#if anyone could help thatd be so neat

[randowhump]

I have a vision but I do not have the art skills

[jackienautism]

If you were able to make your dream team in 3 houses and pluck and pick anyone from any house to make a new one , who would you choose ?

OHOHOo THANK YOU FOR SNEDING THIS IN IT MADE ME GET OUT OF MY CHAIR AND WALK AROUND FOR A BIT HEHE

to preface this though im by no means "good" at this game or anything dfgjkdfn i just go with the flow sometimes and choose whatever speaks to me yk... and im certainly not like. competitive or whatever. i mainly play games for enjoyment so please dont hurt me

was there any point in saying all that? no. since based on the ask it seems youre asking more abt creating an ultimate house full of faves rather than a list based on compatibility / playability during battles but. just wanted to make that clear

i also havent played the dlc yet so i dont know any of the ashen wolves ): once i play that this selection maaaay get updated

WITH THAT BEING SAID. SORT OF A BORING ANSWER BUT LIKE? IN TERMS OF DREAM TEAM IN BATTLES. ID DEF HAVE TO SAY ALL THE GIRLS... I THINK THATD JUST BE FUN.... its actually something i plan to do at some point after i finish up this run of azure moon :D

in terms of ultimate faves coming together in one house though? regardless of compatibility in battle? def dorothea marianne and mercedes... and edie. and lysithea. is there a cut off point? ok wait hold on. there's typically 8 per house right? ok. ok. fuck hold on.

DEF dorothea marianne and mercedes. edelgard i suppose as house leader even though claude comes VERY close. unless im able to put 2 house leaders in one? bc id love to do that. ok. so . them and then linhardt . fuck this is hard. uhmmmm.

UHM . OK. DOROTHEA MARIANNE MERCEDES EDELGARD CLAUDE LINHARDT LYSITHEA AND . PETRA ? IF IM UNABLE TO CHOOSE CLAUDE THEN ..... FERDIE ..... FINAL ANSWER

AFTERE PETRA WOULD BE INGRID THEN CASPAR THEN HUBERT I THINK

youa ctually dont understand how difficult that was for me. narrowing it down to only 8 characters? aaauugh im so indecisive. i only recently settled on my top fave from each house. only took me like . 2 years to do so. 3 actually

the other characterss i def still like (i pretty much enjoy all of them) but i dont have like HUGE attachments to them. like raphael and ignatz? i think they are very cool and neat but i wouldn't say theyre at the top of my list by any means, despite me like ..... suuuper respecting them

sylvain is an interesting character (as are pretty much all the blue lions) but i just dont reallt care abt theme ...... exception being mercedes and possibly ingrid. i see a character who puts their "niceness" on full display who also deserves to get angry and i get attached so of course mercedes grew on me. plus i think she's real sweet. not to say mercedes being nice is a facade but her being seen as the "mom friend" all the time must wear her down. like. when has there been a moment where she WASNT coddling someone / saying the nice thing / saying slash doing what the other person expects from her? NOT TO SAY SHES A PEOPLE PLEASER EITHER BUT JUST.... BC I KNOEW SHE WANTS TO SPEND THE REST OF HER LIFE HELPING OTHERS...... I JUST ENJOY CHARACTERS LIKE THAT LOL..... theyre easy to project onto. and i say ingrid bc her timeskip design..... gives me so much gender envy you have no idea. i already sort of talked abt the blue lions in another psot but. yeah! theyre all very interesting but for the most part i just couldn't care less

no one asked for this and YOU certainyl didnt ask for this but i wanna go through each house real quick.... i love the black eagles w/ all my heart. theyre def my fave house. im most emotionally attached to dorothea and linhardt i think though.... i just rly rly rly like edelgard. plsu i think all the hate surrounding her is dumb more than half the time. plus she was one of the characters i most had my eyes on back in 2020... when i firtt started playing.... the main reason why i GOT three houses was bc my friend told me i could marry her / marry a girl gkdfkgg so of COURSE shes gonna be held close to my heart..... but anyway. ferdie hubert and petra..... ferdinand and hubert grew on me after getting their A supports w/ byleth. its been a while since i watched the supports / thought abt them individually as characters but . i just remember feeling very ): (positive) after those moments. i rly enjoyed their character development... off the top of my head i love how hubert was like ... we can be the twin eagles flying alongside edelgard.... or some shit. and the whole like. if he had two lives he'd dedicate one to you..... I JUST LOVED THAT SO MUCH...... ferdie's an annoying noble sure but him post timeskip is just ..... idk man i just remember loving him during it soooo much. sucks my thoughts arent incredibly elaborate rn (will probably be so after playing crimson flower again) but. yeah. petra just. i instantly liked her and enjoyed her presence. plus shes a pretty solid unit. i wish i had more i could say but i dont really think about her in depth very often. i just think she's neat :) BERNIE. IA LMOST FORGOT ABT BERNIE. shes def the same as petra in this case but just ranked a bit lower. i dont think abt her much in depth but. yeah. i guess i dont rly think abt ferdie and hubie in depth either? i just think theyre neat. AND CASPAR.... I LOVE HIM TOO..... his A support w/ byleth made me ): but hes also not a character i think abt in depth very often... once again, i just think hes neat

now for the golden deer... marianne and claude and lysithea..... oh maaaan.... ESP MARIANNE....... HER ARC W/ HER DEPRESSION JUST.......... maaaaaan. i already knew i loved her but her A support w/ byleth made me love her so much more than before..... claude is just. him being mixed and him feeling demonized and out of place in both almyra and fodlan despite being BOTH almyran and fod.....lan just..... that's just the everyday feeling of being mixed white. his A support w/ marianne and the little story he shared with her to make her feel better abt her bloodline? abt bearing burdens they didnt ask for? god man.... and i just think lysithea is neat :) plus her whole like.... life being cut short and her working extra hard and CONSTANTLY overworking herself bc of it is jsut .... it makes me so sad. her supports w/ lorenz esp rly made that clear for me.... like how she was like. she doesnt give a fuck abt the future of the alliance bc shes not gonna be there to even see it? how she said that id be better for him to speak to someone (abt this stuff) who has one (a future)? it's so fucked up. she deserves better. also her and marianne's relationship to death..... i may make a separate post abt that, but they make me ACHE. as i said before, raphael and ignatz are my boys but theyre not at the top of my list yk. id be happy if i saw them on my team but theyre not my ultimate faves yk. lorenz is jsut. idk. my opinion on him def changed a bit after going throuhg his supports w/ the golden deer but other than that. ... i just hate how he treats claude LMAO he has a stick shoved up his ass like constantly. but i can respect his more pleasant moments absolutely. almost forgot abt hilda im sos sorry hilda. and leonie. idk theyre okay! theyre def in the same boat as ignatz and raphael. leonie did get on my nerves a bit sometimes though. her whole thing w/ jeralt just got annoying sometimes. she got better post timeskip i think but. yeah

SORRY FOR GOIONG ON AND ON LOL THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SENDING THIS IIIIIIN!!!!

[sanchoyo]

danny phantom episode 4-7 Thoughts: (under a readmore because, these got kinda long!)

-the outfit danny had to buy for dash's party. CLASSIC 2000S i cannot stop laughing. And also showing up to the party and everyone is dressed like the trio is hilarious. and further proof that everyone looks good dressed goth.

