#idk stresses and falses ship name

[battscalamity]

i made these at like 2am idk man

theres more then this but ill post them later im lazy

edit: i made more here (hope the link works)

[riacte]

i never really paid attention to it but wow false and ren. they really do hover around each other huh. they r like bugs

Hiii anon thanks for the ask <3 I'll use this to talk about them and them in fanon because I have thoughts woooo (and I'm vibrating with excitement because I'm listening to the HC Grand Prix at the same time)

You said it exactly— like we all know they're buddies and stick together, but most of the times, we don't really notice it because it's just natural. Nondescript even. Like of course their pixels are next to each other in the background. Of course they're hanging out. It's not flashy or anything, they're just there.

[long and winding analysis that goes off in a Direction, will definitely not be maintagged, mentions of shipping and the fandom's worst enemy (comphet / heteronormativity)]

Pairing up

They're like those anime characters who are fully fleshed out individually, but for some reason, their screentime is tied together and they're always shown next to each other. That was actually my first impression of them back when I only watched Grian in HC6 lmao, every time Grian flew over the fantasy district he would casually go "that's False and Ren's bases" and my brain was like "hmm new names :) idk who they are but they stick together :)". Like you know when you're new to an unknown cast of people so you try to comprehend and memorise them as efficiently as possible? And so you start sorting the cast into duos / groups so it's easier to remember them? That was me trying to compartmentalize the hermits in HC6. Grian + Mumbo. Iskall + Stress. Scar + Cub. Joe + Cleo. ZIT. False + Ren.

It did not help that from Grian's POV, there was a part in the civil war arc when he collabed with False to prank Ren because they thought he'd pranked her and so my brain was like "weeewoooo I still don't know who False and Ren are but they continue stick together, and that's convenient for my internal sorting :)))". And that mutual association genuinely never stopped lmao (it only got worse).

Shared audiences?

I've talked about this on privtwt: False+Ren as a fanon duo (like duo Duo as in desert duo) is strangely niche even though they do stuff together all the time and they're both fairly popular on their own. And there is so much intermingling between their audiences— I know this is the case for all hermits' audiences, but it seems especially obvious between their audiences. I know in a stream Ren said he met up with False and they had a discussion like years ago about the two of them hosting a meet and greet with fans in a restaurant (that didn't happen) and internally I was like "yeah, that'll only work if they have a solidly integrated fanbase so no one feels left out in the restaurant WAIT. That's literally what's going on here".

Funny how when I was writing this, an anon sent an ask about Ren's chat basically being full of False emotes LOL. Integrated audience kinda real <3 like, even if you only watch one of them and don't actively watch the other, you still know and think of the other fondly.

Different styles? And sticking together

Actually outside of yayyy fun minigames, to me at least they have quite different styles + ways of presentation? Which feels slightly different from the above duos I mentioned? So I totally understand why people only main one of them and don’t watch the other (but still aware of the other obviously). In terms of taste and personal preference, I’ve been here long enough to know what loyal False mains generally like and what loyal Ren mains generally like. (Like, very verrrry generally.) Ren’s the dramatic roleplay storyteller and False is like, sneaky and shifty and has a wry sense of humour. They’re both funny and charming in different ways. I would say Iskall and Stress have similar presentations (“aha? AHA?”) even though they excel at different things. Cub and False are also similar to me— competent and cool people who are nonchalantly chaotic. And we all know Ren and Martyn’s instant chemistry and their similarities. It’s why a lot of Ren fans gravitated to Renchanting and Rendoc for their dramatics and flirting in the way some False fans gravitate to Fress and Falseren for the fun/mildly hysterical/teasing/sweet/pranking moments.

BUT

False and Ren bounce off each other well— it’s the playful tension and the sudden mutual whiny energy like “noooo don’t leave me🥺” but they start hitting each other 0.5 seconds later. And of course the mutual clinginess. I know people have made jokes about how they’re both smart and competent people individually but when they get together they suddenly become the silliest sillies and share one braincell <3 and I know people (read: mutuals in my DMs) have joked about Ren’s currently extremely obvious bias for her (it's as big as the BRR sign I swear 😭) and the usual “orbiting around each other group recordings”. Compared to other duos, they don’t get paired together bc of similar presentations / style. They get paired together because of the chemistry and they share so many moments lol.

Tldr: they make for entertaining on-screen interactions. It’s fun watching them rotate around each other and punch each other off things. And they do this so much that 1) everyone’s aware of it 2) everyone’s used to it.

Branding? (Or the lack of it)

Last I checked, their tag has 46 fics on Ao3 and 16 of those fics are from me (I love being spiders georg). As with every pair that's not the juggernaut pair, realistically the actual number of fics that actually focus on them is less than what we see. And you know how sometimes for the "niche" pairs, there's more ship fic than platonic fic? (Actually I think for most pairs, there's more ship fic than platonic fic.) That's also not it, they don't even have 20 ship fics. Like clearly, the current fanon interest in them is not ship motivated versus *gestures to whatever is happening in the general shipping chaos post 2021*.

What I concluded is that they lack the kind of branding that for example Convex possesses. I think it's kind of because... they're an ubiquitous constant throughout the years. They don't need a storyline or a named group to tie themselves together. No matter what they're doing, no matter what characters they're playing, no matter which servers they're on— they just kind of stay in each other's orbits. But they don't play it up or anything like hashtag SHIPrendoc or Renskall or whatever. They don't even have a proper fanon name ffs (outside of fairy pirate grotto or whatever in HC6).

(Although imo this is likely to avoid comphet irl shipping because God forbid a man and a woman are friends :))))) heteronormative irl shipping / truthing was an annoyance for years (pre the HC6 boom). But strangely enough, modern anti hermitshippers on Twitter rarely bring up the real problem of truthing in public comments and instead target people making Scarian fanart in a small corner or whatever. When many cases of Compulsory Heterosexuality literally exist in YouTube comments. But I digress.)

Ren and False are just there, pranking each other and basing together and playing five million minigames and being casually supportive of each other. Like, their biggest shared "storyline" that left a strong impression on fans / converted fans was probably MCC9. We all still talk about it today the way Ren and Martyn still talk about 3L Renchanting. And MCC9 was in 2020 when they'd already done a lot of stuff together prior to that (eg. literally being neighbours in HC6).

