#i hate you “oye primos”
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mariasabanahabanabana · 2 years ago
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Y aprovechando que ando dopada por tantos medicamentos para las alergias, intoxicación, salmonelosis y tiroides y porque tal parece me encanta hacerme enojar, dar opiniones que tal vez nunca nadie lea al estilo de congresista en la ONU /critica de cine y claro está el auto provocarme úlceras por hacer corajes, intentaré analizar próximamente TODO LO QUE ESTA MAL CON LA SERIE DE "OYE PRIMOS", si, en este perfil odimos hasta la muerta a la serie, su creadoras y cada y uno de los encargados que le dieron vida / luz verde al proyecto...
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And taking advantage of the fact that Im doped by so many medications for allergies, intoxication, salmonellosis and thyroid and cause I seem to love to make myself angry, give opinions that maybe nobody will ever read in the style of congressman in the ONU/film critic and of course to give myself ulcers by making me angry, I will try to analyse soon ALL THAT IS WRONG WITH THE SERIES OF "OYE PRIMOS"
YEAH, in this profile we hate to death the series, creators and each and every one of the people in charge who gave life / green light to the project...
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saveme-storybrooke-potc · 2 years ago
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This is just one big rant of mine because I am just tired at this point.
Can the newer (just now rising to fame) Hispanic/Latino actors PLEASE stop trying to gaslight young Latinos by telling them that there are little to no Latino content out there?
I am so sick of this "Diversity" ideology that is out there, people are acting like just because there are shows out there with a White cast that it's bad when it isn't.
Things don't have to have a bit of EVERYTHING just to be good.
and I'm not saying that we shouldn't see things like poc or lgbtq (but I'm mainly talking about poc) but I want to see things more naturally and NOT meant to be there as a way to say "I LOVE AND SUPPORT YOU AND YOU MATTER"
because guess what? We were fine with the media we had beforehand where we just had a show that had a multi-cultured cast and it wasn't treated as a big deal it was just enjoyed. And there can still be lessons on why some people may not be treated equally but I want the media to treat us like we are actual human beings and NOT some marketing tool or used because now you won't be eligible for the Oscars unless you have a good majority of minorities in the cast.
But back on Hispanics, there is this new show called "Oye Primos" (Which is the best example on why we don't need any more "diversity" in the media) and when people pointed out that there was a problem with the spelling the creator behind it went on to say "Spanish isn't even the Mexican language it is the language that we use now that we've been colonized" (I will fix the quote but it was from a video so I don't remember it word for word) But SHE is choosing to make the show about Mexico after Spain happened. Also, Spain colonized Latin America hundreds of years ago so I don't get why she's the one complaining, if she really wanted to do something then she should have made a show or movie to "educate" people on the history.
But she also says (Which is just straight up BS):
“As a kid, I didn’t see myself or my culture represented onscreen,” Kline recalled. “So I’m excited to share my family dynamic through these new Disney characters and stories.”
Which chica Disney is NOT the place you want to work for to create your Hispanic heritage into content.
Some people are complaining about the "stereotype" of "big Latino family small house" (which I can't really comment on because that's literally my uncle and his kids) I don't really like the word "Stereotype" when it refers to something you see every day (like if you were to say "How dare they use the stereotype that Asians are hard at studying" which is only an example of how people complain when it comes to it but that isn't really a harmful stereotype on how people look at Asians it's just a difference in culture and behaviour compared to white folk because even Hispanics or at least people in Ecuador are hard at studying) But I WILL comment on the kid's names because good Lord are they atrocious. Listen I know that kids' shows choose to give the kids weird ass names to describe their personalities (violently side-eying Ever After High, and Descendants here) but those names are like what Mexicans cook on Cinco de Mayo celebration I don't know about any of you but we've never given each other nicknames after food (my cousin's was literally "The Tank" and she was a fucking child) What are you going to do next? introduce a kid named Empanada?
Do you want to know an amazing Latino show?
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George Lopez THAT is a show that is about Latinos (and other minorities), all laughs reminds you all the time that he is Mexican married to a Cuban but it's still not rubbing it in your face. This is an old show that should never die because it is perfect because it pokes fun at everyone and everything while also teaching great value to different everyday struggles.
