#i know this binghe double isn’t evil

[raddestrose]

Bro was so in love that he didn’t realize that it was his husband’s evil twin

[zykamiliah]

i have so so many ideas about these two specially mbj because

he hates humans, right? he's very distrustful of them. and he's a demon pureblood through and through, double traumatized by how messed up his culture is, by his own family dynamics and by how human cultivators hurt him when he was a little boy.

and later on original sqh gets himself killed, i'm gonna guess because his relationship with mbj wasn't good (“After you’re exposed as a spy, Mobei-Jun kills you outright to silence you." Ch5: Bai Lu), since in the pidw timeline he doesn't kill sqh when the latter is exposed. the fact is that mbj doesn't like humans and with o!sqh he's proven right.

and then. you have bingge, who is half-human and half-demon. who is stronger than him. who is very very beautiful, despite being able to wipe the floor with mbj.

in the svsss timeline, lbh holds a grudge against mbj for what he did at the iac. but that's not the case with pidw!mbj and bingge.

mbj was minding his business, being indifferent to everything and everyone around him, when suddenly this teenager in the cusp of adulthood comes at him, beats him thoroughly, and- it's not clear if lbh coerced him to be his subordinate or not, but since demons respect strength and sqq's wording here ("he would mysteriously capitulate to the protagonist, to the point of letting himself be ordered about") it seems mbj is willingly following bingge for reasons that are never specified.

let's take a look at more pidw mbj related quotes

Why would Luo Binghe’s future subordinate, his magnificent right hand—and best buddy for committing evil deeds, murder, and mayhem—show up right here and now?!

"magnificent right hand", cough, "best buddy"- THE THING IS. LUO BINGHE DOESN'T HAVE FRIENDS. HE ONLY HAS SUBORDINATES. HE DOESN'T LIKE MEN. IN BOTH PIDW AND SVSSS MBJ IS ONE OF TWO PEOPLE LBH WILLINGLY LETS STAND BY HIS SIDE.

okay i'll calm down.

In three years, Luo Binghe will be able to single-handedly beat you until you can’t get up—and won’t you still become his diligent henchman? You’d really be slapping your own face.

i can't with the innuendo lmao

Luo Binghe’s gaze frosted over, his aura changing in an instant. Sensing this shocking change, a cold flash of interest shot through Mobei-Jun’s pale blue eyes. He abruptly summoned a pure-black sword of ice out of thin air.

yes yes yes, this is from the IAC and they aren't 100% the same characters, but listen- their fight still happens in pidw, and probably had some of the same beats: mbj sensing how powerful lbh was, his interested being picked by this, him pulling out all the stops to try to win against a heavenly demon. in pidw the fight was probably longer, but it still ended with mbj unable to get up. now, knowing who the writer is, and since bingge is airplane's self-insert, while mbj is his favorite character, you can imagine that the fight was probably brimming with homoerotic subtext. (and this is why airplane wants to fuck mbj ehem) then, for whatever reason, mbj capitulates to bingge. was it because bingge was a heavenly demon? because he was too strong? because other mysterious reasons he'll never tell anyone about because the only emotion he feels safe enough to express is anger?

now, remember how demons' -and mbj's- love language is beating up your crush (sighs) and i'm not saying he had a crush on lbh in this scene

“Not bad.” Ignoring whether Luo Binghe was in a state to understand him, he continued. “The Human Realm isn’t where you belong. Why not return to your origins?”

he's basically inviting him to the demon realm. now let's not take this scene literally, since there are other factors at play. for once, mbj's relationship with sqh in this timeline is better. but what's undeniable is mbj's interest in lbh from the start. be it just because lbh is a heavenly demon or not, because of his strength and the way he fights- we won't know. but imagine a bingge practically fresh from the abyss knocking- crashing mbj's palace to fight him.

mbj was "idling his life away, completely indifferent to everyone else", until bingge showed up to literally rock his world. and then mbj proceeds to follow him for the rest of his life. from then own, a great part of his life will revolve around bingge's.

and as every pidw character, i assume mbj takes his loyalty to lbh very seriously, and vice versa.

