#im not tagging a post as hashtag racism sorry

[eros-vigilante]

issues w/ the octopath fandom, racism, and ableism

whats from the source

octopath does some racist bs quite frequently.

cotc (the mobile gacha) has an entire storyline filled with anti-indigenous and racist tropes.

the mainline octopath games have yet to design a traveler with curly hair, and frequently whitewashes the tan and dark-skinned characters in official artwork (compare these with the real ones; here's partitios official cotc splash art). ochette's hair especially is straight-as-a-ruler and silver. also worth considering eye colors. partitio is sad because his concept art had only one design where he's white and a couple even had dreadlocks, and yet his splash art refuses to match his sprite colors.

the beastlings... i'm white and have done more research on the tropes in cotc since i play it more, so while i did have thoughts of my own while playing, here is a better post i found that lists off all the bad choices about them.

also worth mentioning kaldena. one of the few dark-skinned characters in the game is a villain (and also has straight silver hair). other people have also broken down what choices in temenos' story around this were bad better than i could. i can't find a post with a quick search so if you want to reblog this to talk about it i will reblog/link it.

ableism. while i am a big fan of the autism-coding in the franchise, it's still true that there are a lot of jokes made in the games at the expense of osvald and cyrus (moreso cyrus). it's setting accurate for people to be mean to autistic people, but you're still supposed to laugh at "i guess cyrus isn't actually that smart!" which pushes the idea that autism affects intelligence and maturity. i think overall the autism representation is great (pspsps my essay) but it's definitely the source of some awful shit i've had to read people say about cyrus and osvald.

edit 1: friend reminded me of something i forgot that i only learned after talking to it about it a while ago: therion's story is actually really really weird in how it tries to frame cornelia and especially heathcote as helping therion when what they did is enslave him.

whats from the fandom

fanart whitewashing. there is a lot of fanart of therion and partitio with pale skin tones. there is fanart of olberic and ochette with significantly lighter/barely tan skin tones. i'm not going to find any to link because harassment and arguing is not the point of this post, but if you've looked through fanart you've seen it.

here's their skin tones blended. even with the highlights included, they're not white. i get it, their splash art is very ambiguous from the colorism, so if you weren't using the sprites: here's your new references.

ableism directed at cyrus and osvald. i've seen people complain about osvald's personality writing and then cite ptsd and autism symptoms, so many people call cyrus stupid, an idiot, or imply he is not mature. people assume/default hc that he is bad at adult activies. he is a thirty year old professor. it is his job to be mature, good with children, smart, etc. this is infantalization of an autistic character. it's a default assumption that the autistic man is below-average at adult functions.

infantalization of ochette. there are hcs and portrayals of ochette to be far less responsible and mature than she is in canon. she is the protector of her island, it is a theme of her story that she was forced to grow up more mature than everyone else. yes, she is funny, cheerful, energetic, but some fandom portrayals of her reduce her to just that, like she's a puppy. always being irresponsible, impulsive, etc. this matches to her dynamic with castti going from the sweet found family of their crossed path into "castti is the mother who needs to rein in this wild child"- and also consider how it looks to portray the only (consistently portrayed as) dark-skinned character as wild when she is responsible and mature in her story. similarly to cyrus, people tend to default to hcs that she would be bad at normal adult activities just because she has 'childish' traits.

what do you want me to do about it

eyedrop skintones from sprites or go darker for the guys who aren't white. consider changing their hair up, like using the concept art design for partitio. drawing characters of color differently from canon doesn't solve the racism in the game industry, but it is good practice for drawing poc and representing them more accurately.

don't... insult the autistic characters. there are things cyrus is canonically bad at that have nothing to do with his autism, like singing, but don't act like he's bad at everything that's not part of his interests. real people act how osvald does due to trauma. neither of them are two-dimensional in personality, they're written with nuance and a range of emotions outside of Being Autistic.

respect ochette more. are you portraying her as only silly or the savior of her home, or both? would someone who hasn't played ot2 know that ochette has overcome challenges based on your portrayal of her, or would they think she's a comedy relief?