-dash has a closet full of cute lil bear plushies?? LOVE that. adorable. also his response to danny trashing his room fighting a ghost was SO valid if somone BROKE MY BED IN HALF ID BE PISSED TOO.

-technus being like 'oh smart, u should be a tutor!' then later being like 'forget tutor, be a teacher!' :) supportive king <3 I also really like his upgraded suit/design. AND SPOCK CAMEO??? HELLO??

-the music in this show is super. its so funky. I looked it up and the guy who does it, guy moon (awesome name) also did music for other cartoons like fairly odd parents, barnyard, chalkzone, billy & mandy, AND some actual movies like FIGHT CLUB??? the whiplash I got from reading that)

-sam being rich explains a lot about her, actually.

-I know the moral of the episode was supposed to be 'dont ditch your friends for popular people/spend a lot of money on clothes that arent You to Fit In'. but tbh. it wouldve been easy for danny to have been like 'well, okay, ill come but only if my friends can!' but I get. that hes 14. so. not a lot to say there.

-BOX GHOST IS BACK!!!!! also, danny sitting up and wearing the dress/wig/makeup. umm thats how I dress everyday LMFAO. unironically me. (hate the jokes that boil down to 'haha funney man in dress' tho. but this is a look)

-jazz being protective of her brother once again being like NOOO YOU GUYS BETTER NOT STAKE OUT HIS (actually haunted) LOCKER!! shes aware of how people perceive him and she wants to help :( which is also probably why she told dash to invite him to that party even tho she had no interest in going!! she wants to help him out :(

-gotta say im with tucker on the whole 'should danny use his powers to get back at bullies' debate. 100% yes. let him teach kids to fight back. making dash throw his food at paulina out of the blue? no. but when hes actually about to pick on someone? yeah! for self defense? YEAH! if dash and his friends just threw food at him, I think rather than. idk doing sneaky shit with frogs he couldve just threw it back and not pulled punches if they tried to fight. I kNOOWWW its a kids show so they are like 'if u fight back ur just as bad!! violence bad!!' but. theyre HIS POWERS. WHO CARES.

-like my only gripe is that dash really isnt LEARNING ANYTHING WHEN DANNY GETS BACK AT HIM IN THE MOST PETTY INDIRECT WAYS. whatever they had to add a bully psa episode I guess. I hate it and I hate the way cartoons usually handle it because these methods simply Do Not Work. 'aND YouRE USinG YOur poWErs FOR EVill???!' this is Not Evil. even when poindexter takes dannys body, theyre only being 'nice' bc hes stealing soda for them!! bitches deserve what they get (nothing too brutal bc theyre high schoolers but damn, if they pick on danny he doesnt need to be the 'bigger person' he needs to start biting people)

-SAM TRYING TO SMUGGLE FROGS OUT OF THE BIO LAB?? girl in middle school when we had to dissect frogs we could opt out, also, they came to us already dead and preserved...

-sidney's lingo and the fact hes in black and white is sending me. also, danny is a ghost celebrity apparently for being a halfa?? ok. thats interesting to know

-the DENTIST BEING EXCITED ABOUT THE COTTON CANDY FLOOD IS THE FUNNIEST THING SO FAR.

-I LOOOVE the trope of 'wishes gone wrong'. not crazy about the stereotypical genie, or the use of the dreamcatcher looking design. (also, I KNOW theyre scientists but the way theyre handling a cold...are the fentons ANTIVAX)

-the genie. she. whitewished paulina. JKASDFHKJ. (the ghost literally just being hello kitty???? im dying) 'why do i feel that im special and wonderful? because I AM! <3' paulina ilu self worth queen. felt bad for her also getting possessed by (2) boys later who were arguing INSIDE HER. WTF.

-imagine being the guy trapped in his now flying car. he thought danny and tucker were HALUCINATIONS. imagine being trapped in a flying car with two, what you think are imaginary arguing 14 year olds convinced ur gonna die. i WOULD say this dude is gonna need so much therapy, but he seemed totally fine and excited when they landed (I would be happy too if a chicken was on my head. chickens rule) stoner rights

-sam's bat slippers??? iconic. SO cute.

-I think desiree's backstory is so :( do all ghosts have messed up sad backstories?? poindexter's was sad too...cannot imagine box ghost has any kind of fucked up backstory. but what if. his mom got pushed off cliffs by boxes...........a la cruella... anyway her 'no man may lay a hand on me' iconic. ilu

-I know danny has no concept of how much bras cost but my god dont attack tucker with some girls bra. those are so expensive.

-its really. well its not a GOOD THING he went into the portal and got fucked up, but its good danny was the one to do it rather than sam or tucker. because even tho he was being influenced by desiree and kept getting more malicious and it prob wasnt 100% him...he sucked as a ghost like most the people he 'pranked' were innocent ppl just Chillin and he didnt want to help anyone at all. I think danny is the most responsible out of them but also, hes 14 and shouldnt HAVE to feel obligated to fight every ghost. hes a good kid and wants to, but I also feel like he feels like...responsible for the portal turning on?? because his parents did give it up,, but it was an accident and not his fault (if anything, why was the on switch on the inside. why was it that easy. why was there no safety measures. that seems like smth OSHA needs to hear about). like thats my son. hes a good boy. and hes never done anything wrong in his life, ever. if anyone hurts him im killing everyone in this room and then myself. etc.

-danny's curfew is 10PM????? DUDE. when I was 14...shit I couldn't be out that late, I had to be back at like, 8 at the latest, and my parents had to know exactly where and who I was going with, AND i had to call/text them regularly...is this a case of my parents being overbearing, or the fentons sucking??? the only time i could EVER be out that late was if I was at an overnight sleepover or smth...

-the vultures have lil fezes. why do they have fezes...theyre so fuckin funny 'ask him for directions' 'I KNOW WHERE IM GOING' these ghost vultures are my new grandpas. pick them up, put them in the adopt box.

-'I wonder why those guys were trying to waste dad!' THEYRE GHOSTS. YOUR DAD HUNTS GHOSTS. why is that not a conclusion you'd immediately jump to??

-*jazz voice, clearly disgusted* WISCONSIN???

-mrs fenton with the lab coat and leg warmers and PERM. YESSS STYLISH.

-was going to say 'ew billionaire' @vlad but. super valid he used his powers to assumedly steal and cheat to get that money, thats how all billionaires do it! but ew hes a SIMP. and spending your billions on FOOTBALL STUFF?? you are Not Valid overall. I DO respect the fact you have a castle instead of a mansion. in wisconsin. if youre going to be stupidly rich might as well go all out, torches on the wall and all. I DO like his ghost form's little kitty ears. catman. and his cape! every design can benefit from a cape. and how different his forms look, like danny looks the EXACT SAME IN BOTH FORMS ASIDE FROM COLOR CHANGES. vlad's is like,, I could believe they were different people!! also I love the drama. but dude you are fighting a 14 year old. lame. also he was like, telling danny he wanted his mom and him and like, wanted him to renounce his dad?? WHAT ABOUT JAZZ?? bitch. those r MY kids and they are both important and special. I do agree they need better parents but thats not u sir <3

-I thought vlad's 'little badger' nickname for danny came from the football mascot of the packers, but google says they have NO MASCOT?? so now I'm like?? is it because his hair is sometimes black and sometimes white?? I hate to give him props but thats a PERFECT NICKNAME. theyre also tiny and vicious!

