#i would call him apollo

[halfdent]

I’m for ever baiting && gaslighting d/c to cast oscar as Harvey do it you cowards !

“ but he’s too old now”

“ DILF DENT ! DILF DENT I SAY!”

[turnaboutstar]

they both think the other one is cool...

[cornertheculprit]

funny as hell for two reasons. 1) a rift already exists between phoenix and apollo. one that was literally never addressed again actually. and 2) he does, in fact, leave the agency. not because of this trial but quite frankly after the mess that was aa4 i would not blame him for leaving for any reason ever

[moonblastthisbitch]

Am I the only one who completely misunderstood the plot of ToA when I first heard about it? Like "Apollo turns into a sixteen-year old mortal" put the idea of him in secondary school in my head not deadly quests. It was still entertaining either way but now I really want a fic of Apollo trying to navigate school instead of his whole life being threatened 24/7.

[nyssasatelier]

So i finally got my hands on translations of both the Odysee and Iliad!!!

And despite originally caring more about the story of the Odysee i decided to read the iliad first and I'm so incredibly glad i did!

About 20 pages in and two different women are separately kidnapped and taken hostage, Agamemnon and Achilles are at each others throats, the gods are getting involved, Zeus is threatening to beat up his wife and Apollo is spreading the plaque.

Meanwhile Odysseus is somehow on a peaceful road trip and has a sleep over with the boys after a fun karaoke night.

[gingermintpepper]

Day 3: Asclepius

Interpretation notes and trivia under the cut!!

Woo boy, this guy was another difficult character to settle on both a design and an interpretation for! Asclepius tends to have two big schools of thought for his tale, either he's the tragic doctor who resorted to illicit methods in order to save his patients or he's a strict scientist who was so skilled at his art that his resuscitations were called magic but were just science. I don't actually mind either interpretation, but due to the way I personally see Coronis and the way I chose to interpret Asclepius' birth story, I chose to focus on a different facet of Asclepius; Asclepius the family man. The theme of geneology and the inheritance of 'curses' through blood and birth is one that permeates this work and Asclepius, in a lot of ways, has not only inherited both his mother and father's banes but his actions and talents create new ones for his children. Throughout this, and all the many messy crimes Asclepius will commit in the name of what he thinks is necessary and right, he will willfully ignore the warning signs staring him dead in his face screaming that he will leave the burden of his work to his children and it will be easy. After all, Asclepius has made a career out of ignoring his own father's warnings and cautions, what are a few more red flags to ignore?

Less of a character note and more of a personal thing, but for a very long time I used his teenaged design when sketching out scenes and ideas but after tidying up my timeline, I realised that he would be an older man throughout the events of the story!! Since he's properly mortal, he would have to look his age and while that was slightly intimidating since I've not drawn many older characters, it also made me very excited since characters in the 40+ age range are rarely protagonists of these sorts of adventure/fantasy stories and working in the physical differences between him and his brothers was extremely fun!

Some fun trivia:

Youngest of Apollo's children currently alive and kicking. Maybe it was because Apollo so intensely regretted the way he dealt with Coronis but he doted endlessly on Asclepius and essentially personally oversaw his education and training. Because of this, Asclepius, without a doubt, is the child with the best relationship with Apollo between the brothers and believes unfalteringly in his father even if they have many practical and philosophical differences.

Has a bit of a sixth sense when it comes to necromancy and communing with the dead and spirits beneath the earth. Because he was rescued from the torch of death when he was babe, he has retained a connection with the chthonic. While he cannot exactly see figures like Thanatos or Hermes, he can certainly sense when they are afoot. Is very aware that Thanatos cannot stand him and expects to be taken by Ker when he does finally die.

Always keeps gold coins on him on the off chance he is spontaneously struck down while doing research or healing some previously unhealable disease. His father, upon realising that his warnings would be thoroughly ignored, pleaded for him to do at least that since after Asclepius is dead, Apollo would be unable to intercede for him.

Happily married and has four children! His eldest Machaon chose to follow his footsteps and became a gifted surgeon in his own right while his second eldest Iaso chose to follow her mother's footsteps and become more of a nurse than a doctor. He's endlessly proud of all of his children and hopes his research makes the world a better place for them.

Was recognised by Apollo at 15 and became Doctor Laureate at 17. Lost said laurels at 22 after he revived his second corpse from the dead and since then has been on a strict probation when practicing his medicine. Has a mark on his left wrist that will fill itself out if he commits such an atrocity again and then he will be marked for death and supposedly tormented until he forfeits his soul.

On very good terms with Orpheus and the two often work together and catch up when they happen to meet up while travelling. Never knew Eurydice but he gets the feeling that he would've really liked her.

Despite being a son of Apollo, has absolutely zero musical talent and cannot dance. He can't maintain his hair either and would've cut it multiple times over if Apollo himself didn't stop him and chastise him for even thinking about such a thing. Epione does his hair. The little braids in his beard are courtesy of the twins Hygiea and Panacea who enjoy putting little braids in anything they can get their hands on.

