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Huh, you ever have a blog asking for donation help just straight up block you before you could respond? Like damn was I taking too long for you? I get I was taking a bit trying to figure out if you were legit, but with how many scammers there are I've got to be vigilant you know
#fudge does a talky talk#if i say the user i can trust you people not to harass them right?#i only want to mention their name because I'm not sure if they're legit or not#their username was thoughtfulcrusadegoatee i dont see anyone talking about them yet#they did say they were fine with questions and aren't dishinest about being a blog only made a few hours ago#but they dont have a gofundme#instead they have a linktree called 'gofundme20' that keads to a paypal#suspicious#its under the name cecil wangila if anyone finds that info important#and their ask was the exact same thinf they had in their pinned#I'm not a scam expert maybe they coukd be a legitimate person in need to of help but why block me? why be so suspicious with your link?#why try to make it look like a gofundme without it actually being a gofundme?#maybe i should send an ask to kyra45 about this but i feel like she already gets enough people asking her about scams
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No one ever really talks about it in the fandom and it NEEDS to be discussed because it's hilarious to me. I have to ask where all the crazed spike x julia fans come from 😭 like say one thing negative about the ship or ship spike with someone else and there's this one person (who I think owns multiple spikexjulia accounts snd pretends to be different people😭😭) that starts sending their "CAnoN aNd facTuAL eviDencE" with so much hostility
I've also noticed that Julia fans either always hate Faye and/or don't give a damn about Spike's well-being and just want him paired up with Julia even if that costed him his life, which I don't even think Julia herself wanted for him to do in the end lol. It's a little disturbing
Oh trust me, this is a looong story. It's not like we don't see it, we just got tired of it. You're not alone, I give you a warm hug🫂
This user has been terrorising Bebop fandom across multiple platforms since 2022, I think. If you ever see this bitch harassing someone just flag the account or ban it. A collective appeal could do the trick, but it's gonna be like chopping off Hydra's heads. This pain in the ass keeps posting weird commissions on X (Twitter), Deviantart, Reddit, Pixiv (for Christ's sake, please DO NOT search Bebop tag on Pixiv, it's a total disaster in there right now) and edited Bebop wiki, describing Faye as Spike's no 1 enemy and Julia as a goddess of doves and roses 🤢 It's hard to track down every account, the only way to stay safe is to not interact with them and blacklist. "If I ignore it, maybe it will go away" tactics is the best in this situation, don't let them take away your time and emotions, they cannot be reasoned with.
Another thing that bothers me is that stupid localisation of guide books with SpikeJulia nonsence the translators added just because they wanted to and ruined the original idea that implies multiple ways of story perception. I've aready dispelled that "truest lover ever" myth by presenting the original texts from my collection of Japanese books. They fucked up with "love" kanji meaning in Eng and this changed a lot (I did some analysis here and here). Now we can see what happens when these love stories fall into the wrong hands: haters cite it like a Bible in each and every thread about SpikeFaye😩 Also there was a post about some Julia's love letter to Spike (wtf?) written on the back cover of the vol. 6.
I wanted to make a post about it and took pictures of a Japanese edition but forgot. Now it's the right time to dispel another myth.
According to quick translation results, this guide was made to inform fans about some Bebop episodes which weren't aired on regular TV and appeared later on WOWOW (premuim satellite broadcasting) because of censorship.
There was no mention of Julia writing letters to Spike in the original series. It was Spike who gave her a note describing rendezvous point or whatever and she tore it to pieces🤷🏼♀️
Just remember: Spike's well-being is up to the viewer. Noone can convince you otherwise if you don't want to and noone has right to insult you. Spike is for everyone 🌸
The situation is so annoying, those who loved SpikeJulia or didn't give a damn about them now hate this. If someone is going to use "SpikeJulia" as a safeword I will understand 🤣
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(Moo Deng related, sorry if you’ve been flooded with these)
Another reason why the “trust the keeper” argument isn’t a good one is… guess what… professionals can make mistakes too! Or, in this case, purposefully do harmful things.
Just because someone is a qualified, bonafide professional with degrees and years of experience doesn’t mean they will never make mistakes or do harm. I don’t want to doubt that Moo Deng’s keeper has experience, but how he handles her is just plain wrong. Professional or not, it’s not right.
And I understand the thought of “trust the keeper instead of this random tumblr blog” too. But c’mon guys, use some common sense! LOOK at how Moo Deng is handled, where she’s being kept, how she reacts. Even if you know nothing about hippos, you can pretty easily tell she’s not comfortable. Please, people, just think about it for more than a minute…
Completely agree! I have no doubt that these keepers love Moo Deng and care deeply for her. But there's just no reason to be handling her in such a heavy handed and aggressive way.
She's a nocturnal animal that should be sleeping for most of the day, not being poked and prodded and chased around.
Interestingly this article came out recently and a lot of people are also considering it to be a "debunking"
Now I certainly don't share any of that Tiktoker's sentiments about "imprisoning" zoo animals but this article did address the excessive handling concerns.
Basically they're saying that they don't interact with Moo Deng when she's eating, which is clearly not true since the animals pretty much always have food when the keepers interact with Moo Deng.
They also talk about all their conservation efforts. And yeah, that's great good on them. But it still doesn't justify how they handle her. It still boils down to "yeah but we only harass her for the entertainment of the guests a few hours a day and then she gets to sleep" and I still don't think that's an acceptable excuse.
And considering it is WAZA accredited it really should know better. https://www.waza.org/priorities/waza-code-of-ethics/animal-welfare-strategies/
This document is readily available in multiple languages and includes the following:
I would say a lot of the answers here would be no, regarding their Pygmy Hippo enclosure.
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my story about ♡being cyber bullied by the love live fandom even though i didn’t do anything♡
this has nothing to do with obey me and i doubt anyone will read this but.. who wants to know the story about how the whole love live fandom in 2017 was bullying and harassing me?? alright alright calm down everybody if you wanna know sooo badly
my account name for ig back then was dagashimanga/honokasmanjuu. i really just wanted an account to share my love live obsession with and shitpost.
if you were around back then, you remember the most famous love live confessions account on ig and all the DRAMA it came with. like so so much went down there it was hilarious. anyway, i was friends with one of the admins, her user was christmas.eli.
she was like one of my first internet friends. i live in germany and she lived in france, so sometimes we’d talk like the whole night. we were super close.
until… KAYLEE happened.
now, if you were around back then… you know who tf that is!! it was a (presumably) 10-13 year old girl who would have tons of accounts (talking 20+), all very girly and feminine, super pink, etc. she would either wanna be your friend or hate you to death, and often times when you wouldn’t become her friend or wouldn’t do the right thing, she’d hate you, stalk you, harass you, everything. blocking her didn’t work.
so, one day, i was her victim. idk how it started, but something set her off. she harassed me, texted me, created an account called honokasmanjuuu and copied my posts word for word lmao
a few days later, i took a nap and woke up to see my ig BLOWING up. what the hell happened? well, kaylee fabricated a screenshot of the worst thing you could do in the love live fandom: scam someone of their sif account. she sent it to the love live confessions account for awareness, and guess who approved and posted it? my dear christmas.eli!
my account was full of people telling me how horrible i am, how i deserve to die, etc. people found my private, real life account, commenting there, using my pictures and spreading them (mind you i was 14), telling me how ugly i am, how ugly my art is, even photoshopping me on a pig lmao
i texted christmas.eli and told her it was fake and asked her why she would do this to me instead of talking to me first. she absolutely hated me and told me to block her. my irl best friend (to this das mwuah) even tried explaining it to her but she didn’t want to hear any of it. the bullying got so bad, i deactivated any accounts i had — it was full on cyber bullying. i couldn’t listen or watch anything love live related because it was so traumatizing at the time.
i created new accounts, where one girl even texted me, and after talking to her she trusted me and felt sorry for me, before also turning on me and telling the confessions account my new user. i quickly deleted the account and started anew, without anyone except my irl friends and like 2-3 mutuals.
funny thing though: my new account actually grew quite a bit, and one day, christmas.eli followed me even. nobody knew who i really was because i kept private information at bay and started using an internet name (which, to this day!!, is ria ♡). and… i actually became her friend again, acting like i was someone else lmao.
she was close with two other girls, all three had big accounts, and one day the other two girls posted a screenshot of my account because i said something along the lines of most men only using male sa victims to minimize female sa victim awareness (which is true!). they called me a sexist who doesn’t care about male sa which is just as bad.. girl where did i say that….. anyway, i was only bullied for a day so ig it’s okay!
if you’ve read this far, wow, congrats. if you know me from back then (dagashimanga, honokasmanjuu, gakucchis and now gakuwucchis (you can follow me, but not very active)) let me know! also let me know if you bullied me too, no hard feelings unless you’re one of the three girls. because then i wish you hell on earth!
