#i have my fanfic on. 🤢 ao3

[typhra]

Well. A reminder that my carrd has where else I am and if you want my discord. It also exists. Social medias suck and places to share works suck so uh. I'll be sure to update my carrd soon and start working on my neocoties again

[wundrousarts]

Hi folks! It seems like people are discovering that there are people online who write some WEIRD! 👎 stuff for Nevermoor. Some tips and tricks for dealing with that:

Don't engage. Don't read the fics. Don't even comment to say how much you hate it.

Don't spread it around. It's gross as hell, I know! But being like "ew, guys, I found this gross fic" just means you're causing more people to seek out said gross fic, and that's just not great. If you don't want to see it, no one else wants to either.

If you can: block, mute, or filter. I don't really use any fanfic sites to know if these functionalities exist, but I'm sure people online have found ways. Edit: here's a way to do it on Ao3.

TL;DR: Ignore, Ignore, Ignore. 👍

(PS: Same thing goes for when people send weird inappropriate anon messages. Just delete them from your inbox and don't subject others to them.)

This is unfortunately something that's been present for years in the fandom, on both Ao3 and Wattpad. This is also why I essentially don't read Nevermoor fics unless they're for Mogtober, and even then I'm cautious. I have seen some weird stuff written about my favorite characters that I wish I could pluck from my brain and set on fire, or worse! But when I stumble across that stuff, I just quickly close the tab and pivot to something else to get my mind off of it.

We should not entertain these types of people in a fandom full of minors about a middle grade series, so: just don't engage with them, ignore them, filter them out, and maybe even drown them out with some fics of your own.

[starbeltconstellation]

Since you are a passionate jedi fan, I would be interested in your opinion on a thing I noticed on AO3. There is a fanon that is inspired by Ancient Greek scholars having had sex with their pupils. In the fics there is a special night in which the masters have to fuck their padawans because it is tradition. Sex and AO3, you ask? What's new, you ask? What is new is that the writers explicitely write in their notes that the institutionalized fucking of the padawans is their way to show how corrupt and morally bad the jedi are. But how is something that fanfic writers completely made up to get more readers (because sex sells) a critique of the jedi in canon? No matter what answer I come up with, it is weird. Are these fanfic writers fetishizing a law allowing teachers to fuck their students, feel bad for their own arousal and try to shrug it off by making themselves believe that they are just writing these sex scenes for a "good cause"? I mean, if they hated the jedi so much, why would they write about them? The MCU or DC would get them more readers, right? I simply can't come up with a satisfying answer to why this mental gymnastics exist. I know this is a very long ask, but please address it if it is of any interest to you as well!

Hi, anon! 👋💕✨

Sooooo deeply sorry for the long wait time. 😭😖💔 Things just got away from me, and I kept putting off my response because I wanted to make sure I had the time to give the nitty gritty of my thoughts on your ask.

And as a pro jedi fan and a SW fan in general… I just have to say… ew. 😭☹️🤢💔

And it’s not necessarily that I’m trying to SHAME people that write darker or more sexual stuff (even though there are some things that just genuinely baffle me why ANYONE would enjoy writing something so horrible, but then again, I’ve never been a fan of horror movies, sooo… 😂🤷‍♀️).

And look, I’m aware that fiction is separate from reality and not necessarily a show of a person’s morals (it’s FAKE, at the end of the day), but at the same TIME, I believe people on this app and just in fandom spaces in general sometimes purposely plug their ears and sing “lalalala” by pretending that how we interact with the world doesn’t shape our perception and psyche to SOME degree.

And this isn’t me saying that if someone writes something like “noncon” or “whump” that they’re going to go out and hurt anybody! That’s the EXTREME reaction that conservative panic tries to drum up by pretending that people have no self control and need to be shielded from “corruption 🙄” or something like that. But what I DO believe is that seeing stories (whether love stories or family stories in general) WILL affect how someone can come to view relationships. This is on a tier scale, obviously. Kids and teenagers will have a harder time grasping why “365 Days” is not a modern Beauty and the Beast movie. 😭🤦‍♀️ BUT… with ADULTS… it’s easier to separate fiction from reality… in a CONSCIOUS way. But for me, from a psychological standpoint, if a person grows up with a specific attraction to certain toxic love stories that are PRESENTED as healthy when they just aren’t—it’s POSSIBLE that they can unconsciously seek out someone who fits that mold. I don’t think this is the NORM—but it IS a possibility, and that’s why I think it’s so important to recognize yourself and your own wants and needs in the real world and ask yourself “Does this make me feel safe and happy? Or just obsessively DESIRED?” and other things such as that.

Anyway, I got a little off topic (which I often do 😭😅), but my POINT is my disgust isn’t necessarily about these writers’s choices on exploring such darker themes in their work if they truly want to—it’s THEIR fic, at the end of the day. But what DOES disgust me is (yes, dear anon, you guessed it! 🙃🙃) that apparently writers are USING this trope to create even MORE anti Jedi rhetoric when there is already SO much of it in the community in general (and that god awful ‘The Acolyte’ show only made the hatred and genocide apologia worse, even though I do acknowledge the show wasn’t given as much of a chance as Ahsoka and The Mandolrian shows were).

Just as The Acolyte had to INVENT an entire scenario where the “EMPATHETIC SPACE MONKS 😭🤦‍♀️” of the galaxy apparently cover up a massacre which DIRECTLY parallels Anakin Skywalker’s descent to the Dark Side—which makes NO goddamn sense that it’s truly LAUGHABLE—you have brought to me a fic trope scenario where the writer has apparently INVENTED something that was NEVER canon to show how “corrupt 🙄” the Jedi Order is—before they stand back and go “haha! 😌 See? SUCHHH horrible people.”, as if they didn’t just invent that scenario in THEIR own head to justify their bias against the Jedi and their way of life.

It’s very similar to the uncharitable views that certain parts of the SW fandom (specifically the Anidala and the radical Anakin fans) have towards the Jedi in regards to NONCANON info that we do NOT truly know (such as why Anakin never visited Shimi all that time), before just CHOOSING the most uncharitable and mean spirited view of the Jedi that they can, which is saying—“Well, the Jedi Order must have a strict policy on NEVER seeing your birth family again, or they’ll be kicked out! 🤪🤪”, when there is NOTHING in canon to ever give any indication of that. It’s literally fanon that has somehow all but become canon in the eyes of the fandom, and I haven’t the foggiest clue how it happened (yes I do. 🙄🫠 It’s because SW fans LIKE Anakin, so of COURSE they don’t want to admit he was in the wrong or that he could’ve taken things too personally or the wrong way—so they settle on, “Those mean Jedi must’ve bullied him and kept him from his mom! 😡🤪”🙄🤦‍♀️).

Fans will make something up out of thin air—literally twisting themselves into KNOTS to try and excuse Anakin’s choices while blaming everyone else to pretend it’s not his fault and he didn’t truly have a choice (COMPLETELY untrue)—while at the very same TIME, giving absolutely NONE of that courtesy to the Jedi Order themselves. The Jedi’s actions are nitpicked to DEATH. Everything they do—choosing to fight in the war to save lives instead of sitting on the sidelines to watch the galaxy burn, not worshiping the ground Anakin walked on to try and teach him humility and grace and respect, literally putting their LIVES on the line RIGHT BESIDE THE CLONES each day on the battlefield, Mace going to arrest Palpatine before realizing the man would never be convicted at a corrupt trial—NONE of it is ever enough.

They are 10,000 strong (NOT taking into consideration how some are younglings or retired Jedi), and yet they are judged with the sharpness of a knife that they cannot solve every damn trillions of problems in the galaxy.

They are a literal DROP in the ocean. It is LAUGHABLE to expect them to somehow be able to end slavery throughout the galaxy in the Outer Rim without the backing of the Republic’s help (which they definitely would NOT choose to help the Jedi, and even if somehow they DID, it would STILL be a long and tedious thing that would take DECADES to fully accomplish), and it is even MORE ludicrous to BLAME the JEDI FUCKING ORDER of all people for the Clones’s situation, like they could just stroll into the Senate building and wave their lightsabers around to suddenly give the clones their (deserved) rights, or to expect them to somehow—what? Kidnap all the clones (because a lot of clones would sadly NOT go willingly because of their brainwashing indoctrination that this is what they were ‘made for’) and run from fighting in the war? Where the hell do people expect them to GO? How do people expect the Jedi to be able to take CARE of all those people (INCLUDING their own) in such a situation without the Republic backing or the Temple walls?—be able to just magically give the clones rights or to just magically be able to say no to fighting in the war as if that would somehow do ANYTHING for the clones instead of just placing them under the rule of men like Tarkin.

