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Y'all. I still can't believe they KISSED. Like, they actually, actually KISSED?????? LIKE, FOR REAL?????????? IT IS THERE IN THE SHOW?????????? WHATTT???????????
#i know i know#but im still there#i understand when Neil said#the kiss has happened#and now nobody can deny it#thank you Neil#thank you neil gaiman#good omens#crowley#aziraphale#gos2#ineffable husbands#good omens season 2#david tennant#michael sheen#ineffable fandom#aziracrow#gomens#gomens 2#go2
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something something I love so much to think about charles knowing every detail of edwin's body language and not just that, but also about the things edwin does to stim or ground himself, and never questioning those little habits or rituals and just getting along with it, until it becomes normality for them both.
#yes this is about edwin being autistic#idk i like to believe that charles never thought about it#he just met edwin and was like “yep that's how he is and it's brills!”#until niko said something about it after seeing edwin stimming in several occasions or simply behaving in a way she *understands*#and it's just so casual and kind and suddenly charles just does his own research as he always does when it comes to edwin#and it just clicks in his head#i imagine that he'd try to learn all he can about it and about how he can help or do something about it— for edwin#cuz that's just how charles is#nvm this is so self-indulgent#dead boy detectives#edwin payne#payneland#charles rowland#edwin paine#charles and edwin#paineland#painland#paynland#dead boy detective netflix#neil gaiman#notebook entry
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Incredibly self-indulgent quick sketch of the ot3 rare pair (trio?) that is Jean/ Neil/ Andrew; cause I feel like y'all ain't seeing the vision lol
If it ends up winning the poll maybe I'll get around to cleaning this up a bit and adding color and such, but for now this is all we get 😘🦊🦊🐦⬛🔑
#digital art#ao3#all for the game#the foxhole court#fan art#drawing#aftg#aftg fanart#neil josten#andrew minyard#jean moreau#andrew x neil#andrew x jean#neil x jean#andrew x neil x jean#crack ship#rarepair#ot3#Deals With Devils#sketch#consider the possibilities#i love andriel as much as the next guy#but imagine for me neil#who wants to experiment with their new found sexuality that he is still struggling to understand#and who feels safest when they have someone they trust their to watch their back#and who has said repetedly they feel safest in jeans arms (as well as under andrews watchful eyes)#and so in an attempt to make them feel safer/more secure/ (and to further explore their new and confusing feelings) he asks Jean to help him#and andrew who has already called jean 'interesting' after their one brief meeting and who just wants neil to feel good/safe#figures its fine as long as jean doesnt touch him and keeps neils hands busy too#but then finds themself looking 👀 at jean a bit too much during and starts crushing on him too.
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Neil would be so dissapointed
#💀💀💀💀#that ai is kinda funny honestly#i saw someone saying that the ai told them the queen is still alive and i tried asking mine#it insists the queen is alive and doing well#it told me it's name is maria and guessed mine is stelios(??) but when i asked again it said its name is MyAi not maria#also... it doesn't understand greek grammar and it makes me laugh 😭#it asked what im doing so i responded ancient greek you?#and it was like#no im not ancient greek#DUDE-#also it told me aftg is good written and stuff like that#aftg#all for the game#neil josten#andrew minyard#the foxhole court#andreil#aftg fandom#aftg textpost#aftg incorrect quotes#kevin day#sugarenia talks#ai
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just had to read the words “I’ve been told that there actually ARE aftg folks on tumblr I just haven’t found them yet.” with my own eyes and it took a decade off my life. are we a joke to you??? like bestie WDYM WE TUMBLRINAS ARE THE OG AFTG FOLK
#i’m so sorry for you random person on the internet you would have loved 2016 litblr#you’ll never know how wild and alive the fandom was back then.#the jorts discourse and the jortsventure vid.#((you don’t understand. kevIN is kevOUT still lives in the crevices of my brain.))#the demisexual neil discourse.#the fucking WHY ARE YOU BUYING CLOTHES AT THE SOUP STORE?!??!!! vid#andrew gummyard (rip).#i DIDNT go through all that to be treated like this 😭😭😭#the twitter fandom was basically non existent at that point in time#also just to have it said but in the yearly tumblr wraps aftg still places quite high considering when it came out!#((it’s genuinely so funny to me that some people don’t think aftg is a thing on here like sfhjdsgjjgfcackling what))#mish rambles
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seeing a lot of posting about bella ramsey supporting z*onism and neil druckmann being pro ap*artheid? And they are being called trash? I see tumblr is being its usual self
