#if someone seriously harms you but apologizes and you don't forgive them

[deservedgrace]

"we're not like other churches, we don't get caught up in earthly things like doctrine or rigid rules, we're focused on our relationship with jesus 🥰" <- is exactly like other churches

non-denominational churches are the "i'm not like other girls" of churches

[ihopesocomic]

Do you think bullying is considered a type of abuse? Does "bully redemption" trope can also be considered a abuser redemption? I can't like this kind of narrative at all. Not even "A Silent Voice " could convince me.

The thing is with bullying is that it is often committed by children and the overreaching fact is that hardly any adult is going to look back on their actions as a child/young adult and say yes, that totally was not cringe of me. This further compounded by the person's home life and/or if they're dealing with personal issues.

I was a pretty huge asshole as a kid and it's not like I mellowed out the moment I hit 18 either. I was dealing with a lot of stuff (i.e. such as undiagnosed autism/schizophrenia and psychologists refusing to take me seriously) and I dealt with it in a shitty manner by being this "edgy badass" online and just getting into online fights whenever I can because being deemed intimidating and scary online made up for the fact I was an insecure outcast offline.

I truly regret how I conducted myself back then. Regardless of what I was going through, nobody deserved to have to deal with me lashing out at them. It was also just embarrassing behaviour to boot.

But I do think bullying can certainly be counted as abuse and it certainly begets abusive tendencies (points to self, who was bullied throughout elementary and high school). But in that vain, I feel people respond to depictions of it in a manner that isn't exactly constructive and is borderline abusive itself, like the desire to outright commit assault or murder on said bully being depicted. lol

Because I also feel this question is also in reference to Rose and her behaviour and while I can't give much away on how we're going to handle her arc, I feel like people demanding she dies or whatever is just... Yeah, let's not. It's essentially 'I hope Vicious dies, particularly at the hands of her abuser' all over again.

It's clear Rose is growing up in a pretty unhealthy environment and is being groomed to take on a position of authority in said unhealthy environment.

I've seen the same kind of reception to irl children of cult leaders and the intent behind Rose's character is to deconstruct the fact that people - particularly children - are very much influenced by what surrounds them and will respond accordingly to it. We're social animals at the end of the day. Same goes for (anthropomorphic) lions. Not to mention what goes on in a cult that may seem alarming and disturbing to us is not necessarily the case for those within it... because they've been brainwashed into thinking it's OK. Rose is very much not exempt from this and her being groomed to become Queen by her father has only made things worse.

Anyway, my apologies, this thing got pretty long and also kinda personal and it probably also doesn't make a whole lot of sense but feeling that bullies cannot be redeemed? Totally get that. Responding to the depiction with unhealthy thoughts of child abuse or murder? I can't really get behind that. If there's room for growth and a chance for them to change rather than becoming outright established abusers as fully-fledged adults, I feel we should hope for that. - RJ

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Like everything, it depends on how it's done. I don't know what A Silent Voice is, but some things are just too far past forgiveness or redemption. Cuz at that point its not "bullying", it's hazing. If it's teasing, or there's mutual sass happening, or heck even if one person thinks the other is bullying but it was a misunderstanding (Amity calling Luz a bully in The Owl House), and its not full on harassment, or stalking, I don't see the harm in allowing someone to better themselves and liking how they've changed, especially if they're young. And I don't see a problem with a friendship beginning at a place of conflict and grow into something strong and meaningful. I don't even think forgiveness of the bullying itself is a requirement to move on? Maybe I'm just old so I handle things differently than like a teenager would, but certain stuff just stops bothering you. People I'm still friends with to this day weren't exactly pleasant to me early on in our relationship or vice versa, but we never "forgave" the infraction and we've all just moved on because the infraction in question was never done again which is something I personally care more about. I've actually had someone from High school see me years later and apologize for how they treated me. It was just all water under the bridge at that point. But what I think about how things are handled in media is not the same thing as real people. What might not be a big deal to one person might be a big deal for someone else. Again bully redemption is something to be done with care and more often just excuses abuse which is gross. But I've seen it done right, but I wouldn't exactly call it commonplace. - Cat

[maximotts]

rereading ph and i was wondering…what would happen if like one of them went too far? like they actually scared/hurt the reader like very seriously?

Interesting that you ask such a thing! I have draft currently where someone asked something similar and it's got a scenario where Nat goes too far with Wanda, but I have yet to approach the subject with reader involved.

I apologize, this is going to be a bit long, but I guess it's more of a set of headcanons than a fic so uh.. bon apetit, hurt/comfort situation lovers

private hire au masterlist.

Honestly, it would depend on a lot of things: how close Wanda and Natasha are to reader when it happens, where they are (i.e. is it a public scolding that's more emotional or is it something in private/the bedroom), and who it is that actually hurts them.

Assuming they're in the current place ( game night ) when reader gets hurt, Wanda and Natasha would care a lot and want to right it as best they know how. Which.. is still not always the healthiest.

If it were Wanda...

Say she was tearing into you so harshly in front of other people that maybe you break down and cry or even just run away depending on the setting because really, who wants to cry in front of strangers, she would feel terrible.

Devastated honestly, Wanda's much more afraid of you pulling away than Natasha is; she needs you to see her as a constant safe space for anything and always wants to be the one you run towards, never from.

If it was during a meeting she couldn't immediately leave, Wanda would handle everything as quickly as possible, but in the meantime she's getting someone to check on you. Preferably Nat, but if she's too far, most likely it'd be Bucky or Sam. Anyone who she knows would keep you out of harm's way, but continue to keep an eye on you for her.

Because you never really have a chance to slip away.

As soon as possible, Wanda'd get to wherever you fled, putting on her gentlest demeanor, hoping you're not upset enough with her that she has to apologize.

But when she sees you're shying away from her, Wanda's heart breaks.

Again, we've seen it before a bit in forgive and (don't) forget, but Wanda hates thinking she's upset you enough to push you away.

She'd get you the world if you asked, anything to coax you into talking to her and helping her understand where she went wrong because she needs to fix it. It'll eat away at her if you don't at least start to forgive her by the end of the day.

But then if you get hurt during sex with her...

She's apologetic instantly, but much more in tune to your physical and mental state than if it was just verbal like above.

Wanda's such a touchy person she'd want to hold you so bad, but understands if you need time to come back to reality.

There's tons of reassurance though, especially while she's cleaning you up and getting you into a cozy space, "You did so well, dove. I should've checked in earlier."

And there's not a second where she lets you try to take the blame; she won't hear of it.

Speaking of blame, even if it were a pure accident Wanda would take on so much guilt. She struggles a lot with knowing whether or not she's making the right decisions (as best you can as a mob boss) and tries very hard not to hurt anyone.

Seeing you hurt by her own hands makes her lose so much trust in herself. So much so that she might not trust being around you without someone else around.

Wanda would only get close with Natasha around and even if both of you try assuring her you'll be okay in time, she's terrified that she hurt someone she cares so deeply about.

For Natasha, it's a bit of a different story...

Nat says hurtful shit all the time, it's just a part of dealing with her.

If she's the one who notices you upset, she'll ignore your reactions easily, knowing you're not brave enough to outright leave. Even if you did, she's tracked down much worse targets than a young girl with nowhere to go.

She'll wait it out as long as she can, hoping you'll give up and leave your room once you calm down so you can both move past it.

But god forbid, Wanda talks to you while you're still upset because then Nat knows she's in for it and now not only does she have to apologize, she has to deal with her angry wife.

Part of her apology entails her awkwardly telling you to brush it off because you know she didn't mean it and even though what she said still hurts, you've got to nod and say okay. Nat's not going to give you a better apology than what she's already offered.

Natasha sees you shying away from her just as quickly as Wanda does, but it doesn't bother her and she'd rather wait until you judge her as harmless yourself instead of coaxing you back to her like Wanda does.

If it's a physical incident...

Natasha tends to be notoriously terrible with words, but when it comes to actions, she'll make sure to right her wrongs.