The one thing I will concede is that (WHILE being in the war, because YES, despite what some people believe, it was UNAVOIDABLE. Palpatine definitely made sure of that) the Jedi probably needed to learn to get more into politics to control their image in the eyes of the public (ironic, considering how many people blame them for their own genocide by saying they were ‘too involved in politics 🙄’ when the TRUTH is that they did everything to AVOID being in the political sphere because they heavily disliked it). There is a bit of (gentle-hearted) naïveté here, because they all assume that the citizens of the galaxy will just SEE that the Jedi are trying to protect them. But people get selfish and greedy REAL fast when their lives become affected badly by things happening around them. And the more the war dragged on, the more citizens of the galaxy (disgustingly) latched onto Palpatine’s slowly growing propaganda that the Jedi were somehow the big bad villains of the war and not like—oh, I don’t know—the fucking SENATE. 😭🙄🤦‍♀️

My POINT is that—you’re RIGHT, anon. This fic trope you’ve brought up is (while HEAVILY ew in my eyes 😭🤢) just one part of a growing infection of the SW fandom where it’s becoming the “edgy” take to blame the Jedi (the VICTIMS) for their own genocide, instead of placing the blame at the politicians’s feet, where it belongs. Palpatine wasn’t able to gain this power ALONE. The Senate makes it EASY for him. Because they’re all out for themselves at the end of the day (YES, even Padmé, who would’ve taken Anakin’s tusken massacre to the grave if she’d had the chance), and even the ones that DO care about the bills they’re trying to push to help change things STILL are in such a position of privilege (ironic, considering fandom pretends the Jedi Order is ‘privileged’, when they are anything but and are more of a ‘model minority’ group struggling desperately to keep the soft power they have to at the very LEAST have a place at the Senate’s side to TRY and make them see reason sometimes) that they forget about the little people suffering underneath them (Padmé has to be REMINDED of this by one of her handmaidens at one point).

The point is that George Lucas intended the SENATE to be the corruption of the Prequels that brought about their own doom. Not the fucking JEDI. 😭🤦‍♀️ But somehow, SW fandom has rewritten their memories to somehow believe this to be true. But if they’d watch ANY George Lucas interview, they’d see this is not the case. And people are allowed to have different interpretations of stories at the end of the day—but what IS ridiculous is how certain anti Jedi fans SHAMELESSLY try to rewrite history by outright STATING that it WAS GL’s original intent to portray the Jedi as ‘corrupt 🙄’, which is just… SO far from accurate that it’s laughable.

But yeah, at the end of the day, the REAL ‘villain’ (besides the Sith) of the prequels is the SENATE, because THEY are the ones who should be doing their jobs, but who are INSTEAD lining their pockets or kissing up to the clueless citizens of the galaxy come election time, while apathetically expecting the Jedi Order to solve all the problems that the SENATE is too damn lazy and selfish to solve.

The one conclusion I can make is that if the Jedi HAD realized they’d need to play the game of politics to keep in the public’s good graces—then you bet your ASS they would have been on intergalactic interview after intergalactic interview subtly “hinting” at the clones’s lack of rights and plight to try and stir up public outcry—because THAT is how you get true change. By changing things from WITHIN the very public itself. Because THAT is the only thing that will make the Senate LISTEN—is if they’re at risk of losing votes later on down the line.

Anyway, I of course went on the longest of rants once again. Lol. 😂😅 But I hope the long wait time was worth this response! 😊❤️💕

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To any readers that stumble across this and are curious enough to check out my fic:

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[dukeofdelirium]

you're my fav kataang blogger so i need to give u a fanfic rec i've been OBSESSED with.

their user on tumblr is @quillthrillswriting i think and their ao3 is @/quillthrills but like,,,,, their kataang dynamics are PERFECT they have one abt teen aang and another one where aang is the good dad he should be and like..... its just so so good you need to read them and give ur review PLSSS <3 🫶

I actually read a few of their fics last night! I love the portrayal of kataang that they have, and I especially love any kataang being parents content. I also thought it was funny that they took the whole zvtara trope of Katara having to escape Aang (🤢) and then flipped it on its head bc yknow what? We as a ship fandom deserve it after all we deal with lmao.

I have yet to read the Teenage!Aang fic that’s multi chapter and I haven’t read their one shot titled I’m No Longer A Kid, but I will when I get the time! Maybe tonight 💛

There’s truly so many amazing kataang fics to be found on ao3 and fanfiction.net (that’s the site I wrote my first ever fanfics on and yes they WERE kataang fics). We have some truly amazing artists and writers for this pairing <3

If you’d like recs of my own for kataang, I read a couple last night in addition to the author’s you mentioned. Exchange of Wrath by ArmageddonGeneration was incredible (3 chapters) and a one shot From the Moon to the Ocean by the same author. I also recommend literally any kataang content from chocomd on ao3 and they have some zukaang fics too if you ship that. Highly rec Without Water, Midnight Meditations, and Drag You Down, all are kataang fics!

Hopefully I’ll have the time eventually to write a kataang fic myself! I haven’t gotten around to writing anything for them on my ao3 account, but one day I will 🫶🏻 only gotten to post my twilight fics on there and have tons of WIPs and working on original novel too so just gotta find the time to devote to kataang

[doraambrose]

saw ur batfam fanon takes - and question: can you even find fanfic that doesn’t have any of that?

i agree with 95% of ur post, but just on a personal level, I love a good dad bruce fic. bc i grew up reading comics and the good dad bruce panels were few and far between, I love fanon content of him fixing his relationship with his kids, it heals my inner child lol

anyways, back to my qs, do u have and strictly canon fic recs then?

Hello! This is my first ask ever so excuse my excitement lol. In terms of fics that are strictly Canon, I have not found one yet. There are some fics that have some of those elements, but theyre slight enough that it doesnt ruin the whole story. But to be fair, I haven't been reading a whole lot lately as I am very busy with work and school. I will admit that I do have some guilty pleasure fics that are definitely not Canon. @lightwing-s is writing a series called "baby steps" that I have been loving as a guilty pleasure. I'm also on this forum on the DC universe infinite website and a friend of mine who lives near my dad writes REALLY GOOD redhood stories and her dream is to write for him as a DC writer. That's invite only but maybe one day, I'll ask her if I can share some of her writing. I also dont read a whole lot of fics that don't center around Jason Todd. I'm also into sickfics and hurt fics, mental health, that kind of stuff (unfortunately thats where most of the bruce calling jason sweetheart comes from 🤢) There are some fics that I do like :

Pinstripedjackalope on AO3 has a couple good jason sickfics that show jason and Roy in a platonic friendship as well. The Curse of a Turkey Sandwich and Stick the Landing are really good

I just recently read this fic with jason and rose wilson that I kind of enjoyed, but I'll admit it's a little offbrand for Rose. It's also on AO3, it's Respite by Creatchure

There's a fic I have wanted to read but haven't gotten a chance yet called Nyx the destroyer from the shadows by killkid001

There's also this fic on AO3 that I loved a lot about Jason and Tyler and their first night together after jason adopted him. It was really great but I just can't find it anywhere now.

That's all off the top of my head because I have the memory of a goldfish but I'll post some fic recs as I find them :)

Thanks!

[flowerslut]

🕯️🥤 🔪 🍅

appa my beloved!!!!!

🕯️ on a scale from 1 to 10, how much do you enjoy editing? why is that?

although it’s inconvenient to the part of my brain that wants to Immediately Post Fic, I enjoy it for the most part!! sure it can be annoying but it’s more annoying to post something and then spot 6 grammar fuck ups and 2 typos.

soooo I guess I’d say “7”?? I’d rather just post and go, and stopping to actually edit can be annoying, but I do love The Fic Process so I enjoy it by default!

🥤 recommend an author or fanfic you love

listen. if anyone follows me for my twilight fic then that means they probably like jalice. and if they like jalice I’m assuming they’ve already made their way through the good shit. but in case they haven’t they should read everything that g, lexie, and m have written.

if they HAVE made their way through all of that stuff, and they’re looking for more twilight fic, I am here to disappoint them since I haven’t read that much twilight fic that I enjoy. (not YET!!!! again, the flavor of jalice fic that I prefer can be hard to come by) soooo here’s a link to all my ao3 bookmarks! feel free to browse any of my favorites (ngl they’re mainly griddlehark + some old fandoms) and feel free to ignore the bookmarked work skin resources lmfaooo

🔪 what's the weirdest topic you researched for a writing project?

eating habits and the daily routine of 18th century spanish missionaries (shoutout to esteban you insufferable demon). I did also have to do a lot of nauseating research about tendons and ligaments and overall joint anatomy 🤢

🍅 give yourself some constructive criticism on your own writing

me @ me: you don’t need to overexplain yourself girlie. if they can’t figure out what’s happening on their own then that’s on them.

no but I do repeat myself a lot when it comes to details/sentiments. there’s a lot of bad habits I’ve picked up over the years that I have to shake. I also love to over explain minute by minute second by second what any person is doing with their body. again, I just love to fill each pause and space will bullshit. so. getting out of that habit is taking lots of practice lmfaoooo

send me truth or dare asks!

