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theredquill · 1 year ago
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fics : of being reckless and young ( how damage gets done ) & we’re in love
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atopvisenyashill · 5 months ago
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i think it’s insane that the bar here is “well jon wasn’t made into a practical slave like falia flowers” he shouldn’t have had to be kept in a cage and fed dog food or whatever the hell for the way he’s treated to have been unkind, unfair, and wrong.
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gsabt · 25 days ago
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AGOT; Bran I
Prologue ↔ Catelyn I
Preface
I was thinking about including a chapter summary in the post but also didn't want to fluff the post because I'd always meant for these to be relatively small, input would be lovely! (Also if it wasn’t obvious Big G is George. In the clerb we all fam.)
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Chapter Summary
Ah Bran, the sweet summer child is he not? From my memory, I typically tended to enjoy his chapters in AGOT, ACOK on the other hand was a coin toss but mostly because I only recently interacted with the material through audiobook as I work around machinery so my attention wanes. I would also rather spend my breaks sleeping than reading. I'm going to make it a habit to read before bed however because my screen time is wild.
Anyhow, Eddard graying at 35 feels normal for the time period ASOIAF is set and I'm only commenting on it because I'm still younger than Ned and already graying... I'm just a jealous hater with premature graying. I love how Bran gives the reader insight on the softer side of Ned. He is a boy who loves his father and Ned is a father who loves his children.
He had a grim cast to his grey eyes this day, and he seemed not at all the man who would sit before the fire in the evening and talk softly of the age of heroes and the children of the forest.
Thanks for the tears Big G. I think it’s fairly obvious that it’s Gared being executed here and you know what, this man got the easy way out. He was saved from so much bullshit, you will be missed king!!
When it comes to the Valyrian sword, Ice, I’ve always wondered what GRRM meant by spell-forged. ASOIAF obviously has magical elements so it could literally mean spells/incantations especially since during ASOS when Ice is eventually melted down and forged into two swords and Danys dragons are well grown into the world which IIRC people remark that magic has returned to the world. This is also supported by the fact that in ACOK, the pyromancers produce wildfire much faster and question if dragons roam the world again. But I digress, it’s still boggling just how large Ice is on its own, realistically that sword would stand taller than me by a good chunk, it deeply bothered me how in the show the blades weren’t dark similar to how they were described to be in the books.
Also that unnecessarily long ass title for King Robert just to execute someone. I know my AuDHD ass would’ve triggered someone. I wouldn’t survive a day in ASOIAF, at best I’d be that guy playing the horn in Shrek 2 when Fiona’s parents letter is being delivered.
You could also infer that at this point on Theon really won’t get a-head in life (shoot me for that). Robb and Jon just guys being dudes (which i adore). I can also tell why I loved Jon as a teenager he was literally my TYPE. Stoic twinkerbells for the win.
Theon Greyjoy said, “There’s not been a direwolf sighted south of the Wall in two hundred years.”
“I see one now,” Jon replied.
Jon being an ass but I excuse everything Jon does. 100 points to House Snow. It always bothered me how they refer to Rickon as a baby despite his being 3 but I understand why he would be called that in ASOIAF world since infant/child mortality is so high, just something I nitpick at all the time throughout the books tbh.
Jon petitioning to keep the direwolf pups was always such a heart moment and a great introduction to his character, especially through the eyes of Bran, his little brother who regards him well. Near the end of the chapter, Jon gets his own pup of course. I was always under the impression (after learning about R+L) that Ghost was the earliest sign that Jon was a Targ. Of course it’s not book canon (yet perhaps) but it is canon in the show also known as the dumpster fire of Dave and Dan. Someone needs to hold me and Big G away from them. I digress.
I know there is a theory that Bloodraven had Jon Snow find Ghost and I think it could be plausible. Could. I’m not inclined to think one way or the other entirely since none of the other characters made comment or validated what Jon had heard, Bran clearly didn’t hear anything aside from the sounds of ambience but I also assume that Jon had acquired the attention of the others as the text says:
They watched him dismount where the direwolf lay dead in the snow, watched him kneel.
But again, I was never fully inclined to think more one way than the other when it came to this little theory. It’s nice food for thought. And if it’s true, stay away from the children, Bloodraven. I’m watching you…
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theredpharaoah · 5 months ago
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@cousinoyaya Oh you want a Corlys show? We really don’t give a fuck. Do you see anyone else’s name next to George’s on the book cover? Spoiler alert: if not, then there’s most likely no co-author. What’s comical is the hypocrisy of this reply. You’re galled, gooped, and seem to be perpetually gagging…on my dick. This is the second time you then came up in my replies being rude. Not one “I want…” was in my comment on the upcoming list of series. I rhetorically asked “Who tf wants a Corlys show”. So of course, your loser ass stepped forward to say “Well actCHually…🤓”. And because your brain cells seem to be in the midst of a never-ending civil war; I misspelled “actually” on purpose there. Everything else I wrote was speculation about what would be covered in the series, not me stating what I wanted.
Oh no! I’m entitled for saying they better have *checks notes*…good writers? Hmm. Ok. But that’s funny coming from you considering you liked a comment of me pointing out the idiocy of HOTD’s writers RIGHT before you typed up this steaming pile of bullshit. Is it Oochie Wally or is it One Mic? Im entitled, but you come on MY blog; a place designed for me to post MY opinions relating to MY interests, and had the nerve to reply to MY post telling me to stfu. Well no, b!ch, you stfu. And I can say that, cuz this is my blog and I rule here. You have no say here. That is, unless, you’re a co-owner of this blog? I was the only bitch running things the last time I checked, but mayhaps you know something I don’t? Me posting my opinions in a community I’m a part of. Entitled would be me emailing all my opinions on GRRM’s story, and what I think needs to be changed, to him. Who am I acting entitled towards? HBO? Showrunners and writers who don’t even know the series they’re supposed to be adapting?
But since you brought it up and there’s no time like the present; George has enlisted me as a co-author on TWoW and ADoS. Mmhmm. Yes, it’s true. I will also be writing on all forthcoming HBO adaptations of ASOIAF. Yup! Yup! Yup! The whore’s finally out of the pleasure garden. They saw how kunt my application was and immediately put me through.
*audience applauds*
Thank you! Thank you! And I know you, @cousinoyaya, as my BIGGEST and BRIGHTEST fan is so excited for me. And because I love you and my peers on here so much, I’m gonna give you guys a couple of teasers about what’s to come:
1. We’re redoing Game of Thrones and will be extensively exploring the nature of Theon and Jon’s romantic relationship. George and me went back n forth on this a lot. He wanted it to be a throuple with Robb if you can believe it!
2. For Nymeria’s show, we’ve come up with a new reason as to why Garin did what he did. You see, Garin The Great wasn’t really mad about the turtles. He was mad because he found out his Valyrian Dragonlord lover was fucking some messy bottom from Tyrosh. Nymeria tried to tell him that there were other spears in the armory but he really wasn’t tryna hear all that. Garin didn’t actually die. He was brought to Valyria and ended up marrying the guy. Lived happily ever after. What an asshole, amirite?
3. We will NOT be going forward with the 9 Voyages show. *Nobody moved*. Sorry, Oyaya. I know you were really looking forward to that. Instead we’re doing a show focusing on the Black Pearls of Braavos. I’m excited to announce that we’ve already casted Nicki Minaj as the OG Bellegere Otherys, Flo Milli as Bellenore - the OG Black Pearl, Doechii as Narha Otherys, and Lil Nas X as Balerion Otherys. We’ve also created two new characters for the main cast: twins who will be played by Doja Cat and Saweetie. They begin acting classes next month and we’re all just so exited over here at GRRM productions!
4. And finally, the project we’re all most excited for; a show based off of me pulling up to your location and whooping your ass. No funny shit, if you got a problem you can block or scroll. If you have an actual issue with an opinion I’ve put forward, present your counter-argument in a respectful manner and talk to me nice while you do so. I don’t go into people’s comments calling them out their name and telling them to STFU, and I expect the same courtesy to be extended to me. Keep it cute, cuz I’m the definitely the bitch to make it ugly. Have a blessed day.
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The Conquest and Nymeria better have good fucking writers. Matter of fact: lemme submit an application. Who tf wants to watch a show about Corlys’ 9 voyages? Who asked for that? The Golden Empire of Yi Ti? Are they gonna give us the Blood Betrayal and show us how it continues to occur possibly all throughout history, but especially during the Targ dynasty?
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esther-dot · 2 years ago
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Remember when some fans claim that Sansa was given Barbery Dustin story in show because of her icy nature and politically shrewd. They also pointed out that maybe Barbery will be leading North and fight against Boltons. So Sansa being Stark heir leading North against Boltons who wronged her family and ruling WF effectively is impossible. I want TWOW to put and Sansa to succeed just to see antis how will they accuse her of stealing other character story.
Hey! I’m a firm believer in QitN Barbrey, y’all are just haters. 😂
I love both versions of Sansa, and comparing show Sansa to a woman who plans to give Ned’s bones to her dogs is offensive to me as show Sansa dearly loved her father. Also, show Sansa wasn’t bitter even when she believed Jon betrayed her. She was heartbroken, but remained loyal to the family, to him, and thought of him as her king until the end. Barb’s hatred for Ned burns bright years later for what I would argue is a much smaller grievance. These are not remotely similar characters.