And the thing is, they do collab semi-frequently. In like every Hermitcraft season. In recent memory, we've got the Blue River Raceway of course, but we also get those pranks and minigames and random silly interactions like Ren breaking into False's eagle and False pranking him at her elytra race. It doesn't need to be big and theatrical in classic Ren fashion (I remember the Renbob / Falsewell storyline in HC6; her nonchalance and confusion was so funny in contrast to Renbob's hippie demeanor).

And I kind of like the way they've kind of (?? or not???) escaped from the intense duo-ification from the fandom. Okay, to be fair, I know I am the worst offender of the duo-ification of them (with my desperate do not separate agenda), and maybe I've had a negative effect on the fandom, so feel free to throw me off my soap box. I remember how hermitblr as a collective suddenly lost it when they split in MCC17. We took them for granted, we all got to used to them being together, we got used to seeing them in the background, and then suddenly they’re not??

So we’re all kind of aware of them. But it’s not a terribly big thing…. until it is.

It's the same on the M/CC Reddit. Everyone knows they're iconic. But nobody makes a post about how we need more False and Ren duo interactions because they already interact a lot. It's just a natural constant. They don't really need a spotlight because they're just... here doing funky cute friendship stuff.

But if they ever, for some reason, become a mainstream duo on twt in its mainstream duo way with some [insert random noun] duo name, I will be so 🫠😒🔥💥🔥💥. But I literally cannot see this happening unless they team with Grian / Grian adjacent people in Life series. But even then I think they’re kinda exempt because everyone’s so used to them lol. It’s not like a shiny new uwu duo. It’s like how Stresskall is just Stresskall. Or Jleo.

(Actually, speaking of Stresskall, the entire Stress-Iskall-Ren-False group would make for an interesting fanon discussion bc it’s essentially made out of very solid and fan favourite duos. But not now. Team FRIS my absolute beloved though.)

Also, thinking about the ensemble HC fics I've read and how they're just casually kind of chilling in the background. Ren is usually paired with Doc (both platonic / romantic) but False is usually somehow mentioned in a passing comment. Same with False who's usually with the Hermitgals in ensemble fics, but there's also passing comments about her hanging out with Ren. Again, it's just a natural part of the background. Trivia that's sprinkled in between.

And that's why I think I'm so 🥺🥺🥺🥺 because it doesn't need to be big and grand... it's all the little moments <3 they have such a fun and playful dynamic and all the love for minigames <3

I don’t know if this is comprehensible or I’m just going crazy and overthinking things no one thinks about. But writing this was fun at least <3 If at least one person gets maybe 30% of this post (whatever it is), I'll be happy haha.

Post sponsored by the three people who liked my tweet from months ago 🥹

[hmshermitcraft]

🐾 anon

ooo i’ll prolly participate in event if i’m able ^^, i already have a few unfinished wips i can finish up and post for the event, ill prolly be doing doc/renbob, a few ren ships like ren/false and ren/stress, bdubs/cleo and a few impulse ships like gem/impulse and stress/impulse, most of them will be posted on sunlightfilledlotus considering that’s my nsfw ao3 account while my non nsfw stuff will be going on moonlightfilledlotus if that’s fine ^^ (i just like having two separate accounts for nsfw and fluff, for whatever reason i don’t like having my nsfw stuff and fluff stuff on the same account idk why)

If you do make sure list it on the google docs, there’s a section at the top where everyone can put the ao3 account names and ships that they are doing. Everyone should have access to edit the doc so dw about not being able to put your info. You can do the same ship multiple times if you want to

[literaphobe]

Two questions:

1. What do you feel about CorpsexSykunno ship?

I feel like it's MarkiplierxJacksepticeye all over again, starts out innocent and turns uncomfortable.

(Also I think real people shipping is gross in general)

2. Dream smp makes me so nervous, not necessarily because of any of the members but due to (1) the history of online teams dominated (and lead) by male influencers, (2) minecraft youtube's general history of exploiting fans. I feel like it's going to end badly. You seem to be enjoying it tho, and it's definitely up my alley, should I get into it?

1. Corpse and Sykkuno are not comfortable being shipped! Neither of them are okay with being shipped with ANY of their friends in general, so like, don’t do it, or if u do like. i guess just don’t say anything about it? it’s really not hard to just enjoy their friendship. like it’s an endearing friendship n there’s nothing wrong w liking it. but. nothing more u know. plus both of them have made it clear on several occasions that they’re both straight and my gaydar agrees JFKDKDK like they’re just. Friends. Who care about each other :)

I definitely think it’s not like the markiplier x jacksepticeye situation, because for one u have jack himself telling people not to ship etc etc and also BECAUSE of that u have people actively policing any form of shipping. it’s honestly gotten to the point where it’s annoying but i genuinely don’t think it’s that big a problem, plus the rising popularity of the amigops puts less pressure on one-on-one corpse + sykkuno interactions, since people now wanna see all four of them play games together n not just corpse n sykkuno!

2. I get why Dream SMP would make u nervous. An interesting thing I realized when I started finding out more about people on that server is that there’s marginally more poc on it than I previously thought and also A LOTTTTT more lgbt+ people than i previously thought. Like genuinely why are so many of u so gay. And like that affects the stories being told obviously. Like. I don’t think it’s perfect n I don’t follow EVERY person on the SMP, just like i obviously don’t know everything about every minecraft YouTuber like fkdkdkdk i would say the only people i watch are dream, george, quackity (and even then i haven’t seen most of quackity’s YouTube videos) and like I’ve seen a couple of tommyinnit’s videos Fjdjdjdj and sapnap obviously but he has like 10 videos and i watch Karl’s streams if certain people are on it. yeah i think that’s about it like i do like the feral boys (dream george karl quackity sapnap) and i have seen maybe one or two skeppy videos