This NPC really was so straight to the point, not a moment spared—completely in line with his modus operandi in the original work. He’d show up wherever Luo Binghe needed him without rhyme or reason. His actions were just that forced, a total maverick, needing not a shred of logic! Chapter 4: Conference

now we know that when pidw became real, everything that happened would need to have a reason. so there's nothing forced about his behavior- rather, it just makes you curious as to why was mbj so diligent and obedient with bingge. "mysterious" reasons indeed.

the other important mobing crumb we have comes from airplane extra, during mbj's succession ceremony.

In the original work, Bing-ge was by Mobei-Jun’s side during this, acting the part of the wolf in sheep’s clothing and lending him a hand along the way—then undercutting the Mobei clan after Mobei-Jun ascended to the throne, as was only to be expected (...) So the person Mobei-Jun had brought to help him was Shang Qinghua’s useless-ass self!

the fact that in the original timeline bingge played the role of protector during the moment mbj would be most vulnerable goes to show how much mbj trusted bingge, as that's the reason svsss!mbj brought sqh.

For this sort of life-and-death situation, you should obviously find a trusted confidant—your most impressive ally!

(i know this is a mobing post but come on-- mbj is soooo gone for sqh. like it's ridiculous ♥)

because of what happened with his uncle mbj has trust issues, but in pidw he trusts bingge with his life...

Mobei-Jun had lost his mother very young, and the person to whom he had most closely stuck in his youth was precisely this youngest uncle

so remember how mbj would just go hang out at sqh's leisure house? how he'd allow sqh to stick by his side in the demon realm and dangerous situations? well i think mbj's second love language is that-- sticking by his closest person side.

conclusion: pidw!mbj's feelings for bingge encompass loyalty and deep trust, and also a willingness to spend time with bingge and do whatever bingge requires him. he has also expressed interest in bingge for being as strong/stronger than him. taking into account how awful mbj's life is and how lonely he is, bingge is the only person in pidw!mbj's life he's actually close too. there's also a unknown factor to his loyalty to bingge that is regarded as "mysterious" that could be anything from profound respect to admiration to a crush to an actual unrequited love.

as for bingge reciprocating- everyone knows that bingge's is sqh's self-insert and as such they share many traits. that mbj and sy parallel each other in many ways. that cumplane in the metaship of the whole svsss since every character somehow reflects sqh. then it goes without saying that sqh's self-insert and sqh's ideal man could end up together in the right circumstances.

PIDW!MOBEI-JUN HAS A CRUSH ON BINGGE

exhibit 1

Demons were compelled to viciously bully the person they liked. Only if the object of their affections failed to die would the demon accept them. If their target died, that meant they were useless and not worth nursing any lingering affections for. (Chapter 3: Favor Points)

exhibit 2

Mobei-Jun thought about it. With the paths his mind was given to take, there was no telling how he had interpreted “unique” feelings. “Beat them up three times a day?” (Chapter 26: Airplane's Fortuitous Encounter)

exhibit 3

Mobei-Jun was a pure-blooded demon, a supremely orthodox demonic second-gen. In the future, he would inherit his family’s territory on the demonic border in the north, and after that, he would spend all his time appearing and disappearing at will, idling his life away, completely indifferent to everyone else. However, this maverick was destined to get beaten up by a Luo Binghe who had suddenly activated his overpowered abilities. Thereafter, he would mysteriously capitulate to the protagonist, to the point of letting himself be ordered about. From then on, Luo Binghe would have an exceptionally badass-looking errand boy and loyal sidekick. (Chapter 4: Conference)

MOBING IS REAL (at least from mbj's side)

(i doubt he knows he has a crush but you can't tell me that "mysteriously capitulating to the protagonist" isn't code for gay feelings)

[sanjuno]

Meta Fic rides again

I'm a little stuck on how to word something in my Nano 2020 project so I decided to take a break by trying to read “Scum Villain’s Self Saving System” again and failed horribly because I got to the part when Binghe comes back and my interest died a quick and messy death for yet a third time. Someone write me a giant pile of gen-fic and LiuShen AUs to heal my heart.

