#i really love yrliet

[eldritchspeaker]

[ladyoriza]

characters as the major arcana- Nomos Von Valancius as The World

UPRIGHT: Completion, integration, accomplishment, travel, fulfillment, sense of belonging, wholeness

REVERSED: Seeking personal closure, short-cuts, delays

[rosykims]

WHY AM I SO BAD AT BEING MEAN IN THE BEING MEAN UNIVERSE :(

[sybaritick]

i said something vaguely like this to Myc in an ask the other day and it's true. You don't have to like her (I like her. I love her. Maybe my favorite??) but Yrliet is not mean. She gives the Rogue Trader more grace than most people would. She is practical and desperate. Her [spoilers] is understandable even if you hate her for it. and oh, I did hate her, but you have to see it as reasonable behavior ultimately! She has no reason to trust you and every reason to distrust you! You have to think about things from her perspective, consider her model of the world and her experiences of humanity and the Imperium. Anyway, she is great and she isn't "mean". Marazhai is mean! (I love him too though to be clear lmao!)

I see so many posts talking about how Yrliet is a mean woman and like. I get that it is in some way a meme and Not That Deep but also. I just don't think she is tho. I think she's a little blunt and aloof and from an alien culture but I just don't understand how you can look at her and call her mean. For that matter I don't think Lae'zel was that mean either. I think some of you just need to really examine your attitude towards female characters and honestly women in general. Just because she isn't going out of her way to be nice to you 24/7 doesn't make her mean it just makes her a person

[chunkymonkey]

Dark Heinrix

Come to think of it, his romance is dark af.

I already mused about it in this post

But the more I think about it, the more I notice how unhealthy and obsessive Heinrix's love really is.

Exhibit A. His reaction to break-up.

Idira: Heinrix, my voices near you are whispering dark and monstrous things. This has never happened before, never... What is going on with you?

Exhibit B. I think about you all the time. Literally all the time haha

Exhibit C. We will stay together forever. FOREVER.

Exhibit D. I'm not cursed from birth because I'm a psyker, and I no longer serve the Inquisition to justify my existence, and I will not gladly die for it. No, I'm actually cursed from birth because I have a spiritual flaw, so now I'm a heretic who serves the Rogue Trader to justify my existence, and I will gladly die for her.

Exhibit E. I'll just keep being an interrogator and a spy. I'll enjoy the job more than I did in the Inquisition, though, because I can feed my obsession with RT every day.

A GRIN dawns on his face, guys. This is the man who spent the entire game slightly twitching the corners of his mouth to give you a ghost of a smile.

Heinrix is a 57-year-old man who has never had a real, long-term relationship. He's a touch-starved, unloved boy who craves to love and be loved. He has a tsunami of emotions he's not sure how to deal with. And since no one in this damned universe ever goes to therapy, it could end very, very badly for everyone caught in the tsunami.

Unhealthy obsession might actually explain a lot of plot holes. Like, forgiving RT for Yrliet and Marazhai. Or never telling Xavier that RT was in Commorragh.

[cawyden-gaming]

So, regarding my other post for the dialog options of Heinrix when you escape Commorragh - I wanted to discuss them a bit in a separate post, meaning here.

From a reddit thread the "complaint" came up that Heinrix wasn't apologizing for his outburst and this made me curious to inspect the different options.

So to summarize - he does not apologize if there is no Marazhai but Yrliet, which I think makes sense. He is angry (might even snap at RT) but he sees himself in the right because he thinks Yrliet is lying (and RT believing it).

But - if Marazhai is present, he is about to attack Marazhai, even though he knows RT does not approve (especially if you had the ambush scene before).

He apologizes for this, not for being angry but for a short moment he was about to loose control and to attack Marazhai - at least unless you kill him (don't you dare! (kidding, play as you like but don't tell me, breaks my heart)) or these other options:

If not romanced, tell him now he has his proof

In this case the text even says he struggles to say something. Sure, yes, now he believes it to be true (= Achilleas was a traitor) but he is clearly emotionally affected by this while Marazhai is enjoying his pain and RT doesn't help either - not asking both to stop and to concentrate on the escape and also not taking his side. It is just as if RT doesn't really care that much about Heinrix's plight. It sounds a bit like "so now you hopefully finally believe it, I hope that is the end of the discussion".

I can still see someone taking this line in good faith (maybe expecting it to lead to another dialog option to smoothen things further) because Heinrix did not believe the truth before and could even kind of snap at RT for just asking why he doesn't even consider it could be true.