#love live#ll#lovelive#sif#llsif#love live school idol project#love live school idol festival#honoka#honoka kousaka#love live sunshine#aqours#muse#llsifas#sifas
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I just got a reblog... Not for one of my posts, but for a post I reblogged YEARS ago... I want to react to it, without calling the exact person out though, because it's not their fault... But here's the deal:
The reblog was about the situation of Sleeping Beauty and Maleficent (yes Disney's Maleficent, though it was on a post applying to Sleeping Beauty in general). And this person explained how Maleficent clearly is evil by fairy standard back "back in the days" (referring to medieval times I presume?), the "Fae" apparently had a limitation of never killing or harming children. "They could kidnap them, but not harm them", and this reblogger explained how this was a sort of moral rule all the "Fae" followed and never crossed. Which is why Maleficent was shown as "pure evil".
... Boy, do I have some news for this unfortunate person. Fairies, fair folk, fae folk, supernatural beings, however you want to call them, DID enjoy killing children on a regular basis. It's not because some specific legends claim some specific groups of entities never harmed children that it is true for ALL of European folklore (especially since Sleeping Beauty not only does not belong to the British Folklore, from which the "fair folk" come from, but is rather a mix of French and German ones since the most famous iterations that built the myth are Perrault and Grimm).
However I do say "unfortunate person" because this poor reblogger clearly has been misled. They said "If you don't trust me, just go ask X user, they'll tell you all about it". Said user is called "thenightling". Pretty infamous on Tumblr, especially on everything related to Neil Gaiman since they have been... haunting, in the most monstrous sense of the term, all Neil Gaiman related posts on Tumblr (especially Sandman which is apparently their hyper-fixation).
"thenightling" is NOT a good source of information. As in they do have some right informations, some good sources and make some good points... But they also are one of the most arrogant, obsessive, self-righteous bullies I ever saw, who randomly harasses and gets into fight with a ton of people everywhere over the slightest misunderstanding on their part. They are the kind of people who start an insane explosive rant at people making honest mistakes instead of just calmly explaining why they are wrong or where they can get better info. Plus, due to being obsessive, hyper-fixated and blind-sided in any of their rant, analysis or post, they also are prone to mass-simplification, presenting limited info as the only real thing ever, and apparently now spreading accidental misinformation...
In conclusion, this is a sort-of warning against this Tumblr user. I saw what they did in the past. I don't know if things got better now, but given people are sharing as "solid facts" some weird misconceptions about European lore using them as sources... You know. Just avoid these murky waters if you don't want to be yelled at for no reasons.
Heck I even hesitate to write this line out of fear this person is just going to come to my blog (which has been spared until now) and make a living hell out of it. It's incredibly stupid to fear such a thing, especially since they are probably never going to come across my blog, and if they ever see this post they'll probably just block me outright. But you know... It is the only real time I saw actual intellectual bullying on Tumblr. It kind of sticks in the mind, you know?
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THE LAST DAMN THING IM SAYING;
I’d also like to say and make this clear: I’m not friends with Bel and Fae anymore after what I saw posted. That connection is severed. I am still friends with Chris and will remain to be as she is a good person who also fucked up. I was apprehensive about remaining friends when the original post came out considering it was about me— including the purposely left comment by the OP also making fun of me. Which led me back into believing their lies.
I was lied to until the bitter end. I wanted to HOPE until the bitter end everything wasn’t true but I saw the screenshots. About analgate, about being inclusive, and use of slurs. Many other things under the guise of “we made up” so I wanted to trust them.
My gut feeling would switch now and then but I got caught up. I reread the entire gc convo to look at my comments. It’s disgusting to watch yourself become more hateful. That’s a really shitty part of me I worked hard to get rid of in real life through the program of AA.
Somehow I managed to convince myself gossiping and being mean wasn’t so bad online. It is just as awful because people are behind a url. I know better. Now the level of crassness and racism I did not see from them in our small groupchat, as it was being hidden. I have never sent a hate anonymous post, they claimed the same, only to find out that’s all they did and probably did the same to me. Nice.
I seriously fucked up making fun of Agnes appearance due to my dislike getting in the way of doing the next right thing. Which I’m trying to do now. Don’t harass readers or small blogs about me. They are reading about sucking and fucking, not looking into online drama.
The other fuck up I would like to clarify on my behalf. To all Germans— I made tasteless jokes about a German user not liking Fabien Frankel bc of his Jewish heritage. That’s ignorant of me. Very ignorant. Especially as I dated and loved a guy from Berlin for over a year and he even told me that’s a sore spot for them.
Now that sounds like “I have (insert) friends!!!”
But I’m following up to say I still have my OWN unresolved anger at him for our toxic relationship. So I have said “fucking Germans.” For the love of everything good and holy I DO NOT want every person in that country to blow up and die. There’s a difference between vile racism and backward comments coming from a place of hurt. I acknowledge it’s childish and nasty. I also don’t use the word n@z1, but that was clarified in the second post on who said that.
Hope this clears things up. This is the most transparent I can be. I can’t fix any of the hurt I’ve caused. Apologizing like a broken record is annoying— I know. So this is it. I’m staying up. I can only go forward, if you’d like to stay in the past, farewell. For people who are hurt take all the time you need.
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You really don't have room to talk since you'll be rude and nasty and make fun of people who haven't been rude to others, too.
Like who? Skeleton-Bat who triggered me on purpose after me giving them good faith for hours? Maybe the second time when they tried to do the same thing to Ant, a friend, and I piped up because I knew exactly what was coming and was able to confront someone who had very thoroughly outed themselves as a racist, ableist, and homophobe?
Faggot-BillCypher who was a Crit Blog like Lily once with similar accusations and their friend who were both drooling over underage incest?
LittlePibble who obsessively stalks the Lily crit sphere to hurl accusations even long after getting context that they ignore because it doesn't fit their trolling narrative?
Or Fennec who not only wildly talked out of their ass, but abused kids in his own right by taking advantage of their trust and stories as victims of multiple people? Who got kids to bully other kids for his own entertainment in his servers?
Oh, no, maybe it was Ludo who was harassing people in their inboxes for months and calling Britt a liar to the point of denying their victimhood and buddying up to a grooming piss rper, which LittlePibble also did with the same groomer, because he thinks Sai was wrong about 1 point in their opinion on Taffer, but only because they can't 100% prove it and he's their IRL friend who'll defend them anyway and admitted that.
Or the one "crit vlog" that suddenly became a vent blog after I noticed them saying dumbshit?
Hell, this isn't even all these idiots have been doing.
I haven't said shit about Starlit and their ripe for going ham on. All I've said about them is the name game is cringe and please keep in mind some of the users in Sai's server are mentally ill and will have feelings about the big brother tactic. I played a little guess who for fun, but in and out of the server I dropped it once it once it stopped being fun because nobody knew, not even Sai.
Or are you defending that freak Birdie? I don't even know what to say if thats the case.
No one I've talked about has been a sweetie pie hands clean person. I thought SKELETON BAT was and you can fucking scroll back and look at how I was handling that situation. I got bodied by trying to be vulnerable with someone I thought was to caught up in their own feelings and I'll admit that.
If you're inferring Lily is a person who doesn't insult people though that's hysterical.
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Serious: Regarding the Sanityisforlosers situation
Trigger warning: the following post discusses grooming, stalking, sexual harassment, SA, necrophilia, anorexia and generally mature topics. Please read this post at your own discretion. If the aforementioned topics upset or trigger you, I strongly advise for you not to read.
Hi, everyone.
This isn't the sort of post that I wish to be making, because I prefer keeping personal problems and things such as online drama away from this blog. After all, this is the place I go to unwind and simply fool about.
However, things have gotten so bad that it has severely affected not only myself but everybody involved. For this reason, I can no longer afford to remain quiet on the matter, primarily for Sanity's sake.
It's no secret that I am close friends with Sanityisforlosers. I acknowledge that as a result, personal biases may rear their head and this post is, in fact, primarily defending him. However, the main purpose of this post is to clear up misinformation that has primarily been spread by the people calling him out.
If anybody is familiar with the characters Julius the Dressmaker and Killian Lynch, or has written for the character in any way, they may have received anons such as the following:
All the claims made by these anonymous messengers are entirely untrue. Arguments below:
However, before I go into this I wish to state EXPLICITLY: do NOT harass any of the parties mentioned within the post. These people have already been through enough, and I strongly implore for you to leave them alone about this issue once and for all.