#from what I've seen bella liked noah schnapp's post where he said he wants peace for both sides or smth#but this was before the sticker gate#bella ramsey does... not support zionism#also neil posted the israel flag after the recent attack in israel#I assume in support of his people considering he grew up there and has experienced things himself#I have tried to find sources of him donating to the idf but didn't find any#someone said he posted links to both israel and palestine non state donations on instagram#like yeah israelis supporting israel can be tone deaf and annoying but understandable after civilian attacks?#anyway no need to call people names when it's an issue none of us westerners will understand#also I'm not surprised tlou2 haters are finding more reasons to hate it lmao#if they don't understand the game they clearly don't understand nuance
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a c in english and a c- in spanish. yeah. well, that's not normal for you. if you say so.
STRANGER THINGS — 4.01: the hellfire club
#m#gifs#long post#this post is literally too long but u know what. don't care. didn't ask.#anyway. in the hot version of st that lives in my mind where billy survives#we get like. a parallel type of cut scene here. with max in her school mandated counseling session#then billy in his hospital mandated therapy session#and it cuts between them both#max fidgeting with her headphones. billy tearing what's left of his nails apart.#both being unable to sit still.#them both being stubburn and holding every single fucking emotion so deep inside that they know it'll never see the light of day#both their answers mirroring each other even when they're like. fucking miles apart and have barely spoke since everything happened#like they've seen each other. max basically lives at the hospital. but billy's throats fucked. and max isn't really the chatty type#and they honestly don't even know what to say to each other#so max just sits. reads comics. listens to music. and billy just lies there. prays for death. prays to visit the fucking ocean again.#and they don't talk. but they're there for each other and they Get It in the only way they know how#OR. the au where neil was possessed and both him and susan die#billy and max having to go to see the councelor. fuckin family counseling sessions. or seperate i guess#is billy still in school? i dont actually understand american ages and schooling it has to be said#but like. councelor kelley just being like. wow. they sure are siblings.#okay but if he's not in school then like. court mandated therapy sessions for legal guadian custody of max idk#i just think i would like to see the parallels that couldve been. but like.#sadie sink i owe you my life for making season four have some good scenes and i would die for u#maxmayfieldedit#max mayfield#anyway again this is not the scene i set out to gif. just made like 30 gifs of a scene i didnt even intend on giffing. fuck me
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i do not care what nora says, there is no way andrew minyard is misoginistic
#first of all he's dating neil 'i drink my respect women juice on the daily' josten#second his best friends are betsy dobson and renee walker. both of them are strong women who have a positive influence on his life that he-#-- repeatedly is shown to think about and care for (the glass statue at the airport and walking laps during practice)#third he did everything in his power to protect cass from the emotional weight of knowing what drake was doing to him#fourth we seem him actively respect abby winfield. he listens to what she says to do. he lives with her. she's the first person he allows--#-- near neil in the motel. he recognizes her as deserving respect more than he does wymack#i just don't understand where nora got the idea that andrew is misoginistic#he doesn't treat his female teammates any differently#the only time he's aggressive towards women is when they've violated the bro code he's developed with aaron (allison and tilda and katelyn)#and he would do that to literally anyone not just these women#baffled by the fact that nora said that. i just don't know where she was coming from.#aftg
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I AM SORRY FOR THE GOOD OMENS SPAM I JUST- I GJHUH- IHHGHUH-
#it is OBNOXIOUS how many pics in my meme folder apply to my feelings about the ineffable husbands#neil how could you#when i was watching the s2 finale with my dad he looked over and saw me sobbing and said “why are you crying??? it's not real”#THE QUEER AGONY#FATHER YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND.#IT'S SO JOEVER FOR MY MENTAL HEALTH#good omens
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No one will ever understand how much neil perry means to me and how much i can relate to him and how much he means to me
#dead poets society#neil perry#when he said that he was stuck you guys don’t understand#and if i said that i want to die just like him what then
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The thing that gets me with Thea is that, beyond being overall heartbreaking to leave Kevin with someone still stuck in the cult mentality, it just makes no goddam sense.
