#igamon

[morgannox]

No. 60 - Ninjamon

One of those rare times where the vibe just worked.

[digi-lov]

Ninjamon BT11-050 by koki from BT-11 Booster Dimensional Phase

This card of Ninjamon references the Item Shop (and Secret Shop downstairs) from Digimon World, featuring many of the Digimon that run them.

[holly-natnicole]

If Team 7 were DigiDestineds (Part 2):

Naruto & (in her Coronamon form) Kurama matrix digivolving results in

Apollomon.

Aside from becoming Sakuyamon, other matrix digivolutions of Kurama (in her Renamon form) & Naruto result in:

MikoSakuyamon;

MikoKuzuhamon; or,

Kuzuhamon.

When digivolving from her Renamon form, Kurama sometimes becomes

Yōkomon then

Dōmon.

When digivolving from her Renamon form, Kurama sometimes becomes

Reppamon.

When digivolving from her Coronamon form, Kurama sometimes becomes

Fangmon or

Igamon or

Frogmon.

The total number of forms Kurama has is 17 and the total number of forms Naruto has is 6 (1 regular human form & 5 Mega Digimon forms which are the result of matrix digivolving with Kurama whenever the duo's platonic partnership/friendship peaks).

[deeceeoh]

Been a while since I posted one of those 'my personal digimon partner' things.

In this case, it's STILL Elecmon, though I had recently decided to add in a second evolution line which utilized Igamon, Fumamon, and Tactimon.

Teeeechnically this is the third evo line, but with the headcanon I thought up the second line was actually forced onto Elecmon in an attempt to have it become a vessel so that the Olympian God Jupitermon could manifest on earth.

Examon would also be listed here as a one time 'evolution' of MedievalDukemon, utilizing an obscure evolution method that I found on the digimon wiki.

[adragoninshiningarmour]

Griff, a challenge for you! If you want to try it, write a Digimon name for each letter of the alphabet without searching it online.

Sure! Picking the first ones that come to mind. Alphamon Betamon Coatlmon Deramon Exermon Flaremon Gokimon Herissmon Igamon Justimon Keramon Loogamon Mamemon Nohemon Opossomon Plesiomon Quartzmon Raguelmon Searchmon Tactimon Upamon Veedramon Wendimon XVmon Yasyamon Z'dGarurumon

I almost got stuck on Q and X, but managed to remember those. I'll also take this chance to mention that Part 2 of Chapter 88 is coming out tomorrow! Stay tuned.

[otakween]

Digimon Data Squad (Savers) - Episode 30

Woah, episode 30 already? This season is going by fast. I feel like it has less defined "arcs" compared to some past seasons, they all kind of just bleed into each other. I like it, feels more natural and helps with pacing.

This episode still had the uglies, but I enjoyed the writing more and it wasn't as important of an episode, so I can let it slide. Just hope we see an improvement soon.

Notes:

I totally thought that Eldoradimon was Xuanwumon, but Eldoradimon is a lot cooler imo. Prettiest shots of the episode featured him so that's clearly where they put in the most effort.

New Japanese OP! I did not see that coming at this point in the show, but it's clear that they needed to wait for the ultimate digivolutions to be revealed since it heavily features them. I'm glad Ikuto finally gets his time to shine too. I think I prefer this one a lot more as a song. The first one was kinda hard to sing along to, kind of talking more than singing.

Was happy to see Pumpmon this time of year. They gave him a stupid Igor voice in the dub tho lol. Cuter in the sub.

Why do they keep tying Digimon characters to poles in this franchise? At least they weren't crucified this time...

I laughed when Tohma said "what, no lawyer?"

When Cerberumon showed up the narrator said "this digimon is said to guard the gates of Hell." How...does that work? Does the digital world have a Hell? Does Cerberumon guard the human world Hell? So many questions...

Tohma acting jealous of Masaru's dad felt kinda forced for some reason. I feel like it's weird for him to be jealous of a dad who's been absent from Masaru's life? (Also that scene was just really poorly animated which ruined any chance it had of making me sympathetic lol)

Ikuto returning with the Igamon was very on brand. I wish we could get a new outfit for Ikuto, I feel like we've seen the other characters in a couple different ones but Ikuto's always looking the same. (I get that it makes sense with his circumstances, but still!)

So my question of "what is Kurata using the digimon's energy for?" was answered. I still wonder about the origins of how he met the human villain trio and why they agreed to become his experiments? Seems like something that would be good for a prequel light novel.

[jthedrake2]

Total drama file Island

After tons of work thinking, redoing and analyzing. I have redone my Digimon total drama crossover, and in this one every contestant and host gets a partner. It’s not much a serious au as if it was, it would be a much smaller cast and have a more interesting plot.

Also if this were to be a competition fic, then l would have it like this.

First boot- Rookie only

Premerge- Rookie -> Champion

Merge- Rookie -> Ultimate

Finalist- Rookie -> Mega

The main exceptions to this would be

The hosts- All would have access to all their levels, Commonly staying in ultimate level and be at mega in the finale.

Ezekiel, He would be Rookie only in island, Champion in world tour, Ultimate in Revenge and Mega in All stars

Scarlett would also achieve mega due to taking over the island and the contestants would have to fight her off.

Ridonculus race, It doesn’t have a merge so it would be

18th: Rookie only

17th -> 10th: Rookie to Champion

9th -> 3rd: Rookie to ultimate

Finalists- Rookie to mega

For all the partners, I’ve tried to make sure that all of them match their personality, reference a talent they have, the team they’re apart of, an episode they play a part in, or I just think they look good with the Digimon I chose. Also keep in mind that Digimon can become anything and isn’t linear, so yeah some lines will get very weird at times. Also yes, I’m also using appmon for some of them cause they fit and if I didn’t we would have even more repeats.

Island

Chris mclean: Monmon -> Targetmon -> Etemon -> Kingetemon

Chef Hatchet: Ebiburgamon -> Burgamon -> Digitamamon -> Titamon

Ezekiel: Gizamon -> Nohemon -> Zamielmon -> Diablomon

Noah: Igneetmon -> Namakemon -> Wisemon -> Ancientwisemon

Justin: Mirrormon -> Mercuremon -> Knightmon -> Bloomlordmon

Katie: Pawnchessmon black -> Knightchessmon black -> Rookchessmon -> Queenchessmon

Tyler: Pulsemon -> Dogmon -> Shootmon -> Banchomamemon

Cody: Luxmon -> Aegiomon -> Monzaemon -> Jupitermon

Beth: Chuumon -> Opossumon -> Cho-Hakkaimon -> Lovelyangemon

Sadie: Pawnchessmon white -> Knightchessmon white -> Bishopchessmon -> Kingchessmon