"Sanity is a liar, having lied about MysticalSorcery being a groomer"
Untrue. Sanity made a callout post claiming that MysticalSorcery had minors in her server. This is far from claiming that MysticalSorcery is a groomer and this claim came to be due to a grave miscommunication between himself and a user named the-catcake, causing the spread of misinformation that Sanity did not intend for. A big reason for this is that Sanity was acting irrationally and emotionally, which does not make him running his mouth right, but the fact remains that the base claim was NOT MysticalSorcery allegedly being a groomer.
By now it has been established that MysticalSorcery did not have minors in her server, and that this idea came to be due to a conversation between Sanity and a third party which he felt he could trust, IvyDarkRose.
The callout by snuffbomb-awareness claims Ivy never explicitly confirmed the presence of minors, but this screenshot clearly states otherwise. As a result, Sanity had every reason to believe that there were minors present in nsfw spaces.
He has since apologised for making this claim, and MysticalSorcery has accepted this apology.
I will continue to reinstate: Tori/MysticalSorcery is innocent. Do not harass her and bring these claims up to her again, as they now have been disproven. She has done nothing wrong.
"Sanity is a stalker."
There is no evidence of this whatsoever, and word of mouth claims should not be trusted.
"Sanity claimed to be SA'd by Jesterca, Candy Pop's creator"
What Sanity claimed was that he was sexually harassed, not sexually assaulted. Jesterca sent them an unsolicited image of a bare ass (presumably a 3D model).
To claim this is sexual harassment is by definition correct, because unsolicited nsfw imagery falls under sexual harassment. Mind you, this all happened because Sanity pointed out that the parties opposing him are openly friends with Jesterca, who has already stirred up controversy due to queerphobic views.
"Sanity lied about his friendship with Krisantyl and made her uncomfortable."
I understand that because a screenshot was provided in a callout by Tumblr user snuffbomb-awareness, it is difficult to disprove this claim, and because what I am saying is word of mouth you have every right to take this argument with a grain of salt. However, this sudden change in stance strikes me as odd, as I have personally seen exchanges held between him and Krisantyl, and the both of them engaged very amicably with each other. Of course, all I have is my word of mouth, and for this specific case you are free to make up your own mind.
Additionally, I would like to address a few more wrongfully made claims brought up in the callout by snuffbomb-awareness:
"Sanity's OCs are a bad and fetishistic representation of MLM"
This claim, in my personal opinion is one of the most outlandish. Sanity is a pansexual man. He is quite literally mlm himself. With this I would then like to ask: on what basis is the relationship between Julius the Dressmaker and Killian Lynch a fetishistic depiction of mlm? Is it because one is feminine and the other masculine? Because the more feminine of the two feels more inclined to take a sexually submissive role?
These are dynamics that very much exist in mlm relationships. If one believes that this makes for an inherently fetishistic depiction of mlm, that says more about them than the person who wrote the dynamic. I say this myself as a bisexual man (and I understand that mlm can all have different opinions).
"Sanity glamorises SA, anorexia and necrophilia through his works and OCs"
Once again a claim that upon closer inspection simply is preposterous.
Killian Lynch and Julius the Dressmaker both are characters who engage in sexual violence and necrophilia, yes. This is not a secret. However, these actions are not painted out to be a good thing and are supposed to be bad and horrify you. They are horror character, after all. A prime example of this is an extreme horror piece which Sanity posted a while back of his character, Killian.
Not only is there a disclaimer right at the top of the post, Sanity additionally triggered tagged this post appropriate.
As for anorexia, this claim also is blatantly false and even borders on being offensive, as Sanity once again not only doesn't make Julius' anorexia out to be a good thing; he has always been vocally pro-recovery as well.
Not only this, but Sanity suffers from anorexia himself and has been using his own experiences grappling with the disorder in order to write this accurately. This online debacle has caused him to relapse.
Closing Statement
Sanity is many things. He's brash, hot-headed, impulsive and an asshole. What is isn't is what these people claim he is: a liar, stalker, harasser, fetishiser of mlm.
I can agree with the notion that a lot of this could have largely been prevented if communication had run more smoothly. I do not agree with the way Sanity handled his accusations towards Tori. He was emotional and approached the situation incredibly irrationally, and no, I don't believe it was right for MysticalSorcery to be compared to SnuffBomb.
You would think that because Sanity has publicly apologised and this was accepted, that people would stop spreading misinformation now, but within just a day of the apology being issued this has only worsened. It is for this reason that I am writing this post. Please let it rest now. Tori wants no more of this. Sanity wants no more of this.
Whoever the anon may be who has been spamming the inboxes of Julius fans, stop. You have stressed people out and you are not behaving productively.
This post may be edited to add additional evidence. Additionally, I would appreciate for people to spread this through reblogging. I simply wish for the truth to be brought to light.
#serious#not a request#long post#slenderman#jeff the killer#marble hornets#creepypasta#julius the dressmaker#killian lynch#jason the toymaker#I'm sorry for tagging it like this. however the callout was tagged this way too and I need this to have reach
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indeed, anon. i'm sure it means a lot for LO that you're willing to lie so blatantly. 1. that user they mentioned? not one of my followers or regular users who interact with my content. if you go to their blog, literally the only one that reblogued from any of us was this post. for the record, it was the post where i posted the screenshot of LO using the r-slur against her critics and Brittany commenting that LO later changed it to "crackhead".
i can't speak for the other blogs though. at least they didn't ring any bells for me. just in case it's needed too: i'm stubbornly clear about how i don't want anyone reading my blog to go interact with LO in any sort of way. the goal here is deplatforming and you can't deplatform someone if you just keep validating their platform with more social interactions. not to mention that anything you say to her is just more for her victim narrative. 2. one reblog post. zero likes. the rest of their interaction are miscelanious posts that have nothing to do with either LO or our blogs. is that what "regularly interact with" means now? but even if they did "regularly" interacted with any of us... again, we're all pretty adamant about not harassing or bothering LO because it'll always be useless. so clearly this person is not listening to us either and went out of their way to go against what we try to do. i'm not happy about this person going off on LO like they did either. 3. let me get this straight. when we say that some anons write the exact same as LO does and we can recognize the tone, or it's just pathetically obvious in some other way, that's us building conspiracy theories because we can't accept that someone might actually like LO. those two things have nothing to do with each other in the first place, LO is capable of using sockpuppet accounts and also there being people who for some reason think they like her, those are not mutually exclusive, but that's what LO has said before. but when this unconfirmed anon that nobody know who they are say that they recognize the writing style of some of the anon messages we get with this other random tumblr user who only wrote something by themselves once, oh, now that's a valid thought process. to clarify, they might be right for all i know. i have no clue. i just know that this user went against LO in the most unnecessary way possible and it did nothing but anyone, so i hope at least it was worth it for them because certainly it wasn't for us. they might have also send us some anons for all i care. i just question the double standard here. when we do it, it's a conspiracy. when other people to it to defend LO, no, that's just being a smart person who just notices this kind of things. 4. "showing people 5+ instances of you being directly contacted by the blog"... what is this even talking about? what other 5+ instances are they refering to? i only just found out about this one user going on their own. this one user i might have seen once in my activity notifications and never again. where are those other blogs who are part of this side of tumblr doing this? 5. "everything going on with Poppy last month has also been very helpful." i'm so glad, anon, that you're able to be so honest and say that you're glad that Poppy violated the consent of a survivor of CSA to the point that she destroyed his trust. i almost respect that. or do you mean the multiple allegations of abuse against her that have nothing to do with us or LO? the ones that LO has majorly ignored? while treating Poppy like a potential victim only after she put the testimony of Courtney behind a paywall? truly, i'm fascinated with how you see a sex pest harming people, using them and discarding them as "helpful" to keep the good reputation of your favorite youtuber. indeed, the sign of a well adjusted and moral person with their priorities in the right places. thank god that all those people were negatively affected by Poppy so it could serve you to keep protecting a proven groomer. i bet all those victims will be delighted to know that their experiences were useful for you. but really, what i can expect from a fan of the woman who has said more victim blaming things that are more aboherrent than that? you two truly deserve each other.
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It's YOUR Fault if You Give Up Art...
Does anyone else feel like it’s more on an artist than anyone else if they gave up because of insults/harassment/etc? No, I obviously do not condone such behavior… I mean, you need to take time out of your day to write scathing messages and do other things to pick on someone, just because, “Wahhh, I don’t like the thing they made”? Honestly pretty spoiled, if you ask me: having to discourage and “punish” someone for making content that doesn’t appeal to your personal level of “quality,” like nothing is allowed to be done nor exist in this world when not to your exact liking.
