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So, what are their heights?
DISC0RD: 7'3 (w/o antlers) Michael (Vessel): 5'8 Bifrons (Vessel): 5'6 Abaddon (Vessel): 5'5 Joanne: 5'5 Jackie: 5'4 Dakota: 5'2 Trinity: 5'2 Gabriel (Vessel): 5'1 Teadosia: '11 (w/ legs)
#i grew up with spn#of course gabriel will be the shortest#and yes i think its funny#DISC0RD P0STING#teadosia the short queen#lmao#what more do you expect from a teapot#also yes it makes sense for two 12/13 yr olds to be 5'2#my 12 yr old sister is about 5'2
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Ok, but if you wanna circle that Siken quote around, maybe post the whole thing?
The second part is the important one.
Also, for those who still can't seperate fiction from reality and are obvi already pestering him, because he dared to name that ship:
#richard siken#shipping discourse#again sigh#johnlock#destiel#wincest#the ship is not illegal#but if you did anything Sam and Dean do irl it would be#all of it btw#but I don't see people getting upset about credit card fraud or grave desecration in SPN fics#weird huh?#ship and let ship#or block and blacklist#it really is that simple#also please read more books#that seems to be a general problem these days#I grew up with Bukowski and Roth and Irving#that helps
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angel with a shotgun. woah. just like in destiel.
#to be clear i know this song is not just about dean and cas#i grew up listening to it before i watched supernatural#but it’s So fun to imagine them to it#and i love how much it applies to them el oh el#destiel#supernatural#spn#strawbsposts
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doing my spn rewatch & they really said
when sam was younger he played on a soccer team long enough to go to championships with them:)
[2 secs later]
in sixth grade dean was making guns :D
#the way i'm not even exaggerating the time btwn lines like the writers said that whiplash needs to be IMMEDIATE#casual reminders abt how differently the boys grew up despite living in each others pockets and in the same motel rooms#also dean's comment abt how sam on the soccer team was the closest he came to being a boy#which is obv meant to be continuing his teasing abt sam behaving/looking girly#but could also be so easily interpreted as him reminiscing the days when his baby brother got to just be a child#was dean even old enough to be part of a little league before the fire or no since its almost certain he didn't get to do any of that after#john winchester when i fucking catch you#spn rewatch#bad day at black rock#sam and dean#sam winchester#dean winchester
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I gotta tell you, the spn pilot could’ve been a lot more insane that what we got! “Look at your little girl now” what.
#idk if I believe that Constance’s particular cut out story mirrors Sam in any way#considering the fact that all spn characters mirror either Sam or Dean in SOME way#when she grew up she liked to cut her boyfriends in front of the house#in front of mommy and daddy like “look at your little girl now#spn#spn pilot#supernatural#supernatural pilot#scriptwriting#sam winchester
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Wake up bro it's 2005, conspiracy theories now hitting teh interwebz are so funny haha... Threatening US democracy with fascism? Misinformation crisis led by foreign agents and artificial intelligence and our own whose "memes" distract from it all by pretending their illiterate "discourse" on tv matters/gets to deprive us of escapism and catharsis we'd sorely need? Sounds like you've been reading too much Weekly World News roflmao come on let's go watch Supernatural XD
#*Sugar We're Going Down distantly in the background*#where my 2000s kids who don't fall for nonsense because we grew up reading Snopes and Museum of Hoaxes and RationalWiki at??#this has been a love letter to early Supernatural and its jabs @ hilarious tabloids and the culture of rational skepticism I miss so dearly#supernatural#spn#dean winchester#sam winchester#spn crack#2.03#2.15#mine#(I know the actual clips aren't 2005 don't @ me)
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i think sam and dean’s relationship with sex in the early seasons is so interesting because it’s so vastly different yet both indicative of abuse.
