#icons lena luthor

[theidioteveryonedenies]

call me a mcgrath duckling from now on.

[disobediencs]

omg hiii lena luthor mcgrath

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[dudewotheck]

lena took her brothers vendetta against supers so personally that she proceeded to make babies with supergirl and help revive the kryptonian race, i love her for that

[luthwhore]

i love that being evil and gay and stupidly obsessive about your kryptonian arch-nemesis just runs in the family. she literally followed kara across TWO different cities after they graduated college and thus far her big evil plans have mostly been “manipulate supergirl into revealing her secret identity” which has had a roughly 0% success rate.

she has the vibes of like… the mean girl in a kids show who is still inexplicably friends with the other kids. she wants so badly to be a supervillain and unironically thinks lex is THE coolest person she knows. most of her villainy just involves stalking kara and trying to get pictures of her changing into her costume. she is the most fashionable person on panel at any given moment but also she is a massive loser.

i love her. i’m obsessed with her. i need her to be brought back into modern continuity.

[superfamily-icons]

Supergirl action 1051 + Supercorp comics

[i-am-church-the-cat]

katie mcgrath being the catalyst for two classic tumblr sapphic ships is so iconic of her

[fionnemrys]

Okay, so rewatching Supergirl (because evidentially I hate myself.)

Episode 2x01, Kara meets Lena and then immediately after, the same day, breaks things off with James. He even notices, telling her, “something’s changed for you.”

All it took was meeting Lena and she was questioning everything with Jimmy. I think it was completely on a subconscious level but I find the timing to be amusing, certainly no coincidence.

Then same episode, they go back to speak to Lena again and she makes a little comment about seeing Clark’s name on the newspaper byline and not Kara’s. She seems to suggest Kara should give reporting a shot.

Immediately Kara goes and requests a reporter job from Cat.

Lena has such an immense impact on her from the very beginning.

[fuckyeahimafangirl]

I come here late to give my opinion on what Nicole Maines said in her book about the Supercorp fandom (go to Twitter for more info, but she basically gave her point of view of things as a queer actor on the show having expected things from the queer fans, confirmed we were being queerbaited while also blaming us for some actors getting fired). I appreciate her side of things and feel for her. But reading that I felt that A LOT was overlooked, especially the context of it all. So sit back if you care enough to read this and come with me as I go on a rant and we go down memory lane to give some context into what it was like to watch Supergirl live as a Supercorp fan.

The first season of Supergirl had its fair share of ships. People liked Kara/Cat, Kara/James, Kara/Win maybe anyone? I don't remember that one but I'm sure there were people out there who liked them. Some people even liked Alex/Kara (a conversation for another time). Kara/Cat shippers could also like Kara/James, because both ships had some strong foundations in the narrative, they were undeniably good ships, regardless of how you feel about age-difference relationships or straight relationships lol. There wasn't mostly an issue, except with the ones that liked Kara/Alex.

In between the first and second season of Supergirl it was announced that a main character would be gay. They didn't say who, though. Speculation began, of course. They did say that Maggie Sawyer was coming to the show but it was not confirmed that she was going to be a lesbian and even less whose love interest. 

Then the second season premiered. And in the very first episode Kara Danvers meets Lena Luthor. Their scenes together were filled with sexual tension from the very beginning, look at their meeting scene without context and a bit of an open mind and most people will see their chemistry and think that maybe Kara was meeting her soulmate. And the first scene of Supergirl meeting Lena Luthor? It was already drawing a parallel between them and Lois/Clark, one of most iconic, recognizable and undeniable canon ships of all time. Drawing parallels between these two ships was the creators of the show's favorite pastime and it started from day one, before the ship had any fans because we hadn't met Lena just yet.

But in that episode we did meet her. And we fell in love fast. Because their interactions and the interest concept of Lena's character were good. Could it really be that Kara was the main gay character? Could it really be that they were going to give us an epic love story with Supergirl and a family member of her family's historically known enemy? Could they dare to make the famous superhero anything other than straight?