I think with this option RT is not showing the support Heinrix would wish for and is just not sure how to react - he now know what Marazhai did to Achilleas and he can't even react to this, can't wipe that smug smile from this Xenos's face as RT is clearly not interested in supporting him fighting Marazhai at this point.

2. Tell both Marazhai and Heinrix you leave with or without them

That clearly shows RT doesn't care if they live or die, just wants to escape. Why should he then care and apologize, especially if that situation is clearly difficult for him.

3. If romanced, if RT does nothing and Yrliet steps in

That is interesting. RT doing nothing could be seen as - having faith in Heinrix to do the right thing, for him to survive, to not care about who lives or dies or to be too dumb struck/frozen to react.

This is what Yrliet says before:

After which Heinrix looks at RT in shock.

He does not look at Yrliet (but answers her). At this point if romanced it is likely that RT and Heinrix shared an intimate moment or spend the night together. I wouldn't expect him to be shocked that all others now learned about RT and him - when they were clearly making out in the open - uncomfortable sure, but no reason to look shocked.

I would be possible that he is shocked this insight and wisdom comes from a xenos - and not anyone, but especially Yrliet, who he attacks verbally even more than Marazhai (at least when you look at the banter here during the escape, he doesn't start it if you only have Marazhai, or look at the trial in act 4...).

Her presence is enough to make him stop in the black ship when he is about to open up to a RT - he clearly doesn't want to appear weak or give a xenos any insight into him - and here Yrliet is, telling him exactly how he feels about RT (not sure why he would think that is still a secret).

But he looks shocked at RT - not Yrliet. So I think it is even more - he looks at RT because he loves her and Yrliet is right - he was about to put his anger, his revenge over the survival of the woman he loves, the woman he had just told a night or so ago he would lay down his life to protect her. I think that shocked him, that he was close to loose his control, close to go against what he told her, just to get his revenge, ignoring everything else. And of course, having a xenos pointing this out is just the cherry on top of it.

Although - I must say, I like that Heinrix does admit to Yrliet that she is right for once. And that in this situation with him clearly at his limit.

So why does he not look shocked if RT goes between them?

I think that happens quite fast. If Yrliet steps in then because RT did not and took too long to react. So he is then even a step further, closer to lose his control and attack Marazhai. If RT steps in, he might just have snapped out of his anger and saw that RT is right and immediately apologizes because he know it was wrong and RT showed him it was.

I think with Yrliet the shock comes from realizing how close he was (one step further than with RT in the other scenario) and having his greatest fear (losing the woman he loves because of his actions - think about it- he would sacrifice himself for RT but to think he could be responsible for her death is worse) come to his realization.

If RT steps in I don't think he has time to think about this really. He just snaps out of it, apologizes and proceeds. But Yrliet snapping him out of it gives him pause, he thinks about what happened.

Why does he not apologize in this scenario where Yrliet interferes?

I think he is still in shock and doesn't really think about it. He knows it was wrong what he did but he is to emotionally shaken to do it in this moment.

So finally - he does apologize if RT tells Marazhai or both to stop or if RT kills Marazhai, basically all the options where you can support Heinrix directly, showing him you care about him and/or his feelings.

But I don't think it is just that he sees RT cares - but the support has given him enough stability to apologize, while in the other scenarios he might not care (RT is not on his side) and if romanced and not interfering he is not emotionally stable - he is still in shock.

Sorry, that got long, anyway - let me know what you think!

[cherrygarden1408]

I keep on my Rouge Trader playthrough and just reached the end of the second chapter. One thing that troubles me for the prologue became unignorable. How much do people live in Warhammer 40 000? Google says that the same as regular humans. Okay, okay, i get it. Then, what the hell wrong with Theodora and why she lived more than 3 hundred years. She is just a human, a noble one, but still human. Is it some kind of extremely expensive and rare medicine? How does it work? Heinrix mentioned that he can slow down his own aging. Maybe biomancers can also stop the aging of others, but for how long can you delay it? And in that case, how often do you have to visit biomancer?

I guess now romance with Yrliet or Marazhai seems a lot more positive. I really can't stand that bittersweetness of romance with immortals/very long living creatures. Like 50-60 years and love of your love will be left alone with a broken heart. At least rogue trader can delay it for a century or two.

[literary-potato]

Section needs a lot of work but I have the basic shape of it

[lobotomiesatclaires]

@pjenn on here posted some of these for the bottomless pit side quest in the speculo system and i had to go back and check the other companions for myself.

slight spoilers maybe?