Courntey: Kudamon 2006 -> Darcmon -> Hippogriffomon -> Ofanimon falldown mode

Harold: Kotemon -> Igamon -> Fumamon -> Justimon

Eva: Candlemon -> Meramon -> Deathmeramon -> Shroudmon

Trent: Otamamon -> Gekomon -> Shogungekomon -> Plesiomon

Bridgette: Swimmon -> Dolphmon -> Whamon -> Ancientmermaimon

Lindsay: Tinkermon -> Kazemon -> Shutumon -> Venusmon

DJ: Terriermon -> Rabbitmon -> Luminamon -> Anubismon

Izzy: Keramon -> Airdramon -> Orochimon -> Nidhoggmon

Geoff: Kamemon -> Gwappamon -> Shaujinmon -> Neptunemon

Leshawna: Pomumon -> Parasaurmon -> Ajatarmon -> Bancholilymon

Mr. Coconut: Mushmon -> Woodmon -> Jyarimon -> Xuwanumon

Duncan: Impmon -> Flawizardmon -> Baalmon -> Beelzemon

Heather: Funbeemon -> Flymon -> Ladydevimon -> Lilithmon

Gwen: Renamon -> Youkomon -> Doumon -> Kuzuhamon

Owen: Perorimon -> Burpmon -> Gerbemon -> Bacchusmon

World tour

Blaineley: Kodokugumon -> Dokugumon -> Arukenimon -> Parasimon

Josh: Demidevimon -> Blackgatomon -> Mummymon -> Pharaohmon

Sierra: Monitamon -> Pteramon -> Weddinmon -> Junomon

Alejandro: Patamon -> Pidmon -> Astamon -> Daemon

Revenge

Staci: Bacomon -> Numemon -> Black king Numemon -> Puppetmon

B: Junkmon -> Kenkimon -> Valvemon -> Vulcanasmon

Dawn: Floramon -> Kiwimon -> Delumon -> Ceresmon

Sam: Herissmon -> Filmon -> Stefilmon -> Rasenmon

Brick: Spadamon -> Leomon -> Grapleomon -> Bancholeomon -> Chaosmon

Anne Maria: Syakomon -> Ranamon -> Calamaramon -> Mervamon

Dakota: Lalamon -> Sunflowmon -> Blossomon -> Hydramon

Mike: Gammamon -> Betalgammamon -> Canowiessmon -> Siriusmon

Svetlana and Vito: Klausgammamon

Chester and Manitoba: Wezen Gammamon

Mal: Gammamon -> GulusGammamon -> Regulusmon -> Arcturusmon

Jo: Goblimon -> Orgemon -> Rebellimon -> Darkdramon -> Chaosmon

Scott: Tyutyumon -> Vilemon -> Jokermon -> Piedmon

Zoey: Guilmon -> Growlmon -> Wargrowlmon -> Gallantmon

Lightning: Elecmon violet -> Bulkmon -> Footmon -> Kazuchimon

Cameron: Morphomon -> Butterflymon -> Andromon -> Hiandromon

Fang: Gaossmon -> Tylomon -> Marinekimeramon -> Regalecusmon (a bonus)

