#i think it'd be funny if this was still their dynamic even if they're dating.
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more modern au snotstrid shenanigans
#snotlout is whipped#astrid wants to kill him LMAO#httyd#httyd fanart#astrid hofferson#snotlout jorgenson#snotstrid#(romantic not platonic lmao <3)#i think it'd be funny if this was still their dynamic even if they're dating.#context for my au tho i like to imagine there was a summer where they had a fling/got together & obv it ends but#it's not bad for either of them#ANYWAYS#🌹 art#httyd modern au#dragons off the coast au
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hi there! hope ure doing good today 💛
so this is like a fun game i send my favourite kpop tarot readers 😊
out of the groups u stan (preferably someone who u've done a "X as a boyfriend" reading for), who would u give a chance if ever they ask you out and why?
answer lightheartedly 💋
thank you and i loveeee ur blogs so much 🥰
I haven't done many of those readings tho!! I am too picky, so I'll do those I would set up with friends
I went a lot by how much I personally feel that these people are trustworthy based on my readings, there's no one else I remember that stood out like that to me. and I didn't choose only kpop because I actually don't know that many idols (adhd
in no particular order
lewis hamilton (formula 1)
if you like complete devotion and obsession, the type to have a secret crush on you for years and watch you from afar while secretely planning to sneak into your life. best friends to lovers vibes. he seems very soft when comfortable, and just wants to cuddle with his person watching movies and playing with his dog. message you everyday, tell you all the details he finds beautiful and still gives you advices or fashion tips that genuinely help and aren't just blatant criticism. seems very soft spoken with pink colored glasses. for those that want to be pampered and have princess treatment, that's your man.
park seonghwa (ateez)
honestly, all of ateez depending on what's your type
again, obsession. this guy would respect the shit out of your freedom and choices, he's the type to love no matter what, as long as you come home to him he's so so happy. seonghwa would love to be friends with your friends, part of your family, intertwined in every piece of your life, but the second you say "I need my space", he's out of your sight for as long as you need. seonghwa is a major extrovert, so he's the type of boyfriend to host friend dinners, house parties and take many many many quirky pictures. this is a more fun and dynamic guy in comparison to lewis, but they are both intensely devoted and decided tho. seonghwa would buy the ring on the first date.
wonyoung (ive)
she'd teach you self love by showing how much she loves you, accepts you unconditionally and trusts you blindly. incredibly sweet and caring person, she's so the type to give random little love messages throughout the week/day and spend hours making handmade gifts for her person. the type to give you one of her clothes and a sample of her perfume to feel like she's always around. I think she'd also transform when you're alone, be way more fun, childish and weird, probably dirty in a funny way that'd make you two feel close. she'd treat her person with so much delicacy and pure love, that even the toughest man wouldn't dare to not melt and accept that they're just a little flower in her well taken care garden.
taylor swift
is in love with love, in love with life, nothing can make her genuinely heartbroken, the type of love she has is so intense, it will be passed through lifetimes. she has such an extended knowledge of different types of people, relationships, arts, patterns of behavior, communications, etc. there is not a single person in this world she wouldn't be able to give genuine love to. but she's also extremely picky with those she actually opens up to, she makes everyone think they know her but only you would and it'd be your little secret. secrecy is something taylor (secretely) loves, her life is very very public so we feel like we know everything about her and her relationships, but there is so much deep inside her head that only someone really really reaaaaaaaaaaaally worthy would know! she is in love with connecting, and once she finds a genuinely good man, she will always always protect and take care of you, and make you feel like you're living in a dream or a movie scene. (connecting with her to write this was so much fun! she is so nice and was giving high-fives when she liked something kkkkkk
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Kaito trying really really hard to put his protectiveness aside giving miu some growing room by distracting himself with dating and hanging out with people he barely is able to tolerate due to his experience in the other world, wince dating and making friends is what normal highschoolers do.
Miu developing very /very/ messy feelings regarding Kaito seemingly having no more time for her, while at the same time pushing him away when he does since that's just how their dynamic has always been as siblings and she wants him to feel like everything is fine with her, get really mad at girls he brings to the house, her even worse ability to relate to other people her age. . Also gender stuff unrelated to the main plot.
Takuma and Ryo being the only still decently well adjusted ones.
Shuuji developing a bad rebellious streak due to his father treating lopmon like a stray animal at the best of times.
Saki having anxiety since, now that she's improving in her physical self she has to prepare for rhe future.
Aoi being a mess with the fact their group is starting to drift apart due to their own issues and worrying she won't have anyone that really /gets/ her if they do stop talking together.
The concept of Kaito trying too hard to be a "normal" kid as a distraction from Miu even though he's clearly bad at it and doesn't like doing it is honestly really interesting. It's almost funny in a fish out of water way, but also really sad thinking about him being stuck with nothing but fake friends after having spent time with real friends.
Pretty much everything you said about Miu is like,,,exactly how I imagined she'd act post game? Like yeah Kaito being clingy annoyed her, but that doesn't mean she wants him to never be with her. Not having friends her age AND having this new distance between her and someone she's used to having around a lot would be really isolating and tough. I actually talked a little about this one before. Lowkey love that pretty much everyone seems to agree that this kid has gender stuff going on.
I actually imagine Ryo would have a similar problem to Aoi. He went to camp to make friends because people at his school already didn't like him, so drifting apart from the friends he DID make would be hard for him since they're all he has. Well, other than Kunemon.