Anyway I get ur concerns about online circles dominated by male influencers too. but quite frankly compared to past circles ive seen its genuinely not that bad and also. In terms of holding them accountable, I think mcyttwt makes VERY sure of that (which honestly has devolved into a problem. because privileged haters will dig up stuff on creators that either a. has been addressed properly or b. is just. several years old and i don’t like how minorities are being weaponized. also i cannot stress how little i care that some minecraft YouTuber said the r slur 10 years ago when they literally never do it now. like. i worry so much because so many of these stans who think they’re ‘educating’ are just wearing themselves out n burning themselves out. so many of them are minors too)

but like. the people i am kept up w definitely do take responsibility and accountability. like dream especially gets accused of stuff that’s either fake/not him or something that’s just like out of this world (e.g. accused of queerbaiting. w george. interestingly no one ever accuses george directly of doing this) and no matter what he like addresses it properly and accordingly. like looking at his journey as a creator over the past year he’s grown a LOT and changed so much and matured a lot and i think like. looking at how much he’s blowing up and how much more of a following he’ll gain. I feel much better that it’s him who has this following as compared to. Certain people. And like. It’s upsetting to see how a lot of people have this impression of him that’s objectively false? Due to all the fake stuff that gets spread by haters (most often white for some reason???)? Because genuinely he’s not the creator we need to be so worried about?

Anyway in terms of getting into mcyts in the dream smp. I knew who Dream was because he’s played among us w the amigops a lot n they all like him because he’s just a good natured amicable person. I vaguely knew who george was because of dnf n also people putting his stupid face on my tl all the time. I thought he was pretty n hated that I thought that. I don’t care anymore tho. Like what’s wrong w looking at pretty people. I deserve it. Anyway! I got into their videos through GEORGE first, funnily. I think Minecraft, But I’m Not Colorblind Anymore was the first one I watched and it’s very very good. It’s endearing because it’s George trying out colorblind glasses for the first time n he’s nervous but Dream is there with him to make him feel more comfortable. And also Dream is so happy n emotional (he talks about tearing up at the thought of George being able to see colors properly) and their friendship is just very endearing. The video starts w george taking a colorblind test and we find out he has protan colorblindness (severity: STRONG which makes them crack jokes about how George is SO strong 😤)

anyway these losers. Decide to test the colorblind glasses on colors in MINECRAFT because of course that’s the whole video and it’s really heartwarming to see George learn how colors look like again n Dream just being excited about it the whole time n then George taking the colorblind test again at the end but with the glasses on... n then u go on to watch more george videos but it’s the ANIMAL CHALLENGES. like George Speedruns Minecraft But His Friend Is (Insert Animal, This Animal Is Always Dream) and like...... yeah so I watched a bunch of George’s videos n I went onto dream’s channel out of curiosity

And i was like. What the fuck. These videos are so WEIRDLY named. What the fuck is Finale, Finale Rematch, Grand Finale???? But dream has adhd too and in hindsight I absolutely would’ve titled the videos in a similarly confusing way. Anyway dreams manhunt videos are...... a work of art. I swear to god like even if u don’t know jackshit about minecraft they are very entertaining and weirdly impressive.

Basically in Minecraft Manhunt: Dream has to beat the game, but his friends are there trying to kill him. If they kill him even ONCE, they win n the video ends. He’s allowed to kill them repeatedly though. Manhunt started with one hunter (George, to one’s surprise), then two hunters (Sapnap and George), three (Sapnap, George, BadBoyHalo), and now four (Sapnap, George, BadBoyHalo, Antfrost). The next stage is possibly 5 hunters but idk who is the fifth yet. Anyway the thing that’s so entertaining about minecraft manhunt is:

1) Dream’s Parkour & PVP skills, which he developed and trained over such a short period of time n got REALLY good, it’s satisfying to watch him do risky maneuvers n succeed, the ways he’ll jump from a high place but clutch w either water, blocks, horses, boats, scaffolding, etc, to escape from the hunters

2) Dream’s TRAPS, like he actually does research for possible plans n traps he could do to counter the hunters, since there’s so many of them and only one of him, and he can’t just fight them in combat exclusively, since he’ll lose eventually if he gets ganged up on. I won’t spoil any of his traps, but they’re very good and also very dramatic. It’s amazing

3) The banter and taunting!! The lies and tricks!! They’re all really close so it’s easy for them to crack jokes during a lull where neither party is engaged in a fight, they’re all on the same VC so they can potentially say stuff to trick each other, or they can hear the other team say stuff that gives them an edge

4) The editing. Like the pacing is incredible, and all the bgm used is SO good at setting the atmosphere n making things more tense n exciting etc. like “dream’s manhunt music” is honestly a meme at this point but he actually unironically uses it and it unironically makes the videos better. Also dream edits all the manhunt videos by himself!! he doesn’t hire editors to do it for him or anything

idk what else to say but yeah I watch most of dream n george’s YouTube videos and they’re in most of each other’s videos and I like their dynamic a lot!! Especially since they still have not met in real life but already know they want to like live together (forever, according to George), and it like reminds me of the friendships I have because most of my close friendships have been made online. And like. They remind me that online friendships aren’t actually inferior. That’s it :) sorry this is so long

[thebirdwhodoesart]

♤Full name♤

Elizabeth Eloise Hart

♤Age♤

27

♡Birthday♡

October 10th, 1992 (Libra)

♤Gender♤

Female

♤Pronouns♤

She/her

♤Sexual preference♤

Heterosexual, heteroromantic

♤Species♤

Human, mortal

♤Personality♤

Liz is quiet but will chime in her subjective opinion, not very talkative. She would rather speak when spoken to. Naturally cruel, violent, and temperamental. She has problems with her pride and sex drive, because it never stops. Though she's not up for a long term relationship, she'd rather hit and quit it, due to having various trust issues. Hellbent on any kind of revenge, but she can be kind at times. She has too mainly lure victims into a false sense of security, but there are people she actually likes, but a very few amount.

