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demonic-mnemonic · 1 year ago
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Decided to read Pride and Prejudice as an extension of my Good Omens obsession, as one does. I just finished it and all I have to say is, man...I have never in my life read a book where so much nothing happens
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bethanydelleman · 1 year ago
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Do you think the Austen heroines will get along with each other? Who do you think will become close friends and whose personalities will clash? (please include secondary heriones like Jane Bingley, Marianne, Jane Fairfax, Miss Crawford etc.) in your analysis as well
To be honest, I think most of them would get along because of the societal demands of mixing and their solid moral base, but here are some predictions:
Best friends:
Marianne Dashwood & Fanny Price, both of them are super into poetry and rhapsodizing about the outdoors. Marianne can stand up to Fanny's attackers and Fanny can teach Marianne some temperance.
Elinor Dashwood & Jane Bennet, they both are carrying the family in times of need, both disappointed in love through no fault of their own. Elinor's clearer-eyed view of the world would help Jane take off those rose-coloured glasses, but Jane's love and hope would be warm to Elinor.
Elizabeth Bennet & Fanny Price, extrovert/introvert adoption. Elizabeth is delighted when Fanny finally starts to talk and it turns out she's super smart, but she would have kept her anyway.
Jane Fairfax & Fanny Price, in very similar situations and similar personalities, they get each other. Fanny is very worried about this Frank Churchill character.
Catherine Morland & Emma Woodhouse, a healthier and more equal version of the Harriet/Emma dynamic. And given social class, this is one that can be sustained long term. Catherine starts by admiring Emma and then catches up with her.
Harriet Smith & Catherine Morland, they would get so deep into novels together it'd be amazing. The fanfics these girls would write together.
Caroline Bingley & Emma Woodhouse, they would enjoy making fun of Miss Bates behind her back... they would make each other worse. Eventually Emma would look at herself in the mirror with disappointment.
Anne Elliot & Anyone, please anyone who is an intellectual equal. Do you see the people that she has to put up with? It's literal torture. I could see Fanny Price, Elizabeth Bennet, or Jane Fairfax.
Mentor/Mentee:
Catherine Morland & Anne Elliot, Anne is the oracle of all knowledge and Catherine admires her exceedingly. (Fanny Price would also work here)
Elizabeth Bennet & Anne Elliot, Elizabeth could learn so much from her! Anne would see through Wickham in a minute. They could play some duets too!
Georgiana Darcy & Anne Elliot... just send everyone over to Anne Elliot. She's the group mentor.
Instant Hatred:
Elizabeth Bennet & Emma Woodhouse, Emma would be too much like Darcy and Elizabeth would hate her snobbiness. They would likely become friends in time, but it would be after a good deal of dislike.
Marianne Dashwood & Emma Woodhouse, Emma is not impressed by the drama and HOW DARE YOU CALL MR. KNIGHTLEY OLD! Marianne doesn't like Emma's attitude.
Elizabeth Bennet & Mary Crawford, they are similar and their personality tends not to like each other. Also, Mary C would probably try to take a mentor role with Elizabeth (as one who knows about town) and Elizabeth would hate her for it.
Catherine Morland & Marianne Dashwood, Marianne is astounded by Catherine's ignorance, because it tends in a different direction than her own.
(Honestly, the most clashing personalities are Marianne Dashwood and Emma Woodhouse, someone like Elinor Dashwood, Anne Elliot or Fanny Price can put up with almost anything placidly)
Bonus: Miss Bates & Mrs. Jennings would LOVE each other. They would totally talk at the same time. Another older lady pairing that would work is Lady Bertram and Mrs. Allen.
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anghraine · 11 months ago
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It's kind of fascinating to me that towards the end of P&P, Elizabeth has become protective of Darcy and either a) actively tries to insulate him from Situations or b) wishes that she could and gets stressed that she can't.
Darcy deeply loves her and is very ready to do whatever he can to secure her happiness, but narratively, I think the emphasis at the end is very much more on Elizabeth's protectiveness towards him.
It's like:
When Bingley and Darcy first come back to Hertfordshire, Darcy is very quiet and Elizabeth can barely bring herself to say anything—until Mrs Bennet insults Darcy. Then Elizabeth speaks up.
Mrs Bennet enlists Elizabeth to separate Darcy from Bingley with another insult to Darcy. Elizabeth finds this both convenient and enraging.
That day, Elizabeth decides to privately tell Mrs Bennet about her engagement to Darcy, specifically so that Darcy will be spared Mrs Bennet's first unfiltered response.
Elizabeth fiercely defends Darcy's character and love for her, as well as hers for him, to Mr Bennet. She not only says she loves Darcy but that it upsets her to hear Mr Bennet's criticisms of him.
Elizabeth is both relieved by Mrs Bennet's ecstatic reception of the engagement and a bit disappointed by how completely shallow she's being about it, and 100% sure she made the right call in keeping Darcy away.
Elizabeth defends Darcy against Darcy himself, repeatedly.
There's a period where Elizabeth seems to unwind and laugh, but this passes, especially after Charlotte and Mr Collins show up. Darcy manages to stay calm around Mr Collins (I think this is framed as a significant and admirable achievement for him), but Elizabeth does not like him being in a situation where he has to deal with Mr Collins in the first place.
Elizabeth tries to shield Darcy from being noticed by Mrs Phillips and Mrs Bennet, who do seem to make him pretty excruciatingly uncomfortable.
Ultimately, Elizabeth ends up trying to keep Darcy to herself or to shepherd him around to relatives he can handle more easily, and is so stressed at this point that she just wants to get married and escape to Pemberley.
After their marriage, things are actually great at Pemberley and in their married life, despite the occasional complication.
Lydia writes a congratulatory letter to Elizabeth, asking for Darcy to get Wickham a promotion unless Elizabeth would rather not bring it up with him. Elizabeth really does not want Darcy to have to deal with this and handles it by privately setting aside a Lydia fund out of her personal expenses. (IIRC, it's not clear if Darcy even knows about this.)
Elizabeth also is the driving force behind Darcy's reconciliation with Lady Catherine.
