#ilyagender

[ryanyflags]

A List of Gender Terms !

So I disappeared for 2 months, but I finally completed this project! :D (Though I've been making some random posts talking about it, so it's not like I was really gone, or what I was working on wasn't obvious.)

It started off as me having trouble keeping track of a couple gender terms (and also not knowing they existed before, since I've never really seen people talk about them), then I thought I should make a list, and if I was going to do that I might as well post it to help other people too. Which I started out trying to make that list on Tumblr, but I found it too limiting so I moved to google docs, which I also found too limiting (I just couldn't achieve my vision, if you will), and now I know html and css.

As usual, I kinda overdid it, but I think I should be a little proud of myself. I had 0 knowledge of html and css, and 2 months later I've made my own website. (I could have made it much quicker, but I often had to take breaks, a bit overwhelmed by all that new stuff.)

Anyways, it has a ton of terms on there.

I have sections for nonbinary, abinary, midbinary, atrinary, midtrinary, androgyne, agender, neutrois, maverique, ilyagender, aporagender, outherine, kenochoric, and xenogender.

For 7 categories (sex terms, adult, general term, child, gender quality, gender-quality-in-nature genders, and spectrum / -iagender spectrum).

And they all have sources on both Archive Today, Wayback Machine, and if still existing, the original post too. (At least to the best of my abilities, and there are a couple of exceptions that I couldn't figure out.)

I did put effort into this, but it's possible I missed something. So if I made a mistake anywhere, or if anyone has any extra information to add on, or if you just have some comments, you can tell me. My ask box is open, but comments on this post would probably be fine too.

Also, I checked on a couple of different browsers, mobile too, and read up on web accessibility and checked and all that (I tried using a screen reader, I'm not a pro at it though, so it's possible I may have missed something obvious), so I hope the website itself is useable. But if there's any bugs there, just tell me (it'll be appreciated).

I'm also thinking of making another compilation, but for flags (for all of the terms listed here), and maybe orientations too, but maybe later haha

I also don't know how to write a image id for the top picture, if anyone wants to write to one I'll add it.

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Below the cut is a short little video scrolling through the site.

[your-bigender-big-brother]

Exiel: An ilyagender with a very vague or soft feeling of gender. It is similar to demi-ilyagender, but with an overall weak inner sense of gender, and is not inherently a uingender or amingender.

Ilyagender is not male, female, or anything neutral and is a tangible presence of gender. In this case, exiel is a very weak presence of gender that might feel like it barely exists or it might even feel fleeting. It exists in the same way as air, something you know exists and you generally know what it's made of, but is a very passively existing unseen thing.

This term may be used as a noun or an adjective depending on preference: "I am an exiel." / "I am exiel."

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[isobug]

ilyasex

"ilya" coming from ilyagender ( which is further specified and defined here ) and actually standing for "il y a", which means "there exists (a sex)".

more simply, having a tangible presence of a sex / sex modality, one which is not male, female, neutral, or null in any way, nor between or a combination or derivation. it is a sex / sex modality that is defined by it's own existence.

one who is ilyasex is not necessarily ilyagender ( or ilya- in any other way ) and anyone who finds it useful may use it.

the flag was made by combining this format of sex / sex modality flag with colors from the ilyagender flag. I added the white outline on the central triangle for contrast and to maintain the color since it's present on many sex / sex modality flags.

Made as a request but free for anyone to use anywhere!

Taglist - @radiomogai, @varsex-pride, @ryanyflags

[stormy-talks]

I need some help with terms.

Can someone explain to me the difference between ilyagender and péra in a way that is easy to understand?

I understand ilyagender is not male, female, neutral, or null. Péra is the same but its definition goes out of its way to explain that it is not gender apathy or confusion about one's gender.

Is that the distinction? That ilyagender can often include apathy or confusion?

It also seems that péra can combine with or derive from other genders whereas ilyagender doesn't do that. Is that the distinction instead?

Please help! I am so fascinated by outherinity and just want to make sure I can understand it all!

[neopronouns]

Would you coin a ilyagender diminutive term? so a ilyagender equivalent to boy, girl, enby, xip, hex, etc.

here's my idea: enfil [pt: enfil]

'ilya' comes from french 'il y a', so i wanted a french-inspired diminutive term as well. in french, 'enfant' refers to a child, 'fils' refers to a son (specifically sons not boys, which is garçon) and 'fille' refers to either a girl or a daughter, so i combined the three into 'enfil', which also shares the 'il' with 'ilya'!

@radiomogai

[theoutherlings]

Ilyaginity

Ilyaginity is a term I coined last year to describe the quality of Ilyagender and genders related, similar, derived from it.

