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#idk how to say this without coming off as a hater but he was not the only main characteršŸ˜­
juhneenteagues Ā· 2 years
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Honestly just going through the Knives Out Glass Onion tag and Iā€™m not seeing enough posts/praise on Janelleā€™s performance as Helen/(Andi)
She did a PHENOMENAL job (as usual) so yā€™all better put some respeck on my girls name! (Are Janelleā€™s pronouns she/her? Iā€™m not 100% sure)
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fuumiku Ā· 6 months
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Chilcille huh... ngl I was a little suspicious. like why would you do that, huh... hope youre not mischaracterizing anyone in your weird and wacky ship. a little weird. but then you said they both had flat asses and you know what? I salute you and your perfect characterization
The fact you seem to think you managed to not make this ask insulting is baffling. What the hell. Fuck off.
If you actually care to be open minded about the ship, I talk about marchil on my sideblog 24/7. Funnily enough Iā€™m currently 4k words deep into an analysis of their character arc together in canon, but thatā€™ll take some more days to get done. Some notable posts:
Of course without counting the analyses of Chilchuck on his own Iā€™ve made, like my masterpost on his family situation. Or better yet you could also read my fics for them, see how weird and wacky they are here.
Wanna talk about mischaracterisation? Theyā€™re literally a comedic duo who interacts 24/7. Marchil is crazy bc ppl are like "did those shipper read with their eyes CLOSED?? They have no chemistry!" Meanwhile canon is like: "Sheā€™s obsessed with knowing everything she can about him and she reads him like a book." In her eyes heā€™s like that extra rare and hard and shiny unlockable dating sim character, that brooding mysterious character trope thatā€™s thrilling to crack open and typically is at the center of the plot. The wife roleplay???? "Hey, did you know his type is blondes. Hey did you know he likes his women pretty and blonde. Hey did you know he likes her hair. Hey did you know that he teases her 24/7 and itā€™s one of the few things that consistently gets him grinning because he finds her reactions cute." Like a schoolyard bully pulling on the pigtails of the girl he likes.
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Itā€™s not like they have any thematic narratives or relevance. Itā€™s not like sheā€™ll live to 1000 and has existential dread about it while heā€™s logically gonna be her next friend to die at 50 and wether itā€™s romantic or platonic itā€™ll terrify her to lose him. Itā€™s not like itā€™s fear of death x fear of rejection so theyā€™re both obsessed with the thought of loss looming, past and ongoing. Itā€™s not like itā€™s half-elf x half-foot and thereā€™s an inherent journey that was and still is to dispel prejudices and truly come to see each other. Itā€™s not like heā€™s painfully real and raw and flawed but still a good man, that heā€™s not the figure of prince charming that sheā€™s always dreamed of while still being virtuous and worth fighting for. Or you know, her hair being golden and it being the epitome of beauty to him, and his hair turning silver and it being Marcilleā€™s worst nightmare.
Just a weird wacky ship who means nothing but shallow things to people who have weirdo reasons for liking it. Like can you not. If youā€™re not imaginative enough to think of reasons why this ship may have an appealing dynamic thatā€™s not my issue. But yes, yes, theyā€™re both flat asses to me, thanks.
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sant-riley Ā· 1 year
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AAAAAAA IDEAAAAAAAAAH
Hi! I'm new here! I've come to bombard you with the idea of a parent of the reader's(most likely dad) showing up to the base out of nowhere.
Secret admirer,
-šŸ
Omg I have my first ever emoji anon, Hi!! And yes absolutely I love this. I'm gonna try and be neutral with the parent in question so it's open to anyone :)
P.S idk how I used to format this shit I'm not checking Lmfao
[Task force 141 reacting to your parent/s showing up out of nowhere to visit]
If we're taking into account that this Simon and the og Simon have the same backstory,, its safe to say he doesn't have fond memories of his dad, though he has some for his mother.
Depending on your relationship between you and your parent/s, Ghost is either gonna point blank tell them they're not welcomed here. While Price IS above him, he isn't afraid to pull the intimidation and rank card to get them to get the hell out of there. Ghost was abused by his dad, God fucking forbid you were EVER treated poorly and he finds out.
However, even if your parent is kind, he still is uncomfortable by them being there. It makes his chest feel heavy watching you interact and it just brings up bitter memories he much rather not think of, so he won't linger around and instead go to the gun range and wait it out. He cares for you, and unfortunately, it won't ever really transfer over to your parents. Best he'd do is a stern nod and be on his way.
Soap, however, is very happy to introduce themselves and your parent swoons over his accent and likes him immediately, even if they're not the greatest of parents, Soap will make it a point to put his best foot forward and ask them if they'd want a tour.
If your mom is present she immediately likes him and isn't afraid to give you a look with an eyebrow raise saying "why aren't you dating him?". Don't get me wrong, though. He's not afraid to make smart comments and then joke it off. He's protective but not in your face kinda way.
He's definitely the type to sigh with relief when they're gone, complaining about small things he disliked about them to you openly (a lil bit of a hater but his mom raised him to not be rude to his elders okay.)
Doesn't matter who your parents are, Price intimidates them. He's the captain, and from what you've told them, he is extremely good at his job and he's a no nonsense leader, but you also mention that he's kind and he'd never leave one of his own behind.
Price talks EXTREMELY highly of you, he isn't afraid to clasp a hand on your shoulder and smile that stupid smile of his while he looks down at you in admiration.
It'd be most likely that he himself would have invited your parents without your know how, he has the ties and the authority but trust and believe if you expressed any discomfort with it, he'd rectify it and send them on their way.
Your parents may not like how particularly you close you are with such an older man but it's obvious he cares so much for you and your safety, so they take peace in that.
Gaz is probably the most easy going out of the 4, casually making conversation and if your parents are the type to play match maker, he's their #1 choice I'm not sorry, it's the truth.
Gaz sings your praises, mentioning time and time again that you've been such a good help on base and a good comrade and friend and he will thank your parents for raising you. (Imagine him taking off his hat and holding it to his chest or tipping it what if I swooned)
You KNOW he's invited to family dinners if he's ever in the area, or if he has no plans for the holidays, he's welcome at the family home. (You tell him later that he doesn't need to feel pressured but he just ruffles your hair and asks what kind of alcohol your family prefers)
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bloodreddemons Ā· 8 months
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Hazbin Hotel Episode 7-8 (Finale) Hot Takes ~
I personally loved a lot of the Charlastor content in the beginning. So cute.
The deal Alastor purposed to Charlie was also very predictable. We already knew they were going to eventually make a deal but that deal in particular was just very predictable.
I think everyone knows this already but that "one little favor" that Alastor is going to ask of her is going to bite her in the ass. We don't know what he's going to ask but it's definitely gonna come back to haunt her.
She may even make a deal with him again possibly in the future, who knows.
I'm surprised Vaggie didn't know Angel's could be harmed or killed. Its weird that she also didn't know how to fight against one.
Rosie is a real gem and a wayyyyy better friend than Mimzy fucking is.
I love Carmilla & Vaggie's dynamic. I think they both are very much the same personality wise. I definitely can see Carmilla as a mother figure to her or at least a teacher to her, which she pretty much is.
To follow up, I loved Carmilla training Vaggie and helping her get her wings back. Out For Love was also really really good. I liked it a lot.
Never thought I'd hear Alastor call someone an old bitch but it was everything.