We know Thea is 4 years older than Kevin. Her last year is the same as his freshman one. Nora says it takes months of playing together until Riko is like "omg just fuck already". Then Nora says once Thea graduates she tells Kevin to "get lots of practice" and call her once he graduates and is out if the Nest.
Do you see where I'm going?
Kevin and her are not dating. By the time Thea storms in the dorm they've been apart for two full years. SHE HERSELF SAYS HE HASN'T CONTACTED HER SINCE HIS TRANSFER AND THAT WAS ONE AND A HALF YEAR BEFORE THAT.
They were "together" for at most 10 months*, split up with an understanding to try to do it right in four years, never talked again and then... got married I guess?
*quotations because... like. Them banging a couple times, then realising they actually liked each other, then slowly getting the courage to being a secret, which mostly means passing notes here and there and having sex while Riko is in the room. All that is included in those *at most* 10 months. Wouldn't really call that dating.
I profoundly hate Thea's one scene in the books and most things in Nora's extra content, but this reply to an ask about Thea makes my blood boil:
Like????? Kevin marries someone who thinks "no harm no foul" about the abuse he suffered at Riko's hands??? Nah, you guys stay safe, I'll just keep pretending this doesn't exist, my boy deserves so much better.
#like I'm 100% sure that nora didn't intend none of these implications#when she decided kevin would have a secret raven gf she just didn't want one that was CURRENTLY a raven#because they were too clearly the antagonists and her being there for both the hand breaking and Neil's stay would've been worse than this#but like...#girl get over it#it doesn't even seem like they LIKE each other like imo it just shows that Kevin has a really shallow view of what relationships are#like Welp we held hands once and she said she liked me so I guess this is it right? i don't have to call her or anything right?#(I'm not turning this into a post about Things Kevin Doesn't Understand Because Trauma)#(also am Definitely Not pushing my aro kevin campaign........)
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My favorite animal is Neil Josten tearing Kevin a new one after Andrew leaves to get off his meds.
"'As if you feel any differently," Kevin sent Neil.
Neil fixed Kevin with a stony look. "Maybe if you'd stuck around a moment longer, you'd understand why I don't care anymore. When you came upstairs, did you hear him laughing, Kevin? He was," he said, ignoring the way Nicky flinched and the quick look Dan shot Matt, "before Drake even hit the ground. So yes, even I would give up this season. And after everything he's done and every risk he's taken for you, you'd better feel the same."
"It's not that simple," Kevin started.
"Then simplify it," Neil cut in."
-The Raven King, pg. 262-263
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The season's second episode features appearances from both David's son Ty and his father-in-law Peter Davison, with the latter play biblical figure Job and the former playing his son Ennon.
However, David has revealed that he didn't find out about Ty's casting until after the fact, when he was shooting on the new season.
Speaking with Variety, David said: "I don't know how that happened. I do a bunch of self-tapes with Ty, but I don't think I did this one with him because I was out of town filming Good Omens. He certainly wasn't cast before we started shooting. There were two moments during filming where Neil [Gaiman] bowled up to me and said, 'Guess, who we've cast?'"