I find it interesting to note that we seem to have both a young and an old eldar, as Yrliet is described as being ancient, while Marazhai is described as a broken youth with empty eyes. I don't know why I thought he was similar in age to Yrliet but obviously Abelard was right on the money with his 'young man' comment lol.

feeble minded one is also in reference to Jae (which kinda threw me, I had to double check), the sinewy young man with a blindfold is Heinrix (my true love).

I bought the game for Marazhai but Heinrix came in with a steel chair to my heart and I am nothing if not a loyal bitch, sorry Marazhai, I know you were mad at me for choosing Heinrix over you, Jae and Yrliet). Honestly I didn't know I was romancing Yrliet, I just thought we were good friends and Jae was an oopsy at her party. Il get to Marazhai hopefully when the bugs are fixed for his route.

Idira is the shadowy creature, Pasqal the mutant, Cassia is the baby crying and Argenta is the woman with blood on her hands. Also not included here is Ulfar being described as a cold hungry beast (or close to that), which doesn't really surprise me.

[trashy-corvian]

Finally finished Rogue Trader Warhammer 40k. It was my first time really getting familiar with the 40k universe, i stayed away because all i ever heard from the fandom were fascists jokes. My general conclusion is that the game is really good and does a good job of introducing you to a 40k lore

Warning the game is still buggy as hell. My main romance was on the edge of failing the entire time WITH the toybox help.

I love that you can play as "good" character and still get shitty endings for some stuff. Hell yeah warhammer is dark and twisted place. Yes, you made it a little better but you're not a supreme savior.

Also, being a goody hero WHILE romancing the evil dark kitten? My Rogue Trader is such a hypocrite i love it.

Adopted an ancient god as my child. I love my child very much

Love how Rogue Trader was the sole reason companions behaved themselves. Once the story done? Free fucking game. Pasqal, i love you but what the fuck. Marazhai, i'm not surprised just dissapointed.

Companions? 10/10 I love them all, no one pissed me off. Cassia, Yrliet and Marazhai are my favorites

Nocturne of Oblivion, my dms are open. Gaping even

Warhammer 40k has canon furries. I repeat CANON FURRIES and they are awesome

Got my eyes sewn shut by my hot cultist wife on our 3rd date. 10/10

Said wife then dumped me in the credits because i fucked an elven twink fucked up her quest

Ate a human brain to impress a +6'0ft tall goth elven twink who survives on pain and suffering of others (this is canon btw. Dude need no burger only torture)

Somehow got submissive dialogs half the time despite stepping on this bitch daily. Also, no brand acknowlegement during Marazhai's final quest. Like, at all. Weird

Abelard, introduce me

Will play again. I hope they'll patch it up some more tho

[redstairs]

WIP Word Train

Rules: Tagger gives a word, then for each letter of that word you share an excerpt from your WIPs that starts with that letter.

I was tagged by @jaal-ama-daravv with the word "Pain" and I might do "LURK" by @inquisitornocturn later because this was a lot of fun.

Also I have enough fics going that none of the excerpt come from the same. *cries in ADHD*

P - "Please, stop! I'll do it"

A shudder of pleasure went down Kaedrach's spine. The man was crying, tears streaming down his face while he approached the mutilated creature he cared for so much. The knife was too small to bring on death quickly, and the old mon-keigh nearly lost his mind trying. He stabbed the ursine once, then another time, his hands trembling. He kept apologising to the brown and bloodied mass, and still, the animal wouldn't die. The pain emanating from the broken spirit of the man was delicious. It was further enhanced when the realisation struck that he was unable to stop his pet's suffering.

Kaedrach approached him from behind, then dropped his head at his level, his hands on his knees.

"The knife is too small. You just made it worse."

(Context: Kaedrach is a wych, this happens in the arenas of Commoragh)

A - As a Solitaire, his soul was claimed. His fate, however, was still a path that unwinded as he walked on it. His feet had taken steps he would never have expected, and while the god whispered, Nocturne was not without his own will. It had made him intervene in the affairs of a mon-keigh, a Rogue Trader. The Merchant Vagabond. He had watched her from afar, her life another thread with which he weaved at the tapestry of reality.

It was a thread he had grown very fond of.

(Context: Nocturne smut)

I - If she wasn't going to listen to his messages, at least he had to tell her. He wanted to see her, tell her to speak parting words to his face. He had to hear her say it. It couldn't end like this, not on a misunderstanding, not on a lack of communication. They could do better, he could pay more attention, it wouldn't happen again. He wanted to promise her that, he wanted to tell her he still loved her, that he wanted her, that it ate him up inside to know she was now with someone else. That when the thought hurt too much, he sometimes imagined sending an assassin after her intended, and that it made him feel both better and worse.