dean sees his body as an object; a weapon, a tool. he has no say in his own life. he thinks he’s just alive to serve his purpose. he buzzes his hair military short and dresses just like his father to gain his approval, while john always treated dean as a means to an end. he was told to take care of sammy, and dragged along to hunts, and given orders like he was nothing but a robot. if sam got hurt, it was his fault. if he got hurt, he wasn’t fast enough. he’s taught to put himself in harms way constantly, that his body is worth nothing, that a few more scars mean nothing if he obeys his order. daddy’s blunt little instrument indeed.
dean is comfortable in his own body because he doesn’t place value on his own life. it’s why he’s so nonchalant about sex. he’s using his body to make himself feel good, and make others feel good, so he doesn’t see the problem. sam teases him about being a horndog but dean genuinely doesn’t care about what happens to him. it’s not just with sex. he constantly sacrifices himself, he’ll put himself in harms way instantly if it means saving someone he loves. he complains about his physical appearance but never once hesitates to disfigure it if it means someone else will be saved the misfortune.
sam, on the other hand, has a different understanding of his body. he doesn’t fit inside of it. his entire life, he’s been the odd one out, the wrong one, the one who just couldn’t conform. he fights with his father about hunting. he has demon blood in him. he’s lucifer’s vessel. he’s an abomination, he’s damned, his very flesh and blood is something rotten. he doesn’t see any purpose in his existence so he tries to find value in his body, because he doesn’t think there’s anything of value in his soul.
this isn’t even mentioning sam’s past with manipulation. both dean and john most definitely manipulated sam in the past, even if it was from a place of good will to keep him safe. john lied about mary’s deal his entire life. dean keeps plenty of secrets, like the demon deal and john’s last words, under the guise that it would hurt sam. sam’s entire life was a lie, all a buildup to the apocalypse. the first woman he ever loved died on the ceiling just like his mother, and he was convinced it was his fault both times. sam has been taught that he hurts everyone he loves. that’s he’s intrinsically dangerous and he curses the people close to him to suffering, or death, or worse.
sam has a difficult relationship with sex because he’s scared. scared to trust someone with something so intimate and scared that he’ll infect them with whatever awful thing is inside of him. this is why ruby’s arc is so heartbreaking. dean can immediately recognize that sam is being taken advantage of. he has a very black and white understanding of who is good and trustworthy vs who is evil and a monster. sam, on the other hand, knows that it isn’t so cut and dry. he still loves dean, even though he isn’t always the best to him. he still cares for his dad, even if he wants sam dead. he still wants to believe in a higher power, even though he’s cursed. so of course sam trusted ruby. he’s an abuse victim. he’s vulnerable. he was at his wits end, and ruby took that to her advantage. she victim blamed him. gaslit him. took advantage of his need for emotional intimacy and sexually assaulted him.
dean can’t understand sam’s aversion to sex because he sees it as a purely materialistic thing, and his body a mere object. his relationship with romance is so horribly warped. dean doesn’t care about being taken advantage of, because his whole life his father’s taken advantage of his obedience. he’s just a means to end. it doesn’t matter what happens to his body, because he doesn’t matter anyway.
sam can’t understand dean’s hypersexuality because he’s hyperfixated on having control of himself. he desperately wants to regain some sense of ownership of his body. he hates intimacy because it opens him up to vulnerability. to him, his body is diseased, and it’s a danger to anyone who he’s intimate with.
dean sees sex as self-hating pleasure, a way to be useful. sam sees sex as self-hating punishment. in a certain way, they’re more similar than the show makes them out to be.
#oc#sam winchester#dean winchester#john winchester#spn meta#spn#supernatural#essay#tw sa mention#this got so long#it was originally just about sam’s aversion to sex but i think dean’s obsession with it is just as telling.#part of it was the way they grew up#dean was forced to be strong and take it like a man#sam was allowed to be vulnerable but was constantly shamed for being diferent#idk. idk man. just more deranged ramblings.