I mean, I’d personally prefer to witness artwork/etc I find terrible, rather than witness a terrible tragedy unfold before my eyes… Man, how many people forced to, say, experience America’s mass shootings would’ve preferred to see poor drawings/animations/etc, than seeing friends and family get gunned down instead? Apologies for the extreme example of “there being worse things to witness and better warrant outrage,” but sometimes ya gotta get intense to make a point when claiming some social media users as “spoiled” and all.
Anyhow, back to the artists/etc themselves… People are saying what you make is “bad,” they’re not threatening to track you down and kill your entire family if you continue. … Okay, yeah, there’s the rarer cases of doxxing and what have you, but that’s a different story because you are being made to stop for the sake of your safety and those you care about. I’m talking about cases where it’s just insults, bullying and nothing actually threatening to your well-being. It’s a tough pill to swallow, but not everyone is gonna be the nicest about what you have to show. Trust me, I’d know: I’ve had multiple people on a discussion board point out how terrible my pilot of my first animated series was, I’ve had comments insulting my work getting thumbs-up (ex: “Tell me why anyone would like this…”), I’ve had a user by the name “I Fave Bad Art” do so on Deviantart before… But did I ever give up, despite that and more? All in all, I’ve seen my fair share of people going out of their way to ensure that I knew I only made crap.
I’ll admit, I ironically hate the, “I was in the same boat and I didn’t do what they did” argument: it completely nullifies the concept of searching for even the slightest difference and just blatantly spouting, “It’s not an excuse!” when we should instead be asking, “What made them turn out different and how can we avoid it repeating?” But still, I think I have a right to say this time: “If I didn’t give up and kept creating things, no matter how mean people got, what’s making you do different?” I get you’re more sensitive about things when you’re a young teen or older one, as that was when I experienced these things, but are you really going to give up on your artistic and creative dreams entirely…? If that’s the case, you honestly never deserved the “artist” title to begin with. After all, it sounds to me like you really wanted gratification and praise more than to actually bring your dreams to life.
You got the keyword of, “entirely,” right? As in, not taking a break to recover and rebuild confidence, but never creating anything ever again-- drawings, stories, etc --right? If you got your heart broken as a young teenager and tried again as a more capable adult, you definitely still deserve to be considered a true artist. It’s when you decide to never do it again that you don’t, as in never again and up to when you finally die. After all, why are you letting these people decide whether or not you can create things: just because they don’t like it? Okay, then find a way to improve and make something that can be more appealing if you need others to like it so badly. “Negative criticism” is a real thing, and people aren’t always going to be so nice about pointing out how you can improve-- nor will they care if you want it or not.
Case in point, I want to one day make original series that can appeal to a wide audience. You think I’d be able to do that if I still drew in the lesser quality I did as a teen or if I still had the worse writing quality I did back then? No, I needed to learn-- and still am --how to provide enough quality to not only create something others enjoy, but also be the best possible way to bring a vision to life. Not gonna happen if I don’t pull a “Scott Cawthon” and open myself up to what aspects might suck about my work… I mean, I want to make something I’d like and be proud to know I made, too! Like, I finally managed a drawing style that I like and wanna keep doing: that hybrid look of Western (American) and Eastern (Japanese) animation! Even if not many people do end up appreciating it, I can still feel happy I draw in a way that makes me like what I bring into the world. Plus, there’s something just generally satisfying to me about making my ideas reality and simply sharing them, anyhow.
Overall, stop crying, “Boo hoo, I don’t wanna do art/etc anymore because everyone’s so mean about it…” Instead, focus less on your hurt feelings and on continuing your journey. Back to Scott Cawthon: do you think Five Nights at Freddy’s would have ever gotten made if he gave up game-making because of how badly Chipper & Son’s was chastised? I know a friend over in Canada who also learned to draw better than “simple MS Paint shapes” and whatnot, after years… And let’s just say that she’s familiar with insults and even accusations of being “underaged” for Deviantart because of how bad her drawings admittedly were back then (her “being” under 13). Don’t worry, I’m only brutally honest because she’d be fine with admitting they weren’t of the highest quality.
So, just block people who get too spam-happy, find ways to tune out those who mock you-- and if someone actually is trying to doxx you or something over what you make, get the police involved. Even if they just threaten it, you have every right to still make a report because that’s a serious crime…
But typically, at the end of the day, it’s you who decides if you continue with art, so what’re you going to choose?
#tough pills to swallow#harsh life lessons#learning to never give up#life advice#advice for artists#controversial takes
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MHA Meta: Negative with the Public in Disasters & Early PTSD in First Responders
Ok, so MHA really nails this one in a way that most shows do not! When you work in disaster situations, you will see humanity at its best and at its worst! On the news, you will mostly see feel good stories, but yeah stressful situations bring out the bad in people. And that’s traumatizing to witness.
Some real life examples of common occurrences:
Harassment, Threats, & Violence Against Responders and Volunteers by angry public or conspiracy theorists
People deliberately abandoning their children or elderly relatives at disaster shelters
People attempting to steal purebred or particularly cute dogs from disaster pet shelters by falsely claiming ownership
Media and random civilians trying to sneak photos of injured, sick, or deceased persons
In my experience, witnessing horrible behavior is more traumatizing than what you would expect to witness on the job. You are trained with how to cope with injury/illness/death. Not so much the general horrors of humanity.
It’s a very bizarre experience to be treated as a ‘hero’ in one respect while also being treated very poorly by the public that you are meant to be helping. You take a lot of the brunt of anger over problems caused at an institutional level way above your head.
A LOT of us (including me) experienced death threats and threats of violence to our faces doing COVID work. As well as straight up belligerence.
My trauma therapist used to work with combat vets and would say that her pandemic responder patients reminded her heavily of her work with Vietnam veterans. Because the trauma was chronic and focused heavily on ‘I’ve seen what humanity is capable of and it’s horrifying.’
People dying of the virus was not the main trauma, it was how the public reacted around it.
So the trash throwing scenes hit me right in the stomach.
And if you wanted the perfect visual metaphor of what this feels like, it’s this:
To see Deku who is carrying the entire burden. Overworked and exhausted. Being pulled apart in a million different directions by a mob.
And he is losing parts of himself to the work he is doing. I mean the apathy and horror in his eyes says it all.
Deku is displaying very early signs of PTSD: self-isolation, pushing others away, refusing to rest, overwork, refusing to talk about his experiences (avoidance)
AND the belief that you cannot share the burden with others because it is too heavy/dark/traumatizing.
Now let’s talk about All Might and what he unconsciously taught Deku. All Might is a singular symbol of peace, but this is achieved through extreme overwork, keeping secrets to himself, not trusting or confiding in others, and even working through near fatal injuries.
Opposed to that, we get this new narrative- that nothing can be accomplished alone. Deku has to rely on both the former users and his loved ones/colleagues. It’s not sustainable or healthy to bear all the burden alone. This is what Nighteye kept trying to warn All Might about.
And he finally realizes it with the heartbreaking bento scene.
But the recurring beauty of MHA is its appeal for two things: Empathy and Connection.
We get the reunion of class 1A. This forces Deku to share the burden of his experiences with peers, to rest physically, and to receive support.
And Uraraka pleads with the public for empathy; a reminder that heroes are human. And to please treat them with humanity.
So Horikoshi’s message is kind of two-fold: Trauma is a burden that can’t be endured alone AND the solution to society’s problems is empathy for others.
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Thank you so much for such a detailed and well reasoned reply! That makes me feel a lot more educated on the subject. Out of curiosity, since ao3’s popularity and ubiquity seems to have bred its insularity and lack of accountability, what do you think they would have to do, promise, or change to become more credible again, or to excise this issue? (While preserving their mission, as AO3 is not a moderated site like SWG). Because I do like their mission statement, and some of their operations seem transparent, but as you said, the zero commentary and progress (outside coding) for three years is ridiculous. And if this is outside the realm of something you can or want to answer, that’s okay! No sweat.
It's really hard to say, to be honest! I'm not very familiar* with how the OTW runs (aside from knowing that it is a registered nonprofit in the U.S. and therefore follows the law where that is concerned), and really, I think the question of what needs to be done to regain credibility is really up to individual users/fans to decide. Like the AI thing? Kind of eye-rolly as indicative of dysfunction because of the lack of communication within the upper echelons of the organization and the inability to quickly get about even a basic reassurance that AI scrapers were blocked. Probably not something I'm going to leave over, though. But End OTW Racism? Especially if I was a fan impacted by racist harassment who felt the site had been made off-limits to me as a result?? Every day of silence would make it hard for them to win back my trust, I'd imagine. I wasn't even involved in the protest but find myself pissed, as we approach a week with no response after the protest ended, by the complete lack of response.
