in their own amateur games ; find respite in the boogie and kiss like couples do on the silver screen, laugh about it, talk about everything and nothing at all … relish in each other’s warmth and stupidly loyal protection. i’m sure frepper will grow closer before any falling out, because as it stands, it’s one of the few things they have in such a scary situation that feels comforting and kind. they will impact each other in the fundamental ways first relationships do and, to move towards your biggest gripe, do things they’ll regret or allow things to happen to them that they’re not entirely okay with.
ivy is very forceful with freckle initially, albeit in her typical saturated way ; and i can see why that would be hard to parse! especially when freckle spends a majority of their first scenes together squirming away and hiding, trying to duck her affections and bolt for it. there is a lot of boundary crossing between them! but not in a necessarily malicious way … like most things with frepper, this circles back to their mutual inexperience and how, in a lot of ways, this is their first ‘serious’ romantic relationship ever. and it’s rather common for such firsts to involve gray areas, since neither party is entirely sure of what their own boundaries are just yet! while freckle did appear frightened by ivy at first, it’s important to note that tracy’s mentioned him having a flight response whenever girls flirt with him … he is prone to run away instinctively, which if you consider his extremely religious upbringing, isn’t exactly a surprise. nina would no doubt look down upon freckle engaging with girls his age due to what most girls his age are currently doing in the roaring 20s they’re living in. sneaking out and engaging in illegal activities, dancing in a way that would disgust most of the more traditional and older generation, casually engaging in any manner of sexual activity before marriage, etc etc. and this isn’t even listing freckle’s cagey nature due to an incident we know was bad enough to send rocky packing for years, and fundamentally changed freckle himself at such a young and impressionable age. he is … very troubled! and rather scared of himself and the world around him … at this stage in life, freckle is perpetually unable to make any progress towards anything he may want, and so i have little problem myself with ivy mostly taking the lead. when left to his own devices and allowed to choose outside of influence, freckle did in fact sneak out of his mother’s house to go to the lackadaisy, surely well aware that ivy’s intention had been romantically inclined. so, to me, he has always liked her ; perhaps found her cute, in a shallow way, saw her eccentric behavior as endearing and frightening in equal measure, and while he’s still wading into this whirlwind pool unsteady and shaken, he -- wouldn’t mind it if ivy pushed a little more, or moved him around to her ( and what she perceives to be, their ) liking. perhaps this dynamic is familiar enough to him that it becomes comforting, since rocky was very much the same way in their adolescence. tugging freckle around and pulling his tail for whatever rocky wanted them to do, with little care for whatever his baby cousin desired at the time, ignoring his protests and chasing him ; nobody’s at fault here either, kids are extremely self absorbed and this is a flaw they’ll usually mature past, and while ivy and freckle are adults during the comic, i don’t think ivy’s outgrown this linear view on things just yet. she is extremely entitled! she is used to being the apple of everyone’s eye at the speakeasy due to her jazz baby status as atlas may’s goddaughter, and this gangster connection excites and awes the ladies she attends classes with at her university too. ivy pepper is used to getting her way and this has only fueled her determined attitude, her ‘pull it up by the bootstraps’ mindset, and in many ways, this is something of a flaw for her. it’s not bad to be confident and headstrong, although when you add that into a dangerous mix of rumrunning and gunslinging, it may become a problem rather quickly. but i digress! point is, ivy and freckle are hardly at fault for the awkward way they handled the start of their relationship, when it’s so new and fresh to them both.
neither of them have boundaries at this moment, as they either have no clue what those are or simply haven’t realized they should set them. so, in turn, there are things that the other may do that could cause their partner discomfort … and it’s mostly done out of obliviousness and good intentions and your classic dose of intense affection. doesn’t mean it isn’t messed up to a degree, but i think it’s rather realistic, and is a hard truth that comes with many first relationships of that sort. sometimes you don’t know how to say ‘no,’ or you agree and regret agreeing later, or perhaps you simply don’t understand there’s certain things you aren’t ready for or genuinely just don’t like. again, it’s a very muddied area, and the two of them are vaguely navigating what is mostly foreign to them. they’re bound to mess up! so i ivy some slack here, and applaud tracy on the realistic writing more than anything usually. young love also happens to be a great device to use for inexperienced characters finding themselves, through the good and bad of their relationship, and frepper is all about that. maybe freckle will inevitably bring up how he feels like he would’ve preferred it had ivy asked him out properly, or gave him time to court her in a traditional fashion … and she will be surprised ( and a little wounded ) by this, since she had never considered it before … too used to her way of things to realize there’s another path they could take. i think this aspect of the relationship is important, and i can understand wishing that more frepper shippers would view it as such, or comment on it's morally gray nature without just calling it ‘cute’ and leaving it at that.