Pahkitew

Beardo: Musimon -> Mediamon -> Entermon -> Ouranosmon

Leonard: Neemon -> Wizardmon -> Mistymon -> Dynasmon

Amy: Lopmon -> Wendigomon -> Antylamon -> Cherubimon vice

Rodney: Hawkmon -> Cockatrimon -> Sinduramon -> Boltmon

Sammy: Lopmon -> Turuiemon -> Antylamon(deva) -> Cherubimon virtue

Ella: Biyomon -> Unimon -> Sirenmon -> Magnadramon

Topher: Monmon -> Hanumon -> Makuramon -> Metaletemon

Dave: Gomamon -> Gesomon -> Marinedevimon -> Cthyllamon

Scarlett: Hagurumon -> Mechanorimon -> Datamon -> Chaosdramon

Max: Protogizmon -> Gizumon AT -> Gizumon XT -> Ebemon

Jasmine: Dorumon -> Dorugamon -> Dorugreymon -> Alphamon

Sugar: Gazimon -> Boarmon -> Vikaralamon -> Gulfmon

Sky: Gaomon -> Blackgaogamon -> Blackmachgaogamon -> Achilliesmon

Shawn: Bearmon -> Porcupamon -> Ghilledhumon -> Eldoradimon

Ridonculus race

Don: Penmon -> Frigimon -> Locomon -> Aegisdramon

L.A.R.P.E.R.S

Leonard: Neemon -> Wizardmon -> Mistymon -> Dynasmon

Tammy: Bokomon -> Witchmon -> Warudamon -> Crusadermon

Tennis Rivals

Pete: Panbachimon -> Mojyamon -> Giromon -> Jijimon

Gerry: Panbachimon -> Jungle Mojyamon -> Tekkamon -> Babamon

The Geniuses

Mary: Kokabuterimon -> Kabuterimon -> Megakabuterimon -> Herculeskabuterimon

Ellody: Tentomon -> Bladekuwagamon -> Metallifekuwagamon -> Tyrantkabuterimon

The Vegans

Laurie: Pillowmon -> Sheepmon -> Pajiramon -> Mitamamon

Miles: Armadillomon -> Bullmon -> Vajramon -> Sleipmon

The Fashion Bloggers

Tom: Palmon -> Togemon -> Lillymon -> Rosemon -> Rafflesimon

Jen: Aluramon -> Vegiemon -> Lilamon -> Lotusmon -> Rafflesimon

Mother and Daughter

Kelly: Salamon -> Meicoomon -> Meicrackmon -> Rasielmon

Taylor: Salamon -> Mikemon -> Bastemon -> Raguelmon

The Adversity Twins

Mickey: Dokunemon -> Snimon -> Jewelbeemon -> Grandiskuwagamon

Jay: Kunemon -> Kuwagamon -> Okuwamon -> Grandkuwagamon

The Step Brothers

Chet: Vorvomon -> Lavorvomon -> Lavogaritamon -> Volcanicdramon

Lorenzo: Jazemon -> Jazardmon -> Jazarichmon -> Metallicdramon

The Rockers

Rock: Shoutmon -> Kingshoutmon -> Volcamon -> Omnishoutmon

Spud: Dondokomon —> Balistamon —> Atlurmonbalistamon —> Ancientbeetlemon

Father and Son

Dwayne: Dracomon -> Coredramon green -> Groundramon -> Breakdramon -> Examon

Junior: Dracomon -> Coredramon blue -> Wingdramon -> Slayerdramon -> Examon

Reality TV pros

Owen: Perorimon -> Burpmon -> Gerbemon -> Bacchusmon

Noah: Igneetmon -> Namakemon -> Wisemon -> Ancientwisemon

The Goths

Crimson: Dracumon -> Sangloupmon -> Matadormon -> Grandracmon

Ennui: Tsukaimon -> Pipismon -> Myotismon -> Venommyotismon

The Daters/Haters

Ryan: Ludomon -> Tialudomon -> Raijinludomon -> Bwyludramon -> Ragnalordmon

Stephanie: Zubamon -> Zubaeagrmon -> Duramon -> Durandamon -> Ragnalordmon

Best friends

Devin: Agumon -> Greymon -> Metalgreymon -> Wargreymon -> Omnimon

Carrie: Gabumon -> Garurumon -> Weregarurumon -> Metalgarurumon -> Omnimon

The Sisters

Emma: Lunamon -> Lekismon -> Crescemon -> Dianamon -> Gracenovamon

Kitty: Coronamon -> Firamon -> Flaremon -> Apollomon -> Gracenovamon

The Ice dancers

Jacques: Blucomon -> Paledramon -> Cryspaledramon -> Hexablumon

Josse: Snowgoblimon -> Icedevimon -> Skullsatamon -> Done Devimon

The Police cadets

MacArthur: Commandramon -> Hi-Commandramon -> Tankdramon -> Brigadramon

Sanders: Kokuwamon -> Deputymon -> Assaultmon -> Magnakidmon

The Surfer dudes

Geoff: Kamemon -> Gwappamon -> Shaujinmon -> Neptunemon

Brody: Sangomon -> Tobiumon -> Divemon -> Surfmon

2023

Caleb: Liollmon -> Liamon -> Panjyamon -> Marsmon

Axel: Monodramon -> Sealsdramon -> Captainhookmon -> Olegmon

Nichelle: Gotsumon -> Starmon -> Superstarmon -> Ancientirismon

Scary girl: Ghostmon -> Bakemon -> Metalphantomon -> Reapermon

Damien: Toyagumon -> Tyrannomon -> Mastertyrannomon -> Spinomon

MK: Psychemon -> Fangmon -> Cerberumon -> Merukimon

Wayne: Falcomon -> Owlmon -> Yatagaramon -> Frostvelgrmon

Raj: Falcomon 2006 -> Peckmon -> Karatenmon -> Valdurmon

Ripper: Loogamon -> Loogarmon -> Helloogarmon -> Fenriloogamon

Zee: Phascomon -> Coleamon -> Metalmamemon -> Belphemon sleep mode

Chase: Petimamon -> Boogiemon -> Phelesmon -> Barbamon

Emma: Labramon -> Siesamon -> Caturamon -> Duftmon

Julia: Cameramon -> Publimon -> Oleamon -> Murmukusmon

Millie: Wormmon -> Searchmon -> Dinobeemon -> Ancientvolcamon

Priya: V-mon -> V-Dramon -> AeroV-dramon -> Ulforce V-dramon

Bowie: Espimon -> Exermon -> Climbmon -> Shivamon

[magpiejay1234]

Episode 30.

****

OP2 starts here.

Masaru-Thoma are paired up, and Yoshino-Ikuto are paired up, with Ravmon showcased.

Ikuto's Digivice Burst is showcased indirectly.

Royal Knights are also showcased. Particular emphasis is showcased in the former main characters, and Lord Knightmon.

Masaru's dad, and Bancho Leomon are showcased.

Shine Greymon: Burst Mode is showcased.

Final shot does not have the former Chief Yushima, and Kamemon, but the rest of the cast are in their new clothes.

****

Kurata's gang is being upgraded. OP2 already showcased that Kurata is not the final boss, though it is fair to presume not everyone is excited about Royal Knights.

Baromon reveals they also captured Yushima.

Kamemon saves the Digimon Partners, and Baromon realises Masaru is Suguru's son.

Ikuto, with the help of Igamon, destroy the fourth Gizmon.

Kurata decides to destroy El Doradimon, as it is the last remaining fortress of Digimon (well, the common ones, at least).

****

El Doradimon showcased here will later become the Jogress partner of Saber Leomon to form Tlalocmon, as discussed before.

Most of the Digimon showcased here are either from OG Adventure, or Frontier.

Though this episode is important for Kurata's arc, it is overshadowed by the fact that him not being the final boss is already spoiled by OP2.

[v-mundi]

Uh oh...I figured out how to make models in Blender. So of course the first thing I do is use it to create impossible items. By “impossible”, I mean these are from Digimon World (PS1). There are no models of these. These will be making an appearance in the next set, which is a set of item cards!

Firstly, these images are huge so click to zoom.

Polaris Sigil —  北極星の印 Whamon evolution item. Had to be pretty interpretive about what this even is. It’s clearly a gold-colored star with 4 points and a grey colored ring around it. Is the ring round? pointy? beveled? flat-topped? Who the F knows. Is the star metal or supposed to glow? Are these gold and silver or yellow light and a white cloth loop??? WHO KNOWS! So I decided to make them literal gold and silver shining brilliantly. Then I remembered real objects are very imperfect...so it’s pretty scratched up.

Offering Sake — お供え酒 Seadramon evolution item. Had to model a freakin Japanese liquor jug. 酒 “Sake” (liquor) char printed on there idea from this Bandai card. This is something that’s very hard to get a reference for outside of Digimon, meaning I had to interpret a lot about its material properties and shape that you can’t easily see in that tiny card image. Probably hard to find because it’s historical. For the cork stopper, I tried my hand at subsurface scattering and it got that nice reddish hue I wanted. Another great thing this did: I now I know how to make candle wax! Same technique.

Iga-Style Secret Scroll —  イガ流の秘伝書 Igamon (Ninjamon) evolution item. Bonus non-Blender, made in Miku Miku Dance PMX editor. Funny enough because they put “Iga” in katakana, I knew it was Igamon’s scroll specifically. So for this one, I stuck the actual “IGA-RYU” characters on it...I guess so players who know how to read Japanese in my English card game can feel good? Here’s the comparison with the old render Bandai did (different name).

[swallowmon]

#Inktober2019 Day 3 : Protect

[aquillis-main]

Share the Sonic/digimon partner list!

Of course, of course! I got characters that I haven't mentioned as well with their own Digimon ideas, so if it's more expansive than the one on Discord i apologize for not sharing them.

Sonic: Veemon/V-mon

Tails: Jazamon

Amy: Shortmon

Knuckles: Vorvomon

Sonia: Hawkmon

Manic: Armadillomon

Big: Frogmon

Cream: Terriermon and Lopmon Version X

Shadow: Arcadimon (Perfect/Ultimate)

Rouge: Witchmon

Vector: Deckerdramon

Espio: Igamon

Charmy: Fanbeemon

E-123 Omega: Guardomon

Blaze: Leomon (No, this Leomon will not be dying, thank you)

Marine: Captain Hookmon

Silver: Exermon

Infinite: Negamon -> Abbadomon

Eggman: ??? (May possibly be his own creation)

And to add to this, my OCs:

Ovi: Falcomon (Original version)

Nebula: Gulus Gammamon

Erco/Edge: Grademon

Yuki: Shoutmon

Ginger: Vulturemon

Wesser: Kamemon

Hope: Cupimon -> Lucemon

Arura: Wizardmon X

Trevor: Tyutyumon

Cyrus: Loader Leomon

If you guys think that I gave my OCs too strong a Digimon, consider: Most of the Digimon names I listed are usually the forms that the Digimon automatically prefer, or have met in that form. Marine and Captain Hookmon don't meet until Marine has basically completed most of her arc in the AU. Ginger doesn't meet Vulturemon until she confesses her feelings to Ophelia, and Erco/Edge doesn't meet Grademon until Erco/Edge learns to be more open to others. The only one that starts out as Perfect/Ultimate is Shadow, and that's because Arcadimon is another experiment on the ARK. The two bond over being experiments.

Also, I gave Infinite the most edgiest Digimon to ever existed, because I thought it'd be neat if edge met edge.

[commentaryvorg]

Digimon Data Squad Dub Comparison Episode 31 - Showdown Between Geniuses: Thomas Vs Nanami!

This is a companion to my commentary on the original Japanese Digimon Savers! Reading my commentary on the original version of this episode (which you can find here) is recommended before reading this dub comparison.

Original name ~ Dubbed name

Masaru Daimon ~ Marcus Damon

Yoshino Fujieda ~ Yoshino “Yoshi” Fujieda

Tohma H. Norstein ~ Thomas H. Norstein

Ikuto Noguchi ~ Keenan Crier

ElDoradimon ~ ElDradimon

Baromon ~ Baronmon

Igamon ~ Ninjamon

Gizmon ~ Gizumon

BioLotusmon ~ BioRotosmon

[Since several characters share the same name between the original and the dub, quotes from the dub will always be in italics, while quotes from the original will not, in order to distinguish them.]