Not much horrifies her besides hurting someone helpless and removed as she can be with you at times, Nat cares for you a lot and she's well aware of how much power she wields over you.

Consequently, when you get hurt on her watch, by her own misjudgment, she's the most protective you've ever seen her.

She'll bandage any wounds, even ice bruises you shyly insist you don't mind, shushing you each time you even try to diminish the pain you're in.

Because you fully expect her to tell you to brush it off like she does when she says something mean, even speaking up to tell her you're hurt is a struggle, having been scared she'd advise you to suck it up.

And Natasha hates that. So much.

After that, she tries her hardest to be gentler to you. Helping you along as you recover, fetching you whatever you happen to mention you need even faster than Wanda can... the whole nine yards.

Anything to show you she never relishes in causing you real harm.

This doesn't really mention how much it'd affect Wanda to see you hurt, but she'd be livid with Natasha, her own possessive nature wanting to huddle you away from her wife while she nursed to back to health.

But after some persistence, you convince Wanda to let Natasha help which does honestly surprise Natasha given how attached she knows you are to the brunette.

Even just that little bit of reassurance renews Natasha's confidence that she hasn't completely fucked up her relationship with you which yes, is something she worries about whenever accidents happen.

[toxicourse]

sometimes people need to follow their own advice regarding internet safety.

im gonna discuss prose among trees recent post since i was quoted. ok the apology wasn't heartfelt i misread and mixed up genuine and heartfelt that's bad. sorry it was a genuine mixup.

but holy fucking shit you should not air out these issues publicly. i do not forgive micah for their previous actions against you, i wasn't directly involved it's none of my business and to be honest i don't care. they've apologized to you and there's nothing more to do on that front. no one is telling you that you have to forgive them, no one saying you need to befriend them (and im pretty much they don't even want to befriend you)

you've opened up these issues on a public platform, you don't want outsiders opinions? don't fucking post it on a public platform. i forgive micah for their previous opinions and participations in syscringe i forgive them for their bait blog. i have every single right to do that.

acting like because someone harmed you, they're no longer allowed to be liked by anyone on the internet is absolutely insane. you cannot expect that to happen and it WON'T happen. you seriously need to realize this is a large Tumblr space, not a tight knit friendship group. i don't know you. i don't know micah. i have literally less than 10 followers i am a nobody. genuinely these recent posts of this person seems like they are really needing to take a break of the internet because this cannot be healthy.

im gonna keep my opinion that micah has changed for the better and deserves a second chance. that's my opinion and only mine, no one else can dictate what i think. i hope everyone involved takes the time they need to feel better, genuinely. take care of yourselves.

[a-creature-as-bright-as-the-sun]

Howdy! I am thinking of coming back to this blog because I feel like it was important to me. Will be using it at least for a little while.

About me:

27

Transmasc/nonbinary/genderfluid-ish/bigender-ish

Primarily worships the Theoi (Hellenic, or Greek, gods), with a few additions

I am not a reconstructionist. I take my religion seriously, but I take my cue from the gods, not internet randos or even tradition 🤷🏻‍♀️ I've have never had an issue when approaching the gods without having washed my hands or face (and I generally forget, even when I did decide to incorporate it into my practice) or such like that. I do follow guidelines for core things, like not offering blood, etc. But I play pretty fast and loose with the rules, so you've have come to the wrong place if you are looking for a resource on reconstructionism. If you harass me about not adhering strictly to tradition and ritual structure, I will block you.

I worship the gods, not work with them. I am not a witch at all! I occasionally do divination (which is not witchcraft) but that is it!

Gods I Worship:

Main:

Aphrodite

Apollon

Zeus

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Occasional:

Hermes

Ares

Aristaios

Set

Lugh

Persephone

Dionysus

.

Interested In/Extremely Occasionally:

Hephaistos

Artemis

Skadi

Khione

Jesus (in combination with Dionysus, specifically)

Hera

Agathos Daimon (household spirit)

Freyr

Inanna

Loki

Nut

Ra

Geb

Sobek-Ra

Anubis?

I'm am for sure forgetting someone, but brainfart lol

Some Personal Views:

Fuck terfs! The gods love trans people!

Fuck nazis, fuck white nationalists, fuck folkists! Hatred has no place in this community.

Fuck mythic literalism. Please pick up a book and stop lying about Persephone and Aphrodite hating each other. The Theoi don't have irl beef, you can worship any of them with each other—they are a *family.* Additionally, gods were often worshipped together *because* of their beef in the mythos. Persephone and Aphrodite, Athena was given Pallas' name as an epithet even though she killed her (though they were admittedly friends/adoptive sisters)

The gods aren't going to smite you. This is mainly from a hellenic perspective because I'm am most educated about it. If you don't give an offering in a long time or something similar, you don't have to grovel and beg for forgiveness or offer an extravagant gift. Just give them an offering, talk to em/them, and don't worry about it. Kharis can always be reestablished. An exception to this would maybe be if you broke an commitment to a god. THEN asking for forgiveness and giving a nice offering would be appropriate. But they won't kill you or anything. People've who've have done this have mentioned that the blessings gifted to them by the gods were simply revoked, maybe added some additional misfortune. Which is pretty easily rectified, from what I understand. You can make amends. The gods are deeply accepting, understanding, and forgiving. They are not human. We don't live in a myth, and you do not need to fear any real harm from them (*especially* physical)

Related to the above, you cannot offend the gods on accident. If you learn later that you did something that they would rather you not do (in relation to your interactions with them), that's okay! You can do better now, the gods won't hold it against you if you didn't know ^-^ Now if you INTENTIONALLY try to piss them off, disrespect them to spite them in a fit of anger, then it is apology time.

Finally, no specific DNI. Just don't be an asshole and we're golden.

[tumbleweedtech]

Forgiveness

There's something that's been bothering me, for a long while. Well over a year. I'll put it under a cut because it's quite long.

It's in the way people apologize, and what they expect to come from it. If you harm someone, either deliberately or by accident, you owe them an apology. I'm aware that within courts of law this has consequences. I'm not talking about that level of harm or responsibility. The social contract is, when you harm someone you apologize, and attempt to right the wrong done. I was raised in a heavily catholic family, in a christian-centered community. I am not religious anymore, but I'm aware this informs my experiences, so please note I'm leaving the floor open to anyone else who has experienced a culture who treats apologies differently. In a very christian viewpoint - apologies aren't the important part. The forgiveness is. They insist it makes you christ-like, to forgive those who have harmed you. It's what Christ did on the cross, right? They know not what they do. Your god will forgive you if you apologize (confess) and attempt to right your wrongs (repent). This, I feel, has seriously tainted how people raised in a christian culture view apologizes to each other. I was abused as a child. I have been told, many, many times to forgive. Forgive my abuser. Because that forgiveness makes you christ-like, right? My forgiveness matters. Not that my abusers ever apologized or even recognized the wrongs they did. But that doesn't matter. They even try to twist it. "Doesn't living with that anger twist your heart? Forgiveness is freeing! You don't have to carry it around!" Actually, no. It protects me. I have not and will not forgive them, even if they were sorry. It reminds me that I must never, ever go back. That I must treat people better than I was treated. But where am I going with this? In a Christian-centric perspective, an apology is assumed an absolution. You have apologized, therefore the other person not only forgives you, but your faults, your sins, your crime? Are wiped clean. As if you confessed to your god, apologizing to your friend for hurting their feelings, the harm you have caused has been erased. Christ has risen again, your friendship has been repaired. In a christian perspective, there is no harm that is irreparable or irredeemable. Christians Parents have forgiven their children's murderers. This is a perspective entirely alien and unfathomable to me. But in the eyes of their god, in their religion, they have done what is right and holy. Their relationship with their god is safe

But relationships with other people does not work that way. Your relationships with other people are not your relationship with your god. When you harm someone, and you apologize, you do not automatically get forgiveness. It's not assumed. Especially if it's a shitty fucking apology. I've seen some incredibly shitty apologies. Refusal to take any sort of responsibility, blaming their mental health, their variety of diagnosis, even blaming the person they've harmed for reacting to shitty behaviour.