This could read as an unsettling, unbalanced dynamic and a very odd ending point for the arc of a woman like Elizabeth, but in the context of the overall novel, it doesn't feel that way. Or maybe I'd see it more that way if I interpreted Darcy (and for that matter, Elizabeth) + their arcs differently? But as it is, I do think that by this point in the story they are genuinely doing the best they can, independently and for each other, and they've both come a long way. They shine in different contexts and support each other as much as they can in the circumstances that do arise.
It seems very them, in terms of their temperament and abilities, that Elizabeth would put all this effort into shielding Darcy, while at the same time, Darcy completely cuts off Lady Catherine for insulting Elizabeth and only ever speaks to her again because Elizabeth wants him to.
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marsprincess889 · 1 year ago
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Vedic astro mini post
Cow Yoni (Uttara Phalguni and Uttara Bhadrapada) trope
In my astro observations post, I said that their dynamic is enemies to lovers and I provided some examples. I'm gonna go further into that.
Not only does their love story involve a physical fight scene, but it also involves a dance, both being full of tension.
Uttara Phalguni is the second sun ruled nakshatra, beggining in Leo and most of it being in Virgo. It's mostly concerned with relationships and defining their identity through their relationships/popularity. People tend to naturally like them and they don't have to do anything, they're just likeable like that. Uttara Phalguni is the "star of patronage".
Uttara Bhadrapada is the last saturn ruled nakshatra, being opposite Uttara Phalguni and all of it being in the sign of Pisces. It's concerned with finding a solid, stable footing in life and doing that the only correct way: through honesty, bravery, hard work, strength and perserverence. It's the "warrior star".
It's not hard to see why they might be at odds. Their rulers_ Sun and Saturn are natural enemies, they're opposite each other, they're both stable nakshatras, they're both warrior caste, they want the same thing but go for it in very different ways. They're also very obviously meant for each other.
Example 1, The Mask of Zorro
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Catherine Zeta-Jones (Uttara Phalguni sun and ketu, Uttara Bhadrapada moon)
Antonio Banderas (Uttara Bhadrapada moon)
I know they're both UBh moon but since Catherine has her sun AND ketu in Uttara Phalguni, I think that that in this movie that's the energy she's supposed to be representing, to be the polarity to Antonio's UBh moon.
They have a flirty sword fight AND a dance full of tension. If you haven't watched this movie I don't know what you've been doing lol.
Example 2, Pride and Prejudice and Zombies
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Lily James (Uttara Bhadrapada moon)
Sam Riley (Uttara Phalguni moon)
This adaptation of pride and prejudice is the only one where both Elizabeth and Mr. Darcy are both cow yonis, and this one also has physical fights, a lot of them. When Mr. Darcy first proposes, Elizabeth becomes so angry that they physically fight with each other. Also, what's a regency movie without a dance scene? They also have one. Obviously, they're in love, but their stubbornness won't let them admit that they might even like each other. Both nakshatras being of stable nature and warrior caste, they REALLY defend their ground like no other nakshatra.
Example 3, The Great
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Elle Fanning (Uttara Phalguni moon)
Nicholas Hoult (Uttara Bhadrapada moon)
In this adaptation of Catherine the Great's life she's a young girl with dreams and passion, eager to meet her future husband_ the young king Peter. She arrives with full intention of being the nicest, best wife possible(which is a very uttara phalguni trope), but upon truly seeing the state of Russia and trying but failing to like her eventual husband, she gets the idea of overthrowing him. Obviously, ultimately, no one wins that battle because they unwillingly fall in love with each other, through endless threats and misunderstandings, they realize that they've always had their common ground.
In all these stories, fighting is a natural expression of love and is weirdly mixed with it. In real life, cow yoni people are some of the most (if not the most) endearing people I know, they won't waste their time with you if they think that you're not worth it. If they fight with you, that means that they think there's hope for improvement. I'm saying this as Uttara Phalguni ascendant, I will distance myself from anyone I don't like without them even knowing about it, but I can be very stubborn with people close to me. I've also had the dynamic I mentioned with Uttara Bhadrapadas, no matter how much we fight, I ultimately love them.
So, if you have them in your life, it's good to know what I just said 😅.
EDIT: So I was rewatching Pride and Prejudice and Zombies and I realized that the dance scene was deleted 😭 oh, well, you can watch it on youtube.
If you're cow yoni or if you know them, let me know if this is true for you. Don't forget to interact with me, COMMENT, like, reblog, anything.
Take care🤍
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swordsandarms · 1 year ago
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When I think of how Lyanna is seemingly (mis)understood in spite of contradicting clues in the story, I think of how it happens with Elizabeth Bennet (Pride and Prejudice) and a similar typecasting as the one dimensional "spunky, bold" kind of girl.
Elizabeth has her flaws, but that is not being a stubborn girl screeching about love in spite of her family's precarious financial future - hence her own, too. Elizabeth pragmatically turns away from her infatuation with Wickham before it turns into more after one warning from her aunt that they would both be in ruin, and she considers accepting an offer from Colonel Fitzwilliam whom she doesn't love, but they have a comfortable dynamic that she thinks of as enough. On the other hand, she also rejects the man who would inherit Longbourn, Mr Collins - a marriage that could have saved her family - and even her eventual love interest, Mr Darcy - awfully wealthy. Which gains her the cliche characterisation.
But Elizabeth's problem is she is wary of marrying a man she cannot even respect - not necessarily love. It has impacted her since childhood due to the unfit marriage in character and intellect between her own parents, and she can understand the need to marry for financial stability, as long as she can have a reasonable mutually positive dynamic with her partner, but to not even hold respect for someone she'd be tied to for life is the ultimate misery to dive into.
Likewise, Lyanna doesn't even corner her brother about not being madly in love with the man they chose for her. She challenges his character, calmly and rationally - her argument is very much that love cannot make up for unequal character. She also brings up Mya Stone not because she is a hypocrite against bastards, but because she has come prepared with facts for argument - which is exactly as what Ned remembers it, a true fact which corners him in his side of the argument. He doesn't challenge Robert's deficiencies. He's the "naive" one saying love/a woman will change him. He's the oldest but not the mature one - he's the silly romantic blinded by a man's charisma and charm for most of his life. (In Lyanna's eyes, he would also be a man who proclaimed to bring an innocent KOLT to the Mad King himself for the sake of glory - fact which must also sink his character).