Before we get into this episode itself, I again want to talk about the preview for this episode that we saw at the end of the dub’s episode 30. It only contained like one shot of Nanami, with none of her lines and no indication that this episode is especially focused around her; most of it was about the bits with Marcus and Thomas arguing strategy. Like with the preview for episode 17, this strikes me as frustratingly sexist. Can’t possibly make the viewers think the next episode might focus on a girl, nobody’d want that.

Recap Marcus: “Hopefully I can make [my dad] proud ten years later by saving them from Kurata! It’s fightin’ time!”

Marcus is doing the recap! Probably so that he can make this comment about his dad (though really Marcus doing it should be the default and there shouldn’t need to be a special reason for it like this grumble grumble).

Gaomon:  “It was Master who came up with the strategy!”

Tohma:  “A saviour…”

~~~~~

Gaomon: “Why’s he giving Marcus the credit when it’s your plan?”

Thomas:  “He’s the legend’s son.”

Thomas is a bit more matter-of-factly answering Gaomon’s question instead of seeming more distantly wrapped up in his thoughts about this whole saviour thing. (As if the viewers needed to have the reason why explained to them because they couldn’t figure it out themselves.)

Kurata: “He’s pretty much the genius of the group.”

Calling Thomas the genius “of the group” only states that he’s noticeably tactically smarter than Marcus (not difficult) or Yoshi, which is not quite the same thing as him being a literal genius by anybody’s standards. That in itself shouldn’t be enough to pique Nanami’s interest… though of course she could still have figured out Thomas is a literal genius by herself anyway.

Ivan:  “Garbage… must be properly disposed of. Those are the rules. If you liken those guys to garbage, then I just made a good pun. But you’ll never hear that coming from me.”

~~~~~

Ivan: “Trash must be disposed of properly. See, if everyone followed the rules like me, we’d be winning! But I’d never say we were losing out loud.”

But… they’re not losing? They may have lost the fight in episode 29, but their position in this current battle for ElDradimon is perfectly favourable, and the fighting hasn’t even really begun yet. It boggles me that the dub writers decided to remove a metaphor from the original when Ivan actually explained that it was a metaphor, so there’s no way it could have gone over their heads.

Igamon:  “I saw humans there too. This man is their leader.”

~~~~~

Ninjamon:  “I described their leader to a sketch artist. This is what he drew.”

The implication originally was that the Igamon himself did the, uh, “sketch”, but apparently in the dub, Digimon have professional sketch artists (who are absolutely terrible at it and yet still get given work)?

Igamon:  “The saviour’s face is marked with sweat!”

Baromon:  “Is the enemy that formidable?!”

~~~~~

Ninjamon: “Uhh, maybe his eyes were blue, not brown?”

Baronmon: “Anyone you know fit that description?”

The joke of Igamon and Baromon seeming to genuinely believe the sketch is good enough to strike fear in their saviour’s heart is changed to a different joke that doesn’t work as well. The sketch doesn’t even have colour for the eyes; surely Ninjamon can tell at least that much, even if his artistic judgement thinks it’s a decent drawing.

Baromon:  “As of now, we have an announcement from our saviour.”

~~~~~

Baronmon: “Our legend’s son is going to deliver a message for us!”

Tiny thing, but in the original, Baromon had slipped into simply calling Masaru the “saviour” himself, whereas here he’s still calling him “the legend’s son”.

Yoshi: “Don’t mess up, Mr. Legend’s Son.”

Yoshi’s tone with those last words sounds a tiny bit bitter, like she’s annoyed that Marcus is getting all the glory. Yoshino didn’t sound like that in her equivalent line.

Baromon:  “What? We’re making the first move?”

~~~~~

Baronmon: “Alright! We’re with you!”

The crowd’s initial response to Marcus’s announcement (identical to Masaru’s) of “we’re going to go and fight them” is the same kind of unenthused mumbling, but Baronmon is completely on board with it where Baromon in the original wasn’t at first.

Falcomon’s one line in this episode didn’t hit me like a brick for once, perhaps because it’s only one line and so it’s been longer than usual since I’ve heard much of what Falcomon’s meant to sound like. It’s still a bad voice for him though, regular reminder.

Ikuto:  “We’ll end this fight quickly!”

~~~~~

Keenan: “Revenge time! Who’s with me?!”

Keenan’s making this very fervently about revenge, while Ikuto isn’t so much, surprisingly enough. Ikuto is going to gradually slip out of being so fixated on revenge in particular, and perhaps that’s already begun to happen here, but not in the dub, apparently.

Tohma:  “He must be intentionally using his camp as bait, in order to force us to divide up our troops.”

~~~~~

Thomas:  “He wants us to get our troops out of the perfect position that we’re in!”

This is the only part of Tohma’s argument that’s slightly different. Surely if the main point is about this perfect position, then it’s okay for some troops (namely Marcus and Keenan and their partners) to head off to attack Kurata? Thomas doesn’t seem to be worried so much about their troops being divided and therefore losing strength.

Though maybe there’s also something to be said for Thomas making a point of this perfect position, the position he thought up with his very great strategy that he wishes he was getting more credit for dammit.

Tohma:  “He’s waiting for us to make our move!”

~~~~~

Thomas: “Right now he can’t get to us if we stay where we are!”

He… totally can, though? The Gizumon can fly? The point is that Kurata’s forces can’t approach without being noticed while the city’s in this position; doesn’t mean they can’t attack anyway. Makes me think the earlier line was also changed because the dub writers had this erroneous impression; it’d explain why Thomas wasn’t worried about dividing up the troops needed to defend them if he doesn’t think they need any troops to defend them like this at all.

Masaru:  “Then we’ll just go ourselves! You don’t have a problem with that, right?”

~~~~~

Marcus: “Then we’ll attack by ourselves! No-one says *you* have to go!”

Ugh, as usual, Marcus is being more argumentative about this, like he’s getting one up over Thomas, rather than Masaru’s genuine acknowledgement of the fact that they can both take their own individual approaches to this without issue.

Masaru:  “A good offence is the best defence! I’m going to kick Kurata’s ass and that’s that!”

~~~~~

Marcus:  “A good defence is a good offence! I say we attack and that’s that!”

Marcus’s tone is again being far more loud and argumentative. Plus, the altered phrasing of his second sentence – “we” attack, not just that he’s personally going to – makes it sound like he’s still trying to get one over on Thomas. Like he wants his approach to override Thomas’s strategy entirely and doesn’t think the two can co-exist (and the previous line I quoted was him thinking Thomas can just go sit out the assault in a sulk if he doesn’t agree).

Masaru:  “So take care of defending this place for me until then, Tohma!”

Tohma:  “You don’t need to tell me that.”

~~~~~

Marcus:  “So take care of this place for me ‘til I come back, okay?”

Thomas: “*If* you come back.”

Instead of the fun subtle line suggesting Tohma might be thinking “stop telling me what to do like you’re stealing all my credit and I can’t do it by myself”, we just get Thomas… being much less subtly kind of a dick, implying he thinks Marcus is going to get himself killed in his reckless idiocy.

Tohma:  “I can’t believe that reckless guy is considered a saviour.”

~~~~~

Thomas:  “I can’t believe these people would willingly follow that reckless fool.”

Thomas’s words – and intonation – put more emphasis on the “fool” part, again being more of a dick. He’s also lingering less on the saviour/legend thing here by not bringing up that that’s the reason why all these people are blindly following him.

Yoshino:  “I think the reason why Masaru continues to take such risks is because he trusts you, Tohma.”