-why did I get so excited that Skulker is back!! its been like. 2-3 eps LMAO. AND THE DAIRY KING. ICONIC I LOVE HIM. hes the nicest guy ever :) more nice ghosts please. danny cannot be fighting alone everytime with no ghost buds like every ghost being hostile sucks :(

-mr. fenton knew vlad was controlling him, but a few episodes ago he had no clue danny was doing the same thing...is it something about how malicious the ghost is?? he just seemed to think his memory had gaps the first time, this time he was INSTANTLY LIKE 'GHOST'. then again in this ep when danny did it again he was just slightly confused but not immediately freaking out like he did with vlad possessing him!!

-'my parents will accept ME NO MATTER WHAT' so. so why haven't you come out to them yet, danny?? if you really think that?? if theres no harm, and you're sure??? if vlad is a real problem, wouldnt that make dealing with him easier, to expose him???? SO WHY HAVENT YOU COME OUT YET?? COULD IT BE,, MAYBE YOU HAVE DOUBTS ABOUT WHETHER YOUR PARENTS ACTUALLY WILL ACCEPT YOU??? 🤔 ... 🏳‍🌈 I get why people say He Is Trans. I totally totally get u danny.

-sorta unrelated, but it just occurred to me in one of these eps they go to casper HIGH not casper middle school??? theyre 14?? dont highschools usually do ages 15-18? (I didnt go to hs so I might be wrong, if I am ignore this...) freshmen are usually 14-15, could just be a case of them not turning 15 yet but they will sometime in the school year (I say they because tucker said he was 14 too)? I know the show has 3 seasons, so by the end of it will they be older? thatd be neat but usually cartoon characters stay the same age...I love shows where you can see the characters age and grow up, though...three seasons seems like a long time to spend on like, 1 year...

[apocalypticacolyte]

Finola convo

[09:21] -- waveRider [WR] began pestering apocalypticAcolyte [AA] at 21:21 --

[09:21] WR: heya nerrd

[09:21] AA: hello!!!!!!!

[09:22] WR: arrgaia just told me to stop talkin to you

[09:22] WR: so guess vvhat i'm doing

[09:22] WR: talking to you!

[09:22] AA: :O

[09:22] WR: ha

[09:22] WR: fuck herr

[09:23] WR: she doesn't get the rright to make the rrules anymorre

[09:23] AA: may i ask why not???

[09:24] WR: she scrrevved a bunch of us overr in ourr game

[09:24] WR: and it doesn't even matterr novv, rright?

[09:24] WR: like, ourr session is toast vvhetherr vve like it orr not

[09:24] AA: oh

[09:24] WR: shouldn't matterr about enforrcing all these bullshit rrules

[09:25] WR: i mean i vvish ourr session vvas still out therre somevvherre

[09:26] WR: that vvay maybe vve could go back and trry to fix things, knovving vvhat vve knovv novv

[09:26] WR: ha

[09:26] WR: yeah rright

[09:26] WR: it vvould take a mirracle to get ourr grroup vvorrking togetherr again

[09:28] AA: :(

[09:29] AA: that sucks

[09:29] WR: i just rreally vvant to get my povverrs and not let everrybody dovvn, yknovv?

[09:30] AA: yeah

[09:30] AA: :(

[09:30] WR: not that vve'd have a good time playerr orr anything anymorre

[09:30] WR: sorrrry you don't knovv vvhat that is

[09:30] AA: could you explain what it is???

[09:30] WR: uhhh just knovv it's rreally helpful forr biggerr and shittierr grroups

[09:31] WR: because vve fuck up a lot morre than smallerr vvell-coorrdinated ones like yourrs

[09:32] WR: but nooooo vve get stuck vvith the time playerr that doesn't give a shit about anyone but herrself

[09:33] AA: :(

[09:34] WR: blah blah can't do this can't do that can't fucking fix ANYTHING

[09:34] WR: like that's yourr entirre fucking job!!

[09:34] WR: anyvvay

[09:34] WR: sorrrry

[09:34] WR: doesn't much matterr novv i guess

[09:35] AA: its fine to rant or vent to me if you want to!!

[09:35] WR: avv dang

[09:35] WR: thanks man

[09:37] AA: since you mentioned time players are there other types of players???

[09:37] WR: uhh yeah that's the povverr shit i've mentioned beforre

[09:37] WR: you got like a fuckton of those

[09:38] WR: can't even think of them all to list

[09:38] AA: !

[09:38] AA: !!

[09:38] AA: !!!

[09:38] AA: !!

[09:38] AA: !

[09:38] AA: is there anything i need to know about them before going into the game???

[09:38] WR: ha look at you go vvith yourr funky little pyrramids

[09:38] WR: and uh

[09:38] WR: vvell

[09:39] WR: the vvay you get yourr povverrs is kinda surrprrising

[09:39] WR: so just uh

[09:39] WR: don't be too shook orr anything i guess?

[09:39] AA: huh

[09:40] WR: and be carreful vvith yourr extrra lives (that's vvhat you guys call them in games, rright?)

[09:40] AA: (i think so??)

[09:40] AA: alright!!!

[09:40] WR: they'rre imporrtant

[09:40] WR: you prrobably vvon't see vvhy forr a vvhile but they arre

[09:42] WR: oh hell

[09:42] WR: just looked ahead

[09:42] WR: yourrs arre prretty cool my man

[09:42] AA: owo

[09:42] WR: novv hold up just a flipping second

[09:42] WR: did you serriously just "ovvo" at me??

[09:43] AA: maybe i did

[09:43] WR: like you just totally unirronically ovvoed at me

[09:43] WR: man maybe arrgaia vvas rright i shouldn't talk to you!!

[09:43] WR: (jk jk)

[09:43] WR: you furrrry

[09:43] AA: im not the furry in my group!!!!!

[09:43] AA: thatd be kacy!!!!

[09:43] WR: HA

[09:43] AA: he has a fursona and everything!!!!

[09:44] WR: vvait

[09:44] WR: vvait vvait vvait

[09:44] WR: like no shit?

[09:44] WR: that man has an honest to gog furrsona??

[09:44] AA: yeah!!!!

[09:44] WR: that's fucking horrrrible i love it

[09:44] WR: vvhat an icon

[09:46] AA: i should make him a fursuit for his next birthday

[09:46] WR: HA

[09:46] WR: vvait vvhen's his birrthday

[09:46] WR: because if it's not in the next uhh couple vveeks orr so...

[09:46] AA: i dont really remember when it is,,, dont tell him i said that

[09:47] WR: oh nah i vvon't don't vvorrrry

[09:47] WR: you'rre the only kid i talk to thrrough the vvhole thing i think

[09:47] WR: orr at least the parrts ive alrready done?

[09:47] AA: !!!!!!!!

[09:48] WR: vvhoa therre

[09:48] WR: vvhat arre ya so excited about?

[09:49] AA: im just !!! that im the only one of us youve talked to so far

[09:52] WR: yeah and?

[09:52] AA: just uhh forget i sent those !!!!s ok

[09:53] WR: alrright if you insist

[09:53] WR: considerr them forrgotten

[09:53] AA: good

[09:54] WR: 8)

[09:54] WR: 8) 8)

[09:54] WR: 8) 8) 8)

[09:54] WR: 8) 8)

[09:54] WR: 8)

[09:54] AA: !!!!

[09:54] WR: in the trrue spirrit of lana, an emoticon pyrramid

[09:54] AA: !!!!!!!!!