(Here the archived version of the coining post I made last year)

Ilyagine genders are all characterised by a tangible sense of gender that's neither feminine/masculine/neutral nor derived, a mix/in between, similar, or in any way related to those three main qualities, while being neither xenine nor a lack of gender/beyond the concept of gender.

The gender nature is ILYIN; and its viagender counterpart is ILYIA.

The Ilyagine flag

[the ilyagine flag]

[ID: The ilyagine flag has six horizontal stripes, each of a different colour. The colours, from top to bottom, are: brown, light tan, dark grey, beige, yellow-ish orange, pastel orange. All the stripes are the same size./END ID]

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Ilya-alignment: Albireian

[PT: ilya-alignment: albireian]

A term for someone who is ilya-aligned. Having an alignment towards ilyagenderness.

Some ways to be albireian:

Someone who is partially ilyagender.

Someone who has some sort of connection to ilyagenderness, regardless of actual gender.

Someone who has a gender similar to, but not the same as ilyagender.

Someone who is ilyingender/connected to ilyaginity regardless of actual gender.

A non-binary individual who presents ilyaginely, regardless of actual gender.

Someone connected to ilyagenderness through their experience with society. They may be treated as and/or have experiences similar to that of Ilyagender.

The term "albireian" comes from the star Albireo.

The albireian flag:

[ID: A flag with five horizontal stripes, all of different colours. From top to bottom, these are: brown, orange, light yellow. /END ID]

Albireian coining post (archived)

Some Ilyagine genders:

[PT: some ilyagine genders]

Ilyagender: The OG ilya- gender. Coined by Epochyphal in 2014, who defined it as "having a tangible presence of gender, one which is not man, woman, neutral, or agender in any way, nor between or a combination or derivation."

Proxilya: Coined by me (archived here). It's the circabinary equivalent of ilyagender and its definition is: "A gender near ilyagender. It's relative to ilyagender, but separate and entirely on its own. It's proximal to ilyagender in the gender spectrum."

[ID: A flag with four horizontal stripe, from top to bottom: dark brown, dark yellowish-brown, yellowish brown, and pastel tan.All the stripes are the same width./End ID]

Ilyaen: A generic monolexic word that any ilyagender or otherwise ilyagine gendered person can use. The Ilyagine/Ilyagender equivalent to (wer)man/woman. (archived)

[ID: A flag with four horizontal stripes, from top to bottom: brown, light grey-ish brown, light orange, and orange. The two middle stripes are slightly wider than the top and bottom ones. /End ID]

[themaveriqueagenda]

i refuse to believe that the maverique experience* - gender disconnected from manhood, womanhood, genderlessness and neutrality - is really as uncommon as it seems. there's no way there's so few of us.

i feel like it's more likely that people who have the same or a similar gendered experience as us just use different labels: maybe they're pera or aliagender or ilyagender, maybe they're aporagender or outherine, maybe they use slightly broader labels like aphorian or abinary, maybe they use labels that "technically don't apply". i know of at least one neutrois person who has said that technically maverique describes them better but they have used neutrous for so long because it's all there was when they came out and it feels more comfortable, and i personally identified as agender before finding the label maverique. with maveriques having so little visibility, i wouldn't be surprised if other people existed who either decide to use a label that's a bit more well-known or who simply don't know maverique exists, despite having a similar gendered experience.

but even adding all the people who use the above labels together (except for agender because it's a very common label), there's still barely any of us. i regularly search through aphorian, abinary, maverique, neutrous, ilyagender, aliagender, outherine, aporagender etc. tags on various social media and there's barely any of us.

but i'm pretty sure there are people with genders same or similar to ours who just use really broad terms, like genderqueer, nonbinary or trans.

i'm very sure that many people who use those very broad labels actually do have genders at least somewhat like ours, but don't like specific labels, don't like the words people have come up with or simply don't know they exist.

and these are all valid reasons to identify as anything other than maverique. but at the same time, it makes it really hard for maveriques (or apora-umbrella people in general) to find community, to find people like us in the sea of men, women, mascs and fems.

i KNOW there are more like us, but i can't connect. this is why maveriques and other aporagender people need visibility, so we can connect to each other and so that more people might find that one of these terms describes their gender.

*i'm aware there are some labels that are very similar or almost synonymous to maverique and that the same experience could be called a pera experience or an outherine experience or an ilyagender experience, but this is a maverique blog.

[gender-buddies]

Gender Buddy: Ilyagender (134/180)

Level: 2 Element: X FRND: 74 PWR: 105

Abilities: Chatter: An excitable string of babble from a Buddy that’s overly excited. Pulse Switch: The overall energetic aura of the Buddy changes its elemental alignment.