Because Jane Austen isn't George Martin and in a different genre, Elizabeth Bennet gets to marry a man who is rich, AND handsome, AND the love of her life - all ONLY after he gains her higher regard in his character and virtues. (Darcy himself isn't some cliche of a man changed by love as naive Ned would have life work. He has the spine to admit Elizabeth is right, and he initially wants to let her know that upon re-meeting her, and that all that is not what he thinks a man should be - what he wants to be - accountability, something so crucial, yet something that Robert Baratheon would only - and that barely - prove only on his death bed).
But Lyanna's unknown POV past Harrenhal completely erases the clues of Robert's lowly character being unveiled to her in person. She is portrayed as stuck in the "naive"/"hypocritical" role of the girl who once before Harrenhal has told her brother she for the time being had bad feelings about this man for a start (those having turned out to be good instincts long term, and at the least informed short term, mind you).
KOLT is not about Robert, and not even about Rhaegar, though I would say his actions bear more interest fandom wide. But it is about Lyanna. And while within that perspective it might also be about what Rhaegar's actions mean to HER POV, the fact that Robert is also there, that he would have at this point in time her attention as the man chosen for her, the few mentions of what she must be seeing while to the reader they're ignored or dismissed - simply because we're narratively PAST that, and the next thing we know of Lyanna is that she's PAST HIM.
But Robert is there, and Lyanna is thrown in his company. Howland doesn't care - Lyanna is the hero in this defining episode of his life. HE's just the Storm Lord who is getting drunk and shouting about giving the KOLT to the mad King himself. But somewhere Lyanna is watching. The debauched lifestyle. The man who puts his own pride and potential for glory ahead of an innocent's wellbeing. The man who would soon be "just rolling in for a fight" in a war that defined a continent because life to him is a party and a game.
But women cannot be individuals with a dignity of their own. If they have any consciousness they better be fighting the patriarchy in the trenches or they are spunky selfish girls wanting shallow things instead of sacrificing for the family's wealth and status. There's no in between.
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dearausten · 1 year ago
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just rewatched pride and prejudice 1995 and i loved it, even more than before! here are some thoughts:
- the best thing about this adaptation is, to me, the performance of jennifer ehle as elizabeth. honestly, she nails everything about her character, in my opinion. from lizzy’s wit and sense of humor to her firm resolution in rejecting darcy the first time and dealing with lady catherine, while also displaying all her conflictimg emotions not only during the whole wickham affair, but also when she found herself longing for darcy’s good opinion (who knows why!). she was absolutely charming and one can’t help but root for her.
- this might be obvious, but i love how it is pretty much the same as the book! it’s very clear that having six episodes worth of screen time instead of two hours as you get in movies played in their favor.
- i love the bennets! i love seeing the sisters interact! i love seeing them in their daily lives and watching their dynamics. i also think they got almost all of the characterizations perfectly. lydia, kitty, mary and mrs. bennet were all on point! however i do feel like they toned down mr. bennet’s flaws and only focused on the funny/sarcastic side of his character. other than that, i liked him too :)
- i’ve seen many people who don’t like this mr. collins but honestly i really enjoyed him. he was ridiculous and absurd, and he annoyed the fuck out of everyone, which is accurate lol. i do wish they’d made him age appropriate bc... that man is not 25 lol. anyways, i actually thought this collins was more accurate than 2005!collins.
- oh, caroline, you sneaky thing! i have nothing to say about her, really. i think she was portrayed very accurately as well. and they included the hursts!
- mr. bingley was good too! love me some golden retriever energy
- and, of course, how could i not talk about colin firth as darcy! he was DISGUSTED to be around common gentry people. he looked like he’d rather hang himself from the ceiling than be in those goddamn social gatherings for one more minute. he was so displeased with everyone and clearly thought they were nothing but a pain in his ass, and i love that lol.
- but OH MY he’s a simp! he can’t stop staring at elizabeth for the life of him. istg he is so fascinated by her. that scene at rosings when lizzy is talking to colonel fitzwilliam and darcy just stared at them while she roasts the fuck out of him????? top tier
- one thing i adored about his performance was just how miserable he looks when she isn’t around! and mind you, this is DARCY we’re talking about.
- the lake scene was great, but CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT LOOK THEY GAVE EACH OTHER IN THAT ONE SCENE???? YES, THAT LOOK. YALL KNOW WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT. IT MAKES ME WEAKKK
- the ONLY note that i have is that i wish he smiled more, especially when they meet after the letter (but before that too)
- honestly the only bad thing i have to say about this adaptation is that the second proposal felt a little... underwhelming. it’s supposed to be this big emotional moment why do they look like they’re talking about the weather 😭
my conclusion: i’ve worshipped 2005 since the first time i watched but i feel like i’ve just become a 1995 stan, it was just so so good and so faithful to the book. and yes, i finished it two days ago. yes, i’ll be rewatching today.
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blush-and-books · 6 months ago
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QUESTION how does darvey compare to ur other ships?? i feel like their shared body language and the way they convey HISTORY is so unique ahaha
this is actually a great question and i would absolutely love to know your own other ships vs darvey, bc darvey is so different from so many of my ships!!!
i will say that joyce x hopper from stranger things is probably the only ship i have that even comes close to having any similarities to donna and harvey because of that sense of shared history, partnership, and platonic support leading into romantic support. but for the rest of my ships, it's like so opposite.
one of my main ships that is one of my most tagged ships on my blog is Julie and Luke from the netflix series Julie and the Phantoms!!! this series devastatingly only got ONE SEASON but had a huge following on tumblr. compared to donna and harvey's nine seasons and canonical 13 years of buildup, that inherently makes the ships very different, because Julie and Luke do not become "canon" (although mutual romantic feelings are made pretty darn clear). Julie and Luke have history together in an offhanded way - Luke is a ghost, and when he was 17, he actually met a young Julie's mom before she had Julie, and then he died, got trapped in purgatory(?) for 25 yrs, and then was brought back into the world as a ghost where he met Julie (after her own mom had passed away). This has resulted in a LOT of theories regarding them being soulmates - their characters mirror each other so well to the point that the colors of their costuming is often matching or inverted to each others clothing. They both have an undying love for music, mommy issues, and they fit together like two peas in a pod. Literally there's only one season of buildup, and there are over 3,000 works of fanfiction for them on ao3. Julie and Luke truly couldn't be more different lmao, because a lot of the magic that comes from them is a sense of destiny, inevitability, and their instant ability to be vulnerable with each other. With Donna and Harvey, the romance comes from the steadfast partnership and daily choice they make every day to choose each other.