* Though it seems that not many people are familiar with how the OTW runs. I recently read this post, which does go into organization-level changes (and Chestnut is in a much better place to speak on this topic than me), which also has a number of comments from OTW volunteers along the lines of, "Well, I was a volunteer for x years but I'm not 100% sure how this is handled in the org." Which is interesting to me that even long-term volunteers--some of whom were quite high in the hierarchy!--lacked that big picture understanding.
The [lack of] communication piece seems quite big to me. In my experience, that torpedoes an organization quite quickly. In my work running the SWG but also as a teacher-leader (someone who takes on leadership roles in my school and district while remaining in the classroom), I have found that better communication always makes things better. Even just saying, "Hey, I know this is a thing. I'm working on it," makes a difference. My experience is that people tend to be pretty understanding. It's the radio silence that is hard to handle. People feel unseen and unheard. Like right now ... there was just a massive antiracist protest against the OTW and still there is nothing on their news page about their promises three years ago, much less a response to that movement. How can that be?? It's hard not to hear in that, "We don't care." It's hard not to see the lack of response as the response.
I wonder too to what extent this dysfunction is going to be endemic in an organization of this size that is run almost entirely by volunteers. Over the weekend, in writing this post about the SWG archive, I realized that we recently reached 5,000 fanworks. Then while checking the OTW news page to see if there were any updates on antiracist actions going forward, I saw that AO3 recently hit 11 million fanworks. 11 MILLION. I know what goes into an archive of 5,000 fanworks and cannot imagine scaling up more than 2,000 times that on volunteer power alone. I also know that the most difficult and time-consuming work the SWG mods do is moderating our Discord server (which is, again, relatively small and friendly!), and while I don't agree with the argument that "AO3 is no longer an archive but a social site and should be moderated accordingly" (i.e., throw out their ideals around serving as a universal archive), I do wonder if we, as fans, need to accept that a site of that size will not be able to do an adequate job of even the limited moderation they do and socialize/interact elsewhere. Which again takes us back to a "small internet" with sites and groups that function as communities and can be moderated by members of those communities. If people want that, let's do it! Let's build those places again. But as I said in my last post, that task isn't on the OTW/AO3, it is on us.
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Lmao I'm the anon from before and I don't even know socialorganism. You probably won't believe that but lol whatever. They have more of a logical point on their blog than you do though anyway. Your post from a while back about the glasses thing showed up on my "for you" page. Ive never interacted with you before and I'm on anon because I've seen people get dogpiled and accused of "violence" for just passively disagreeing with someone in the cripplepunk tag. Don't worry though, I'm blocking you after this. I don't want your poorly informed bs opinions on my dash anymore.
I thought your reasoning didn't make sense, because glasses still fit the definitions you're giving. Your definition given also just outright excludes ambulatory mobility aid users because they can't still "move" without the aids. I actually know people IRL who call their glasses mobility aids and my question was motivated by that, yet these people don't exist in your world? Im sorry it's just really weird.
You also can't just say they aren't mobility aids if you don't use them or need them that way. It doesn't really back up your point. My friends who call them that cant move without them. It's like saying, "a cane isn't a mobility aid because you can limp without it! I can limp without my cane so that means all people can! You don't NEED it to move!" like that sounds ridiculous. That's what you're saying about glasses. That's what you sound like.
The people disagreeing with you are physically disabled, so it doesn't make sense that you think a word is being "taken" from physically disabled people by other physically disabled people to discribe something they have an experience with.
Like I'm sorry but I'm gonna trust my friend saying their glasses are just as much of a mobility aid as their rollator. If I listen to you, I ignore the way they talk about their needs, and making them change a word they use to discribe something is hard because they have autism. Who stands to be hurt more by that? It's more like you're taking it from the people who need their glasses to be respected and thought of as mobility aids because you're the one saying "you can't say this". the only one thinking it changes the definition is you. Your response to my message didn't make literally any sense.
You are genuinely such a loser. It's so obvious that you're the same person, I already saw you comment using this same alt account that you made just to continue a stupid argument that I want no part in.
Get something better to do than harassing brain damaged cripples with paralytic disorders and epilepsy. I already told you that I physically cannot handle much stress right now and you are endangering me. I'm gonna report you to Tumblr for block evasion and harassment anyway so have fun with that
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was surfing the wooooorld wiiiide weeeeebbbbb and i think i found the posts you saw that got you nervous about ao3. rest assured, i wouldn't worry about them. while their intentions are good, a lot of them are made by self-proclaimed hatebloggers that create discourse for fun and i would not trust. in good faith.
uhhhh i typed up a post on this but then i realized i was too coward to post it so. i am SO sorry for what i am about to paste here.
"i recently realized that the recent ao3 donation drive marked the return of a whole bunch of discourse. i usually wouldn't say anything about it, especially since this has been a thing for years, but i noticed that one of my mutuals was confused about the subject and thus decided to type up a little something, especially since a few of the people i've seen saying ao3 should die are hyper-purist hatebloggers that create discourse for fun and harass genuinely confused anons that come their way.
you are not a bad person for having an ao3 account or supporting ao3. for starters, nobody is making any money off you simply reading or posting fic.
as for donations, they're relatively public about what they do with the money they earn, and it's not going to anything particularly bad. there's always the possibility that you don't personally agree with them making a donation drive right now or don't want to support their policies, which is fair. you can always choose not to donate. that doesn't mean you should harass people who did donate to this mostly inoffensive thing, or worse, people that didn't even donate and simply enjoy reading/writing fanfiction on the site.
yeah, there's a bunch of really nasty stuff on there that probably shouldn't be. it's really bad. but i don't think moderation is as easy as you're making it out to be. for starters, do you realize how incredibly small the team moderating this site is? how overwhelmed these incredibly puny servers would be by something like this? and that's not even addressing the fact that morality in fiction is completely subjective. i personally have things i consider right and wrong, but my "right and wrong" probably differ from yours. reaching a consensus on what is "right and wrong" on ao3 is basically impossible, even with what the most fervent of ao3 haters envision as "perfect" moderation. that's not to say that something shouldn't be done about the genuine moderation problems the site has, but this simply isn't it. it's ok not to agree with some of the things the site does and it's ok to hate some of the works on it. but it's not great to claim that people who support ao3 are horrible and automatically support horrible content."
Hey thanks for this! /pos
I don't know why people are so keen on creating problems. It's one thing to warn others about unsavory material (and to discourage users from engaging with it), but it's a whole other thing to throw the baby out with the bathwater and say the site, as well as every user on it, is problematic. Moral crusades are NOT the answer. Also I didn't think that there was anything inherently bad with Ao3, which is why it confused me so much. I just thought it was a cool place to post fanfics tbh. Glad to see it's not something to worry about!
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Discuss DABewarehub's post about my worst list. This will be know that nick rejected my ban appeal on deviantart
"Lets discuss this shall we?. FIrst things first - There is ZERO evidence of ANY claims made towards these users, no archives, no screenshots, no links to PROVE the accusations for this post. At this point this is harassment and Libel."
-@dabewarehub You did zero evidence out of me first, You have no zero proof that i broke the dA rules, Second, There is no proof that i broke the dA rules. You are such a fucking liar and blaiming me for no reason. You have no any claims to be me and trying to frame me, If you thinks that this is a zero evidence out of you, Its gonna be a fucking real moron. Prove it, I already roast your post.
"Now, Onto the post at hand - Lets review some of these users you've mentioned."
-Go ahead asshole, Do it! And i will keep continue to roast your post because you trying to frame me or my tumblr account.
"First - Adrielferrer's Archive - Just to help you out. Harassement = These we can agree on. Judging by their posts they are known to create posts that are problematic and refuses to let shit die. We also agree that the post where they said they deleted everything bout you and yet has still been up is considered harassment. So (claps) congrats. We agree on something."
-You think this would help? Hell no, Adriel would lying to me if he trying to help me, And he doesn't fucking trust me since 2023 when ilia force me to ignore daniel when i got blocked by him, And you see when i trying to appeal my ban? Nick rejected my ban appeal because of her and her friends, Or maybe it was you because you are the one who got my deviantart account banned, I have right to created my dA career without you and your friends so they can blocked me on dA, Not reporting me. And luckly you will never get my tumblr account banned because you trying to report me on tumblr. So what are you gonna do? A frame me for no reason? How about i should discuss your post or any others people that i hate.