learn about racism. learning about what kind of racist tropes are common in media and games helps a lot with recognizing it in other places, like the beastlings or kaldena. and most of all, learning about racist stereotypes and tropes makes you less likely to perpetuate them unintentionally.

putting the cotc racism essay down here so i can say that it has spoilers for Bestower of Power if you're a cotc player. it's different from the post i linked at the start; way more focused on just the anti-indig stereotypes in the villain's design.

the last thing i want to say is oh my god i love talking about this stuff so much. if you are confused about ANYTHING i talked about or want to talk about it more, or add your own experiences, or ask for recommendations, i love that shit. i made this because i believe most people who are really active in this fandom don't do this kind of stuff maliciously, and would benefit from just having a chance to talk about it. for some reason i am very into explaining/taking apart bigoted language, where it comes from, what it means etc. Please

[the-ghost-of-bit-the-hand1987]

I think a lot of people on this website need to learn two things: how to use the block button, and how to be the bigger person.

Like if someone says something you don't like, you can just block them. Obviously in some situations they are harassing people/being super racist/etc. and saying something/reporting them is necessary. But in most situations, you can just block someone and move on with your day. You don't have to tell them to kill themselves. I promise you it wont help the situation. Like if somebody really does have as awful of an opinion/belief as you believe them to have, a Tumblr ask is not going to change them as a person. Getting them banned or run-off the internet wont make them change their mind. It really wont.

Don't waste your energy on being hateful. Use it to actually do something productive. Use it to go show love to someone who needs it. I don't think you need to show love to people when you feel they're being shitty, no. But there are plenty of non-shitty people on this website who could really use a kind anon, or a reblog, or sweet message.

Do you really need to spend your time sending anon hate to a random trans woman on Tumblr who phrased a post a bit crudely? Or a black person who is complaining about your favorite show in a rude way? Or a Palestinian being upset with the U.S. government in an unpalatable way? Do you really need to spen your time being hateful/condesending towards them? The problem you have with them, whatever it be, is it truly unsolvable by just blocking them? Do you need to spread hatred? Is it necessary?

Chances are, it would be 1000 times more beneficial to everyone involved if you just block the person, and instead use that energy and effort to do something good/kind.

Just because you feel someone is shitty (weather they are or not is irrelevant) does not mean that you need to be shitty back. In the long run, it will always have been better to walk away and try to make the online world a kinder place, than to harass a random person on Tumblr.

Like I mean, I obviously think you should try like. Listening to people first before blocking them. Sometimes people are saying very important things. But either way, if something someone posts is making you upset enough where you feel the need to attack them or be rude/mean/hateful, then you should step away. Maybe you just need to step away from that person, or maybe the internet as a whole for a while. Either way, you need to take second and ask yourself: "Do I really need to do this?"

I'm not exactly sure why this is so hard for so many people, because I thought that this was something that cartoons taught everyone when we were little kids... But hey, its never too late to learn, and its never too late to be kind. There are a lot of people who could use that kindness right now. Take some of that time you might have used to be an asshole, and please spend it on some of these causes;

gazafunds

click for palestine

sudanese fundraisers

congo rescources

lots of trans folks need financial help in the notes of this post!

check out some black creators!

read this post!

and last of all: try to find somebody in your space who is struggling- be it physically, emotionally, mentally, or financially- and send them some love.

Use your time wisely, please. You only have so much of it.