[seriouslysam8]

Hey, did you find out a method to filter through mistagged fics? I was reading this fic that was tagged as Hinny although he was marry to Ginny he was shagging his own daughter 🤢. I didn’t get what was going on and I thought it was Ginny but nope it was Lily. There was no warning or incest tagging. 🔪 👀

I don’t understand the blatant mistagging that goes on lately. It’s on AO3. It’s on tumblr. People either over tag and will put Harry/Ginny even though it’s endgame Harry/Draco and had only past Harry/Ginny to what? Try to win people over with your ship? To get more exposure? Like don’t they understand that it only gets people angry with them and they get secretly put on a blacklist in readers’ heads? Or, likewise, they know they may not get a lot people to read their fic if they used warning tags so they purposely don’t tag things like what you described above. Again, it’s just to get more exposure for their fic and hope people like it once they’re forced to read something they don’t want to. I find this in very poor taste.

I try not to overtag but tag enough that the core elements of my story can be found by people who want to read it. I’m very careful with my warnings. Even with Legerdemain, which was probably my most trigger warning story, I placed extra trigger warnings at the top of certain chapters. I did have someone tell me I should have trigger warned something I didn’t (I can’t believe for the life of me what it was now) so mistakes can be made but they shouldn’t be BLATANTLY made.

I do not know how to solve this issue. It’s a big reason why I don’t read a lot of fanfic anymore. I’d spend too much time trying to find something I’d like. Now, I get my recs from tumblr or people will send me recs. I have a list of trusted authors I know I can read. So, I can’t help you fix the searching issue at all. I simply just gave up.

[unanswered-stars]

From the Writer's Question Game thingy :> 🍓🌵🧃🪐🍬🔪🥐🏜️☁️🌸🧩

Ho! I put so many lol. I warned you, I'm nosy xD.

Ahhh thank you so many I hope my answers are sufficient!

🍓 - I must credit @acourtofladydeath and her fic All Things End for bringing me to fanfiction in the first place. I read that fic multiple times before I was able to read anything else. This is not fanfiction it is life changing and that is simply a fact.

Quickly fell into the rabbit hole of Azris on ao3 and came across @the-moth-writes Heaven Help The Fool Who Falls in Love and I simply could not get it out of my head and had commented “oh it would be so fun if you …..” and it wasn’t till I was reading @futurehunt A Court of Shadows and Ash and I finally made an account so I could properly comment and interact and I was still stuck on the story idea I had, so I reached out to @the-moth-writes and asked if I could continue her story to which she graciously said yes.

Once I started writing I just couldn’t stop. I was always a big reader and writer growing up and was intending to major in English in college but I had a terrible professor when I was in a college class duel enrolled as a high school student and they absolutely tore my writing apart and I instead got a degree in Religious Studies and BSN. I have not written anything for fun until now and I am so sad that I did not start sooner but I am so happy to be writing again.

🌵 - so all of the playlists that I listen to are self made on my personal Spotify so I don’t want to share those but I will say my 4yo is obsessed with @chunkypossum playlist for Between Us. The amount of dance shows I have watched to this playlist at this point are innumerable.

🧃I was a antapartal/postpartum (pregnant/after you have your baby) nurse and aside from my children it is what I am truly most passionate about in life and I could talk all things pregnancy, birth, postpartum, and home birth for days 👀

🪐 1. Getting my joy back for writing

2. This is going to sound so silly but my kids have been so cool recently just learning so many new skills and just love watching them explore the world and become their own little person.

3. My sister will be back stateside in a few weeks and I am thrilled to have her living by me again!

🍬 - ahhh Rhys where to start with this guy. @jules-writes-stories honestly said it really well here. Half of the CoN gets killed immediately under Amarantha’s reign and then on his return to the Hewn City for the first time post occupation that is how he decided to approach it? Enough said. He’s been HL for at least 200years and I feel like he has nothing to show for it. That is not even touching on the infantalization and sexualization of Feyre. I could write paragraphs on this man but I shan’t waste my breath.

If you want to see me hot take on Majda look here

🔪 - fanfic: how large can a treehouse be while also being structurally sound. This then turned into a multiple day rabbit hole of looking through photos of the most magical treehouse in the world.

Nursing school pt patho paper: cockroach in vagina. I needed to know how many other times this happened and that I wasn’t the only one scarred by this. 🤢

🥐 - Brennan from Game Changer/Dimension 20 monologuing abut literally anything. Sauron but it’s Trump is probably my personal fav.

🏜️ - I talked about this is my previous two posts and this one is getting long 🙃

☁️ - sometimes I make up stories for my kids as bedtime and bring in a little realism and my oldest was asking me about wishing on stars and I said something along the line that sometimes the stars will answer you back and answer your wish and sometimes your wishes go unanswered. Not because one wish is better than another but sometime we just have to figure out our wishes on our own journey. We now have a little story about what happens to all the stars of unanswered wishes = Unanswered Stars

🌸 - I do not have any currently but we had many cats and dogs growing up. Truth be told I actually do not like pets. I know I know please don’t burn me. I’m allergic to dogs and cats, they both cause my chronic migraines to flare up. I also killed my two pet fish I owned growing up. Both accidentally. One because I over fed it and the other because we went on vacation and I forget to have someone feed it so it starved…

I know I’m the worst I’m sorry.

I would get an outside pet should my children ask.

🧩 - I answered this one here

Thank you so much for sending in these questions! I love answering all of these. If you want to join, the list of questions can be found here!

[bisexualbaker]

[Image: Tweet by Dani 🦋 ( @/ladyofthestorm ): "Do peole actually ship ____ 🤢" yes. The answer is yes. Every ship you can think of has been shipped, and there's nothing you can do about it. The sooner you stop worrying about what other people ship and concentrate on stuff you like, the happier you'll be. End ID.]

Capslock translation: It's ten fanfics on AO3 for a fandom that not even one-seventh of the population of planet Earth knows exists. It isn't "normalizing" anything, Karen. Stop clutching your pearls before you choke yourself. End translation.

I will also add that plenty of people have, do, and will write certain things just for the challenge of seeing if they can make it work. One of my favorite fics ever features a crossover ship of Alphonse Elric from FMA and Vivi from FFIX. I copied it to a document and have it saved on my laptop and two separate portable hard drives, and I'm reasonably sure there's a printed copy floating around my house somewhere, and it only exists because one author said to another, "Hey, do you think you could make this ship work?"

[ellieslittlewh0re]

What annoys me the most about people complaining & getting triggered over writers fanfics on this app is the fact that they could literally read the summary’s and warnings then scroll if they don’t like the sound of it, warning’s are put there for a reason why don’t they use them? They’d be fighting us if they weren’t there🤦🏼‍♀️ there’s also a sea of other fics on this platform to choose from, i have encountered 1s I’m like meh with and scrolling to the next without picking on the writer is SO easy. Not only that but if they are going to nit pick on the most teeny tiny and innocent word choices maybe they should just write their own, writers spend time creating fics for us with nothing given in return they don’t owe anyone anything and tbh some people are straight up ungrateful on this app…🤔 (p.s I don’t see anyone doing anything about the gross amount of joellie fics ruining the tlou tags on ao3, and those are real actual incest fics with a MINOR Ellie🤢🤢🤢)

FACTS!!! Like it’s really not hard to read tags and warnings and use your adult brain to determine if you want to read it or scroll on…. Like I came across a piss kink fic and I’m like” hmm 🤔 I don’t like it I like it or not but I’ll give this a try” turns out it wasn’t my thing…IT DOESN’T MAKE IT OKAY TO TELL THE WRITER TO OFF THEMSELVES 😭😭 like that what kinda sucks about tumblr bc it can be completely anonymous and that can be dangerous

Plus Don’t even get me started on the joellie bs it’s so fucking disgusting and NOTHING is done about it… god forbid someone writes step sis porn 😭

[reileinaxiu]

How I became Anti Jiang Cheng/Wanyin and Anti Jiang in General

Fair warning/s:

Dramatic story sharing. MDZS meta that blur with some fanon pet peeves. Jiang family bashing (yup includes YZY, JWY, JFM, and even JYL). Lengthy story/experience sharing. Some cursing/foul language, okay a lot of cursing that I censored might have missed just in case. Some ranting I guess. And maybe some leaps in logic. Chaotic writing.