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Please can I stop being told that I am not represented as a Latino in the media, hell I'm from Ecuador and I don't complain about there being hardly any Ecuadorian content other than (as far as I am aware of) Miguel Diaz from Cobra Kai which of course I enjoyed to see but that was only a small detail about the character that wasn't made his whole character and that's why I watch the show. And yes I always joke about wanting Disney to make a movie about Ecuador (before I even consider watching Encanto yet) but like it's not that deep to me.
We literally have our own channels so half the time we really dgaf about what Hollywood is whining about go touch grass if your main concern is there "aren't enough poc" in the media over any other important issue in the world.
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agentjazzy · 7 months ago
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oh wow, it looks like Disney's Primos is coming out - I thought they shelved it!
I showed my parents the trailer, and they immediately said that the main character looks just like I did when I was little lmao, because it's true
Because, like, 1)I'm Chicane, and we have the exact same coloring, 2)I had short hair and braces from ages 9-11, 3)I had many many pairs of jean shorts, 4)glasses, lol, and 5)my mom shaved my unibrow every month when I was little
And then, of course, the premise - when I was 8 I had to live with my cousins for Summer (+ one month of school) before we moved in with my grandparents bc *~*technically we were homeless for several years*~*
How many cousins? Well, first with only 3, but then there were problems, so then we moved in with a different tía, who, at the time, had 7 kids.
(if anyone's curious, I have 20 cousins total, with 1 more on the way)
Being in single 3 bedroom house (with 2 makeship rooms in the garage) with 7 cousins, 4 adults, and my little brother was. Um. An experience.
But anyway, after I showed my parents the trailer, I told them this show was supposed to premiere a year ago but had controversies after the theme song dropped, then I showed them the original theme song to see if anything caught their attention.
And sure enough, absolutely nothing. My mom questioned the nickname Nachos, bc it can sound kinda iffy, but nothing else caught their attention.
(and oh, for context, they both grew up in LA, both growing up translating for their parents)
I showed them some clips of why people hated it, and yeah, they were confused bc they would say "oye primos," not "oigan primos." I guess my grandparents weren't concerned with teaching exact grammar at home, more concerned with making sure that my parents were learning english at school
everyone being mad at "terremoto heights" was um. weird. because we're constantly making earthquake jokes, because we're waiting for The Big One, which we know will inevitably screw us over and possible strand us without water and home if/when it comes. but we still joke about it, you know? my whole class made earthquake jokes, and my parents made earthquake jokes when they were in school and they lived through the LA quakes
it makes me wonder if Animaniacs released their "A Quake" song today, would people have been up in arms as much as they have for Primos?
but I guess changing it is fair, if Disney wants to have an international release. even if making earthquake jokes is part of SoCal culture.
they were really surprised about the nickname controversies, because here in SoCal, those nicknames are like. pretty common. yes, even the one that they ended up changing. it's almost as if words have different connotations in different places..........
ANYWAY the biggest thing is that they agreed that the voice actress was out of line (although they think it's obvious that the "shithole" comment was poking fun at trump and that that was being taken out of context in bad faith) but - and this is an inside joke I'm not gonna elaborate on - makes sense considering her name
(IF YOU'RE A MUTUAL OR A TRUSTED FOLLOWER, if you're curious about the joke, I WILL dm you to explain if you ask)
but yeah. it's obvious that this is Disney's answer to The Loud House and The Casagrandes - that being said, all the vitriol towards this shows seems very unfounded. this show just seems very Chicano, moreso than other things I've seen.
and like, as I've explained here, this show is very, heavily relatable to me specifically. none of my white friends understood the pains of living with a bunch of your wild cousins - but multiple of my Chicana friends did. at different schools districts even.
it's just... a lot of the things people are shouting is "bad representation" is literally just... my life. And, apparently, the creator's life, considering it's based on her childhood.
I think it's nice that she made a show about Chicano culture. It does suck that apparently no one knows or even seem to want to know what Chicano culture is.