I knew Charlie was gonna forgive Vaggie regardless of anything but I love Auntie Rosie.
I didn't really like "Ready For This". I wish I did like it. Especially since it had Charlie, Alastor, & Rosie in it. Idk I liked Out For Love more.
Vox's commentary was funny asf but he's also such a hater. Not even a low-key one lmao.
The post-fight celebration and speech was actually very sweet. Although I wish there was more time and episodes that we could have seen more of the characters bond. I also wish there were more opportunities where we got to know them better.
I really thought Angel & Husk were gonna fuck this episode.
I wasn't expecting for Sir Pentious to say "I love you" to Cherri Bomb so soon and I also didn't need to know he had 2 dicks.
"More Than Anything" Chaggie version was pretty sweet. It'd be cool if there was a longer version idk if there is. They also kissed which was nice.
Adam & Lute are funny asf. Especially Adam. They may be horrible people but I just can't get over how funny they are. Even when they're about to massacre Charlie's people. Lol.
I wasn't expecting the war to be kinda epic. The shield that Alastor put up over the hotel kinda reminded me of the last Harry Potter. When they all put a shield around Hogwart's to protect everyone from the death eaters and voldemort.
Adam might just be the funniest character in this series dead or alive. Heaven or Hell.
It pisses me off how Charlie barely does anything in the fight. Like, this is her people and her fucking hotel as she keeps saying... yet everybody else but her is fighting. Wtf? Girl yo ass should be in Sloth.
I love Alastor & Adam's dynamic, their first impression of eachother is so hilarious. The fight between them was also very entertaining. I was really curious to see who would win.
I was actually kinda surprised that Alastor was defeated so easily. I honestly thought he was stronger than that, but tbh Adam is very powerful he's the fucking first man, extermination commander, and he already single handedly broke Alastor's shield.
People have pointed out Alastor's "normal" voice when his mic/staff breaks, because it's his voice without the radio filter. Imma be honest I wasn't that shocked at all, he just sounds the same to me, the radio filter just adds a cool effect.
Charlie really could have got tf up there and helped Alastor out. Idk if she thought he could handle himself or what but fuck.
SIR PENTIOUS KISSING CHERRI WAS AMAZING. WE WON. But then he "died"...
To follow up that sacrifice was anticlimactic at the same time. Mostly because of the way Adam just effortlessly zapped him out of existence.
I'm so disappointed in the "Charlie finally snaps" bit. I was literally dying to see this part in the series, where Charlie finally loses her shit and stands up for herself or whatevever....but it ended up being extremely disappointing and yet again, anticlimactic.
Charlie's transformation along with Razzle & Dazzle was kindaaa cool, however...her getting her ass kicked within like 0.3 fucking seconds was not. It was embarrassing for a demon of her status. I can understand Alastor, but seriously Charlie? You can't beat him? The clownery.
I loved the Vaggie & Lute fight. Let my girl Vaggie finally get her ones. Lute needs her ass beat disrespectfully for what she did.
Although...Lute was winning that fight, she was still holding her own and getting more hits in. I don't even think Carmilla's teaching's were working. Lmao damn. That bitch is fucking scrappy.
Vaggie should have just ended Lute. I know she's too good for that, but she really should have just killed that bitch. She left you for dead you should have just killed her.
Charlie stabbing Adam and standing her ground was badass, but that was kinda it. She still ends up almost getting choked out. Lame.
Charlie just isn't that powerful. šŸ˜’ Or at least as she's supposed to be. Maybe it's still not really shown to us, but so far she just isn't that threatening at all. Very disappointing.
Lucifer coming in kinda pissed me off. I wish Charlie could have actually handled everything herself without her dad having to come in and help her. I just feel like it'd be more impactful for her and her character.
Adam x Lucifer actually does seem kinda hot....just me???
Their fight was very entertaining despite already knowing who would come out on top. Hehe.
"All of Mankind came from these fucking nutts" is pure poetry.
Nifty is a menace and I have been saying it since the very beginning. If anyone should be running shit it should be her. Alastor is so feared but it should be herrrr.
I didn't like "The Show Must Go On" as a song but it was sweet in the sense that it was about Charlie and her found family helping her rebuild her hotel and still have the determination to keep going. Also it helps lead off into Season 2.
I'm fucking itching to know what deal is bothering Alastor and who he made it with. It's becoming more likely that it's with Lilith & that's who owns him.
I think it's obvious the deal possibly involve's Alastor to watch over or protect Charlie. Alastor is becoming bothered by having to do this because he literally almost fucking died.
I'm really worried about what Alastor is going to do when he's finally free and under no restraints from who controls him. I know Viv said Alastor isn't an antagonist but she could've just been keeping it a secret.
Alastor really might be a secret antagonist. He'll just be that surprise villain in the end that kinda comes out of nowhere but you still knew it was coming. I wouldn't trust him especially with what he said. Him pulling the strings can't be good.
I can't believe Sir Pentious got redeemed before Angel Dust, but still good for him! I'm so happy he got redeemed he truly is good and deserves it.
I was pissed asf when I saw Lilith in Heaven. Your daughter has been in HELL fucking struggling, while you've been sitting comfy up in heaven, the same place that is fucking YOUR people up!!! Helloooo??
My theory is that Lilith is Eve in disguise. I wholeheartedly believe that because something just feels off?? Y'all feel that too??? Lilith making a deal with Adam? Chilling up in Heaven? NAH MAN.
I also think it could be Eve who owns Alastor and that he knows of her being disguised as Eve, and is in Heaven. Like he's kinda in on it, but more so by force.
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tojikai Ā· 3 months
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Okay but I am the only one who didnā€™t fw naomi even before she pulled that bs
I donā€™t know how to explain it but i really dislike like how she came off when it comes to y/n and yui
Like seriouslyā€¦ā€¦
I hate her ā€œshyā€ ā€œkindā€ demeanor that sheā€™s puts on likeā€¦
what did she think of y/n and some of the stuff she (naomi) was doing because she did so much wild shit: basically trying to replace y/n place and be yui mother plus how distasteful her and satoru would actšŸ‘ŽšŸ‘Ž
Also her and satoru were so wild even before they got together idk i would lose my shit if i found out the man that promised to work on us, was using this one girl for comfort and telling her our problems while falling for her?!?!! Nah iā€™d cash out
Naomi was kinda of wrong too especially since she was ā€œfalling for himā€ like this man and this women have stuff going on plus a whole child and ur just inserting urself!!!