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[cat-soap-opera]

I am…not usually someone who uses terms like “overreacting” but I literally cannot believe the overreaction people are having to the cloudsnap situation….like sorry not to be mean but it took me 0.2 seconds and $0.00 to google if cloudsnap was a new arc character, which immediately directed me to your post about it. By all means, make the internet a safe space for yourself. By all means expect people to respect you and your needs. But? It’s the internet. Maybe evaluate if you’re mentally fit enough to handle using this platform, and if youre gonna start a pissing contest over something that is literally not controllable, evaluate again.

yea, theres been this sorta "everyone else online is responsible for my mental health" mentality growing in online spaces for years now. like in comparison to stuff that gets spread around on tumblr, cloudsnap is very tame, not even inlcuding how easy it is to find context for whats going on n to block it.

im gonna be hashtag anti-finland for a moment (just bc its been on my mind today, n i think its a good way for me to put in perspective how Fucked the discourse is) n bring up how common it is for me to see posts by finnish ppl abt their "cool ancient finnish culture and mythology" that have hundreds of thousands of notes, and see its nothing but bastardized and stolen karelian (and often sámi and other indigenous ppls) beliefs being sold as finnish. and sometimes these ppl are profting off of doing that! theres ppl on tumblr who have etsy shops where they can "tell you your luonto/soul animal" for actual money! theres ppl selling books abt "ancient finnish beliefs" that are based on research done by finnish ppl who robbed my ppls graves, measured our skulls n killed us for being "too filthy to live", all the while stealing our culture and beliefs, and these books are heavily recommended by ppl on this site as "sources for finnish paganism"!! and these ppl do not care abt the damage theyre doing, and will either ignore any criticism or spit in our face.

and the difference between cloudsnap and That (besides like. the fucking obvious) is that me n other karelians cant just blacklist those posts n move on like u can w cloudsnap. w cloudsnap u can blaclist the tags, block ppl posting abt it, u can go outside n forget abt it.

anti-karelian racism will always follow me into my real life interactions w other ppl, it will affect how me n my peers can practice our own culture. it affects how our ppl and language are treated by the government.

cloudsnap is a fake canon cat for a kids fictional cat fantasy book series who u can cut out of ur life easily.

[angeloncewas]

dont wanna make this ask long bc i am tired and dont have the energy to be a well spoken (?) person rn but it probably will be long anyways, so sorry!! but like. as somebody who has hyperfixated on both idubbbz and schlatt (along with a plethora of other problematic content creators, i really know how to fuckn pick em!!) they absolutely foster a dogshit community, at least outside of platforms like tumblr, where like. you cant really avoid fandom culture like you can on twitter or ig, if that makes sense. on here, if you wanna post about your favorite youtuber, whether you tag it or not, other fans will likely see and if you say some bad shit, you will likely get called on it, whereas on ig basically only your followers will see it even if you use a hashtag and on twitter its like if you arent in a subtwt/fandom then you basically dont interact with any subtwt at all unless its an accident, ya know?

so like. i think what im trying to say here is that while ive met a lot of fans of both these creators, especially schlatt, who are great people as far as i can tell, i am also specifically on the fandom side of things and as soon as i step out of that space i realize that a lot of people who watch them are not actually minorities like me and my mutuals who can catch on to satire or who watch their more behind the scenes stuff where you can see them act like a decent person or even call out people for the things they usually joke about which just. fucking sucks. it sucks that, as much as i do believe schlatt is actually a good person (and sort of idubbbz, although i dont really watch him much anymore for a plethora of reasons, mostly related to the fact that i cant stand his jokes anymore even if he is playing a character as he's said before), he also keeps doing terrible fucking things and im really glad his actual friends have been calling him on it recently, especially after that jackbox video (which is a whole other thing on its own bc it literally seemed like nobody wanted to be there basically the entire video?? like as somebody who watched all the jackbox videos before that one, it was really fucking off in that call and the jokes were next level fucking upsetting), but sometimes it's just kinda like. exhausting. bc his community is already fucking bad now, you cant undo accidentally fostering a community of fucking racist homophobes who dont get that you're playing a character, unless you kinda drop off and build a whole new community from that, which would be stupid to do at this point in his career. not really sure where i was going with this tbh, but i thought i would chime in on this discussion as a viewer of mainly schlatt, but also a past idubbbz viewer who is basically a seasoned fucking vet at dealing with shitty fanbases because of him and many other dumb youtube white boys

(also, note on that anisa thing: ian's main fanbase was definitely pissed just bc she does sex work and a lot of them are too fucking young or just too fucking dense i guess to clock the fact that he's putting on an act bc, like i said before, they either dont watch his behind the scenes content, or they do and they kinda just miss those moments between still trying to entertain where he gets genuine. that being said, a lot of people outside of his fanbase were also pissy bc anisa is a less than spectacular lady if you really do your research on her, kind of a bad person but it's not something a lot of people know about, especially since one of the few videos made on it was by fucking creepshow art)

sorry for the rant again, i feel like i do this every other week now and i apologize, you just seem to have the best discourse and i enjoy partaking <3 hope you have a good rest of your day/night/whatever time you're reading this!