Here, I’ll start us off:

Spite and Fury (or; PEDW is a hive of Scum and Villainy)

So bitter-old-man!Madara dies of old age after he passes his Epic Revenge Plot over into Obito’s keeping, and the Sage’s knockoff-brand cycle-of-transmigration peels Indra’s chakra out of Madara’s soul - which results in dying!Madara having a screaming ragefit that sends his spirit-and-chakra careening through the void between worlds

At which point shattered-and-fragmenting-more!Madara gets into an altercation with the System and since the System is a little bitch it tosses Madara into the worst possible Fate it can think of (see: PEDW)

Transmigration bullshit and Sharingan fuckery smash into each other in a gigantic clusterfuck of asspulls

Madara is missing bits because Indra’s imprint got ripped out

The Shen Jiu base soul is missing bits because torture and previous abuse of his character by the System

The resulting villain amalgamation is Not Pleased

Instead of landing in the divergence point chosen by the System - aka the Qi deviation fever shortly after Binghe arrives at Cang Qiong Sect – we instead have the jigsaw puzzle mashup of Mads-and-Jiu land in baby-slave Jiu’s body

The good news is Madara and Jiu stop fragmenting because they end up woven together - they’re stuck together as an almost-single person only with two different sets of memories

Character exploration is going to be an EVENT

Also the Madara part of them is really happy with the silky smooth hair

Also Yue “lets-Binghe-kill-him-because-he-thinks-Shen-Jiu-is-dead” Qi is cast is a much better light when compared to Senju “stabs-his-sworn-brother-in-the-back” Hashirama

So Mads-Jiu plays it close to canon for the first few years - the only real difference is that he tags his Jiejie with a tracking seal for after he escapes from slavery - he’s not leaving his ability to find her again up to chance or developing a reputation as a whoremonger if he can help it

When he gets bought by the Qiu is when Mads-Jiu starts being a manipulative little shit like we all know he is

Xanatos-pileup-or-bust!Mads-Jiu basically lets Yue Qi escape alone because he NEEDS Yue Qi to become Cang Qiong Sect Leader for his long-term plans to work properly

So Mads-Jiu warns Yue Qi that if he has to be CAREFUL because cultivating is dangerous and if Yue Qi comes back missing any pieces then Jiu will cut the EXACT SAME BITS OFF HIMSELF

And so Yue Qi is EXTREMELY safety conscious and the life eating sword drama is avoided entirely

Of course he’s also taking longer to reach his initial strength levels than in canon because he isn’t rushing

So there’s nothing like Yue Qi showing up early to trigger a plot divergence alert in the System

</mwahahaha>

Mads-Jiu is more pragmatic regarding Qiu Haitang’s so-called innocence this time around - and so he arranges for her to catch the Creeper Qiu bro abusing and assaulting Shen Jiu

Haitang is HORRIFIED AND DISGUSTED to see what her brother is doing to her fiancé and also TERRIFIED by the fact that he talks the entire time about how sweet it’s going to be when it’s HAITANG under him

The Qiu burn on schedule but Haitang kills her fair share - double Qi deviations FTW!

The system does not notice such a minor change in the background events - Jiu kills the Qiu, burns down their house, and Haitang survives the fire with vengeance raging in her heart

Mads-Jiu kills the demonic creeper that was hanging around because ew no and also keep your hands of Haitang

Again, it’s too close to canon for the System to notice - Jiu killed him in defense of a “childhood friend” so hahaha again

Instead of being used as a stalking horse by an evil master Mads-Jiu runs off with Haitang to track down and rescue his Jiejie

Shenanigans ensue

Afterwards Mads-Jiu “has an idea to help find Qi-ge” by asking around for him at the Immortal Alliance Conference

Of course there are more shenanigans and Yue Qi saves all three by claiming that they’re Cang Qiong disciples - so of course he drags all 3 of them back with him and wibbles at the current Sect Leader until he lets them all join

Still (mostly) following canon! Ha! So no “punishment” events get triggered in the System (which is mostly dormant because the Protagonist isn’t born yet XP)

Qiu Haitang was supposed to join a Sect! Jiejie got sold on schedule! Shen Jiu killed the Qiu and his “first master”! Yue pesters his Shizun into letting his sibling(s) join the Sect in an unorthodox fashion!