Another big ship of mine is Anne and Gilbert from Anne with an E (or the whole Anne of Green Gables book series lol, but them in the AWAE tv adaptation is so good)!! They have a good amount of buildup and a sense of choosing each other, but the stakes are nowhere near as high as they are in Suits. Gilbert is so down bad for Anne the whole time. He's so the perfect man that I have a framed photo of him in my home. The TV show introduces us to their plotlines and character arcs as parallel tracks as they are finding their way through life and eventually meeting at the same place, whereas Donna and Harvey are definitely just on their own crazy journeys until they crash into each other and are finally in a place to be together. However, a very silly parallel that Anne/Gilbert has with Donna/Harvey is there is a sequence of Person B running to Person A when they realize that they're meant to be together. And Person A is a redhead.
Other ships I have are like Nina and Fabian from House of Anubis, or Zuko and Katara from ATLA. Also Mr. Darcy and Elizabeth Bennett from P&P. I think a lot of my ships involve the man blatantly worshipping the ground that the woman walks on and constantly being complimentary and admiring of her; where we get only crumbs of that kind of dynamic with Donna and Harvey. Harvey definitely thinks, and has stated as such, that Donna is the most amazing woman he's ever met, but because Donna and Harvey are not thee main plotline of the show or even arguably the main relationship (when compared to Mike and Rachel), there's a lot less room for there to be blatant moments where Harvey is like "wow she's amazing!!!" because he's just not that guy.
please also let me know your thoughts on this and what ships you have!!! do we share any?
also, my response to your domestic!Darvey ask is still unfortunately in the works. i just want you to know i did not forget about it!!! <3333
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agendabymooner · 1 year ago
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pride & pettiness || jb22 series (1)
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jenson button x ofc (british actress!ofc)
EXTENSION TO THE MR. DARCY TYPE (SMAU)
Summary: Ada James Abbott was an actress first and a writer second, but it seems like meeting a certain Jenson Button added more to her title as she learned to love and list down the most significant moments of her life with him.
OR her book, Mr. Driver, consisted of diary entries and memories that Ada remembered still to this day. These are the contents of the journals.
Content warning: Use of explicit language, Pride & Prejudice references, email exchanges, journal entries + scenarios (per time skip), fluff, yearning, Mr. Darcy & Lizzie Bennet dynamic (with a bit more humour and less aloofness), strangers to situationship to lovers??
Note: I’ve been talking to @daaiissyyyyy about sharing this thing because I have kept it in my drafts for a while. This may not continue or may continue but enjoy xx
a - n masterlist
o - z masterlist
i. 2004 In which, Ada and Jenson met for the first time. Also when the British actress found him attractive until he started talking.
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JOURNAL ENTRY 1: SILVERSTONE 2004 — MR. HONDA DRIVER IS A HANDSOME GIT
I thought Hugh Dancy was the most attractive and insufferable man to have ever existed. But then my manager generously forced me to attend a race in Silverstone that eventually led me to some man named Jenson Button. He graced the grid with his boyish smile and his trademark charm that made me wonder if girls had ever fallen to their knees to be with him. 
But his charm was arrogance in disguise. Who would have thought that a man so handsome could be stupid enough to downplay a stranger’s ability? Especially if he hadn’t seen enough of what I do? He doesn’t even know who I am and I don’t think that he is ever interested to know— but his jokes said otherwise. The endless flirting wasn’t the only thing that had my face flushing. 
I probably overthink his jokes and had taken it to heart. But I can’t be blamed for that. He’s just attractive and I thought that he had potential. Then again, I shouldn’t expect too much from men. 
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SILVERSTONE, ENGLAND
Martin Brundle and his Grid Walk was the best part of the race; each celebrity or guest who graced the race with their presence loved having a conversation with him. 
Ada James Abbott’s experience, however, was something of a memorable one. After all, meeting the most handsome man to have ever existed happened there. Live on the telly with his stupid attractive smile. 
“The movie, King Arthur, is in its first box office week. You happened to play Guinevere,” Martin pointed out, making Ada nod and grin.
She stood next to him with all the smiles that she could offer — just happy to be recognized by someone in this industry of sports. The former driver then continued, “And you’re here in the grid now to spectate and enjoy the race— do tell: why were you not here the last time when the Pirates of the Caribbean movie came out? We were anticipating your appearance as you have obviously played the role of Elizabeth Swann. I was hoping to tell you more about what I thought of it.”
Ada giggled quietly before answering, “The schedule was quite tight during that time with having to go to tours and promote the film and filming other works in progress. We can absolutely discuss what you think but I do not think that it’ll be something that everyone would like to hear about on such a busy day!” 
“Are you a fan of Formula One?” The reporter asked, a glint of curiosity washing through his features as he waited for the British actress to answer. 
Ada then hummed, “It used to be something I watched. My father tried to rope me into watching it with him before, but it seemed to be only effective for my brothers Ralph and Nathan. I would watch at least… a race every month. It’s- yeah- it’s not something I would watch by myself so being here now and watching the real thing is an experience my dad would kill to see firsthand.” 
“And you’ve met the drivers from the team you happened to be a guest in?” 
“I did,” Ada replied with a nod, “David Coulthard, or DC— he insisted that I call him that— is a lovely man. He ran through the basics of his car and obviously had put up with my lack of knowledge in the technical aspects of the race. Kimi Raikkönen is a rather reserved one, and we’d obviously have to work on our relationship because of the lack of communication. Otherwise, it is amazing! I’m quite fortunate to be at the McLaren gar—“
“Would you look at that beauty!” Ada turned towards the direction of the voice and found herself staring at the facial features of the speaker. 