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So long story short:

I've read a fic with the JC bashing tag, enjoyed it and browsed and read more content about it and I was thoroughly anti JC by the end of it all.

An example is

"All will be well when the day is done" by abCEE. If you haven't read it I recommend it if the Lan clan still hasn't been ruined in your eyes.

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Long story not so short:

Okay as you all might know or not know, I was introduced to the MXTX fandom through a fanfic crossover and entered through the donghua.

When I watched the donghua I was sort of indifferent to the Jiang family as a whole. I thought YZY was just this super stern drill sergeant type of woman. Maybe unfair to WWX because of her own bias towards his heritage. JFM was this timid person in front of his wife who doesn't want to get into conflicts. JWY was this broken grieving person after the Lotus Pier Massacre. And JYL was this mother/sister role model that had an unfortunate end.

I did not like them(probably never will at this point), I did not hate them (I should have hated them more), thought they were developmental to WWX as a character (still true but for a completely different reasons). But that was it, they were characters that had fulfilled a role.

Oh what a foolish uninformed lamb 🐑 I was back then.🥲 The donghua did not even begin to skim the surface of it all. Or maybe it did in an artistic license type of view and it was the kind people on the internet who analyzed the story and the original work that just pointed out to me what was obvious now. 🤔

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Thank yous especially to: @flautistsandpeonies ,

@jiaoji2 , @withthewindinherfootsteps , @ladypfenix, @ninjakk and many more that I might have missed or yet to discover. Your mxtx content are entertaining and enlightening.

And thank yous to your works on AO3: Hauntcats, Karmiya, FlautistsandPeonies, Vrischika, miixz, glitteringmoonlight, justdoityoufucker and many many more great writers out there.

I definitely 😁 recommend their works.

Their works and posts have opened my eyes. 👀 And many others who I might have missed.

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This was how knowing more both ruined and saved my love for MDZS.

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It started when I began delving for fanfic on ao3, after finishing the donghua. Naturally, I began with the fics with the most Kudos, so I set my filters with the most words or the most Kudos along with the WangXian tags (Lan Wangji/Wei Wuxian).

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Lo and behold one of the top fics at that time was a Jiang Wanyin centric time travel fic that I shall not name but bury deep within my reading history/bookmarks. I do not want to horrify you guys too much who are anti JC like me but the short synopsis was JWY travels back in time and fully supported WWX 🤢 throughout the Sunshot Campaign doing all the the things JGY pointed out in the Guanyin Temple incident getting a happy ever after of everyone lives(even JGY 😰) and noone dies(except mostly the Wen Sect not the Dafans) and JWY marries WQ 🤮.

Yes. I can't believe myself to have thought that was actually good. I got ulcers just thinking about it 🤢. What's worse 😱 is that I've read through several similar fics with JWY as a good brother, anger misunderstood trope and thought nothing of it at the time.

One of the worse of the worst were my ignorance when reading fics with side JWY/LXC tag.☣️🤮 If I knew I would have never touched any of these fics. But I absorbed the MDZS content through various media sources so my understanding was obscured at best and completely reconceptualized at worst. I hope my realization wasn't too late that I ended up reading about a homophobe in a same-sex relationship.

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My poor ignorant self,😔 I forgive you for ever thinking any of those were acceptable homage to the masterpiece that is MDZS. Alas those fics in my read history will be part of a dark past that I might visit some day again only to treat it as the radioactive ☢️ toxic waste it truly should be handled as.

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Don't get me wrong. It doesn't make any of those God awful plot devices better but at least those fics were still very entertaining and I appreciate all the work and effort the author had put in to writing them despite their uh...😦 misconstrued outlook on the actual canon personalities of the characters. Some of those fics were really long and well-written at least. So I find it a shame their great writing skills have gone in this direction.

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Maybe 🤔 if I read those as extremely, extremely OOC then I guess they could be slightly acceptable. But till today there are plenty similar fic being written out there, and published everyday. I must sometimes cope by completely erasing JWY or any OOC Jiang from my mind whilst reading these types of mistagged fics. OOC JC tag should really be common so I can filter them out of my searches. I will always be grateful for ao3's sort and filter system.

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Another, when exploring the fandom at first was that I was intrigued, amused and even confused 🤔 by all the controversy. On youtube, there were content creators fawning over JWY. So hey, I thought he seemed like a decently popular character.

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Then someone pointed some things out to me and I was like " OMG 😱 What sort of deranged sick scum is this person and why the f*** out of all the villains that got their karma he still lives with a position of power".

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Then I realized again after reading more mdzs meta, "Almost everyone in the Cultivation World except WangXian, the juniors(of every sect), WN, WQ, LQY and maybe NHS at some point are all corrupt assholes that deserve some sort of karma still lives with positions of power" 😱😱😱

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So yeah. One of my problems when identifying good not OOC fanfics was because tags like the good sibling jc, yunmengbros reconciliation, etc.😖 was normalized by a lot of writers that other writers started referencing OOC fanfics as the true personality of those characters. That's why a newbie like me entering the fandom just binge read anything that was popular at the time and thought that it actually somehow corresponds to the original work. I am sometimes tempted to unsubscribe from certain MXTX content creators because they are JC stans. But I am conflicted cause they make really good WangXian content as well 😰.

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For example:

Like when writers completely disregarding WWX's most important character traits to fit him into an OOC template @withthewindinherfootsteps discusses this very soundly and points out WWX's core philosophy. Writers have gone to create completely new characters and stamped them with the same name. They have lots of reblogs and discussion with this particular post

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Maybe it's because I haven't read the entirety of the original work yet (I've only watched the donghua, the cql, followed the manhua, and skipping to favorite scene in thenovel translations) but further evidence pointed out by readers of the original work had thoroughly converted me. I do not commend any of the Jiang Family's treatment of WWX.

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Feel free to skip to the rabbits if you prefer not to read some of these heavy criticisms about the Jiang Family and some cursing. Oh and maybe a bit of conspiracy theory meta.

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Let's begin with this literal raging b*tch, YZY.

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YZY was a child abuser, a hypocrite, and liar.

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"What do you mean what do we do?! Can't you see yet? They came here prepared. Today's fight couldn't have been avoided. Soon afterward there'll be herds of those Wen-dog arriving. Leave first!"

"Shut your mouth! It's all because of you little...!"

-Exiled Rebel Scans Chapter Poisons (3)

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These lines had been itching at me from the very beginning so... This was the Lotus Pier Massacre. A lot of others (particularly those who stan her) might think it was a sad heroic sacrificing moment as a mother that made a lot of people misconstrue YZY's true nature. She was neither self-sacrificing nor a mother.

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She knew. She logically knew that the Wens were prepared and the fight couldn't have been avoided yet she still had the absolute gall to blame WWX of all the people present just because she can and just because she saw him beneath her. After punishing WWX herself as an act of 🤬 subservience to the Wen Clan she couldn't admit it that she herself was the one that escalated the entire situation to the Wen's advantage when WLJ taunted her about the supervisory office. She made everyone including the children to fight in that bloodbath just so her pride as a lady of a great sect remain unquestioned only saving her child and asking the disciple she abused mentally, emotionally and physically to give his life for JWY's sake. And look where it got her. If you ask me now, I'd say she totally deserved that humiliating death and WN should have left her and JFM's body to rot compared to my tragic first impressions.

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JFM is as much as an abuser as YZY was. He was an abuser through neglect, and some form of exploitation. A lot of context clues lead to YZY regularly punishing WWX excessively. It's never really mentioned that JFM stopped any of these especially since it is most likely those punishments were handed indiscriminately without just cause other than YZY's hate for WWX.

Shown in the Lotus Pod Extra where it's only WWX who gets punished despite every other disciple doing the same thing. Punished with a whip a that!😨 And that was just an Everyday probably casual occurence in the summer.

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The exploitation I have less evidence on that but from what I can understand (or don't) is that a disciple of a sect is more or less an employee and that they at least have some sort of regular stipend besides the facilities, housing and education given to them, otherwise why bother to become a cultivator of a sect when your financially challenged. I'm sure there's at least a few disciples who would send money back to their families because a cultivator's job has some monetary benefits that attracted them to Cultivation sects.

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(Ps. Someone argue the flaws in my logic or support it with further evidence that you can find, I'd be grateful)

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This isn't the case for WWX though. From the novel it was said that WWX explored the markets in Yunmeng and took whatever he pleased because the locals knew to send the bill to Lotus Pier and maybe he got an allowance that only equates to pocket money. It could be seen that he was well taken care of at least financially.