[09:55] WR: (man cmon that vvas the perrfect opporrtunity forr you to follovv up vvith anotherr pyrramid!)

[09:55] AA: (sorry i just got really excited that you also did it!!!!!)

[09:55] WR: oh neat that's fairr

[09:57] WR: avv hell you guys got a ton of cool povverrs

[09:57] AA: oh???

[09:57] WR: sorrrry im just lookin ahead don't mind me

[09:58] WR: it's like you got all the good ones

[09:58] WR: i mean technically vve did too? because vve got all of them?

[09:58] WR: (big grroup and all)

[09:58] WR: but vve had

[09:58] WR: uh

[09:59] WR: shitty people vvith them

[09:59] WR: man hovv come only the assholes got povverrs huh??

[09:59] AA: :(

[09:59] AA: thats super unfair

[09:59] WR: i shouldn't say that it's not entirrely trrue

[10:00] WR: karr and pos arre alrright

[10:00] WR: vvouldn't say theyrre assholes

[10:00] WR: i mean karr can be annoying sometimes surre but he's an ok guy i guess

[10:02] WR: yeah i guess novv that i think about it vve did get a fevv ok people vvith povverrs

[10:02] WR: mixed in vvith the assholes

[10:05] WR: pos gets annoying vvith herrs sometimes

[10:05] AA: what are hers if i can ask???

[10:06] WR: not surre i can say specifically but just knovv she's annoyingly optimistic as a povverr and she trries to make the rrest of us feel betterr about ourr shit situation

[10:06] WR: doesn't alvvays vvorrk vvell

[10:06] AA: huh

[10:07] WR: i'm surre you can imagine

[10:08] WR: man she is RRRREALLY trrying harrd on elv huh

[10:08] WR: everry damn perrson up herre knovvs she's crrushing harrd

[10:09] WR: everryone except elvirra, naturrally

[10:09] WR: sorrrry to derrail the converrsation she's just rreally playing it up rright novv

[10:09] AA: huh

[10:09] AA: do you have a crush on anybody up there if thats ok to ask???

[10:09] WR: hah

[10:09] WR: these assholes?

[10:09] WR: nah

[10:09] WR: no <3 forr me

[10:10] AA: valid!!!

[10:10] WR: sometimes that's betterr, yknovv?

[10:10] AA: also ruby asked if you could give us any more info on what were going into

[10:10] WR: <3 gets rreally trricky in such a confined space - oh uhhh lemme think

[10:11] WR: just uhhhh

[10:11] WR: take it serriously, it seems like a game but rreally it's superr fucking serrious

[10:12] WR: you'rre on a prretty strrict time limit, so uh prriorritize and shit

[10:12] WR: prriorritize yourr frriends overr the game and the game overr us

[10:12] WR: some people vvill tell ya that the game's the most imporrtant thing

[10:12] WR: but rreally it's yourr grroup

[10:13] WR: you need ALL OF YOU to succeed

[10:13] WR: that's vvherre vve fucked up

[10:14] AA: thank you for the info!!!

[10:14] WR: yeah no prroblem

[10:14] WR: but like 100% no shit put yourr grroup beforre yourr session

[10:15] WR: because the game is strrange

[10:15] WR: it makes you think you'rre supposed to do one thing, and you get so focused on that thing,

[10:15] WR: but rreally that vvasn't it at all

[10:16] WR: and if you decide that a possibly vvrrong goal in the game is morre imporrtant than yourr frriends, vvell...

[10:16] WR: it's not good

[10:16] WR: it was the worst mistake we ever made

[10:16] WR: and look where we ended up

[10:17] WR: everybody'll tell you you can't trust anybody and all that crap

[10:17] WR: but really the one you can't trust is the game itself.

[10:18] WR: it's not you versus each other or you versus us or even you versus the queen. it's your group versus the game.

[10:18] WR: that's how i see it anyways. not that anybody listened. not that i knew it in time to make a difference.

[10:19] WR: not that i could've, without any powers.

[10:20] WR: you have to stay together. promise me that. i know kirrin's told you not to give a shit about us, that you have to win.

[10:21] WR: she's partially right.

[10:21] WR: don't give a shit about us.

[10:21] WR: about me.

[10:21] WR: winning is keeping your group together.

[10:21] WR: don't lose each other, because then you've lost everything. not just the game.

[10:22] WR: don't lose yourself either.

[10:22] WR: especially you, lana. don't lose yourself.

[10:22] WR: please.

[10:22] AA: alright.

[10:24] AA: i promise you im going to do whatever it takes to keep my group together.

[10:24] WR: thank you, lana. but remember to keep yourself together too.

[10:25] WR: i don't know why the game picked what it did for you. but i'm worried about what that could do to you.

[10:27] WR: don't be afraid to ask for help

[10:28] WR: the others are there for you too

[10:28] WR: you have a good group, lana.

[10:28] WR: i know why the game picked you.

[10:28] WR: ha

[10:28] WR: look at that

[10:28] WR: guess i finally figured out where i stand on this god/technology thing

[10:28] WR: fesvah was right

[10:29] WR: so was kirrin, in a way

[10:29] WR: the game is a sort of god

[10:29] WR: it wants what it wants and we don't understand why

[10:29] WR: but yknow what

[10:29] WR: we're gonna kick this god's ass

[10:29] WR: you and me, lana

[10:29] WR: you do the kicking i'll call the shots

[10:29] WR: it's gonna be EPIC

[10:30] WR: and i think that maybe

[10:30] WR: just maybe

[10:30] WR: if we work together

[10:30] WR: if you all work together

[10:30] WR: you can win

[10:30] WR: we can win

[10:31] WR: and maybe we can get out of here

[10:31] WR: but hey that one's only if we have time ;)

[10:33] AA: i hope theres time for that

[10:33] WR: don't worry about that too much

[10:33] WR: i'll see ya if the game means for it to happen

[10:33] WR: and if not, hey.

[10:34] WR: i'm sure we'll have a great time on the inside together, even if i'm stuck up here.

[10:34] WR: and maybe we'll still be able to talk afterwards

[10:35] WR: in any case, don't change your chumhandle. i'll try to reach ya if you guys end up moving on

[10:36] WR: maybe kir can rig something up, she's good at that tech stuff

[10:38] WR: you been quiet for a while over there, buddy. you good?

[10:38] AA: im good im just,, thinking

[10:38] WR: about?

[10:38] WR: share your thoughts with me bud

[10:40] AA: about the game and whats in store,, i hope we can get you and your group out of there!!

[10:41] WR: seriously bud you gotta stop worryin about us

[10:42] WR: worry about your friends!