However, as someone who thinks D&D were using info from Martin, I understand the impulse to draw connections between book stuff and show stuff and think that it can be helpful in guessing where things are going. But, I did laugh that the people who latched onto this idea were the very same people who insist the show has nothing to do with the books, that all the plot points are wrong/that Sansa isn’t going North, so it makes no sense to then say, “it will be totally different because D&D read the books and gave Sansa the characterization of this minor character.”
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As if D&D didn’t alter everyone’s characterization from the beginning.
And yet, I have to point out that in the books, Tyrion compares Sansa’s courtesy to the Wall, which is the tiniest bit icy, so I’m not sure why Sansa, once she is pushed into a political arena trying to guide people who don’t initially respect her, having a little coolness to her interactions was suddenly such a problem. 
In s6-8 she had plenty of soft moments, she is the one who showed the most open affection to the other Starks, and even in s8 when everything was off kilter, she still had moments of raw emotion that broke through the bullshit, so it isn’t the case that she truly had an icy nature, either. She was wearing her armor save when she felt safe enough not to do so (her reunion with Bran, a few moments with Arya, with Theon, several scenes with Jon…), so I don’t think the basic idea is as far removed from the book as people pretend. Obviously D&D reinterpreted her, but I think it’s weird that fans act like later seasons Sansa was more ooc than earlier seasons Sansa. They interpreted her differently all along but all along, I still saw traces of my girl.
I suppose since Barb mentioned her dogs and hates Ramsay, we could say that having Ramsay eaten by his own dogs is something that she might oversee rather than Sansa (who will not be married to him or raped by him), so maybe the idea was that it would be ooc for book Sansa to watch someone get eaten alive. And I guess this would be similar to how they had Arya do some Lady Stoneheart-y things, so, maybe there was a swticheroo there?
That specific scene aside, there’s a line about how every battle for Winterfell has had a Stark present, and I don’t think Martin dropped that in there for it to be retaken by someone other than a Stark. I mean, Barb does hate Ramsay in addition to hating Ned, so I guess she can betray the Boltons and decide she wants to be QitN instead of letting them have all the fun (I’m not remembering anything specific pointing in that direction, just entertaining the notion), but I don’t see how that is a substitute for Starks reclaiming Winterfell or Starks ruling the North again. It could happen as a stepping stone, but it’s not interchangeable and wouldn’t impact the endgame of a Stark being in Winterfell. To pretend that Sansa’s role as a Stark in the North was a total show fabrication is odd.
I don’t have any specific ideas of how we’re gonna match up the timelines and have the necessary forces to retake Winterfell, but it’s interesting to me that as much as Barb has a problem with Ramsay, she dislikes Ned too, and combining that with the impending Stark succession crisis is a really fun thing to do because of what it could mean for her interactions with the Stark kids, lots of anger and resentment, as they potentially work together to defeat a common foe regardless. That’s a path too.
Whether Sansa is the key to reclaiming Winterfell by bringing the KotV (which I believe was the plan at one point), or she arrives later because of timeline issues, I’m confused why people would think that Stark kids popping up in the North won’t impact the politics more than these minor characters? Wont the supporting cast be how Martin fleshes out the rival claims, as the Starks won’t be at each other’s throats out of any power craze of their own? And we need those characters to make the revelation of Jon’s daddy to be a huge political issue, as the Starks aren’t gonna disown him, but we need someone to raise hell. It seems to me that the Starks and the power players in the North have distinct roles and that the interplay there will matter.
I’m not sure why even other Sansa fans are so adamantly apposed to her ending up in the North. That isn’t actually an anti position, that’s common even among her fans, but I truly thought her “If I am ever a queen, I'll make them love me.” line felt like a very direct compare and contrast moment between her and Cersei which we would get to see manifest when she came into a position of political power at some point, and seeing as she is the oldest living true born Stark, I think that position would be in the North as LoW or QitN. I don’t think that’s a stretch at all, especially now that we know Bran will be king elsewhere.
Anyway, Barbie is my queen forever and ever amen!
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themockingpoint · 3 years ago
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Hope
Sansa had been the Queen in the North for years now. But she wasn’t happy. Between the War of the Five Kings and the Long Night there were so many fires that Sansa was being forced to put out that it has been literal years and she is still putting them out.
Sansa was alone and would probably be the last of the Stark bloodline. She could never marry again. Not after Ramsay, and Joffrey and… Theon… She would never be able to trust someone like that. She would never fully be able to give herself to another.
“My la… Your Grace.” Halis Mollen said, knowing her since she was a little girl the transition between Lady and Queen was not the easiest for the Captain of the Guard.
“Yes, Hallis?”
“There is a woman here that needs to speak to you. She said it is extremely important.”
“Did she say what it was about?” Sansa asked, curiously. Not many women would demand to speak with a queen and Halis knew Arya so that ruled her out
“No but she said it was important.” Halis said and his nose wrinkled slightly. “I think she is a wildling.”
Despite how much they did side by side, the Northerners still were… wary of the Free Folk and that was a more generous interpretation of the word.
But if it were a wildling there is a chance that it could be a message from Jon! Sansa picked up her skirts and rushed to her solar only to find… not Jon. There was a blonde woman that Sansa had never seen before who was singing, but was interrupted by Sansa slamming the door open.
“J- oh. Hello.” Sansa said, quickly able to smother her disappointment. Something that did not exactly go unnoticed.
“You don’t have to pretend. I know I’m not Snow.” The blonde snarked. “I am Val.”
“Hello Val.” Sansa said, her bluntness reminding Sansa of Arya. “Welcome to Winterfell.”
“I… gonna cut through any bullshit.” Val said, “Snow… He…”
Sansa's world went blurry and she stumbled only being caught by Val stopped her from hitting the ground. The woman, seemingly a warrior, easily maneuvered her to one of her chairs.
Jon was her last real connection to her family. Now he is gone. All of her family was gone. Bran… well that was not Bran anymore, he has made that perfectly clear. Arya has not been heard from since she set sail and Jon… Jon has gone north of the wall yet to be heard from since he was sentenced there. She always planned on bringing him back once she was fully established in the North, but now she’d never get that chance.
“H- How?” Sansa croaked.
“Those… Unfettered?” Val said. “They were still pissed and were looking for him. They weren’t treating those who they thought were harboring him with kid gloves. They found us and he decided to hold them off so we could escape.”
“Tormund?” Sansa asked. She doubted the rowdy man would leave Jon to his fate nor could not be here if that were the case.
“He went with them.”
Sansa now knew that she was the last of her house. It was a lonely feeling. She wondered if this was how her father felt after the Rebellion. She was drawn for her wallowing as a chirping noise came from beside her desk.
“Is that…”
“Yes.” Val said, walking over and picking up a bundle of blankets. Sansa’s eyes widened looking at the little girl.
“C- Can I hold her?” Sansa asked, and Val handed her over.
“I know Snow would have wanted her to grow up here.” Val said, leaning on Sansa’s desk. ���And if it is not as I have anything left up there.”
Sansa ignored her though, staring down at the little girl in her arms. She had her mother’s blonde hair and Sansa’s father’s eye. Her brother’s eyes. She… Sansa had family.
“What’s her name?”
“Hope.” Val said.
“Hello. Welcome to Winterfell.” Sansa said, smiling while bouncing her new ward in her arms. “Hope Stark.”
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istumpysk · 3 years ago
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Operation Stumpy Re-Read
AGOT: Bran VI (Chapter 53)
Lord Rickard himself led them, his sons Harrion and Eddard and Torrhen riding beside him beneath night-black banners emblazoned with the white sunburst of their House. Old Nan said they had Stark blood in them, going back hundreds of years, but they did not look like Starks to Bran. They were big men, and fierce, faces covered with thick beards, hair worn loose past the shoulders. Their cloaks were made of skins, the pelts of bear and seal and wolf.    
Must be the male line, because Alys Karstark is described as looking similar to Arya.
Starks are smol beans, confirmed.
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Only two days ago one of Lord Bolton's men knifed one of Lord Cerwyn's at the Smoking Log.
Oh look, a Bolton man knifing an ally.
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"Don't act the boy with me, Bran," Robb said.
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He was using the voice of Robb the Lord when he said it; Bran knew that meant there was no appeal.    
The dichotomy between man and boy is a persistent theme with all male Starklings.
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"Twelve thousand men, or near enough as makes no matter."
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"He must march soon, or not at all," Maester Luwin said. "The winter town is full to bursting, and this army of his will eat the countryside clean if it camps here much longer.
Tell me again how on top of all their own people, Winterfell will host three dragons, eight thousand Unsullied, and every man from every khalasar during winter.
Almost like that was bullshit.
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The only tricky part was doors. Sometimes Hodor forgot that he had Bran on his back, and that could be painful when he went through a door.     
I know what this is referring to, but I’m not sure how.