(Context: a broken up Heinrix in a situation of his own making)

N - No words had been exchanged - none were necessary. Once they had found their bearings, their mutual proximity had sparked desire once more. She was straddling him, her teeth nipping at the skin of his neck. The drug still slowed him down and made his movement sluggish. Yrliet had pushed him on his back, and sank herself on his member, taking him inside her with a long moan. Her eyes closed, she leaned on his chest, her hips sinking and raising from his with a slow rhythm. His talons dug into her hips, and he hissed as her own nails drew red welts over the skin of his chest.

"Lean back," he panted, pressing between her breasts. "Lean back and roll your hips."

(Context: Marazhai x Yrliet fic)

This was really fun to do, some letters were way easier to figure out than others. I've seen a lot of tags fly around so I'll try to aim for some I haven't seen yet, @andrigyn, @fourraccoonsinacoat @vspin and of course feel free to participate if this is your thing, and to skip it if not.

The word I'm giving you is SAVE.

[vspin]

okay RT act 3 spoilers + thoughts

I'm hating Commorragh. LOVE the concept but the map and journal is really confusing.

I'm playing an imperial world officer, who is a grand strategist; so i basically had to take Yrliet back because I was getting killed non-stop and failing tons of skill checks. Support class woes 😭😭

I slept with Heinrix, which I thought was a really nice "we will probably die tomorrow" passionate moment but I didn't like how my character propositioned him. Or am I dumb and he initiates in the other option?? I honestly don't think they were that out in the open and can snuggle up in a bed roll. This is a scene I think I would like to explore more in fic

But right after the deed, I talked to Heinrix who yelled at me for keeping Yrliet alive 😭😭 That sucked.

[mashamorevvna]

consider this a request for those yrliet/marazhai thoughts! 👀

thank youuuuuu 🫶🏻 cal for the yap pass, i cannot resist the opportunity. @eregar also gently requested my thoughts.

in general they are so crunchy. sexually incompatible, total opposite personality-wise, culturally adjacent in a way that makes them natural enemies.

would love to put them in a room and shake it real hard. would love for the worst love affair of their lives being yrliet domming from the other side of the room while marazhai takes directions from afar on how to slam a door over his cock (sexual)

but most importantly they are, despite it all, so so similar. very lonely amongst the rt retinue by virtue of being the only xenos aboard; lost every sense of social&cultural belonging to mostly no fault of their own; very strong possibility that being with the rt is the least worse of a bunch of genuinely horrible options, and even then not by much.

putting the scenes i rotate daily under a readmore since i discuss one companion ending plus various chapter 3&4 spoilers for those on the dash still playing blind

most important part of the thesis is just yrliet's outcast ending if marazhai also doesn't manage to become archon

it's just so endlessly interesting that despite the fact that they exist as a dichotomy between spiritualism vs hedonism, post game they manage to find some kind of understanding and commonality in what might be their rock bottom (or at least if understood from their initial motivations). especially if their shared rock bottom moment is due the rt's destructive influence over their lives, overall

2. it's also so compelling how during the first warp yrliet is the one person who is so vehemently against putting marazhai down like a rabid dog despite being all for it in commorragh where he is ostensibly sane and she's like kill the beast, mon-keigh, and if you can't i will 👍🏻. would love to crack her head open to figure out how any post daemonette possession interaction with marazhai went, if he even knows/is aware she advocated for him to such an absurdly kind degree

3. i personally think a normal amount about marazhai saying that achilleas betrayed the rt & group over the promise of marazhai never touching him again in relation to yrliet who, at least with humans, is also so explicitly defined by her touch repulsion.

4. if you agree to hunt down the asuryani with calligos, yrliet will leave your party and marazhai, on the thinnest fucking ice ever and likely bricked the fuck up, goes 'see you soon, cousin 😊' which. not gonna lie. is sooooo hot. the natural prey & predator dynamic within the same species is just soooo hot. ripe with potential in playing it straight; great potential in subverting it. I'm a very simple woman

4-bis. the fact that there was a cut harlequin ending whereupon they both renounce personhood to become maskless beings, never to be heard from again. is so. *clenches fist* it really does contribute to that narcissism of small differences they got going on

[ecofear]

Here to report I have unfortunately failed in getting Yrliet's romance endings (think I messed up during the Winterscale quest lmao) BUT.... that's what replays are for and yes I really liked her, I get it, I 100% get it. 10/10 would let her act 3 me again

fun fact i have this folder called yrliet in my photos

none of its named. literally just. a MESS. unorganised. beyond the folders being specific scenes LMAO

heres a scene i really really love from the winterscale quest... sorry it says amity and not eden... feel like im lying to myself like this... but i did yrliets romance on amity (AND THEN GOT CUT OFF CUZ HERETIC THINGS) so all my screenies are amity until post this content LOL