I just can't help but to wonder if I ever make something about my life, my lived experience... will people call me bad representation? idk.
anyway, I'll probably check the first few episodes out. I'm not sure I'll watch the whole series, since, lately, Disney's shows have been kinda a miss for me. but maybe I'll be surprised. I'm willing to give it a shot
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theliterarywolf · 2 years ago
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Okay pleeeeeeease tell me you've been seeing the Latin community tearing this new show from Disney to shreds
It's called Oye Primos and from what little I could gather (my Spanish is very bad) the name alone is a grammatical error, (its supposed to be oye primo, no s?) when someone tried to point it out to the creator she got upset, one character is name cuqito and some said it meant "cockroach" while others said it can also mean "pussy" another named Gordita (obvious what that means) the town they live in literally being named Earthquake Heights (holy shit that's fucked)
The opening theme ended up getting universally panned everywhere online to the point Disney removed it everywhere except for YouTube
And the pitch Bible just kept tossing the word latinx all over, and well we know how much controversy that word has
And this is just a me thing but personally, I hate the art style it's really ugly
Oh, you mean 'Mexican Loud House but Not Even Because The Casagrandes Exists?'
Yeah, I've seen that shitshow of an initial promo-run. I think it says something that the few decent Mexican/Mesoamerican IPs that we've gotten in recent years have pretty much been via the shoulders of one man who just so happens to be, I don't know, passionate about good-looking animation and good writing?
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ghostatrandom · 2 years ago
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Listen, the one thing I will say about the Disney Show: Primos is damn, I'm tired..
Mostly because on one hand: this show technically does not reflect my reality, or any southamerican reality. This was a show made by and for Latino-north americans (Latino gringo if you wanna be more explicit). The no sabo kids deserve to have their mixed culture represented on tv, because I can't imagine what is like to be an inmigrant child that is constantly told that they are not accepted in any of their cultural heritages. This should not be my place to speak.
(Also without mentioning that latinoamerica also has racist roots, I have already seen redesigns making the protagonist light-skinned saying she is now argentinian. Just tell me you envy my tanned sweet skin you bastarda conchesumare-)
But on the other hand: it kinda is my place to speak? Because even if this show tries to only show a mexican-american culture, sadly, at the eyes of the white public, there is no difference. They will probably assume that yeah, this is a southamerican reality, that shows many of the estereotypes/shared realities that latino people have been fighting against (because yeah, my family grew up in a single household for a long time, and I love my family, but that wasn't healthy, we are much better now living in our own spaces). Especially because when you label a show as a "latino show", you generalize the culture, and we are the ones who have to educate time and time again that no, we are not a single culture, We share the palo encebado and a lot of recipes, but we are not a mono-culture.
Also a lot of the crew has been outright mean? Not very receptive of the simple criticism of "es oigan primos, no oye primos" and calling spanish a colonizer language? Which, yeah, it is, but hear yourself for a moment and tell me, what language are you speaking?
It feels patronizing, it might be that weird internalized envy every latino feels when someone is out of this region and fullfilling that "american dream" we were fed up everytime we were kids. And know seeing our cultures distorted on a big tv channel is breaking our pride.
But I don't blame the full crew, they grew up in that distorted reality of what it means to be latino, to be rejected by both sides and growing up without a clear identity.
Yet, it still feels wrong to feel good about this show, but it feels wrong to try to hate it? Is this what No Sabo people feel all the time? It's weird
I guess all I'm going to say: this could've been avoided if they hired hispanic-speaking people into the crew.
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papirouge · 2 years ago
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I'm the anon that sent you the message about hating the term PoC. Yeah, I pretty much agreee with everything you say. I don't believe much in POC solidarity because our struggles are very different between each other, and trying to paint everything as us vs whites does not really work. Perhaps for americans it does, since they have a very diverse population, but it's more difficult when talking about other countries.
Like latin americans do not have the best relationships between each other, they might share language but have very different cultures. Like the other day I was reading about this cartoon named "Oye primos" that was going to premiere and it was made by a second gen latina, where she looked to represent her growing up in a latin community in the USA, but she was clowned by pretty much every latino leaving outside of America. First, because the name of the cartoon is gramatically wrong (it should be "OIGAN primos, not OYE primos), second, because she used the word "LATINX", which latinos hate, and third, because she named the town the characters live in "Terremoto (Earthquake) Heights" or something like that (people though it was offensive because Mexico and Chile have suffered through a lot of earthquakes). And there's other stuff, like people saying the animation is ugly (very calart) and so on. Some people even started praising Los Casagrande, a spin off of The Loud House with a main mexican family thats not even made by latinos, but its considered far superior.