~~~~~

Yoshi: “Marcus doesn’t mind taking risks, because he knows if he screws up, Thomas has his back.”

I’m a little sad about her not outright saying Marcus trusts Thomas, though “has his back” does pretty much mean the same thing. It’s also a little different that Yoshi’s saying Marcus will only need Thomas to have his back if he screws up. Masaru knows Tohma has his back and can hold down the fort here anyway, head-on reckless assault going badly or not! (After all, it’s not like Masaru is one for consciously acknowledging that his reckless charging in could ever possibly not work.)

Still, I’m glad this line is basically intact. What with the greater Marcus Is A Jerk going on in the rest of this argument, I would be worried that the writers wanted to entirely remove any sense that Marcus trusted Thomas’s approaches, but at least that bit is still here, albeit a tiny bit harder to believe, sigh.

Gaomon: “Gizumon-XT, 12 o’clock.”

Those ones approaching right now are Gizumon-AT, actually. Apparently the dub writers weren’t really paying that much attention to which one’s which.

Tohma:  “Thank goodness. It appears…”

Nanami:  “Nothing’s happened to it yet, hmm?”

~~~~~

Thomas:  “No signs of an attack yet, but when they do, we’ll be ready.”

Nanami: “You sure about that?”

We lose Nanami finishing Tohma’s sentence as an early indication of the way she can predict everything he’s planning, in place of just some generic villain banter.

Nanami: “Like you said, if the waterfall is destroyed, the lake water will wash away ElDradimon.”

That’s… not what’s going to happen when the waterfall gets destroyed. Unsurprisingly, the dub writers have not watched ahead to the next episode in which we see why the lake draining is a bad thing. They apparently also haven’t even watched ahead to the end of this one, in which the water drains away without enough force to affect ElDradimon in any significant way.

Nanami:  “And so, you will come here to protect it.”

~~~~~

Nanami:  “…I knew you would come alone to the one location that needs the most protecting.”

Interesting how Nanami in the dub specifies that she knew he’d come alone. The optimal strategy is definitely not to come alone, but rather to bring a sizeable amount of troops; you’d think she’d know that. So is this her predicting Tohma’s issues about not relying on anyone? Would Nanami herself also make a point of coming alone if she were in his situation? Potentially! Though I don’t think I trust the dub to be making this implication deliberately.

Tohma:  “You were able to predict everything?”

~~~~~

Thomas: “Well, I guess you have it all figured out!”

Thomas’s tone is just an exasperated, “fine, you’re smart, no need to monologue at me”, rather than being caught off-guard that his brilliant strategies have been seen through so easily.

Nanami:  “Anyone could see it, if they just gave it some thought.”

~~~~~

Nanami: “Oh, any general with a little common sense could see it.”

The fact that dub-Nanami makes it “any general”, and not just anyone at all loses a little bit of the nuance here. She’s implying she wouldn’t necessarily think it was so obvious for someone who wasn’t a general and didn’t have a head for war strategy. Nanami in the original is so caught up in her genius worldview that she feels like this kind of thing should be obvious to anyone.

Nanami:  “Wouldn’t you agree, Doctor Tohma Norstein?”

~~~~~

Nanami: “Don’t you think? General Thomas Norstein?”

Weird that she makes such a point of Thomas being a general here, when that’s only a role he’s taking on temporarily right now. (And she herself isn’t even the general of her own side; that’s Kurata.) Stressing the doctor thing instead is her making a point of him being a genius, thus drawing a comparison with her (even though as far as we know she’s not a doctor herself).

Nanami:  “I wonder for how long… you will entertain me!”

~~~~~

Nanami: “It’ll be an interesting challenge to see if I can outwit you.”

Nanami in the dub apparently isn’t even sure if she can outwit Thomas. In the original, the fact that she didn’t even bring that notion up, coupled with the idea that she didn’t even necessarily expect him to entertain her for long implied that despite his genius status, she still felt above him and like her outsmarting him sooner or later was always a given.

Nanami:  “Nothing that moves within your heart is left unseen to me. Nothing at all.”

~~~~~

Nanami:  “To be honest, sometimes having all the answers gets kind of boring. It’s a curse.”

She brings this boredom part up earlier than in the original, in place of some of that insistence that she definitely knows everything Tohma’s thinking.

Sometimes is a hell of an understatement for Nanami, whose whole thing is being so bored out of her mind she’s willing to participate in a genocide for some fun. The way she says “It’s a curse” is even kind of playful, like she isn’t actually upset by this, which shouldn’t be the case, so either the dub doesn’t quite get it or she’s very good at masking it. (Guess which one my money’s on.)

Nanami’s southern belle accent in general makes her sound kind of weirdly more like an innocently oblivious child than a ruthlessly cold genius in some of these lines about “why are you even opposing a genocide”.

Nanami:  “The Digimon’s existence won’t bring you any worth.”

~~~~~

Nanami:  “It isn’t like Digimon *do* anything for you.”

The way she’s phrasing things also kinda sounds a bit less articulated and more childlike. Though the reason I quoted this line was primarily to point out that she didn’t bring up the concept of “worth” in the dub, which was something I suspected might have hit a Norstein-related nerve with Tohma in the original.

Tohma:  “They can connect emotionally with us humans!”

~~~~~

Thomas: “They connect with us internally on an emotional level!”

That’s a weirdly clinical way for Thomas to describe bonding with Digimon. Though for all I know he may have sounded similarly stilted about this in the original Japanese and the subbers just smoothed it over a bit. It isn’t necessarily out of character for Tohma to have such a detached and clinical way to describe emotional bonding.

Tohma:  “Making those friends… those comrades of ours suffer is what I can’t allow Kurata to get away with!”

~~~~~

Thomas: “And you? Why do you side with Kurata when he makes the innocent suffer so much?!”

Thomas is jumping the gun a bit by asking her why she sides with Kurata this early in the conversation; that part isn’t supposed to come until later. I mean, I guess it’s fair enough that he might want to bring that up right now, but the original writers chose to save it for later on to give that moment some particular emphasis.

Nanami: “What are you? Some sort of ‘defender of justice’?”

(For the record, Nanami completely dodges the question for now and continues along the same track as she did originally. Though since Thomas was asking her a question rather than stating his own disgust at the suffering of Digimon, he was being somewhat less justice-y than in the original.)

Her tone of voice as she’s telling Thomas that he’s totally doing all this just to feel superior (which is basically unchanged) sounds a lot more like she’s mocking him for it, rather than the kind of cold, forceful, matter-of-fact way she said it originally. I don’t think the mocking tone works as well for the fact that she’s only really saying this because she’s projecting her own nature onto him.

Nanami:  “What a boring attack.”

~~~~~

Nanami: “Are you through being silly?”

This is to Gaomon, as he charges recklessly at her to defend his master’s honour. Calling him “silly” really doesn’t feel like the right put-down here.

Nanami:  “Tohma… I understand your loneliness.”

~~~~~

Nanami: “Look, I understand. You’re lonely.”

Slightly less nuance here in the dub. Dub-Nanami’s only saying “I know that you’re lonely”, whereas original-Nanami was taking it as a given that he was lonely from the start and is saying she understands the way in which he’s lonely.

…But really, that’s a very minor nitpick and the rest of her projecting-loneliness speech to him is very similar and gives the same effect overall.

Thomas: “You still haven’t answered my question. Why are you siding with Kurata?”