Takuma probably would be the most relatively well-adjusted person here but he is still a kid trying to pretend life is normal after having to save the world so ladfkjakj idk maybe as former team leader he'd be a little adverse to taking responsibility for things for a while. Y'know like having trouble finding ordinary things in his life important compared to saving the universe. I think I accidentally just described ant man quantumania never mind ignore me.
Shuuji WOULD have a rebellious phase. He didn't go through an entire self-acceptance arc to watch the other half of his soul be mistreated ToT It'd probably be a bit awkward tbh tho like sunk cost fallacy is real and I don't think he'd want to throw away everything he's worked for academically when he's this close? Local rebellious bad boy still top of his class? But then again what better way would there be to spite his dad than failing aldkfa idk
I actually. Really really love that idea for Saki. Her being someone who didn't plan about the future before because she didn't know if she'd even have one now realizing that Life is Happening and she doesn't know what she's doing. Obviously she's still young but tbh can confirm that at any age it's extremely stressful when everyone seems to know what they want and where they're going but you.
What is a squad mom without her squad ToT It probably would be jarring for Aoi going back to school with classmates that just take advantage of her after having friends who truly appreciated her. Being unable to feel the same way about her old "friends" anymore.
Honestly I think they would all be afraid of drifting apart. In a lot of ways, most of them are each other's first true friends who care about them and not just for the masks they wear or the help they can give. None of them WANT to move on from each other, they just don't have the time, and most of them don't go to school together. ...Digimon Tri Joe moment. Joement.
#digimon survive#i think i got lost in my rambles in most of these i'm sorry#i just processed that we did not talk about minoru#tbh i think him and takuma are super lucky they're the two in the same grade at the same school#while everyone else has problems with loneliness and or family they kinda just get to be each other's family#also no one asked but in my attempt to break the survive kids into duos#and have it be like NOT the most obvious pairs#i put miu and shuuji together#so in my drafts sits a short silly little fic about miu trying to teach shuuji how to be rebellious XD
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Warning:: Probably OOC for Boss but I just wanted to share this thought ^o^
As someone who’s not into selfship, I usually engage with X Reader content by viewing Reader as their own character. And seeing the dark potential for Boss…..
What about a Reader who is Boss’s “friend”?? A mature, confident individual who is honest with their desires but also smart enough to recognize Boss’s red flags. The type who will say to his face that they are attracted to his appearance + money but know better than to date him.
I think it would be funny/ dangerous if they like to toy with Boss, casually flirting with him but always ending it with, “But of course, I know we aren’t suited for a serious relationship with each other. That’s why I’d only pursue a friendship-with-benefit/ marriage of convenience with you—not that you’d ever say yes~”
Idk maybe Boss would view them as an interesting challenge for that reason?? It does feel satisfying when he begins to flirt back and seriously court Reader, watching their reaction go from “Nice joke lol” to “Wait, are you serious??”
Also, the mental image of Reader pulling Boss’s necktie so their faces are dangerously close, controlling their distance and daring him to either move closer or farther—
OH MY... OH THE AMOUNT OF THOUGHTS I GOT FROM THIS. JESSAMINE YOU ARE LITERALLY BIG BRAIN FOR THIS OH MY GOD HOLD ON
WAIT I NEED TO ADD THIS BUT LIKE... Boss considering his friend (the reader) being a potential partner. It'd be even more interesting if he starts to treat them like a funny challenge -> actual romantic partner because I could see the dynamic play out, especially when Boss decides "I'll take matters in my own hands". Dare I say it, reader might actually be able to twist his mind at the cost of... Well. Themselves, essentially.
Don't be fooled, though. Boss is still a control freak, but he does consider that a challenge. I think it'd be more like outwitting one another, and it becomes a fun enemies to lovers to enemies to 'its complicated'. What's even worse is that it could develop his obsessive love for them instead, which... Translates to extra bad news.
AND THE FACT THEY'RE DARING HIM TO MOVE CLOSER OR FARTHER.... OTL. OH THE DEMONS. THEY'RE YELLING. THEY ARE GOING TO STRANGLE ME AND YOU FOR THIS THOUGHT.
Okay but like... the power imbalance turning into a dynamic though. Boss's desire for control and the reader's desire to twist what's theirs, and like??? Aaaaaaa the potential yan x budding yan!! AND THE AMOUNT OF UNHEALTHY DYNAMICS THAT CAN BE TWISTED INTO "LOVE" FOR THEM!!
Oh my God I am. I'm lying down this is going to HAUNT me for days. Weeks. Months even. Ty for the food, you madlad. (/pos) You have successfully made me hyperfixated on this dynamic for better or for worse.
#💌 ;; messenger writes#💌 ;; a letter from: jessamine-rose#💌 ;; fine print: ''boss''#;; i think what'd be fun to explore is the potential pitfalls and danger reader might knowingly get into#;; esp if they toyed with the lion long enough that they have to pay for the consequences of doing so#;; imagine having the thought that maybe#;; in a twisted sense#;; you can see how far to push him#;; and it would be unfortunate if he pushed back hard enough that you get in danger#;; and like???#;; its so unhealthy. its evil. and its absolutely fucking abhorrent with how this man can get bitches than me (/exag on the last one)#;; but it is so. so fun to think abt#;; man this will eat at me for days orz i need to write this later
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can both mods rate a few ~ships~ i have???? smile -jadenep -arajade -arasol -jadekat -vriskan -daverezi idk theyre random ones i thought up on the spot except arasol for obvious reasons & jadenep -moon anon
Hihi!!! Mod rose starting off here.