Sorry, I got a little carried away with that, what I wanted to say it's that its pretty common for latinos to kinda tear each other up, but they unite if they want to clown a "gringo" or something (and yes, they pointed out that the author basically being a 2nd gen makes her a gringa... I guess). Plus a lot of latinos dont like anything that looks "woke", and they considered that show does, so it was doomed from the start. The creator of the show felt pretty overwhelmed by the negative reception, received a lot of backlash and it apparently affected her a lot. I feel pretty bad for her actually.
And yeah, argentinians are actually pretty white, not only because a lot of italians and germans migrated there (if you ever read the names of their national soccer team, you'll notice many names are of italian origin), but because they're at the very south. Chile is also pretty white. But yeah, argentinians have always been pinned as being pretty arrogant and full of themselves, so it doesnt surprise me that they feel they're superior because their team is white. I remember that argentinians and fans of Messi in general were clowning Mbappe for allegedly being in a relationship with a transwoman, so they invented some pretty homophobic chants... soccer fans be like that
Ugh, this got so long,... I was gonna mention asians and their own issues too, but i think it's enough. I did wanted to ask you something though: is France a racist country?? How has your experience being impacted by being black?
Don't be sorry anon, I love these loooong asks where I get to know more my followers 🧡
It's pretty ironic you're talking about Asians because in one of my post where I'm talking about White conservative weaponizing minorities against each other somehow triggered A LOT of people. I even got a comment saying "put the reblogs back I have to give my perspective as someone with Asian/japanese ancestry" and I got like..... "Hm no?" LMAO This girl REALLY thought her opinion was remotely relevant when this was my perspective as Black person and I am not interested about some random Asian take on that issue. Sis really thought my post was a diss against Asians success (I mean every single person who interacted with that post had a negative IQ and entirely missed the post that's why I muted the reblogs) and got like "the cOnsErVatiVes aRe jUst acKnoLedgiNg oUr sUcCesS uwu"...... There's no wonder East Asians are looked down as White people's cucks 💀 IDK, if my community was being weaponized by racist scrotes to dogpile on other I wouldn't go uwuwhy do you mean?uwu about it. How can people have so little self awareness? ...That's why I don't believe in POC and that some communities will actually be more than willing this silence us. Sis really tried to all lives matter my take and I have no patience for that.
And soccer is brain disease tbh. Case in point : the racist Argentinians players dragging Mbappé... Which is a shame bc Messi and him seem to be very cool. Fans are the worst. I think I realized how racist these people were when they said ANTOINE GRIEZMANN (France NT player) wasn't White enough just because his mom was...... Portuguese (when his dad is German)💀
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Imagine thinking this man is not White enough when them Argentians be looking like tragic mulattos themselves 💀💀 HE'S LITERALLY THE ARYAN PROTOTYPE 💀💀his name is ANTOINE. THAT'S THE WHITEST FRENCHIEST NAME EVER!! NEVER IN MY LIFE DID I MEET SOMEONE CALLED ANTOINE THAT WASN'T WHIIIIITE 💀💀💀💀
Argentinians living up their nazi heritage ; Portugal ain't white enough lmao...
What's funny with Latins is that they have this thinly veiled superiority complex with Black people.....but highkey are envious of the cultural impact of Black culture worldwide. Latin culture has a load of influence on music, but its impact is not as multifaceted as Black culture (beside music, fashion, hairstyles, make up, slang, etc.). I saw some Latins seethe about Black Panther and the hype the Black community was having from this movie, and Black twitter, in its usual shadiness got like "hmmm don't you have Rio? 🤔" LMAOOOO (it was before Encanto though)
And is France racist? hm... I mean, it's a European country 🥴🥴 but it's definitely one of the least racist one for sure. Non french netizens will do the most about how islamophobic France is, but Islam isn't a race so the problem our country has with Islam isn't much related to race. Because of colonization, France has many territories oversea where its natives are Black, so France is inherently already multiracial, and that's something that many French people acknowledge. I feel like french are more worried about culture than race (ln many aspects, I, as a Christian Black woman, have to bear much less prejudice than a Muslim male, for example). That's why our country is very defensive against Islam (which comes with a whole cultural set) rather than race.