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Thank you for the input (don't mind the rant !) and I hope you have a good rest of your day too <3 For post length, I'll answer under the cut :)

Yeah, I get what you mean (I think ahdsufsd). Fandom as a concept is pretty... I don't even know how to describe it, but it's the kind of thing that I feel like white male Redditors would think of as pussy shit, y'know? Like the Ricegum gang isn't a fucking "fandom" they're a... well, a fandom, but they're not gonna admit to that. So when you step outside of a community like Tumblr (the queerest place on the internet TM) you come into contact with the faces of the fandom you're dealing with and oftentimes they're a lot less like you than you might've thought from the similar interest. It's like going to a Weezer concert and realizing you're surrounded by incels (this is a JOKE).

Satire's a rough topic because some people don't think it should exist at all. Like any words that can be directly interpreted as bigoted or problematic should not be uttered. I disagree with that, I think it's one of the most interesting forms of both social commentary and comedy, but I do see the problem. There are people who watched Filthy Frank (to take an example from that other anon) and didn't know or care what the point of his actions were (I don't know what they were tbh - I never watched him, but it sounds like he's a pretty decent dude) and instead read his jokes as-is. There are thousands upon thousands of people who aren't gonna get satire and that's a problem because if they're already bigoted they're gonna see people like Schlatt and iDubbz and whoever else as truly validating.

(Largely unrelated but yo, is iDubbz still going? Are the views alright? Is the adsense popping? Has he just kept going with Content Cops? I haven't heard about him since the girlfriend thing dropped.)

"you cant undo accidentally fostering a community of fucking racist homophobes who dont get that you're playing a character, unless you kinda drop off and build a whole new community from that"

I think this is what's pertinent when it comes to discussing Schlatt. After the Jackbox video (for me at least, he might've been there before) he put himself at a crossroads. If he'd apologized, said "sorry, I took it too far, that was a mistake" - yeah, plenty of people wouldn't have forgiven him and plenty of bigoted fans of his would've said that the apology was just to placate the snowflakes on Twitter, but to the sort of in-between people it would've shown that he's able to recognize and reconcile his mistakes. He could've transitioned into content that's A) actually good (when I say that the video was bad I don't just mean in terms of racism, I mean it straight up was not entertaining) and B) less "edgy" for the sake of. I wouldn't expect him to go uwu squeaky clean, but he's already reeled in the bad people, so if he really wanted to foster a good, progressive audience, he has to do something significant to show that.

But he didn't.

Maybe for the sake of his career, maybe because he likes those bigoted fans, maybe because he just doesn't get it - I don't know. I don't think we'll ever know. I spoke earlier about doing what is right over what is easy and in the case of Schlatt it just feels like he really did take the easy way out. Whoever he is in his personal life doesn't change how he's perceived online and the kinds of people that are idolizing him for it.

(And yeah I saw the video on Anisa when I Googled her to check if they were still dating, but then I saw who it was made by and I was like oh well whatever avhfdfkj)

[annavysoul]

hi! this is in no way any Hate at all lol don't worry but could you Maybe use a different hashtag instead of the bts tarot one?

your posts are nice and entertaining but it would be best to keep them on your blog instead of the hashtag because it could potentially make the people who do tarot readings in this community more time to find, and the posts you're posting doesn't really have anything to do with tarot, I know it is about bts but it's not a reading or anything of the sort.

just telling ya!

once again no Hate at all but spamming the hashtag could do more harm than good

Hi!!

i was thinking about this since yesterday lol like i know im spamming like crazy but also i dont know what hashtag to use bc this issue start in this community and also if u analyze in a macro perspective, we really are talking about the people who fantasizes about bts members and how dangerous its for all u know? more racism in the fandom, toxic behavior, etc. So idk! maybe i should go for the big fish and tag all this in the bts hashtag and probably i will be burn to death jk LOL but idk i think for now this belong here u know?