It feels like she kinda of used it as an opportunity
Maybe im just a hater but did gojoā€™s mother plan for them to get together? And how did they even start getting close again? Plus how did satoru start using her as a damn therapist šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ did bro just say ā€œoh, me and yuiā€™s mother has just beenā€¦.ā€ Or what
I wouldā€™ve also lost my minddd to find out that this lady has been hanging around my child without me knowing
Makes me wonder if the roles were reversed, what would satoru do? Would he find a problem with how a man who has romantic intentions with y/n and cuddles with her or wtv while yui is there, has been hanging around especially with his kid in the picture ?šŸ§
Yeah im definitely just a hater šŸ˜…
NAOMI? now let me say im the biGGEST HATER I HATE THE WAY THAT YOU WALK THE WAY THAT YOU TALK I HATE THE WAY THAT YOU DRESSā€” LMAO srsly tho i didn't fuck w her since the beginning too esp. with the fact that she chose to get w satoru despite knowing everythingšŸ˜  LMAO i literally wrote her but yeah, i hate her for that. she's NOT a girl's girl. if i was yn's friend, it's ON SIGHT!!!!!
i feel like if yui finds out about her when she grows up, she'll think of her as someone who tried to take her father away from her when he's already not w them, instead of someone who tried to help her father when he's having problems w her mom. even if she didn't do anything to her directly, i feel like yui would hate her for getting in between her parents when they're already apart.
gojo's mother didn't plan on getting the two of them together. she just wanted anyone but yn for satoru. naomi was the closest available one that time. naomi and satoru sort of like developed a close relationship bc naomi and yn used to be HS classmates, she knows yn. it wasn't hard for satoru to introduce the topic and open up bc of that.
and if the roles were reversed, i think it already happened w toji and lets just say satoru lost his mind over thatšŸ˜­
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viathecloset Ā· 4 months
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RANT CUZ IM TIRED OF HOW JUNGKOOK IS BEING TREATED
ā€¢ Jungkook who has been working since he was frickin 13 without a break is probably one of the greatest vocalists of all time and this is no exaggeration. He's a musical prodigy who can not only sing but compose, write and produce while also being a multifaceted artist who can paint, dance and do much more.
ā€¢ Even before the solo era jungkook's music was not only well received but always pulled numbers be it Still with you or even Euphoria. With the onset of solo careers Jungkook's fame touched newer heights, broke so many records and gained a bunch of new audience.
ā€¢ His success isn't cuz of mass streaming or šŸ›“ or company or the word people love to throw around casually 'Payola'. He is genuinely loved by so many people and gp loves the guy. Cry about it ig, idk.
ā€¢ Armys have been bitter asf about him, although we've seen this behaviour even before his success with seven especially after this weve seen people be so bitter towards him for absolutely no fault of his except succeed in his persuits.
ā€¢ Like? Okay let's throw him and his success around for fan wars but the moment a certain breed of solos come for him we do nothing, let's connect his success and every little thing he does to the company indirectly implying all of his work and success is infact cuz of payola and šŸ›“ and not him.
ā€¢ YOU were the first ones that linked him to that man and all those allegations he faces are cuz admittedly these people are the first ones that gave haters the material.
ā€¢ Hes been so gentle, loving and humble despite all the success and yall have done nothing except shade him like bitter family friends ffs. Crying about logo now are we? Cuz it's trademarked or sent for it? Cry harder, man has always put the team and fans above himself and for once he does something on his own yall hate?
ā€¢ Love saying he's got yall tattooed on his hand and want him to be the cheerleader for everyone but what the fuck does he get? Shade? Hate? Unnecessary connections? Bitter reception even for a fan song? Nah yall lost the plot.
ā€¢ Hes enlisted so much earlier than he needs to ONLY CUZ OF THE COMEBACK THAT WAS PROMISED TO Y'ALL. but no, let's call him selfish. Cuz ive seen yall use it as some cute ship thing when he enlisted with other member who's 2 yrs older than him, made him the guard dog and made a/b/o scenarios and jokes completely ignoring that hes frickin 26!?!?! He gave up his solo career, dropped it in between, shot stuff in the middle of his promotions despite his ill health and not ONE wished for his safety. And the one man who actually wished for it yall called him a clout chaser and whatnot. Not one thought how emotionally demanding this would be, or how much he sacrificed.
Idc I'm pissed cuz he deserves respect, he deserves love and utter and complete devotion. He's done nothing but love and be sincere towards his work, he sacrificed so much and all he gets in return in this. Free him ffs. I hope he reaches even newer heights and pisses more people off while getting more genuine and sincere fans who love him not cuz of a narrative or a fantasy but the amazing human/artist he is.
ANYWAYS NEVER LET GO IS OUT TOMORROW 1PM KST, PRE SAVE/PRE ORDER, CAN'T WAIT ā™”
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terezipyropescrocs Ā· 11 months
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saw the barbie movie and am finally free to be a Hater on main without being accused of criticizing something without having watched it- anyway here is a non-exhaustive list of my Thoughts
this movie could have been nothing but fun dance numbers :(
i will say.........i like the costumes and barbieland set design. comparatively the way the real world is shot is so drab and visually uninteresting imo which. i don't feel is great given how much time we spend in it and that barbie ends up living there
the fact that barbies are supposedly affected by the people playing with them but they all act like..... That. just how shallow do they think kids imaginations are? why is there only one "weird" barbie???
admittedly i've never been to LA so maybe i'm completely off-base here but am i expected to believe that ken is automatically respected and admired (but not ogled! with no undertones of violence!) just for existing while my man is constantly dressed like he walked straight from a pride parade
on that note there was a lot of queer subtext/references but it was all very... wink wink nudge nudge in a way that honestly felt a little, idk, uncomfortable to me? but nothing overtly inclusive or even that subversive really
like with the construction workers scene i honestly can't tell if this was meant to be a trans positive moment or just a joke about them being dolls but if so it's like. you have these sexist catcallers but they support trans identities...? literally just as incoherent as everything else going on in this movie
why is barbie simply allowed to walk right into a school cafeteria
gloria and her daughter's relationship and the conflict between them was... very ill defined aside from the apparently all consuming and ever present suffocation of Womanhoodā„¢ like wtf is with sasha's line about hating women being the one thing everyone agrees on???? it's the kind of pseudo-pithy cynicism-laced quote that i would expect from a bitter 50s housewife or aging hollywood star, not a teenage girl who, idk, overuses buzzwords?
actually come to think of it pretty much all the female relationships in this movie are very surface-level and hinge almost exclusively on their shared gender identity and not much else!
the fact that all of the barbies were brainwashed to the point where they couldn't even remember their own achievements from ken mansplaining the patriarchy to them.......... and the fact that this is """explained""" with a fucked up and insensitive smallpox joke......... i am mad enough to spit tacks actually
pretty much the only thing i could think of during gloria's big feminist speech and subsequent appeals to the brainwashed barbies is that nothing she's saying actually applies to any of the dolls' experiences "You have to be their mommies but not remind them of their mommy." they don't have parents gloria
the use of push by matchbox twenty in the context of the movie sure is a Choice, seeing as the singer based it off a relationship where he was being emotionally abused by his girlfriend but had the lyrics widely misinterpreted as misogynistic.... anyway.
the way that all of the kens (and even allan) resort to violence and all of the barbies defeat them using manipulation and ~feminine wiles~.. thanks i hate it
i did like how the kens seemed to overcome their differences through singing and holding hands. also fellas is it toxic masculinity to want your girlfriend To see the man behind the tan / And fight for me?
confused by ken's "kenough" revelation from talking to barbie because he.... literally just sang all of that? Iā€™m just Ken / And Iā€™m enough / And Iā€™m great at doing stuff / So, hey, check me out / Yeah, Iā€™m just Ken is that all supposed to be just bravado? it's the same message but he needed barbie to articulate it to him for it to sink in. hm.
feel like barbie's motives for wanting to live in the real world could have been explored better because tbh... the pitch wasn't great!
like her arc is genuinely: experience insecurity for the first time ever because someone else was projecting it onto her > get over said insecurity (that till this point she had never struggled with) because that same person made a speech > gynecologist
not that gloria, the woc who all of barbie's issues represent and originated from gets any kind of satisfying resolution of her own other than pitching "everyday barbie"
the fact that barbie gaining an expanded range of emotions, many of which are negative, indicates that she is no longer a barbie and has to live in the real world to be fufilled- even though all of the insecurities barbie gained from entering a world that doesn't value her and not having a specific career, ken already HAD. men are automatically more human by default ig!!!
people saying that whole point of the ending is that barbieland is a mirror to the real world and the kens will only gain equality when women do as if it's not explicitly stated that the kens have LESS power and influence then women under the patriarchy... but that's fine because the barbies are nicer then men in the real world and kens have to earn their rights because we don't want to reward bad behavior and they need to prove their competence first /s
saw some other butches mention this but the fact that sasha dresses increasingly feminine to represent her character growth and overcoming internalized misogyny is an unfortunate trope
there was absolutely nothing that made me go "oh!!!" as a fan of the animated barbie movies + life in the dreamhouse, or someone who has the most basic understanding of barbie lore (they have one version of midge, skipper, and allan, but no chelsea, teresa, nikki, RAQUELLE, etc.?)