A handsome man, he was. 
“I think that you are speaking about yourself, Jenson,” Martin joked as ‘Jenson’ approached the two, now standing next to Ada as her face flushed red. “That head of yours would make the car lose its balance.” 
“I didn’t say anything about myself,” Jenson scoffed playfully before peering down at Ada with a… smirk.
Ada lost all of her senses as Jenson began to speak, “‘Sides, if anything— this pretty face would make me lose my balance.” 
“I assume that you’ve seen Ada James Abbott before,” Martin piped up, making Ada glance at the man and shift back to look at him.
She wasn’t able to see the handsome man, Jenson, next to her, but she could remember how the upper part of his race suit hung from his waist and how his eyes lingered on her. 
What she wasn’t able to see however was the shaking of his head. Martin then continued to speak, “She’s quite an amazing actress, Jenson.”
“Is she really?” This comment had Ada turning as she looked at Jenson, whose smirk continued to grow while he spoke. “I’d believe any lie that you would tell me, especially if I’m being graced with your beauty.”
“What is that supposed to mean, exactly?” Ada spewed out, slightly baffled as he laughed heartily. 
“I’m just saying,” Jenson winked at her, “I’ll believe it when I see a trophy, darling.” 
With one comment, all the butterflies in her stomach had turned into something more sour. Ada Abbott’s smile turned strained as she only nodded before looking back at Martin Brundle. She wasn’t about to give this man the time of day right now. Perhaps he’d have to either retract his words or at least act like he just insulted her on live television instead of joking around like nothing happened. 
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JOURNAL ENTRY 2: EAT YOUR OWN WORDS, MR. HONDA DRIVER.
I just won my third trophy of the year. It’s quite amazing. But there’s something wonderful about making Jenson Button eat his own words. It was probably my pride that asked for his email address but sending him an image felt nothing of malice but satisfaction. God, did it feel so good. 
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TO BE CONTINUED
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cocoscurios · 16 days ago
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Me: I'm so busy, I need to finish a few projects.
Also me: So we should definitely start a new project then?
Anyway, chapter-by-chapter commentary for The Hour, the Spot, the Look, the Words, starting now!
Chapter One: A Place to Call Home Fun fact: I originally planned for The Hour to be a series of drabbles (I was writing Important Nothings at the time and wanted to do a Darcy/Elizabeth project in the same style). I very quickly changed direction when I realized I had a ton of material ready to go in the form of a million D/E scraps accumulated over years of writing about these two idiots. Also, I had no idea what to use for a chapter title here, but I was working in a library at that point, and A Place to Call Home was an enormously popular series with our patrons (I put those DVDs away so. many. times.). Voila, chapter title.
The newlywed Darcys had, at last, arrived at Pemberley, and Fitzwilliam had dismissed the servants.
“I will show Mrs. Darcy around the place,” he had said.
Elizabeth glowed with happiness at the words Mrs. Darcy, and Mrs. Reynolds had positively beamed at the pair of them. Mrs. Reynolds is lowkey the hero of Pride and Prejudice, and, let's be real, she ships Elizabeth/Darcy harder than any of us.
Fitzwilliam offered her his hand. “Shall we?”
She took it with a smile and allowed him to lead her up the stairs, giggling as his pace increased and he took the top few steps at a run.
He turned around to look at her, his face shining with a boyish delight that she had never seen before.
“What would you like to see first?” he asked.
“Oh, I do believe I should inspect everything,” said Elizabeth archly. “The mistress of Pemberley ought to, you know.”
He smiled at this phrase. “I quite agree.” Some Courtney Lore that I have alluded to: my best friend and I came up with elaborate backstories and headcanons and scenarios for pretty much everything in Austen, and especially P&P, and this scene has lived in my mind, in one form or another, since I was about sixteen. We basically plotted out The Newlywed Tour as a way to thoroughly map Pemberley. I could draw up the blueprints if I had to. 
And so he did show her around the place, all of the rooms that she had seen before, and many, many more that she had not.
“I am a bit frightened, Fitzwilliam, of getting lost in your house.” 
“Our house,” he corrected. “And you will learn your way around soon enough.”
“That is very true,” she said. “And after all, I do not intend to be apart from you long enough to have the chance to lose my way, so I shall always have a guide.”
The tour was very enjoyable, but still more was the pleasure of feeling her hand in his, and of hearing his obvious gratification in speaking of Pemberley, his eager anticipation of showing her all of his favorite spots in the house and on the grounds, and his wish for her to see them all to their best advantage. She let the sound of his voice wash over her as he told her of names, and dates, and events, content to listen and to admire him equally as well as the estate.
He led her to yet another door, pausing slightly before opening it. They stepped into an elegant, airy sort of room with a spectacular view. 
“This was my mother’s favorite room,” he said softly. I'll explore it eventually, but my headcanon is that Darcy's relationship with his mother was much more complicated than with his father. It wasn't bad! He loved her very much! But the dynamic was complex! 
“It is beautiful,” Elizabeth breathed, leaning into his arm and taking in the sight. The windows were large, offering a delightful prospect of the grounds glistening with snow, and it would be an even more magnificent sight in the full bloom of spring. It seemed a serene, restful space; she could easily see why Lady Anne had loved this room. I struggle with writing descriptions of places. I vividly recall trying to write about this damn room, when all I wanted was to put IT'S BREATHTAKING, THIS IS A BIG GESTURE, LET'S MOVE ON. I'm just saying, this mediocre paragraph took ages and caused me physical pain. 
“I would like for you to have it.” He had watched her intently and seen all the delight that had passed over her face.
She looked up at him, startled. 
“Oh, no, if it was your mother’s favorite, it should stay as it is." She thought of his father’s favorite room, kept so perfectly that the miniature of Wickham still remained. One of those details about Darcy that I find endlessly fascinating. I want to know how often he goes into that room; if he avoids it entirely or averts his eyes from That Man when he's in there or if he just grits his teeth and bears it.   "I could not possibly--”
“Georgiana and I have already discussed it,” he said, looking at her earnestly. “This has not been our mother’s sitting room for a very long time. If you like it, it is yours.” Headcanon about Darcy is that he includes Georgiana in a lot of this sort of decision-making. 