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His baby brother had been wild as a winter storm since he learned Robb was riding off to war, weeping and angry by turns. He'd refused to eat, cried and screamed for most of a night, even punched Old Nan when she tried to sing him to sleep, and the next day he'd vanished. Robb had set half the castle searching for him, and when at last they'd found him down in the crypts, Rickon had slashed at them with a rusted iron sword he'd snatched from a dead king's hand, and Shaggydog had come slavering out of the darkness like a green-eyed demon. The wolf was near as wild as Rickon; he'd bitten Gage on the arm and torn a chunk of flesh from Mikken's thigh. It had taken Robb himself and Grey Wind to bring him to bay. Farlen had the black wolf chained up in the kennels now, and Rickon cried all the more for being without him.    
Noo the baby. :(
But also, clues?? Rickon vanished, half the castle searching for him, and when they found him he was in the... crypts? No, I don’t like that.
BUT he’s also fighting with a king’s sword, aided by his demon direwolf?
Man, I don’t know! I’m going to ask the audience.
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Stout, grey-haired Maege Mormont, dressed in mail like a man, told Robb bluntly that he was young enough to be her grandson, and had no business giving her commands … but as it happened, she had a granddaughter she would be willing to have him marry.
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Lord Cerwyn means to take his daughter south with us. To cook for him, he says. Theon is certain I'll find the girl in my bedroll one night.
Want to know how I know something was terribly off about Jon and Sansa’s storyline on the show? While attempting to secure allies for two separate wars, at no point did anyone petition for marriage.
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"She says Father conspired at treason with the king's brothers," he read. "King Robert is dead, and Mother and I are summoned to the Red Keep to swear fealty to Joffrey. She says we must be loyal, and when she marries Joffrey she will plead with him to spare our lord father's life." His fingers closed into a fist, crushing Sansa's letter between them. "And she says nothing of Arya, nothing, not so much as a word. Damn her! What's wrong with the girl?"                 
Bran felt all cold inside. "She lost her wolf," he said, weakly, remembering the day when four of his father's guardsmen had returned from the south with Lady's bones. Summer and Grey Wind and Shaggydog had begun to howl before they crossed the drawbridge, in voices drawn and desolate. Beneath the shadow of the First Keep was an ancient lichyard, its headstones spotted with pale lichen, where the old Kings of Winter had laid their faithful servants. It was there they buried Lady, while her brothers stalked between the graves like restless shadows.
Robb, you’re a bright young man, surely you could figure out if your father is imprisoned, your sister is not the one composing these letters. Not your best moment.
She lost her wolf. :(
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She had gone south, and only her bones had returned.
People loved to use this as a predictor for Sansa’s future. How could they not see it’s screaming Lyanna?
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A faint wind sighed through the godswood and the red leaves stirred and whispered. Summer bared his teeth. "You hear them, boy?" a voice asked.    
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"No, stay," Bran commanded her. "Tell me what you meant, about hearing the gods."                 
Osha studied him. "You asked them and they're answering. Open your ears, listen, you'll hear."
Is it the Old Gods or is it something else?
Brandon the Builder sought the aid of the children while raising the Wall. He was taken to a secret place to meet with them, but could not at first understand their speech, which was described as sounding like the song of stones in a brook, or the wind through leaves, or the rain upon the water. - TWoIaF
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Maester Luwin sighed. "I can teach you history, healing, herblore. I can teach you the speech of ravens, and how to build a castle, and the way a sailor steers his ship by the stars. I can teach you to measure the days and mark the seasons, and at the Citadel in Oldtown they can teach you a thousand things more. But, Bran, no man can teach you magic."    
Wait a minute. WAIT A MINUTE. I think he did it again!
I can teach you the speech of ravens -> Bran
How to build a castle -> Jon
The way a sailor steers his ship by the stars -> Arya
No Sansa or Rickon, but have no fear, Maester Luwin is unable to teach Bran how to be a Queen or High Septon. Like the Maiden & Warrior, sometimes a kid or two is missing.
JON THE BUILDER. 🤩
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Beyond the castle walls, a roar of sound went up. The foot soldiers and townsfolk were cheering Robb as he rode past, Bran knew; cheering for Lord Stark, for the Lord of Winterfell on his great stallion, with his cloak streaming and Grey Wind racing beside him. They would never cheer for him that way, he realized with a dull ache. He might be the lord in Winterfell while his brother and father were gone, but he was still Bran the Broken. He could not even get off his own horse, except to fall.    
How could you possibly read his point of view, and passages like the one above, and come away with the opinion that two Targaryens and a pretend one are the key to saving the world? This fandom is tragic.
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"Hodor?" he said sadly.                 
"Hodor," Bran agreed, wondering what it meant.
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Final thoughts:
On a re-read it’s almost laughable how obvious it is Robb is marching to his death.
-> return to menu <-
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heartintact · 1 year ago
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Theon took a moment to consider Arwyn’s defense, trying to determine if she was trying to fool him or if she genuinely believed there could be some truth to the stories. It was hard not to become pessimistic when the constant investigation only led them to find out that everything had a logical explanation. At least, that had been his experience so far. “Are you sure about that? ‘Cause nine out of ten times, these curses are just fables told to the tourists to get some souverins sold.” But that didn’t mean he wasn’t going to do his job, so he nodded after rolling his eyes. “As soon as the cameras roll, I’ll act like I’m a healthy mixture of terrified and curious, I promise,” he jokingly assured. “I’ll even make sure my hands shake while holding the mic, if that makes you forgive my macho man bullshit. I wouldn't wanna be in your bad books.” He fired back with a smirk, fighting not to open his mouth and cynically add that if this didn’t turn out to be another fiasco, he’d be buying the first round of drinks.
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of all their years spent researching all things unexplained and paranormal, this was the first time arwyn truly believed they were onto something. most other cases had led to dead ends, or revealed to be an unquestionable hoax, but the more they picked this case apart, immersing themselves in the rich history behind the urban legend, the more promising it became. there was something there, she was sure of it. "maybe because they're real? at least somewhat... they've gotta be." irritation laced thick in her tone, hoping this little camping trip wouldn't be filled with him doubting the very stories they'd come there to document. "look, if we're gonna do this, can you at least try and pretend you believe? it'll come off as disingenuous if you don't— trust me, the audience can tell. you're gonna ruin the whole thing with your macho man skeptic bullshit."
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owlsinathens · 2 years ago
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✍, 🛒, 💌, 🧐, 🤲, 🎉
✍ Do I have a beta? On and off. For some time now, the wonderful and talented @st-clements-steps has agreed to look over my fics and ficlets, but I would say she's more my Alpha reader than a beta and I am forever grateful for all her help 🥰🥰🥰
🛒 Some common things/themes/feels etc I like to have in my fics.... hm, difficult one. I always think the readers are probably better to answer this questions than myself. Plus, I only have the one pairing I'm fixated on, so there's a finite number of fics I could write without repeating themes etc, and that point has long passed 😅 I can say though, I'll never get tired of throwing in some sort of Jon is Theon's saltwife stuff.
💌 How do I feel about comments and feedback? Love. Like, LOVE. It's my salt and bread. A huge motivation to keep me going/writing. I live to entertain, so someone telling me they liked my stuff or it made them laugh/cry/etc makes my heart soar. I get that commenting can be hard, and taking a lot of energy. I used to be bad at commenting myself (it's still HARD). But getting feedback on a labour of love is just. so. amazing. I do welcome all kinds of comments, chatty ones, rambly ones, one liners, all of them. Of course I am over the moon when I get a long comment that *engages with the story* (that is straight up ambrosia to me) but just knowing that someone took time to write ANYTHING will always fill me with joy.
🧐 Do I spend much time on research for my stuff? Depends on the story. Like for the pub AU, almost no research because I've been to the places described, have read the books mentioned, and I've had many cats lol. So that one was born mostly from experience. Another example, the vamp AU, was mostly me bullshitting until it became a story. Stories set in a canon universe require more research (gotta love the wiki of ice and fire ♥️). And then there's the behemoth of a Victorian AU that'll be my next 'modern' AU and I've been researching for months and still very much at the beginning 🙈
🤲 A snippet from a WIP - I'm choosing 1x1 (hey @november-rising you may remember this - key word "No" 😘)
“You wanted a decision,” Theon mutters, still not daring to look at Jon’s face. “I came here to ask the same of you.”
“I – what?” Jon leans back in his chair. “I thought I made myself clear. I’m willing to go all the way, but only if you – what are you doing?”
“You can’t decide. I won’t accept it.” Theon bites down on the inside of his cheek as the first glove hits the floor with a dull thud. “Not without you knowing everything. Not without you really seeing for yourself what you’re so eager to take.”
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littlerockerao3 · 3 years ago
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103 please 💙
I finally did it anon, I hope you like it!
Also, sorry if the ending kinda sucks I just god sad all of sudden and… yeah.
Btw, this is basically a compilation of Theon stealing Robb’s stuff
103. “Sharing is caring, now give me your fries”
Tw: mentions of sex and they’re naked at some point. Then it’s all just fluff.
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Robb’s so used to staying the night at Theon’s sometimes he gets confused when he wakes up alone at his own place. Today though, it’s not one of those mornings.