Bio: This Buddy wades through shallow water, rooting around for plants to eat using its long beak. It will spend all day moving from place to place, eating, and napping. Other Buddies enjoy hitching a ride on its back if they don't want to touch the water. Every morning, it lets out a loud call to attract other Ilyagender Buddies to come join it for some grazing. It doesn't move very fast.

[stormy-talks]

I keep asking a lot of questions here and you've been inactive for a while but I'm so curious: What do you mean that demiboy is related to neutral? What does neutrality mean to you in the context of being related to it?

Hi! I'm one of the mods at Ask Pride Color Schemes, and I have a question about ilyagender. Would you consider it the same thing as aporagender, since the definition is pretty much the same (a gender that's not related to the binary, or to gender neutrality, but exists), or is there a difference between the two? (I can see the difference between those and aliagender and maverique, btw.)

Hello!  I would not consider them the same, and mmmm okay let me dig into this.

The history, as best I can reconstruct it:

0.  Words like neutrois are being used to mean sometimes “a neutral gender,” sometimes “a lack of gender that feels neutral.”

I.  Alia (Latin prefix meaning ”other”) is coined by @zobothehob0 with @askanonbinary.  Its definition is “A gender experience which is “other”, or stands apart from existing gender constructs.”  It was created to describe a sense of being othered.

II.  Alia is then decried as racist/appropriative(/US-centric).  It is called a “whitewashing of third gender.”

III.  Apora (Greek prefix meaning “separate”) is coined specifically to replace alia.  Its definition is “a gender separate from male, female, and anything in between while still having a very strong and specific gendered feeling.”  It is both a specific gender and an umbrella term.

IV.  Maverique (from “maverick”) is coined by @queerascat, and doesn’t attach to gender (”maveriquegender” is not a thing).  Its definition is “a gender characterized by autonomy and inner conviction regarding a sense of self that is entirely independent of male/masculinity, female/femininity or anything which derives from the two while still being neither without gender nor of a neutral gender.”

V.  Ilya (French grammatical construction “il y a” meaning  “there exists”) is coined by me.  Its definition is “having a tangible presence of gender, one which is not man, woman, neutral, or agender in any way, nor between or a combination or derivation.”

This is how I see it:

The yellow is where I’m not sure if that was intended to be covered by the definition?  So it might be!  But I’m not clear, and I wanted a word that was super clear.

For instance, demiboy is related to male and related to neutral, and I’m not sure if apora as an umbrella term includes that?

I also feel like there are multiple genders of this type, so I feel there is value in having multiple words, and that each has its own flavor.  Like, synonyms still have value and different contexts for use, yeah?  The words other, separate, autonomous all have different feelings to me.

More informally… I really like being able to just say, Oh, my gender?  It Sure Exists. Do I know what it’s like?  Well, do you know what your gender is like?  How would you describe it?  Doesn’t it all just come down, “not like this or that or those ones, kind of but not quite like these”?

Anyway.

I haven’t spoken much about it because I’m really nervous about it getting, beyond my control and redefined the way quoi did?  Quoi is still to me very much about, interrogating whether a supposedly universal experience is a useful model.  It’s resistance, much like queer sometimes is.  And when I coined it I wasn’t nearly as personally attached to it as I am now, and as I am with ilya.

And ilya feels like a very different kind of resistance, not a challenge-to and opt-out-of model in the frustrated throws up hands way I often use quoi after trying for ages to fit my weird-shaped peg into any hole; instead ilya feels like sort of a chill, not even gonna bother with all those holes, I’m just existing, thanks.

jazz hands.  Words.

[edited to add:]  Oh!  And since associated colors might be relevant - I like orange, brown, and grey…

[ryanyflags]

binary ✦ ilyagender ✦ outherine [pt: binary, ilyagender, outherine]

Some simple colour edits, like what I did here :)

↓ References: ✦ binary flag (by @beyond-mogai-pride-flags / @arco-pluris) ✦ ilyagender flag (by @xeno-aligned) ✦ outherine flag (by @imoga-pride)

They're pretty much the same as the originals, I just wanted to change the colours to be less saturated (in the case of binary), and add some hue shift (like I think the original ilyagender colours are all the same hue?).

[your-bigender-big-brother]

Undel: An ilyagender that ebbs and flows through nonspecific genders or qualities. One's inner sense of gender itself might feel like it changes on a small scale, sometimes imperceptibly or in a way that's hard to describe other than being outherine in some way.