“I do like it,” said Elizabeth, touched.
“It is settled then.” 
He squeezed her hand gently, looking pleased. She took one last look at the room before they shut the door once more. The view really was breathtaking, and it was hers. The house was hers. This wonderful, honorable, good man was hers. What had she done to deserve such happiness?
Lost in these thoughts, she scarcely noticed that Fitzwilliam had paused again, looking wistful.
“Georgiana and I used to race down this passage,” he said, smiling slightly at the reminiscence. 
Elizabeth looked at him with amazement.
“When?” she asked. She was unable to picture it.
“It would have been when I was about sixteen or so,” he said, “just after my mother died. Georgiana was four. My father--” he hesitated. “That was a difficult period for all of us. I spent most of my time with Georgiana. It seemed to bring her some happiness, and we spent hours up here.” He gave a crooked little smile. “We made a great deal of noise and destroyed our stockings." Darcy is the best big brother ever, guys. I'm not sure what else to tell you.
And Elizabeth could picture it now: her husband, so much younger than she had ever known him, comforting his little sister by running up and down this passage, laying aside his own grief to help relieve hers. There were so many little things like this that she did not know about him; a seemingly endless stream of evidence to prove how kind he had been for so long, how rightfully beloved he had been to the people in his life, how badly she herself had misjudged him. The Mrs. Reynolds chapter in canon is SO IMPORTANT. Darcy is good and kind and generous to his people. He is not a complete jerk, totally reformed by Elizabeth. He is a situational jerk, rightfully shamed by Elizabeth to extend his natural goodness outside of his comfort zone. ;)
...Sorry, that's a pet peeve.
She wanted to know everything. 
They continued to wander through Pemberley, looking into more rooms than Elizabeth could count, and eventually found themselves at the top of another sweeping staircase.
“My father and I used to slide down this balustrade when I was a boy,” Fitzwilliam said fondly. “It is the best one in the house.” BLATANT HOMAGE TO ELLA ENCHANTED. Not even an homage. BLATANT STEALING FROM ELLA ENCHANTED. Ella/Char was my first real OTP (Felicity Merriman/Ben Davidson predates it, but I didn't have the terminology then. I've been a hopeless romantic since I was about six). I was thrilled to learn recently that Gail Carson Levine had some elements of Elizabeth and Darcy in mind with Ella and Char. Anyway, imagine your OTP, etc.
He smiled at Elizabeth’s expression. 
“I begin to believe, Fitzwilliam, that I shall never stop being surprised by you.” I think that Elizabeth loves this. 
This provoked from him a more mischievous look than she had imagined him capable of forming.
“I cannot always be serious,” he said, his eyes sparkling. “I will catch you at the bottom.”
With a laugh, she watched him go, feeling all of the privilege of seeing this side of him, and then followed him down. One of the things I return to, again and again, is Elizabeth getting a side of Darcy that few others see. It's just so warm, guys, I don't know. <3 
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jedimaesteryoda · 11 months ago
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"Petyr Baelish loved me once. He was only a boy. His passion was a tragedy for all of us, but it was real, and pure, and nothing to be made mock of. He wanted my hand. That is the truth of the matter. You are truly an evil man, Lannister." -AGOT, Tyrion IV
Catelyn looks at Petyr's feelings for her, and tries to convince herself that it was just a kid's crush, missing that it was something darker and more problematic. He challenged her betrothed Brandon to a duel for her hand. Note, he didn't even bother to ask Catelyn herself for her hand, let alone what she wanted, he just went and challenged Brandon for her hand as if she were a prize to be won. He also didn't take the hint when he asked for her favor and gave it to Brandon instead. Petyr himself believes he loved Cat, but in truth, he didn't actually love her, he confused infatuation and obsession with romantic love. Actual love is exemplified by Mr. Darcy to Elizabeth in Pride and Prejudice: "If your feelings are still what they were last April, tell me so at once. My affections and wishes are not changed, but one word from you will silence me on this subject forever." Darcy made it clear to Elizabeth that if she didn't want to be with him, he would respect that. That is love, it involves respect for the other person and treating them as an equal, even if their choices and wishes are not in line with yours.
Rather than love, Littlefinger's attitude is more male entitlement, being possessive and treating Catelyn as his property. He also plots her family's downfall in part due to being denied her.
"I used to dream of it, in those years after Cat went north with Eddard Stark. In my dreams it was ever a dark place, and cold."
He even liked to think of Winterfell as a cold, dark place, because he wanted Catelyn to be miserable in her marriage to Ned. He didn't wish her to find happiness, because he didn't want to imagine the possibility of her being happy with someone else. The only image of her being happy had to include him, which speaks to his vindictiveness and selfishness.
He repeats it with her daughter Sansa. Cersei remembers "Petyr Baelish had offered to wed the girl himself, she recalled, but of course that was impossible; he was much too lowborn," to which Petyr saw as a reliving of his past of Cat's hand being denied to him over his lowborn status. He reacted with the same vindictiveness, manipulating Joffrey into beheading Ned to screw Cersei despite knowing it would clearly hurt Sansa. He brought Sansa to the Vale where she is effectively his prisoner as she has nowhere else to go and nor will he let her. It's exactly the kind of relationship dynamic he wanted with Cat: one where he has all the power and control in the relationship and she is compliant, serving at his side and being the object of his desires, unable to reject his advances.
Littlefinger for all his purported genius, has a pattern of recklessness when dealing with Tully/Stark girls. He challenged a more experienced and stronger fighter to a duel for Cat's hand, and forces a kiss on Sansa in the godswood where Lysa sees. He also wasn't the lovesick romantic Cat hoped he was, but an entitled, vindictive abuser who only wants a relationship where his desires are the only ones that matter and he has the power.
But like with Cat, he will learn that women often have desires and wishes of their own. He won't win over Sansa any more than he could her mother.