It’s late in the morning and he’s cooking eggs, in his boyfriend kitchen, when Theon comes join him.
“Is that my hoodie?” Robb asks. The white hoodie with a small wolf print on the left shoulder is the first things he sees after Theon’s messy hair.
Theon yawns loudly and shrugs, “I don’t know, could be. Let me check…” he stretches his arms above his head and the hoodie goes up and exposes his bare belly. Theon nods at that, “Definitely”.
That’s the thing when Theon steals Robb’s clothes, they always look too loose around his shoulders yet they’re too short to fully cover his belly when he’s stretching. Robb kind of loves how that makes him look younger than his age. It also makes his features look softer, and when his hair is all messy like that... god, all Robb wants is to cuddle with him on the couch all day long.
“You thief” he says instead, sticking his tongue out at him.
Theon just rolls his eyes, slips his hands inside the hoodie’s front pockets and presses a kiss to the corner of Robb’s lip, “It just smells so much like you, I love it”.
Robb snorts, amused. “Babe. You wear my clothes more than I do, they basically smell like you by now”.
He’s not wrong, and Robb knows Theon knows. Robb’s closet at his apartment is almost empty, by now, it’s all in Theon’s closet and drawers. Sometimes he wonders how come he hasn’t moved in with him already.
“Hey, sharing is caring” Theon replies, taking one hand out of his pockets to pinch Robb’s side. Robb swats that hand away and rolls his eyes, “It is, it is.”
“You made breakfast?”
“Will be ready in five, can you set the table?”
Robb checks on the eggs, and when he turns back around to stare at Theon, he’s caught up in a proper kiss. It doesn’t last as long as he expected nor as they both wanted, but they know there’s going to be time for it later. It’s Sunday, after all.
“Sure gorgeous” Theon caresses his cheek, then moves to grab the plates from the cupboard and all they need. Robb’s hoodie goes up one more time, and it’s leaving Theon’s lower back exposed. Robb smirks, stare at those cute little dimples right above Theon’s glutes, and thinks that that hoodie is going to come off in a little.
*
Theon parts from Robb’s lips after the umpteenth overly dramatic howl coming from downstairs, “Why the hell is he howling like that?!”
Robb snorts, rests his head on the pillow, his breath struggling to go back to normal. He looks up at Theon, who’s still over him, hands still resting on Robb’s bare and sweaty chest.
“I think I forgot to fill up his water bowl” he says, his voice muffled by another ark and dramatic howl. Theon rolls his eyes, “Jeez, that’s a husky not a wolf”.
That could be: Robb found Grey Wind and his siblings in some alley, he just knows his mom was a wolf. His dad could have been a husky, cause Grey Wind is by far the most dramatic animal Robb has ever had to deal with.
Theon jumps out the bed, Robb already misses his warmth, and walks towards the door.
“Hey, don’t walk naked past him” Robb says, fixing the pillow under his head and running a had through his sweaty hair.
Theon huffs loudly, “God, he walks naked past me everyday Robb”, he says, yet still turns around and opens the nightstand’s drawer and grabs a pair of underwear.
“Hey that’s my underwear” Robb realizes.
“It’s the first pair I found” Theon rolls his eyes, as he puts the red underwear Robb’s mother got for him a few months ago, along with tons of more stuff, when Robb finally got his own place.
“It’s still mine” he mumbles.
Theon sighs, hands resting on his hips, eyes frowning in his typical “don’t start” stare. “For fuck’s sake Robb, it’s your house don’t you remember? Of course it’s your stuff.”
Robb shrugs, thinking about how actually his own place is filled with Theon’s stuff, and how Theon’s place is filled with Robb’s stuff.
“But there’s plenty of your stuff too here” he says, in fact.
That causes Theon’s upper lip to curl up lightly: Robb’s noticed how much he likes when somebody points out things like this. He just loves to know his stuff is at Robb’s place and Robb’s stuff is at his place, Robb guesses. That’s fair. Robb likes it too, though he doesn’t show it so much: it’s not like he wears Theon’s clothes everyday, unlike Theon does with his clothes, instead.
Theon puts one knee on the bed and arches forward to kiss Robb’s still puffy lips “Just grab one of mine so we’re even. And sharing is caring, by the way.”
He’s about to kiss him one more time, suggesting a round two would be very much appreciated, but Grey Wind starts barking and howling again.
Theon grunts almost as loudly at the dogs, only to yell right after, “I’m coming you dipshit, calm down!”
“Hey! Do not call our child that!”
“Fuck you”
One of Robb’s eyebrows rises as he stares at his boyfriend making his way downstairs to finally give his dog some water. Jeez, Theon looks good in Robb’s underwear.
*
Theon is still buckling his belt as he walks out the bathroom and past the corridor to approach Robb, who’s waiting at the door, “Hey I’m ready, we can go”.
Robb studies his boyfriend for a few seconds, before asking, “You don’t have a bag or what?”
They’re going to spend the night at Robb’s, cause Grey Wind is staying at Sansa’s (she talked about some dog resort and apparently she wants to take Lady there but wants to bring Grey Wind along “just in case Lady won’t make any friends”, and then they say Robb’s the dog mom) and it would be very nice to have sex in Robb’s bed for once, without Grey Wind scratching the door and barking, disappointed for being left out.
Theon just shrugs carelessly, “Nah I’ll just steal your clothes”.
Typical. Robb should have expected that. He rolls his eyes, ad wraps an arm around him, whispering, “The thing is, sweet boyfriend of mine, that all my stuff is at your place, cause in case you haven’t noticed, you keep stealing it.” He kisses his forehead, “There’s literally no more clothes at my place”.
He can see Theon struggling to hide a smirk, as a cute shade of red starts blushing his cheeks as he looks away and mumbles, “I don’t steal your clothes that often”.
Robb’s eyebrow jerks up in front of the biggest bullshit he’s ever heard, “You do”.
“No I don’t”
“You don’t?” Robb pulls the corner of Theon’s shirt, “You’re wearing my hockey jersey. There’s my name in the back, since when your last name is Stark huh?”
Theon’s cheeks are bright red now. It takes him the hardest effort to go back looking into Robb’s eyes and say, softly “Hey, sharing is caring”.
The sound that comes out of Robb’s mouth is more of a snort rather than a laugh, but he can’t keep the smile off his face, “You keep using that as an excuse”.
“Because it’s true!” Theon’s hands gently cup Robb’s neck, thumbs caressing his jaw.
Robb pulls him closer and tilts his head on one side, “It still doesn’t give you the right to steal all my clothes! Literally, my house is empty”.
He doesn’t mind, really. He doesn’t mind. If it was up to him, Theon would have moved in at his place already. If it was up to him, Theon’s last name would have been Stark ages ago, by now. He likes it when Theon wears his clothes, when he uses his stuff, when he acts like Robb’s stuff is his stuff cause that’s actually how it really is, after all. But he likes it even more when Theon blushes when someone points it out.
“I don’t see what’s the problem, we can just stay here, order Chinese and watch a movie” Theon suggests. Robb just stays silent, but keeps his eyes curiously staring at Theon’s, just to make him blush some more.
“Come on babe!” Theon exclaims, then he just jumps into Robb’s arms so suddenly that Robb can barely wrap his arms around his thigh to keep them both from falling.
“I hate you so much” he mumbles, giving in, as Theon smooches his face with kisses.
“So do I baby” he whispers to his ear, as Robb leads them both towards the couch.
*
When Theon opens the door for Robb to get inside he’s shirtless, his face is green and his hair is wrapped in a towel. Robb frowns, recognising the familiar smell.
“Is that my beauty face mask?” He asks.
Theon starts walking to the living room, “Yeah? Before you say anything: you left it here at my place for days, I’m allowed to use it”.
Robb waves his hand distractedly: he hasn’t seen Theon for three days, fuck work and fuck how tiring it is, and he doesn’t have the patience he usually has to tease him. He needs to kiss those lips a little, first.
“Wash it off, I need to kiss you” he says.
“Needy” Theon is smirking as he’s walking to the bathroom. Robb would like to take him seriously but it’s impossible when he looks like that. Actually, it’s impossible to take Theon seriously when he’s smirking. Actually, it’s impossible to listen to whatever Theon’s saying when he’s smirking cause you just can’t keep your eyes and focus anywhere but on those lips.
He comes back a few moments later, face all clean now and hair still a little wet but naturally wavy and naturally sexy. Robb engulfs him in a hug so tight he fear he could break some of his bones, he looses his grip just so that he can start kissing his mouth repeatedly before they eventually share one long proper kiss. They’re both smiling into the kiss cause they both know they’re thinking the same thing, that is: sometimes they still act like teenagers who just got together and that’s fine cause it’s funny as hell.
“Are you ready?” Robb asks Theon at some point.
Theon nods, patting his shoulder, and moving away from him to run to his bedroom, “Yeah, I just gotta put on a shirt. I think I’ll use one of yours”.
“I’m not even going to pretend to act surprised”
“Hey, sh-“
“Sharing is caring, I know I know.”
Theon comes out his room wearing Robb’s dark blue hoodie, the only oversized hoodie Robb owns (or used to own) that doesn’t expose Theon’s lower back and belly if he stretches out or leans over.