It wasn't just a delusion on our part at that time. It was a real possibility based on real facts. Kara had suddenly dropped the guy she spent the entire previous season chasing after. She got him and dumped him for no good reason (the writers didn't bother to give it a good excuse) and in the same episode she meets this woman, at the start of the season we were going to discover a main gay character.

These are all facts.

A few episodes later Maggie Sawyer makes her debut and it's clear that she's Alex's love interest from the first moment. Cool. It's not Kara but at least it's Alex (because, at the time, we know, WE KNOW, that they don't have two lesbian/queer women characters in the same show unless they're dating each other. How could we think that gay people will surround themselves with other gay people? silly us), that was the reaction: We still LOVED that it was Alex, because it still made sense. And it was difficult to find Sanvers fanfic without it having Supercorp in it because we were all the same people, of course most of us liked both ships. 

Now, I obviously don't know her, but I seriously don't think that Chyler can say she felt overlooked by the fans that season. Alex's coming out scenes were some of the best we had seen in our entire lives up until that point, and we made that known. Not all of us might have been on board with Sanvers (some storyline choices could've been questionable) but with Alex? No one loved her more than the queer Supergirl fans. And in the meantime Supercorp kept getting screen time, their friendship progressing in a Clois kind of way that was beautiful to witness. While Maggie and Alex's relationship advanced pretty quickly from an "I'm not gay" to a rejection to a proper first kiss, Supercorp was building a bit more organically as Supergirl kept saving Lena's life, as Lena opened up only to Kara, trusting her all the while Kara was keeping this huge secret from her. We ate that shit up, of course we did.

After season two was over we got the news that Floriana Lima (Maggie) was going to leave the show. I remember Chyler saying that she wanted to do right by us and whoever came next was gonna stay. And I'm not faulting Chyler for what came next, at all. Chyler was and always will be one of the best things on Supergirl and she has always treated the fandom with the utmost respect and love. And I hope she only received the same treatment back (and I hate to know she got those letters from people threatening to kill themselves, but let's have a little compassion for those people and their mental health, I hope they're doing well).

So Maggie left. And while some fans were not coping well with that, most fans understood it was the actress' decision. That was fine. What wasn't fine was the decision the writers made by making the breakup about not wanting babies when they were about to get married. How on Earth (any Earth) a couple don't talk about that particular issue BEFORE deciding to get married? It was an easy way out. But okay, it's just a TV show, I don't write it, we can move on from that... In the same season, at the same time this whole discussion and breakup occurs, the very same person who wanted to have kids has a meet-cute with a SINGLE MOTHER, Sam. The story was full of promise, she had a kid already with whom Alex got along amazingly, there was great chemistry between all three of them, Sam also had a dark secret being basically her sister's most powerful enemy, their relationship was mostly well built throughout the entire season. But guess what? She wasn't her new love interest, and left at the end of it. 

A lot of Supercorp fans LOVED AgentReign (Sam/Alex), by the way. A lot of Supercorp fans also loved ReignCorp (Sam/Lena) and a few even loved AgentCorp (Lena/Alex) and SuperReign (lol what was the name of this ship? I don't remember but Kara/Sam). And guess what? There wasn't a war between us. We were mostly the same people multishipping because it's fun and because these were interesting characters with interesting relationships created by the writers. We were inventing and wishing for stuff, but the foundations were laid for us, some (most) things were there and most of us were just screaming that we liked what we were being given and wanted more of that.

And that's why come season 4, some people were having a hard time accepting Dansen. Because we were mourning the loss of Sam and her relationship with Alex, the what ifs are always the worst, no matter the situation.  But most Supercorp fans embraced Kelly (and Azie, we love Azie and what we got to see of her relationship with Chyler, and Katie and Nicole), the vast majority of us ended up loving Dansen despite the writers not always doing a great job at writing their arcs. And it's awful that some fans treated her and other members of the cast horribly, but that was by far a small portion of the Supergirl fandom in general, and especially the Supercorp fandom. And, by the way, as a side note because racism was part of the problem for a minority of the fandom, A LOT of us in the Supercorp side of it are not white people from the US, A LOT of us are from other countries/races/cultures (that can be racist too of course, but the point is we don't know the races and motives of everyone behind a keyboard).