It's entirely possible to apologize for only your part in a situation in which you have both done wrong. "I'm sorry for accusing you of X. I should not have assumed Y of you, and when I said Z I was out of line." The other person may have responded with hurtful or harmful things. Hell, they may have even started it. But your feelings, your reactions, your words, are all your own responsibility. I have friends with plenty of diagnosis. Bipolar disorder. RSD. ADHD. Autism. Depression. Anxiety. None of this has stopped them from being kind, thoughtful, caring people. It hasn't stopped them from checking in, from apologizing when accidentally causing harm. I also know people who use their diagnosis as a weapon. They have X, Y, Z diagnosis, that's why they behave like an asshole. They make being a selfish, self serving, and thoughtless asshole a part of their personality and insist that because of that you should just understand and accept that. And if, in the rare instance that type of person attempts to apologize, it's never a good one. It's always "Well, you made me mad." or "You upset/triggered/annoyed me". Don't get me wrong - triggers are big and valid and a whole other discussion - but it's a word that's thrown around sometimes as a shield to explain why someone is not responsible for being nasty to someone. I'm off in the weeds. The point I'm coming around to is that these people surround themselves with reasons why you cannot criticize their behaviour (to a reasonable degree, ofc) and then they apologize.

Which in a christian-centric society, they not only feel like should solve any interpersonal issues that came of the disagreement/argument/harm, but should absolve them. I've said absolution quite a few times. But what does it mean? It means that they believe that it removes any consideration from this in the past, or in the future. As far as they're concerned, it no longer ever happened, because they have been forgiven and it will not be brought up again, nor will it impact the relationship they have with the person they are apologizing to. This is not how relationships with people work. If you harm them, an apology will be considered a step towards repair. Changing your behaviour to not harm again is a big step in repairing the relationship and trust. If the person forgives you, it does not mean your behaviour will be forgotten. It means you're being given a chance to prove that you will be better. It does not mean that your behaviour will be forgotten and everything will time jump back to before you made a bad choice. And it does not mean you get to harm them again. Because if you keep behaving that way? Keep harming people in the same way over and over again? You're not actually apologizing. And if you keep the same behaviour repeatedly, you do not deserve forgiveness (or absolution), because it's proven that you don't mean it. You will just keep on going, over and over. And when that's the case? Well. People need to stay angry at you, to remind themselves that you do not mean your apologies. You just want the chance to harm them again.

[mithliya]

Hi, I’m the “advice anon”, thank you for answering (oh my god that sounded like I am in a TV ad). Anyways, I explained the events here with another blog:

https://www.tumblr.com/letmywingsdown/732396002452078592/previous-anon-because-im-not-confident-enough

Again, thank you for, you know, letting me take your time haha <3

The thing is today I was arguing with my boyfriend. I’ll admit it was my fault because I initiated it for some very irrelevant dumb shit because I’ve been in a horrible mood lately. I knew I had to apologise once he began explaining to me how shitty it was, and I was about to but I couldn’t bring myself to actually say the words because I have a huge ego problem. So he smacked the left side of my face, my left cheek, because I just would remain stubborn and bitchy and not looking his way when he talked. It wasn’t harsh or violent and it didn’t hurt; just the wrist and upper side of the hand, quite quickly like when you have to tell off a kid. But it really caught me off guard and I stood there frozen. It feels like a boundary violation and when I brought up the subject to my mom (w/o saying it happened to me), she agreed. My bf started apologising right once I said how fucked up it was and I think it’s a genuine apology, but what am I supposed to do? I was getting on his nerves basically on purpose, and now I want to pretend I am the victim of the situation? But I was seriously just about to tell him I regretted making a fight up from thin air.. and stuff like that has happened twice before, once in my shoulder, the other one on my scalp. He continues apologising and I really want to forgive him because he is a lovely guy and the best thing that has ever happened to me, but how am I supposed to call myself a feminist and stuff when I am compliant once my boyfriend “beats” me? My father told me only the other day that women who stay in abusive relationships while knowing about the red flags are stupid. I disagree with him, but am I stupid? Or am I just thinking about this too much? I have childhood trauma, physical too, and I am unsure if I am overreacting because of being triggered rather than because it was objectively wrong to hit me.He seriously is a very nice guy and I have never felt as loved and I know his love is genuine, but this has left me unsettled and, as I said, it is not the first time. Even those two aforementioned events aside, there have been very off putting things in our relationship, like him watching porn and being into cnc (we never acted on them, just dirty talk); though I think the latter might have been my fault because I was the one mainly in it (again, trauma). This was years ago and our sexual life is very healthy now, and I know for a fact he despises porn as much as I do. So what should I do? He is the only person I have left because I am a lonely loser and our connection is so sincere but at the same time I don’t feel ensured that he would never ever harm me. Is it my trauma induced paranoia, or my intuition?

anon, no this is not at all ok. leave. please just leave. you might feel loved and he might have some good sides but there is literally no excuse for hitting you and he's clearly slowly escalating it further and further. abusers often slowly start pushing the boundaries of their partners and i fear that is what he's doing here. and him being into cnc is absolutely a red flag! ur making a lot of excuses for him which is normal, i did the same with my ex and it allowed her to take advantage of me and abuse me until she had all that she wanted from me. its not worth it. abusers like this often have a 'nice' side and will lovebomb you and have phases where they treat you well.. it's ultimately not worth it, at all. i know it's easier said than done, but just bc you haven't had better yet doesn't mean you never will, don't settle for him just because you want to be loved and because you think you can't get better: you can and its not worth it! take it from someone who DIDN'T leave, it's not worth it. you just feel used up and like you betrayed yourself for nothing in the end.

[tdbre-up]

FUCK R U LOOKIN' AT?

ON MY CHARLES WORTH GRIND COUTURE ONE OF A KIND IF SHE SEEK SHE SHALL FIND HER GOWN DRIPPING WITH DIAMONDS SPIDER SILK HER NEW ARMOR WON'T LET NOBODY HARM HER MICHELIN STARS OVER DINNER SAYIN' GRACE LIKE A SINNER PRAY THAT FATHER FORGIVE ME BITCHES TRYIN' TO TEMPT ME WHAT THE FUCK ELSE DO YOU EXPECT WHEN YOU'RE THIS FUCKIN' WEALTHY? IMMORTALIZE MY SWAG I AIN'T BACK IN MY BAG BITCH I BEEN POPPIN' TAGS FUCK ARE YOU LOOKIN' AT? CATCH ME DOWNTOWN, THEY'RE VALETING MY WRAITH PACKED SOME SLUTS IN MY LAMBO THINK MY URUS FITS EIGHT AND AFTER I'VE HAD ME SOME FUN THEN I'M PASSIN' MY WOADIE SOME 'CAUSE IT'S CATCH AND RELEASE I DON'T SEE NO POINT IN JUST HAVIN' ONE YOU JUST DO YOU AND I'LL DO ME LET'S JUST AGREE TO DISAGREE I'M ON MY OWN TIME I GOT ME A DEGREE IN HOROLOGY YOU'RE BITCH INTO ASTRONOMY I KEEP HITTIN' HER APOGEE WHATCHU LOOKIN' AT ME FOR? LIKE I OWE YOU AN APOLOGY I CAN'T TAKE THESE HOS SERIOUSLY LIKE YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME SHE PLAYS HARD TO GET BUT I BET I COULD GET HER TO MARRY ME IF SHE DRESS FOR THE JOB SHE WANT THEN SHE UNDRESS COMPLETELY ALL THESE OTHER HOS BEEN ACTING LIKE THEY ALREADY KNOWIN' ME IT JUST GOES TO SHOWIN' ME 'M THE CHOSEN ONE MAKIN' HISTORY IS SOMETHING THEY'VE COME TO EXPECT FROM ME IT COMES NATURALLY, ACTUALLY I AM MY OWN MEDICI FAMILY I HANDLE MY BUSINESS SO THAT THESE BUSINESSMEN CAN'T HANDLE ME I'M FLIPPIN' THE SCRIPT ON THESE BITCHES SINGLE-FUCKIN'-HANDEDLY NOW I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT THEY JUST COULDN'T STAND IN ME THE CONFIDENCE, THE CLARITY, I'M SOMETHING OF A RARITY I CUT THE GRASS TO CATCH THE SNAKES THAT TAKE WHATEVER THEY CAN FROM ME I PUFF MY CHEST AND KEEP MY HEAD HELD HIGH EVEN WHEN THEY'VE SURROUNDED ME I BOUGHT MYSELF A NEW HOUSE JUST IN CASE MY MONKEY SEE, MONKEY DO ONE OF ME, TEN OF YOU DIME A DOZEN I'M THE DIAMOND IN THE ROUGH THAT'S SHINING LIKE YOU STILL AIN'T FIND IT I'M THE SECRET SO BIG THAT IT BLEW UP WHEN YOU TRIED TO HIDE IT I'M THE ONE THAT GOT AWAY - YOUR GIRL THINKS ABOUT WHEN YOU'RE FIGHTING I'M THE ONLY THING THAT SHINES - FUCK BEIN' THE VERY BRIGHTEST ALL THAT OTHER SHIT'S FOOL'S GOLD, YOU COULD SAY MY TOUCH LIKE MIDAS YOU CAN SUCK MY DICK MUST I REMIND YA? NO ONE EVEN LISTENS TO THESE RAPPERS THEY'RE COMPARING ME TO IT'S SO EMBARRASSING TO HEAR SOMEONE COMPARING ME TO YOU I KEEP MY HEAD DOWN 'CAUSE I KNOW IN TIME THEY ALL WILL SEE THAT YOU ARE JUST A COPY OF A COPY - IT'S CRAZY HOW PEOPLE TRY TO SHUT YOU DOWN AFTER ALL THAT YOU PUT THEM ON TO IT'S CRAZY HOW PEOPLE DON'T APOLOGIZE, EVEN WHEN THEY'RE WRONG, TOO IT'S CRAZY HOW PEOPLE TRY TO PULL YOU DOWN, EVEN WHEN THEY'RE DROWNING,TOO