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But from my point view its an indirect form of exploitation. This could be seen as WWX not having his own money to spend for himself making him monetarily dependant on the Jiangs generosity (which was barely existent). It made WWX all the more differentiated from the other disciples who were compensated for their rendered services. Especially since he was made the head disciple at such a young age he should have gotten a comparatively larger paycheck(ancient china payrolls) maybe even equal to the senior disciples because he takes on a teaching job.

When WWX was in the Burial Mounds with the Wens I don't think he had his own assets to claim and fall back on when JWY removed him from the sect. He was one of the key figures to victory in the Sunshot Campaign don't tell me he wasn't properly compensated for his contributions? If someone out there thinks that he gave his spoils of war to the Sect, then f*** the Jiang Clan, I call fraud and exploitation.

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That's right folks! Lotus Pier was equivalent to a Japanese Black Company! Modern laws, on child labor and treatment addendums aside, at least in regards to WWX that is. Not only was WWX put to work in abhor conditions (abused; verbally and physically) he was also barely compensated, if not at all, for his services. YZY didn't make it any better siting unreasonable excuses of immeasurable debt that WWX took to heart. JWY also follows her mother's footsteps even when she died he also imposed this debt on WWX even when WWX already went above and beyond what stipulates on what a head disciple or even regular disciples owe to their sect. I could really care less how JFM didn't want to upset his wife or some other excuse, he is Sect Leader! He couldn't have not known what was going on. This has got to be some form of exploitation. 😡

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I should write a separate post for all the things messed up about JWY. But to sum it up he expected WWX to abandon his moral code to pander to his sect leader position and Sect's reputation and leave to the Cultivation World's bloodlusts what was essentially a village full of civilians, children or weakened cultivators. He blamed WWX for JYL's death when he clearly witnessed what actually happened, it wasn't WWX who landed the killing blow(WWX even killed that stupid attacker the moment that happened, JWY saw that as well). He went on torturing to death anyone who slightly resembled WWX or was suspected of practicing unorthodox cultivation (keywords on slightly resembled and suspected never proven or justified) for years! Also hellbent on torturing and killing WWX in his second life by using his fears and guilt and that d*mn whip he inherited from his b**** of a mother. And he is an overall bitter and unpleasant character to be in the presence of. I could keep going on and on because there's a whole lot more and there is not enough words to describe how much of a terrible person he was by the end of the book.

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Lastly, there is JYL. 🤨She wasn't very significant as the person WWX made her out to be. She wasn't a bad person but she also didn't make any strides to be better or do good. She always tried to make compromises but it was usually for the sake of others especially JWY and at the cost of WWX because she viewed him as being capable of carrying any burdens with a smile and not as a person that struggles or gets hurt by superficial or personal remarks. A peacemaker, timid like her father, avoiding conflicts instead of actually solving them. She claimed WWX a brother during the Phoenix Mountain Hunt and demanded an apology in the name of her sect but that all crumbled like a sandcastle on the beach and forgotten as dust in the wind when JZX confessed publicly and she secluded herself in her happy little married domestic life.😤 Either she was just an oblivious fool just like her husband and would have caused WWX's death by asking him to stand down when he was clearly being attacked or she really believed everything would go well if everyone calmed down or something. Or she was just incredibly gullible to the point of trusting her marital sect that repeatedly put down WWX. She is like LXC in this regard, and I have a lot of negatives and barely-there positives about him as well.

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What frustrates me in fanfics with her in it is that she acts like both her marital sect or natal sect could never be in the wrong and that it should be WWX who should adjust is behavior when they were literally trying to kill him.

Is it appropriate to rant about other fics that pissed me off on tumblr? I won't cause it feels rude on some level.

Also I hate the line she said about WWX being born with a smiling face. That's like putting unrealistic expectations on WWX's head. Just because he can bare a lot of things with a smile doesn't mean he cannot get hurt? Newsflash putting up a smiling front is just one way WWX protected himself emotionally from all the rumors and vitriol from YZY. I know I'm being overly harsh but I can't help but feel infuriated. WWX is a strong person for putting up with the Jiang's bull****, horse****, dog**** whatever **** I can think of under the sun and still manages to be an inherently good person but that doesn't really justify everything that was done to him.

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@righteousinadversity sums it up pretty well WWX's sufferings in life and a good chunk of that list is because of the Jiangs or could be traced back to the Jiangs.

If these realizations weren't enough to get me to go anti Jiang Family, I'd be wondering where my common sense went. I became extra wary of those fics tags with something like Good parent YZY & JFM🤬, Good sibling JC 🤮, Yunmengbros feels🙄, and a surprisingly eye watering amount of word vomit. 🤢

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This doesn't mean I condemn all the fics out there that don't adhere to canon personalities even the ones I've already read. If the ficwriter was reasonable enough in writing a life altering event or tagging that the characters are going to act OOC. Then sure I might read a modern AU where JC is a reasonably less asshole of an adopted brother. Or an AU where the JWY and JYL try to makeup for their parents wrongs etc. I could probably stomach it with minimum nausea. Still doesn't mean I have to like it, I am just a poor deprived soul that seeks to consume as much mdzs media in my free time.😔

Although Post-canon fics where WWX or LWJ get along with JWY, 😑 yeah I'm drawing the lines where lines need to be drawn. I might make the time to delete a lot of bookmarks from my archives.

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The only thing that saved my love for MDZS was WangXian and that speaks for itself because there's a lots of scummy characters (scummy as irl people, they were perfectly fine characters that drove the plot) and WangXian happens to overturn all those flaws because they are the exact opposite to such toxic relationships and toxic people. Plus just because I bash the Jiang Family so much doesn't mean I should stan WWX for the novelty of getting behind the hero or protecting a victim.

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It's because WWX is genuinely a good person that I will stan him with all my squishy beating heart🫀!

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He sees injustice and seeks to correct it. He had literal life costing wrongs done to him and he does not seek further resentment . He knows not to forgive and not to forget but also knows when to let go. And LWJ learned a lot from WWX and he became his moral compass. God 🤩 they are just so good together, good for each other, and good for everyone.🥲

May they forever ♾️❤️ be a happy couple.🥰

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The rest of the trashy cultivators of the Cultivation World can get eaten by the Xuanwu for all I care. 🙄#turtlefood

I might get started about how I came to dislike the Lans in general or wished fiery deaths for most of Cultivation World. But that's for another time.

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Is it hypocritic of me to continue reading these awful OOC Jiang fics? Maybe a little. 😐

Does it take me away from potentially great reads?

On my sane days I'd avoid them like WWX avoids dogs. If I'm feeling curious or just really hoping to find something fresh to read, I'd suck it up and pretend the poorly characterized Jiangs are florid mouthpieces used by the author that I can probably forget and ignore.😖

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I think I have the same problem with Postcanon fics where WWX gets along with his in-laws. I read them ignorant of how the original work actually ended. Now I despair at how awful my reading history looks and I became very critical of the type of fanfics I presently enjoy.

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Taking a page out of @FlautistandPeonies

Jiang family stans don't shit my post. I have literally tagged this anti-everything I can think of the first few lines were literally in big font titled "How I became anti JC"

Fellow mdzs meta readers come at me with gentle criticisms or discussions or comments (emphasis on gentle please 🥺, I'm a sensitive soul that easily loses confidence)

I got the courage to post this after reading a fic with YZY being her petty bitchy self. It was gloriously infuriating that I console myself with the WangXian ending. I might recommend that fic after it's gotten more chapters out (I don't want anyone getting conniptions from the cliffhanger) along with other anti Jiang Family fics.

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Are there any EngIta AUs you have? I think you had one from a fanfic you wrote as i recall but I don't think you ever explained any. I'm honestly interested to hear about them

While I have a ton of story ideas, I only have 3 “developed” AUs, two of which I have fanfics for but haven’t added to in a while.

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The first one is a human AU set at an American high school. The two of them are juniors. Feliciano does theatre & Arthur does track but in this story in Arthur decides one spring to join theatre in a tech position. I wrote the whole story here on Ao3, and my writing is kind of laughable but that’s what makes it fun. Past that story, I have previous ideas about when they met & started dating (it was because of yearbook) and how all of their other relationships play into the world building. I had another fic planned for their prom… but we’ll see if that ever happens lol.

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My second AU is the one i drew the fanart for on here. The story of this one is set in a made up, seaside city in England. This story follows Feliciano who is a young adult working at an aquarium with his cousin (Herakles) and his cousin’s boyfriend (Kiku). one night he meets Arthur who is busking at a pier & they become acquainted.