Jadenep - 9/10, what kind of crack did hussie put in WLW ships in homestuck? Like actually I don't think I super hate most of them which is super weird????? ANYWAY JADENEP THEYRE BOTH SUPER SILLY I THINK THEYD DRAW FURSONAS TOGETHER
Arajade - 9/10, they could have a VERY funny dynamic [but when doesnt aradia have a funny dynamic w someone in a ship? Never]
Arasol - I've rated it before, heres what I said then with a few addons to be more on topic: 7/10, it cute and i can appreciate the angst, but they kinda have 'dated in middle school for awhile' vibes? and the fanbase [spesifically, fic writers] really soured it for me?? its cute though. Also I think Aradia either works better shipped with other characters or just straight up on her own.
Jadekat - 7/10, There's some cannon precident for this iirc??? It's plenty cute, but if I was going to ship them it'd be pitch. I think that could be the funnest. Nothing wrong with it, nothing to particularly write home about either.
Vriskan - 4/10, Can be cute but I feel like people ignore the fact that they broke up for SUPER valid reasons and that Kanaya doesn't have to be boiled down to Liking Vriska or Liking Rose. Pesterquest is SUPER guilty of this for example. Not the worst ship out there but It's not my favorite by a long shot either.
Daverezi - 8/10, anyone who says they never shipped them at all is a damn lier. Though I do perfer terezi in wlw ships, they have a special place in my heart as THE middle school couple who broke up but are still besties
and mod dave finishing it with my opinions
jadenep: 9/10, haven't got much to add, had the exact same 'fursona maker' thought as rose and just cat x dog is very funny to me (possibly pitch to reference the cat and dog thing... could b cool...)
arajade: 7/10, they both have that kinda whimsical vibe and i think they would enjoy hanging out together. i dont think i could see them in a relationship though because they both have abandonment issues in opposite directions
arasol: 1/10, i know i've rated this before and i might've been nicer then but i hate this, specifically pale. i don't even enjoy the angst. the one point is for the fact that the scene after aradia explodes with sollux taking his glasses off and crying is my alltime favourite homestuck panel
jadekat: 5/10, i prefer them more as friends because i can't see jade getting into a relationship with someone who she literally had to auspice with himself. i do think they're besties though, she pulls him out of his own ass when he gets in too deep.
vriskan: 2/10 yeahh like rose said, they broke up for really valid reasons and as much development vriska could go through i dont think she could reach a point where she would make a good partner to literally anyone other than egbert and terezi
daverezi: 8/10, i'm a damn liar guys. as high as i'm rating them, i don't ship them and i would never go out of my way to search for content or read fics. that being said their dynamic is fucking hilarious and i love them as best friends in fics who dated and never acknowledge it except to make fun of each other for how low their standards are.
#mod rose#mod dave#jade harley#nepeta leijon#aradia megido#sollux captor#karkat vantas#vriska serket#kanaya maryam#dave strider#terezi pyrope#jadenep#arajade#arasol#jadekat#vriskan#daverezi#rose says things#moon anon
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damijon, timsteph, dickroy and rosecassie (as in wondergirl lol <3) for the ship bingo xoxo
OUSGISSHJ i could write literal essays abt each one of these
1)
okay so i have very mixed emotions about this one, bc on one hand i feel like in main continuity it wouldn't work out, but maybe in like an elseworlds thing it could??? but im also very much a fan of them not being romantic but not also being traditionally platonic so i just settle for calling them "a secret, more sinister third thing". also they're both trans. so like. t4t best friendship that only they (and me) really #Get. i just have so many complicated feelings about their lore and friendship and how damian's friendships are so inherently complex because of how he operates on a personal level and jon simply understanding and not needing damian to change a thing, they're just so content existing w each other and within each others spaces. i very much appreciate how even after all the change they've gone thru they're still close and care about each other, and i am also a massive fan of them both getting along with each others People
2)
OH LORD OK TIMSTEPH OK i don't think ive ever actually talked abt them before, but i should. they're t4t bi4bi most definitely. i actually did enjoy their relationship to an extent while they were dating but it wasn't entirely my cup of tea bc i tend to ship them w other people but the appeal was definitely there, like it was clear how much they cared for each other, its cute and its there and i can get behind it. i do actually prefer their dynamic as exes because of how rare it is to see m/f friendships without ulterior motives on either part, ESPECIALLY if the characters in question are exes, so it's actually refreshing to see them still have a caring dynamic without secretly being hung up on each other. i also think tim's regret over ending it the way he did was nice to see, because while it wasn't out of character to ghost her it also wasn't out of character for him to look back and realize "i could/should have handled that better" so i feel like it does well to convey how he does actually still love her even if not romantically anymore
3)
H. HHHH. SHAKES THEM
i feel like their dynamic in preboot comics is a hell of a lot better than anything the new 52 or rebirth had to offer. i miss when roy and donna were dick's best friends honestly. i feel like their relationship was sidelined a lot in favor of jason and roy and dick and wally which sucks because??? they were fine as they were?? they've got a lot of love and care for each other, especially in the 80s and 90s comics, they're always complimenting each other and telling each other how well they're doing but they're also not afraid to call each other out if one of them does some stupid shit, i think thats good for both of them. i also think roy's relationship w the bats would be funny, as well as dick's relationship with the arrows. they've both got similar family dynamics but also very different in a loooot of ways