[theunderneath]

Just a tought. If you'd like : What about yandere mihawk and Doflamingo punishing their darling (gn or male if you're okay with it) for something they didn't do. Heavy punishment only to discover someone else did it. How would they apologise? Would the poor so( who may have went willingly with them cause they understood that they had no choice) react?

Thank you

Aw this kinda makes me sad :( 

Dracule Mihawk

“I was mistaken, I'll accept that. Tell me what I can do for you to forgive me.”

While Mihawk might be suspicious about the gravity of the punishment he has to give since it isn't often he has to. What he isn't suspicious of is his Darling going willingly. Since he makes it an expectation that once they do something bad, they should own up to it.

His usual punishments are scolding and maybe being locked in a room without dinner. The reason he does this is because if he seriously harms his Darling over small things, they will grow to hate him. That all changes when they cross the line.

So Mihawk's super bad punishment is starvation for a week to a month without any contact from him. An extreme version of his normal ones. He will give them water so they don't die, but he slips it into their enclosed room without windows while they sleep.

Remember when I said that it's an expectation that his darling has to own up to their mistakes and the consequences. He holds himself to the same thing. So once he finds out his mistake, he instantly stops the punishment. Mihawk will pull out his darling from the enclosed room and begin to pamper them. This is what he usually does but ten times more.

Mihawk would usually stop pampering them after they've recovered from the punishment but he doesn't. He wants to make it clear he is extremely sorry and his way is waiting hand and foot on them for a while. Honestly, this is a really good way to try and escape by guilting him into taking them shopping on an island or whatever.

After they've recovered fully he'll offer a deal, to keep the peace. The offer he makes is to even the scales. This means they can do anything they deem the same worth as their mistake punishment to him. Mihawk wants to set things straight by apologizing and letting them vent their anger.

Mihawk understands quite well that this could make or break everything he’s been building. Trust is everything in relationships. So when he makes a mistake he will admit to it and do anything he can do to make it better.

Donquixote Doflamingo

“Shit!”

This man has major trust issues. So any little thing he sees as a betrayal from his darling could result in the worst punishment. His darling would learn quickly that running is useless and lying is even more useless. So when punishment time comes around, he expects subservience and regret. It's the only way Doflamigo can feel like he can trust them again, after punishment of course.

His serious punishments are usually physical and short. His lighter punishment is more on the manipulative side, but we're not here for that. His serious punishment is done by his devil fruit, his string digging into his darling's skin until they beg for forgiveness. Doflamingo will make them beg until he's satisfied, before dropping them on the ground to clean themselves up. This can last anywhere from a few minutes to a few hours. It really depends on how sadistic he feels.

After realizing his mistake, which will probably happen after since the punishment is short and he makes sure no one interrupts the two. So if it happens the second he leaves the room to go be angry somewhere else, he'll turn his ass around and immediately tell his servants to get the best doctors in the castle. It's funny to think he walks out of the room, gets confronted by one of his servants, and orders whoever actually did it to death/torture, before turning his butt around to "comfort" his Darling.

The reason I say "comfort" is because he feels like he can't. Like he goes to pull them into his arms but he feels wrong. Doflamingo feels disgusted in himself while he hovers over their cut form. He can't bring himself to touch them at all. So he just hovers beside them, waiting for the doctors. The sad thing is that he can't muster the courage to apologize either, so he looks down at them with fear.

Dolfamingo fears that they'll hate him, that they'll never forgive him for what he's done. It's a cruel twist of fate, the world-crushing betrayal that brought him to hurt them is now turned on him. Not that they could hurt him, but he understand how he hurt them. Not just physically but emotionally. He is left to wonder if they were hoping he was smart enough to see that they didn't betray him.

Anyways onto the after. The doctor will come in and treat them, stitching any wound they have and plastering the others. He'll be by their side unless they show a desire for him to leave. Which he will frown at but understand. I mean he was gonna leave them to clean themselves up because he couldn't stand seeing them in that moment.

So many gifts are given to his darling afterward. All of the things, he gives you are extremely high-quality. It’s his way of saying sorry. Also, he’ll bring you to watch the person who actually deserves the punishment get tortured/executed. He wants to make them a statement to never blame shit on his darling and or make sure no one looks over something like this again.

He probably won’t put himself through the punishment he did for them, nor will he let them hit him (too much, he still feels bad so he'll excuse a few love taps in the heat of the moment). He will at least trust them more after this. Actually, take their word for what they did and didn't do. It just makes him happy they when willingly instead of fighting him. It enforces that they love him and are willing to get hurt for him. He would do the same, so it goes both ways.

[arcadejohn127-9]

Hello! :) Is it ok if i request the brothers (and the undateables if possible 👉🏻👈🏻) with a teenage MC who's not afraid to call them out whenever they do something stupid/harmful/immoral and has very high morals in general? Like, when Lucifer tried to kill Luke they were furious cause he wanted to kill a child (actually 2 but..), or (this is based the first chat with him after ch.16) when Belphie goes "come on, that's mean!1! >:(" They reply with, "hahah! Wanna know what else is mean?(◠‿◕) The fact that you literally killed me for EXISTING, and when you found out that i was your sister's descendant you were all buddy-buddy with me. You're an hypochrite(Is that how you say it??) And you're a shitty person in general, you killed a CHILD. So i think it's very clear who's the mean one here." (GSJSGSJ I'M SO SORRY THAT IT'S SO LONG AND SASSY-) or they go full on rant about CONSENT with Simeon for the angel event. They also don't really accept opinions about their morals, like:

Diavolo: *lectures them about how humans and demons are different and how things that are clearly wrong in the human world are not in the Devildom*

MC: hm... That's a very well-elaborated and and valid arguement, but something doesn't feel right so i'm gonna just stick with my previously elaborated opinion!(✿^‿^) (wich translates into "i think your opinion is bullshit but i can't exactly tell you that so i'm just gonna be polite about it.")