In this world, Feliciano’s nonno owns a lighthouse in the town, and the main drama of the story is centered around which vargas boy is going to inherit it. along with this, feliciano is continuously haunted by a past relationship, especially as he finds himself catching feelings for Arthur when they happen to run into one another again few months later. he learns that Arthur is a nurse but has an extensive background in music and enjoys playing in band composed of his coworkers and some friends. the story basically follows them along a year, getting to know one another and is full of taste-related descriptions about things that have nothing to do with food, seaside fun, family drama, other characters being around because i do that too much & a LOT of flashbacks. so anyway, i have one chapter posted to Ao3 but the rest of the chapters I’ve written are out of order/incomplete.

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The 3rd AU was actually the first one i had ever thought up for them. It’s another human AU like the others- but this story is Arthur-centric. It follows Arthur when he decides to take a gap year after finishing school & travels overseas to a small, made up, seaside town (i love seaside towns, okay?) in Massachusetts to help his grandad with work. His grandad runs a used book and record store and Arthur spends his days working there, slowly getting to know the odd people also running shops along the block. Across the road is a pizza parlour, recently opened by some italian immigrants. This is mainly a “coming of age” 🤢 story- as Arthur realizes he might be falling for the pizza delivery boy who likes to stop in to buy records. i haven’t written anything for this story but it’s very dear to my heart. some might remember the art i drew for this one when i had an insta!

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I've noticed something in the fanfic part of the fandom.

Generally, when Wei Wuxian is empowered (emperor, god, crime boss, etc...) Jiang Cheng isn't close to him at all, not as a "brother" (🤢), not as a friend, and (god forbid) not as a right hand man (lol this would never happen and I wish it never will, i think if jc was made to be wwx right hand man it would be like su shit being lwj's and whatever way you look it would be betrayal betrayal "he said to do this..." but he actually said to do the opposite)

Honestly? Love that for Wei Ying. A life away from any Jiang.

And while I'm talking about it, I can't filter them (the jiangs)(and I try, ok. I try really hard to get rid of them in every filter there is in ao3, and they still appear)! Every time I'm reading a fic that apparently doesn't have them they suddenly appear out of nowhere (and ruin it for me), and it's starting to piss me off.

Like even if it's just "my shijie made this soup for me yadda yadda" while Yanli herself never appears, just the mention of her or "my brother jc" (🤢🤢🤢) needs to be addressed on the tags. I know it's too much and just a little mention doesn't necessarily calls for a tag, but still!

I'm tired of the Jiangs.

I mean if a fic had jc as WWX's right hand man that would alter a very important dynamic in the story. jc is in a position of power and privilege and he expects that to mean certain things for himself and his relationship with Wei Wuxian. He expects to be superior to WWX, not only socially but in terms of abilities and recognition, and he constantly chafes against his perception that WWX is "taking" something he sees as his birthright. Even though WWX is not taking anything from him, he simply is better.

"Wei WuXian, “Isn’t Jin GuangYao here now? Jin GuangYao seems so much better than him.”

Jiang Cheng finished wiping his sword. After he scrutinized it for a while, he finally put Sandu back into its sheath, “So what, if he’s better? No matter how much better he is, no matter how clever, he could only be a servant who greets the guests. That’s all there is to his life. He can’t compare with Jin ZiXuan.” (71)

"Jiang Cheng replied, “How much has my family given for you? I’m his son. I’m the heir of the Yunmeng Jiang Sect. But all those years, I was never enough next to you." (102)

The Jiangs name dropped into everything are one of the main reasons I stopped reading fics. YanLi's soup solution is bordering on the ridiculous in the story itself, let alone when it's constantly mentioned in fic.

"I try, ok. I try really hard to get rid of them in every filter there is in ao3, and they still appear"- I understand. This fandom is just shit at tagging. They're more concerned with canon portrayal not showing up in the tags bc it's "mean" to their fav than actually accurately tagging what's in a fic/meta/piece of art etc.

[nightswithkookmin]

OPINIONS ARE LIKE NOSES AND NAMES

First of all thank you for bringing this person to my attention. I had to block them immediately because they came for me unprovoked in the comments.

Also her hypocrisy is killing me.

She hates shipping Jikook because it's 🤢 to ship them and she says my posts are salacious yet somehow she enjoys reaching into the recesses of her lesbian brain to imagine Jungkook deep throating Jimin late at night and she vomits all that on a page when Jikook have not in any way consented to be consumed in that invasive degrading way at all. (Choice words used deliberately)

Her tags

No Archive Warnings Apply

Jeon Jungkook/Park Jimin Jeon Jungkook Park Jimin (BTS) Top Park Jimin (BTS) Bottom Jeon Jungkook Spooning Morning Sex Kissing Making Out Love Bites Blow Jobs Oral Sex Deepthroating Choking Anal Fingering Anal Sex Multiple Sex Positions Slapping Hand Jobs Intercrural Sex Biting Nipple Play Hair-pulling Orgasm Delay/Denial Thighs Jeon Jungkook's Thighs Massage Tattoos Sweat Lube Dirty Talk Domestic Boyfriends Domestic Fluff Domestic Plot What Plot/Porn Without Plot Fluff and Smut Smut Fluff Humor Muscles Muscular Jeon Jungkook Bottom Jeon Jungkook/Top Park Jimin jikook - Freeform kookmin Canon Compliant

Summary

Jimin and Jeongguk have morning sex.

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It doesn't get more salacious than this and KOOKMIN IS A SHIP- literally.

People like her go about condemning shippers but feel no qualms about creating sexual content with real life people for public consumption against Jikook's will. Ain't yuh dehumanizing them too ma'am? Is Jikook consenting to this? If jikook wanted to be consumed in that way I'm pretty sure they would have started an only fans together by now and they would get more views than your crappy A03 fictions. Climb off that high horse before Jk and I punch you off it.

If shipping is bad writing fanfic is bad, and censoring people is bad EVERY THING IS BAD. BAD BAD BAD.

Tsk tsk just leave me alone ah beg yuh.

Do you and lemme do me.

Why can't you just enjoy the things you enjoy and leave people to enjoy what they enjoy too? You can't impose your morals on others when you yourself have such flexible moral values. Must be a troll. Must be.

And yea I'm vulgar and I use vulgar language and feel no qualms whatsoever screaming Jikook fucking out here- SO WHAT?

You shy to say they fuxking? You'd rather turn a page and describe in what ways they fuxk? Does that help you sleep at night miss pinocchiostress? Do you need a clap?

Since she enjoys running background checks on people here's a few background on her

https://userjiminie.tumblr.com/post/653355684215357440/hello-i-am-wondering-if-youve-ever-gotten

Basically her begging people to read her gay fanfics- which, no shame in that. A girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do.

But like who do she think is reading her gay fanfics? Me? Lololol.

It's those same shippers and cishets she's calling fetishists.

Like if you don't want people to fetishize Jikook don't create content that feeds those fetishes- that's when I'll take you seriously.

Her profile says no minors allowed... how about a no minors and no hets allowed so at least we know you are creating gay content to be consumed by mature gay people who don't ship Jikook but like to read about them spitting on eachother's dicks? Isn't that creepy forcing people you don't know and who you don't think are in a relationship to perform sexual acts in books for your entertainment?

You don't need me to point out too that majority of people who consume fanfic in general are shippers too because those stories they consume centers their ships. So basically she hates shippers, hates hets but creates gay content for them... alright then.

At first when I read her post I thought it was hilarious and relatable but sis lost me at the shade and personal attacks in the comments. Like do you and lemme do me. But if we have to fight I got claws and I won't hesitate to scratch a bitch up in here and take this ship down with me.

And what is this? Really hope it's a joke. How is this not creepy behavior. Nonshippers are equally weird my guy. Gays are weird straights are weird. We all weird.

Y'all out here writing Jungkook YN fanfics with him coercing women to wear vibrating panties and y'all have the nerves to call shippers weird.

Don't get me started on the hoefication of Jimin in yall's fanfics?? Worse than Tuktukkers.

So how about nnnnaaaaeeeoowwww???

I will ship whomever I wanna ship.

Your bigotry does not stop their interactions from being cute nor stops me from believing they are real. And if I can think it I can say it because my freedom of speech has been bought and paid for by the blood of my ancestors. Be gone SILENCER!

But on a more serious note, about this fetishization thingy... sis has a point ish.