But the devil is in the details

And the devil’s name is Uchiha Madara

Jiejie ends up as Peak Lord for Talisman Peak because magic and seals saved her before

Haitang ends up Peak Lord for Hidden Peak because she refuses to be caught unawares by a dangerous secret ever again... also because she’s a mean sneaky bitch and owns it

Having more than one sibling for the Sect Leader to blatantly favour means less wholesale resentment directed at Mads-Jiu as well

However the Jiu part of them has memories from PIDW and also SVSSS - so he knows that shit is going to get horrible once Su Xiyan gets knocked up

Obviously the answer is to seduce all of his fellow peak lords into a glorious polyamorous clusterfuck so as to promote skinship and pack bonding and harmony among the sect leadership

(It worked for PIDW Binghe with his wives and SVSSS Shen Yuan with getting Bing-mei to chill his tits after all and nobody can trip you into bed quite like a shinobi)

And so Cang Qiong’s family aesthetics get rocked so hard that instead of panting after his Shizun baby disciple Binghe decides to seduce his peers...

... and his rivals

... and other sect’s disciples

... and the occasional demon

Mads-Jiu is really proud of his baby demon lord but makes sure not to single Binghe out - instead every Qing Jing disciple gets rewarded and punished at the same time

It promotes bonding! And teamwork!

And prevents the utter destruction of Mads-Jiu’s chrysanthemum via oversized demonic pillar!

There is totally going to be an extra where Mads-Jiu realizes that the average size of a male cultivators pillar is DANGEROUSLY EXCESSIVE

NOBODY NEEDS THAT MUCH PILLAR

Even HIS pillar hasn’t escaped the curse

BIGGER IS NOT BETTER!

How the fuck is he supposed to fight if he can’t even wear pants comfortably!?!?

(No wait come back Mu-shidi this shixiong is sorry it wasn’t mockery it was a perfectly reasonable tantrum that was a long time coming now stop sulking your dick is very pretty let shixiong make it up to you~)

And at some point there will be a wild Bing-ge who appears to cause trouble with a mirror that’s intended to temporarily transform people into the form of their last life - he aims it at the native Bingbing to get him out of the way so he can steal the “nice” Shizun

It would have been Pom time for Bingbing but Mads-Jiu pushes him out of the way

And cue giant explosion of dark Qi as a bonus expansion pack of Madara’s 10-tail Jinchuriki time with powers-and-memories gets downloaded into Mads-Jiu

Mads-Jiu the “Heavenly Demon Demi God” drops several mountains worth of flaming meteor rock on the invaders and then goes on a giant flaming skeleton rampage against Bing-ge

... Bing-ge has changed his mind he doesn’t want this Shizun take him back and oh gods the shrieking

How does he shriek so loud? Doesn’t he need to breathe?

... ok so Shizun breathes fire that’s good to know

Whelps time to bravely run away

And then the amassed sects need to figure out how to calm down the rampaging hell beast

The youngest Qing Jing disciple is brought out and told to cry for Shizun

Actually-a-broody-hen!Mads-Jiu whips around and starts fussing over his baby student

Because baby why are you crying stop it tell Shizun who hurt you and he will BURN THEM TO ASH

The last bit I have an idea for involves Mads-Jiu getting yanked though dimensions because Edo Tensei where he instantly twigs to what is going on and pushes the “righteous cultivator” skin to maximum strength

He shoves all the baby ninja behind him and keeps barrier spamming the zombie army - because ew no stay away from the children resentful corpses

Zetsu is included in the zombie army shall not pass smack down

Zombie!Tobirama is appalled because wut? Wasn’t this supposed to be Madara’s zombie? What is happening?

And I dunno something where he “notices” the resentful energy surrounding Danzo because stealing the eyes of the people you murdered is bad karma

So Mads-Jiu does a spirit thing and the ghosts of the Uchiha rips Danzo apart while screaming about his guilt in full view of the entire Village

And then Mads-Jiu goes home because filial little Bingbing came to get him and he’s not enjoying upending the shinobi social order nope not at all whom exactly do you take him for?

... Yes he’s done and ready to go back to his spouses now he’s sure the ninja have all learned better than to raise living corpses now anyway

The end

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