I think they'd be embarassed being called out by someone who's literally an infant compared to them GSJSGSJ

you can ignore it if too similar to the sassy MC! ^^ i'm sorry it's so long 🥺

While this is very similar to my previous ask, I can do something for you! Hope I was able to put your prompt into proper essence, whilst writing this I got quite heated myself as I started to think how insane it must be for MC In the game

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"I'm tired." You suddenly barked out, everyone turned their attention to you.

There was a big meeting including the student counsel and the exchange students. You were sitting at the end of the table; every second of noise was like a hammer to your self control. Your anger slowly rising higher and higher until it felt like you were suffocating in it. Satan was the first to notice; sensing the sin like it was a strong disgusting smell.

"What...? Are you really interrupting the meeting just to say you're tired?" Lucifer snarled at you.

"Oh, of course Lucifer is the one to make a rude comment, what? Annoyed I'm making my feelings known?!"

None of them understood what the sudden uproar was. All of them staring at you with wide surprised eyes. You were often one for remarks and expressing your thoughts but this was different; you've snapped. The hatred and anger in your eyes were uncomfortable. They made you look like a completely different person.

"What is the meaning of this? You're being unnecessarily angry-"

"I'M UNNECESSARILY ANGRY?! Oh ho ho~ you tried to kill Luke for being in the house! A LITERAL CHILD!"

Lucifer was stunned; freezing under your intense glare. Everyone's eyes darting over to his figure. He wanted to say more, he wanted to make you shut up. You could understand that look on his face all too well; you exactly what he wanted to say to you. But no, he couldn't possibly do it Infront of Lord Diavolo.

Your anger was only fueled more as you stood up from your seat.

"All of you are a threat! I'm a teenager, DAMNIT! How many times have I had my life put at risk because of one of you or have been threatened to be murdered or harmed - the only reason you didn't do it because you didn't want to cause issues with Diavolo or wanted me for your personal gain!"

"Do you know how meaningless that can make a person feel?! All of you are rotten, horrible beings!"

They all shared a shameful and uncomfortable look; the exchange students weren't sure if they were supposed to be in this conversation. Seeing as the focus was set on the brothers actions. Barbatos tried to warn something like this would happen but no one would take his words seriously. They expected something alot less intense.

"Come on, don't be mean-" Belphie tried to speak, keeping his tone playful as if believing that would fix it.

"You know what's mean, Belphegor? Killing a defenseless child for simply existing and then never apologizing - mind you, NO ONE HERE HAS EVER APOLOGIZED FOR THREATENING ME OR TRYING TO KILL ME - and then having the AUDACITY to be buddy buddy with me after finding out I'm related to your sister."

All the brothers expect Satan winced at your words. Their sister being a sensative topic and to hear you speak of it with such venom in your voice. They weren't sure what to do, some wanted to yell at you, others wanted to leave. But no one did anything. It felt as if they were all frozen.

Was this your magic? Was this harsh feeling of someone stepping on their chest coming from their pacts with you?

But that was just the brothers; the others were feeling a similar discomfort but they knew if they dared tried to leave it would end in chaos.

"But no, I'm mean,I'm the big meanie here who isn't being sweet and forgiving over being put into continuous danger, I'm SO sorry."

You forced a tight sarcastic smile, pretending to be upset.

"Now, let's all calm down, you have to understand - Demons and humans they just don't work the same, what is immoral to you won't be the same here, this is very different kind of society, you came here to be taught and learn to understand these other realms you were unaware of-"

It was now Diavolos turn to be utterly destroyed.

"Everything about that made me feel disgusted, so you're fine with all sorts of immoral acts? That's what you're telling me?"

The demon prince caught onto what you're implying and realized what his words meant, he quickly tried to fix his mistake but you weren't having it. Speaking over him, raising your voice as much as you could to drown him out.

"How about YOU understand MY society and my world's rules!"

"Here's the thing, your lordship, I didn't consent to be here, I didn't agree to be whisked off from my normal life and away from everything I've known, you forced me here and expected me to just deal with it - Solomon knows more about this program than me!"

"You're right, there should of been better preparation but you have to understand the differences between-"

It seems no one has learned. Your head snapped towards the older angel. You began to slowly trudge over to him.

"I'm so glad you decided to speak up, Simeon, because talking about consent, did you even know what those bangles would do to the brothers??? Did you just think it would be all fun and games to just make them angelic again despite knowing their history? None of them were okay about it and you just went ahead with it anyway - THEY WERE PRACTICALLY BRAINWASHED!"

Everyone in the room felt a sharp whiplash from your words. From one moment being furious and despising the brothers to now scolding someone who's harmed them.

"I didn't know it would be like that-!" He truely didn't, he felt awful about what they did.

"And yet you didn't seem to be in a rush to do anything about it, to me you seem to rather enjoy seeing them like that."

He couldn't say anything. He couldn't even try. Simeon just let his head drop in shame, knowing your words were true.

"Everyone here expect Solomon and Luke are innocent - Barbatos you're on thin fucking ice."

You snarled, pointing over to the butler. He didn't flinch under your gaze. Just staying composed and beside his master.

"I'm out of here." You declares, spinning on your heel and stormed out.

Luke suddenly jumped off his seat; tears streaming down his face and rushed after you. Calling out for you as he ignored Simeon's pleas.

The room was silent as everyone mewled over your words. Stunned they all got cussed out by a mere teenager and all of them knew; you were right.

[chaoticrebels]

//hehe, well I can't deny that they would be kinda cute together. So I'll join you down the rabbit hole.

There was a moment where Kimo didn't say anything, just looked at her with a curious expression. He didn't know why but it didn't seem like Layla was too thrilled by the idea of him meeting Sean, which was silly wasn't it? Because weren't they friends? Unless the little mouse didn't trust him to meet the realm traveler, to meet this guy she kept mentioning. But that was ridiculous, right? No, maybe not but he wasn't about to comment on his suspicions.

❝Oh so you are leaving in an half an hour. what were you doing to do til then if I didn't decide to be social with you?❞ He asked, ignoring the possibility of meeting Sean for a moment. ❝Well then I'll finally have a face to him, finally know this person who you keep talking about.❞ They say curiosity killed the cat but seriously, what could go wrong?

At her comment about knights not holding a gun to someone's head, he couldn't help but to laugh. A broad smile flashed across his features until he realized his fangs were on display, which caused him to cover his mouth pretty fast; abnormally fast for someone who was meant to be a normal human but he didn't need her to see his double fangs. ❝Oh no, no, no. Most knights definitely do not hold a gun to someone's head, prefer to use swords I do believe. Ah, so you know a real knight in shining armor. Well I am enthused that he embodies everything a knight in shining armor is, would be consider high treason if he betrayed whom he is meant to be protecting or I assume it would be.❞ He mused, which almost made him wonder if his so called bodyguard had been peeping on them. Given as a favor for his mother, he posed as his "father" that lived near by to keep an eye on him. ❝Ahh, well he must have quite the reputation then. M' that works for me. And you'll have to forgive me but mousey just had such a nice ring to it that I couldn't resist.❞

A soft amused chuckle escaping his throat as his facial features lit up in amusement, loving the fact that he had managed to make her blush with his honesty of why he bit his lip. She could rest assure though, he wasn't turned on in the slightest right now. It was between uncertainty and nervousness that had him biting him lip in this case. ❝Yeah, yeah, probably. I mean one can never be too careful in the line of work I'm in, after all being an assassin is bound to make one some enemies.❞ There was no way he was going to add the fact he was also a spy and royalty which only added to it.

Kimo was in the process of waving off her apology when he heard the question, which caused his colorful hues to widened momentarily. Oh fuck, well technically he shouldn't be surprised the question popped up since he did slip up and spoke his native language when he was caught off guard. But now that meant he had to expose himself or lie, and lying would just be awkward so he sighed, trying his hardest not to bite down on his freshly healed lips. ❝Elvish.❞ Kimo remarked, before letting his glamor on his ears vanish since might as well let her know the truth now.