"Manipulator = Not sure about this one. They do seem to have that quality when it comes to their posts. Kinda gaslighting and guilt tripping. talking about how users "betray" them cause those users don't agree with their actions. It does seem that way. So again We agree"
Have you seen a wiki about manipulator like kim il sung has? Kim il sung has brainwashed people who started to invaded south korea, And it was came out from korean war when i wasn't born in 1950s, And i disagreed with your bullshit post because of your post you made. Why don't you deal with it or any others girls you don't like? Other girls on deviantart was surely harassment by evie when she got a exposed, This would be a real evidence of her since they archive her post, And i will also archive your post so this will be a REAL evidence of you.
"Sorry, What? You do realize there has only been 1 (ONE) Adolf Hitler in history. So are you saying that Adriel is acting like Hitler and is worse then Evie? If so, please correct your grammar. (Hitler only had those who were WHITE, blonde hair and blue eyes around him. He committed Mass murder because of his own predjuice against his OWN ROOTS. Adriel hasn't committed Murder that we know of and doesn't go around calling people racist names)."
-Yeah yeah yeah whatever you say, I pretty sure i would have a correct my grammar because i trying to fix my grammar. And yes, He is acting like hitler and worse than evie. He is a gaslighter and i shouldn't let people see his status update, If i let people then. Then they will get brainwashed, I know adriel didn't committed mass murder when hitler did this during a WW2, If he did. Then will go to jail, This would have a prison in spanish because i haven't travel to madrid before.
"It's not really forcing. Granted their posts are DEMANDING but there's no force to it. People have the right to refuse and say no, HOWEVER we have noticed that if you refuse their demand you are apparently a "traitor" to them. (eye roll)"
-Yes it does forcing, I don't know he threated people to block me on YT because he is a traitor like you who likes to block people. And i have the right to refuse to leave him alone because i can't let them attack my social media account. And you are a traitor who likes to attack minor.
"We will agree in some cases we did see uncalled for actions/words towards other users, but haven't really seen cyberbullying. Please show proof of your claims."
-I will, But soon. And if you wanna trying to roast me, You can't. And there is nothing to deal about it. And if you want me to deal with adriel, I can't. I have right to stop him because i have to keep posting my community tab.
"OH NO. blocking someone is now apparently a crime in your eyes. You do know that you just legit DEMANDED us to block your new username on dA (even though we don't know what it is YET!!!) and you are bitching and moaning because Adriel is using memes and blocking this princess person? (shakes head). First: Meme's are created by anyone. Even you create them and haven't seen you give credit to the ORIGINAL people you stoled from so.. that's moot. As for blocking Princess - they have that right. Just like you have the right to block us or block Adriel"
-Cut the bullshit about the words such as "Oh No", "Have a nice day", And etc. And how does blocking someone apparently a crime in my eyes when it has no proof? It isn't a fucking crime because the news didn't see it, You do know that you just also legit DEMANDED us to report my social media account, Such as twitter, youtube, instagram, tumblr, deviantart, and etc. And you are bitch too and i ain't moaning. And i already reply at her to cheer her up, Adriel only cares about his fans. And there is no way i am moaning because moaning is from NSFW or any adults people can do, Not minors. Because minors cannot moaning. And i don't stealing a people's memes because it's not mine. Just like you have the right to deal with someone and not to report innocent people on dA.
"Really? Really? Yelling is an "evil" trait to you? Jeez. We'd hate to hear/read about what you think of your parents when they yell or ground you for your behavior. And if you don't like "strong language" why do you cuss? hmm?"
-Prove it, Asshole, I can say the strong language because i do. And there is no ways to stop my career, Also leave my parents and my family alone. They didn't anything wrong to me and they don't ground me because i am from slovakia. And i am not from USA like you.
"We believe you meant "becoming" and also, how is she "dangerous". She hasn't killed anybody, She hasn't commited any felonies. So in what way is she dangerous? Are you referring that she's dangerous to your precious "Deviantart Career"? (btw. a career is something you get PAID for. Last time we checked, you didn't have any subs, not sure if you got commissions, but don't think you earned an actual LIVING off of your 'dA career'. Seriously.)"
-So what? I still don't care if she hasn't commited any felonies or killed anybody, So in what way is she dangerous? A causing innocent people to get banned from deviantart, "Are you referring that she's dangerous to your precious "Deviantart Career"?" Yes, She is a fucking dangerous woman because she likes to report innocent people. And you think i didn't any subs because i have a youtube? Oh yes i have any subs and my subscribers is gonna be reach 10K. The self-proclaimed masters of demands without force. It's like being hit with a velvet hammer – sure, they're not holding a gun to your head, but the pressure is unmistakable.
"There's a fine fine line between being blunt - trolling and cyberbullying. She hasn't actually cyberbullied anyone and any of the users she's called out are actually known to be toxic people who are the TRUE cyberbullies and harassers."
-The self-appointed judge and jury of the internet, here to enlighten us on the fine art of cyberbullying. Apparently, in their world, there's a 'fine fine line' between being blunt and trolling, and, well, full-blown cyberbullying. How noble of them to enlighten us mere mortals!But fear not, dear sucker, for you is here to set the record straight. They haven't actually cyberbullied anyone – oh no, perish the thought! Instead, they've taken it upon themselves to call out those 'toxic' individuals who are the real cyberbullies and harassers. How convenient! It's like the classic tale of the pot calling the kettle black, but with a twist of self-righteousness. Because in dabewarehub's universe, they're not just pointing fingers; they're shining beacons of truth and virtue in a sea of darkness. Bravo, dabewarehub, for showing us all the true meaning of hypocrisy wrapped in a thin veil of righteousness! And i hope you step on a lego.
"In what way? Seriously. You need to give evidence of your claims. The only time she comments about the users she has issues with if they do it first. Maybe if you all just left her the fuck alone. none of you would be mentioned."
-People cannot left her alone because she is evil, the paragon of innocence in the face of accusations. "mentioned?" they inquire innocently, as if they've never wielded their keyboard like a weapon before. "In what way?" they feign ignorance, conveniently forgetting their own digital footprints of aggression. But fear not, if you would do, Then you gonna trying accused with quick to provide a solution: evidence. Yes, evidence! Because apparently, in their world, allegations are merely hot air unless backed by concrete proof.And oh, the irony! You insists they only comment on users who provoke them first, as if they're merely innocent bystanders pushed to the brink. But perhaps, just perhaps, if they didn't dive headfirst into every online scuffle like a bull in a china shop, they wouldn't find themselves in these precarious situations. So, to all those who dare cross paths with you, take heed: if you simply left them alone, perhaps you wouldn't be subjected to their digital wrath. But where's the fun in that, when there's a perfectly good soapbox to stand on and fingers itching to type out another righteous rebuttal?
"What fucking power? being a senior member only gives you a cute little badge, access to a forum in community and a discord server. She doesn't work for dA and even if she did she'd have a good sense of doing research FIRST before jumping the gun and playing the blame game like some other users do (looks at you)"
-You don't know how to became a sussy baka power like her, If she gave me a badge, Then why the fuck did she reported me? Or maybe it was you because i already know you get caught. the humble denier of power, the self-proclaimed underdog fighting against the tyranny of... well, their own imagination, apparently. "Abusing her power?" they scoff incredulously, as if the mere notion were as laughable as a clown riding a unicycle. But let's break it down, shall we? Being a senior member might only grant them a 'cute little badge' and access to a forum and a Discord server, but oh, what power they wield within those digital realms! It's like a miniature kingdom where they reign supreme, dispensing justice and righteousness with a mere keystroke. And let's not forget their claim to not working for dA – because clearly, that absolves them of any responsibility, right? Never mind the influence they hold within the community, the sway they carry with their words. No, no, You just wanna keep going and during a harmless bystander, innocently observing the chaos they sow. But fear not, dear sussy baka, for you is here to remind us all of their impeccable sense of research, their unwavering dedication to truth and justice. Because, you see, they're not like those other users who play the blame game without a second thought. Oh no, they're far too noble for such frivolous antics. So, to all those who dare accuse you of abusing their power, take heed: for in their eyes, they are but humble peasants, basking in the glow of their own self-righteousness. And woe unto those who dare challenge their reign – for they shall be met with a swift and merciless roast.
"You just listed everyone. EVERYONE can be a threat when it comes to reporting. She reports ban evaders, block evaders and coppa violations. If you all don't like to be reported, don't break dA rules. It's really REALLY that simple."