“N’aww, you’re learning” Theon says, squeezing Robb’s cheeks with his thumb and index finger.
“Let’s go.” Robb says, gently pulling Theon’s hand away from his face.
He’s driving today, so Theon takes control over the aux cord and spends all their small trip playing nostalgia songs. Robb’s new place has yet to be fully furnished, so they’re going shopping to get some knick-knacks, tablecloths, even some small plants, so the mess won’t be too huge when Grey Wind will knock them over.
When they get inside the car again, still having to decide which shop they should stop at next, Robb hears Theon’s stomach growling.
“You hungry?”
Theon keeps scrolling through his phone, searching for a new song to play, “Just a little. I could fancy a snack though.”
Robb doesn’t need to be told twice and turns to the nearest fast food on the way. Theon’s too busy figuring out which songs he wants in his new Spotify playlist to notice where they’re headed, until Robb eventually asks him what he would like to eat.
Theon looks around and his eyes lit up the moment he realizes they’re in line at the drive thru, “Aw babe, you shouldn’t have”.
“What do you want?” Robb repeats, smiling at him.
Theon waves his hand, “Just some French fries”.
They stay silent for a few minutes before they get to take their order and they’re asked if they want small, medium or large fries.
“Large” both Robb and Theon say at the same time, Robb says it out of instinct and it causes Theon to extend his hand to squeeze his cheeks one more time, “Aw you know me so well!”
Then, Theon reaches for his wallet in his pocket, “Here, I just-”
“I got it” Robb hands the cashier his card before Theon can even do anything. He hands him his fries and gets a kiss on the cheek in return, “I really don’t deserve you”.
Robb tries to ignore how his cheeks are feeling warmer, so he lightly shakes his head and says, “It’s just some fries”.
“You noticed I was hungry and you got me food. You’re adorable.”
Theon silently eats his fries. Robb stops the car near some park so they can go take a walk in the meantime. Theon is humming the song they just heard in the car, it was one hell of a catchy song and Robb would probably have it stuck in his head too, if he hadn’t just realised that maybe, just maybe, he’s hungry too.
“What?” Theon asks him the moment he catches him staring at him eating.
“Can I have one?” Robb asks.
Theon frowns and immediately shakes his head, “No way, get your own!”
That reply is so unexpected it causes Robb to chuckle against his will, “Excuse me?! I literally paid for them!”
“You could have got your own!”
Robb folds his arms against his chest, “Well sharing is caring, now give me your fries.”
Now Theon is laughing too, he grabs one of the fries and feeds it to Robb.
“God I seriously should have got my own too” he mumbles, and Theon hands him the packet of fries afterwards, “I guess we can share”.
“Thanks babe” Robb smiles, extends his hand to grab the pack and notices the small silver thing around Theon’s wrist.
He frowns, “Hey, is this my bracelet?”.
“You left it at my place” once the pack is in Robb’s hands, Theon hides his own inside the pocket of his hoodie.
Robb’s eyebrows are both raised in confusion and amusement now, “And you thought wearing it was better than returning it?”
“I like to wear your things, okay?!” Theon’s a blushing mess. He’s smiling, tho.
“Oh believe me I noticed”
Theon just shrugs, “It makes me feel closer to you” he confesses, avoiding any kind of eye contact.
Robb grabs him by the arm and forces him to look into his eyes, instead.
“Even when I’m right here?” He asks, smiling wickedly at him cause god, how he loves to see him blush like that.
Theon chuckles nervously, then moves to caress Robb’s cheek, “Yeah especially when you’re right here.”
Robb doesn’t get it, but doesn’t say so. He just wait for Theon to understand it on his own and eventually explain himself. It takes him a few minutes and one deep breath, but in the end he says, “Sometimes I wonder how the hell is possible that you’re with me and it helps me, cause then I’m just “of course he’s with me, I’m wearing his briefs””.
That confession is lovely, though Robb doesn’t like how insecure Theon still seems to be. “Insecure” and “Theon” aren’t exactly words that look good if put next to each other, but sometimes it’s just this way: when it comes to their relationship, Theon gets insecure at times. Insecure of himself, like he doesn’t deserve Robb. Robb will never get tired of telling him he’s all he wants and he could never replace him, but sometimes he just wishes Theon would understand it.
“We’ve been together for years by now, hon” he tells him gently.
Theon just shakes his head, “Doesn’t change a thing. I’ll never get used to how amazing you are”
He leans forward to kiss Robb’s lips. They should be having a serious conversation right now, but Robb fears it’d ruin the mood. They can talk about it tonight as they’re lying in bed, that’s usually the moment when they share their deepest conversations. Right now, he just smiles at him as he pulls away, and says, “If sharing is caring does it mean I can wear that beautiful white shi-“
“Absolutely not”
Yeah he should have expected that. Still, “But-“
“Your big ass shoulders would rip it” Theon shakes his head firmly and pats both Robb’s shoulders with his hands, as if to prove his point.
Robb pouts, “You love my big ass shoulders”.
“I sure do, but I love my expensive shirts too”.
“Then can I wear your purple hoodie? The one with the squid?”
Theon’s eyes lit up. It looks like a bulb just turned on above his head, like Robb just gave him the best idea ever.
“Now that would look good on you.” He says, “You know what else would? My cream jumper. God you’d be so adorable with that on. We need to go back to my place so you can try on all my clothes. Come on, let’s go.”
Robb lets him grab his hand as they basically run to the car. When they get home, Theon literally makes him wear all his clothes (expensive shirts excluded, of course). They all smell like Theon. Robb gets why Theon likes to wear his clothes so much, this actually does make him feel closer to him.
Though he notices that night, that the sheets smell like both of them, instead. He doesn’t know how come he never noticed this, but it’s the best smell in the world. Theon is sleeping in Robb’s pyjamas, Robb is sleeping in Theon’s. It all just feels so good.
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weirwoodking · 4 years ago
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hi i was wondering if you would be interested in making a meta on the differences between show!sansa and book!sansa bc i know they changed a lot of her storyline but i don't understand why everyone hates on sophie turner? it can be short or inexistent meta if you're not up to it but i would be very interested to know what you have to say
I mean, the differences between the two are pretty simple. After season 4, D&D decided to cut Sansa’s book storyline, and replaced it with their own rewrite. This affected the plots of multiple characters, particularly Show!Theon’s and Show!Jon’s, but most of all, Show!Sansa’s, obviously. George himself has spoken on how much he hated what the show did with Sansa. He said in 2014 that he had “no idea what they were doing with Sansa or where they’re taking her storyline.”
I could go episode by episode and point out everything that’s wrong or is out of character, but it’s kind of useless. The show did not adapt books 4 & 5, it’s as simple as that, everything is different and feels like it’s out of character. For the first 4 seasons, I thought that Sansa’s story was handled fine (I haven’t watched GOT seasons 1-4 in over 4 years, so my memory is a bit foggy on the specifics tho). Sophie Turner isn’t exactly how I picture Sansa to look, but her acting was fantastic, especially for someone so young and for her first television role.
I personally haven’t seen people “hating on Sophie Turner”, but I’m not involved in the GOT side of tumblr, only the ASOIAF side, so I don’t see people talk about the actors that much. I do know that there are people in fandom (not just in the GOT fandom but in fandom in general) who will conflate actors with their characters. I have seen some toxic Show!Sansa stans do this with Show!Dany and Emilia Clarke (mostly last year). It seems to be more of a problem with female characters and actresses (‘cause sexism), and I think it’s really creepy and disturbing. Sophie Turner is not Sansa, so if anyone is “hating on her” because they didn’t like how the show changed Sansa’s story, that’s really fucked up. I don’t know much about the GOT cast, actually, I rarely watched interviews or behind-the-scenes videos. I don’t know if Sophie Turner has said that she likes the show’s ending or something like that, so if that was the case I could see people being critical of her opinion. But even if she did like the ending of the show and the way the writers changed her character after season 4, I still don’t think you should hate on an actor for that. Because the actors didn’t make the show, the showrunners did. It’s not on the actors to get everything right about their characters, it’s on the writers and directors to tell them the story and guide them through their acting. I don’t blame the actors for anything about GOT (no one should), I blame the writers.
What I find is the biggest problem about post-season 4 Sansa is how little regard they had for her character, while simultaneously claiming she was their favorite. I believe their exact quote was “Sansa was the character we cared about more than anyone”. Okay… then why did you cut her storyline? I feel like their whole “she’s our favorite character” act was more to try to defend against the criticism of the cutting of her storyline. What bothers me most is how they just casually threw her into the Ramsay plotline without thinking at all about what that meant. If you’re going to have one of the main characters of the show get serially raped, you need to think about what you’re doing and how to handle that horrific situation. In the books, the Jeyne Poole storyline is handled very carefully. The acts committed by Ramsay against Jeyne and Theon are never really shown, only implied, alluded to, or very briefly described. The show, on the other hand, explicitly showed Theon’s torture scenes, and made Ramsay a much bigger character in seasons 5 & 6 than he is in the books. I feel like they just used him for shock value, because so much of Game of Thrones revolved around shock value and in-the-moment reactions. I think they just saw Ramsay as a character they could turn into Joffrey 2.0, which is why they put Sansa with him. They didn’t care to follow Sansa’s book arc, they just wanted to continue the whole “caged-bird” thing with her, for shock value.