♤Looks♤

Her features are sharpish, resembling Meg's from Heracles slightly, a split eyebrow, short messy black hair, blue eyes, 5'3, and curvyish (with the slightest gut but still on the skinny side, with a 22C Cup), a burn on the side of her neck, a rose tattoo up her left arm, she wears black slightly baggy jeans with a black and white scarf used as a belt, a gray tank top with rubbed in blood stains (because she got mad at it, trying to get them out, saying fuck it), usually under a black oversized sweatshirt, black combat boots, bandages around her hand, her mask resembles the muses of comedy and tragedy, comedy is white at the base, with the accents being black, whist tragedy has a black base and has white accents (half n half), has several scars all over her body from alterations with stronger and bigger victims

♤Addictions♤

-Smoking Cigarettes

-Alcohol

♤Weapon♤

Usually something- anything on hand, loud or quiet, doesn't matter, if she can't find anything she beats em to death

♤Family♤

Vincent Hart - Father

Status: Alive

Occupation: Murderer, partial baker

Audrey Jones - Mother

Status: Alive

Occupation: Freelancing Murderer - retired

Daniel Hart - Younger brother (Liz is two years older then him)

Status: Alive

Occupation: Freelance Murderer and Poison dealer on the black market

Malachi Fitzgerald - Half younger brother

Status: Alive

Occupation: None currently, still going through school

Elena King- Grandmother (mother's side)

Status: Alive

Occupation: Black widow, currently working on getting rid of husband number six

♤Ships♤

-TicciRow (Ticci Toby x Elizabeth)

♤Bio♤

She lived with her parents that weren't very nice to each other, as Audrey and Vincent barely knew each other when Liz was born, (because Vincent couldn't pass up a one night stand with a sleazy bar singer who called herself "Mademoiselle Two face" aka Audrey, at like 18. And Vincent couldn't swallow his pride and run away when Audrey had Liz, so he was intent on marrying her, for the wrong reason though) and they disagreed on alot of things, making Vincent start to gamble and want Audrey to stay away by the time her brother came along, their relationship got slowly worse, so her grandmother (who was stupid rich but was an old crone (that has gone through six husbands[husband 3 was Audrey's father. Husband 1-5 are dead, 6 is in a coma due to food poisoning], and expected her daughter to make it on her own when she was 18, and since then Audrey didn't want anything to do with her) needed to get rid of a maid, and give Audrey a little less stress and Liz and Daniel weren't helping, mostly because Elena (Audrey's mother) wanted to insult her by giving her one of her maids to take care of Liz and Daniel, even though Nursie was out of her mind but only when she talked. Liz was taught alot of shit, like how to clean blood off a surface while teaching her how to cook, but little of that info she has retained,at the age of seven she started getting into brawls on the playground with the other kids in her class, for pure fun, despite other parents calling her a hellion for beating other kids up, even though she got battered herself, Audrey encouraged her daughter to continue to let her fight, her and her brother were on track for a few weeks

Vincent said fuck it after his debt was piling up, so he hiked his skirt up and got out of dodge, he was wanting to take Liz and Daniel with him but getting both of them up at the time he was going, was impossible, seeing Liz started to have bad migraines like her father, and light exasbated it, and Daniel could be standing up and fall asleep, and their mother. When she was 12, two men, pretending to be the repair men, tampered with the gas stove they had, as payback for Vincent not paying his gambling debts, causing a fire, Liz and Daniel got burned but only the crooks of their necks, but Audrey wasn't so lucky, half her face was burnt, seeing as she always had her wavy black hair covering her left eye, and it had caught fire there, after they were released from the hospital all of them poorly treated their burns mainly because they couldn't afford the supplies, so it was just the bandages and pain meds.

When she was fourteen, and now living in Quebec, Canada instead of Anaheim, California, Liz started to talk with a boy, Owen and his friend Jane, Liz dated Owen for a while, but there was no communication between them, so he started annoying Liz with his silence when she's trying to get advice for a situation, but he dumped her because she talked too much, and he wanted someone alot more quiet, but Jane stayed friends with Liz, when she was fifteen, she dated a douchebag that berated her for saying no to anything, especially if it put a dent in his ego, since Liz thought that kind of relationship was normal, as she grew up with a great example of a toxic relationship, Daniel had to intervene, but Daniel gets over powered, Liz broke her ex's nose, a month after she turned sixteen, she met her half brother Malachi, and her friend Jane talked her into going to a rave with her, which she met her last boyfriend, Logan, the son of the owner of the club, and let's say, Liz didn't trust him alone, and that distrust was validated after she found him cheating on her

And how she reacted, she basically grabbed Daniel's baseball bat and bashed both their brains in, and in the middle Audrey walks in, impressed but now she had to help Liz hide the bodies, after they buried the bodies, she let Liz and Daniel live in her mother's vacation cabin, giving Liz her mask, then started to train her when she turned 17, and once she turned legal (18), she caught wind of some fuckery from the man who sent his goons to burn down her childhood home, she goes, seduces him (disguising herself as a red head Russian lady), kills him (getting a little carried away with stabbing him with her swiss army knife), then burns down his home.

♤Other♤

-Allergic to peanuts

-Can't swim

-She was a cheerleader for the short time she was in highschool, because her mother is stubborn and won't take no for an answer

Art Credits-

[ask-kurt-wagnerandrpwithhim]

#yo the point isn't about redeeming him: he's still bad nobody said otherwise. it's not about liz's age either like idk how you got there the hell. if the only parent is charged in a case, the kids go to the closest relative. because johnny isn't legally her dad and loki's on earth they gotta stay among jotuns AKA liz's dad. the guy can still lose and have liz charged for something. that's how trials work. that's what could happen here if johnny comes#

After writing this all out I realize I should have just listed all the legal loopholes Liz could use, all the ways she hasn't actually done anything wrong in the eyes of the 9 realms laws, and the fact that as I presume we are basing it off earth laws we know of Lizzy technically can't get into legal trouble unless Odin decides to punish her for... literally anything, really, in many countries there are laws specifically for pissing off the monarch to the point of treason still... maybe this all would have been easier had I chosen to go that route, but I wanted at least one form of a monarchy to hold it's royals legally accountable for shit... anyways, it's a long read to follow.