And that season most of us also embraced Nia because she was the first trans superhero, because of her queerness, because she was an awesome fun character, because she was relatable and geeky like most of us. We embraced her, her relationship with Kara and her relationship with Brainy. And we showed that by trending Nia related things, by adding Nia to our fanfics and fanarts. Nia was a Supercorp ally for most of us and we didn't exclude her from the art because we loved her as much as we love some of the other characters in the show.

Now, if Kara would have had, after the first season, one male love interest that was decent enough, we would have still love and wanted Supercorp, that's true (especially when it had been years of build-up) but most of us probably would have liked the pairing anyway, because we loved Kara Danvers and wanted her to be happy and to have the love she wanted at the beginning of the show (which she didn't get, by the way).

But the writers decided to give her, instead, another man who didn't treat her well. And I couldn't honestly tell you half of William's storyline because I couldn't care less. The creators of the show didn't make me care. Hell, I didn't even see Kara cared enough about that character. The writers should know their audience and should know that the audience needs moments to make them care about the characters, the writers have the power to make that happen. Many times I've seen a fandom hate a character one episode and love them by the next one, because sometimes all it takes is one good scene, or one good arc. William never had that. And now we have confirmation of what we knew all along, that maybe they were writing half-assed storylines for their love interests because they were too busy trying to figure out new ways to queerbait us. If they would have put a quarter of that effort into creating good love interests for Kara and/or Lena (but especially Kara), most of this conversation wouldn't still be happening 3 years later.

We embraced Andrea Rojas, we embraced her so much that we shipped her with Lena. Most of us weren't the blind Supercorp-or-nothing crazy fans a lot of people to this day make us out to be. When things were good, we mostly liked them. But please, please, let's be honest here, a lot of the time Supergirl was not a great-written show. And I get that those are Nicole's friends but a little objectivity, especially after all these years, would have come a long way.

These past few days I've read a couple of people saying Supercorp was the only good thing about the show. Those kinds of people were and still are a very very minority. A lot of us started the show before Supercorp existed and LOVED (still love) the Danvers sisters with all of our hearts. And the writers, at times, didn't know how to keep up with that relationship, the one that at first was the very center of the show, all that well either.

Most Supercorp fans didn't actually like that the 100th episode revolved all around Supercorp. 1) Because it was queerbaiting at its finest. 2) because it should've been about the Danvers sisters. Or at least about all Supergirl's most important relationships in equal measure. Yes, Lena was a big part of her, but ALEX EVEN MORE SO. The fandom didn't make that happen, we didn't fire any actor either. These were decisions made by the people who had the power to make anything in the show happen. If we would have had our way we all know what we would have done, and no, it definitely was not p**n (the most used AO3 tags for our ship speak for themselves).

I didn't see Nicole's last paragraph on the subject shared much. A lot of people didn't see that she acknowledged a small portion of the good the Supercorp fandom did.

But by the time you get to it, you already have a bad taste in your mouth. Because it still reads as if she's talking about us all without a care that "the toxic fans" were just a loud minority. Not to say that the good guys weren't louder, because Supercorp is still what it is to this day because we're still loud. So why is there very little mention of that? The way we supported Nia's episode? The way we supported Kelly's?

And because we were having fun and we were loud about our love for two fictional characters, WE WERE ALSO RECEIVING THREATS from some toxic fans, hell, the day before yesterday some fans were receiving death threats like it's 2017. Everything she says the cast and crew were dealing with, the Supercorp fans were dealing with it as well, and more so because the toxic people felt validated by the choices the creators made. Validated by some writers on Twitter making it worse. Validated by some of the actors who were also mocking us. We were all called delusional, and that was the most chill thing you could be called.

I understand her point of view, and I imagine that was not a great first experience in that kind of set, and I would love to have the opportunity to talk to actors about this topic that fascinates me (relationship between fandoms and cast/crew). But context is important, to see other people's point of views is important when having these conversations. She felt her own community wasn't supporting her when most of us were and that didn't come across at all. Not even with her final words. 