"stereotypical barbie" Her Name Is Barbara Millicent Roberts
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irldiancie Ā· 6 months
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All Kagehina ā€œproofā€ I know of
Ok i wasnt gonna post this but ive been told by a friend to explain why some might ship Kagehina so... try me. i dont exactly ship this myself but lets just say im a pro when it comes to this topic also it's not as bad as i thought it was there are worse ships idk why i was a hater also i lowkey got some of this from shipping wiki but most of it i knew already, plus NOT ALL OF THIS IS NECESSARILY REFERENCES TO THE SHIP it kinda just adds on to it anyways lets just get into it
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ok so starting with common knowledge i think everyone knows that Hinata is the protagonist followed with Kageyama being the deuteragonist, they get the most screen time together and are pretty much paired MOST of the series, we get a lot of content with them together while also getting content of them on their own, they're known as the "freak duo," the "greatest teammates" and like 100 other names they've been called I've seen a lot of people intemperate their relationship wrong, I've seen a few say Kageyama was downright "abusive" to Hinata which I think is a little farfetched, but to each their own! They genuinely do care for each other and it shows, even at the end of the manga you can tell how far their relationship has come, even if they consider themselves rivals, they are without a doubt still friends Now a lot of people have said "well they're not gay they're just friends", while this is true, it has been referenced/implied officially in many places, including manga panels and english dubs, so while it isn't canon there is a few cute things about it which we know are official which is why I'm sharing this, I myself know it isn't canon, plus I didn't really make this to prove anything it was kinda for fun sorry if that made little to no sense but I'll start getting into more interesting stuff 1. at the tip of the iceberg we have the fact they're in so much official art together
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theres like a 1000 more of these btw theyre often put near eachother even in official arts not based off them
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I have like 1k more of these but i have more proof than this but i think you get my point some of this is probably promo art but that's also considered official art so 2. moving on i think another known one is that Ukai calls them lovebirds ONE TIME in English dub and I have no idea who approved that but I think it's funny and obviously this probably meant nothing but take it as you want video of it here 3. this is kinda randomly thrown in but the fact that they also trust eachother, they've mentioned it a couple times but I think it's nice to know 4. i dont remember when this was or what chapter or something but kageyamas grandfather said "somebody even better will come for you", which just happened to be Hinata of course 5. ALSO after that whole fight scene back in season two, Hinata says this
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he didnt really consider kageyama as a friend, but he considered him a partner which i believe is more important to hinata. teammates/partners were always something Hinata wanted, as before he went to Karasuno, he didn't feel like his friends in Junior high were necessarily teammates. Meaning he valued Kageyama more because he was his partner.
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(credits to triananero for these images) and when him and Kageyama started working together, they most definitely were perfect together, as they balanced each-other out, which made them become an unstoppable duo or whatever they called them 6. the fact that they have matching jersey numbers 9 and 10 moving on to less canon stuff, there is a light novel of Haikyuu called HaikyÅ«!! Shōsetsuban!! which probably isnt close to canon but Furudate was a part of it even though it wasn't written by him, so it's at least somewhat official 7. anyway according to shipping wiki there is a chapter where Kageyama feels "fluttery feelings at the bottom of his stomach" when Hinata texts him, it's on volume 8 chapter 1, I REALLY WANTED TO SHOW YOU GUYS BUT I COULDNT FIND IT ANYWHERE ONLINE. i searched countless tumblr posts and websites but i could only find chapter five and chapter three so im fully convinced this is lost media LMAOOOO 8. also in HaikyÅ«!! Shōsetsuban!! apparently there's a part where Hinata daydreams about him and Kageyama eating under cherry blossom trees i just found that cute AS MUCH AS I WANNA SHOW YOU GUYS I LITERALLY CANNOT FIND ANYTHING OF THIS LIGHT NOVEL ANYWHERE i just know it's real, if I ever get my hands on it which I doubt, I'll share proof it exists btw AND THIS IS REALLY RANDOM AND SOMEONE WANTED ME TO INCLUDE THIS BUT 9. Basically there was a ad for deodorant a couple years back, collabing with Haikyuu, where you could buy deodorants to ā€œsmell like themā€ or whatever, some shippers believe itā€™s a Kagehina reference as they also advertised Kageyama and Hinatas scents together as some like matching couple thing
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and then there's this
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And I think I've said enough, there's way more you can find out about this ship, but I hope with this post you've learned something new or whatever... I MIGHT MAKE THIS A SERIES should i do kenhina next or kuroken ANYWAYS DISCLAIMER I didnt look too much into most of these things but I can gaurentee this stuff is true also this was just for fun and not serious but i hope you liked my little post!
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sparkles-oflight Ā· 9 months
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If not for you
One time I claimed "If not for you" by MĆ„neskin was a BoKris song and I'm here to "sell my fish" (this expression makes absolutely no sense in English but alas).
Setting: This happens IMMEDIATELY after the Stožice concert. Literally in the backstage. Bojan is pondering about life and some homo shit happens (I hate doing synopsis). It's sort of cute? Idk. Feelings, man.
Disclaimer: Please think of these as characters and not the actual people. I donā€™t encourage anyone to send this to any of the actual JO members nor do I encourage people to force any type of relationship between anyone.
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ā€œEverything ended so quicklyā€, thatā€™s what he thought.
He was sitting down alone on the couch, with his costume on his body still. He enjoyed the feeling of the fabric against his sweaty skin, as his heartbeat calmed down and the adrenaline disappeared...
They really did it, didnā€™t they?
So... why did he feel tears running down his cheeks? Were those happy tears?
- BOJAN! ā€“ a tall man entered the room ā€“ Come on! Everyone is waiting for you outside. WE HAVE A PARTY!
The small man looked up at the owner of the voice...Kris.
- Hey, man...are you crying? ā€“ Kris finally noticed what was going on.
- Iā€™m fine. ā€“ Bojan quickly tried to wipe his tears off.
- Do you want me to call Martin? ā€“ Kris kneeled in front of Bojan, holding his hands ā€“ Maybe he knows better how to deal with these types of s-
- No. ā€“ Bojan protested by holding his hands strongly ā€“ No need to call Martin. Iā€™m fine.
Kris looked in distress. He really was lost...why was Bojan crying? They just filled a stadium- no, they filled THE stadium with a crowd of people who came to see them and their band. If he thought too much about it, he would probably start crying too, but he didnā€™t want to bring the mood down. He just wanted to party. He had time to process his feelings later...