Doesn't resemble his father or his mother actually! The relative he resembles most is his paternal grandfather Zeus, a fact that gives his wife endless grief because his hair is thick but not curly, a trait she covets. Asclepius having thick body and facial hair was also very awkward considering Apollo is incapable of growing body hair and, for a while, his lack of curls and cascade of body hair when Asclepius started puberty made Apollo doubt whether Asclepius was truly his or if he had saved Ischys' child instead.

Has zero self preservation and will hunt monsters and creatures for their blood, teeth, claws and hides for his medicines. Like his father, he has a personal 'wall of horrors' where he stores everything from gorgon blood to pegasus feathers to hydra venom. Sometimes gods in the guise of men will simply give him precious materials because they know Asclepius is the one who will take their unsolveable cases in the face of disaster. It is a very risky exchange and has only barely skirted by Zeus' notice because actual money hasn't been exchanged (yet).

Preferred weapon is the scalpel and doesn't like fighting humans. Has a fire-retardant mantle made from chimera skin Apollo gave him when he was a child that doubles as a very good shield in a pinch.

Favourite colour is withy purple and his favourite food is goat butter spread on bread and topped with celery, tomatoes and olive oil. Has a lot of snake themed jewellry that he's passed on to his son because he thinks they're too gaudy for his old self to be wearing.

[realredbanana]

There’s something so intriguing to me about how Rachel has stronger “prophecy powers” than Octavian, but she can’t control when she speaks prophecies, yet Octavian’s “prophecy powers” are much weaker, but he can control when he reads them.

[roboyomo]

idk. I Missed Them. so made this thing

[buds-and-baubles]

(superman: warworld apocalypse 2022)

my review for the warworld arc (issues of action comics (2016–ongoing) 1036-1046 plus 1047 and superman: warworld apocalypse) has arrived! there will be spoilers so warning in advance.

i'll be entirely honest, i genuinely enjoyed reading this arc. missing the original authority roster (v1 or v2) aside, my biggest complaint truly is that... there wasn't enough. for clark it had plenty, but for rebirth's the authority, we could've had more.

it left a sour taste in my mouth that after they were all defeated by mongul and his entourage, that we didn't get to follow along to see what happened to three of the team members.

i wanted to know what happened to manchester black being stuck with teacher, enchantress stuck with mother, and who the fuck if anyone that apollo was stuck with. they never explained who picked him, as mongul handed out two authority members to his finest and most loyal warriors.

frankly, it felt like apollo was shoved off to the side for this arc. he's there for the first fight against mongul, was horribly injured in that fight, and then was off the pages. he wasn't present for most of this arc. quite disappointing, to put it mildly.

even though this was an arc focused primarily on clark and his wanting to save the phaelosians, they could've given just a bit more and i'd have been more pleased than i already am about what i read.

if they'd have done at the back of the issues at least one whole issue each for each team member, it would've felt further fleshed out to me. OMAC coping post-arena fighting and reminiscing about lia. natasha while she worked the forge with leonath and missing her uncle john.

manchester black being moved to teacher's place after teacher declared he picked him and then the torture he endured while there. enchantress being moved to mother's place after mother declared she picked her and torture she endured while there there.

showing who picked apollo. was he picked by mongul as no other warrior was shown with him? was that why people were worshipping him around the throne and chanting 'gaoleng uhl mongul'?. when he was placed on the throne.

when the metal contraptions which kept him stuck and compliant were shoved into his back. that he had seen when midnighter visited him. showing how he was trapped inside while being one of the unmade. his reaction of being made to aid in killing almost an entire planet and those in warworld fighting alongside superman.

on the note of being an unmade, a tiny tidbit more for OMAC on being a willing unmade. i also would've loved an issue of lightray after being resurrected remembering she died and that she's now back, but there's the essence of mother trapped within her body right alongside her. she too, is trapped in being one of the unmade. for lia to have called out to OMAC but she can't be heard.

being made to kill innocent people and how she reacted. how it felt to see OMAC kill innocent people too, as well as apollo. what her and OMAC did after celebrating mongul's defeat since in action comics 1047 it shows OMAC fine like he wasn't near death anymore.

i would've loved a whole issue following midnighter and how he escaped the arena. of showing how it felt for him to leave apollo behind there chained up, knowing he had to do this so he could eventually get him out of there.

him hidden somewhere, enraged at what clark bringing them there had done to them all. especially apollo. midnighter reminiscing about apollo throughout the issue. as he declared when he first decided on his warpath to find apollo and get him out.

with midnighter in mind, i would've loved if he hadn't caved so fast when clark arrived about rescuing apollo. he should've argued longer, gotten in clark's face. that coming to warworld was a mistake. how any team member whose dead or might be dead is blood on his hands.

midnighter as he turned to leave so he could save apollo despite clark's protests, only being stopped by clark apologizing. mid to turn in order to remark again, for clark to gently ask him if having him back now is worth the statistical risk of losing him forever, as there's a high risk that removing him from the star forge could go wrong.