The fact is, they were hurt by a small part of their own fandom (which, by the way, they have no idea how old those toxic fans were. Not to say that adults are not toxic. But we, as the non-toxic adults, should also think of the demographic and react accordingly). And most of us, the queer Supercorp shippers, were also hurt by the toxic part of the fandom and by some of the people she's trying to defend. Let's be clear, there's not "mayyyybe," they were 100% wrong in queerbaiting the hell out of us from day one and mocking us for believing the bait. Make no mistake, most of this is a consequence of THAT. 

[obliviouskara]

top 5 supergirl episodes?

full disclosure i haven't seen the entirety of supergirl (ive literally only seen like 7 eps & its all season 1) so this list will probably change over time (bc im starting to painstakingly watch the show - imagine slowburn but watching a series) however ive watched like a ridiculous amount of supercorp edits so im going to base my choices on the parts where supercorp exist ha!

5. Season 1 - Red Faced

this would probably be the only none supercorp related yet still somehow my personal fave for a few reasons. i love this scene in particular bc it shows that cat grant cares for kara and what cat says here is very relatable. no matter how harsh cat can be at times, cat was a girl's girl here. she gave an advice which was helpful to both supergirl and kara. she had every right to rip kara viciously apart but instead she took a completely different route. i like the line she says here.

"You really need to figure out what's really bothering you." "You really need to find that anger behind the anger. And you really need to figure out what's really making you mad."

i think this was also the ep where kara acknowledged where some of the anger was coming from. even with zero dialogue and with mel's incredible acting skills she was able to convey so much emotions during that scene where she releases all her anger towards the red tornato. From losing her parents, losing her planet —her home, for losing everything and maybe even angry with her parents for the choices they made for her. it was such an incredible and very emotional scene.

im putting the rest in read more bc of how unnecessarily long this post has become

4. Season 2 - "The Adventures of Supergirl"

this should be easy. this was the first time kara met lena and changed the trajectory of every queer person watching this show and lena first delivered the first of many many questionably fruity (gay) lines fjlkajdla

"You couldn't have fooled me."

also bc of this scene thank you very much

3. Season 2 - "Luthors"

if there is one particular scene that convinced me to even give supergirl the time of day its obvs this one and lena "suspiciously straight" luthor delivered one of the most iconic lines on television in my opinion and now forever engraved in my mind. let's not forget lcorp CEO lena luthor took the time of day to fill catco employee kara danver's office with flowers like it's a regular tuesday but oh well

"now you'll have someone to stand up for you. always" "supergirl might have saved me but kara danvers, you are my hero."

screaming, crying, throwing up

2. Season 2 - "Exodus"

tada! i mean, look at it! how heroic! i also find it funny how grateful and confused lena was that kara danvers was having coffee with supergirl late at night but still

Season 2 - Ace Reporter

so this isnt at all groundbreaking bc honestly, 5 isn't enough and anything that has supercorp will be my favorite even though again i havent seen the rest of supergirl yet but we're ignoring canon so we're ignoring that fact too. i think this was the ep where kara was comforting lean about jack's death. i personally have a love and hate relationship towards this scene for many reasons but im a sucker for supercorp and there was a clip where kara hesitated and looked like she was about to plant a kiss on lena's head but then hugged her instead and i think its beautiful and im a sucker for kara leaning in towards lena

BONUS:

im too lazy to figure out where these clips are from which episode but this. i love every scene and its more like these below are my reasons for watching supergirl and has nothing to do with being my top 5 bwahaha

oh did i mention i also happen to have a weird obsession with superrojas i will not rest until i reach the ep where andrea rojas exist

[appropriatelystupid]

I've more recently gotten into supercorp beyond a passing "yeah I like them". I was wondering what, in your opinion are THE iconic fics on ao3 for them that you see get mentioned a lot or you think should be

OKAY SO I’ve been thinking about what I would put in here for far too long so this list is longer than I planned but here are the fics I think about/reread the most (note: I spend most of my time in the au tags so that’s the majority of this list):