David continued: "Ty definitely auditioned and, as I understand it, they would tell me, he was the best. I certainly imagine he could only possibly have been the best person for the job. He is really good in it, so I don't doubt that's true.
"And then my father-in-law showed up, as well, which was another delicious treat. In the same episode and the same family! It was pretty weird. I have worked with both of them on other projects, but never altogether."
#good omens#gos2#season 2#david tennant#ty tennant#peter davison#david and ty#david and ty and peter#interview#david interview#job's minisode#2ep2#fun fact#bts#s2 interview
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Aziraphale’s Choice, the Job Connection, and Michael Sheen’s Morality
Update: Michael Sheen liked this post on Twitter, so I'm fairly certain there is a lot of validity to it.
I’ve had time to process Aziraphale’s choice at the end of Season 2. And I think only blaming the religious trauma misses something important in Aziraphale’s character. I think what happened was also Aziraphale’s own conscious choice––as a growth from his trauma, in fact. Hear me out.
Since November 2022 I’ve been haunted by something Michael Sheen said at the MCM London Comic Con. At the Q&A, someone asked him about which fantasy creature he enjoyed playing most and Michael (bless him, truly) veered on a tangent about angels and goodness and how, specifically,
We as a society tend to sort of undervalue goodness. It’s sort of seen as sort of somehow weak and a bit nimby and “oh it’s nice.” And I think to be good takes enormous reserves of courage and stamina. I mean, you have to look the dark in the face to be truly good and to be truly of the light…. The idea that goodness is somehow lesser and less interesting and not as kind of muscular and as passionate and as fierce as evil somehow and darkness, I think is nonsense. The idea of being able to portray an angel, a being of love. I love seeing the things people have put online about angels being ferocious creatures, and I love that. I think that’s a really good representation of what goodness can be, what it should be, I suppose.
I was looking forward to BAMF!Aziraphale all season long, and I think that’s what we got in the end. Remember Neil said that the Job minisode was important for Aziraphale’s story. Remember how Aziraphale sat on that rock and reconciled to himself that he MUST go to Hell, because he lied and thwarted the will of God. He believed that––truly, honestly, with the faith of a child, but the bravery of a soldier.
Aziraphale, a being of love with more goodness than all of Heaven combined, believed he needed to walk through the Gates of Hell because it was the Right Thing to do. (Like Job, he didn’t understand his sin but believed he needed to sacrifice his happiness to do the Right Thing.)
That’s why we saw Aziraphale as a soldier this season: the bookshop battle, the halo. But yes, the ending as well.
Because Aziraphale never wanted to go to Heaven, and he never wanted to go there without Crowley.
But it was Crowley who taught him that he could, even SHOULD, act when his moral heart told him something was wrong. While Crowley was willing to run away and let the world burn, it was Aziraphale (in that bandstand at the end of the world) who stood his ground and said No. We can make a difference. We can save everyone.
And Aziraphale knew he could not give up the ace up his sleeve (his position as an angel) to talk to God and make them see the truth in his heart.
I was messed up by Ineffable Bureaucracy (Boxfly) getting their happy ending when our Ineffable Husbands didn’t, but I see now that them running away served to prove something to Aziraphale. (And I am fully convinced that Gabriel and Beelzebub saw the example of the Ineffables at the Not-pocalypse and took inspiration from them for choosing to ditch their respective sides)
But my point is that Aziraphale saw them, and in some ways, they looked like him and Crowley. And he saw how Gabriel, the biggest bully in Heaven, was also like him in a way (a being capable of love) and also just a child when he wasn’t influenced by the poison of Heaven. Muriel, too, wasn’t a bad person. The Metatron also seemed to have grown more flexible with his morality (from Aziraphale's perspective). Like Earth, Heaven was shades of (light?) gray.
Aziraphale is too good an angel not to believe in hope. Or forgiveness (something he’s very good at it).