Kris just failed to understand that that was exactly what was going on in Bojanā€™s brain. The big difference between them was that Bojan actually chose to let his feelings out first instead of bottling them up.
- Kris... ā€“ Bojan was the one who broke the ice ā€“ do you remember how we met?
- Okay Bojan we need to get you dressed. ā€“ Kris was not letting him talk about it...he really didnā€™t want to cry.
- It was so funny seeing you burst into our rehearsal to criticize us... ā€“ Bojanā€™s lips formed a smile ā€“ You were a hater from the beginning, werenā€™t you?
- If you actually knew how to play the song, I wouldnā€™t have to intervene. ā€“ Kris was starting to unbutton Bojanā€™s shirt, avoiding eye contact.
- But if I had played it well, we wouldnā€™t have met, would we? ā€“ Kris didnā€™t reply, so Bojan kept going ā€“ And it was...amazing how I inspired you to play music. Not THE Miha GuÅ”tin but Bojan Cvjetićanin.
- To be fair, I just wanted to get girls' attention. Lift your arms. ā€“ Bojan lifted his arms as Kris removed his shirt ā€“ Though it seems Iā€™m only a lesbian icon now...
- Even so... ā€“ Kris got up and folded Bojanā€™s shirt and then put it away ā€“ It was the first time I ever inspired a young person to do music.
- Bojan, Iā€™m one year younger than you.
- Listen, Krisko, when I was your age, I used to respect my elders.
- No, you didnā€™t.
- No, I didnā€™t. ā€“ and the smaller one kept his rambling going ā€“ You took a while to accept my request to join our band...but Iā€™m glad of how things turned out...because... ā€œIf not for you, I wouldnā€™t sing anymoreā€ ā€“ Bojan softly sang.
- What? ā€“ Kris returned.
- Itā€™s a song... ā€“ Bojan decided to sing as Kris untied his shoes ā€“ ā€œThereā€™d be no summer...Thereā€™d be no spring, if not for this love of mineā€.
Kris didnā€™t say anything, he just enjoyed the singing.
- ā€œThornes without flowers... Bars with no drinks, if not for this love of mineā€ ā€“ Bojan thought his tears had dried...he was wrong ā€“ ā€œAll the lights, all the parties will just fade out... Shut them downā€.
Kris finally started recognizing the melody of the song, though he couldnā€™t quite remember where from.
- ā€œIf not for you, I wouldnā€™t sing anymoreā€ ā€“ and the tears flowed from Bojanā€™s eyes down to his cheeks and his throat...and some of them dried on Bojanā€™s bare chest ā€“ ā€œIf not for you, I couldnā€™t get off this floorā€.
- Yeah, Iā€™m literally helping you get dressed. ā€“ Kris couldnā€™t help but make a snarky comment.
- But itā€™s true, if it werenā€™t you, I wouldnā€™t be singing anymore. ā€“ Kris got up to put his shoes away.
- Why do you say that?
- Because of that day...the day you sang Gola to me. ā€“ Kris finally stopped on his tracks.
He was not facing Bojan, but Bojan knew something had broken inside Krisā€™ brain.
A bunch of coincidences brought them together, but it was Kris who made their bond stay intact. It was Kris that made it possible for them to have what they have now.
- I wanted to go solo, but you asked for one last chance ā€“ Kris knew all of that ā€“ and you made me stay...with just a guitar, your voice and passion...
Kris didnā€™t need a recap of their relationship...he didnā€™t want any of that...and the more Bojan talked, the more Kris just wanted to run away...
- Kris...I need you to know ā€“ Kris didnā€™t want to face those feelings right now ā€“ That Iā€™m thankful for all youā€™ve done for me. For all of us.
Still not facing Bojan, the tall man let the tears run down his face. He just nodded.
- Iā€™m crying because...we made it, man. ā€“ Kris really had it with him.
He quickly wiped his tears and faced Bojan. He was done.
It took him years to reach a state of confidence he felt when he was in the arena...years of building up, of feeling comfortable with his own body and image. Years processing feelings and burying down some of those...
- We need to get you drunk. ā€“ he projected onto the singer.
He quickly unzipped Bojanā€™s glittery pink pants...he just wanted this chat to be over. He was done reflecting on his past insecure self.
- Hey! ā€“ Bojan grabbed Krisā€™ hands before he could start taking his pants off.
The guitarist finally looked at the singer. The younger one had red eyes, a slight blush, and frustration in his gaze.
- Are you blushing because your hand is near my dick? ā€“ Bojan tried to tease him, but he didnā€™t understand his frustration at all.
- No! ā€“ Kris tried to free his hand, but Bojan didnā€™t let him.
- Uhm... ā€“ Instead, the brown-eyed boy got close to his face and stared at the guitaristā€™s eyes, his guitarist ā€“ Thereā€™s something going on, isnā€™t there?
- Fine! ā€“ Kris abruptly yelled, but Bojan didnā€™t let his hand go, he was used by now ā€“ Do you want to know so badly!? ā€“ Bojan didnā€™t reply ā€“ What if...
- What if...?
- What if I was down for you...? Really badly.
- You...
- Yes, Bojan, I liked you.
- And what changed?
- I did.
- And you canā€™t have feelings for me because of that?
- I donā€™t want my old self to exist anymore. We are two different people. ā€“ Bojan finally let go of Krisā€™ hand slowly - He helped me reach this far, but that was it.
- But he existed. I think thatā€™s the beauty of it.
- What would you know about it? Youā€™ve always been comfortable in your own skin, thoughts, and feelings. You were always social, open, and confident. You donā€™t know what is like to be me!
- I donā€™t, but I donā€™t think you should shit on your old self.
- Why do you even fucking care!?
- Because I felt the same.
- What...? ā€“ Kris didnā€™t understand a word ā€“ What the fuck are you talking about?
- I also liked you.
Kris stopped for a couple of seconds...he needed to process what just happened.
- Why?
- Why wouldnā€™t I? The moment you burst through the door to yell at me I was immediately showered by your energy. ā€“ Bojan wasnā€™t going to shy away from eye contact, but he certainly fidgeted with his fingers out of nervousness ā€“ Itā€™s a different energy from Martin or Janā€™s or any of the other guys...
He looked at a loss of words, so Kris made the question this time.
- What changed?
- I did. I grew up to be more anxious and careful.
- That doesnā€™t sound like you at all.
- Because I canā€™t let go of my past self. Both versions of me coexist and I can accept them both, with their faults and virtues. No use in crying over spilled milk.
They stayed in an awkward silence for a while before Kris got too annoyed with it.
- What now?
- First of all, close the door. I canā€™t believe you started undressing me before even closing the door to the hallway.
Kris looked behind him. The door was wide open.
Did anyone listen? At this point: who cares?
- Now? ā€“ he said after closing the door.
- Wanna go party with the other? Or...
- Or?
- Do want to help me undress me some more?
- You are fucking unbelievable.
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"Why do you like having your characters naked, high and or drunk when they confess feelings?" It's a metaphor for vulnerability (I grew up watching sailor Moon)
I hope you somehow got past my shitty "synopsis" (I didn't even attempt to write one really) and made it this far. Byee
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prismaticflare Ā· 3 months
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Okay, enough with the positives, lets talk flaws. I wish I could say there werenā€™t any, but I am not a liar. Warning, spoilers along with swearing and excessive caps lock.