4) NOBODY EVER TALKS ABOUT THIS SHIP SO *IM* GOING TO
i literally can't get over their rivalry, like they hated each other so much but also there was just something so unexplainable about them to me??? like idk i just always loved how they interacted even when they were arguing and fighting. i just KNOW if dc let cassie be butch in the 00s during the peak of their rivalry they would have kissed. i feel it in my bones. it's also nice to see since they've both got more complex relationships w the people around them it would be nice to see them sorta bounce off of each other in the respect that they've got a lot going on and they know how the other feels so they bond over the struggles of navigating relationships and friendships and just life in general. i also think it'd be funny to watch diana smack slade for saying smthn out of pocket at like an in laws family dinner or some other gathering but thats mostly just bc i think slade should be smacked in general
#OUDGSISHSU ty for the ask cas im sorry i just dumped all my thoughts abt these guys 😭 <333#kory answers#also a very important note that my mom threw a marshmallow at me while i was ranting abt rosecassie#also if you ever feel like talking ships esp rosecassie dont be afraid to dm me i love dumping about these guys
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I have such mixed feelings on dalador
Cuz on the one hand
it's really funny
I feel like it could happen canonically, though hopefully years down the line rather than anytime soon
they were once so close as kids/teens but something happened and it led to bitterness and pain for decades that maybe can't ever be fully healed but can be remade into something new which has the potential to be sweet
But on the other hand
I think Darius' found family relationship with Eber & Hunter (and also Raine & Eda but not as close) is a billion times more important to his character and more compelling to me as a fan than dalador could ever be to the point I don't really care for it in comparison
it'd probably be plain unhealthy to even attempt dating for years given the amount of bitterness they had festering for decades
both Darius and Alador have the far more important task of fatherhood coming up (newly for Darius but Alador has been failing at it for years cuz of his neglect from his own abuse)
it's unfair to Em, Ed, and Amity for Alador to immediately hop into a new romantic relationship after all his years of neglect. Also Em & Ed weren't even around for the falling out between Alador and Odalia so they don't have that extra layer of understanding/acceptance that Amity does
it's unfair to Hunter too, like I imagine he'd unintentionally take that as a sign he's not actually wanted around if Darius was focused on a new relationship, and Hunter deserves all of Darius' attention
while Alador did ultimately choose the right side in the end, he actively helped make the rebellion more difficult all the way up until the end which almost got everyone Darius loves killed and that's uh, probably gonna be an issue for a while on top of the decades of bitterness. Add on he was the last to see the kids & now everyone's extra pissed at him. Like if Eda doesn't kill him Darius might himself
we don't know what caused their falling out and it could be extremely justified, so the lack of knowing for sure makes me a bit iffy
I feel like they're kinda fundamentally incompatible on bigger moral issues, the ways they approach magic, and personal ideologies. This isn't unchangeable but idk, I'm thinking about how Dana talked about Darius as a char and wonder how well that would mesh with Alador for a long term romantic situation
I know it's not really popular but after OTWAT I think daraeda is a way more interesting dynamic if I'm gonna ship Darius at all (tho under specific circumstances i.e. it's Raeda & Darius is very casually involved cuz I don't really see him as the type to settle down himself & Raeda is the OTP they're getting married it's non-negotiable it is happening in canon I am manifesting it... but anyway he occasionally goes on dates with them and such but for the most part he's doing his own thing which includes being Hunter's dad & Eber's bestie/brother & just his own personal time cuz he's a man that highly values his me time & I love that for him)
I still have mixed feelings on Alador after how he was acting in King's Tide (like dude... You're the adult be more mature? Also don't threaten a clearly abused child with sending him back to his abuser???? The fuck you were abused too dude you should have more compassion in such a situation. His moments with Amity were sweet but also I'm still mad they didn't go get the twins. All in all he's not off to a great start here)
I was vehemently opposed to it prior to COTH so I'm still not fully convinced
dalador being funny is the main reason I enjoy it which isn't a great reason imo lmao
out of the ships I think will happen/are canon, easily the one I care the least about by a wide margin
See found family point again cuz my god that reason is everything to me
#not gonna tag the ship cuz i dont wanna be that asshole adding negativity to a ship tag. but yeah idk its very mixed#ive made some anti posts about it before coth & ive made some pro posts about it since but. idk after kt im way more focused#on darius' found family relationships with eber & hunter than i could ever be on his romance with alador lol#toh#discourse#kind of#long post#no one needs to read this I'm writing this for me#cuz i have so many damn thoughts on my owl show that i need to bloat my stupid blog with them or I'll die#daraeda is just that ot3 meme to me. both the 'my bf & his bf' one & the throuple rant from the gay & wondrous life of caleb gallo one#i guess i was expecting dalador to interact by now but they havent & given the time restraints i dont really care to see it if it means#losing out on family stuff instead. for both of them they have way more important family stuff (tho alador i just dont care about as much)#tc posts
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how much has nonco changed over the years? have any of your characters gone through major changes?