At least the dub remembered that they changed an earlier bit to have this not be the first time Thomas asked her that. I was not 100% convinced they’d remember to allude to that.

Nanami:  “Hunting for Digimon is just another way of passing the time.”

~~~~~

Nanami: “Hunting Digimon just happens to be an enjoyable hobby I like to dabble in.”

Other than her weirdly casual phrasing about this in the dub (even if she’s doing this to relieve boredom, would one really call it a hobby?), her wording also kind of implies that… this isn’t the first time she’s been hunting Digimon for fun? If it’s a “hobby”, then it implies it’s something she does regularly instead of something she’s only doing right now because the opportunity happened to arise. Pretty damn sure that’s not supposed to be the case.

Nanami:  “Now, come with me.”

~~~~~

Nanami: “Why? Why do you fight your true feelings?”

The dub added some more projection than there was here in the original, with Nanami insisting that obviously Thomas’s true feelings are him wanting to partner up with her as a fellow genius. Nice.

Tohma:  “I refuse. I have a duty to protect the Holy Capital.”

~~~~~

Thomas:  “No thanks. I want to use my genius to help Digimon, not destroy them.”

Bah, I’m sad at the loss of the bit where Tohma insists on making this about duty when he didn’t have to.

Nanami:  “Even though you’re a genius… you’re a stubborn blockhead.”

~~~~~

Nanami: “Funny – for a genius, you’re a fool.”

“Stubborn blockhead” provides a nice little parallel to Masaru, somewhat more so than “fool” does – though the dub going with the latter may be down to lip-flap constraints.

Nanami:  “Evolution isn’t your special privilege.”

~~~~~

Nanami: “Last time was different. I’m much stronger than I was before.”

This is a lot plainer in the dub, just generic villain gloating about strength, rather than Nanami being subtly bitter than someone else could dare to think he’s more special than her.

Nanami: “Bio-Hybrid DNA Full Charge!”

That’s apparently their new evolution call in the dub, though since it matches with the regular DNA Full Charge, you’d think it’d herald them going to dub-Ultimate (aka Perfect), rather than Mega level.

Why in the world was BioLotusmon romanised to BioRotosmon, seriously. It is very obviously supposed to be “lotus”, come on.

Digimon Analyser BioRotosmon: “What took you and your Digimon months to achieve, Kurata did in one night!”

I mean… it didn’t take them months? It took them a day of punching training dummies in a dojo, pretty much. (Okay, the training dummies weren’t really the reason, but point is it only took a day.)

BioRotosmon’s design is edited just a little in the dub to not have bare thigh and what could be interpreted as underwear. At least the dub consistently makes an effort with this actually-good kind of anti-fanservice editing. In an ideal world, they wouldn’t have to, but, sigh.

Yep, this is one of those times where the evolution music is really just a fanfare for evolution rather than a triumphant theme of victory, because there’s like five minutes or so of episode between the evolution and MirageGaogamon actually winning.

BioLotusmon:  “I can read all of your movements!”

~~~~~

BioRotosmon: “I’m so fast I make a rocket look slow!”

Not only is that a silly cheesy simile that I can’t imagine a genius like Nanami making, it’s also distracting from what should be the point here. It’s not that she’s significantly faster than MirageGaogamon, but that she can predict exactly how he’s going to move.

BioLotusmon/Nanami: “Tohma… Come with me.”

~~~~~

BioRotosmon/Nanami: “Thomas… Please, reconsider.”

Her outright asking him to reconsider shows that she’s acknowledged his initial refusal. I don’t feel like that’s something Nanami would actually do, given all of her projection onto him like this is totally what he obviously wants.

The booby snakes have also been edited to have a lot more of their bosoms covered, and again, I approve.

Nanami:  “I will be able to understand you.”

~~~~~

Nanami:  “Only someone like me can appreciate and unlock the real you.”

Kinda like the added nuance here, that she’s insisting there’s a real Thomas inside there somewhere that he’s suppressing because of these idiots, and she’ll be able to bring it out. (Clearly, this “real Thomas” is the one who actually wants to be with her, and that explains why he keeps refusing on the surface, because it’s totally not really him, right.)

Tohma:  “I… I am not that self-conceited!”

~~~~~

Thomas: “No… I’m not an egomaniac like you are!”

I prefer the original line here, not because of any significant difference between “self-conceited” and “egomaniac”, but because of the phrasing around it. Thomas is only saying, “I’m not as egotistical as you”, whereas Tohma is saying, “I’m not as conceited as you think I am”, which is a lot more impactful, because he’s essentially shooting down his own subconscious worries that Nanami might be right about him.

Tohma:  “There’s a source of power in this world that even I can’t calculate!”

Nanami:  “Daimon Masaru, is it?”

~~~~~

Thomas:  “I realise you have to rely on your friends if you hope to achieve real power!”

Nanami: “Friends like Marcus Damon?”

Instead of making the interesting point that Masaru’s approaches are unpredictable to somebody who uses optimal calculated strategies, we lose that entirely for some generic stuff about friendship. And this is despite the fact that Tohma’s not supposed to be openly okay with the idea that he relies on others, even if they are his friends.

Nanami:  “So you rely on something like him.”

Tohma:  “Rely on him? Me?”

~~~~~

Nanami:  “So those are the type of fools you rely on.”

Thomas: “They’re friends. Not fools.”

Yep, because we traded the point about Masaru’s unpredictability for some generic Thomas waxing lyrical about friendship, we also lost the part where Tohma was subtly uncomfortable at the suggestion that he’s relying on them. Thomas is completely okay with that, apparently. Who knows why he felt the need to come to defend the waterfall on his own in this version of the story.

Nanami:  “There’s no such thing as something beyond calculation. That’s just an excuse. If you continue to stay content living with fools, you’ll only neglect improving yourself!”

~~~~~

Nanami: “You might think they’re your friends, but you don’t need them. They need *you*. They keep holding you back, dead weight, always needing your help to save them, and preventing you from reaching your full potential.”

This continues the “friends” point, but then manages to shift it into something similar to the direction the original lines went in here. However, because Nanami’s being a lot more specific about the friends thing here in the dub, and because she’s been projecting her own issues onto him this entire time, it kind of ends up reading like she’s the one who used to have friends who constantly needed her, whom she eventually got rid of as “dead weight”. That would potentially be interesting, but I doubt the dub made this implication on purpose.

Nanami:  “Throw away your worthless friends and your insignificant self-satisfaction!”

~~~~~

Nanami: “Forget about those pathetic charity cases and come with me!”

Yeah, the “charity cases” comment really reads like projection here. I still am not convinced it’s intentional, though.

She’s also not telling him to throw away his “self-satisfaction”, which had some neat nuance of her thinking that Tohma being humble and accepting he doesn’t know everything is the kind of “self-satisfaction” she can’t stand, despite insisting he should be lording it over the idiots with his genius.

As all the trippy snake-Nanami’s murmur “Thomas” over and over, the fact that there’s an S in his dub name is convenient, because she can emphasise that to make it sound a bit like the hissing of snakes. Neat.

Ikuto:  “What’s more, they keep showing up the same way like all the others!”

~~~~~

Keenan: “Hey, wait! If that was last Gizumon-XT, then what that?”

Alas, the dub did not keep the line where Ikuto commented on the repeated animation.

…Why is the dub using its BanchoLeomon music as we resume the fight between MirageGaogamon and BioRotosmon? Like, this BGM has a very distinct bancho-y sort of sound to it and has until now only been used for BanchoLeomon’s scenes. It feels very weird and out of place here.