Aziraphale has been scarred by Heaven all his life. But with the cracks in Heaven’s armor (cracks he and Crowley helped create), Aziraphale is seeing something else. A chance to change them. They did terrible things to him, but he is better than them, and because of Crowley, he feels ready to face them.
(Will it work? Can Heaven change, institutionally? Probably not, but I can't blame Aziraphale for trying.)
At the cafe, the Metatron said something big was coming in the Great Plan. Aziraphale knows how trapped he had felt when he didn’t have God’s ear the first time something huge happened in the Big Plan. He can’t take a chance again to risk the world by not having a foot in the door of Heaven. That’s why we saw individual human deaths (or the threat of death) so much more this season: Elspeth, Wee Morag, Job’s children, the 1940s magician. Aziraphale almost killed a child when he couldn’t get through to God, and he’s not going through that again.
“We could make a difference.” We could save everyone.
Remember what Michael Sheen said about courage and doing good––and having to “look the dark in the face to be truly good.” That’s what happened when Aziraphale was willing to go to Hell for his actions. That’s what happened when he decided he had to go to Heaven, where he had been abused and belittled and made to feel small. He decided to willingly go into the Lion’s Den, to face his abusers and his anxiety, to make them better so that they would not try to destroy the world again.
Him, just one angel. He needed Crowley to be there with him, to help him be brave, to ask the questions that Heaven needed to hear, to tell them God was wrong. Crowley is the inspiration that drives Aziraphale’s change, Crowley is the engine that fuels Aziraphale’s courage.
But then Crowley tells him that going to Heaven is stupid. That they don’t need Heaven. And he’s right. Aziraphale knows he’s right.
Aziraphale doesn’t need Heaven; Heaven needs him. They just don’t know how much they need him, or how much humanity needs him there, too. (If everyone who ran for office was corrupt, how can the system change?)
Terry Pratchett (in the Discworld book, Small Gods) is scathing of God, organized religion, and the corrupt people religion empowers, but he is sympathetic to the individual who has real, pure faith and a good heart. In fact, the everyman protagonist of Small Gods is a better person than the god he serves, and in the end, he ends up changing the church to be better, more open-minded, and more humanist than god could ever do alone.
Aziraphale is willing to go to the darkest places to do the Right Thing, and Heaven is no exception. When Crowley says that Heaven is toxic, that’s exactly why Aziraphale knows he needs to go there. “You’re exactly is different from my exactly.”
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In the aftermath of Trump's election in the US, Brexit happened in 2018. Michael Sheen felt compelled to figure out what was going on in his country after this shock. But he was living in Los Angeles with Sarah Silverman at the time, and she also wanted to become more politically active in the US.
Sheen: “I felt a responsibility to do something, but it [meant] coming back [to Britain] – which was difficult for us, because we were very important to each other. But we both acknowledge that each of us had to do what we needed to do.” In the end, they split up and Michael moved back to the UK.
Sometimes doing the Right Thing means sacrificing your own happiness. Sometimes it means going to Hell. Sometimes it means going to Heaven. Sometimes it means losing a relationship.
And that’s why what happened in the end was so difficult for Aziraphale. Because he loves Crowley desperately. He wants to be together. He wanted that kiss for thousands of years. He knows that taking command of Heaven means they would never again have to bow to the demands of a God they couldn’t understand, or run from a Hell who still came after them. They could change the rules of the game.
And he’s still going to do that. But it hurts him that he has to do that alone.