It's changed quite a bit I think. Funny, bc I was thinking about this the other day...by major changes I would say in terms of plot and character personality/demeanor YEAH most of them had significant changes throughout the years. Design-wise they're pretty similar to their original concepts still. This is gonna be lengthy so sit tight:
I started compiling ideas for Nonconformity back in 2017, but this was when it was just a one-off character idea and not a coherent story. I had Jade for a while, I made him for an 80s superhero RP and he had crystal formation powers. I decided to give him some friends in his backstory so I went with a rock cycle theme for them & made Grant & Clay. It's always been intended that they were a rock band, and that Clay formed the band to impress his crush, though the idea of who his crush is has changed a few times. My brother created a character for that purpose: She was meant to be his crush since childhood, and Clay would find out she's a lesbian. The idea was that he'd accept it and move on but befriend her. Clay was my least favorite character back then and it shocks me so hard how quickly he became one of my top faves. Here’s concept art of the first time I drew Jade, and also Grant & Clay (Grant had a different name at the time)
In late 2017/early 2018, I played with the idea of a Battle of the Bands RP group for my friends. The idea was public school vs private school. The only character to stick around from this concept was Floyd, who would've been the frontman of a band from the private school. He didn’t have a design at this time, but his concept is pretty solid. A friend pitched some ideas of adding rock & roll demons to it, and that part of the plot would be that the bands played so intensely that they got sucked into a rock & roll dimension and had to figure out how to get back to their own world. This is where Riff came to be. The band with Clay, Grant, & Jade existed as its own entity still at this time (band was unnamed iirc), but the Nonco STORY came from this RP concept.
Later on in 2018 I took an independent study art course, so I decided to create an idea for a fake cartoon, so I took "Nonco" (Still not Nonco for reals yet) and fleshed it out more. I wanted to focus on the Rock & Roll Nightmare Dimension idea, so I tweaked Riff's design and made a band for him. I bounced some ideas around with my professor and when we got to what I wanted to title it, I wasn't sure what to call it. I considered something related to "Core" bc of the earth's core, so I further developed the idea that they live inside the earth, leading to conceptualization of Nonco's Mantle Dimension (for those who don't know, it's basically like the Nether from minecraft). I eventually came up with the name "Nonconformity" but even then I didn't think it fitted my project! I think think it was very fitting for Clay's band though, and that was when they got the name. I thought it'd be interesting to combine the project idea & the rock band together, mostly so that I could use the title "Nonconformity" for my project and that was what happened I guess lol
While that was going on, I was a part of another RP group, one that took place in the 90s. This was where I created Cal, I took an old character and completely rebooted him, & for his new design I was really inspired by some pink calcites I saw so I made him based on calcite. Gave him a whole tropical theme and everything. Putting 2 & 2 together, I realize Cal & Clay could probably share a universe since they're both rock themed (I thought they looked cute together) The funny part around this time is that bc they were constrained to the dates of their respective RP-verses, Clay was originally older than Cal by 2 or 3 years iirc. Their dynamic was also A LOT different. Clay was still the same grumpy guy and Cal the annoying flirty guy, but I had written that Cal had a crush on Clay, and that Clay gave him guitar lessons. Then Calsey happened and that idea with Clay & Cal never saw the light of day ever again.
In late 2018 and the entire duration of 2019, I started designing random rock characters to add to the universe cuz I thought that was pretty fun, and also they are really good for helping me remember different rocks & minerals for class. I believe this was when I came up with “James Hutton HS”, named after the “father of modern geology”. Here are some early designs:
I tried making all the characters connected to either Clay or Cal in some way, they felt like they were "main characters" & I realize how fun it was to write a whole story out. At the time, I still thought high school stories were fun to write because of the cartoons I watched so I aged down all my characters to be teenagers (I didn’t realize how restricting it was til later). I changed up the idea of Clay's crush, mostly bc if I wanted to write my own story, I'd want to use my own character so that I'd have full control. I began conceptualizing Juliet, I wanted a character that was opposite in appearance to Clay. Clay was gritty and rough, as a rock it is just dull. So his opposite would be a gem, or jewel. That's where the name Juliet came from (not to mention lot of songs in Clay's playlist mention the name "Juliet" so I thought it was very appropriate. The idea for Nonconformity now is that Clay meets Jules at a rock show (Rock Show - blink-182) & forms a band to impress him, but Cal is in the way with his rival band Carbon Dating. After watching Tenacious D The Pick of Destiny, I had the idea for Clay & Cal to each wield a guitar pick that was meant to be attached together. Riff became relevant in that he'd possess Clay to perform on stage because of Clay's stage fright. So now Nonco goes something like: Clay meets Jules at a rock show and wanted to impress him so he forms a rock band with his childhood friends, but his actual problem was he hates crowds. He accidentally summons Riff by shredding his bass, and Riff hands him a guitar pick that would help Clay out. He eventually comes face to face with Carbon Dating & Cal, the town’s most popular band, who challenges Nonconformity to a Battle of the Bands. The battle would get so intense that it tears space & time, and a portal to the Rock & Roll/Mantle dimension would open up taking everyone in. They had to find their way out.
Also Clay & Cal emerged in my brain but their dynamic is more insane now and what it’s like today.