tldr : they will most certainly break up at some point, maybe even multiple times! tracy has said before that they both have some serious maturing to do if their relationship is to be long lasting, and i doubt that maturing will happen to them both at once … since they have different things to work on emotionally. but they will probably strongarm some major personal development within each other, as well as love one another with a fierceless abandon that most kids do. i could see them getting married, i could see them not, but i agree that if they were to be wed happily, they’d have significant hurdles to overcome. but personally, frepper is something i adore mostly due to the impact they’re bound to cause each other, and even if they are to separate and find someone new and more fitting, they’ll always remember one another -- perhaps fondly, and sadly, and with some anger. a time they’d like to forget, but a person they’d like to remember … which is my cup of tea overall! they much more interest me as they presently are anyway, where i can fiddle around with their budding romance and friendship bonding. and as lackadaisy grows in popularity, i do hope there’s more frepper fans who see their complexity and flaws and explore them with all of it in mind.
anyway! i hope this was coherent, and that it was obvious that i agreed with you for the most part. i haven’t really talked about frepper before with anyone so many of these thoughts sort of burst out of me! and i feel like i have more to elaborate upon, but for the sake of simplicity i kept this short. oh well! surely this is enjoyable and informative regardless.
#my asks.#lackadaisy analysis.#lackadaisy#freckle mcmurray#ivy pepper#as always frepper fans who just like them for their cute potential is SO valid#ship what you want how you want yada yada! i support you!!#but i’m here for discussing the good the bad and the ugly … so i was very happy to recieve this ask! thank you so much!!#i also understand what its like to share what you or others perceive to be the ‘wrong’ opinion about a ship or a character or something#so you have my sympathies and i hope you find better spaces to express yourself lackadaisy wise!!#anyway. yeah. i do think people are prone to view ivy as extremely experienced due to her many boyfriends!!#but given the fact she doesn’t date them LONG is. well it’s not an accurate assessment.#viktor ( bless his well intentioned heart ) has drastically thwarted that brand of maturity on ivy’s end#and has likely caused a sort of insecurity … by maiming her boyfriends and having them leave her. acting as if she has the plague!#that would hurt any girl’s feelings — if they didn’t know why. and i think these short lived flames have caused ivy to like …#speedrun her relationships? she is very quick to jump in and stay … because she fears the time limit perhaps. which adds to her forwardness#again! she had no idea it was viktor until the comic’s current events where she’s already WITH freckle. which is important to me#she is inexperienced in her own ways … freckle’s inexperience just happens to be more obvious due to the simplicity of it#god this was so fun to answer <3 thank you! again! hope my thoughts on the matter were decent enough#i’ll hush now with my over analyzing ass ( <- is it obvious my fave thing ever is characterization yet? lol )#( also cannot state enough freckle and ivy are Adults To Me. not five year olds!#but saying ‘young’ and ‘kid’ was easier than being like … emotionally immature and stunted adults every five seconds. so!#that is what i went with. for simplicity’s sake. but that are adults!! that is important! just very inexperienced ones )
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"[insert ship name] is problema-" SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!! NO SHIPS ARE FUCKING PROBLEMATIC EXCEPT ILLEGAL ONES[animal x human, old order x new order, new order x old builders]!!!!! WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT YOU SHIP!!!!! SHIP DISCOURSE IS FUCKING STUPID!!!!!! BE CRINGE!!!!! WHO CARES!!!!! ITS YOUR ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE!!!!!! SHIP WHAT YOU WANT!!!!!! DON'T LET OTHER PEOPLE DRAG YOU DOWN!!!!!! RISE UP AND SHIP WHAT YOU WANT!!!!!!
#this isnt targetted to one person#its a huge problem in the mcsm fandom#im fucking tired of it#mcsm#mcsm fandom criticism#mcsm fandom sucks ass💗#the mcsm fandom can be so immature#aster rambles
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