MirageGaogamon: “Master, she can predict all of my movements. Please guide me through your orders.”

~~~~~

MirageGaogamon: “Sir, she can predict my every move. Plus, she’s faster than I am.”

Except the dub never had her mention earlier that she was predicting his moves, at least not as MirageGaogamon.

Also, I find it rather cheap that the dub’s making it explicit that she is significantly faster than him. If that’s the case, then her advantage isn’t about her intellect at all, but rather because Kurata happened to make her physically better than MirageGaogamon in the first place. That’s not Nanami’s advantage.

BioRotosmon:  “Is this the attack plan of a genius? I’ve never seen anything so predictable!”

At least they are finally having her make a point that his strategies are predictable here.

BioRotosmon: “Better, but still slow.”

Less fond of this; the point should not be that he’s slower than her, damn it!

MirageGaogamon: “Master, your orders!”

Tohma:  “Okay!”

[BioLotusmon attacks MirageGaogamon again]

MirageGaogamon: “Your orders…!”

[and again]

MirageGaogamon: “Master, your orders!”

[and again]

~~~~~

MirageGaogamon: “Sir, we need a new plan!”

Thomas: “I’ll try!”

[BioRotosmon attacks MirageGaogamon again]

MirageGaogamon: “Hurry, sir!”

[and again]

MirageGaogamon: “I can’t hold on much longer!”

[and again]

In the original version of this scene, the impression I got was that it was a quick-cut montage of all of their failed strategies, skipping over Tohma giving and MirageGaogamon carrying out the actual orders (because they were always doomed to fail) and just showing how determined MirageGaogamon is to keep believing in his master’s plans despite getting hurt because of them over and over.

But it doesn’t seem like the dub writers read it that way, because the lines they give MirageGaogamon have him very clearly not receive any orders in between each line. So in the dub, this isn’t a montage, this is just BioRotosmon mercilessly whaling on MirageGaogamon while Thomas panics and fails to come up with any kind of new attack strategy at all, having apparently exhausted the whole two of them he’d had prepared in the moments prior to this. Even if Thomas had come up with something, I’d be surprised if MirageGaogamon was capable of pulling it off in the midst of being beaten up.

I don’t think the dub’s version of the scene is as meaningful; again, it’s turning the problem into BioRotosmon simply being stronger (and Thomas losing his nerve when it counts), rather than Nanami being able to see through every single strategy Tohma comes up with (and MirageGaogamon being such a good loyal dog despite that).

Thomas:  “My strategies aren’t working! She’s so fast that she anticipates everything we try and beats us to the punch!”

Thomas, that is not the problem that just got MirageGaogamon beaten up; the problem just now is that you didn’t even come up with a strategy at all. Also, again, this doesn’t need to be about her being fast, stop making the problem something that isn’t one of Nanami’s qualities.

Tohma:  (She’s predicting all of my calculations. What the hell should I…?)

~~~~~

Thomas: (She’s got me right where she wants me. I can’t believe I’m beaten!)

Thomas’s thought in the dub sounds like it could be referring to the fact that she just made an ultimatum to not destroy the waterfall if he joins her. The dub is still making this significantly less about her being able to predict him, which is still supposed to be the point and the reason why this reckless approach he’s about to use is going to work!

BioLotusmon: “What are you doing on top of his shoulder? Are you *trying* to get hurt?”

Yes, actually! I’m amused that she happens to literally describe his plan in the dub, while thinking it ridiculous. (Though really Thomas still doesn’t need to be getting hurt in this, but shush, shounen spirit.)

Also. Also. Guess what music gets used for Thomas’s victorious reckless charge? It’s Probably Marcus’s Theme, just like I hoped it would be! Man, that hits a bit harder if you’ve noticed it’s probably Marcus’s theme.

BioLotusmon: “Just what sort of calculations did you use?!”

Tohma:  “None. I just thought that if we got close enough to attack at point-blank range, we’d be able to pull it off.”

~~~~~

BioRotosmon: “How did you possibly know that would work…?”

Thomas:  “I didn’t. I just thought that if we got into point-blank range, we’d be able to pull it off.”

Thomas basically just said, “I didn’t know that it would work, I just figured it would work.” Kinda contradicting himself a bit there? Which is, of course, a result of the dub being really insistent about watering down the part where Masaru’s reckless strategies defy the sort of calculations and prediction that Tohma and Nanami usually rely on.

Kurata:  “If this keeps up, you [Kouki] may not get your turn.”

~~~~~

Kurata: “Tell [the Gizumon-XT] to back off so that Kouki can get his shot at revenge.”

…Except, in the next episode, Marcus and Keenan will still be fighting their way through some Gizumon-XT before reaching Kouki at the camp. I guess apparently that goon of Kurata’s decided not to follow that order? It’s honestly weird that Kurata cares so much about indulging Kouki’s desire for petty vengeance that he’s willing to risk giving Marcus an advantage.

Nanami:  “I… I haven’t lost to you… Because��� What you used was… Daimon Masaru’s power…”

~~~~~

Nanami: ��“I accept defeat because I did not lose to you, Thomas H. Norstein. I lost… I lost to something else… I lost to Marcus Damon’s… power…”

Weird that she’s nonetheless willing to explicitly accept defeat of any kind. Nanami’s line in the original came across a lot like she was using this as an excuse to not accept defeat at all.

Tohma:  “Masaru’s… power?”

Gaomon:  “Master…”