Also am being pretty blunt here. I did overall enjoy the movie a lot, but if youā€™re reading my criticisms, I doubt you want me to sugar coat them, so I wonā€™t. If you donā€™t want the negativity, thatā€™s totally fine! A movie doesnā€™t have to be perfect for you to like it, and, again, I ENJOYED THIS MOVIE! So, feel free to skip this post and enjoy the rest of my autism fueled happy rants! However, if you want to hear my honest criticism, here you go.
Firstly, ending was fucking awful. I will be making a whole post alone on it just because of how much it sucked. Also wont did into the problems with the time travel, other than one major one at the end. Time travel in ANY show is a horrible idea.
Choreography was garbage. Every single song had the same dynamic. The main singer was at the center while a triangle of backup dancers flailed around in the back. If you donā€™t know, Iā€™ve done dance for a large portion of my life, and have a background in ballet among many other styles, so I know for a FACT they could have done better. And its not just that it was bad. D1-D3 were no chorographical masterpieces, but DROR felt as if it was HIGHLIGHTING IT! YOU COULD NOT ESCAPE THE JOJO SIWA ASS FLAILING. WHAT THE HELL!
That one ponytail on Bridget was a hate crime. Iā€™ve never really been a wig snob, I though Malā€™s D3 wig was fine although apparently it wasnā€™t, but if I can tell a wig is bad, you need to burn it.
Although Uliana (aka my wife) was the best thing in this world, the rest of the Merlin-Era VKs were meh. They tried to recreate the Sea Three dynamic and did it, but it wasnā€™t good. I actually liked Morgie better than Gil, but thatā€™s because I never liked Gil as I am a firm hater on comic relief characters, and Morgie is the same exact things although he gets glowey eyes so thatā€™s better than Gil. Hook was just Harry but boring and no longer a whore (non-derogatory), and the rest of them could be erased from the show and nothing would change.
Speaking of characters, WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH MADDOX!? I didnā€™t finish the newest book, but unless something CRAZY happens at the end, these are two different characters. I suspect this is another crime of Disney not telling Melissa de la Cruz enough, or maybe it was bad writing on her end (wouldnā€™t be the first time,) but still was lame.
Also, this might just be me, but the way they handled Carlos rubbed me the wrong way, although that was a decision from the wedding animation that I always hated. They could have just pretended they never did that, but I understand why they didnā€™t. Still made me hella uncomfy.
As of now I think thatā€™s about everything, although there were quite a few minor things. I wonā€™t list them all off as I donā€™t want to nitpick, but just to name a fewā€¦
Flamingo CGI hurt my eyes
So This Is Love was D1 Be Our Guest coded (derogatory)
Tried too hard to recreate D1-D3 although they actually had a fine plot without it
Ulianaā€™s ā€œperfect revengeā€ was boring. Go with Hadesā€™ idea and burn her. Much better (also will mention this in ending chapter)
IDK how a sequel (which they hinted at) would work since they literally said Mal, Ben, Jay, and Evie are just on a trip. Are they not gonna come back?
Speaking of which, such a lazy excuse. Just say they died. If you did it for Carlos, you can do it for them
Didnā€™t have my bbgrl Lonnie
See you soon for my final part of this chat. The one I hate the most. The End
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Hello, just wanted to say I love your blog and your opinions are really valuable to me! Now, asked this to another blog which opinions also I value about Jikook, because, like you, they work with the truth, and not delusions. Saying this just in case you see the same ask on another blog, it's only because I really like both of your opinions.
That being said, what do you think about the time when pictures of Jungkook hugging and going out with his female tattooist god leaked? Now, don't get me wrong, I know that time was very hard for Jungkook because of the unjustified hate he got for it, and I know just because a boy and a girl hug/interact doesn't equal to them dating (esp. with annoying ppl in this fandom where jk can't even BREATHE without ppl creating rumors that he's been dating 50 girls. I mean, did you see the crazy rumor about a rich blonde girl from Qatar? Lmao its CRAZY)
But, I really want to know about your opinion on this. Do you think they were just friends? Someone said that they weren't drinking alone in that restaurant. Or do you think Jikook were broken up at the time and they had a thing?
I think, that you are trying to pass yourself off as a Jikooker and anon,
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Do you think they were just friends? Someone said that they were drinking alone in that restaurant. Or do you think Jikook were broken up at the time and they had a thing?
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I would much rather talk about what happened after that. Here are some of my favourite moments from Bon Voyage season 4.
JK saying ILY then looking at Jimin immediately after
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This one no one ever talks about. But someone said Jimin had arrived and the way JK immediately looks and perks up! Omg!! šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­
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And he doesn't stop staring at Jimin either. He'd really missed his baby. Also the way he perked up reminds me of this popular moment when Jimin calls JK Kookosan and we get the happiest smile from JK that turns us all to mush.
I could have sworn JK was younger than Jimin. So idk why Jimin treats JK like he's the hyung
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IYKYK šŸ˜ŒšŸ˜Œ
JK saying Jimin's name as J.M and writing the same down.
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I don't need to remind y'all his ink was still new so you're the delulu one if you think JK doesn't know what the letters on his hand look like.
We always talk about JK bringing the snow. But we don't talk enough about JK sitting by the snow waiting for Jimin to come out. We don't talk about how eager he was to show Jimin what he got him. How quickly he stood up all excited.
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And the smile on his face as he watches Jimin's reaction is everything šŸ„ŗšŸ„ŗšŸ„ŗ
And yes, I do think this may have been to make up for the scandal even though it wasn't JK's fault. Also if u notice JK is very subdued this season and Jimin was looking after him alot. It's why satellite Jimin was on an all time high in BV sn 4. Haters really put JK through the wringer but I'm glad his man was able to be there for him.
Hand holding to take a picture and JK removing his glove so it can be skin on skin. Feels šŸ˜©šŸ˜©
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Jimin drooling over how bad ass JK was for jumping upside down. You bet your ass he loves this side of JK.
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This right here is a favourite of mine. (I have more but damn u tumblr and your image limit) They're in New Zealand. Beautiful, gorgeous country. They get directed to a place with a beautiful, beautiful, insane view. All other members are watching this view and admiring it. Meanwhile JK's view:
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And he stared for a long time. The camera kept panning out and JK was still staring. If you truly believe JK is not in love with Jimin, then idk what to tell ya.
Anon, Jungkook is in love with Jimin, is committed to Jimin and Jimin only. Has only ever had eyes for Jimin, has never strayed and most probably never will. He's in this Jimin shit for life.
Period.
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skaruresonic Ā· 10 months
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The idw discourse is so bad, I feel caught in the middle because each time I express how bad the storytelling is, in a new issue or how off model the characters are drawn, idw fans gang up on me. But on the other hand I don't want to be associated with the people who think think it's funny to tweet how Flynn should die or make weird assumptions about Stanley being a bad person ? Like that's weird and cruel. Hate their work not them as people.
I just decided to pretend the comic doesn't exist and it helps lol.
I'm sorry that happened to you. Idk if anyone else will tell you that, but I will, because I know how much it sucks.
One time, I saw a guy on Twitter blame us for his inability to criticize the book in what he believed was a much more "balanced" manner without getting harassed by people.