Laufey is dead, as in most iterations of the comics and in the movies, it has been stated that all of Loki and Liz's other biological siblings are dead on this blog before, and Liz's mom is a cat and those only live for about 15 years I think, so other than Loki she has no biological family the kids could go to, save for some super distant cousins maybe. So, either the children would have to go to Loki or, by your logic since you're right Johnny has not filled out any paperwork to adopt Lizzy, they would go to a trusted advisor of the Jotunhiemn royal family, but when you bring into the mix how abused Lizzy was growing up I don't think any Jotun advisor would be trusted, so they would go to the care of the next royal family willing to care for them.

I've exhausted all my knowledge of how pressing charges against someone works, and the only laws she's broken thus far are as follows: illegal immigration to Earth and maybe assuming a false identity if you squint really hard, the lines on that in regards to a royal faking being a normal person aren't really... there... as it doesn't usually happen, and she hasn't stollen any identities or lied about her name, she just didn't tell anybody she's a princess and even Kurt, who is friends with Loki, did not connect the dots on Liz's last name. So, in a court setting, she could be charged with one thing and the usual punishment for that is a fine and deportation, isn't it? So, he wouldn't be getting much out of insisting charges be pressed for that, especially when you take into consideration that she's blind and stumbling through a shortcut between worlds was a little too easy.

Now, he could insist charges be pressed on whoever has been running Jotunhiemn in her absence because they clearly knew she was on earth, as I have had her state openly that she gets letters from Jotunhiemn inviting her to fancy royal galas and that she even attended a couple before the kids were born and they always brought her back to earth, but that's not exactly her fault, especially since she can't exactly navigate Jotunhiemn on her own -first time she tried she ended up on earth - and she hadn't been there for years. Someone would have had to assist her. And it's not like the 5 foot tall runt who barely uses magic is going to intimidate the giants around her, so you can't even really claim she was demanding they take her back to earth.

The reason I brought up her age is because I was under the impression with all the custody talk that part of the court hearing was going to be a custody battle of some sort, whether it be that she was unfit to be a mother or he was going to demand custody if he got away with being on earth unannounced.

And lastly, it's been shown in the movies and displayed in the comics that shortly after someone who is not meant to be on earth shows up on earth via magical means, or even normal means and simply possesses magic, Strange knows and is deciding if they are a threat or not and how to deal wjth the situation. In the movies this is displayed rather aptly, presumably Loki and Thor had only beem on earth for all of 5 to 20 minutes, depending on how far away from the bifrost landing area picked they needed to walk to get to the nursing home, I would assume not very far but it's New York so foot traffic could have affected that. Loki is suddenly magically yoinked from the sidewalk and Thor is left with a business card that essentially tells him exactly where to go. Strange explains to Thor upin his arival that it's his job as sorcerer supreme to keep track of magical threats and Loki is high on that list but there are obviously magical threats not on the list, if the list is a real thing, just like there are threats to every day life that don't immediately come to mind when you think "in what ways could I possibly die within the next hour?" So, obviously, part of being The Sorcerer Supreme is keeping track of all magical happenings om your planet or in your reality, depending on what cannon you go with, as in some Marvel properties Strange is literally in charge of the magical safety of the very universe he is in, such is the case of Superhero Squad. Strange also showed up pretty quickly to slap the cuffs on Lizzy's ex, who I had not openly stated how long he had been there but tried to imply it wasn't very long as Liz texted Kurt about the situation the moment the fire was set. And even if he had been there long, the moment he became a threat to others Strange was clearly allerted as again he showed up very quickly. So, if Strange is to keep track of all magical happenings on Earth he would have noticed Lizzy when she first arived if he had been given the job by then, if not The Ancient One would have been notified and they, in the comics and movies, are very vigilant almost to the point of paranoia if they weren't proven right about almost everything they warn others about very shortly after warning them, and since Lizzy was never payed a visit by any sorcerer supreme before her house was burnt down we can guess she wasn't seen as a threat of any kind. Since the sorcerer supremes job is to keep track of such things and individuals then we would be able to draw the conclusion that simply being on earth isn't enough to make the sorcerer supreme intervene, however if we go with the idea that simply being on earth unannounced is an issue then the sorcerer supreme of the time she came to earth would be at blame too, since they didn't let anybody know or do anything about it.

All in all, Loki is the only known biological family option if the kids get taken away, Lizzy is likely too young to be at fault for anything Johnny does in the eyes of the laws of the realms, whoever has been running Jotunhiemn in Lizzy's absence is in deep shit for sending her back to earth, the sorcerer supreme at the time likely knew Lizzy showed up in earth out of the blue and did nothing about it, and Lizzy has only actually broken one law which in every iteration of Marvel cannon Thor and Loki have done at least once each but didn't actually get in trouble for on Asgard as usually its banishment and on earth we don't know why nobody does anything about it, so clearly people from other realms and planets dropping on in and setting up camp isn't a big deal in the eyes of the world governments, just when other humans do it. The result we get from this is Lizzy probably can't be charged with anything, Loki is the most likely to get custody of the kids unless rules are different for royals and royal parents get to choose who they sign cutody off to, which is likely the case even on earth, and if Lizzy being on earth is such a big, illegal deal then at least 2 other people are going to be in trouble and she's likely going to get off scott free because, and I can't stress tbis enough, she is a blind abuse victim who had no clue when she got to earth that she was on another planet and nobody sent her back or brought her back when they totally could. Also, since I'm borrowing heavily from Earth court stuff I could have just said Lizzy doesn't even have to be a part of the trial at all since she's a princess and her ex is a non royal nobleman and thus, by earth laws, she is above the law technically as no civil or criminal cases can be taken against members of a royal family here on earth in our reality, though they are still held to certain standards by whoever is above them, such as in England the Queen can punish another member of the royal family for breaking the law. In Lizzy's case, since her dad is dead, she would answer to Odin who is above all royals in all the 9 realms as stated in all comics, movies, and in the myths as well, and seeing as Odin has banished his own sons to earth in many realities, including this one so I have an excuse to ship Thor and Jane, I doubt he would say a damn thing about Lizzy staying on earth. I may seem off the rails, but I promise I know what I'm doing with this. My mother raised me on loopholes and common legal misconceptions because of family history. I know how to weasel myself and my characters out of trouble while still obeying the law to the letter. For instance, a judge will usually allow something that should definitely not be used as evidence based on the fact it's been used before and thus has a "legal president" and they don't actually question if it proves anything or not. Lizzy can't be charged with anything because it's rather common for people from the other realms to go to earth and everybody knows Loki and Thor aren't from earth. Her ex can be charged with attempted regicide, abuse, attempting to force Lizzy into a relationship due to her age and the likelihood that legally in 8 of the 9 realms she is still a child, and possibly even more than that. Lizzy may have to sign custody over to Loki, but I doubt that's gonna do much. The worst possible outcome for Liz: Loki also ends up with legal custody of Lizzy due to her age.