As someone who's lost a friend because she refused to kiss a stranger for the benefit of the strangers straight male friends and someone who watches on helplessly while my woman gets hit on by her male friends even though they know we are together, someone who gets my boundaries disrespected by men and women and suffer homophobia at the hands of straight 'friends' who think it's their place to out me to men who show interests in me at bars and in clubs or even at church. Who claim they are allies but don't think being gay is morally right and oversexualize everything I say and do with them.

Oh nice bra- OMG is that like your kink?

No stupid I just think you have a nice bra and I want one.

Pink nail publish! I like this shade- ooh does it turn you on when I wear pink? *perv face.

Sure if you're my girlfriend but since you're not how about I just think pink is girly and nice and since I'm a girl too I want to wear the same shade sometime.

Conversations like these is tiresome and makes me feel every day that I have to fight for the right to be a girl in girl spaces.

I feel these people are only fixated on the 'kinky' aspect of my identity ones I tell them and refuse to see me as anything but that. That to me is fetishizing behavior.

But there are those who are genuinely curious about my life my story my health what offends me, what don't, my thoughts etc and they will ask me these things and I feel connected to them especially when they admit openly they are guilty of certain things I've complained about and see that as a way to educate themselves and know me better.

If the point of your fascination with a queer person is to understand them to build stronger connections with them I don't think that's fetishizing but that's just my opinion.

Then there are those who really don't care but only use you as gay encyclopedia. They wanna ask if they can say this or that but not because they want that information to improve on their communications with you or even learn something about themselves and their own sexuality. They just want to use that Information to prove a point when chatting with other people and seem edgy.

That too is fetishizing to me if you are not taking genuine interest in me to know me and understand me.

I have friends who wanna know about vaginal hygiene and compare sex with men and women and I talk to them because I get to ask them certain things about sex with men too. Just girl talks basically and I enjoy those.

One friend was so curious she wanted to watch me and my girlfriend fuck. I was open to it because I know she wasn't having great sex with her man and I'm a Libra so I can get a bit exhibitionist ish sometimes. Unfortunately my girlfriend said no because she said the girl could be bisexual and she didn't want me trying things with her behind her back. I respected her opinion but still share sex stories with this friend.

However if a Male friend had asked that of me I'd puke my gut out because I know he isn't curious about lesbian sex but he just wants me and my gf to entertain him and pleasure him. We are not sex objects and that's fetishizing.

Other instances:

Don't come to the room I'm naked and you're gay but some how when I'm in the room and naked they'd just be there staring and- you really don't strike me as gay. Damn your tits are firm. Is it because you're gay? Your girlfriend don't like to touch them or what?

Also, I find some people never stand up for you when it comes down to it and they will put their needs above yours in a space where you both occupy and yet at night these same people will log on to the internet and watch lesbian porn and masturbate.

They treat gay people as tools to arouse or release their sexual tensions and don't care about gay people outside of this. They don't care if there are laws that marginalize you. They don't care if you feel violated by their actions. They don't care.

So frankly I'm a bit sensitive about this whole cishet and gay fetishizing debacle.

I feel disgusted by such people and very much wish they stayed out of gay people business and just leave us alone.

I hate when the straight men do this and I hate when the women do this.

Those are the ones who scream Jikook real but will turn around and say respect their culture because skinship is a very normal part of it when in reality gay men in South Korea get lynched when they as much as hold hands and homophobia is very much prevalent within their culture.

Mentalities like these assault my brain. That's what to me being fetishized is. An assault on our brains.

I had this conversation with a fellow queer joker recently on Twitter and I explained to her how uncomfortable I felt with homophobic straight people in gay spaces because of the trauma I carry with me.

They advocate for accepting cishets in queer spaces and educating them on what is and what isn't fetishizing behavior.

One thing I would say is, queer people are not a monolith. What may be fetishizing to one person may not be fetishizing to another. And some are 'kinky' and love to be 'fetishized'

We come in all colors of the rainbow.

But I think one thing we all want is to be treated as humans, with respect and kindness. I think that should be the base and then take everyone else on an individual basis. What works with one gay person might not work with another.

If you don't then you are just stereotyping us.

If she thinks Cishets fetishize Jikook she can point out the fetishizing behavior and educate them or even do that through her writings and her fanfics.

I'm tied of the hating and fighting and toxicity in the fandom. It's draining.

I don't know man.

I'm not real life friends with any cishet out here and so I can't tell if they are being homophobic towards real life queer people in their daily life while screaming Jikook gay out here because then that would be fetishizing.

If you ship Jikook, love their bond but it makes you puke if there's a chance they are real that's fetishizing.

If you ship Jikook but ignore the possible hardships they face as queer men that's fetishizing.

If you are a Jikook fan but are homophobic that's fetishizing.

If you are fascinated by Jikook being a gay ship but don't really care about the wellbeing of gays at all that's fetishizing.

I don't think shipping two men or women automatically means you are fetishizing them. That's just silly.

This is a dense topic and I'd be writing for days to unpack it so let me end it here and I hope you get something from it.

Leave OP to her vices. To each their own.

JIKOOK GAY FOR LIFE. CRY BITCH

GOLDY

[sofipitch]

Why is there a Lestat/Claudia fanfic on ao3? 🤢

There is something wrong with them 😔

Unfortunately I think Claudia/her dads is kind of common or at least known of in the older fandom, it seems to have thankfully petered out

My friend showed me this book that is soon to be published which is based on Louis/Claudia. I think we need to kill the book industry with fire for letting ppl blatantly advertise their books as thinly veiled fic

[dantelionwishes]

imaginary knha fandom masterpost for my big four....................

from @the-moon18

ok my mind is blank rn of out pure fear you jist caused to every single one of us but don't think your teachers are going to be spared from shit like deku////might or deku////zawa or sato's quirk being used in a lot of smut fanfics

GOODBYE IM LOOKING AWAY FROM THE TEACHER/STUDENT FICS dude fr 100% can see people using sato's quirk as a whole ass ao3 tag in itself like oh you wanna see a character get lewded? [slaps sato's tag] this thing can contain so much explicit fics on ao3 and art on rule 34 HAHSAHJHSHRJDFJ he would be the go-to top for rule 34 artists thirsting on their fav students.......sigh

@smol-hibiscus BRO IVE GOTTEN SOME OF MY OCS WHITE WASHED IN THE PAST AS SOMEONE BROWN IM SHUDDERING HJFRJGHJHDFHH WHERE IS THEIR MELATONIN!!!!!!

hikari uwu soft girl ray im LOSING IT + say hello to makoto being the fic's prompt starter from her revealing someones secret leading to character A breakdown leading to character B following them and cheering them up following up with them probably adding the explicit tag on the fic following up with the entire cast probably ganging up on makoto forcing her to apologize + SATO WE ARE LOOKING AWAY + FUCK HAHHJDHRHJD THE OOPS HAHA!! SWITCHED TO MY MOTHER LANGUAGE WHILE IM SPEAKING TEEHEE

(but ok as someone who is trilingual that does happen sometimes but its not a "HAHA OH NO!! WHOOPSIE MY LANGUAGE HAHOHO" its more like a "fuck shit my bad uhm right the uh. english. whats the fuckin,,,,tip of my tongue word,,,")

@gatortopia THE CHAT FICS IM LOSING MY MIND HAHSHAHHGHJRH I CAN SEE IT ALREADY MY MIND WOULD BREAK IF I HAD TO READ THT SHIT and maniac pixie dream GOBLIN IM YELLING HAHHRGRHJ can tell you that she does drag moa to do a bunch of stuff but I think you'd be surprised with how fun makoto is to hang out with without it being so fuckin chaotic or cringe

@themostmagicalmoose HONESTLY....I JUST HAVE TO LOOK BACK TO 17 YEAR OLD ME TO SEE WHAT KIND OF HORRORS A BNHA FAN WOULD DO TO SATO <////3 uh oh watch out!! UNTOUCHED VILLAIN ARC BACKSTORY HERE WE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

@mousierat ive said it and will say it again: HES GOING TO BE AN ALMOST 100% EXPLICIT TAG ON AO3 AND RULE 34 its like the hentai mob character used to fuck random waifus but for knha

from @zedthebuggy

Sato: someone did mention the teacher X student with sato already, emboldened by his quirk, so there is that ofc, will not name anyone for pretty obvious reasons but it would definitely happen. gets the whole strict teacher persona given to him and literally nothing else outside of that hell universe. That's it, you're mean strict teacher now buh bye. "Sato's class is such a drag UGH he grades everything sOOoOOOo harshly </3"

everyone say hello to aizawa 2.0!! I WANT TO KEEP SAYING THAT HES A STRICT TEACHER BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD HE IS NOT AIZAWA 2.0 I HAVE TO KEEP TRYING TO MAKE CONTENT THAT SHOWCASES HES NOT SCARY COS STRICT =/= SCARY TEACHER!!!!!! hes just a super responsible teacher who looks scary </3

makoto: Hyperactive, moody gamer girl who's way too touchy, gets any basic respect for personal space privileges revoked. Oh, and on those revoked privileges, no more they/them for you!! A shitty mean girl lesbian like Moa, and probably cheats on her for any moa x reader angst fics. So yeah, gets the fem grape boy treatment (forgot his name, don't care to think about it either)