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I've heard several times now that supernatural was made by white men for white men and I just. Don't. Understand that. I've seen shows made for white men or just men in general. And supernatural is not at all like them. I honestly think supernatural was made for teens. The humor and the heart are just not at all what you will find in media targeting grown men. Supernatural is about brotherly love. And while a lot of media geared towards men is also about that, supernatural comes at it in a very different way. Instead of it being about two men becoming brothers through adversity and always knowing their place with each other and hardly ever talking to each other about their relationship, supernatural is about two brothers who start off super close and work on their relationship so they can both be happy in it. The whole show is them learning how to be better for each other. These men cry every other episode, and several main plot points revolve around them not communicating well. Instead of reinforcing the "dont speak about feelings cuz that's weak" trope so common in typical male media, supernatural activity demonizes that. It shows how unhealthy it is to bottle emotions. It shows that it actually destroys relationships if you dont talk about how you're feeling. Again, something you would want a teen to see. This show is not trying to be a manly show for manly men. It is a character/relationship study of how these two brothers grow into a relationship that is best for them. Not to say that this was always pulled off perfectly, but that was always the point and theme of the show.
#i just do not understand the idea that just because it follows two kind of butch men it has to be targeting butch men#the fan base of this show is like 80% women#women who mostly grew up with the show#i really do think its a teen show#and if the leads didnt happen to be 40 year old men i think that would be a more widely accepted category#not to say that adults cant enjoy the show obviously#i enjoy the hell out of pixar movies and thos are technically kid movies#supernatural#spn#dean winchester#sam winchester#castiel
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S4 E3 Supernatural
Now THIS is a good episode. Castiel took Dean back in time to 1973! We find out Sam and Dean's maternal grandparents, Samuel and Deanna Campbell, and Mary are hunters. On top of that, Azazel is playing match maker so he can have his little psychic children be the best of the best, and he made a deal with Mary to revive John after he killed him. Also as if Azazel hasn't killed enough of Sam & Dean's family they killed Samuel and Deanna too. Oh this is so interesting, then Castiel taking Dean back, saying destiny can't be changed but Sam is going down a dark path and either Dean stops him or angels do.
#notable lines are. Mary about John:#he's sweet. kind. even after the war after everything he still believes in happily ever after. you know. He's everything a hunter isn't.#like damn this is the same man that turned his kids into child soldiers? hmmmm#supernatural#dean winchester#sam winchester#then Mary saying:#You know the worst thing I can think of? The very worst thing. If for my children to be raised into this like I was.#Well I won't let it happen.#AHHHHHHHHHH and Dean's look is so AHHHHHHHH🙃#his mom would HATE how he grew up. if she was buried shed be spinning in her coffin ⚰#mary winchester#mary campbell#john winchester#samuel campbell#deanna campbell#and she named her kids after her parents 😭😭😭😭😭 AHHHHHH#castiel#Castiel saying if Dean changes the future all the people they will die cus you weren't hunters to save them like in Deans Jinn hallucinatio#batcavescolony watches supernatural#batcavescolony watches#on a lighter note. john almost didn't pick the Impala. imagine the show but its a Voltzwagen instead.... 🙂#and we got to see dean struggle with the lack of technology which is funny cus the high tech equipment he uses now is dated to me in 2024 💀#supernatural s4#spn
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image I.D. below the cut
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[a promotional picture of Sam and Dean Winchester, Sam on the left and Dean on the right, their images from circa 2010. They both stare challengingly into the camera with their arms crossed, though Dean also holds a large blade. The background is a two lane blacktop with an older style of power line and corn on either side. At the top and bottom are flames. Sam says "im restricting", Dean says "and im bingeing" and the flaming text gif at the bottom reads "the eating disorder brothers.]