Cadentibus Astris and The Once and Future Alien by @bibliophile-rhino-nerd

In Every Life, In Every Other World by Khart9

Supercorp Marvel AU by @bandwidthlimit and @happypugstuff

the robie cinematic universe by @i-am-robie

The Fifth Wall by @blackteaandbones

You & Me & Holiday Wine by @ekingston

she’s cursed by @fixyfics

The Arctic Station by Forage

Accidentally Until It’s Not by @indathreneblue

you’re gonna carry that weight by @mooosicaldreamz

pour me a drink by lunchables

i’m almost me again (she’s almost you) by @lostariels

love like on a silver screen by powergrapes

Lena Luthor: hot girl bummer by Rouser

Oath of Office by @uninspired--poet

At the Catch by @filament-max

I’ll be looking at the moon but I’ll be seeing you by @ayeti

in too deep by @contagiousiridescence

the future starts slow by @inanotheruniversemusings

Tasting the Talent by @legalizesupercorp

if music be the food of love, play on by @lovepotionnumber5

This Time by NeedyLoneWolf

All will be well, as long as you stay by my side by @thornedrose44

plus anything else by all of the above writers and also anything and everything by @coffeeshib @jazzfordshire @littlemousejelly @seabiscuits-us @searidings @mycatismyeditor @c--and--b @hrwinter

[lena-in-a-red-dress]

Twisters AU - meeting the in laws

Been thinking about Twisters and that iconic moment they recreated with the dude pressed up against the girl trying to protect her from the incoming tornado, practically wrapping himself around her as they both cling to the uprights for dear life....

I wouldn't mind seeing that happen with Kara and Lena, except in this version Lena would be the one promising she's got Kara, "I've got you, it's okay, I've got you", while Kara is one hundred percent being triggered by the past literally repeating itself around her.

Then afterwards, Kara is basically unresponsive, so once Lena passes the mom and the kid off to the paramedics, she returns to where Kara is sitting numb in the bottom of the pool, and just sits with her, holding her hands to ground Kara until Kara eventually comes round enough to move.

When she has the presence of mind to actually look at Lena and read the woman's expression, she realizes that Lena understands what's happening-- that Lena likely knows (has always known) who Kara is and her tragic backstory. But there's no judgement in it, only calm assurance.

They only part ways when their respective teams show up. Lena gives Kara's shoulder a reassuring rub before disengaging, shooting Mike (because of course Mon el would be the scummy stooge working for the Luthors under the radar) as she goes. When Mike fusses over Kara, Kara can't help but wish Lena was still with her, missing the woman's staid presence and the bubble of calm around her that had extended to envelop Kara as well.

When Kara eventually confronts Mike about his work for the Luthors and their predatory practices, and basically bites his head off about it, Lena watches from afar, and when Mike storms off to lick his wounds, Lena splits from her crew and approaches Kara once more. Kara can only try to pretend she isn't relieved by her return-- she isn't sure she's successful.

"Hey, ah--" Lena lifts one hand to scrub the back of her neck, plainly nervous in a way Kara's never seen her before. "I'm gonna let my guys handle things on the ground here. Can I-- would you like to come somewhere with me?"

Kara stares, and Lena realizes how weird she'd worded the request. She flushes.

"I mean-- I've got someone I think you should meet."

Kara ultimately-- inevitably-- agrees. Because it's Lena and she needs Lena right now. In the same way she'd needed Alex so desperately after her sister had died, but also... in a different way. A new way. She nods, and before she knows it they're heading to what Kara eventually realizes is Lena's hometown.

When they pull up to a quaint farmhouse standing amid acres of land, Lena throws the truck into park with a smile that Kara hasn't seen before. It carries the warmth of relief and familiarity, and Kara knows that they've arrived to where Lena has spent the majority of her life-- where her heart has always remained.

Lena hops out first, shutting the car door before reaching through the open window to beep out a "shave and a haircut" on the horn as Kara comes around the side to meet her. Lena snags her cowboy hat off the dash and settles it over her braids, shooting Kara a bright smile as the door opens and a lanky woman trots out wearing a grin not so different from Lena's.