We consider assimilation as a staple and reject self IDing communities (whether they might be sexual, racial, religious). Any stats trying to quantity race, religion or sexuality are ILLEGAL, here. That's why when I see foreign rightoids be like "France is already 25% Muslim!! #greatreplacement" I just know they are full of shit, because such stats are technically illegal...
To give you an example, France leader of the far-FAR right is a Jew...(Eric Zemmour) and a significant amount of people from North Africa/muslim are in the (far) right too.. (many of them change their names to make them sound more french/less Arab such as Jean Messiha lmao)
France itself is a mixed nation between Romans invader and Galicians (basically France indigenous) also some viking mingling in the north(?) That's why french people can be very phenotypically diverse. If you look Griezman (France North type) and Kenji Girac (Southern France type - he's also a gypsy) who are both White french while looking quite different.
Unfortunately nationalism is on the rise, there's an actual revival of neo Nazi (which is hilarious bc France has been invaded/defeated by Nazi and that actual self respecting French rightoids hate Nazism because of that 💀) so I feel like France is getting less sale for foreigners/non Whites. I think France is the best place to live in Europe if you're afraid of racism but yeah, it's getting quite heated here....
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dianaventurers · 2 years ago
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Agree w/ ur posts on oye primos like idk maybe the show will turn out bad, but the hate is disproportionate. Straight-up saw a person saying that the creator isn't latine "just because her parents are, doesn't mean she is too" like man. What? 🙄 maybe if they watched the show they'd learn about what it's like to be that kid who's apparently not latine or american or anybody. Also it's a show set in California, not anywhere in Latin America. If they missed that context, that's not the creators fault!
Thank you! Thank you thank you thank you! Yes! Like, this is about a specific kind of experience, it's not a threat. It's as if the anger about what they think it is, is preventing them from finding out what it's about. It would be funny if it wasn't infuriating how wrong they're getting the few facts of the show we have. I totally agree. Invalidating the latin identity of the creator sends a pretty painful message to people who are stuck being both and neither. Forever other.
I found the pilot episode (split into parts 1-6) and in part 3 the main character's mom calls to her from another room saying "Mija"... People in the comments were saying "Wow!? They named a character Mija!? How lazy!" Like, buddy, there's context you're missing here.
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xsaintseraphx · 2 years ago
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so idk if you guys know about this new disney show called oye primos and im furious and i want to talk about it. like its so stereotypical and terrible and the namesssssssss i hate it so much
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upperstories · 7 years ago
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IT'S STILL YOUR BIRTHDAY OVER ON MY COAST SO IT STILL COUNTS
SO I HEARD YOU LIKE PRIMO BONDING AND I ALSO HEARD IT WAS YOUR BIRTHDAY SO HERE’S MY BIRTHDAY PRESENT FOR YOU AND I HOPE YOU LIKE IT WHEN YOU WAKE UP TOMORROW. HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!
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                “Be very careful with this, Teto, okay? If you don’t hold it properly, you could get really hurt.”
                Enrique watched as Héctor nodded, face as serious as a five-year-old could manage, before his eyes widened as Mamá lit his candle. Really, he was supposed to get picked up a week ago by Tía Mariana, but Mamá was dead-set on little Teto not noticing that he’d been left behind (again) and Enrique was determined to help. So, since Mamá had to finish an order tonight—even though it was the first night of Las Posadas—he’d volunteered to stay with Héctor throughout the procession, to make sure he didn’t get burned by his candle or lost on the way to that night’s Posada house. After all, as Héctor had cheerfully pointed out earlier, he’d never gotten to join in Las Posadas before; they didn’t have that in the hotels he and Tía Mari stayed in.