Then I created Desmond. He was always meant to be a former love interest for Cal, but fell apart due to drama between the 2 (and how Cal’s guitar pick fell into Desmond’s hands). Researching more on diamonds (bc I knew jack shit about diamonds at the time) I learned how they were formed/brought to the surface and that further inspired how to write the falling out between Cal & Desmond (and Jules.). I’ve always hated diamonds, so I wanted to make the most messed up character ever, wanted to work with how unstable real diamonds actually are. He became the true antagonist of Nonconformity, at least for this version. He really wanted to get Clay’s guitar pick. To get like, super powerful or something. That idea was still very vague to me.
In 2020...where the insanity all truly began....a little before lockdown, was when I started kicking everything in Nonco into gear. I got a grasp of what Jules' design should be like, that his rock would be kimberlite (bc they carry "jewels" to the surface), and that bc he's part of the falling out he should have a history with Cal. I figured, if kimberlites are associated with diamonds, what if Jules & Desmond actually secretly worked together. Also worked on strengthening characterization of other main characters like Jade & Grant, and also Floyd (he was a minor antagonist at this time). I also did a lot of world building during this time. The lockdown gave me a lot of time & opportunity to develop Nonco, but also I was heavily pressured into making a webcomic about them, not something I was very enthusiastic about, but it did get me to develop Nonco a lot more. The story remained pretty much the same other than the thing with Jules. Think this was when I started playing with the idea that everyone loves Jules bc it’s funny to me.
Diesel also came around at this time as a guy who drives trucks and was probably a retired rock star. I began conceptualizing Desmond’s family since Diamond Records is own by the Adams family.
Around 2020 was also when I started having ideas for “Nonco 2″ taking place in their 20s bc there were a lot of ideas I couldn’t keep in Nonco that I still really liked, so anything I didn’t keep I just threw into Nonco 2 to work on later. Here are some very early ideas:
Made some breakthroughs in 2021. Unfortunately a lot of the fun stuff I did for this year is “spoiler” (idk why I mean that when I’m not releasing anything, but ig it’s just more private info I don’t want to share - it’s nothing weird DW, it’s just backstory stuff among the main characters that are very......OP sounding or more personal to me.) Made Floyd’s dad more relevant and he became an antagonist/major villain. Nonco was broken up into 3 parts at this time, without Nonco 2 (just existed as an epilogue) Worked on a lot of concepts this year. ALSO, many of the background characters ended up having their own story too, so Nonco is now just the main Rock Recs story, and other ones exist in the same universe.
The final Battle of the Bands even still seemed pretty unclear to me, I was struggling a lot with it. I knew Diamond Records played some big part in it. I did my final research for university on kimberlitic eruptions and then everything clicked for me. I made Diana (Desmond’s older sister) the CEO of Diamond Records and gave her a funny absurd reason on why she was looking for the guitar picks (reforming Pangaea) because she is also a mad scientist. Eventually I decided that she definitely had history with Diesel, and that he used to be signed under Diamond Records.
Currently, in 2022, I would say I did the biggest story overhaul due to some crucial parts being unclear to me or difficult to write, like the final Battle of the Bands and where Riff is physically relevant. I made Barry the main antagonist in Nonco 1, and split the story into 2 parts again. Riff is now cursed and trapped inside the guitar pick, and Clay either finds it somewhere or was gifted it. This changes the sequence of some things that happen early in the story, but it all fits nicely now. Also they send Barry to hell (The Mantle dimension) and that’s how Nonco 1 ends and wraps up pretty nicely. Nonco 2 is when Desmond & Diana reveal their true intentions.
This is the current line up of main/important and reoccurring characters in Nonco:
Pretty happy with it right now, more than I ever was in the past, but I’m looking forward to see what more I will develop in the future.
All of this sounds sooo serious but Nonco as a story is told with absurd/surreal humor and differs greatly from the backstory. Anyways...hope you enjoyed that, thanks for asking! If you have any thoughts just let me know
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I don't know anything about canon Yata or the role he plays in anything, because I've not watched the newer Lupin parts except for a little of part 5... but I think introducing another regularly recurring character has such hilarious potential. I really think that could/should be so funny. the crew is all used to each other, they've seen each other do some of the worst shit that they've ever done in their lives, and by now there's probably been some expectation drift as far as what most people would consider normal behavior. meanwhile Yata is over here like... still balking at the fact that Goemon is just walking around like he was plucked straight out of the past, and Jigen can get his hands on an anti tank gun if he needs it, which he does sometimes??? and Lupin... god, Lupin is just Lupin, y'know? what isn't weird about that guy...
but especially when it comes to the polycule, I would love to watch the slow process of Yata building his understanding of what the hell is going on with them from the ground up. like he starts with a basic understanding of "Lupin is dating Fujiko" which... er, it isn't entirely like that? they don't consider themselves quite that official, and they definitely aren't exclusive, but also they'd move mountains for each other, and sometimes they will just swap pieces of their wardrobe and gossip like old friends in a way that almost feels completely platonic, but then other times they're all over each other... so even just that is confusing. I'm imagining Fujiko regaling Lupin with the tale of some stooge she had to sleep with for a con she was running, and complaining about how terrible he was in bed, and Lupin is just howling with laughter because Fujiko is a good storyteller, but she might also be steering the conversation in the direction of "we should have a better time than that tonight" and that might be because she's trying to get at something he stole recently... it's complicated. if you asked Zenigata what he thought of the situation, he could pick up on almost everything about their dynamic. if you asked Yata, he'd know next to nothing. they're like, a couple... right?