"I wasn't expecting you til Labor Day!" the woman exclaims, throwing her arms around Lena in a fierce hug that Lena returns just as enthusiastically. "Ohhh, I've missed you!"

Kara hovers awkwardly, unwilling to interrupt the moment, but well. Clearly an interloper. When Lena and their host part, Lena cocks her head with her arm slung around the woman's shoulders.

"Kara, this is my mother, Jo." She doesn't really need to say it-- the similarities abound, from the bright glint in their eyes and the bright, keen smiles that crease their features, both warm and inviting. Lena glances sidelong at her mother, then slides her gaze to Kara.

"Mom, this is Kara."

[marinawolf]

SuperCorp at a baseball game. Kara saves Lena from a foul ball/flying bat and makes the front pages/becomes a meme/gif. Extra likes and kudos if you can incorporate Lena’s iconic line, “Kara Danvers, you are my hero”

(I like the baseball setting, thanks! You know we had to go with the kiss cam here. Title inspired by Taylor swift)

I Don't Want You Like a Best Friend (Supercorp)

by marinawolf

Lena Luthor sat in the crowded stadium, the vibrant atmosphere of the baseball game surrounding her. It was a warm summer evening, and the stadium lights illuminated the field, casting a soft glow over the cheering crowd. Her gaze was fixed on her best friend, Kara Danvers, who was sitting beside her.

Lena couldn't help but admire Kara, who looked absolutely adorable with her blonde hair tucked under a baseball hat. Her blue eyes sparkled with excitement as she cheered for the home team, her infectious smile spreading joy to everyone around her. Lena couldn't deny it—Kara was beautiful.

As the game reached a momentary break, Lena's attention was abruptly drawn to the giant screen above them. It was the infamous kiss cam, and much to her surprise and delight, Kara and Lena appeared on the screen together. The crowd erupted into cheers and playful whistles, urging them to share a kiss.

Lena's heart skipped a beat as she turned to Kara, her eyes filled with a mixture of nerves and anticipation. She knew that her feelings for Kara ran deeper than just friendship.

Without a moment of hesitation, Kara leaned in, her lips meeting Lena's in a gentle, lingering kiss. Lena's senses heightened as she tasted the sweetness of the churros they had just enjoyed, the flavor mixing with the tenderness of Kara's lips. It was a moment of bliss, made even more magical by the cheering crowd surrounding them.

When they finally broke apart, their eyes wide with shock, Kara seemed to regain her composure remarkably quickly. She simply smiled at Lena and turned her attention back to the game, as if nothing extraordinary had happened.

Lena, on the other hand, was left reeling. She couldn't help but wonder if the kiss meant something more to Kara, if it was a reflection of the deeper connection Lena felt between them. But she couldn't bring herself to ask, afraid that her confession would ruin their precious friendship.

She spent the rest of the game, distracted, her mind reeling and her lips still tingling.

A sudden commotion interrupted her thoughts and a bat came flying towards Lena, hurtling through the air with alarming speed. Before she could react, Kara's superhuman reflexes kicked in. In a blur of motion, she snatched the bat out of thin air, effortlessly splintering it into pieces.

Realizing the potential questions that would arise if anyone noticed Kara's superhuman feat, Lena knew they had to leave immediately. She hastily led Kara out of the stadium, making sure to avoid any curious glances.

Once safely inside Lena's car, they both let out relieved breaths and laughter. Lena turned to Kara, her eyes filled with gratitude and admiration. "Kara Danvers, you are my hero," she exclaimed, a smile tugging at her lips.

Kara's bashful smile lit up her face, but it quickly faded into a pensive expression. Her eyebrows furrowed, and Lena couldn't help but feel a twinge of worry. "What's wrong?" Lena asked, concern lacing her voice.

Kara hesitated for a moment before speaking. "The kiss... what was that, Lena?" she asked, her voice filled with a mix of hope and uncertainty.

Lena's heart pounded in her chest as she searched Kara's eyes for a clue, unsure of how to respond. Fearful of ruining their friendship, she remained silent.