[alyseofwonderland]

Alyse Watches Turn -a series of live reactions

started watching Turn its stressing me out, people just fucking giving out their names

Jamie Bell being a bit of an idiot

all of it is so like, straight forward and i want them all to realize they need to be way more cloak and dagger

WHY DO THE REBELS HAVE UNIFORMS

old school fighting is so weird, stresses me out

oh my god they just pulled a body out of a barrel of.... what exactly?

Jamie Bell is now a spy for both sides, my idiot son

okay the most brilliant thing just happened. it was at the end of a scene but some guy is just like "WHOSE SHEEP ARE THESE?" and someone just calls out "the dog's mine" idk split my sides

okay am i supposed to be deeply amused by Simcoe because i am

no one can lie for shit and i am stressed

Oh-kay the spy civilization and Washington have shown up and they are relieving my stress

...... and i ship Ben/Caleb

*hyperventilating  oh no, abe and anna are being extra stupid

I see now why Ben is the fan favorite. he is the only one not stressing me

Caleb/Ben is like a true deep love

Abe is my idiot child like i love him but i need him to bring it down 4 notches at minimum

is Simcoe supposed to make me laugh? like every time?

Abe Woodhull "I'm going to do something unwise"

Ben is the least stressful member of this circle jerk. like right now he is just all "I must protect Dad-ington at all costs!"

Boyfriend Walking in from work: “Alyse, why is Scientist 2 from Pacific Rim dressed like that?"

Hewlett he is nerdy and i adore him i like his little thing with Anna right now where he is like "um, yes, hi, you see, you are a female, and i don't really, as the kids say, know any, and i was wondering if you might, on occasion, find time to speak to me, for purposes of speaking" and Anna is just like "am i covered in weird british catnip and no one has told me about?"

Townsend  to Abe "Make like a tree and LEAVE!"

is Abe now making a good impression on Townsend's dad, like a super nerd "i want to dat.... i mean turn your son" dad "permission granted"

i thought i just watched Abe make a good choice... false...Abe made a bad choice

SAD FLUTE MUSIC WHAT THE FUCK is this mother fucker actually just playing the god dman flute i don't want Loki-braid-look-alike and Goth-girl-from-lost-girl as a plot

Anna is just "i have no real idea how i keep doing this and i think i might be cursed"

Mary Woodhull Burner of Books of Men Who Wont Listen to Me, First of her name

[tempestuous-cosplay]

Flower Asks

Alisons: Sexuality?

Demi-romantic poly-pansexual.

Amaranth: Pronouns/Gender?

They Them non-binary 

Amaryllis: Birthday?

July 20!!!!! Gunna be 25

Anemone: Favorite flower?

Can’t choose. But its something blue, purple, or red. I really like Hydrangeas and Narcissus flowers.  

Angelonia: Favorite t.v. show?

Brooklyn 99, Avatar the Last Airbender, MeatEater

Arum-Lily: What’s the farthest you’d go for a stranger?

Depends on whats needed. 

Aster: What’s one of your favorite quotes?

ah, man, i don’t fuckin know. Probably the line “Change IS nature, dad, the part we can influence. And it all starts when we decide.” from ratatouille 

Aubrieta: Favorite drink?

Water, milk, then sprite. Unless we talkin booze, tequilla.

Baby’s Breath: Would you kiss the last person you kissed again?

ABSOLUTELY 

Balsam Fir: Have you ever been in love?

Yup. Would love to have that again one day, but not now. 

Baneberries: Favorite song?

Under My Skin by Jukebox the Ghost at the moment, but consistantly its Pierre by Rynn Weaver. 

Basket of Gold: Describe your family.

Better than some but has its issues. 

Beebalm: Do you have a best friend? Who is it?

I have 5 closest friends whom i LOVE and talk to with any regularity. 

Begonia: Favorite color?

PURPLE

Bellflower: Favorite animal?

DRAGON

Bergenia: Are you a morning or night person?

I like being awake in the morning bc then it feels like i have so much time to do stuff, but my sleep schedule always shifts to being a night owl.

Black-Eyed Susan: If you could be any animal for a day, what would it be?

a Kite or a hawk for all that fancy flying.

Bloodroots: When you were a kid, what did you want to be when you grew up?

A veterinarian, a puppeteer, or the next david attenborough. 

Bluemink: What are your thoughts on children?

I eventually want ONE, just one, of my own when I’m living with a community who will help me raise them. But really, i think too many people are having children who just should not be parents. 

Blazing Stars: What are you afraid of? Is there a reason why?

Being in love again bc the last times its happened I got traumatized.

Borage: Give a random fact about your childhood.

I always used to say i would never get tattoos and now i have one and plans for more. Ain’t gunna stop till im covered.

Bugleherb: How would you spend your last day on Earth?  

I would travel up to my friend @b-oredzoi and spent the day with her. She ain’t got a choice. 

Buttercup: Relationship Status?

Single but with some FWB situations goin on.

Camelia: If you could visit anywhere, where would you want to go?

anywhere outside continental US. Im not picky. Top choices Kyoto Japan, the french countryside, p much anywhere in africa.

Candytufts: When do you feel most loved?

when im tripping on acid or when my friends are hugging me real tight. 

Canna: Do you have any tattoos?  

YEAH, got one on my thigh. 

Canterbury Bells: Do you have any piercings?  

YUP, lobes and one cartilage 

California Poppy: Height?  

5′4 and hating every second of it. Wish i was taller. 

Cardinal Flower: Do you believe in ghosts?