                So, once everyone’s candle was lit, the big group made their way from Mariachi Plaza through the streets of Santa Cecilia, a long trail of golden flames following behind Mary and Joseph (who were played tonight by Quique’s friend, Andres, and Juana, who hated Andres with a passion). Enrique glanced down at Héctor, making sure he was holding his candle right.
                “If you get too nervous holding it, you can blow it out,” he whispered. Héctor shook his head firmly, eyes focused on the candle for a moment before he looked up at Enrique.
                “Where are we going again, Quique?” he whispered.
                “It’s Las Posadas, so we’re looking for in inn for Mary and Joseph. You know, Jesus’ parents.”
                “Why do they need to stay in Santa Cecilia?”
                “Well, they’re not really staying here. We’re just acting out the Bible story.”
                “Oh.” Héctor fell silent, and Quique looked up to see where they were heading to. Looked like they were heading to the Ramos’ house tonight—oh, Teto would love that. They always got the best piñatas. He looked down as Héctor tugged at his jacket.
                “Use both hands to hold your candle, Teto.”
                “Sorry. Why are we acting it out? Is someone gonna have a baby?”
                “It’s…well, it’s a tradition. You know, to tell everyone how Jesus was born.”
                Héctor’s eyes widened. “So Jesus is coming?”
                Enrique laughed and shook his head. “Sure, yeah. We’re helping Jesus tonight. Ah! Mira, mira, Héctor! We’re at the house!”
                As they approached the Ramos’ house, the group began to sing to the closed door.
En el nombre del cielo
os pido posada,
pues no puede andar
mi esposa amada”
                There was a short pause before Señor y Señora Ramos sang back:
“Aquí no es mesón
sigan adelante,
yo no puedo abrir,
no sea algún tunante.”
                “What? They can’t do that!”
                Enrique glanced down at Héctor’s exclamation, eyebrows raising as Héctor looked up at him with a hard frown.
                “It’s Jesus! You can’t say go away to Jesus!” he protested.
                “Shh, está bien, Teto. Just wait,” Enrique assured before the group sang back:
“No seas inhumano,
tenos caridad,
que el Dios de los cielos
te lo premiará.”
                Another pause. Enrique kept his eyes on Héctor as the Ramos’ sang:
“Ya se pueden ir
y no molestar
porque si me enfado
los voy a apalear.”
                Héctor puffed out his cheeks. “That’s not how they should talk to a baby.”
                “They’re not talking to a baby, Teto, they’re…”
                “It’s not how they should talk to anyone! It’s mean!”
                “Héctor, it’s fine, just wait, okay?”
“Venimos rendidos
desde Nazaret,
yo soy carpintero
de nombre José.”
                Enrique grimaced as he waited for the Ramos’ to sing back.
“No me importa el nombre,
déjenme dormir,
pues ya les digo
que no hemos de abrir.”
                This time, Héctor didn’t say anything. Enrique sighed in relief. He must have figured out that it was just pretend. He looked down at his primo just in time to see his brow furrow before he blew out his candle.
                “Teto? Are you…” The question was lost in the strangled noise he made as Héctor started pushing his way through the crowd. “Héctor! Stop!”
                Héctor didn’t stop. He used his small size to his advantage, dodging and ducking through the other peregrinos too quickly for Enrique to easily catch up to him. He’d only gotten halfway through the crowd when, with wide, horrified eyes, he saw Héctor knock hard on the door.
                “Oye! Stop being mean!” he called through the door. “You can’t leave a baby outside! Especially not when it’s Jesus!”
                Enrique finally managed to throw himself to the front of the crowd, grabbing Héctor’s hand as the door opened. He gave an awkward smile as Señor y Señora Ramos looked at them curiously. “Sorry, sorry, perdónanos. It’s his first time doing Las Posadas and…” He looked down as Héctor, peeking around Señor Ramos’ legs, let out a loud gasp before sending him a hard glare.
                “You have plenty of room for a baby! You shouldn’t lie like that!”
                “Héctor, shush.”
                “But they do!”
                “Shush.”
                The couple looked at each other for a moment, then glanced at a few of the parents in the procession before Señora Ramos elbowed her husband with an exaggerated gasp.