Kara's expression fell slightly, disappointment flickering across her features. "Because friends don't kiss like that, Lena," she whispered softly, her voice tinged with vulnerability.

Lena's breath caught in her throat as she mustered up the courage to speak. "That's because I don't want you as just a best friend, Kara," she finally confessed, her voice barely above a whisper.

Kara's eyes widened, and Lena could see a fleeting moment of relief wash over her. Without a moment's hesitation, Kara leaned across the console of the car, closing the distance between them. Their lips met once again in a passionate kiss, their emotions mingling in the warm embrace.

As they pulled apart, Lena couldn't contain the happiness that flooded her heart. Her fears had been replaced with a profound joy, knowing that Kara reciprocated her feelings. They shared a moment of silence, their eyes locked together, before bursting into smiles.

In that stolen moment, Lena knew that their relationship had shifted, hurtling into realms that Lena hadn't even dared to dream about.

[moistvonlipwig]

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right on 🫡

What is my absolute favorite of their scenes and why do I love it so much?

Oh I don't know...there are many good classic scenes. For the sake of spicing it up I'll talk about a moment that I don't often see people discuss and that is actually from an episode that I otherwise don't really like, namely: the scene in 5x19 where Kara is on the ground with kryptonite coursing through her veins and then Lena's anti-kryptonite device flies in and attaches itself to her suit and before it's even started working, Kara smiles and laughs. Just...the fact that Kara is in (if we are to believe her assessment in S3) incredible pain and that doesn't even matter to her because Lena's on her side again. I think that's a really sweet moment and it captures a lot of what I wish S5 & S6 had been about for them lol.

8. Am I most interested in fics about them that focus on fluff, angst, humor, smut or actual plot?

Angst, humor, & plot are all good with me. Fluff & smut tend to bore me.

9. What is my ideal endgame for them?

Hm, I could envision several good endgames for them (none of which include Lena being a witch or Kara becoming editor-in-chief or revealing herself to the world lol). I think ideally Kara would eventually become known as Superwoman and maybe would become more of an independent freelance journalist, while Lena would run the Lena Luthor Foundation which presumably funds Good Things. Lena would keep kryptonite on hand in a secret vault in case of emergency and Kara would be cool with it, and Lena would also design all kinds of suits & accessories for Kara (sorry Brainy but your Supergirl suit design was not very good). I like the idea of Kara having a longer, more stately cape especially as she grows older and more confident.

I do think they'd both want to get married, probably in a Kryptonian or Kryptonian-inspired ceremony. I think they should get a cat or a dog or both. I like lena-in-a-red-dress's fic where Lena adopts Dex-Starr the Red Lantern cat so let's say their cat is Dex-Starr. And their dog can be Rex from sango-blep's comics. Rex is cute.

I like the idea of them having kids, though I also think they'd be OK without them. If they did have kids I think the kids would be Luthors, not Danverses or Luthor-Danverses. They would also probably be created via birthing matrix or a similar technology invented by Lena because I can't imagine either Kara or Lena wanting to get pregnant lol. I like Leo Alexander as a name for a boy. I'm less sure about names for girls (maybe Sasha? Elizabeth? Linda?) but I don't like Lori, I know that's popular because of an old comic where Lena has a daughter named Lori but I am not a fan.

16. What are three of my fic recs for this ship? And (in the event that I’ve written something for them) one of my fics involving them that I’m most proud of?

Catfishy Business by whythinktoomuch is an iconic and deeply funny fic.

lena dies on a wednesday by karalovesallthegirls is a GREAT time loop fic that ingeniously puts us in the shoes of someone who doesn't know they're in a time loop. I think you've said you've read it? Still, it bears re-reading.

There are so many other great fics I could rec but I'll rec one that is a little bit lesser-known, since I've already named two very well-known fics. Which is and darling (is there a cure for this hunger?) by m_oliverfan, aka There Are Consequences To Sending Nyxly To Eternal Torment Land, Actually.