100%

Carnation: What are you currently wearing?  

skill boxers stolen from an ex-friend and a shirt that im not 100% sure is mine??? but I’ve had it for a year and wear it all the time soooooooooooo. Mine now

Catnip: Have you ever slept with a nightlight?

I used to sleep with the closet light on until i was, like..... 14? 15?

Chives: Who was the last person you hugged?  

myyyyy mom prolly.

Chrysanthemum: Who’s the last person you kissed?

my pal Eli

Cock’s Comb: Favorite font?

something swoopy and pretty. Or the one thats just emojis. 

Columbine: Are you tired?

always

Common Boneset: What are you looking forward to?

getting top surgery and corona being over. 

Coneflower: Dream job?

philanthropist actor/ director. 

Crane’s-Bill: Introvert or extrovert?

ambivert. 

Crocus: Have you ever been in love?

We did this with balsom fir. anyway, yes i have been!!

Crown Imperial: What’s the farthest you would go for someone you care about?

depending on who they are, as far as they needed me to. I don’t THINK i would kill anyone, but there are a few people i would willingly die for. 

Cyclamen: Did you have a favorite stuffed animal as a child? What was it?

A green and purple dragon named Puff, who i still have. He’s always either in my bed or on a shelf in my room. 

Daffodil: What’s your zodiac sign?

Cancer

Dahlia: Have you done anything worth remembering?

Didn’t die. Helped stop my grans house from burning down. 

Daisy: What do you feel is your greatest accomplishment?

so far its getting my associates degree. Either that or dragging myself out of a horrible depressive, self destructive spiral in 2018-2019, getting the help i needed, and doing better for myself and those around me.

Daylily: What would you do if your parents didn’t like your partner(s)?  

figure out why and wither resolve it or dump the partner.

Dendrobium: Who is the last person that you said “I love you” to?

my dad prolly. 

False Goat’s Beard: What is something you are good at?

Crafty stuff. and animal trivia. 

Foxgloves: What’s something you’re bad at?

organizing anything, remembering dates, statistics. 

Freesia: What are three good things that have happened in the past month?

Got okayed for top surgery

got surprise money!

Got a sentimental piece of art from my grandparents (at long last.)

Garden Cosmos: How was your day today?

p solid. Helped my dad with some yard stuff, made a yummy dinner, saw most of the supplies i need for a new project shipped. 

Gardenia: Are you happy with where you’re at in your life?

mmmmmmm not really, but im getting there.

Gladiolus: What is something you hope to do in the next year or two?

Graduate, move out, get a good, fulfilling job. Travel some more. 

Glory-of-the-Snow: What are ten things that make you happy/you’re grateful to have in your life?

The friends who stuck around

my plushie collection

my tarot collection

my print collections from cons

finally having a queen sized bed

books

my pets (wow, almost forgot about them)

my fursuit making skills

my hair

my gently rising self esteem 

Heliotropium: What helps you calm down when you feel stressed?  

petting soft things, reading, watching Ghibli movies. 

Hellebore: How do you show affection?

all them love languages bro. Every single one. I tailor my affection to the individual and what love language they receive most.   Mostly, I cook for people.

Hoary Stock: What are you proudest of?

We’ve done this one too!

Hollyhock: Describe your ideal day.

Its a nice balmy 72 degrees with a nice breeze. The sun is shinning with some clouds here and there. I go to the zoo with some friends/ a friend and we just share random facts about our favorite animals. we get some cute plushies at the gift shop and then go to a wonderful meal, either greek or korean bbq or Pho and we go back to someones house to watch movies and vibe, sleepy, warm, and content. 

Hyacinth: What do you like to do in your free time?

read, craft, organize my room, draw, garden, swim.  

Hydrangea: How long have you known your best friend? How did you meet them?

I dont have a singular “Best friend”. I do have my Inner circle tho!

Laura- we met my freshman year of collage, first day and we click INSTANTLY. She’s my soulmate and I would go to hell and back for her (RIP to Orphius, but im different)

Bly- we met, like, back in 2014/2015 at house parties but didn’t really start getting SUPER close like we are now until, like, 2017/18/19 ish. Really the only person I actively talk to every single day, my mood twin. We share a braincell. 

Syd- we met at, like, Momocon 2014? 2015?? something like that???? bc we roomed together. We started getting close in 2016 by bonding over fursuit stuff. My go to roadtrip partner. I kinda owe my current joy for life to her bc she helped me through my hell time in 2018 but kicking my ass and teaching me how to make fursuits. 

Eli- we met at Dragon-Con through a mutual friend in 2014, but didn’t really get close until may of 2019. Now we’re p much partners in everything but title bc we just don’t have romantic feelings for eachother. We share a therapist and hang out at least 3 times a month.

Shane: We’ve been friends since, like, 2010 but started getting close in 2017 when they helped me get a job. Then we just,,, stuck around. They kick my ass to get out of the house and do stuff, or did before corona 

Sammi : Friends since 2010 when we were in highschool together. Our friendship was super rocky until we were in different schools and smoothed out as we aged and matured. They are the reason i got into conventions  and cosplay as a whole, so they have only themselves to blame for how I am now. 

Irises: Who can you talk to about (almost) everything?

Eli and laura. 

Laceleaf: How many friends do you have?

my inner circle is, like, 6 people, but friends as a whole like.... idk.... 20?

Lantanas: What’s the best compliment you’ve ever received?

“Your gender vibe, is, like, primordial. Its a perfect blend of masculine, feminin and things that are just indescribable.”

Larkspur: What do you think of yourself?

I hate myself, to be perfectly honest. But Im trying my best to be a good person and a good friend, so I don’t have to like me, as long as the people who matter do. 

Lavender: What’s your favorite thing about yourself?

I love my hair. Also how much better at communication i’ve gotten. 

Leather Flower: What’s your least favorite thing about yourself? 

my adhd and the social symptoms of that.  

Lilac: What’s something you liked to do as a child?

i liked swinging and listening to the sounds of shoes on carpet. Good stim time.

Lily: Who was your best friend when you were a kid?

I never really had a best friend for more than 2 years. They would always move away, So i don’t really have a solid “best friend as a kid.” Why yes, I do have abandonment issues. 