#good omens#good omens 2#ineffable husbands#it's kinda like capt america: civil war#with Azi as Tony Stark: traumatized and trying to do the right thing#and Crowley being Steve Rogers: fuck the establishment let's go rogue#gos2spoilers#good omens meta#good omens 2 meta#go s2#michael sheen#go s2 meta#go meta#*mine#*mymeta#ineffables husbands#ineffable soulmates#*mybest
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i started rambling in the tags without realising how long this shit got and now i can’t add more tags, so since i can’t apologise there ill apologise here: sorry, it’s a lot, i just feel very passionately about this 😭😭
accidentally wrote another paragraph here but i deleted it cause i don’t wanna chat too much lmao
Just to make it clear, because apparently I need to, I'm not invalidating Riko Moriyama's trauma at all. I'm just saying that people justifying him doing what he did to multiple people because "he's traumatised too" isn't the argument you think it is
me being abused didn't cause me to assault anyone else, it made me go actively out of my way to not do that to someone else and got therapy to sort my shit out after years of trying to please everyone whilst trying to look tough as shit to not get fucked with
I never did half the shit Riko did because of my trauma, even when I was actively encouraged to and yet Riko, who got punished for punishing Jean, did and people justify that as "oh but he's traumatised"
Kevin and Jean are definitely dicks but only in the way that they're closed off from everyone else, they've never gone out of their way to hurt someone who did nothing wrong
trauma affects people in different ways, yes, but justifying the shit that riko did is Not it
#this#i’ve always hated the phrase ‘hurt people hurt people’ or ‘the abused becomes the abuser’ because it takes the responsibly away from abusers#yes there are clinical diagonoses out there that mean someone genuinely is unable to control their behaviour - they don’t choose it#and that’s why the insanity plea exists in courts - it demands the perpetrator be placed in a mental facility rather than a prison#but aside from that - YES trauma does affect the way people develop and process emotions and events which of course changes how they react#it can cause trust issues communication issues can make people easy to anger which can cause them to lash out#it can do all sorts of things to the body and to the brain that i won’t pretend to understand beyond my own experience#but it does NOT alter your ability to make choices#the insanity plea does not exist for people who experienced trauma and later went on to abuse others#people with trauma are still responsible for their own actions despite the fact that their trauma impacts the choices the WANT to make#so when people say ‘hurt people hurt people’ it should NOT MEAN#‘people who are abused should be absolved from blame because the abuse they suffered made them unable to choose to do the bad thing’#it SHOULD MEAN: ‘people who are abused struggle to form healthy relationships during and after their abuse because the way they developed#was interrupted and harmed this changing how they process stimuli and how they regulate emotions#which can hurt people in the crossfire: people who are burned by their inability to communicate - their quick tempers#or other more trauma-specific ptsd symptoms#the fact is that riko was not insane he MADE THE CHOICE to act the way he did and YES that choice was influenced by the abuse he faced from#tetsuji but that choice was his to make alone#that’s literally the whole tragedy of riko’s story#tetsuji raised riko as a nothing - a worthless castaway he didn’t even consider human enough to raise#and riko said okay i’m not human but id rather be a monster than a nobody and i am owed the power to become a monster#that was his choice#and that’s why it’s tragic#because he didn’t have to make that choice but he did#and he enjoyed it - he loved hurting people (he tells neil that EXPLICITLY) and so he CHOOSES to continue to do it -#that has nothing to do with proving himself to tetsuji or his family or earning his father’s attention#at the end of the day he hurt people because he wanted to#that includes kevin jean neil andrew and seth#gonna leave it here cause i’ve said a lot but THANK YOU op for this post 🙏🙏#aftg
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Just fair warning- I said on my personal post about this that I wasn't going to talk about Neil Gaiman anymore, but as it's becoming clear that him and his publishers and anyone else who makes money off of him is circling the wagons and trying to bury these allegations, as well as some fans still defending and trying to 'rationalize' this information, I feel like, actually, we need to keep talking about him (as much as I cannot stand him and feel physically disgusted now when I so much as see his face somewhere). Specifically, the fact that he's a liar, master manipulator and should not, under any circumstances, be given access to his fans like he has in the past. At the very least. (And if you need to blacklist his name or even unfollow me so as to not be triggered, I completely understand, but I will always try to tag these posts accordingly and I think it's crucial right now that the truth be put where people can see)
This post specifically is in response to those 'rationalizations' I've seen, some that have gone as far as to blame the young fans/groupies that hooked up with him for being 'golddiggers' or just making a mountain out of a molehill for something they now regret. It's not that simple, yall. (And, again, this requires some amount of completely ignoring the story about him extorting his tenant for sex under threat of eviction of her and her three young children, I'm not sure how you 'rationalize' that under the best of circumstances)
So let's be clear here. What we know is that NG has routinely, for possibly an upwards of 30 years, pulled sexual 'partners' from his fan groups, most of whom are 18-22 year old young women (though possibly younger, accounts are coming forward of 16 year olds having allegedly been inappropriately touched/flirted/propositioned by him, which ig is the age of consent in the UK but still?? 16 year olds!!). This wasn't one or two times in the course of three decades, this was a constant pattern of behavior for him and for a very insidious reason.