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torturedpoetsofpemberley · 3 months ago
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These two memes capture the enemies-to-lovers and somewhat feminist trope in Pride and Prejudice, themes I specifically wanted to talk about after observing the version we saw in Special Collections. Pride and Prejudice can be argued to be the original enemies to lovers stories and feminist stories, with the opening line reading, "It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife." But in fact, the line is meant to be satire and is trying to communicate the opposite of what it means. In fact, at this time, it is women and their families who are seeking rich husbands and have agency in this situation. Furthermore, a "well-off" single man is not seeking a wife, but in his neighbors' eyes, he “must” or has to be seeking one, because they need him to be.
As we continue to read, we are introduced to Elizabeth Bennett—arguably one of the most feminist heroines of her time. While women were expected to embody passivity and charm, Elizabeth stands as a sharp contrast. She's independent, bold, and unafraid to challenge the expectations of her gender. Her walk through the mud to see her sister demonstrates her disregard for superficial standards of propriety, and her refusal of not one, but two marriage proposals, is a radical statement of agency. The moment she overhears Darcy belittling her at the ball is a turning point, but instead of wilting like many heroines of the time would, Elizabeth steels herself. Her declaration that Darcy is the last man she'd ever marry isn’t just a personal affront—it’s a rejection of the very societal forces that dictate a woman's worth by her marriage prospects. This is what makes the enemies-to-lovers trope in Pride and Prejudice so compelling. Elizabeth’s refusal to conform to expectations and Darcy’s eventual growth and humility build a romance based on mutual respect, not domination or submission. Darcy’s growth, in turn, is essential to the evolution of their relationship. His initial pride and entitlement are slowly eroded as he begins to realize that his wealth and status do not entitle him to Elizabeth’s love—or anyone’s, for that matter. His journey from arrogance to humility mirrors Elizabeth’s own determination to maintain her integrity. It is only once Darcy humbles himself—by addressing his pride, making amends for the wrongs he’s done, and learning to respect Elizabeth’s independence—that their relationship can truly begin. So the romance, comedy, and heartbreak in this story is so touching to the soul, but more importantly, it is one of the few stories of the time in which the romance is built on respect and not personal gain. This subversion of traditional gender dynamics—where the woman’s value isn’t measured by her ability to secure a wealthy husband, but by her wit, integrity, and independence—makes Pride and Prejudice a romantic and a somewhat feminist narrative.
I indicate that Pride and Prejudice is not entirely feminist, as there is still some unintentional support for traditional gender norms and expectations through the emphasis of the female dependence on marriage, portraying characters like Mrs. Bennett as representations of insanity, revealing the results of female disobedience, and restricting women’s options and ambitions.
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bethanydelleman · 1 year ago
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Have you seen Bride and Prejudice lol
I love Bride and Prejudice! Especially what they did with Mr. Collins! No Life Without Wife lives rent free in my head:
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Mr. Collins (Kohli) is exactly what he should be, a very safe option but not someone Elizabeth (Lalita) likes.
I like how they maintained class distinctions and found a modern way to explore the pressure to marry to improve economic realities. I like their Caroline Bingley (Kiran). I love the songs. I love the ending.
I wish they had spent a bit more time on the Darcy/Lalita dynamic. Darcy seems more "fish out of water" than disdainful of India (I think to be in his original character they should play up the disdain). It's a difficult line to walk though.
Also, Wickham was appropriately cute and charming!
Overall, great, one of my favourite Pride & Prejudice adaptations.
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anghraine · 1 year ago
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I saw a popular author post about how, while of course Elizabeth has some obligatory flaws, Darcy's are exponentially more severe, and it was like stepping into a view so far removed from mine that it was almost disorienting.
The thing is, I periodically see people wondering why Elizabeth/Darcy is such a behemoth in Austen fandom when either/both of them have substantial flaws that the narrative doesn't shy away from. Their flaws aren't identical, but they do obviously mirror each other and are thematically intertwined, with reflecting character arcs and specific beats. As I see it, the novel maintains a tense and careful balance between them—not in terms of centrality (Elizabeth's mistakes and growth are more central to the narrative than Darcy's IMO) but in terms of the weight given their flaws and virtues.
And for me that's essential to their appeal!
I love plenty of other Austen characters and relationships, but for me, personally, none of the other canon pairings are balanced in such a fun and satisfying way. The closest (and the other most conventionally romantic pairing in Austen IMO) is probably Anne/Wentworth, where at least the choices of both of them are heavy contributors to their current problems. But a) the novel is ambivalent as to whether Anne actually erred morally in the first place and b) that is long in the past by the time of the novel; the Anne of the main story of Persuasion is a fairly idealized figure by contrast to Wentworth.
I sometimes see arguments that, say, Anne or Mr Knightley or Elinor Dashwood or whomever are actually as flawed and prone to error as their romantic counterparts, but I just ... don't buy it, honestly. As far as canon Austen goes, I only really see that balance in the course of the main story with Elizabeth/Darcy. P&P loves them and holds them up as admirable (and they are!), but it also loves undercutting them in clearly paralleling ways and does it over and over throughout the novel.
So the idea of an Elizabeth and Darcy where one of them has obligatory storytelling flaws that can't seriously be compared to the other's is just ... blah. It cuts out the fundamental interconnection and resonance between them that I think is built into the structure of the novel down to its bones and is what makes their relationship special. A lot of stories pay lip-service to that kind of dynamic, sure, but despite the many (many) imitators, I don't often see it done successfully. But P&P is the real deal.
So yeah, when people are like "why do people like Elizabeth with Darcy so much when she could have a different man who doesn't make serious mistakes" I'm just thinking ... why on earth would I want Elizabeth "there was truth in his looks" Bennet with someone who would never make mistakes on that level? Or when people are like, Darcy's just misunderstood, wouldn't he be better off with Jane [or another relatively idealized female character] it's like ... hell no, I love him, but I do not want to inflict him on that poor woman.
It's not that there's something wrong with multishipping them (I've written alternate pairings for both!) or shipping them with other people, but just in terms of the novel as it exists, I do think the balance and echoes between them are part of what makes the novel work and one of the sources of their long-standing popularity. And I feel that trying to pin the "real" blame on one or the other up-ends that balance and diminishes a lot of what I, at least, find appealing about the dynamic between them.