-You should only stop framed me about breaking dA rules because it's fucking annoying, And i don't fucking breaking dA rules for millions times i have to fucking say that. The ever-vigilant guardian of dA's rules, wielding the mighty sword of... wait for it... REPORTING! "Report threat?" they sneer, as if the mere act of reporting were akin to summoning an army of digital demons to wreak havoc upon the unsuspecting masses. But let's not be fooled by their righteous indignation, for beneath that facade lies a simple truth: You is the judge, jury, and executioner of dA's digital domain. They report ban evaders, block evaders, and COPPA violations with the fervor of a medieval inquisitor, hunting down heretics in the darkest corners of the internet. And oh, how they love to remind us all of the simplicity of their noble quest: if you don't want to be reported, simply don't break dA's rules. It's as easy as pie, or so they claim. But beware, dear sussy baka, for in your world, the line between righteous justice and vengeful retribution is as thin as a pixel on a screen. So, to all those who dare question dabewarehub's authority, take heed: for they are the gatekeepers of dA's sacred laws, the defenders of digital decency. And woe unto those who dare cross them – for they shall be met with the swift and merciless wrath of the REPORT BUTTON!
"It's funny that you mention this cause you are also guilty of this but we would love to see your proof of these things"
-You are gonna get guilty, not me, And are you fucking gay if you say love? Prove it you are gay. The master of deflection and denial, expertly wielding the weapons of gaslighting, manipulation, and... lying? "It's funny that you mention this," they declare with a smirk, as if the very accusations levied against them were nothing more than a jest. But fear not, Dear sussy baka, For you is quick to turn the tables, casting doubt upon the very credibility of their accuser. "We would love to see your proof," they declare with mock sincerity, as if the burden of evidence lay solely upon the shoulders of their detractors. But let's not be fooled by their feigned innocence, for beneath that facade lies a cunning strategist, adept at twisting words and distorting reality to suit their own narrative. Gaslighting? Manipulation? Lying? Oh no, not dabewarehub – they're simply innocent bystanders caught in the crossfire of someone else's vendetta. So, to all those who dare accuse you of such heinous crimes, take heed: for they are the masters of misdirection, the architects of ambiguity. And woe unto those who dare challenge their version of the truth – for they shall be met with the cold, hard reality of their gaslit world.
"Please show proof of this. You're getting your information for those who have "beef" with her, they aren't really a "reliable source" and again, you've done the same things. Still have screenshots of the emails you sent to Ilia, Evie has hers. Should we include those?"
-I said this will be soon until i get then, I cares about my information but for you, You can't. The accuser turned defender, boldly challenging the accusations of blackmailing and fake allegations. "Please show proof of this," they demand with a smirk, as if the burden of evidence were not a two-way street but a one-way cul-de-sac conveniently leading away from their doorstep. But let's not be fooled by their theatrical bravado, for beneath that facade lies a tangled web of deceit and manipulation. "You're getting your information from those who have 'beef' with her," they scoff, dismissing the credibility of their detractors with a wave of their digital hand. And oh, the irony! Dabewarehub dares to cast doubt upon the reliability of their sources, all the while clutching onto their own arsenal of damning evidence like a shield against the onslaught of truth. "Still have screenshots of the emails you sent to Ilia, Evie has hers," they boast, as if the mere threat of exposure were enough to silence their critics. But beware, dear sussy baka, for in yours world, the truth is a malleable commodity, to be shaped and molded to fit their own agenda. Blackmailing? Fake allegations? Oh no, not dabewarehub – they're simply the innocent victims of a vast conspiracy orchestrated by their enemies. So, to all those who dare accuse you of such nefarious deeds, take heed: for they are the masters of manipulation, the architects of deception. And woe unto those who dare challenge their version of reality – for they shall be met with the full force of their vindictive wrath.
"Are you talking about her NSFW? if so, she's an adult. If you don't want to see nsfw turn your mature filter on. She has every RIGHT to draw what she wants. Just like you have every right to "Draw" whatever you want."
-Are you sure? I don't know this would be work because i am talking about a disturbing pictures such as gore, violence, and etc. The defender of artistic freedom, boldly brushing off accusations of disturbing pictures with a nonchalant wave of their keyboard. "Are you talking about her NSFW?" they inquire, as if the mere mention of adult content were enough to absolve all sins. But let's not be fooled by their flippant dismissal, for beneath that facade lies a thinly veiled attempt to deflect criticism. "She's an adult," they declare, as if age were a shield against moral scrutiny. "If you don't want to see NSFW, turn your mature filter on," they suggest, conveniently ignoring the fact that not all disturbing content can be filtered out with a simple click. And oh, the hypocrisy! You champions the right to draw whatever one pleases, as if artistic freedom were a carte blanche to unleash a torrent of disturbing imagery upon unsuspecting viewers. "Just like you have every right to 'draw' whatever you want," they proclaim, as if there were no difference between creative expression and outright grotesquery. But beware, dear sussy baka, for in yours world, the line between art and obscenity is as blurred as a pixelated image on a computer screen. Disturbing pictures? Oh no, not dabewarehub – they're simply the defenders of artistic autonomy, bravely fighting against the tyranny of censorship. So, to all those who dare question dabewarehub's taste in art, take heed: for they are the arbiters of aesthetic excellence, the guardians of creative liberty. And woe unto those who dare challenge their interpretation of artistic expression – for they shall be met with the full force of their indignant rebuttal.
"Proof please."
-I told you i will show you proof soon, Just waiting for few months.
"Where's your proof? She admited that she reported you up until September 14, 2023 and she has left you alone sense. Also, again just a reminder, The original owner of this dAbewarehub was actually the one who got you banned several times"
-So are you not gonna listening to me when i told you that i can show you soon? Fine then, I am gonna more write this to your post. :)
-The self-appointed prosecutor, demanding proof with the tenacity of a bulldog sinking its teeth into a bone. "Where's your proof?" they demand, as if the burden of evidence were not a shared responsibility but a one-sided game of cat and mouse. But let's not be fooled by their selective memory, for beneath that facade lies a convenient narrative designed to absolve themselves of any wrongdoing. "She admitted that she reported you," they claim triumphantly, conveniently omitting any mention of their own role in the saga. And oh, how convenient! You graciously informs us that they've left me alone since September 14, 2023, as if that erases the years of harassment and hostility that preceded it. "Just a reminder," they add with a smug grin, as if to imply that you somehow deserved the treatment you received. But beware, dear sussy baka, for in yours world, the truth is a fragile thing, easily manipulated to suit their own agenda. "The original owner of this dAbewarehub was actually the one who got you banned several times," they declare, as if to shift the blame onto a convenient scapegoat. So, to all those who dare challenge your version of reality, take heed: for they are the masters of manipulation, the architects of deceit. And woe unto those who dare question their authority – for they shall be met with the full force of their indignant rebuttal, backed by a carefully curated selection of half-truths and convenient omissions.
"It's threatened* not threated. Also, she didn't threaten to you ban you or threatened someone to ban you. She has told you repeatedly to leave her alone or she will report you for harassment."
-Sometimes i made a mistake, And yes she does threaten to ban me on deviantart, And you know i told her that i will not leave her alone because she is scumbag who forced daniel to report me, How about you ask someone to appeal my ban? Nick does not appect my ban appeal and he won't let me go, So thats why i created a another account on dA.
"Proof please, what screenshots is she faking? We were forwarded the emails you sent her and we have to say Richard. Wow. That is a lot of blackmailing, gaslighting and manipulation. Also, she primarily used archive when she called out. How can you "fake screenshot" when archive.today saves the site as it appears? Hmm?"
-If you already know i blackmail her, I don't blackmailing, Gaslighting, Manipulation, I only stop others people who cannot allowed to bullies people. And i only mailing her because i found her gmail that she has. The purveyor of truth and justice, boldly calling out accusations of fake screenshotting with all the righteous fury of a digital crusader. "Proof please," they demand, as if the mere suggestion of deception were nothing more than a fanciful tale spun by their enemies. But let's not be fooled by their theatrical indignation, for beneath that facade lies a carefully crafted narrative designed to deflect attention from their own misdeeds. "What screenshots is she faking?" they inquire innocently, conveniently ignoring the mountain of evidence that threatens to bury them alive. And oh, the audacity! You dares to insinuate that yours, dear eviejulia, are the true villain of this story, wielding the tools of blackmailing, gaslighting, and manipulation like a twisted puppet master pulling the strings of fate. "Wow. That is a lot," they declare with mock surprise, as if the contents of those forwarded emails were anything less than a digital confession. But beware, dear sussy baka, for in yours world, truth is a fluid concept, easily manipulated to suit their own agenda. "She primarily used archive when she called out," they boast, as if to imply that their methods are beyond reproach. "How can you 'fake screenshot' when archive.today saves the site as it appears?" they challenge, as if technological prowess were a shield against moral culpability. So, to all those who dare question your integrity, take heed: for they are the masters of deception, the architects of deceit. And woe unto those who dare challenge their version of reality – for they shall be met with the full force of their indignant rebuttal, backed by a carefully constructed web of half-truths and convenient omissions.