Then she was apologizing again and the elf couldn't help but to wave her off once more. ❝Don't apologize, it's fine. Just caught me off guard.❞ He shrugged like it was nothing before snorting softly, shaking his head moments later. ❝Layla, stop. It's fine, really. Just a warning would have been nice, after all I could have stab you instead of exposing myself.❞ And he wouldn't be able to forgive himself if he did harm her because he didn't want to hurt his new friend.

❝Alright, hot chocolate it is.❞ The assassin voiced, making his way to the kitchen. ❝Oh, so this might be the last time I see you mousey? That's a shame but sure, I can at least share some details but don't tell a soul.❞ He gave her a few minutes to answer while he gathered everything he would need to make some hot coco for her, and only once it was in the process of warming up, did he turn his full attention back to her. ❝As you see I'm not human, I appear human but I'm actually an elf. And just like you, I'm not from here. I'm from Alfheim. And you already know that I'm an assassin, but I'm more than just an assassin, I'm also an entertainer. But as much as I love making music, it drives my personal bodyguard nuts. He thinks I should be more cautious with pretty myself out there, given that I'm royalty where I come from. My mother sent me here to protect me from something, not sure what. Only my pretend father knows but he won't tell me anything so, though given the fact the dark elves went to war with Asgard, maybe that has something to do with it. Beats me, I don't know.❞

Was that too much, probably but it was the gist and a good place to start.

There was no denying it, as Kimo almost seemed disappointed he might never have the possibility of meeting Sean in person. It was something that Layla was just going to have to accept, part of her worrying in the back of her mind that the moment Kimo met Sean he would completely forget she even existed.

----but that was just life wasn't it? Some people just shined brighter than others and Layla was used to playing the supporting character, the background extra, the person who always fell into the role of the little sister type if any sort of friendship were to develop. So, she had done what she usually did, forcing the best smile she could muster as she looked at Kimo and ignored the thoughts running through her head.

“He is coming to pick me up in a half hour, you can meet him then.”

After all, might as well just rip off the band-aid all at once, right?

Layla had tilted her head as Kimo told her the other forms of his name he actually preferred to be called, and she couldn't help but to softly laugh when he mentioned it made him seem like a knight in shining armor. “Most Knights don't hold a gun to the back of somebody's head either, so there is that. I actually know a knight in shining armor, Alexander. He is everything that a knight embodies. Loyal, noble, kind --” She smiled thinking about him, “We haven't actually met in person, well, maybe in passing, but his reputation precedes him. I don't have many nicknames myself, well, besides Mouse, and apparently now Mousey, --- I'll call you Ki' from now on.”

Oh. Oh dear had Layla's cheeks flushed bright pink when Kimo went into further explanation about why he bit his lips much, the dropping of the words turned on had her throat suddenly dry. The point of the matter was, as she sorted through his explanation of all the reasons he had bit his lip, the most logical explanation was that he was nervous. After all, it wasn't like he was expecting to see her and he seemed to think she had only returned to see him so that she could extract some devious plan of revenge against him. She wasn't that devious, but he didn't know her well enough yet to trust that.

“Maybe I make you nervous because you think I only came here to kill you.” That was, after all, the only reason that Layla could think of, right before she had used her magic to heal his lips, not at all recognizing the language he had used. “I'm just healing your lips, I apologized if I overstepped, I - what language was that?--” Of course she would never think to ask what he was, to her that would have been incredibly rude.

It was clear that Layla had overstepped. “I really am sorry, I don't know what came over me.” She really didn't, she usually wasn't that bold. “I won't do that again, I promise.” She had held up two fingers to swear it as he explained he didn't actually have any tea to offer her. “Oh, no, its fine, please don't trouble yourself. Hot chocolate will do just fine. If it is alright though, I would like to know more about you, whatever you are comfortable telling me, in case we don't see each other again.”

As the last words left her lips, she had followed him into the kitchen.

[maplecornia]

chapter 6

𝔴𝔬𝔯𝔡 𝔠𝔬𝔲𝔫𝔱: 1.17K

𝔤𝔢𝔫𝔯𝔢: romance | slice of life | fluff | angst | bts x female!reader | ot7

𝔰𝔲𝔪𝔪𝔞𝔯𝔶: You watched them from the sidelines ever since you were a young teenage girl. Now you’re grown up, they’ve returned after 2 long years and everything has changed. What happens when you pull back the mask and find the darkness within? What happens when you see that they’re broken?

𝔞/𝔫: i'm seriously considering uploading a chapter each day until I'm all caught up with all the chapters I have waiting. easy binge material lmao

𝔴𝔞𝔯𝔫𝔦𝔫𝔤𝔰: cliffhangers | angst | fluff | slight mentions of self hatred | depression | mental health illness | self harm | occurs in the year 2024 | set in a timeline where BTS went to the military together | slight language tags: @kookaine | @fangirl125reader | @kookiebbyxx | @taradevonne

“BigHit Entertainment.”

The whole place is intimidating. Big and looming, looking more like a corporate building than BigHit studio. Multiple people are roaming about, some on tours, others heading to work, each one looking highly qualified, mature, and confident.

They know what they're doing.

Do you?

Swallowing hard, you meet the building with a steady gaze, taking a calming breath before heading forward, and entering it. The revolving door swinging shut behind you, you come to a stop as soon as you enter eyes wide in astonishment.

Everything is pure white, or at least, shades of it. The walls are stone; cold, plastered paint slathered in every nook and cranny. The floors are made of smooth white ceramic tiles that have a thin glossy sheen to them, like marble in museums. The windows of the building are one-way, much like mirrors.

The light from outside mixing with the light on the inside walls creates a bright contrast that calms the nerves.

So many people are there. Tour guides leading small parties down the halls. Managers hurrying to and fro. Receptionists at the front desk taking multiple calls. People waiting in the waiting room near the entrance.

As you take it in, as you ponder at it, you can feel your own heart calm itself. Your heartbeat slows, and your breath evens out, the knot in your throat unwinding.

You find yourself at ease, despite the busy attitude of the place.

As though you belong here.

However, the stupor the studio has you in is quickly broken by a group of people who enter behind you.

They shove past you and you stumble a bit forward, caught off guard. They quickly murmur an apology before moving along. Shaking it off you take a deep breath, as you set your sights on the receptionist's desk.

You best get this over with.

At the thought of meeting Kim Namjoon, RM of BTS for the first time, you can feel the knot rewinding and wish you could just lose yourself in the beauty of the place once more. You know that's not possible though, you have to stay focused, you have to be aware of yourself.

Reaching the desk, you wait for the receptionist to notice you.

She holds a phone up to her ear, talking animately while she types something frantically on the office computer. You wonder if you should leave and come back a bit later, but her eyes glance towards you and she holds up a finger for you to wait.

You swallow hard, and nod, trying hard not to stare as you wait obediently.

She's quite pretty, her long dark hair tied up into a bun, few stranglers from a hectic day trailing down her ivory neck. She has a small face, large brown eyes accompanying small plump lips. Though she has done her makeup quite dutifully, it's obvious that she doesn't need it. She has the looks of an elegant porcelain swan, almost as though one touch would break her.

Sighing as she sets down the phone, she spins to you and smiles. It doesn't seem that sincere considering it doesn't reach her eyes, and you can tell she'd much rather return to her phone call. You'd hate to keep her from it so you hope you can make this quick.

"Hello!" she greets. "Welcome to BigHit entertainment, how can I help you today?"

You smile hastily back before pulling out your phone and bringing up the letter of recommendation that Jaejin sent you so that they wouldn't think you're a fraud.

"Hi." You answer back, trying to be polite nevertheless.

"I'm here, as the replacement for Mr. Kim Namjoon's assistant manager?" You show her the picture, approving your statement. Once she's done reading it, her eyes raise to yours, all hints of the smile gone. Looking at you with slight annoyance, she starts rummaging behind the desk, gathering a clipboard and a few pieces of paper.

"You were supposed to be here 3 hours ago. Are you aware of that?" she snaps, and you swallow hard, still upset about everything.

"Yes. I'm sorry, I...." you ponder over whether or not to explain it to her. "...it won't happen again. Please, forgive me."