so the first time he sees Lupin and Jigen kiss, he has to rework his whole worldview. like wtf why is that happening?? Zenigata is like "oh crap, yeah, I should've briefed Yata on the relationship dynamics" because by now it's second nature for Zenigata to accept all this. he forgot that that'd be surprising... especially with just how absolutely gay Jigen is... he's got so many crazy exes, Zenigata's perception is that Jigen must reeeeally like men if he was capable of dating this many deeply unhinged ones. and Zenigata gets to blow Yata's mind yet again by telling him that Goemon is involved too, and then trying to explain the intricacies of Jigen and Fujiko's contentious frienemies-with-the-same-boyfriends dynamic... it's a very long talk.
but then all that's left for Yata to discover, is just how involved Zenigata is in all this, despite his best efforts not to be. he's seen Lupin tease Zenigata in suggestive ways before, but Zenigata always responded by trying to enforce proper boundaries... moreso in front of Yata because Yata is a coworker, and it'd just cause all kinds of problems if he didn't. but they could only keep this under wraps for so long. it'd probably just be a lot of little things that Yata notices over time... questions that keep piling up in his head until he's ready to burst with curiosity. certain genuine reactions to Lupin's flirting start recontextualizing the amount of time Zenigata spent looking at Lupin's photo the other day, and there was also that phone call that Zenigata had to take in private, but his body language and tone of voice as he talked into the phone was particular, and instinctively made Yata feel like Lupin must be on the other end. is Zenigata in love with Lupin? how does that work... or does it? maybe he's trying his best not to act on his feelings, or maybe their relationship is secret... how does he feel about the rest of Lupin's band of thieves?
the real confirmation of his suspicions is when Lupin drags Zenigata off in the midst of some unrelated chaos, and Yata follows when he wasn't supposed to. maybe he overhears Lupin complaining that it's harder to find good moments to fool around with Zenigata when Yata is constantly with him, and Zenigata grumbles a bit about how they're not supposed to be doing this in the first place, and Yata is simply a diligent, hard worker... but he doesn't really resist getting kissed by Lupin either. Yata tries to just leave, but they somehow notice him. ultimately everything turns out fine, but there's a bit of initial tension because technically Yata should be reporting this as some kind of misconduct. idk how it'd all eventually get smoothed out, but the more Yata learns, the more he realizes that the rules are made up and the points don't matter, so to speak.
#but seriously the longer Yata spends not fully knowing the dynamics... the more wacky shit must happen around him before he figures it out#such a good framework for thinking of stupid bullshit that the crew would totally do with each other
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Chapter 93 - Fancy chair, love it.
- So my theory is that Raizel just never learnt how to write in Lukedonian either.
- Tbh the janitor is suspicious. Like how hard was he googling M-21?
Chapter 94 - SUYIIIIIIIIIIII
- Ah geez the first of the racistly depicted characters.
Chapter 96 - Suyi getting mad at the kids for complaining about Hansu is so funny like when she first appears you think she's perhaps a stuck up celebrity or a pushover but it turns out she's just a really sweet friend.
- Suyi being stunned by Rai's looks but not falling for him (same with Yuna) is one of the things I always liked about Noblesse. Like sure in the first meeting they get blushy but I'll just jot that down to the inherent beauty of nobles since I can't relate to it at all.
Chapter 97 - Frankenstein's house always being stocked with so much food because the kids just started coming over daily is hilarious. Even funnier since Frankenstein obviously thinks it's overkill but is the one stocking up anyway.
Chapter 98 - Regis and Seira 🥺 Seira's og outfit was the best one she had like it only goes downhill from here folks.
Chapter 99 - It would have been so funny if Frankenstein went "they must be cosplayers" instead of realising the two were nobles.
- Regis taking all the initiative shows how it's his roadtrip coming of age journey which is pretty clever. Also Seira's just like that but still.
- Shinwoo stop exercising in class bro. Do not flex on the rest of us this is so rude 😭😭😭
- Regis confidently saying he's a noble in class to humans he doesn't plan on mind controlling... Baby boy why are you so dumb? How is this hiding your identity??? And Seira just lets him,,, good for her.
Chapter 100 - Ah yes their elegance boner at seeing Raizel... nobles are so fucking weird.
- M-21 thinking he won't get any information because of his time at the Union and thus being surprised at how open Frankenstein is is actually really sweet. Like yeah I still think Frankenstein is an unethical and questionable person but he is kind to most humans (werewolves and nobles can go fuck themselves I guess lmao).
Chapter 101 - The second hand embarrassment I felt when M-21 called the two noblesse... how do I even consume content?
- Yeah 100% most union members don't know the difference between nobles and vampires. I bet they'd classify jiangshi as either mutants or werewolves. Or to be more specific, that would be the classification given to low leveled members. On one hand I think it's dumb that the Union gives members twisted information because how would they even use it? But on the other hand it makes sense since it prevents said members from seeking nobles for help. After all, if they believe even the 'noblesse' are vampires that drink blood, than obviously they won't see them as possible escape routes.
- 'Noblesse only applies to one person'. Yeah because Rai's brother is fucking dead. And so is whoever was his predecessor/parent.
Chapter 102 - Those bullies got backup so fucking fast like Shinwoo literally just asked Regis and Seira if they were okay then boom! They're back.