Tohma:  “Why… do I feel so irritated?”

~~~~~

Thomas: “Marcus’s… power?”

Gaomon: “But how?”

Thomas:  “I don’t know… What did she mean by that?”

Oh no, what a huge freaking mystery! It’s not like you won by using the exact kind of reckless strategy Marcus would use or anything! It’s not like you, a genius who is also very familiar with Marcus, would have perfectly well known that the second you hit upon such a way to win!

I don’t think this can even be reasonably read as denial, because the fact that he won using a Marcus-like strategy is so goddamn obvious that there’s no way Thomas would be able to lie to himself about that for a second. (Gaomon is also confused by it somehow, and he wouldn’t be lying to himself about it!)

The thing Tohma ends up confused by here in the original is why it bothers him so much that he used Masaru’s power to win, because the fact that he did so is already unquestionably apparent, and the fact that this gets to him is the interesting part. But somehow the dub decided that, no, we can’t focus on Thomas’s inferiority complex brought out by Marcus and his unwillingness to rely on anyone else (we sure lost any sense of the latter in some earlier bits), so instead, let’s just boringly and nonsensically insist it’s a huge mysterious mystery as to what Nanami even meant by him winning through Marcus’s power. What the actual hell.

Overall differences

Well, this isn’t as bad as it could be, since this is mostly a Thomas-focused episode and the dub’s generally decent at him, but.

Naturally Marcus is more of a jerk in the strategy meeting, sounding like he wants to override Thomas’s strategy rather than do both at once. The dubbers also seem not to get the point of Tohma’s strategy in the first place; they appear to think the lake means that nothing can approach at all (blatantly incorrect), and that destroying the waterfall is bad because it’ll wash ElDradimon away (also incorrect, please watch ahead literally one episode).

Nanami herself is reasonably intact, thankfully; there’s some minor losses of nuance and her weird southern belle voice doesn’t entirely help, but there’s also a couple of gains of nuance and the overall point is pretty much the same.

Where we do lose the original point is when things come onto the topic of Marcus, surprise surprise. The dub entirely removes the point about how Masaru’s strength in Tohma’s eyes is his sheer unpredictability and non-adherence to logical calculations. Instead, Thomas just waxes lyrical about friendship and seems okay with the idea of relying on Marcus, which Tohma very pointedly did not even as he acknowledged Masaru’s strengths.

In the battle, the notion that Nanami can predict all of Tohma’s optimal strategies is not entirely lost, but it’s significantly watered down in favour of BioRotosmon simply being faster and stronger than MirageGaogamon, which is a much less meaningful or interesting advantage for her to have. Thanks to this, Thomas’s victory by doing a reckless Marcus-like approach has less impact – so again, there’s less highlighting that Masaru’s unpredictability can be a good thing.

These changes to the Masaru topic also mean that the episode has to end on a bizarre final note of Thomas wondering what Nanami even meant when she said he won using Marcus’s power (which should be obvious), rather than him being bothered by the fact that he won that way for reasons he doesn’t quite consciously understand.

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Phineas And Ferb - Digimon AU

Here’s some headcannons I have for my Digimon AU of Phineas and Ferb:

Probably I should rename this AU to: “The DigiSummer Belongs To You” or something, but I don’t know. What do you think?

I want to make it loyal to the japanese version of Digimon, so the titles of the chapter, can be anime-esque, similar to @themurphyzone​ with his fanfic: “Absolutely Disastrous” (good fanfic by the way I love it so much), this also, will apply my other Digimon AU’s (”Milo Murphy’s Law”, “Gravity Falls”, “Star Vs The Forces Of Evil”, “Ducktales 2017″ and “Steven Universe”)

Continuing with this. I’ll plan to use the original names of the Digimons and their attacks and also for when they evolve. This also, will apply with the afromentioned AU’s.

Some Digimons are attracted by the Big Ideas of Phineas and Ferb, some examples are: Kenkimon (”Rollercoaster” and “Rollercoaster: The Musical”), Racemon (”The Fast And The Phineas”), Pumpmon (”One Good Scare Ought To Do It!”), Mummymon (”Are You My Mummy?”), Daipenmon (”S’Winter”), Surfimon (”Lawn Gnome Beach Party Of Terror”), Knightmon (”A Hard Day’s Knight”), Dressmon (”Run Away Runway”), Footmon (”My Fair Goalie”) and Kotemon, Igamon, Kougamon and Shurimon (”Quietest Day Ever”). I still have to find a proper explanation why this happens in Danville.

One of my biggest troubles, is how I’m going to start this AU. Because, according to me Perry is Phineas’ Digimon Partner. Because my idea is that Phineas ends discovering that Perry is a Digimon in the first chapter and they eventually become partners, after some issues, but he and Perry hide this from Monogram, at least until the end of the first arc. But, should I make Phineas discover this early or save it for later? In case you ask, yes, I have a design for Perry as a Digimon.

Perry, Steve, Pinky, Peter and Dennis are actually Digimons, but can disguise theirselves as animals, like Mummymon and Archnemon in Digimon 02 and Bagramon in Digimon Xros Wars. (This also applies with Diogee and Waddles in my Digimon AU’s of Milo Murphy’s Law and Gravity Falls respectively)

The agents of OWCA are actually Digimons, that can disguise theirselves as animals (the one they resemble the most).

Steve the chameleon is Ferb’s digimon’s partner. Steve and Perry can jogress together (fuse/DNA Digivolution) and create a digimon that resembles “The Beak”, that hero Phineas and Ferb made and appeared thrice in the series. I still need to make a design of The Beak, as a Digimon.

I have a strange headcannon of Phineas and their friends helping a team formed by a Kotemon, an Igamon, a Kougamon and a Shurimon in “Quietest Day Ever” to save a town taken over by a Zanbamon. XD, why I imagine this?

Dennis the rogue rabbit, is a Lopmon and one of the antagonists, that later gets redeemed. My headcannon is that in a beginning, he took advantage of Candace to reach his nefarious goals, similar to DarkKnigthmon with Yuu and Quartzmon/Astamon with Ryouma in Digimon Xros Wars and Shademon with Nene in the Manga, but I also want that similar to Shademon in the manga, is purified by Candace and redeemed, and stop being evil, despite this, he’s still morally ambiguous.

Señor Frawg is a Digimon and is one of the antagonists in my AU. I plan that until Candace shows him love, he won’t be purified, and therefore, he can’t evolve (Señor Frawg is an ugly digimon that evolves into a beautiful Digimon, when receives love). I’m still planning in some aspects. (Thanks to @themurphyzone for making that fic. Thanks for the idea!)

I still love the idea of Perrysmirtz being cannon in this AU. Although I need excuses of Perry working with Doofenshmirtz, despite Phineas is his partner and Doofenshmirtz has already Agumon (Black) as partner. (Thanks Digimon Cyber Sleuth! Thanks for showing us, that a relationship Human-Digimon can be possible)

Like in the series, Perry, Steve, Pinkie, Dennis and all of the OWCA agents are unable of speech. This also applies to Diogee and Waddles in my Digimon AU’s of Milo Murphy’s Law and Gravity Falls.

An idea I always had and I like for this AU, is one, is one in which Lawrence Fletcher, Adrian Fletcher, Captain Bob Webber and Beppo Brown have an adventure in the Digital World and have to fight againist a Daemon. And here would be where Lawrence and Adrian meet their partners. Bob Webber and Beppo Brown had already interacted with Digimons, before this (”Nose Lake Monster” and “Oil On Candace” respectivelu). Also, in this adventure Lawrence is infected by a Dark Seed (Dark Spore in the dub).

What do you think?

Those are all headcannons I have for the moment.

[lipanz]

Buntalmon dgn sotongmon #gesomon #igamon #bandai #digimonpendulum #digimonpendulum20th #digimonpendulum20thanniversary #toys

[starlitfaery]

ooc

fyi the times Ryou had to choose someone to rescue, these were the choices

Daisuke against infected MetalGreymon OR Taichi against Etemon

Adv ‘99 Sora against Meramon OR Miyako against Igamon OR Ruki/Rika against Indaramon 

Yamato against Digitamamon OR Ken against Kimeramon OR Henry against Gorimon

Koushirou against Andromon OR Jyou against MegaSeadramon OR Iori against Drimogemon

Takeru against Devimon OR Hikari against Vamdemon OR Mimi against Monzaemon

like....terrible choices here

[the-adorable-vinnie-dakota]

Wild Digimon that can appear in Phineas And Ferb: Kenkimon, Valvemon, Mekanorimon, Guardromon, ToyAgumon, Daipenmon, Rukamon, Delumon, MetalGreymon, Kongoumon, Allomon, Harpymon, Cupimon, Puttimon, Patamon, Penmon, Kamemon, PicoDevimon, Kotemon, Mamemon, MetalMamemon, BigMamemon, Mametyramon, Dinorexmon, Chibickmon, Dondokomon, Shurimon, Seahomon, NiseAgumonHakase, Tylomon, Drimogemon, AgumonHakase, Swimmon, Depthmon, Mermaimon, Mojyamon, Yukidarumon, Igamon, Kokuwamon, Kokabuterimon, Whamon...

And biyomon flocks ^^ If ever there was that romantic scene with Candace and Jeremy while they ride an umbrella down the stream, biyomon flocks (nice if multicolored) could fly out to make the scene lovely