                “Mi vida, look who it is! It’s the Virgin Mary!”
                Señor Ramos matched her gasp. “Ay, you’re right, Ramona!” He grinned down at Héctor. “It’s such a lucky thing you told us, niño, or we might have turned the holy family away!”
                They opened the door and gestured for the peregrinos to come inside, singing,
“Dichosa la casa
que abriga este día
a la Virgen Pura
la hermosa María.”
                Enrique pulled Héctor aside to let Andres and Juana go in first, noting his primo’s proud look at having done right by baby Jesus. As the procession went inside singing the final verse, Enrique let out a long sigh, then smiled at Héctor.
                “Well, for helping out Mary and Joseph, I bet you’ll get the first whack at the piñata.”
                Héctor’s face immediately lit up. “We get a piñata?!”
                “Por supuesto! How else are we supposed to celebrate? Come on, Teto.”
                The rest of the Posada party was relatively normal. Héctor had the time of his life with the piñata and the music, and at one point, Enrique caught sight Señora Ramos showing him their little nacimiento display, patiently explaining that they did have plenty of room for baby Jesus, they were just pretending to be mean earlier. Héctor seemed to accept that before going off to play with a few of the other younger kids.
                By the time Berto had announced it was time to head back home, Héctor was dozing against Enrique’s side, evidently worn out from the party. Enrique had coaxed him to climb up on his back, easily carrying him as everyone began heading back to their homes. He was fairly certain little Teto was asleep, so it was a surprise when he felt him shift.
                “Quique?”
                “Sí, Teto?”
                “Was I bad earlier?”
                Enrique glanced back, then shook his head. “No, you weren’t bad. You just wanted to help Jesus out like I said we would.” He smiled. “But now that you know it’s pretend, why don’t you just follow my lead tomorrow, okay?”
                Héctor lifted his head to look at Enrique, eyes wide. “We get to do this again?”
                “Mm-hm. All the way up to Noche Buena. And I promise, Mary and Joseph will be let in every time.” He laughed. “Maybe you can even be Joseph one night.”
                “En serio?!”
                “I’ll talk to Mamá about it.”
                He felt Héctor grin as he settled his face against Enrique’s shoulder again. “This is the best first Posadas ever!” His arms squeezed around his primo just a touch tighter. “Gracias, Quique.”
                “Aw, Teto, don’t even mention it. This is what primos are for.“
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mardetragediasx · 2 years ago
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Mami… Papi… no me callen en la mesa de los hombres
It’s exhausting being the oldest daughter in a Mexican household. I’m technically the middle child since my older sister is living in Mexico. But it’s exhausting when you have to deal with stereotypes, homophobia, and machismo.
Okay so there are upsides to living in a Mexican household but there are some internalized societal and generational racism, colorism, homophobia, and machista rhetoric happening. Not only that but alcoholism is very common. I’m not trying to stereotype that all Mexicans have alcoholism but some of my family members have alcohol-related issues that are affecting their everyday life.
Anyway…
I will never forget a particular conversation I had with some relatives when I was younger. We would go over to their home for dinner on Saturdays. My mom would make rice and salad to bring for the big feast. I would either help out or finish up some homework during the day. My mom would tell us to dress nicely because it wouldn’t be right if we showed up looking a mess. This is understandable but it was always exhausting having to dress up to impress a tia that would constantly gossip and be toxic to others. Whatever, I would go along with what my mom would ask of me and my sister.
My dad would buy a case of beers and if he was feeling fancy that evening, he would buy a case of Modelo Especial: Negra. I didn’t understand the hype around it at all. But the men enjoyed it when we would go over for dinner.
Ah…
Pause.
The tíos and my dad are going to be drinking tonight.
Sigh.
So I always had to brace myself because I knew they would dive into some intense conversations and break out of their “perfect husband/father” character. Time to call them out on this!
My mother and father hated when I would call the tíos and primos out during these dinners. My tía knew not to bring up anything “controversial” around me because I would just ask her follow-up questions and bring it back to how she grew up with these ideologies. My mom would give me a particular stare when I would start correcting my uncles about some of the conversations they were starting to make. 