Lily of the Incas: What is something you still feel guilty for?

How my last relationship ended. I pulled some STUUUUUUUPID shit and never got to own up to it or hold the other person accountable for the harm they did to me. It was just overall horrible and never got any type of closure. Likely never will. But it be that way sometimes. 

Lily of the Nile: What is something you feel guilty for that you shouldn’t feel guilty about?  

My grandfather died last week and i feel........ almost nothing bc I honestly really did not like the man. He was horrible to me growing up and horrible to my mother while my grandmother was sick and dying. But he did a number of good things too. But I feel guilty for not mourning him more. 

Lupine: What does your name mean? Why is that your name?

I chose Sawyer bc when I was younger, I was very good at wriggling my way out of work and my mom and aunts would call me “Tom Sawyer”. I also just like Mark Twain and the name Sawyer in general. Feels good

Marigold: Where did you grow up? Tell us about it.

In the suberbs of atlanta in a nice house on the Chattahoochee river. I’m actually still living there while I finish school. 

Morning Glory: What was your bedroom like growing up?

Rosey wall paper and gross maroon carpet until 7th grade, when we painted it all blue and put in blue carpet. It was, and is, very VERY blue. Im gunna be painting 2 walls different colors soon.

Mugworts: What was it like for you as a teenager? Did you enjoy your teenage years?  

Miserable, tbh. A lot of shit happened when i was 16 that left me with a lot of trauma and issues that I didn’t really have the maturity or energy to deal with while in highschool on top of being queer and dealing with that. So it was a lot of fighting with parents, self loathing, and struggling in school. It had its beautiful wonderful moments that I love with all my heart, but for the most part it was just kinda rough. 

Norwegian Angelica: Tell us about your mom.

Georgia born and raised. She tries her best and is a wonderful mother, but we clashed a lot growing up bc she’s fairly neurotic and likes everything to be precise and orderly and perfect and im... ADHD so sometimes close enough is all you’re going to get. Growing up, i couldn’t communicate what was going on with me or happening in my head very well at all, and it caused a lot of tension. 

Onions: Tell about your dad.  

Hes from Bogota colombia and im almost a carbon copy of him. That means our issues with ADHD have a happen of blowing up at eachother. He’s horrible and constructive communication, but overall is sweet and funny and very very clever. My relationships with both of them are p okay nowadays with a few spats here and there that I will deal with when I don’t live with them anymore. 

Orchid: Tell about your grandparents.

I never met my paternal grandparents. My maternal grandfather died when I was 6 and i hardly remember him.

My maternal step grandfather was.... not a good man but he was interesting and incredibly smart and fairly liberal. So there was that at least. But, to be honest, I hated the guy.

My maternal grandmother was one of my favorite humans in the world. She spent her whole life a highschool science teacher. She was funny, witty, elegant, a fairly talented cook who always encouraged me in everything I tried. Im still dealing with some emotional stuff regarding her passing, but Im just always so glad i got to spend as much time with her as I did. 

Pansy: What was your most memorable birthday? What made it be so memorable?

haha shit. Maybe my 21? A bunch of friends and i went and hung out at a park then got hammered at my house after. 

Peony: What was your first job?

Working at the summer camp i went to as a kid. Debating going back if I ever can. 

Petunia: If you’re in a relationship, how did you meet your partner(s)? If you’re not in a relationship, how did you meet your crush/how do you hope to meet your future partner(s), if you want any?

I want my future partner to be a friend where things just, grew and blossomed. 

Pincushion: How do you deal with pain?

Emotional? I try to be constructive and communicative about who or what caused it and doing something productive to help deal with it.

Physical, i just ignore it until it goes away. 

Pink: Where is home?

Wherever Im going to sleep that night. 

Plantain Lilies: If you could go back in time, what is one thing you would stop/change?

When my ex broke up with me, I would have cut all ties all together instead of try the whole “we can stay friends” bullshit. I would have just “I don’t hate you, but If we aren’t going to be together, I can’t be friends with you until I’ve had some time to heal.”

Prairie Gentian: Who is someone you look up to? Describe them.

nope

Primrose: Describe your ideal life.

I’ve made my fortune and when I say things people listen, but I can also run away to my beautiful little homestead with my queer friends and wife and all our animals and children living together in a wonder queer commune. I get to travel twice a year and i never have to worry about money. 

Rhodendron: What is something you used to believe in as a child?

hmmmm. No idea.

Ricinus: Who’s the most important in your life?

can’t pick one person.

Rose: What’s your favorite sound?

wind chimes probably.

Rosemallows: What’s your favorite memory?

oh man, too many to choose. I’ve lived a wonderful life so far. 

Sage: What’s your least favorite memory?

Too many to choose. THe night I got dumped, my grandmothers funeral, my friends funeral, some others that I don’t wanna talk about due to triggers. bleah

Snapdragon: At this moment, what do you want?  

I want..... soup dumplings. 

St. John’s Wort: Is it easy or difficult for you to express how you feel about things?

Depends. really intense or personal feelings involving my depression or emotions is almost impossible to talk about. But my feeligns about films and stuff i have 0 issues talking about. 

Sunflower: What is something you don’t want to imagine life without?

Laura

Sweet Pea: How much sleep did you get last night?

idk, like 7 hours?

Tickseed: What’s your main reason to get up every morning?

School

Touch-Me-Not: How do you feel about your current job?

im.... technically self employed/ unemployed. I want a job tho. 

Transvaal Daisy: What’s your favorite item of clothing?

My killstar hoodie. 

Tropical White Morning Glory: Describe your aesthetic.  

Disaster gay.

Tulip: What would be the best present to get you?

A tarot deck

Vervain: What’s stressing you out most right now?

Corona virus. and money. 

Wisteria: How many books have you read in the past few months? What were they called?

The entire Heros Of Olymus series The lightning thief and Sea of monsters The trials of Apollo The last unicorn.

Wolf’s Bane: Where do you want to be in life this time next year?

ideally living with friends and one year away from graduation.

Yarrow: Do you know what vore is?

*sweats* yea

Zinnia: Give a random fact about yourself.

im a witch