[10:42] WR: it seems so natural to have them there with you that you kinda forget how important they are while they're with you until

[10:42] WR: well,

[10:42] WR: until they aren't

[10:43] WR: i guess

[10:43] AA: :(

[10:48] WR: you guys don't do moirails so it'd be different for you but

[10:48] WR: uh

[10:48] WR: yeah

[10:48] WR: just be careful

[10:49] WR: it sucks, no matter what your relationship with somebody is

[10:49] WR: or was

[10:49] WR: or could have been

[10:50] WR: it always sucks to lose somebody

[10:50] AA: yeah :(

[10:54] WR: anyways

[10:54] WR: might be bad advice i dunno but

[10:54] WR: get your team together as soon as possible

[10:54] WR: like in the game physically together in the same place

[11:01] AA: ok

[11:02] WR: i think that'll help ya

[11:03] WR: anyway

[11:03] WR: sorrrry to dump all this stuff on you

[11:03] WR: i should go

[11:03] WR: bye forr novv i guess

[11:04] AA: bye please stay safe

[11:04] WR: it's not me ya need to vvorrrry about, kid

[11:04] WR: sleep tight

[11:04] -- waveRider [WR] ceased pestering apocalypticAcolyte [AA] at 23:04 --

[bytedown]

==> Tell the truth

flippinoptimist hi i imight naut reply to big talky posts for a bit cause a friend showed up an im givin him weird confusion pie but im still here im just distracted unless you beep at me!

flippinoptimist wait i see the thing now!

bytedown

Oh! Alright, didnt mean ta be spotty, and you've not missed much, I got called away for a bit, an I'm not mobile

flippinoptimist i do that too sometides!  i get distracted easy but i try to remember to come back evventually hope it was for fun stuff

bytedown I try ta take fun where I can :)

flippinoptimist lol youre good at naut specifyin shit optimisms super great though, i think its important to findin all the secret cool endings when weird shit goes down

bytedown ..is it too terrible obvious I'm doin that?

flippinoptimist most people are kinda dumb so idk, but the clever ones that come from places where theres secret cops that blend into social groups and then arrest everybody w/ the wrong opinions are probably gonna notice or the ones from places where the wrong opinions get dudes killed in general youre p laid back an careful

bytedown LOL I aint a cop thats for damned sure

flippinoptimist lol sweet cause thats naut too popular a lotta places

bytedown Sounds like some real bad places, is that common?

flippinoptimist yeah p much i dont see it on dudes w/ green eyes often but life sure is sometimes most places have some p harsh lifestyles for whoevers on the bottom

bytedown Now that I'm real familiar with, though I'm thinkin my bottoms a bit different from th' one you're thinkin of

flippinoptimist

bytedown Gonna have ta quit the internet now, laughin too much

flippinoptimist B) i mean i bet shits different it always kinda is, but im curious what your deal is aint a lotta trolls that know much about magic, an the smart dudes that know how to naut spill their private shit all over are usually worth noticin you have no idea how many dudes home coordinates i get from offerin to send free pizzas no strings attached

bytedown Now thats a wee bit reckless of them

flippinoptimist right i mean i dont do anythin w/ it but i like collectin coords just to see if i can

bytedown ya realize the irony of sweet talkin me into givin up my secrets by complimentin my ability to keep them?

flippinoptimist its terrible! im cool w/ whatever im just curious B)

bytedown I can see you're curious, an thats a bit dangerous for me, I didn' break th' nanny restrictions on this thing ta be shut up so soon

flippinoptimist im naut a big fan of shuttin anybody up

bytedown ya could just be sayin that ta be honest

bytedown I don't much know anyone around here enough ta judge whos safe and who isnt

flippinoptimist you got a point there.  for what its worth, though its only a side gig, im an occasional space pirate, an i grew up scroungin shit and sayin w/e i felt like, and fuck what the system thought about it youll get more trust online from the ones smart enough to notice what youre doin, if you pick details that you are willin to share -- real or fake -- and stick to em or dont mind sayin that you dont know who to trust, that works too thatll probably get you a lotta concern an friendly ears to be honest

bytedown ...

flippinoptimist aight, ill stop bein pokey, but i like talkin in general what kinda stuff is low risk enough to chat about?

bytedown I'm just tryina think

flippinoptimist like, non-identifyin kk ill bug my friend whose visitin some

bytedown I don't even know, cause theres details that're gonna not fit, I'm already havin that trouble what I'm worryin about is you know the folks I dont want things gettin back to

flippinoptimist i got that feelin, yeah

bytedown I live on prosperity, I supposed thats safe enough ta tell ya and explains some stuff

flippinoptimist sorry for steppin all up in your shit, i didn mean to, i just notice things yeah it explains most a the bits that dont fit an the parts you aint used to.

bytedown if I'm gettin caught I oughta know about it, so I can fix shit

flippinoptimist is w/e's wrong w/ your bottom

somethin the dudes in charge could fix p easy?

bytedown you're weirdly fuckin charmin pretty sure they aint gonna care about my problems

flippinoptimist thanks, i like to think its my good side.  you seem neat too.

flippinoptimist ...yeah, if youre gettin caught, youll know about it before i say anythin.  im not promisin i wont yet, i dont know if you mean anybody harm, but like, youve been chattin in good faith so im gonna chat back in good faith have you heard about like, hemism yet? as a concept

bytedown I can fake that I know what that is real easy

flippinoptimist i mean, thats prob close enough for most shit, but like theres colors of trolls that, in most universes, get hatched slaves.  theres colors of trolls that, in most universes, get culled the second they peek outta the egg

bytedown Damn

flippinoptimist they hatched wrong, they get fucked.  an then theres colors a trolls that get the nice shiny pretty end of things. and theres dudes that rebel against the nice pretty shiny end of things and sometimes they win, and take over the universes they make and thats who sparks is.  he hatched into a not-people caste. and now his life is not like that anymore.

bytedown Dont tell him about me

flippinoptimist and like he spends a lotta his time an energy tryin to make things right for dudes in other universes... if you aint hurtin anybody i wont, but its kinda odd news to hear theres nasty shit goin down over there

bytedown fuckin here look

Thats me.

flippinoptimist oh dude your wings are kinda like mine

flippinoptimist yeah there sure is a lotta people bein pissy about fae in prosperity, i can see how youd be tweaked.  nice job photoshoppin your avatar

bytedown Some of the castle folk are kind enough, but he aint one of them.

flippinoptimist he gets p mad about stolen kids

bytedown A pixie has never stolen a child I'll guarantee you that.

flippinoptimist fuckin lol

flippinoptimist yeah thatd take some practice and effort an a clever series of hammocks an slings an shit theyre called slings when they aint like secured to a wall, right?

bytedown Slings are for huntin, I think

flippinoptimist theyre the same shape but you would probably want a different word for the throwin kind from the carryin kind when theres a baby in it

bytedown dependin on the type

flippinoptimist that is one a those cases where you do naut halfass the distinctions

bytedown lol

flippinoptimist as long as you aint like actively plannin stuff thatd hurt my dudes, i dont got a reason to tattle on anythin grats on gettin to the cross-dimensional internet on your own, that aint the easiest thing i think theyd be proud and interested to meet you if they knew you did, but, your call

bytedown He swats at us, did you know? and yells a fuckin lot

flippinoptimist

me in danger mode w wingles

bytedown blue eyes'll probably be mad about me stealin and retrofittin shit thats for proper people your wings're lovely, you're a very handsome lad

flippinoptimist i kinda want to tell him naut to do that shit since youre peopley enough to hack shit

bytedown I dont want him knowin about me

flippinoptimist yeah, aight. you mind me takin a coincidental interest in pixie shit that has nothin to do w/ anybody i may or may naut have met online? cause, he needs to be nice to dudes

bytedown Ya think he'll actually listen ta that?