And to deflect against criticism, that’s why they made her so smart and powerful in the final few seasons. There’s next-to-no build up, no character development, no focus on her growth, the show just tells us that Sansa is the smartest character, and the audience is expected to agree. Because D&D did not care about showing her development. There’s a line in season 7, when Sansa and Arya kill Littlefinger, where Sansa says “thank you for all of your lessons, Lord Baelish.” And that immediately stuck out to me, because that sounds like something Book!Sansa would say. The show cut out Sansa’s Vale storyline, where she spends much more time with Littlefinger, and so… what “lessons” is Show!Sansa referring to here? They didn’t spend a lot of time together in the show. I do think that Sansa will defeat Littlefinger in the books, so that line makes sense for Book!Sansa.
What they did was cut Sansa’s storyline, throw her into a horrific situation that they used for shock value, and then expected to be praised when they made her a “girlboss” later on. They basically said “hey, we know we essentially erased this character’s arc and development, but at least we did a feminism, right?” And that’s what really pisses me off. The blatant disregard for female characters, then saying “no, we do care about them! Believe us!”
Lindsay Ellis has a really good video called “Woke Disney” that touches on this. Basically, she talks about how Disney’s recent live action remakes tend to make each of the princesses a “#girlboss” in a very corporate, fake-feminist manner that is very easy to see right through. (I recommend just watching the video, she goes more in-depth into the subject.)
A similar thing occurred with GOT (the show only had one female writer after season 4, by the way, who was a staff writer for season 8. And before that, only 4 episodes were written by a woman). D&D wrote a lot of problematic, misogynistic, homophobic, and racist things. Then they tried to cover that up with (to use a line from Ms. Ellis) a coat of #girlboss paint. For example, I remember after s8e3 (when Arya killed the Night King) came out, that was when the big criticism for season 8 really started. People saw how bad the writing of that episode was, and how ridiculous and anti-climactic it all felt. However, when people criticized the manner in which the Night King was killed (i.e. saying that it would have made more narrative sense for Jon to do it instead of Arya), there was another group of people who called that criticism sexist. “That’s sexist! You’re just upset that a girl did it instead of a guy!” Which… ugh... do I need to explain how idiotic that line of reasoning is?
And that’s kind of how the HBO show tried to get away with its misogyny, not just the misogyny of Dany’s ending, but of the whole show in general. “Look, we can’t be misogynistic, we had Arya kill the Night King! Look, we can’t be misogynistic, we had Sansa become a #girlboss!” Bullshit, you’re just trying to hide your sexism and bad writing behind a facade of fake feminism.
… *sigh* ...
Anyway, nothing but love for Book!Sansa, and nothing but hate for the writers of Game of Thrones. I hate how the show turned Sansa into a very polarizing character, when she shouldn’t be. None of the child characters of ASOIAF should be polarizing, they’re children for fucks sake.
I’m very excited to see where GRRM takes Sansa’s character in TWOW, I feel like she’s got an awesome journey coming up (hopefully involving her discovering her skinchanging powers, taking down Littlefinger, and heading north for home). 
Uh, wow, this got really long… and I’m exhausted after thinking about the sh*w that much. Here, as a treat for reading all the way down to the bottom, have a Sansa WIP drawing that I haven’t finished yet:
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atopvisenyashill · 2 months ago
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oberyn dv incident w obarra’s mom made me think of like. what is the worst thing my favorites have done. let’s whack them all. but like, for some of them it’s very easy, even when you’re excluding out and out villains. say…theon. feels very obvious he is on a supreme amount of bullshit in acok. but then i arrive at like, ned, and idk that i would be able to truly rank the worst things he did and i feel it just comes down to what you specifically find heinous. i’m thinking jon gaslighting, catelyn dv incident, theon hostage situation, setting sansa UP in kl, and not for nothing but he does execute a guy on page. but also then i get to arya and sansa and i’m like ‘they didn’t do anything wrong. no not even that it’s not their fault because-‘ useless exercise really.
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a-libra-writes · 4 years ago
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Can you stop talking about Book!Theon when you clearly know nothing about him? You’re pathetic. Show!Theon is trash, everything in the show is trash and has literally nothing to do with the books. Also what’s up with you and Ramsay? Did you read the books or you just pretend you did? Theon is the protagonist of his storyline, not a random pathetic girl, Theon has been raped and abused in every possible way and Ramsay is obsessed with Theon and only Theon, not with your random pathetic self-insert girl. “Reek belongs to Ramsay and Ramsay belongs to Reek”, rings a bell? Also why do you act like Ramsay is a bad boy with a sweet side that fucks you hard and is sweet and possessive? Do you know who Ramsay is in the books, do you know what he does to people in the books or are you just stupid? “What would Ramsay do if I was on my period ❤️😔?” He would rape you and flay you alive. Myranda only exists in the show to intentionally erase the sexual abuse Theon goes through and Ramsay’s obsession with him. I understand AUs but you act like this is character analysis, and I’m really tired of the bullshit you and other people write, even about Theon. So maybe go back to school and learn what reading comprehension is because you’re embarrassing
Lol i was debating deleting this but its just very funny 😆
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So it’s done! It’s finally over!!!
I CAN’T EVEN BELIEVE IT.
Thank you so much for all the support throughout all this time that I posted this story, going through so many hiatus and all.
I love you all for the kudos and comments. And I hope you like it!
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Chapter 16
This was the last place on Earth that Sansa wanted to be. Honestly, at this point she’d rather have tea with Cersei.
Ok, probably not.
But anyway.
It didn’t mean she wanted to be here; about to see her brother being punched in the face, and possibly seeing Jon.
With Ygritte.
The one he never talked about, but everybody seemed to know so much about. Maybe he did have a thing for redheads.
Not that it mattered to her. This was over.
“Why do I have to be here?” Sansa grumbled once they had a spot to watch the fight.
“Moral support.” Margaery told her, not for the first time. “This is the first fight I see as your brother’s official girlfriend, so I might not be that happy to see him getting punched.”
Sansa turned to the other woman. “Wait a minute! You didn’t tell me that!” She accused.
“Yeah, yeah.” Margaery made a dismissive gesture with her hand. “Not the point.”
“What do you mean ‘not the point’? This is…”
“Excuse me.” The ladies -including Jeyne who’d been pretending she wasn’t paying a lot of attention to Marge and Sansa’s conversation -turned to the voice, only to find a redheaded woman talking to them. “Hi.”
“Ygritte.” Margaery spoke up, clearly fighting to hold in a reaction.
Ygritte’s eyes went to her. “I don’t remember being introduced to you before.”
Margaery gave a -fake as hell -airy laughter. “I like knowing people. I’m Margaery Tyrell.”
“Right. Robb’s girl.”
“I’m not sure I like being known for that.” Margaery frowned.
Sansa gave her a look, then turned her attention back to Ygritte. “I’m Sansa. This is Jeyne.”
Ygritte waved at Jeyne, but her attention was focused on Sansa. “I know. I actually came here to talk to you.”
“Me?” She wasn’t about to tell her to stay away from Jon, was she?
“Yeah… You saw me talking to Jon, and I just wanted to make it clear it was a friendly conversation. We aren’t together.”
“I…” That was unexpected. “I don’t… It’s not like… We aren’t together as well.”
Ygritte rolled her eyes. “Listen, Jon is an idiot. Don’t fight him for the title. When he comes to apologize, make him grovel. That’s what I mean.”
Sansa was so confused just then. She felt like she was missing a huge chunk of conversation. “I’m not sure he will.”
“Trust me. He will.” Ygritte assured her, then seemed to think hard for a minute. “If he doesn’t, call me and I’ll kick his ass.”
Sansa had to take a deep breath in. “I’m sorry. I’m just really confused here. I thought you were going to play the jealous ex; I wasn’t expecting the support.”
Ygritte rolled her eyes. “I have no time for that, princess.”
Jeyne snorted, and Sansa was still trying to figure out if she was serious, when the crowd started screaming and clapping.
She turned in time to see Jon and Robb entering together, before the announcer called; “Today is the Young Wolf’s last night, so we’ve decided to give him a chance for a rematch.”
Rematch?
“He’ll be fighting the Crow.”
Jon and Robb seemed surprised by the news, but this was the point that Sansa gave the fuck up.
No. She couldn’t deal with this.
Seeing Jon and Robb punching at each other was what had started this whole thing, and she didn’t want to see it again.
She wasn’t going to.
“I’m out.” She declared, turning and just going.
She heard Jeyne and Margaery calling after her, but she didn’t stop moving and pushing people out of her way. There was a ringing noise in her ear, she couldn’t even hear the crowd anymore.
She felt like she was clawing at mud to get out of that place. When she finally saw herself outside the building and the night air hit her, Sansa felt as if she was breathing again.
If Jon and Robb wanted to punch each other they were more than welcome to. She wasn’t watching this anymore, she was done with this bullshit.