Digest that for a moment. It's our fault for other people's reaction to us. And instead of rubbing his brain cells together for a moment and questioning the reasons why this knee-jerk reaction occurs, or even reflecting on the fact that it occurs at all and perhaps realizing that the call is coming from inside the house, he fell back on old biases and decided it was the haters who were wrong.
The mental gymnastics on display here are unreal.
In this case, I think people are stumbling into the usual fallacious trap of assuming both sides carry equal weight, and thus believe that defaulting to a position of "neutrality" makes them morally superior somehow.
That's kind of what I hate about this fandom - the utter superciliousness. The rotten shit we as a fandom get up to (and no, being a little snarky in a reblog does not count as harassment) while proclaiming love and light uwu. Be nice to everyone, except those freaks over there.
"Neutrality" is in scare quotes here because it's not true neutrality, but a way of posturing to the in-group that you're not Like Us. As demonstrated by my Twitter-user anecdote, people around here don't want to say anything hater-flavored because it risks intense ostracization. That's why you have people jumping down your throat for presenting even mild criticisms. It'd be pathetic if it weren't so annoying.
I'm not talking about people who let well enough alone. I'm talking about centrists who sneer "both sides are bad," as if by distancing themselves from the situation in a smug manner, they're declaring themselves more enlightened than the rest of us.
Honestly, the other side should be just as insulted, but they're not, because this attitude only helps them in the long run.
In reality, this is more like the fishhook situation centrists have with antis vs. proshippers. Saying "this whole thing is stupid" really only benefits antis because they now have grounds to reply, "Yes, this IS stupid, don't you think proshippers are crazy for being upset at something so trivial?" while conveniently omitting the part where antis routinely send proshippers death threats and other heinous material.
Look at it from this angle: the most concrete harm I have seen their side say they've suffered is a deep discomfort and estrangement from the book. Which, yeah. That sucks. But it's also kinda on you to just click away if it makes you uncomfortable.
On the other hand, I have had legitimate crying fits because of horrible messages I received and have told people multiple times about the anon who mocked my recently-deceased mom. Which, unlike clicking away from a blog, I had no choice but to see sometimes because I was still naive enough to believe people would behave themselves in my inbox. In fact, a mutual were recently discussing our anxieties over retaliation should IDW be cancelled. There's stuff about this that you just don't want to think about because dwelling on it will freak you out.
"Both sides are bad" stings, especially in light of knowing the measures I have taken to walk on eggshells and draw proper boundaries. I literally cannot know if someone in this fandom will consider my explanations harassment and dogpiling, so I try not to reblog with commentary. On the reblogging site.
Reflect on how fucked-up that is, to feel uncomfortable adding a tag to someone's fanart because you're worried they might realize you're One of Them(tm) and shun you on that basis alone.
I won't sit here and say I've always been perfect in my conduct, but at the same time, it's just the infuriating experience of double standards all the way down. Somehow it never occurs to them that if I held them to the same standard they hold me, I could call them all out on intellectual dishonesty for refusing to engage with any of our points no matter how calmly or clearly stated because "lol ur just a hater," and tar them with the same brush as those who sent me death threats.
But ofc, things don't work out like that in the calculus of Le Sonic Discourse. It's just a rotten experience to the core.
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I've noticed more than a few people lately after the last few chapters have been very, idk, I guess doomerist about the LOV when it comes to their endings and place in the story. I keep seeing takes that I feel are in bad faith talking about how Izuku no longer cares about saving Shigaraki and is willing to kill him now that he's possessed just because he hasn't talked about Shigaraki in the last few chapters. Which I don't agree with at all, there's a lot going on in the newest chapters and we already know Izuku intends on saving him, I don't see the need for him to mention it every chapter, and I doubt he's changed his mind.
If anything, I feel Shigaraki's possession will motivate Izuku to save him even more, especially now that he knows more about him and his past besides the whole crying child thing. Which will probably come up soon again now that he's actually reached AFO.
I also see takes talking about how the LOV's role in the story is over now, and that hero society won't change at all, and they'll just get stuck in prison after all of this. Which, just feels like they're all ignoring what Horikoshi is trying to do here.
He's being vague about the LOV's status on purpose, to possibly pull off a surprise where they show up again in a dramatic way. And I truly don't see Horikoshi throwing them in prison after all of this is over. He cares a lot about the LOV and has been very deliberate in how he writes them and in showing that they're sympathetic characters who didn't deserve what happened to them. Hell, Tenko as a concept has been around since his first one shot, so I really doubt he'd ever throw away his character or just kill him off that easily.
Sorry that this isn't exactly a question and is more a vent post, I just wanted to know your thoughts on the more negative opinions people have had on here lately about the LOV and what you think will end up happening, since I very much trust in and appreciate your opinions on the series as a whole.
To me it just feels like people need to have faith in Horikoshi, and trust the process. I know the time between chapters feels really long, especially on break weeks, and that these ideas stew in people's heads due to it being a weekly manga, but I think Horikoshi is going to address everything people are worried about, it just takes time.
I haven't been paying attention to the negative opinions so there's not much specifically I can respond to. It just sounds like you're describing what we've been dealing with in this fandom for years now. It's not anything new.
I will say though that if a character "dies" but it's still a question to the audience about whether or not they are actually dead, 99% of the time it's because the character is not actually dead. When major characters truly die, mangaka usually do whatever is necessary to make sure everyone understands without a doubt that this is a real death. This is why we knew Katsuki would return, despite the literal year we had to endure of haters coping and trolling and begging for him to actually be dead.
I don't know what Horikoshi has in store for the characters he has left suspended in doubt. I don't know if he plans to bring them back for this climax or during the falling action later. I just know the chances they'll be back are astronomically high. Horikoshi loves his characters, and that has always been evident.
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fans trying to say people are mad about CNC are reaching so hard. CNC implies thereā€™s consent you can still say ā€œnoā€ and youā€™re in a safe controlled environment with someone you trust. Are they trying to say that poison scene was just CNC? Just admit you have fetishes and kinks and put them in your show and apologize if it upset and harmed SA survivors instead of arguing with SA survivors. Iā€™m 100% positive the only reason she defending Ralph is because he lets viv to steal his ideas without crediting him, beside Ralph has no self and just adopted a shitty Angel dust persona and it backfired on him heavily because he sexually harassed a minor and doesnā€™t want to face repercussions
that's all correct about CNC for sure. and it does come off like people are mis-judging the situation at hand. and--tbf--people misjudging and misunderstanding the nuances of sexual scenarios and sexualities and trauma etc. is very common. but i am also concerned it's partially to do with the execution of poison and angel dust.
sex sells but it's kind of counter-productive to use sex appeal while trying to show a character is traumatized or to make a bold statement about abuse or hypersexuality or trauma or what have you. it's kind of like that saying about satire, that it...
"requires a clarity of purpose andĀ target lest it be mistaken for and contribute to that which it intends to criticize."
that's how i feel about poison/viv's general approach to sex & abuse. but, at the same time, i feel like it's really unclear *what* she's trying to make a statement about *exactly*. and i don't know if i've seen a clear answer from her on that (if anyone has feel free to toss it in my ask box) she seems to flip-flop between her defenses and i have no idea what her goal is. sometimes it's about trauma sometimes it's about empowerment sometimes it's just the haters hating, & so on.
idk about all that you said about raph having no self and adopting angel as his persona--but i've seen the same sentiment about viv using raph (and the trauma she claims he has but he's publicly stated he doesn't in the past) to defend/justify her fixation on mlm abuse. and raph's comment towards that minor was heinous, even if the age wasn't initially in the minor's bio it's still an awful mindset to have that you can say shit like that to anyone, and would still be sexual harassment were they an adult.