The reason I created this was partly experimental, partly something that might be helpful. I see a lot of terms relating to an "inner sense of gender" - maverique has a strong inner sense of gender while ilyagender is more... passive? It exists as a gender that is not male, female, or neutral and then that's all there pretty much is to it.

I saw that the coiner of ilyagender was okay with ilya becoming an umbrella term as long as it was not rebinarized or neutralized (as explained here.) This inspired me to look into the other aspects of this gender and emphasize them - in this case, the inner sense of gender and the nonspecific existence were the parts I wanted to look into. Like, ilya is simply a gender and it doesn't have any specific placement other than it's not X, Y, or Z. That's fun, especially when it's not an ambiguous gender or a uingender.

"Undel" comes from "undulate" (as in movement) with a unique -el ending so that it didn't have the -gender ending that most terms have. I'd say undel can be an adjective or a noun to make it flexible - "I am undel." / "I am an undel."

The flag is an edit of the ilyagender flag. The center stripe is a more purple color reminiscent of my ilyagender redesign. The other colors are lighter and more reddish to sort of complement that purple.

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[stormy-talks]

What is an inner sense of gender? What does it mean to have a strong inner sense of gender? Is it the opposite of terms like uingender or gender apathy? Is the lack of an inner sense of gender the same as a lack of gender identity, and is therefore agender?

I see "inner sense of gender" mentioned in the definitions of maverique and ilyagender. I want to know more about what this means and how we can expand this topic to encompass other gender experiences.

[describe-things]

[ID: A pride flag with eight horizontal stripes of different widths, largest at the top and bottom and center, and thinner in between those. From top to bottom the stripes are: Orange, pastel orange, tan, dark grey, tan, darker tan, and warm brown. End ID.]

Archived link to original coining post.

original post quoted:

ilyagender: il y a un genre, qui est tangible, et n’est pas homme ou femme ou neutre ou agenre en aucune façon, pas entre ces identités et pas une combinaison ou dérivation. ok my french is rusty but it’s apparently how i coin my words. especially since “il y a” gender literally means “there exists (a gender)” like, yes, one which has been a struggle to name imo. (just, ilya is such a pleasing sound ok (and amusingly like backwards alia)). and like: having a tangible presence of gender, one which is not man, woman, neutral, or agender in any way, nor between or a combination or derivation. related: aliagender, aporagender, maverique. this word brought to you by frustration, months if not years of thought, and acupuncture state of consciousness

@epochryphal​, i know it’s been a while since you coined ilyagender, but what do you think of this for a flag?

you said in a post about ilyagender that you associated it with orange, grey and brown, so i used those. the orange is lifted directly from the maverique flag, since the terms are so similar. 

[ilyagender: having a tangible¹ presence of gender, one which is not man, woman, neutral, or agender in any way, nor between or a combination or derivation. related: aliagender, aporagender, maverique. ¹tangible; extant; positive]

[givemecoins]

Other Les- terms

[pt: Other Les- terms/end pt]

[Addition to this post]

1. Lesapora (lesbian + aporagender); 2. Lesilya (lesbian + ilyagender); 3. Lesalia (lesbian + aliagender); 4. Lesnull (lesbian + gendernull).

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T: @radiomogai

[themaveriqueagenda]

shoutout to maveriques who also identify as aporagender, aliagender or ilyagender. your labels are so cool 💛

[your-queer-dad]

hi, i think i need some advice and i’m not sure who else to go to,,, this is my first time asking anyone here so i’m a little nervous lol but yeah

anyway i’m ilyagender and i think i have some pretty nasty internalized phobias to work out, like i’ve done some mean things because of it (like outing friends) and i think it’s making me doubt my identity as Not Cis because i don’t have dysphoria.

i’m not sure what i’m saying lmao but do you have any advice on how to deal with that? i wanna be confident in knowing who i am and know how to handle situations where it could come into play

it seems so hard :(

thanks so much

- bug

Hey kiddo!

First of all, I completely understand where you're coming from. In a society not meant for us, we do internalise a lot of things and your past mistakes don't define who you are now. Working on internalised bigotry is a process and it takes a lot of time and conscious effort. It won't happen overnight, but small steps every day or stepping back and considering things is the best thing you can do. There isn't a perfect stage of being the best trans person you can be, that's not how it works- we're people after all. But making a conscious effort to acknowledge those biases and putting them to one side is a really good thing to do.

Secondly, not having dysphoria definitely doesn't mean you're cis, despite what others say. Only you can define your identity and how you feel. I personally feel less dysphoria then I used to. It doesn't make you less of a trans person, it's a feeling and not everyone has it.

I think you're doing so well already and I'm really proud of you. Feel free to reach out if you have any problems.

- dad x