What?

There’s no reason for her to know, and besides, she may see it as empty excuses.

You bow your head slightly to her, and she sighs, holding up her hand.

"Please don't, I'm not the one you need to apologize to." Slowly, you rise, nodding silently. At the sight of your guilty expression, she sighs once more, before smiling, this one real.

"But I wouldn't worry, Park Jimin makes the same mistake all the time, and all Mr. Namjoon can do is smile and shake his head." When you smile in disbelief, she presses her hand against yours, smiling softly.

"It'll be okay." You nod, and she pulls away, clearing her throat.

"Now, Mr. Namjoon is heading to a meeting that concerns BTS, so you'll have to wait a while. As you do, please fill out these forms, officially stating that you're taking the position of his assistant manager." You nod, taking the forms, and reading them over almost immediately.

"Do you need a pen?" the receptionist questions, and you shake your head smiling softly.

"No thank you...." peering at her badge, you smile before saying her name. "...Kim Jojo."

At first, she seems a bit surprised that you said her name, but as she turns to her badge, she chuckles and nods.

"You're welcome, please take a seat in the waiting room as you wait." You nod and step back from the desk, reading over the papers on the clipboard.

They are simple documents, ones that are required when getting a new job anywhere. Name, address, security number, things like that.

Sighing, you raise your head, turning around abruptly.

A little too abruptly.

As you turn and step forward, you crash into someone right behind you, the coffee he has in his hands exploding between the two of you.

You cry out in surprise, as does the random stranger, each of you rebounding off the other and stumbling back. Hardly any of the coffee falls on you, most of it spilling over on his shirt. He hisses in surprise, pulling the soaked shirt off of his chest.

Your eyes widen in shock and horror at what you've done and you immediately step back, placing the clipboard back on the counter.

"I'm so sorry!" you cry out, reaching for emergency towels that you keep in your satchel. "I wasn't looking where I was going and I...."

However, as your eyes catch a glimpse of his face, your words falter, your hand tightening around the towel.

You know those eyes, you recognize that hair, you've memorized the same curve of that jawline.

You hardly notice everyone else around you, how they begin to whisper about the commotion, as they all notice what you did.

Why wouldn't they?

Who would look away when the person you've spilled coffee all over is none other than...

Jeon Jungkook.

𝔫𝔬𝔱𝔢: our first real encounter with a BTS member! isn't it exciting? chapter 7 here

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[wrong-tryagain]

I felt like a horrible shit earlier today bc of something on Twitter. This amazing man, Chance Terry, does his thing with his tic toc's, and he revealed the next selected celebrity was gonna be Mark Pellegrino. (Yay I thought).

Now, I didn't know this, and I'm pretty sure poor Chance T. didn't know this either; but there's A LOT of turbulence on the net 'bout Mark P. I had NO idea, and no one I know knew either.

Turns out there's a lot of hate and stuff going 'round directed at M.P. And for this, C.T was overwhelmed with negative comments on wanting to make his vid on MP like he has with others. This made him react with a block on several people till he'd thought it over, he unblocked those people again and made an apology vid... In my opinion, this should not have been necessary. To me, It's not acceptable or okay that so many people can bombard one man and make him so uncomfortable that he feels he has to apologize for his reaction and for something he and many others had no clue was going on which he had nothing to do with. If I don't like people I just keep my distance, I don't tell other people to hate or avoid that person, I keep it simple and just states I don't like the person if I feel like I should say it, but otherwise I try to let people make their own choice to like them if they feel like it. And if he feels like it, C.T should be able to make his harmless vid without being spammed to the point he feels so uncomfortable that it comes to what happened for him- no one should feel like this! That's not okay, man.

I felt like shit to see this, and I felt even more shitty when I commented and honestly not knowing about the "war" against M.P and got hit with a pic of 1 out-of-context-taken piece, out of a whole line of tweets M.P had written. I felt like I was slapped in the face with the tweet, as was some others, and I felt like I was somehow the bad guy, just for liking a person someone else apparently didn't.

I don't feel that's an okay way to do things. I felt so bad for no friggin reason cause this tweet I was hit with wasn't actually that short and didn't actually have the background or the meaning that person thought it did: it was just one tiny piece of a longer string of tweets M.P had made years ago, one piece out of context cause tweet boxes can't contain that much text so he had to make several tweets to make that long comment. (String + full text on tweets, see attached pic's).

Now, I know it's easy to develop very strong opinions on things, even if you only just heard about them. But maybe we should all seriously consider doing a bit more research before thinking about slapping someone else with that. one. piece. of the puzzle we've found. Research so you have the bigger picture before giving others a lesson like a slap-on sticker in the face, choose to be kind even if someone before you wasn't. Allow yourself to rage to air out what you need to air to be okay, but don't DIRECT your rage on people if it can be avoided, especially if they don't deserve it.

Yeah, okay, I know some of this can sound a little hypocritical after my little rant here, but I'm actually not mad at specific or nonspecific people, I'm just generally disappointed.

I like C.T and I like M.P and I like a lot of others; for their work, their personalities, their differences, their insights, their awesome weirdness, or even for simple things like making me smile or laugh even for just a moment. I'd like to keep feeling that I can keep doing that if I feel like it. I'd like to not have someone try to ruin this or try to push their opinions over my head to make me make their opinions mine or whatever else it could be about.

You don't have to do, think or feel like I do; we're all different people, there should be room for differences and space for mistakes, improvement and forgiveness, but that's just my opinion.

I don't know if there's actually anything to any of what's going on about M.P and other people, or if most or all of it is just misunderstandings and misperceptions. But I do know that there's always 2 sides of a coin, it's good to be good to others, and thing's shouldn't be taken out of context.

I am sorry if anyone gets mad or offended by any or all this I've posted here, again I'm not mad, I don't mean any kind of harm by this, I just needed to rant the rage of frustration off of my chest and air it out of my head or I'd go mad. 🤯🤪🤡

Also, I have this tiny hope this won't be perceived negatively, neither the stuff above nor the stuff below.

If you read this, or some of this, and feel like sending me pics or comments telling me to hate on Mark Pellegrino or someone else or the reason you might do it, I have something to ask of you:

Please don't.

I like liking whoever I like for whatever reason I have or don't have.

I just needed to air this to lift the crushing clutter in my headspace, I don't want to add more instead, and I only added the pics so if anyone wants to know what string of tweets I'm ranting 'bout, they can. So please ignore this post if it bugs you, I'm not woth your effort to make me see things the way you might want me to. I like my bubble, please don't try to pop it. 😅🙏

Anyway, that was a lot of ranting. Sorry for that folks, don't think too much of it tho. I hope you're all well and I wish good days to come your way. Don't worry, I'm done now. 😅 Peace out. ✌

[theangelicsystem]

Hello, so I'm not here to try to argue with you or fight you or anything like that. I just have some thoughts and I would like to share them with you, just this once, I'll probably never visit this blog again so there's no need to even publish this ask if you do not want to. I would just like us to think about some things for a moment.

Based on your DNI, you appear to be against fakeclaimers. Those who deny the legitimacy and experiences of people who fall outside their accepted definitions. And yet, (perhaps not in these exact words) you deny the legitimacy of systems who are not the result of trauma. Does this not strike you as hypocritical? What makes it ok for you to do this with regards to multiplicity, but not for others to do with other topics? Does anyone, regardless of origin, deserve to be told that they do not exist? How are you so certain that trauma is the only way for a system to form? Is there any possibility of information that might convince you otherwise?

Again, this is not meant to be antagonistic. Maybe you have answers to all of these questions. Maybe you have pondered all of them extensively and have your own clear reasons for why you hold the things you do to be fact. But maybe you have never asked yourself these questions, or never bothered to answer them seriously, even just to yourself, if someone else has asked.

There are no "wrong" answers, as this is not a test. Even if you do publish a response, I will not see it (and even if I do, it will not matter. These questions are for you, not me). These are simply things that anyone of any age who speaks and acts with conviction would do well to consider from time to time. They can bring a certain clarity, affirm a purpose, or expose faulty or dishonest logic. They are what you make of them.