Chapter 103- Regis going ??? essentially when Shinwoo tells him to take care of Seira is so funny like yes ofc he's confused she's literally a clan leader + noble females aren't physically weaker + noble women work out just like the men.
- Rude, Regis. You can't just ask someone why they're mingling among humans. You're doing that too. Who doesn't mingle among humans smh. Even cats and pigeons mingle with us.
Chapter 105 - Love how everyone else in the household is so sick of ramyeon like Raizel stop please you're being selfish.
Chapter 106 - Frankenstein is the definition of the 'right in front of my salad?' meme at Regis and M-21 arguing at the dinner table. Then there's Seira and Raizel just waiting for the noodles to get soggy so he can't even eat. Wish Urokai could see him getting tortured like this.
- The soldier rejecting backup because he knows the enemy is the Union hurts my heart. Wanting to prevent casualties... iwi
Chapter 107 - Shark how tf do you not know about South Korea? That's one of the asian countries people actually know about. I guess maybe it's because this is from around a decade back? K-pop is more recent and made the country more visible I guess.
- Ah yes Takeo. Forever known as "the first time I read Noblesse and he appeared I thought he was Marie's sister since they had the same hairstyle". Like I thought that before even learning about the Aris Taivra fiasco. My power 😔
- Oh don't worry M-21, Frankenstein stopped experimenting on people 830 years ago. You know, as one does.
Chapter 108 - Shark has like no general knowledge. Geography? History? Tf is that I guess.
- Tao saying they're the worst possible people for the job is so funny like yeah he's right. "All we do is massacre people in warzones why are we in Seoul?"
- The rest of the squad complain or are confused about the peace meanwhile Takeo is vibing. He's the normal guy TM of the group.
- Ah yes noble lore. If you take canon at face value than the fact that nobles were around when humans first emerged and there being about 2-3 clan leaders before the current generation means you can estimate their lifespan. Ofc it differs wildly depending on how you interpret the 'first humans' part. I'll assume there were 3 generations before the current generation (mvp lord being the third generation) and won't be adding the current generation since a 0.5-2k years is kinda meaningless. I'll also be assuming that mvp lord entered eternal sleep at around the same age as his predecessors and that he would have died soon from old age anyway (since canonically they do have limited lifespans). If we assume it's just the first human ancestors (7 million years ago) than the average pureblood lifespan is 2.33 million years. If we assume it's when homo sapiens started to emerge (300k years ago) than it's 100k years. If it's about modern humans (130k years ago) than it's 43.3k years. Regardless I'll ignore it since my hcs are that nobles are effectively immortal unless killed and that the 2-3 clan leaders is a misconception due to a mix of Gechutel just straight up lying, because there are clans that have had fewer clan leaders, because I have nobles settling on Lukedonia only 30k years ago, and because Gechutel is factoring in his own age of 10.2k so it's more like 'There have been 2-3 Ru clan leaders before the Ru clan leader 10k years ago since after we settled in Lukedonia'. There's also the possibility that nobles didn't have lords or clan leaders until a few thousand years ago in canon but the species has existed for much longer.
- 'Nobles are individualistic... They don't despise humans but don't love them either.' Humans w/ ants. Now if the ants were capable of speaking with us it'd be exactly the same situation.
Chapter 109 - "What were they researching here?" Since when does the Union research anything aside from human modifications Kranz? Why do you even need to ask? More seriously this means that the Union doesn't actually only do human experimentation and weapons lmao. The other shit just isn't relevant I guess. It's a shame, I'd have loved to see how a lab focused on like, fixing up polluted waters, would be fit into the story.
- The fact that Tao beat Jake up is never mentioned enough. Also confirms that Jake was lying out of his ass about being the strongest.
- Marie being the weakest assassination squad member is interesting like I know why Crombel doesn't need bodyguards as the reader but you'd think the Union would be suspicious of him not having a stronger bodyguard. Also I still can't believe the Union doesn't bother learning who the members are aside from the ones Crombel tells them about like. Bro???
- Shark calling Takeo uptight is hilarious because the guy literally just shot the falling ceiling light which is the opposite of uptight. Either he was preventing them from getting hurt/being caught or he wanted that to happen considering the fact that he shot it and it shattered. And then he just goes back to leaning against the wall. Takeo please 🤣
Chapter 110 - And Shinwoo's still staying over at Ikhans place. Wonder when he's gonna move back. I really love their dynamic like yeah I beg my sister to get me food all the time too. Also love the apron and skeleton hoodie.
- Shinwoo went through the five stages of grief pretty quick huh? Like yeah it's his own misunderstanding that Ikhan is dating someone but still. Homophobia is annoying as always though.
Chapter 111 - Suyi paying for their food is so sweet of her and also I relate so much like yeah mood that's me and no I don't want to be paid back.
- Takeo,,, the fact that he just hands his wallet over because he doesn't like violence and doesn't want to beat them up,,, my heart. Otoh... how did he even get cornered in an dark shady alleyway lmao.
- Aris managing to make herself look like a teenager as Taivra is interesting since Takeo says he wants her to be able to go to school like Yuna and Shinwoo when he's treating them. I guess she looks younger without makeup.
- Takeo just straight up pointing his gun at Shark in public because he mentioned Taivra... anger issues much? I understand why but taking your gun out is an overreaction.
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