Im so sorry for the readers whose post are drowning in my spam, but then again, i think this awareness is necessary in the community and i think #bts tarot its my main goal audience for now

maybe i should include like a card or something to make it more tarot related(? idk but im open to suggestions

but thank u so much!!! 🥺🥺 i will try to think about what can i do

[pyrten]

im gonna start off by apologizing for the rambling in this post about technoblade's situation. twitter is just grating on my nerves hard, and having all this happen to someone I hyperfixate on is, "buries face in hands".

And if this post isn't phrased all that well and I gave off the wrong vibes, my apologies. I don't have any ill intention towards the minorities affected in this situation, and if you want a certain line rephrased to accurately reflect my real meaning/message/intentions (but it didn't because I sucked at phrasing it) uh replies. DM. Ask. Whatever works to reach me.

To anyone who's affected by it too, whether it's because he's your hyperfixation, or not and you're just generally worried. Stay off twitter yeah, hope you're doing alright, uh have some water.

CW! Twitter Discourse , Ableism , Mentions of Asian Hate and Harassment.

Stop reading if you know well that it will trigger you. Please scroll past. Find a cute cat picture, maybe.

So, new hashtag trending. Wonderful, congratulations people on Twitter involved, you did something! You did something you thought was good! Good job! (/s)

this sounds super rude but, what the fuck mate? what was going through your mind when trending #kick-insert techno's real name- ? You had good intentions to call out people who deciding doxxing techno is okay. I can respect that, but tweeting about it with the hashtag? That's what gets it trending. Multitude of people tagging it.

how much traction did the og tweet of the doxxing get? how much attention was pulled to the situation AFTER the hashtag trended?

have anyone ever thought that, someone with, horrible anxiety, would reply to such a stressful situation? that maybe their mental health is on the brink after this shit?

Call him out on the bad shit he's done, that's fine. Good for you. But to this point of not considering someone else's side and expecting someone who's ND to rise to your NT standards is a pure shit move.

A week to apologize?

Look, I get it. It's been going on for awhile. But, who gave him a week to apologize? The minorites ACTUALLY affected? If so, that's alright, you're tired of waiting. That's fine. I can't say much. The only one I can say much about is the covid joke he made since I'm Chinese . I don't live in China, but I'm definitely Asian nonetheless.

Have you seen the full clip? Or did you only focus on the single part. He didn't completely disregard the Asian harassment and hate. He said before he made the joke: "horrific racism aside" .

And yes, I don't speak for the entire community, I know some people are hurt by the joke, especially (observation based) if you found out about the joke around this period of time where COVID is far worse compared to Feb 2020 when the joke was made. that's fine. Just because me and my friends aren't hurt doesn't mean you should be the same.

It's fine to ask for an apology, but to chase an apology to the point you're carrying out blatant heavy harassment towards another person is not okay.

But anyways, a week to apologize?

But if the one who gave this deadline isn't minorities actually affected? If it's the ones being performative and said "hey! You have a week to say sorry!" ?

ಠ‿ಠ what bro.

People are really chill with the easy side of adhd aren't they? Hm? Once the tough stuff about adhd comes up and shows itself, people really just flip faces quick huh? So quickly. Actually, no, once the tough stuff about a ND persons disorder comes up, flip.

shhhhh. listen hey hey hey hello listen. s h h h h h h h h don't say no more words. shush. sealed. keep your lips closed.

Claps clap yay I'm done weeeee. (not /s). I'm keeping this off the main Technoblade tag as this is more of a rant and it's definitely much heavier.