midnighter only agreeing to help with the phaelosians when mongul sent his entourage in after otho-ra, osul-ra and the others if they find a way to get out apollo next. that if he isn't the next they save, he will leave again and find a way to do it himself.

on the topic of otho-ra and osul-ra, i love them. i love imagining that if they hadn't aged jon up, how the interactions from here on out would be like. this arc also made me love both who use the alias of steel and now i wanna read for both of them so i picked up reign of the superman.

my ideas aside, the characterization for midnighter and apollo left much to be desired. it was leagues better than stormwatch vol 3 and while kinder than the shitty characterization i had endured during my wildstorm reading, it felt.. stale.

i would've loved to see apollo being cheeky and with his dry humor to bounce off of midnighter doing much of the same. their whole back and forth quick banter has always been a fond thing to me so i miss it. i wanted them to talk how they used to. how they spoke in this didn't really sound like them.

midnighter's best and closest to his actual characterization i felt was during his back of the comic issues journey we got to see of him searching for apollo and how to get him out. it felt intrinsically midnighter and i wanted more. outside of those tidbits, i wanted his to-the-point statements.

let me give an example of my own writing:

"i know what move you're about to make. my computer had seen it before you had the damn gall to approach me. superman is letting you and your mongul boot-kissing fucks off easy. me? i'm going to find out just what bones you have that earthlings don't. i'm going to break them one by one, stress fracture by stress fracture, until you're crying and begging for mercy like others have done for you at your feet. then, i'll sit and ponder whether i end your miserable existence or leave you to writhe in agony, begging to die. so say the schrödinger's dead."

also this is a teeny thing but i wanted midnighter calling apollo by his name or other nicknames whether romantic or not. babe is cute don't get me wrong, but some variety would've been nice. i say the same for apollo to call midnighter by name or other nicknames whether romantic or not.

all in all, i actually enjoyed reading warworld arc. i wanted more to flesh out rebirth's the authority roster. it seemed like it was good for clark/superman characterization and story wise from the small bits of him during the 90's i have read.

i can't say whether it was good for natasha irons or enchantress as i've never read for them before. manchester black i say much of the same but admittedly i'm not really a fan of him so it doesn't change too much about reading this.

OMAC and lightray (lia nelson) from earth-9 have really grown on me. i'd love to see more of them in the future perhaps doing their own thing heroicially as a duo like midnighter and apollo did. like maybe exploring that tidbit teacher mentioned about 'knowing OMAC's name'.

i got genuinely giddy at the comic issues that explored what was going on back on earth. we need to give lois more alien guns, honestly. john henry irons is such a brilliant character. he's close with clark AND lois. close with the whole superfamily. he is an extremely intelligent man who strives to do good for the environment and people. he loves his niece natasha, who followed in his footsteps. i can't wait to see more of him.

thanks for reading y'all. the superfamily i do say has got me going yippieeee!

[jinxedshapeshifter]

Don't you think "Herr Nymphensittich" is a bit on the long side, though?

Eh, doesn't matter, it's funny. Herr Nymphensittich it is!

The thing about this that's making me laugh even more is that Apollo would 100% call Klavier pretentious over it JUST because of how long it is, and I think that'd just make Klavier more inclined to call him Herr Nymphensittich lol

[dazais-guardian-angel]

This post made me realize that with the Walking Alone episode, I can recreate what Aya probably looked like during the new chapter...

...and maybe the next chapter...

But most importantly, what she'll hopefully look like many chapters down the road from now :)

[starlit-mansion]

i was reading a random short fic about apollo coming out to people in his work sphere as trans and the only remarkable thing about it was klavier breifly misunderstanding and thinking apollo was coming out as a pre-trasition trans woman for 15 seconds before being immediately corrected

and that IMMEDIATELY made me want a comedy of errors of klavier "accidently" finding out apollo is trans in some nondirect way (like being moots with trucy and combing through her follows to find apollo and sussing out his privated account that has a trans flag emoji or icon) and trying to signal that he's so cool about it and apollo doesn't have to stay in the closet for the sake of his career or whatever... but low-key comments about how apollo would look nice doing/wearing something feminine imMEDiately raise apollo's hackles and he's like "...wtf........ does he KNOW. is he being transphobic????"

and eventually trucy has go between (despite being told not to by Polly) and start prodding Klavier, who is still trying with all his heart to Be Cool About It(tm). And is obviously mortified when he finally gets enough hints to realize he has it reversed

less sincere serious moments of coming out and more zero-stakes stupid hijinks with dumb contrived twists!!! this is ace attorney!!!!!!!!

[fiendishartist2]

guys what if i want to make my own apollo justice game.

[sallyscardigan]

Apollo, a god, being worried when Thalia drives his sun chariot will never not be funny to me

[strangeweirdgirl]

No but imagine Thalia seeing Luke all grown up and hot and just has to do a double take before remembering what's she there for

But y’all don’t wanna talk about that…

[catboynutsack]

the weird Greek mythology kid to pagan pipeline is realllllll