Apologies, this message has gotten longer than intended, so I will leave you with this food for thought, and once more clarify that none of this is meant to be attacking or scolding. I am simply passing along a good turn once done for me by someone just as much a stranger as I am to you.

Endogenic's and their supporters do NOT deserve our system's support. The amount of ableist harm along with death threats and hate they have given is beyond forgivable. The fakeclaimers is simply for traumagenics only. We are not going to get furthur into this because quite frankly endogenics and their supporters don't know how to listen.

[eylih]

You're completely right.

I must admit I personnaly don't like him. For me, he's more the kind of characters I love to hate. But I'm not interested in him. I don't know if that makes any sense...

If that was just for me, he wouldn't reappear at all, or it would be something similar that in Frozen 2.

But this isn't about me. As I always state, y'all have the right to like whatever you like, it ain't my business as long as you don't cause harm.

Hans acted horrible in the first movie, just because it's fiction and he has a "backstory" doesn't mean any of this should be minimize. The trolls theory is, at the end the day, a ✨️theory✨️. What's canon is Hans is an asshole hungry for power who:

-Plot the murder of someone who did nothing wrong to him

-Manipulate a young, naive girl who easily trapped because of years of isolation and he was planning to do it to Elsa first

-Convince everyone (including the audience, y'all still falling for it to the day) he was this nice selfless hero who just wanted what's best in order to use them to pursue his goal

-Gaslight Elsa (someone who already felt guilty enough to think the best option to protect everyone was to isolate herself far away) into believibg she was the only one responsible for Anna's "death" when you forgot he locked her in a cold room to she would die faster with no help

-Attempt murder on defenseless people twice (don't argue about Elsa's powers, she was devastated on the ground and he attacked from behind)

So coquette hehe

It's not like he believed he was doing good, someone forced him to do so or he was raised to think all of this was okay. He was just S-E-L-F-I-S-H

Anyway!

If he's def gonna return. The best option wouldn't be for him to redeem as Frohana. I don't even think he deserves a redemption arc (let's stop with the freaking not-so-evil-antagonist-Zuko-wannabe trope, I'm begging).

There could be a good message for the young audience (and everyone) if the movie can make it clear that some people are genuinely bad and lose cause, like it happens in real life. Forgiving someone is for your own well-being and you shouldn't accept them back everytime. Sometimes they did so much shit, they don't deserve a second chance.

Would make sense if he was still shitty, less shitty but shitty anyway

The best redemption I can think for him would be to apologize to Anna and Elsa, maybe help them a little and then to leave them the fuck alone. So he goes on his own separate changing journey. He has alreday have enough impact on their life and the sisters are happy now. The creators should just let it go, seriously

I respect all opinions but I really don't give a damn about what other people think of it and some of you are getting on my nerves. I got this reaction, last time I said I don't like Hans and he shouldn't become a good guy (my pinned post).

Unsurprisingly, they blocked me after I explained in more details.

Whatever

Let's keep some antagonists as antagonists. Cause rather we like them or not, sometimes, some characters are straight up bad people and what's best is for them to still be bad :3

this might be controversial in the fandom so let me get something out of the way; i like hans, i like him as a character, i like his backstory and want to learn more about him and his relationship with his family and im excited to see him again BUT

i do not want to see him redeemed at all. what he did in the first movie was far beyond redeeming. it wasn't some small mischief or whatever; he literally tried to kill the queen and the princess of another kingdom and turn an entire nation against their queen. you can bring up the troll theory but i call bs. it takes away the message the writers wanted to tell the audience and ruins one of the main plot points (plus fixer upper is a silly song and the songwriters probably weren't expecting people to look too much into the lyrics)

i just think even if he shows qualities that might redeem him, the very best he can do is becoming an antihero. to see him actually being buddies with frohana would be weird to me in so many ways; but maybe that's just me.

btw this is no attack to fans who want him redeemed:)) it's just a movie and we can all have our hopes and expectations for it! nothing too deep

[ill-rip-myself-apart]

Welcome to Marnies blog!

Hello! My name is Marnie, I'm a multi-fandom writer and I'm here to bring out some of my pieces here to tumblr. I'm quite new to all of this, especially tumblrs formatting so forgive me if some of my shit looks unorganized or messy 😭. Down below I'll be talking about my rules, do and don'ts for writing and the fandoms I'm in. Also I'll probably link my wattpad too since it's much neater there right now. ANYWAYS

Rules

Don't be pushy or impatient, atm requests are closed but I plan on opening them soon. Please don't rush me to finish them right away. I try to take my time with my craft, especially if it's meant for someone else, so my work may take some time. Again I apologize but it's simply how I am.

Request something realistic, don't make insane requests that don't fit in with the canon at all or overly detailed readers. I want everyone to be able to enjoy my work.

When requesting or asking, send in the basics. Whether or not you want female, male, demi, non-binary, etc reader or POC reader, you get the point. Also be sure to state what kind of fic you'd like. I'll be doing head cannons, one shots, song fics and drabbles. Automatically my x readers are usually race and gender neutral but as I said, if you'd like a specific kind of reader, Tell me!

Don't be disrespectful or anyway mean. I'll simply ignore your ask and block you. I shouldn't have to say this but seriously, just don't be a fucking dick.

Please accept I may not want to write a certain request, I try to be nice as possible and if I feel like I can't properly write a certain request or don't feel comfortable, I will personally let you but please don't be mad at me or throw insults at my face.

I'd prefer people 16 and older on my page, considering I write some really dark stuff along with NSFW and more mature fandoms I'd prefer to keep my audience child free. It doesn't feel right when a 13 year old reads your super dark fics and shit 😭 like please go finish your pre algebra homework.

Fandoms

Grand Theft Auto Series

Watch Dogs Series

Dead by Daylight (Mainly Legion but there's a few others I'll write for)

The Umbrella Academy (Comics and T.V. show)

The Boys (T.V. show, haven't read the comics yet 🥴)

Marvel Comics (I'm sorry but FUCK THE MOVIES, that shit is so inaccurate and filled with white washing. I hate anything Disney makes so don't even ask)

Stranger Things

Life is Strange Two (I don't like the previous ones)

Johnny The Homicidal Maniac

Infamous (1, 2 and second son. Delsin🥺👉🏻👈🏻)

Criminal Minds

One Punch Man (Saitama 🥰🥰🥰)

My Hero Academia

Naruto

Kakegurui

Haikyuu!!

The Walking Dead (T.V. show)

Z-nation

Doom Patrol (Comics and Show)

(As you can tell, I'm in quite a few fandoms😅, so I'm sure there'll be plenty to choose from)

Do's and Don'ts

what I WILL write

SFW

NSFW

Mature Topics such as abuse, gore, murder, criminal activity, mental illness, etc

X readers and OC's (occasionally I'll post my own OCs for certain fandoms)

Head cannons, one shots, imagines and drabbles

POC reader, disabled readers, any gendered reader, homosexual and heterosexual relationships, poly relationships, (I can't be the only one who wants to be in a polyship with Frank and Susie 😫) platonic readers.

Requests and Asks (so as long as their open, it'll say in my bio)

What I WON'T write

Non-con/dubcon

R*pe (If it's apart of a character or readers backstory, that's fine but the act itself is not, I refuse to write it)

S*lf harm (same as r*pe)

Animal Abuse

Pedo/Incest shit

Extremely large age gaps(I'm talking like 15-20 years)

Overly specific readers (I'm talking about the people who practically slap an entire personality and appearance on the reader, it's almost like an OC)

Pet play or DDLG/CGL/MDLG/etc

Age regression

Slave and Master relationships

Car Accidents

Racism, Homophobia, Transphobia, Xenophobia, Sexism, I mean you get the point. Basically don't be a dick or ask for dickish requests or I'll stomp your face in.

All images were in-fact edited by me, but of course the character frank morrison and his concept art belongs to the creators of dbd. But that's about it so, yeah ✌🏻🥴