I've only finished one fic for SC so far which is laid in thine enemy's grave? - in truth, i dig it, which I believe you've also read. ^_^

20. How and when should they have gotten together?

I think in a better S5 where they started talking to each other sooner -- end of 5x13 would've been a good time -- and had some time to work through some stuff, I could see an end-of-S5 confession or kiss working. In terms of the actual show, which was never very good at writing romance, I think a Korrasami-style 'they end up together or are implied to end up together as part of Kara finding herself' would've charmed me.

[leighlew3]

So lemme get this straight… Kara/Lena on SGCW = baited, open ended, Lena Luthor a hero Kara/Lena in DC CW comics = baited, open ended, Lena Luthor a hero Kara/Lena in future DC comics/movies = TBD, anything could happen

Meanwhile...

Kara/Mon-El on SGCW = ended forever Legion of Super-Heroes animated movie = Mon-El a villain, no romance

New DC Comics = Mon-El related to Kara, no romance Between all this + major DC artists and writers proving to be pro-Kara/Lena, I’d say “Supercorp” could still happen at some point in really any media, meanwhile Mon-El is a character that may never recover from the awful SGCW version and “Karamel” is dead forever in all versions so far. 

Interesting, and ironic.

P.S. Happy for KaraDox fans in the meantime, since the LOSH animated film apparently leans into that. I’ve never had any issues with that duo, though obviously I still think Supercorp is 100% the future as far as Kara’s romantic destiny if they want her to have an iconic, Clois or BatCat type of a lasting legacy that stands the test of time, as far as love interests are concerned. 

[dreiser7]

Title: The Science Guild (Or How Kara Danvers Became A Nerd Icon) Chapters: 9/? Fandom: Supergirl (TV 2015) Rating: Mature Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Kara Danvers/Lena Luthor Characters: Kara Danvers, Lena Luthor Additional Tags: Romance, Femslash, Humor, Inspired By Tumblr, Kara Loves Science, Social Media Summary: Science was always a comfort to Kara. It was a reminder of Krypton. Of her people, culture, and family. She focused her attention on studying it when she first arrived on Earth for that reason. Then the years passed, Kara learned how to hide her differences, become more human, and that focus was lost. At least until Snapper reassigned her to cover the science and technology beat at The Tribune. Author’s Note: I'm back! Thank a month break from touring and a new laptop for inspiration. I want to finish this at maybe 12 chapters. Not sure yet. I am committed to completing it. Having a laptop rather than iPad helps in my productivity somehow. Maybe it's the keyboard? Who knows.

Music is from folks I love, some of which I'll see in June at Hellfest.

Trying to get back into fandom socialization so if any of you are on Discord and have servers I should join or want to message me just look for dreiser5418

Puerto Rico story is something that happened the last time I played there. Rain is no joke.

Also smut warning if you need that. I write way too late at night.

[secondgenerationnerd]

Who are the superfamily in your headcanons? I know Jon & probably Superman himself.

Got any headcanons about little Johnny himself?

Ooooo

So we got the iconic Ma and Pa Kent, who I like to think met when Martha was running from cops during a protest, jumped into Jonathan’s truck, and told him to fucking drive. Ain’t no one taking that from me

We got Ms. Kara Zoe-el with her wife Lena Luthor.

Clark and Lois still madly in love, Ms. Lois roasting her husband every chance they get. They are known by their grandchildren as “Mama Lois” and “Papa Clark”

Their oldest is their foster son Christopher Kent and his lovely wife Thara. They end up with six kids in total— Sebastian and Atticus (half-brainiac twin boys), Beau (their biological son), River (adopted shapeshifting meta, gender fluid), Everett (second bio son) and Carter (their surprise baby girl, again theirs biologically)

The middle son is Mr. Kon Kent, who marries Tim Drake. Together they have their beautiful baby girl, Grace.

Then the baby is Jonny Kent himself, with his beautiful bride Mar’i. They adopt three meta children (Charlie, Peter, Mary Margaret/ M&M) and have one biological daughter (Laney)

As for headcannons

I stand by Jon refusing to wear pants. Diaper no issue. But pants? He refused

Loved seeing the “Aminals” on the farm

Gained his brothers when he was like 8 and accepted them as the older ones without a second thought