IM YELLING AT THE NO MORE THEY/THEM AND THE FEM GRAPE BOY TREATMENT HJFHJRJHFD IM LOSING MY MIND ESPECIALLY AT THE CHEATS ON HER FOR THE MOA X READER FICS JHDGHJRHJHKFHFG IMAGINE MAKING EITHER OF THE CANON "ANGRY LESBIANS" BREAK UP WITH THE OTHER FOR THE SAKE OF A DIFFERENT SHIP OR X Y/N........watch the misinterpretation of makoto being open to confess she likes any girl/s into "GRAPE BOY 2.0"

miss me: Fandom does not like her uhhhhh.... just imagining the debates on if she's girl vs boy 🤢 and as with any disability, if it's not just memed on or an angst plot point, it is completely erased and irrelevant, :heart: :smile:. probably gets the hero version of queer coded villain treatment, and/or wouldn't be surprised by any Secretly the Villain fics with her.

THE DUDEBROS AND FUJOSHIS SAYING SHES A BOY I CAN SEE IT ARHGHHTHFGHJ "hes an okama which in japanese means hes a boy crossdressing as a girl!" "we love to see boys wearing skirts!!" "there's no way an anime would write a trans character!!" and im so sorry but there are ppl out there who would use her disability as a kink im literally looking away........AND FGHJHRJHJDF FROM HER VILLAIN BACKGROUND YIKESSSSSS LOOKING AWAY EVEN MORE I would love to discuss more but I dont have enough knowledge on queer coded villain treatment </3

hikari: PURE INNOCENT UWU GIRL!!!! NAGA GO AWAY!!!! LESBIANS GO HOME SHE'S HETEROSEXUAL!!!!!!!! LEAVE THE INNOCENT CINNAMON ROLL ALONE!!!!!! UwU~~~ probably gets shipped with Hoshizawa because i want to insert my oc here somewhere you still get red x blue, tall soft innocent beans, and two soft friends discovering the world and overcoming their flaws (severe anxiety little shy & autismbeing weird & sensitive) together very heterosexually!! a lot of soft profile themes with her everywhere. Literally just the purest sweetest softest uwu bean to protecc.

IM GONNA YELL UR ABSOLUTELY RIGHT IMAGINE PPL SAYING SHES HETEROSEXUAL COS SHES TURNING DOWN ALL THE GIRLS CONFESSING TO HER LIKE?!?!?!?? SHES BI-CURIOUS AND AROMANTIC!!!!! also I can see the love triangles forming twilight style she cannot choose which girl she wants and all her suitors fight </3 AND HELLO HOSHIZ HJFHRGHJFJD WOW RED/BLUE HET SHIP GO BRRRRR SWEET CINNAMON ROLL PROTECT HER!!!!

from an anon:

I-IMAGINE THE CENSORSHIP/EDITS THOUGH...sato and toshinori? GOOD TO SEE TWO BEST FRIENDS LIVING TOGETHER! :)

NOOOOO NOT THE CENSORSHIP THEY RLY SAID [HISTORIAN VOICE] THEY WERE TWO VERY GOOD FRIENDS

miss me? either given HYUGE HONKA HONKAS or turned into mr me, no in-between! perhaps given sexcy bikini top while at it

YOURE KILLING ME WITH THE HYUGE HONKA HONKAS DUDE TITS OUT TYPE CHARACTER WHETHER ITS FOR BIG BOOB DUDEBRO LOVERS OR FUJOSHI SISTERS WITH THEIR MALE PECS

MAKOTO YOU BEST HAND OVER THOSE THEY/THEM PRONOUNS RIGHT NOW OR SO HELP ME! also another pair of besties, this time with our resident sheep girl! kawaii!

AGAIN!! ANOTHER THEY/THEM GENDER THEFT CASE!! AND JUST TWO VERY GOOD FRIENDS TEEHEE GAL PALS!!

hikari?? dying?? no, no! she just faints from exertion, adds to her helpless uwu factor! also will you look at that - she's suddenly paler than her mom!

now IM DYING INSTEAD OF HIKARI IM GJFRHHFG FAINTING HGHJGJH hELPLESS UWU FACTOR HELPPPPPP PLS THE WHITEWASHING PALER THAN HER MOM IM CRYINGHJGHG PPL DEFENDING THAT HIKARI SHOULD GET HER SKIN COLOR FROM HER MOM INSTEAD OF HER DADDDD

from an anon:

did you ask for fandom slander for your ocs? no? TOO BAD /lh VERY, VERY BAD TAKES AHEAD! ( i feel like i've committed sacrilege )

sato? oh you know - his quirk would be his defining (only) trait and the amount of gross fics?? oh MAN 😶 they'd turn him into this creepy ass yandere mf?? IGNORE WHATEVER GOOD QUALITIES HE HAS, HE'S NOW UNHINGED HORNBALL WITH ONLY ONE PURPOSE: TO HUMP #1 baby daddy (derogatory) material for those fic writers i AM CRYING AS I TYPE THIS

IM FUCKING YELLING HE WOULD HE TOTALLY WOULD BE A YANDERE IM SO SORRY JGHRJHDFGHDJ IM HAVING FLASHBACKS TO BETA SATO NOOOOOOOOOOOO TEACHER WHO?????? SATO IS A HORNY POSSESSIVE YANDERE BASTARD WHOSE ONLY PURPOSE IS SO B R E E D

miss me? A DISABLED TRANS WOMAN FROM GERMANY. that's it. that's the character! that's how she introduces herself <3 (did i mention that she's trans and from germany?) get ready for heated discourse on how PROBLEMATIC it is to have DISABLED TRANS WOMAN be ex-villain??? (conveniently ignoring whatever character arc and growth she may have experienced, we all know any rep needs to be 100% 'good' or else you will be CANCELLED!!) discourse. discourse as far as my eyes can see.

WHATS THAT??? TRANS?? DISABLED?? FROM GERMANY WHERE THOSE VERY BAD PEOPLE ARE FROM?? AND SHE WAS A VILLAIN????? MY GOD!!!! SHES TOTALLY A VILLAIN HIJACKING UA!!!! WHOEVER KNOWS WHAT SHE HAS UP HER SLEEVE HER QUIRK MAY BE DODGING BUT GOD KNOWS SHE CANT DODGE THE HOT TAKES THE FANDOM HAS FOR HER

hikari? rich crybaby! uwufy her to the point where she's constantly trembling and sobbing and y/n reader has to protect and inspire her to become a hero! (family WHO, y/n is hikari's only motivation!!) she'd make for a WONDERFUL angst fodder to fuel SOMEONE ELSES story! die tragically so they could have their big moment - and generally be robbed of any agency and personality <3 (also 'is this a pigeon?' meme because she's just SO!sheltered!!)

PERSONALITY TRAIT? SHELTERED! TOTALLY DOESNT KNOW ANYTHING AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE HER BABY HAND AND DRAG HER ALONG TO SHOW HER THE WONDERS OF THE WORLD COS SHES SUFFERED SO MUCH Y/N TAKE IT AWAY <3 SHE TOTALLY CANT BECOME A HERO HERSELF SHE HAS NO SORT OF CONFIDENCE SO SHE HAS TO RELY ON OTHERS TO PROTECT HER!!!! my god the amount of angsty death fics she would have too I--

makoto? oh, a pest! whether they would be adored (in a 'omg so random! xD' way) or despised ('MAKOTO IS AN ABUSIVE BULLY AND HERE'S WHY (READMORE)') it all boils down to how people would (mis)interpret her mischief! OBVIOUSLY MEAN SPIRITED!!! 'MAKOTO IS THE UA TRAITOR THEORY' SHE'S EVIL WHAT HERO WOULD NAME THEMSELVES 'VIRUS'!!! cue people hc that they were created by afo or some shit and will betray their friends <3

ABUSIVE BULLY GOODBYEEHFHJHJGRHJ THE WHOLE "OK AITO AND MITSUMI IS PROBLEMATIC BUT I THINK WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM AND ITS THE UNDERRATED MAKOTO IS ACTUALLY THE WORST WE SHOULD TALK ABT IT MORE!!!"