flippinoptimist yeah

bytedown I caint stop ya from anything ya wanna do

flippinoptimist i mean like its super important to be good an im surprisingly attentive to that kinda deal, but when Grenades R Us starts tellin a dude to be more responsible w/ his shit a surprising number of dudes listen but like.  this is your shit and i dont got a right to meddle if you tell me to step off so if you tell me to go i dont say another word about it, and youre just a dude on the internet from a world a lot like prosperity

bytedown I don't wanna seem like I don't want some help, cause him not actin like a dick

bytedown 'd be nice

flippinoptimist not Not permission is p much all id need, i kind of go hunting when i find out someones been a douche

bytedown His partner likes us well enough, an set up a lil trade station. even if he doesn't seem ta believe we're literate.

flippinoptimist anybody like, talked to them about this? i mean i know that shits harder than it sounds when dudes are big and unpredictable

bytedown theres a wee bitty bit of a problem with talkin ta big folks An that has ta do with hearin range

flippinoptimist welp an illusions an shit dont cut it / arent an option im guessin

bytedown There was a real kind man who liked ta bake bread who was at the castle for a while, and he'd listen even though it was hard

bytedown Most've th' things I know how to do are for hidin, not for bein more noticable

flippinoptimist spooner?  human guy, hung out w sparks a lot?

bytedown yes!

flippinoptimist he was a guest a sparks, probably went back to his hive universe or somethin

bytedown It was a sad time for us all when he left

flippinoptimist lemme try an remember his blog

flippinoptimist hes been idle a while but you never know sometimes dudes come back after months a quiet http://cosmorobottips.tumblr.com/

bytedown ! Wonderful

flippinoptimist p much all the udes that have ever been through the castle have a blog or a trollian or both

bytedown Do Newsight and Suntouch?

flippinoptimist i know who would know and i dont mind askin quietly!

bytedown They're good people

flippinoptimist yeah.. i dont know em as much but i know one of newsights alternate selves a little bit he runs the teashop

bytedown They have milk and honey there (: We clean sometimes

bytedown You'd be surprised how many people will pay food for some cleaning

flippinoptimist theres a lusus in my hive that does the opposite of cleanin he likes rollin in dead things and fillin containers with sticks and leaves

bytedown That sounds like a bit of an adventure in not gettin sick from somethin

flippinoptimist i grew up outside, im good at naut gettin sick

bytedown Whats our definition of outside tday?

flippinoptimist i had a breather mask and a mud tent, an i swam down under trees on streams or into the sea shallows an burrowed into silt an slept there an came out when it was time to wake up most people do not think to look there

bytedown I lived in a tree hollow we cleared of deadwood, before I came to th' city

flippinoptimist an when you get good at it you can wiggle loose and un-mud w/o gettin much on you i lived in a big tree for a couple perigees...

bytedown how'd ya like th' tree?

flippinoptimist it was okay i think i like water or like, low-down skulky kinda lairs better

bytedown It'd gunk up my wings somethin fierce, I'm not a nixie

flippinoptimist they dont got a retracty deflatey mode?

flippinoptimist -- flippinoptimist has shared three contacts -- in order, those are newsight, suntouch, and twoblade the guy who is technically the city's diplomat right now

bytedown I'm afraid they're always out I'm grateful for th' contacts, you're a real chum

flippinoptimist that sounds inconvenient as shit and i mean, it seems like if im gonna give you kind of a scare an see straight through the cover story, its nice if i can like be cool too

bytedown terribly kind've ya

flippinoptimist B)!

flippinoptimist this one time, i decided to stop bein a dick, and its kinda stuck! im p happy about that, its been workin out for me

bytedown Seems ta be workin pretty well for ya!

flippinoptimist yeah!

bytedown Is there anythin you're needin ta know before you go pesterin someone out of the blue about beins he hates?

flippinoptimist has anyone Actually gotten hurt from him swattin, or just close calls?

bytedown We're fair fast, I don't think hes actually caught any of us

flippinoptimist good

bytedown if he'd actually hit one of us someone would've bit him

flippinoptimist yeah..an hed be kinda freaked out once he realised

bytedown Once he realized what?

flippinoptimist that hed been physically threatenin dudes w/o thinkin aboat it an did harm w/o realisin

bytedown Are you sure we're talkin about the same guy?

flippinoptimist cause like, "fuck off get outta my shit", sure, but "you have touched the coffeemaker pay in pain", naut so much yeah he gets yelly but hes nice once you get past that

bytedown The rules aren't always the same for us as proper people

flippinoptimist see that right there is the part that will make him tweak and decide to treat you exactly like regular people

bytedown What, because he found out I can type?

flippinoptimist hes a huge nerd, its a lot easier to notice smart people especially ones that are good at the same things that interest the nerd in question

bytedown :/ We're all fair smart, mate. Just too small for anyone ta notice

flippinoptimist yeah but as soon as someone does all bets are off and it is super fuckin easy to notice someone online where words are all there is

bytedown Th' elves know what we are an who and they could give less of a damn unless they need us ta do fine embroidery

flippinoptimist okay but like, also, fuck them

bytedown they like us for messengers too and th' like mostly

flippinoptimist have you heard a disruptive innovation

bytedown Cant say I have?

flippinoptimist like, search it real quick

flippinoptimist like its when a new thing gets made or learned, and it changes Everythin an fuckin Everybody has to move their shit around to adapt to the new way things are

bytedown sounds like an interestin concept

flippinoptimist usually its better tech -- "oh we have a cheap fast way to do this now, guess we'll stop payin hundreds of dudes to do it the slow way and theyll have to figure out new life plans" or science or shit -- "oops, everyone lives like twice as long as they dd before, we are gonna need a shitton new housing"

bytedown New types of magics do that sometimes

flippinoptimist ill bet!  sometimes like social movements or big political shit can do it too but.. thats basically what my deal is, or a bit part of where im tryin to aim what im about

bytedown You enjoy doin things that disrupt other things?

flippinoptimist yeah, kinda.  if it makes room for more possibilities than it tears down

flippinoptimist life is growth and change.  i got saddled with a destiny that makes me super good at bein smart and breakin shit.  sooo.... im gonna do it this way instead a the mean way.

bytedown They do say th' castle folk are gods

flippinoptimist theres a lotta arguin aboat that online sometides but yeah basically.  im kind of a half-formed young one that fucked up along the way, so i still gotta figure out a lot. i still dunno how the fuck prayer is supposed to work.  i will figure that one out though like i cant just Hear things.  i gotta figure out how to use magic to enable that

bytedown This's a lot ta think about, an I'm gettin real tired, its a wee bit late

flippinoptimist yeah i didnt mean to mess up your night or make it weird welcome to the outside internet

bytedown its a bit relievin not ta try ta pretend ta be a troll for a bit thank ya for th' welcome

flippinoptimist you might as well say youre a troll from one a the villages or somethin, they dont got good records from out there an prosperity is definitely v weird compared to other universes

bytedown I ah, cant lie

flippinoptimist oh, dang ... did you come from outside the city?

bytedown aye, I did

flippinoptimist somethin we could broadly describe as a rural home?

bytedown Ha, aye

bytedown I'll just say I'm from outside th' city

flippinoptimist then you wont get caught quite so easy w/ all the troll culture junk

bytedown Rest well, friend, and it was pleasant talkin to you

flippinoptimist im glad, you too dude!  good luck w/ your computery bits, if you ever wanna trade for junk hit me up most dudes online cannot get into prosperity even if they try, cause theres a like, lock on the universe to keep gross guys out.  it takes a password to get through.  im one of the dudes who can get in tho oh uh, bye, have a good one!

bytedown I'll remember that, though I doubt you could visit me, good night to you

flippinoptimist ill trust you on that one

[comicteaparty]

December 20th, 2018 CTP Archive

The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on December 20th, 2018, from 5PM - 7PM PST.  The chat focused on Goddess of Paradise by Dee S. / Beedee.