[arcann]

rt companion endgame spoilers

i'll be real it makes a lot of sense that pasqal kills yrliet soon after the retinue is disbanded. also makes me a bit insane that he kills her without going to commorragh himself. he really said maybe you won't avenge yourself but i will *grabs the steering wheel and runs over the aeldari's ship*

jae and kibellah never getting each other also makes a lot of sense. we love bisexual women who hate each other and always think about each other and never kill each other. why is she your archnemesis. are you arching your back for her. i have no bias you do.

marazhai getting astarta bc abelard [incoherent reasoning].

hm.

hm.

hm.

hm.

hm.

actually that was bad. that was really bad. leave that girl alone and harass heinrix's retinue or something.

[oldxenomorph]

i finished act 3 last night and phhhwoah. oh my god. oh my god.

but first, thoughts about the end of act 2.

finally met lord inquisitor xavier calcazar.

being questioned by him was legit a terrifying experience. the most nervous i'd ever been playing a game. stop asking me questions, man. in fact, leave me alone.

(which is what the inquisition should feel like. sometimes i think it's hard to get across just how terrifying the inquisition is and this game does a really good job at that. heinrix's presence is already unsettling, but you can still influence him and even he is subject to being surveilled by his boss. me, my retinue, and everyone on my ship is being watched by the lord inquisitor.)

i don't trust this fool. not one bit.

act 3 happened so fast, i completed it in around two days and i don't think i'm ever getting over just how good/horrifying this experience was.

I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THE ENTIRETY OF ACT 3 TAKES PLACE IN COMMORAGH.

aesthetically, commoragh was made especially for me in a government lab.

the team i took: kibella, yrliet, abelard, pasqal, and argenta.

getting worm shoved into in my brain that made me violently sick and hallucinate being on trial by the inquisition? owlcat have you been looking into my brain?

there really was a point where the moment i was alone, without weapons, without armor, sick as all hell, i was like "oh my god i'm never getting out here. i and my retinue really are going to die here."

i was literally so close to actually crying listening to kibella in the anatomical opera and then talking to her again when we were safe in the shrieker's pit. my love was so traumatized and there was nothing i could do. last time i felt this helpless and distraught was during priority: thessia in me3.

(hearing her stumble over her prayers really made me put down my controller and put my head in my hands.)

however, i did chose the taint/distortion option when talking to her. i really want that heretic romance ending for her. please, she is the love of my life, i need her at my side forever.

tervanitas as also made for me in a government lab. traps him under a highball glass and studies him.

this was probably the most heretical i've been all game. i did the quest where you side with the chaos gods to sabotage commoragh. (which, the cutscene where you unleash chaos into the arena and throughout commoragh was so satisfying. every daemon from every one of the ruinous powers just floods the screen.)

which, i also summoned again to vaporize tervanitas and the haemonucli as a sacrifice. sorry, man. i still think you're neat and will find some use for you.

i recruited marazhai. i'm afraid he is growing on me.

especially since our first real interaction you can grab him by the throat and remind him of his place and he enjoys every second it. maybe i will enjoy having him in my retinue.

both argenta's reveal about theodora and achilleas's off-screen fate were. hm. i'll have to think about some more, but i don't necessarily like the writing for these two instances.

i'm glad ulfar and i also do not trust the lord inquisitor. (also, very cool to actually see a wh40k property do something interesting with omophagea.)

i know it's technically more lore accurate to not forgive yrliet because the majority of humans in wh40k have been indoctrinated into the imperial cult and thus believe that all xenos are bad. but i have mass effect brain and am trying to see things from yrliet's perspective. in the end, i forgave yrliet because her desperation to find out what happened to crudarach was also used against her. (also the reveal of crudarach's fate? insanely fucked up and horrifying. it only made me want to help her more.)

also, love that we got an actual harlequin and that they talk in poetry/riddles. oh nocturne of oblivion we’re really in it now. and thanks for helping me escape.

and then i started act 4 but stopped just after everyone talked to me.

my love kibellah is so strong for enduring commoragh with me, i immediately kissed her when we got back.

also, did not expect jae actually being a former guardsman. genuinely surprised to get some guardsman lore. (i really appreciate this game's take on the imperium, i think having it set on the fringes of the imperium allows for it to explore all these topics and issues.)