Well during one of these conversations, I triggered one of my uncles. He was enraged. My dad told him to calm down because was a grown adult trying to argue with a child, me. Surprisingly, that day my dad did not stop me from speaking up. He let me carry on with the conversation and my mom didn’t say much. They knew I was right and I always stood my ground. 
My uncle was telling his wife (my tia) to serve him another plate because the soccer match was getting intense and he didn’t want to miss it. My tia was still eating and she stopped, picked up his plate, and went to serve him. I watched him staring at the TV and rolled my eyes. My cousin raised his eyebrow at me and I told him, “¿Que tanto le cuesta de servirse un plato, eh?” and my cousin put his index finger as if he were shushing me. My uncle looked at me and asked me, “que dijiste?” and I continued to eat. I looked at him and shrugged. He sucked his teeth and continued to watch the game. My tia was taking a while and he took notice and yelled out, “Oye vieja, apurate. Fuiste a matar la vaca o que?”. 
No one paid him any attention because he was always like this. It was normal. 
It infuriated me. It ignited a lot of anger in me. The way everyone has spoken to my mom, tias, and primas is so unfair. The way relatives that I’ve loved for so long have not stood up for the most important woman in their lives. Yet, here I am speaking up and trying not to cry because that would just make my argument “invalid”. If I were to start crying, everyone would just roll their eyes and start asking me why am I crying? Why cry and not get my point across? My cousin looked at his dad and told him to “stop”. My uncle told him, “callate el hosico o te pego” and I lost my cool. I stopped eating and with my voice slightly raised, “Oye… si no te gusta que tu sirvienta se tarde, porque no te paras para servir tu plato, eh?”. He was so livid and called me a “niña malcreada” and my dad looked at him. My dad was red and the anger in his voice was different to when he would get angry at me and my sister.
My dad yelled at him, “Por eso es que tus hijos no te aprecian. Callate si no te va peor. Mi hija es mas educada que el hijo tuyo. Tal palo esta la astilla. Callate el hocico tuyo”. They started arguing and ignored the soccer match that was taking place on tv. My mom signaled to me and my sister that we should leave. We were all still eating and I nodded my head. Once we were done eating, my tia pulled me aside and said she never challenges him. She knows how he can get and she lets things be. I remember looking at her confused and hugged her. I felt bad that she had to accept his abuse and continue to provide for her kids. It made me think how many parents stay together for the sake of their kids but it does more damage than good. 
We left that night and my mom scolded me for sparking up a conversation like that during dinner. I understood where she was coming from but I told her I would defend her the same way I did there. My dad patted me on the head and said, “mi hija es bien cabrona”*. I laughed and reflected on the things my parents have taught me and the things I’ve witnessed within our family. I told them never to hush me when I’m around men that are used to down-talking women. I don’t like that and I will never let someone talk over me.
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mariasabanahabanabana · 2 years ago
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I haven't seen you yet (the series / trailer), But since now on I tell you (TO THE WHOLE CREATIVE AND PRODUCTION TEAM) THAT THIS IS NOT INCLUSIVE, THIS, IS THE MOST RACIST SH!T THAT EXISTS AFTER DONALD TRUMP AND BARACK OBAMA (No, the mention I made to him was not because of something racist, but because of his actions that were against the Latin community)
I would say, "with all due respect, to whoever liked this mentada de madre (bullshit), but no, Enough of apologizing (specifically to the gringos) for complaining about the racism that continues to be normalized in the middle of the 21st century.
Again, at first I was Gonna say, "with all due respect to those who liked this shit, but", but no...With the simple fact of having seen or enjoyed this series, you already become part of the problem and I AM NOT GOING TO DISCUSS IT
Gringos (people residing in the U.S.A [no, I'm not going to call you Americans]) who have never had even the slightest contact with the true reality of Latin America PUTAS MADRES (For fucking thousandth time) STOP PROFITTING WITH THE LATIN COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY DO YOU NOT HAVE IT, BUT IT ALSO DOES NOT CORRESPOND TO YOU AND ONLY ENCOURAGE HATE TOWARDS THE LATINO COMMUNITY (MEXICAN [I say Mexican not only because is because we have the greengos above us)
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