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RebelVampire

COMIC TEA PARTY- THURSDAY BOOK CLUB START!

Good evening, everyone~! This week’s Thursday Book Club is officially beginning! Today we are discussing Goddess of Paradise by Dee S. / Beedee~! (http://paradise.bluedubia.com/)

Remember that Thursday discussions are completely freeform! However, every 30 minutes I will drop in OPTIONAL discussion questions in case you’d like a bit of a prompt. If you miss out on one of these prompts, you can find them pinned for the chat’s duration. Additionally, remember that while constructive criticism is allowed, our focus is fun and respectfully appreciating the comic. All that said, let’s begin!

QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?

my favorite scene so far i think is when eridu runs into ekka. it was nice to see a character actually be happy to see her after a slew of eridu running into charas who dont really care all that much. and i just think its a good balance in general to all the hard truths eridu has woken up to.

although my second favorite scene admittedly is probably when she meets amun. just cause amun is gonna win all those awards for being lazy and laid back

but in general i liked how casually amun reveals that nah bro, its been 1200 years of slumber. as if its no big deal (which tbf for gods probably kind of isnt to a degree but still XD)

mathtans

My favourite scene was near the start of Chapter 4, with the human encounter. In large part because there was mention of a "dead human", making me think "wow that took a dark turn"... then it turned out she wasn' t dead and there was the whole "ick" factor, that wasn't dark at all.

Nice sort of twist, is I guess what I'm saying.

I also do like the Ekka scene though. In part because of my tendency to enjoy yuri ships.

RebelVampire

ah that was a hilarious moment. where eridu is basically treating the priestess like shes some dead insect or roadkill. but i also like within the comedy you see a really blunt and significant view into how she views humans

mathtans

Amun was cool, it was a good way to advance the plot, I'm not always keen on the laid back types though, heh.

Yeah, roadkill's kind of a good word the way that happened. ^.^

It's really interesting the way it's developed in first person overall too.

Reminds me a bit of a picture book, but the first person is a different take on that too.

RebelVampire

for the record you mean 2nd person. first person is "I do this thing" second person is "you do this thing"

but yeah this is probably the first 2nd person comic ive run into. im interested to see where it goes cause 2nd person is generally the more difficult pov to make work but theres also a lot of potential for creative stuff

mathtans

Oh yeah... that type of person.

Totally. I'm not sure how else you'd do it either, aside form having captions blocking the art. So this works.

RebelVampire

yeah it does work. although i also like that the comic has tons of silent moments that just let the visuals speak for themselves. because these are definitely some gorgeous visuals!

mathtans

That's true too. Also neat how some things stay the same while characters or other items appear.

RebelVampire

yeah it really helps draw your focus.

another scene i really like is when eridu shows up back on the island and all the green sprouts. cause its beautiful imagery. but im also haunted with questions about what happened to those two people who were watching

mathtans

Oh yeah, that was great. Goddess of amazing entrances or the like - though we saw the real one later on. ^.^ In retrospect, I feel like that made sense too, with humans being a footnote that she hadn't even expected to be there.

Though I do wonder about them too.

Maybe they were worshippers.

RebelVampire

maybe. although thatd be ironic if that sudden overgrowth killed them then

died for their beliefs

worshipped too hard

mathtans

True. Though I'm not sure death will really be a thing in the comic.

Feels like that was averted.

RebelVampire

maybe. id for sure say there probably wont be onscreen death.

probably

well violent death

mathtans

Unless it's one of the older gods maybe.

RebelVampire

QUESTION 2. After a 1200 year slumber, the Goddess Eridu finds the world quite different. Besides people being on her island, what else do you think will be a culture shock for Eridu? Do you think she’ll be able to adjust to all the changes, or will she refuse to accept them and continue to try to return the status quo? What do you think the other divine aspects have been up to over the years? Do you think more will be glad to see Eridu, like Ekka, or will more act like Amun and not care? Do you believe Eridu will manage to gain back her divine powers, or will something prevent her? Overall, how do you think this journey might change Eridu’s perspective on her divinity, on humans, or anything else? What will that change (or lack of change) mean for Eridu’s future actions?

mathtans

I wonder if technology exists on a world where Gods/Goddesses are just wandering around.

RebelVampire

depends on how we want to define technology. like for instance back when the world was young a loom would technically count as technology just cause it was a machine for advanced tasks.

im gonna laugh if eridu gets to a village and like theres electric lights everywhere. and she flips a light switch on and off wondering how humans came upon such magic and which god gave it to them

i feel regardless technology would advance

since if eridu can be considered a look into the average god/goddess than they probably mostly just ignore humans

unless theyre like "man i feel like being worshipped today"

mathtans

Well, that's a fair point. I guess I feel like if you can just ask a god to turn on the lights, there's not much need to do the inventing.

I also kind of wonder if one of the divine aspects is what put Paradise to sleep in the first place. Like, maybe was in league with that Enki new God type.

Unless Enki turns out to be a posturing human that the divine aspect was using as a puppet or something.

RebelVampire

dang now thatd be an interesting twist

mathtans

Also, this is a small island in the middle of nowhere. Maybe the mainland is rather different in terms of society.

All about the twists.

RebelVampire

this is also a large possibility. i considered that too. that whatever the island is it might not be representative of the world. honestly it could be argued the island has more old world values even cause theyre the only ones with a shrine left

Beedee

ahhh sorry I'm late! I'm reading up. hello people!

RebelVampire

hello~!

but yeah the twist, i just wouldnt think itd be possible cause the divine aspects are like parts of herself. so itd be hard to imagine one getting powerful enough to oust her. but that is what would make a twist like that so interesting cause it seems so unlikely

i think as far as the aspects though were gonna meet more amun's than ekka's XD not necessarily as laid back as amun, but more like they moved on in life/got bored

mathtans

Might not be old world values as much as it's just new gods have taken over everywhere and they haven't gotten around to dealing with the island yet.

I kinda thought about the parts of self thing... but isn't there a part of ourselves that we sometimes hate, and wish we could get rid of? And the Goddess doesn't seem like she'd be the nicest person to that part of herself, maybe. Though who knows, I may be way off.

I wonder if some of the others might also be asleep, or be serving other goddesses or something.

RebelVampire

the impression im getting is theyre all in their inner sanctums. so cant exactly serve anyone if theyre stuck there. and i also doubt they would cause i dont get the impression they think eridu is dead

thats like declaring loyalty to the assistant manager while the manager is on vacation

mathtans

Maybe they left voicemail at the inner sanctum and are wandering sans powers?

Fair enough though. There'd need to be incentives.

RebelVampire

but idk i mean could be possible

theres a lot of room for variety cause weve barely scratched the present day surface

Beedee

these are some good theories dang

mathtans

Also not sure how her perspectives will change... given how a few days can't wipe out decades of personality. Would need something monumental.