This isn't to try to infantilize those fans or young women/young people in general or try to suggest that they couldn't have consented to sex with an older person or famous person. In fact, the onus isn't on them at all. This is about an older guy with a lot of fame, power and wealth choosing to sleep with people that he had already conditioned to idolize him and using that power imbalance to coerce them into doing things they didn't want to.
Regardless of one's age or gender identity, it can be difficult to impossible to say 'no' to someone like that. After all, you've been 'chosen' by the chosen one, you're special and not like everyone else, and if you don't do what the popular person everyone trusts is telling you to do you could end up ostracized. Alienated. Or worse. And you know what? Gaiman knew that! He knew it when he was crafting his 'approachable dad' persona on tumblr. He knew it when he was cultivating a fandom of personality. He knew it when he was having huge meetups to try to ensnare more victims. I hate to even think it, but I'm starting to believe he knew it when he was writing children's books too.
It's been talked about again and again in separate issues, but needless to say something not being strictly illegal does not make it inherently, morally okay. It does not erase the fact that this man has been essentially grooming his fandom to feel safe meeting/speaking with him so he can coerce those he can snare into sexual acts they're not comfortable with. That is predator behavior, whether strictly 'illegal' in the eyes of a court or not (but ofc I think he should be criminally punished even if I'm not naive enough to think he actually will be, because this IS rape and rape should be criminally punished)
I'm not personally advocating for anyone to give up being in his related fandoms, but what I am personally advocating for is that people don't forget who he is and what he's capable of, especially when he tries to crawl back to where he was (I'm almost certain he will eventually, as I've said).
Again, at the very least, we need to use what little influence we do have to keep him from infiltrating fan spaces again. He should not be on tumblr yukking it up with young people, he should not be at public appearances hitting on teenagers, he should not be given the unrestricted access to fans that he's 'enjoyed' for the past 30+ years because he is not a safe person. While I wish there was more in the way of restorative justice that could be done, I think at very, very least we should do what we can to limit his proximity to people he could hurt in the future. Make sure no one forgets, because sweeping this under the rug means Gaiman gets to hurt more people.
Lastly, no one is the wrong for having been manipulated by him. Let's make that very clear. What we're NOT gonna do is blame ourselves, each other, the victims, etc, for evil acts that Gaiman chose to do himself, time and time and time again. It doesn't help the situation and it certainly doesn't protect future potential victims. We were all duped because we're human and we attach and a lot of us want to believe there are good people out there, particularly those who make art that means so much to us.
And there are. But let's also use this a teaching/learning tool about how much faith we place in famous people in the future, regardless of how 'approachable' and 'safe' they might seem. Let's remember to have a healthy suspicion of creators/famous people that are oddly immersed in fandom spaces- yes, even the ones you still currently like that seem fine, as difficult as that may seem.
At the end of the day, we don't know them or what they're capable of doing or what they might be plotting to do to us. Support victims. Amplify their voices. Don't forget.
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