“Sansa!”
Robb’s voice shocked Sansa. She turned to see he’d come from the other end of the building, with Jon right after him.
“What are you doing here?” Sansa asked, confused. “The fight…”
“I was there to fight the Wildlings, not to have my problems with Jon being used for their entertainment.” Robb told her. “Once I saw they wanted to see us fight each other, I decided I was out. I…” He cleared his throat. “I’m cool with Jon. No need for punching. Right, Snow?”
That brought Sansa’s attention to Jon. “Aye.” He nodded seriously. “Robb threw the fight, so… I just followed him out.” He frowned. “I think I just quit.”
Sansa gasped. “Jon! You needed the money!”
“I’ll be fine for a bit.” Jon assured her. “I have a friend who wanted me to work with him. I can take him up on that.”
“But, Jon…”
“I’ll be fine.” Jon said seriously. “It’s okay, Sansa. I don’t want to do this anymore.”
Sansa looked from him to her brother, then sighed. “I’m glad. I hated seeing you guys doing this.” She gave Jon a side look. “Even when I didn’t mention it.”
Jon cleared his throat and Robb winced in sympathy. “I guess you two need to talk, so…” He was already stepping away. “I really don’t want to know exactly what’s going on there, but just… Talk.” And then he turned back.
Just then Sansa noticed that Jeyne and Margaery had also followed after her, but had waited behind.
Now it was just the two of them.
“Hey.” She spoke softly to Jon.
“Hey, Stark.” He had this small smile on his face. “Can we talk?”
“Sure.” She cleared her throat. “Why does it look like my brother knows something?”
Jon seemed amazingly embarrassed. “Because he does. He knows about us.”
Sansa sputtered for a minute. “How?”
Jon was looking at the ground. “He heard me talking to Theon.”
“How did he take it?”
“At first? Not well.” Jon admitted.
“Oh god! The rematch they were talking about wasn’t that other fight, was it?” She demanded to know.
“I mean, there was this punch…”
“Jon!”
“How didn’t you hear about it?” He wanted to know. “Everybody was talking about it.”
Sansa sighed. “I was avoiding anything that had to do with you.”
That made Jon’s shoulders drop. “I was that much of an asshole?”
She gave him a flat look. “What do you think?”
“I’m sorry, Sansa. Trust me, I know that doesn’t even start to cover for it all, but it’s the first thing I want to say. I was unfair, I let my insecurities talk louder and you were the one that took the brunt of it. I had no right.”
Sansa was silent for a long minute, trying to digest his words. “Was it… Was it something I did?” She finally asked.
“No”, was Jon’s immediate answer. “You didn’t do anything. I’ve had a… Complicated childhood, to put it mildly. I grew up used to hiding a lot of what I felt, feeling like I shouldn’t ask too much of life. A lot of people like telling me I act like a martyr.”
“You do a bit, yeah…”
“Well…” Jon snorted. “Maybe I do. I just… I don’t feel like I deserve a lot, I won’t lie.”
“Did you…” She bit her lower lip. “Did you think you didn’t deserve me?”
Jon was quiet for a while and Sansa thought he wouldn’t answer, or that he was thinking of a way to say that he just didn’t want her. 
“Aye, I did.” He finally confessed. “You’re so different from me, Sansa. I kept looking at you and thinking you deserved so much better. It seemed insane to me that you’d want me.”
“Okay, but I did.”
Jon looked at her, startled. “You did?”
“Yes. I mean, how can it have possibly escaped your attention that I kept coming around?” She asked him dryly.
“I thought it was the sex.” He admitted.
“And I told you I didn’t go for casual sex.” She pointed out impatiently. “I wanted you. I just didn’t know if you wanted me as much.”
“You say ‘wanted’... Does this mean I fucked up that badly?”
Sansa pressed the heels of her hands to her eyes. “I don’t know.” She sighed. “You’re okay with Robb, right?”
“Aye.”
“And no more fighting?”
“Aye.”
“Are you going to talk to me from now on? Discuss things, admit what you’re feeling, stop thinking you don’t deserve me?”
Jon hummed. “You’re getting demanding.” He teased.
She gave him a very unamused look. “Jon!”
“I’ll do all of that, Sansa. And more.” He took a step closer. “I am sorry, and I’ll apologize for as long as you want me to. I don’t think I deserve another chance, but…”
“For fuck’s sake, Snow!” She snapped at him. “I just told you…” She took a deep breath in. “I decide if you deserve another chance, okay?”
“Do I?” He asked carefully.
“You do, you idiot.” She huffed. “But! We’re going to do things properly this time.”
“Definitely.” He agreed immediately. “I want to take out on a date. Proper date, with flowers.”
“Yes. And we’ll be official as a couple, hold hands in public…”
“Go to parties together…”
“And we’ll take it slow!” Sansa concluded. “This time we’ll do it properly. Let’s get to know each other, let’s talk, have dates, then things will fall into place.”
“Agreed.” Jon gave her a solemn nod. “We did rush into things.”
“It was great.” Sansa hurried to say. “We did enjoy it a lot…”
“Tell me about it.”
“But I really think, if we want to do this properly, we should slow down.”
“I agree.” Jon assured her once again. “I want this to work out. I want to be with you.”
Sansa felt herself smiling. “I want that too.”
They smiled at each other for a while.
“Can I get a hug?” She suddenly asked.
“You can have anything you want.” Jon told her softly.
Sansa let Jon put his arms around her. She hid her face on his neck, feeling like a great weight had been lifted from her. She probably could’ve made him grovel a bit more (sorry, Ygritte), but she didn’t want that.
She wanted him, and now that she knew he also wanted her, she just hoped that things would work out. They could take this slowly and they could figure stuff out along the way.
Honestly, as long as they talked properly from now on, Sansa was convinced they’d be fine.
She felt Jon dropping a kiss to her temple. “I missed you. Sorry for being an idiot.”
She could admit she liked him apologizing though. “We’ll work on it.”
He snorted. “Do you want to grab something to eat? I don’t want to call this our official first date, but I’m hungry.”
“I’m hungry too. Margaery wouldn’t let me eat before coming here.”
“Let’s grab something simple and tomorrow I’ll get you flowers and a proper dinner.”
“Deal.”
They let go of each other and Jon offered her his hand. “See? We can do this.”
She grinned as she accepted his hand. “We’ll do great at this whole dating, taking things slow.”
48 hours later…
“I hate you.” Sansa groaned from her side of the bed.
Jon was laughing too much to answer.
She hit him with a pillow. “What happened to taking it slow?”
“We did! 2 days. It’s a record for us.” He said, trying -and failing -to contain his laughter.
“You’re lucky I like you.” She grumbled.
Jon stopped laughing, his smile becoming soft and fond. “Aye. I am.”
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alinaastarkov · 5 years ago
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I always wondered why D&D didn't want Jeyne Poole (fake Arya) marrying Ramsay. Sansa had a completely different storyline in the books. She never married Ramsay, never got raped and yet she did in the show. It almost seemed like they wanted her to have a more horrible storyline. How everyone should feel sorry for and not Arya who saw her brothers dead body, witnessed her fathers execution, watched people get tortured. I swear the last books better make up for the shows disgrace.
They actually admitted to this exact thing. I’m glad you sound surprised, anon, it means you still have some innocence left. And I’m about to ruin it for you 😉
“Sansa is a character we care about almost more than any other, and the Stark sisters have from the very beginning been two characters who have fascinated us the most,” said showrunner David Benioff. [...]
And it’s because of Turner’s strength, Benioff continued, that it made sense to give Sansa a dramatic storyline this season and to use Ramsay’s engagement for that very purpose. In fact, the showrunners first thought about putting Sansa and Ramsay together back when they were writing season 2. “We really wanted Sansa to play a major part this season,” Benioff said. “If we were going to stay absolutely faithful to the book, it was going to be very hard to do that. There was a subplot we loved from the books, but it used a character that’s not in the show.”
Writer-producer Bryan Cogman had some insight, as well. “The seeds were planted early on in our minds,” Cogman said. “In the books, Sansa has very few chapters in the Vale once she’s up there. That was not going to be an option for one of our lead characters. While this is a very bold departure, [we liked] the power of bringing a Stark back to Winterfell and having her reunite with Theon under these circumstances.”
Besides, Cogman pointed out: “You have this storyline with Ramsay. Do you have one of your leading ladies—who is an incredibly talented actor who we’ve followed for five years and viewers love and adore—do it? Or do you bring in a new character to do it? To me, the question answers itself: You use the character the audience is invested in.”