"Not a thing. Like Evie, Ilia reports coppa violations (users under the age of 13. It's illegal and the law for users who are under the age of 13 to be on deviantart. In fact most websites have that very same rule), Block evaders and ban evaders. So. How is it a "threat" when it's users who break dA rules?"
-I am not a under the age of 13 anymore, And i used to have deviantart back in 2021 when my old previous account from 2021 got hacked. And the defender of dA's digital decree, boldly dismissing accusations of report threats with all the bravado of a knight in shining armor. "Not a thing," they declare with a flourish, as if the very notion were as inconsequential as a speck of dust in the digital wind. But let's not be fooled by their righteous indignation, for beneath that facade lies a convenient reinterpretation of reality designed to absolve themselves of any wrongdoing. "Like Evie, Ilia reports COPPA violations," they proclaim proudly, conveniently omitting any mention of their own role in the digital witch hunt. And oh, the hypocrisy! You champions the noble cause of enforcing dA's rules, all the while conveniently ignoring the collateral damage left in their wake. "It's illegal," they declare with a sense of moral superiority, as if the ends justify the means in their quest for digital justice. But beware, dear sussy baka, for in yours world, the rule of law is a flexible concept, easily bent to suit their own agenda. "How is it a 'threat' when it's users who break dA rules?" they challenge, as if the mere act of enforcing those rules were beyond reproach. So, to all those who dare question your authority, take heed: for they are the self-appointed guardians of dA's digital domain, the arbiters of online justice. And woe unto those who dare challenge their interpretation of the rules – for they shall be met with the full force of their righteous wrath, backed by a carefully constructed web of half-truths and convenient omissions.
"Proof please. We haven't seen any proof of your claims for harassment. In fact Ilia is probably the only one who tries to be logical with users who are breaking the rules by showing them the link to the rule and let them know. Granted she was blunt and rude to you and if memory serves us correctly, she's already apologized for that. She hasn't talked about you in MONTHS on any of her platforms and yet here you are continuing your own misery. (aka your drama)"
-I think you didn't listen to me when i can show you soon as i said, And i knew it was her, That sucker woman logical me and claimed to be breaking dA rules when i DIDN'T breaking the FUCKING dA rules. The grand arbiter of harassment accusations, demanding proof with the haughty air of a digital judge presiding over their virtual courtroom. "Proof please," they declare with a flick of their digital gavel, as if the very notion of harassment were nothing more than a figment of your imagination. But let's not be fooled by their self-righteous indignation, for beneath that facade lies a carefully constructed narrative designed to absolve themselves of any wrongdoing. "We haven't seen any proof of your claims for harassment," they proclaim proudly, conveniently ignoring the avalanche of evidence that threatens to bury them alive. And oh, the audacity! Your friends dares to paint Ilia as the voice of reason in a sea of chaos, the lone beacon of logic amidst the digital tumult. "She's already apologized for that," they boast, as if a mere apology were enough to erase the scars of their past transgressions. But beware, dear sussy baka, for in her world, forgiveness is a fleeting commodity, easily revoked at a moment's notice. "She hasn't talked about you in MONTHS," they declare with a hint of exasperation, as if your mere existence were an affront to their delicate sensibilities. So, to all those who dare accuse devil people of harassment, take heed: for they are the masters of manipulation, the architects of deceit. And woe unto those who dare challenge their version of reality – for they shall be met with the full force of their indignant rebuttal, backed by a carefully constructed web of half-truths and convenient omissions.
"You are claiming she's racist cause she assumed a user who goes by "blackdawg" or whatever the hell that username is = as you? She hasn't ONCE displayed any behaviors of racism. and you would have to show proof of this and her reporting an account she BELIEVED it was YOU because of the defending / block evading that was going on after you and her's spat - Yeah. Anyone would auto think that account was yours. Well, except you and your "friends""
-This username will be NOT me, I believe it was made by someone when i DO not own this. And I also belived it's your fault because of your moron post. The self-appointed defender against accusations of racism, boldly challenging claims with the fervor of a digital warrior. "You are claiming she's racist," they declare with a scoff, as if the very notion were as preposterous as a unicorn prancing through cyberspace. But let's not be fooled by their righteous indignation, for beneath that facade lies a thinly veiled attempt to rewrite history and absolve themselves of any wrongdoing. "She hasn't ONCE displayed any behaviors of racism," they proclaim proudly, conveniently ignoring the subtle biases that permeate their every digital interaction. And oh, the audacity! You dares to justify their assumptions based on a mere username, as if the color of one's digital moniker were a reliable indicator of their true identity. "Anyone would auto think that account was yours," they declare with a sense of certainty, as if their own biases were somehow beyond reproach. But beware, dear sussy baka, for in your mom, the truth is a malleable concept, easily manipulated to suit their own agenda. "Except you and your 'friends,'" they add with a hint of disdain, as if your refusal to conform to their narrative were somehow a mark of guilt. So, to all those who dare accuse you of racism, take heed: for they are the masters of deflection, the architects of denial. And woe unto those who dare challenge their interpretation of reality – for they shall be met with the full force of their indignant rebuttal, backed by a carefully constructed web of half-truths and convenient omissions.
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hullo! I'm a returning tumblr user after the whole reddit fiasco.
how has the relationship between users and the staff around here been recently? i'm still salty about the purge but it seems like staff is a lot more easygoing than they used to be. certainly more than reddit lol
I would say that they're just different. The purge was forced onto Tumblr. Staff might not have handled it well, but it was the ban it or can it. Tumblr wouldn't be on the app store without it, which could be quite a problem for a lot of people. It would lose users if they switched to an download or online login in platform.
Now staff being more chill here? Sort of? They aren't doing what reddit is doing, but they aren't perfect. A lot of us still war against staff. One war we are currently dealing with is layout changes, or unwanted new additions. It's not the fault of the majority of staff, only a few are a part of it. The random changes and updates come from having to prove a paycheck and keep the development team. It happens with other social media. You have to constantly innovate or your position is useless, but development teams are important to keep, the corporate world just doesn't care.
As for the bad side of staff? They don't do much about far-right people on the platform and their hate. Staff also bans people indiscriminately. They don't deal with some of the bots who post porn all the time and dm people, or a guy whose whole Tumblr is promoting something illegal, but they'll get rid of the blogs of Kinksters, and poc, predominantly black women.
There's also the claim that staff has terfs, which would make a lot of sense. There are terfs who get off free even after talking in their spaces about hurting and hating a majority of the user base. They'll have unhinged tirades and stalking with no repercussions. That doesn't make this place safe, and staff doesn't seem to care while also saying they are friendly to Queer people.
A post was circling a few months ago where a bunch of terfs, who most have blocked, they were talking about a woman. She's a disabled wheelchair user who's bisexual and in a heterosexual relationship. She'd gotten a tattoo of the f-slur, and the terfs on here hate that stuff, want to police who can do what and why. They talked about shoving her down the stairs and we're joyously laughing about it. They posted popular reaction images made in mspaint, but they were using them as references to killing her. Those reaction images are usually used on Tumblr as the feeling of being unhinged, or reactions to news, not threats of violence. It took a large group of people reporting it to get anything done.
The problem with this is that one person or a small group flagging a trans person's suggestive or kinky photos gets them canned really fast. The same can't be said about people who threaten minorities on here. There's a lot of antisemitism (that's sadly common on every platform) and it harms Jewish users who have to deal with being harassed and stalked. It was really bad a few months ago because JKR made herself relevant again and a bunch of arguments started and a lot of people who are out about being Jewish, were getting hate mail and harassment by a lot of users. Staff doesn't do much about that type of stuff, even letting people make hate blogs around harassing minorities. Nothing happens to them.
There are some bad people on staff, they have their own blogs and they sit around reading and reblogging our posts. Staff sucks, but it's not because of everyone working at Tumblr. Since a few can't really be trusted, staff shouldn't be seen as laid back or kind. They are not our friends, this is their job and not all of them do it well. Some don't leave their biases at the door, but rather, indulge themselves on the job without repercussions. That's why staff isn't actually chill. They seem nice, but that's their job. They also help aid reports against many minorities who should feel safe, and they see it as doing their job.
#ask response#reddit migration#reddit#reddit refugee#tumblr staff#reddit going dark#reddit protest#staff don't nuke this post or me#but you probably will#ask: nicoconot
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