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notverycolonthreeofyou · 6 months ago
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please yap about what movies and tv shows remind you of creek because i love them and would love to hear about it :)
God bless you 🙏 I will yap about two (2) of them (thank you for your service)
Pride and Prejudice is a BIG ONE!!!!
Elizabeth is Tweek and Craig is Mr. Darcy obviously. As someone who does enjoy fanon very much, I just think that the dynamic works well for an AU. Also admittedly I love Tweek just having an absolute Problem with Craig originally I think it’s funny every single time
I do think about this every time I watch Pride and Prejudice (If you’re wondering- Jane is Marjorine and Mr. Bingley is Kenny. I just think it’s sweet)
Get ready for the actual yapping part:
Unfortunately I do also have to say Miraculous Ladybug
I watched many seasons and I have many gripes with this show. But it literally works SO WELL for Creek that every time I think about it I send my girlfriend several angry messages because it shouldn’t work as well as it WOULD
Tweek is Marinette. Yes for the baking obviously but just the talent???? The insecurity in general and also related to their skills???? Marinette literally can do so much but she still struggles with a lot of doubt, and that’s Very Tweek
Craig is Adrien because yes okay that is the only option left BUT Craig being a model makes me die laughing I’m obsessed with that as a concept
And yes I do like Tweek still just having a Problem with Craig in this AU. I cannot explain why it makes me laugh every time
Ladybug Tweek being able to grow into himself more and understand that he Can do things means a lot to me. Also I just think that it’s precious
I just really like superhero Tweek which is why I started writing a fanfiction where he’s a superhero LMAO
(Twilight is another one but I won’t get into that)
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writerthreads · 1 year ago
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10 enemies to lovers book recommendations
By Chatgpt because I don’t have enough recs sorry!!
1. "Pride and Prejudice" by Jane Austen
This classic novel follows the spirited Elizabeth Bennet and the proud Mr. Darcy as they navigate misunderstandings and societal expectations on their journey from initial disdain to true love.
2. "The Hating Game" by Sally Thorne
Lucy and Joshua are coworkers who share an intense mutual dislike. However, when they're up for a promotion, their relationship takes an unexpected turn, leading to a delightful romantic comedy.
3. "The Unhoneymooners" by Christina Lauren
Olive and Ethan despise each other but are forced to go on a honeymoon trip together. This leads to a series of humorous mishaps and eventually a change of heart.
4. "The Kiss Quotient" by Helen Hoang
Stella, a successful woman with Asperger's, hires an escort, Michael, to help her gain more experience in romantic relationships. What starts as a business arrangement turns into something deeper.
5. "The Cruel Prince" by Holly Black
In this dark fantasy novel, Jude, a mortal girl, despises the wicked faerie prince, Cardan. But as she becomes embroiled in the treacherous world of the fae, her feelings for him become complicated.
6. "Red, White & Royal Blue" by Casey McQuiston
Alex, First Son of the United States, and Prince Henry of Wales have a longstanding rivalry. After a public altercation, they're forced to fake a friendship, which turns into something much more.
7. "Vicious" by L.J. Shen
This steamy romance novel features enemies-to-lovers dynamics between a ruthless billionaire, Baron, and a young woman, Melody, who is determined to get her revenge.
8. "The Wall of Winnipeg and Me" by Mariana Zapata
Vanessa works as a personal assistant to a gruff football player, Aiden. Over time, their contentious relationship evolves into a deep and heartfelt love story.
9. "The Simple Wild" by K.A. Tucker
Calla heads to Alaska to reconnect with her estranged father, who's a pilot. She butts heads with Jonah, one of her father's employees, leading to a tumultuous and passionate romance.
10. "The Flatshare" by Beth O'Leary
Tiffy and Leon share a flat but never meet. They communicate through notes and slowly discover each other's lives, forming a unique connection that turns into a sweet love story.
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iamnmbr3 · 3 months ago
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Some Dramione shippers claim Draco and Hermione are like Mr. Darcy and Elizabeth in Pride and prejudice. though i heard even some Drarry shippers say so —ofcourse pride and prejudice is foundation of every enemies to lovers lol— what's your honest opinion? Do you think their dynamics is the same as Draco and Hermione's?!
So first a disclaimer that I think everyone should be free to ship what they like and interpret things how they want. This is just me giving my personal opinion here, not trying to attack anyone else or say people are wrong for engaging with the canon in a different way than I do.
Now that's out of the way, personally I don't see it. Hermione and Draco's relationship is very different from Elizabeth and Darcy's. A lot of the reasons for Elizabeth's dislike of Darcy are rooted in misunderstandings and misinformation. For example Wickham straight up lies to her about Darcy's supposedly dastardly actions and some instances that she interprets as Darcy being cold and aloof are just him being kind of awkward and shy. That said, he does also behave towards her in an arrogant, entitled and at times belittling manner which makes her more inclined to believe other bad things about him.
However, though he displays some prejudice towards her and her family and also is just kinda rude to her at times, he certainly doesn't go around calling her slurs or supporting the politics of an extremist group apparently dedicated to wiping people like her out. And a lot of the really bad things he gets accused of turn out to be things he didn't actually do. That's a VERY different relationship dynamic than what Hermione and Draco have.
I feel like a lot of dramione fic kind of turns the two characters into OCs. Draco is a misunderstood Darcy-esque badboy with a cold exterior and a heart of gold and Hermione is a perfect Mary Sue who would be improved by being an Elizabeth clone because while she still wouldn't be Hermione at least she might have some character depth. That's fine. You do you but at that point it's just a fic about two entirely different characters.
This is not to say that I think dramione couldn't be interesting. But I don't think the vibe is that similar to Pride & Prejudice as the context and personalities of the two characters is very different. I'm also personally not as interested in the ship because I don't see as much narrative richness or compatibility as with drarry. But that's just me. I wouldn't be opposed to reading it if I saw a fic that caught my interest.
(Also I love Pride & Prejudice but enemies to lover was definitely already a thing - for example Shakespeare's Much Ado About Nothing...not to mention Coriolanus).
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