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Gross, right? First, I’m calling bullshit on them being fascinated by the Stark sisters, cause they clearly only care about one. They even admit that. “Sansa is a character we care about almost more than any other.” They literally spelled it out for us. They like Sansa the most, not a main character, which is why the writing became so one-sided. And why do they like her? “And it’s because of Turner’s strength, Benioff continued, that it made sense to give Sansa a dramatic storyline” They like Sansa because they like Sophie Turner. That’s it. And they wanted to give her something more “dramatic” than her Vale storyline. They straight up admit that Sansa is not a main role and they had to change her story to give Turner a main role. It’s also completely disgusting. I won’t say they “care” about Sansa, because if they did, they wouldn’t force her to be raped and abused when she wasn’t in the books. D&D are a pair of sick fucks because they said “There was a subplot we loved from the books, but it used a character that’s not in the show” of a plot that had a girl raped, abused, locked in a tower, and ended with her breaking bones and losing a nose. And they “loved” that plot. It’s absolutely appalling that they think that way. They say there’s a “power of bringing a Stark back to Winterfell,” but there was no power in what she did, they kept her naive and being manipulated, and reuniting with Theon causes nothing but pain. And they say it’s because they don’t want to introduce anyone new when there’s an established character, as if that’s a valid reason (it isn’t). They could have kept Jeyne throughout, brought her to King’s Landing, there’s no POV trap (and they often ignored that to invent pointless scenes) so we could have seen Jeyne with Littlefinger, seeing as they “love” the abuse and sexual assault of young girls, we could have seen her leave for Winterfell. We could have been with Jeyne on every step of her journey. The fact that we weren’t is no-one’s fault but their own. Complaining about introducing a new character this late is not a valid excuse, especially when we hear this:
“The showrunners first thought about putting Sansa and Ramsay together back when they were writing season 2.” So, not only can they not complain about Jeyne being a character we haven’t seen before, it’s their damn fault we don’t see her because they were thinking about this in season 2. Plenty of time to reintroduce Jeyne, but they wanted to do it anyway. And, seeing as they admitted Sansa isn’t a main and we know they only did this because they like Sophie Turner, this means they looked at this 14 year old actress and decided they wanted to see her raped on screen.
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It was purely their sick, twisted way of trying to generate sympathy, because they knew Sansa wasn’t a very sympathetic character (aside from the obvious), they knew Arya’s story and character was much more tragic and impactful and would generate more sympathy and praise for her naturally, they didn’t like that the 14 year old they wanted to fuck would not be praised except for her acting, so they did this. And they did it. They attracted fans who are exactly like them. They achieved what they set out to. Except that everyday we stan Arya and Dany more and more, they lose. So keep it up guys.
I shall now return to my vigil outside George’s window until he releases Winds. @arsenicandfinelace has been doing all the vuvuzela work while I’ve been writing. Gotta go back and help out
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dresupi · 4 years ago
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for @hchollym​ 1,507 words Rated T Better Than I Know Myself - Adam Lambert
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He’d fucked up.
Theon knew that much at least.
Most of the time, their arguments carried an equal share of the blame, but this one was one-hundred per cent his fault. And Sans had every right to ask him to leave.
She was just... freaking out about everyone coming over tomorrow. And he supposed he was as well. It was their first... well, anything since they’d moved in together. They were having Arya and Gendry over. And Robb and Marg. Jon and Ygritte. It wasn’t any different than any other night when they all hung out.
But it was different because it wasn’t he and Sansa cuddling on someone else’s couch. It was their couch. Their kitchen. Their lasagne that she had to keep an eye on. Their artisan sourdough bread loaf that she’d practised so much in the weeks before, he was almost sick to death of bread.
Almost, being the keyword. Her bread was glorious. Just like everything she did.
And he had to go and take an enormous shit on all of it the second she slipped off the edge. What kind of a boyfriend was he? This was exactly what he’d been worried about ever since he’d sent her the house listing a few months back and asked her if she could envision living there. With him.
He had done, the second things started going the slightest bit pear-shaped.
She was panicking about everyone coming over the night following, and he had turned and said, in the calmest voice possible, that this all “Wasn’t that big of a deal.” That she was freaking out over nothing. And all he really wanted was some peace and quiet to himself for “one fucking minute”. That it was as bad as having everyone live there with them, the amount she carried on about it. Like it was the end-all-be-all of everything. It was their friends coming over for fuck’s sake.  And then he’d said the one word he knew she hated. “Unclench your arse and take a seat, Sansa.”
And as soon as he’d started talking, he wanted nothing more than to cut his own tongue out, because the more he talked, the worse it got, and then tears gathered in her eyes and she’d stood up, walking over to the hall tree where she had hung all the coats. She’d practically knocked the thing over trying to get her coat off it, only to have the falling coat tree take the coat with it as it landed with a clatter on the floor. And he would have laughed if she hadn’t looked at him like she had.
It was just a thinly veiled version of Catelyn’s icy glare, but it was enough to give him pause. He’d seen her give it to other people, even at him, but never with this level of... resignation?
“It’s fucking cold. And I didn’t do a damn thing wrong. You go.” She’d kicked the hall tree and stalked off toward the kitchen, opening the fridge to pull out the wine, most likely.
And he’d stood, walked over to the hall tree and shook his own coat free, slamming the door without another word.
Of course, it was bitterly cold in his car and she’d called three times since he’d slammed the door on his way out into the snow.
He’d gotten as far as starting his car, but he hadn’t attempted to pull out of their driveway. He had snow tires. He could. He should.
He should also answer the fucking phone.
But he didn’t know what to say when he did.
The phone buzzed on his dash and he picked it up, staring at her picture as it showed up on the screen.
He remembered taking the picture. She was making a silly face at his behest. It was on her name day the year before. Her arm was around Arya, who was, as he recalled, making an even sillier face. But it was always Sansa he focused on. It had always been Sansa.
He answered the phone, bringing it up to his ear as he closed his eyes. “Hello?”
“Theon, it’s fucking cold out, just come back inside.”
“You had every right to ask me to leave,” he stated.
“I didn’t ask. I told. But now I’m asking. Come back inside? Please? We should talk about this.”
He swallowed and nearly tripped over himself walking back inside.
When he got there, she was seated on the sofa, next to his spot, and he wondered if he should sit there, or somewhere else, but she patted the cushion beside her.
He sat down hard, turning to look at her as she hugged a pillow to her front. She only did that when she felt vulnerable. Fuck it all. He wanted to hug her.
“Look, I know I’m frustrating as fuck right now...” She fiddled with the tassels on the corners of the throw pillow. “But telling me that the thing I’m worried about only makes me feel more like a moron and it doesn’t help at all, Theon.”
“I know, it doesn’t... I’m an ass and I’m sorry. You did nothing wrong, Sans.”
“I mean, I was fixating on making tomorrow perfect, and you’re right. It’s not that big of a deal. It’s Arya, Gendry, Robb, and Marg... and it’s what we do every weekend, but... Theon, if you can’t see that it’s more than that as well, then...”
“I know it is...” He reached for her hand. “And the only thing I can say in my own defence is that I am also petrified I’m going to fuck this up...”
She chuckled softly and squeezed his hand. “I’m just as likely to do it as you.”
“Not bloody likely. You know... you know how my home life was... less than picturesque.”
“I know,” she said with a nod. “I know you’re not coming into this with... everything attached to you, and I know that. I love you.”
“I love you,” he whispered softly, and she squeezed his hand. “I’m sorry I was cross.”
“If you want more time alone, I can accommodate that, I can postpone some of my work until you get home so you can have a few hours to yourself... it’s not that big of a deal in the long run. I’m very adaptable.”
“Sansa...”
“I mean it. It wouldn’t be that big of a change, I could start later in the day... so you’d have time by yourself in the morning as well because I could just have a lie-in every day and---“
He squeezed both her hands in his. “Sans. I don’t want that. I want you.”
She looked at a loss. “I don’t know how to give you that in the way that you want it.”
“I don’t want you to do everything all the time. I want to be present and equal here. You say we’re partners, yeah? Let me actually... be your partner. And stop making excuses for me. Even to yourself. I was an ass and you can say that.”
“I’m an ass as well.”
“Sometimes, yeah. And the next time you are one, you can own up to it. But let me have this. I’ll shoulder this one. Because it was my fault. Not yours.”
She swallowed and nodded. “I also know you’re not... you’re not Ramsay.”
He wrinkled his forehead in confusion. “I know that. Sansa...”
“I know that as well, I just... I worry that I compare everything by this skewed scale of where they are in relation to Ramsay Fucking Bolton, and...” She shook her head. “I’m sorry that I still have all of this bullshit attached as well. You don’t deserve someone with all of that baggage.”
Theon leaned in and kissed her. “I want you and everything that comes with you, Sansa. I’m here for you, okay? Even though I had a little strop earlier... I’m still here for you.”
“I’m here for you too. Even if I asked you to leave.”
“Hey... you didn’t leave me. You made me leave. That’s the difference,” he joked.
She laughed and reached for the collar of his t-shirt, pulling him close for a soft kiss on the lips. “What about instead of lasagne tomorrow, we order pizza?”
“I think at the end of the day, it all comes out the same anyway, so...” he teased.
“Just to take some of the stress off the situation.”
“I love your lasagne, though...”
“Well, I’ll make it for you, then.”
“You’d make it for just me?” he asked, kissing her again.
“Anytime you want. We’re living together now.”
“I can think of at least three things off the top of my head that I’d do for you anytime you want,” he murmured. “Why don’t you take a few wild guesses and I’ll let you know if you got it right.”
“Hmm, I love playing this game. It always comes out well for me... no pun intended.”
He pulled her closer, kissing her more firmly. “Yes, it was...”
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