#if supernatural was not a homophobic show

[sammygender]

wrt prev post and sam’s original ‘fed demon blood by azazel as a baby’ arc like. actually that was the most insane thing to see depicted on my television especially when it seemed like no one else i knew or followed was talking about it. it felt so explicit and yet it was sooo deep in metaphor. she walked in on us. sammy, you’re my favourite. god it must be terrible to know something happened but that you’ll never be able to remember it or tell anyone about it. never be able to rip it out or scrub it clean. so azazel could get into my nursery and- bleed in my mouth? because i wasn’t clean. these trials - they’re purifying me. anyway. augh

[jackklinemybeloved]

god it just clicked that ty olsson played that vampire in s2 who hits on sam (“sure it’s hard to be lonely”) as a queer man. during an episode written by someone who wanted sam to be bisexual but was shot down so could only sneak stuff like that in. idk what my point really is it’s just. in retrospect. even though supernatural was supposed to be a macho show about guns and monsters. there was queerness there all along because queerness is just. around.

I think that might be beautiful.

[takemetodragonstone]

thinking today about the friendship i lost because this girl thought i was homophobic for my reaction when destiel became canon, and i just let her think that because the truth was so much worse. i’m not a homophobe…but i was a wincest shipper

[deancasforcutie]

Steve Yockey and Richard Speight Jr and Jeremy Carver really said we see you Supernatural so true Gay Love DOES Pierce the Veil of Death and Save the Day in every version of this story (so hard the canonical reunion is uncensored and onscreen this time)

[annmariethrush]

One of the things I like about supernatural as a destiel shipper is the fact that there’s kind of always a totally justifiable reason why they haven’t gotten together yet. Cas is an angel, the fucking apocalypse, Dean has been sent to comp-het dad suburbia as a final wish and Cas is leading a civil war, Cas is dead, Cas’s memory is gone, Cas is insane and traumatized, they’re stuck in a goddamn monster world, Cas is being mind controlled, Sam is possessed by an angel (it’s complicated), Dean is on a murder spree, Cas is possessed by the fucking Devil, wait they’re kind of married here now (??), oh nvm they disagree on abortion (Cas wants to adopt a baby), Cas is dead again, they’re co parenting a child, Dean is possessed by an archangel (not the devil, but worse), their child dies, Cas has literally made a pact on his life that he will die if he is happy, Cas is dead AGAIN.

There are little moments where they could have figured it out. Moments they could have hooked up and then tried to ignore it. Moments where maybe they could have actually ignored the fucking nightmare they live in and done it anyway. But it feels so much more legitimate as a ship for the fact that it’s always logically avoided because even the lord god knows that if you just left them alone and not busy for too long they would be living their best civil partnership life and illegally collecting orphans.

It also means that people writing canon-verse fics have 12 seasons worth of options to write in cause they are so well balanced on that ledge that you could feasibly rip them over it at any time. S4 destiel is just as plausible as S9 destiel is just as plausible as S13 destiel.

[noecantsleep]

I HATE THE FUCKING CW WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

[bestkeptbasement]

should have guessed that that show was not done yet.

[fvckw4d]

The concept of queerbaiting annoys me. I was told that it refers to a work of fiction pretending to cater to a queer audience but then pulling back from it to avoid alienating homophobes, which is an incredibly specific thing. But a lot of people seem to think that it instead means "any time there's any gay subtex, metaphor, or ambiguity" or "whenever something from 1995-2012 was being a normal amount of homophobic for the era."

[emblazons]

people still out here doubting byler could even happen on my dash because "what if they just don't follow through" and I'm just like "its 2023 and I just watched Heartstopper and Young Royals on the network that makes Stranger Things and already confirmed Will Byers was gay....after two entire episodes of queer rep in TLOU, a game that inspired the Duffer Brothers?"

Like? I simply do not have the capacity to let my fear get the better of me solely because I think shows that came out a decade ago are still the standard because "heteronormativity always wins," I'm sorry the queerbaiting happened to you though

[slopdoughnut]

Supernatural trending terrified me, this is not how I expected to receive the news... Misha what????? They would be huh???- when you what?????

[badwolfarcadiabay]

While my partner was reading uprooted by Naomi Novik he said this must be how you feel about Dean and Cas in reference to the main character and her best friend

At least he finally gets it lmao

[samsrowena]

there are no straight people in supernatural

[biceratops7]

Good omens leak mention:

“Well ok, a huge moment was revealed prematurely and I feel bad for Gaiman cause if that were me I’d also be crushed. But at least that’s the worst of it, and we can still enjoy the journey so to speak.

*an increasing amount of random people assuming the worst and making memes spreading the image and also predicting it to be homophobic*

“Oh… oh no…”

[spnbrainrotawoooga]

My Asian mom once said that later seasons Sam would be a transgender nun if he were a real person. She then did not elaborate on why or what made her say that.

[castiel-ten]

I never really paid any attention to crowley and dean til this rewatch (it's been a while since I watched entire spn seasons) but oh my god. it's like. so obvious?!??! crowley's "together" speech to demon!dean?!?! like what WAS that oh my god. THEY AIRED THAT ON THE CW?!?

[sloppyneedybmxboy]

Just watched a scene in supernatural so gay I fear that words won't do it justice. Sexy jehovas witness standing underneath a neon BAR/LIQUOR sign in the middle of the night preaching about how the end is nigh etc etc. "hey. I'm dean winchester do you know who I am?" "DEAR GOD" dean asks him to pray so he gets to his knees in front of dean?? "Dearest father who art in heaven..." then castiel turns up saying YOU PRAY TOO LOUD baby? dragging dean into a dark ALLEYWAY AND PINNING HIM AGAINST THE WALLS WHILST BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF HIM aka gay sex "I gave everything for you, and this is what you give to me?" babes you're literally millimetres away from each othrs lips. bloody dean. "cas please!!!" DEAN GRUNTING AND GROANING. cas looking down at dean on the floor dean dean on the floor and the WAY HE LOOKS UP AT HIM!! WTF ! WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!