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in regards to your bruce horak post, i always loved him as hemmer but i hated how snw did the trope of killing off the disabled character for no reason just to support other character's character development šŸ˜‘ (i also hate how uhura in turn is used as a prop for the white characters sometimes but that's besides the point)
also the klingon........ why the fuck is star trek still putting white actors in brownface when they play klingons jeez. shouldn't they know that that's bad by now
sorry for the random ask, idk if these were the same as the issues you had with these roles but this is why i was frustrated with them personally. anyways i hope ur having a good day i love your blog and you're super funny and cool šŸ‘ snw haters forever and ever
yup you got it boss šŸ‘šŸ»ā€¼ļø i stopped watching before they killed hemmer (in part bc i had heard abt his upcoming death, in part bc of the weird transmisogynistic tropes in the serene squall. (that i will admit i didnt notice at first. thank you moon for helping bring them to my attention ā¤ļø))
i saw so many people praising and getting excited for the musical episode, i was excited when i heard Bruce Horak had returned for a cameo, and i considered skipping ahead just to watch that episode... until i saw someone mention bruce was playing garkog, and the character was him in blackface, and then i was just disgusted lol.
i know people hated the discovery redesign of klingons, and i will admit that i am not very well informed on why exactly that is, but the one thing thst came to my mind when i saw them, was that at the very least by switching to more fantastical and less human skin tones, they could steer the franchise away from the tradition of klingons being played by white actors in blackface...i guess when fans protested the design change, paramount took that to mean that audiences wanted black face back. after all, how can you say you miss "tng era klingons" without evoking Robert o'reilly as gowron and suzie plakson playing k'ehleyr?
also regarding Uhura. i have to ask this every time snw comes up but how fucking weird was that scene where spock tried to shame her into leaving starfleet because he thought she didnt deserve her position because he perceived her as not working hard enough for it........... i admit i dont have a great memory of that scene but like what the hell was going on lmao.
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the way you write 2d is very similar to current 2d though? like in your fic he doesnā€™t act or come across as the old school 2d that you prefer, he just seems like a simple sweet guy. if you wrote a fic that took place in the earlier phases would you have written him differently?
I'm happy he comes across as close to canon! Because I *do* want them to feel like their canon counterparts to some degree because, to me, it can help make a fic feel more immersive. But this answer will have a few layers to it, which I'll try to explain as succinctly as possible. TheĀ tl;drĀ answerĀ is this: I actually do think 2D is a genuinely nice guy, but I also think he has glaring flaws that I don't think today's canon really recognizes, and I also started writing 2Doc at a very different point in fandom, which did have some influence on my characterizations at the time. Okay, so answer part 1...
Is 2D nice?Ā My answer here is actually yes lmao. I think he's nice in earlier phases. He is, as I see him, essentially the "normal guy" trope of Gorillaz. He cares for Murdoc probably a lot more than he should and probably believes in their friendship/relationship more than he should. He's been shown to be somewhat socially conscious, easy-going, and friendly with fans. As of P4, he's (allegedly) worked on himself. However, he's also, well, a guy, and I think he's vulnerable to many of the things people complain about when they're complaining about men in general - he's shallow, emotionally immature at times, avoidant of responsibility, insecure. I think his insecurity and immaturity have especially been affected by fame and Murdoc's abuse. This is just my interpretation, but I think this can make him bottle up his true feelings to the point of being resentful. I think his experience with Murdoc's dishonesty and infidelity (Paula) can make him insecure/jealous. Basically, he's a regular person! Okay, so for the next part...
Writing 2Doc in 2017-2019:Ā Brief 2Doc fandom history time! Yes...I started writing 2Doc that long ago RIP. I'm going to go out on a limb here, and assume that most readers today weren't present to experience the, uh, political climate of fandom back then. This was right after Gorillaz returned from their first, long hiatus. The community underwent A LOT of evolution. At the time, I was also just a general fandom blog. I did not come into this fandom as a shipper, I waded into the ship cautiously, because 2017-2018 was also the time when 2Doc, along with Murdoc fans, came under incredible scrutiny. You could not talk about, or surmise about 2D's flaws without someone becoming combative with you and pressuring you to say Murdoc was worse. You could not mention that he was an absentee father, or that he might have been the best parent to Noodle. No, we all had to focus on how much Murdoc sucked, which, fair, but idk, I WANT all the characters to have likable and unlikable qualities. It makes them feel more real and relatable.
ANYHOW. When I started writing 2Doc, I didn't want that part of fandom trying to start debates with me. Like, I love a good discussion as much as the next person, but I also wanted to connect with the community. So, I think I was a lot more cautious in how I portrayed 2D. You can see this in my early, early work. I actually don't like those fics very much anymore. I've come so close to deleting that one Christmas story off my AO3 account, but I also don't believe in deleting work lmao. And it was my first published fic on AO3, so, idk, there's sentimental value there.
When you say "my fic," I'm assuming you meanĀ The AnswerĀ (if not, well...oops). I'm not sure if you've finished the story yet, so I don't want to go too far into detail. But that was the second fic I published on AO3, and I truly did want readers to feel comforted by my 2D portrayal like, "See! Yes, this is a kind, soft guy." I practiced in a way I would today, where IĀ wasĀ writing with the most passionate Murdoc/2Doc haters in mind. But the characterization is also specific to the fic, where that 2D is kind because he's trying SO hard to be someone Murdoc wants. This gets explored later in the story. He also gets worse later in the story, and those were moments I had in mind from the beginning. I wanted to be able to write scenes where the reader might not be on his side, but I also had to build up to it. I wanted even the most critical reader to get to those moments and be able to accept it as a reasonable development. Was it perfect execution? Probably not (it's been a while since I've read it), but I do think those scenes were earned.
P1-P2 2Doc:Ā It's funny you mention this. The early phases actually aren't very inspiring to me. I have the most fun with 2Doc when exploring the unknown and subverting expectations of what the ship "should" be. Where do they go from where canon left off? I don't know! I do think they can regress, and I'm interested to see how my depiction of them has changed now that it's been a few years and I have a lot of new points of reference that have inspired some new perspectives on both of them. If I were to write an early-phase 2D, I guess he might be a little closer to ROTO 2D. But I also *do* think he's nice. But I don't think he's a doormat or a cinnamon roll, and I don't like the idea of always writing him as a hapless victim and Murdoc as an evil, 2-dimensional supervillain (I don't think he wasĀ everĀ like this, even in the early phases). He has his edges, and Murdoc has his vulnerabilities.
I do think the 2Doc community has come a long way from 2017-2018, and there's probably more room to experiment with their dynamic and more acceptance of 2Doc in general. I think a lot of fanwork from that era was instrumental in opening peoples' minds to different portrayals of 2Doc. Personally, I do want to write something someday that pushes the boundaries a little. What will it be? Idk, but it's on the bucket list.
Omg this answer was long...I talked about 2D for five entire paragraphs. I'm happy to clarify or expand on anything mentioned here. I have some more thoughts on this, too, but I don't want this answer to get any longer at this point. But I'm open to discussion! I enjoy discussions like this.
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