RebelVampire

i like to think shell at least come to view humans differently. or her role cause generally losing powers has the effect of humbling some one

QUESTION 3. The largest mystery presented in the story is why Eridu slept for so long. Who do you think forced Eridu (and her spirit aspects) away from the physical plane? What do you think the reasons were? Was it someone trying to do away with Eridu, or was it for some larger, greater good purpose? Does whoever Enki is have something to do with it? Or is Enki just some innocent bystander who was mistakenly identified as the one who created Eridu’s island? What do you think will happen when Eridu finally runs into Enki? Also, considering Eridu was already forced away from the realm, do you believe this could easily happen to her again? What is stopping the culprit from banishing Eridu back?

mathtans

(I think I'm belatedly realizing that's the creator. )

RebelVampire

lol thats okay math. yes @Beedee is the creator

mathtans

Losing powers can do that. I wonder if flying is a thing with other gods.

Beedee

haha yes I am~

mathtans

I feel like Enki is more an opportunist than the one who engineered everything or totally innocent. Though we've yet to meet him.

Kind of like the Wizard of Oz, in a way?

RebelVampire

i definitely think thats a distinct possibility. im on the page enki isnt this malicious entity and i dont think enki is responsible for what happened to eridu

mathtans

I do feel like Goddess will get all up in his face though.

RebelVampire

but maybe enki is no one. maybe hes just some human who found the island and said "hey my dudes lets live here this island is great." and then as history usually goes stories got exaggerated and eventually a human of great deeds became a god

mathtans

Oooh, maybe. Like, he doesn't actually exist anymore but put lots of things in place so people wouldn't realize that. (Makes me think of some societies from Star Trek.)

RebelVampire

yeah or something. but i could go either way. or it could be a combo of both

either way i dont think enki is responsible

to me it seems more likely kur is responsible at this point

for kicking eridu out of the physical planes

cause he needed her for things later

tho its curious she doesnt remember getting kicked out at all

Beedee

I find it interesting that you both get a vibe that enki isn't responsible even though he hasn't shown up yet :0

mathtans

I guess I just feel like that's too obvious of a solution. Goddess blaming the person who's actually behind it. I expect a twist, like how there weren't originally humans on the island.

I hadn't considered Kur as having a part in it. That's interesting.

Beedee

heh, fair

mathtans

Crazy theory time, the Priestess human is actually a God in disguise!

RebelVampire

yeah im with math. enki is the obvious choice. thus more likely a red herring. which could be wrong. maybe enki is all bwahahaha i have taken over

the priestess was responsible!

mathtans

Who has lost her memory and forgets.

Enki could also be the one behind it, but he was told to do it by Kur, or someone else.

Incidentally, I like the map feature. That's clever. Tracking the path over the island.

Beedee

ahh thanks!

mathtans

(I mean, story guide, not really a feature, but still.)

I often go to those pages, I'm rubbish with names.

RebelVampire

even if i remember the names i love those sorts of pages for spellings. cause i read a lot of comics and its hard to remember how to spell everyone's name even if i know what it is XD

mathtans

That's fair. Also neat how it's being developed over time.

RebelVampire

i like to think the reason eridu was sent away was not to do away with her. like maybe eridu did something bad she doesnt remember (or didnt consider bad). like flood some other god's island that got too close to hers. only that island was heavy populated already.

mathtans

Oh, that's a thought. Or maybe someone else did something bad and she wanted to forget it. Said sleep until I don't remember, didn't realize that'd take a few centuries.

RebelVampire

QUESTION 4. Eridu’s arrival seems to coincide with several “coincidences” within the story. Why was the Dragon-God Kur also slumbering for at least 1000 years? Is it somehow related to Eridu, or was it for a separate reason? Why has Kur woken up early? Also, what is Ekka making for Kur that he even goes to the effort of sending Eridu to help get it? Further, we see a few other gods talking about Kur. Why is Shulsa seeking out Kur so desperately? What exactly could go “badly” that Zida leaves to prepare for it? Also, who is Daiard looking to settle a score with? Lastly, why do you think the priestess of Enki was conveniently near where Eridu crashed? Was that just a coincidence, or was she there for a related reason to Eridu?

Beedee

good question

mathtans

Kur forgot to hit the snooze alarm. Or whatever the equivalent is. (Oh, maybe that's what they were bringing to him...) I'm also not sure what to make of the interlude. Does make it clear that there are other Gods around, the Priestess wasn't making things up or delusional or something.

Maybe Enki told the Priestess to go there because of all the vegetation.

RebelVampire

i think the interlude does kind of prove other gods are around.

now that im thinking of it

mathtans

Yeah, helps to flesh out the island.

RebelVampire

kur just woke up from a 1000 year slumber and the first thing he does is to sit down and kind of take a nap before eridu shows up

which i identify with

maybe the 1000 years is just normal for kur

thats just how long he sleeps

his 8 hours so to speak

Beedee

I will quickly say: yeah that's just how long he sleeps

mathtans

I kinda got that impression from the fact that they knew when he'd be awake. More or less.

Though it could have been a prophecy or something.

RebelVampire

man i wanna sleep for 1000 years

so jealous

mathtans

Incidentally, I liked how Kur was built up to be this ancient amazing entity, worthy of awe, only to have Paradise say, yeah, nevermind that nonsense.

Beedee

haha

at the end of this session, if you are up for spoilers, I'd actually be willing to show the WIP last panels of this chapter for a short amount of time. it explains some of Kur and Ekka's deal haha

mathtans

Aw, it's not Ekka and the Goddess jumping on a mattress?

Beedee

maybe in a side comic lmao

mathtans

I was amused by the reaction to the failed stripping too.

RebelVampire

i enjoyed eridu's disappointment that they werent gonna have sex. just cause it was so blunt. XD

mathtans

Like, ow, my chest. And yeah, that upped the rating, I think

RebelVampire

maybe daiard also hates enki. cause to me the obvious choice is eridu. so im gonna go with enki. everyone is gonna join forces and go after enki

and enki is gonna be like "hey friends would yoou like some tea"

Beedee

haha

to be honest

mathtans

Enki, actually God of Tea.

Beedee

daiard was a dumb callback to the beginning of chapter 2, that became worldbuilding(edited)

mathtans

New crazy theory: Goddess actually ends up putting herself to sleep in the past because the divine can mess with space-time.

RebelVampire

thats brain hurting

Beedee

oh gosh

mathtans

It was all a plan to help her become more grateful, or something.

RebelVampire

hmm, this actually makes me remember that eridu thought shed been sleeping to recharge. maybe there is no villain. maybe eridu just overexerted herself to the point she forced her own self back

shes gonna go on a long quest only to find out she was the villain all along

Beedee

future Eridu goes back in time to punch herself in the face

(thisisajoke)

mathtans

Hah! I could see that though, like "shape up, self".

Also, recharging could be a thing. Maybe she just needs a good nap to be able to fly again too.

RebelVampire

nope this is canon now. future eridu very wise. /shot

i hope she finds the flying having divine aspect soon and gets her powers back. cause man those inner sanctums seem really inconvenient to navigate

cause i dont think ekka's was any better than amun's

ekka's was just more convenient cause a plant taxi picked eridu up

Beedee

true

the sanctums are all awful to navigate on foot

but I like drawing environments lmao

RebelVampire

they are beautiful environments too. i really enjoy the contrast between ekka and amun's sanctums

mathtans

Anyway, this comic does hit a lot of the things I enjoy, from an interesting narrative style to great environments... and some romance too. (edited)

Beedee

thank you ovo

mathtans

Maybe Ekka and Priestess are the real ship.

RebelVampire

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