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#theyre both so unwell#grew up in a financially unstable environment and coped opposite ways.#and i left it broad on purpose bc theres a lot of ways you can interpret their weird shit about food#bc i too am deeply unwell i counted every time sam eats on screen (not sits next to a plate of food–actually puts it in his mouth) and its#22 times. less than twice a season. i realize this could be in large part bc jared didnt want to have to act that but im choosing to Believe#not in him but my mentally ill agenda. bc you wanna look at me and say that hes totally normal aboht this when he has a guilt complex#autonomy issues a holdup with purity/cleanliness a boatload of self-loathing and an obsession with control.#and this feels familiar so just message or comment for credit or removal :)#i dont mean to plagiarize#also i didnt talk about it much but. dean definitely sees food as an assurance of safety and turns to it when under duress to the point of#excess. and also gets very specific and protective/territorial about his food.#so.#this is a silly meme but there are so many thoughts behind it#sam winchester#dean winchester#spn#ed mention
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#spn#he is SHOCKINGLY good at communicating for someone who grew up with only john and dean winchester to look up to#like im so sorry you're trapped with him baby girl . ur stronger than me i wouldve screamed my head off at him several eps ago#which in dean's head would justify him behaving the way he has which would make me Certifiably Insane#this relationship makes me want to rip all my hair out lmao it's so stressful to watch#5.05
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slowly going feral over the idea of an spn x tma crossover where tfw get dropped into tma universe. like. the potential that holds.
every time there's a problem, the three of them, in unison, offer "grenade launcher" as a solution (bc lbr even though dean's the one who was super gung-ho abt it sam was also very interested in that one ep and cas would obv go along with it bc he's cas)
the winchesters get roped into working at the institute and cas is js always around and jonah tries to tell them that it's "unprofessional" and "inappropriate" to have someone who's not an employee hanging around like that and they're both just like "tf you gonna do bitch? fire us?" with sam giving jonah such an intense bitchface that it physically hurts him
also the idea of daisy trying to interrogate/intimidate the fuckers who've died multiple times, been wanted for mass murder that they didn't commit, and fistfought god is js unreasonably funny to me
#like#sam and dean are probably so used to the cops atm#that they're just#chill the entire time#esp bc they realise that it's getting on her nerves#and cas would just agressively squint at her until the end of time#also like#the archive employees are all still more or less regular people#meanwhile cas is a whole ass angel#and the winchesters grew up hunters#so i js love the idea of tfw providing the most batshit ideas ever#and the others who aren't used to them and their tendencies yet are js like#????? are you???? ok???? sane???? in the right frame of mind?????#idk it's silly but a tma spn crossover makes me ridiculously happy#spn#supernatural#dean winchester#sam winchester#castiel#team free will#tma#the magnus archives
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why didn't anyone make a destiel meme about spn possibly coming back i can't believe i had to find out about this the normal way
#destiel#spn#supernatural#also dear god why won't you let this show DIE?#it's almost funny that the characters that kept being brought back to life against their will#are part of a show that keeps coming back to life against everyone's will#did you read that?? ALMOST#listen i love spn so much i grew up with this show it is so special to me and recently i've been getting full on obsessed with it again#BUT IT'S OVER LET IT DIE#the ending was absolute shit so just leave it as it is#stop trying to add on to it “the winchesters” made it clear that it doesn't work#just please leave spn alone you guys have fucked it over again and again after season six just let it REST#that said yes i will at least try to watch if it does come back#but i couldn't get through the first few minutes of “the winchesters” so possibly the same thing will happen again
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a lot of my thoughts about dean winchester come down to the fact that he really is just eternally about fourteen years old. and not a well-adjusted 14 year old, either, but a traumatised and abused 14 year old with intense attachment and abandonment issues. he was that 14 year old! and hes never grown past it. hes probably more like it now and more controlled by it than he WAS when he was 14 years old. so i cant help but feel unbearably sad for him. but sadly, he is not 14 years old. he is an adult man in positions of power reenacting abusive behaviours. idk how to fix him. hed have to really and genuinely want to change idk what it would take. he should do dbt though
#therapy is not a fix all and i dont think sitting around talking about his childhood would make dean any better#but idk. dbt skills would help. tipp. check the facts. opposite action.#spn#dean winchester#oliver talks#i was also a similar 14 year old but i got past it because like. i grew up and left situations trapping me in a loop. dean literally never#left home aged 26 his dad just walked out to get the milk and then later died and then spent the rest of his life tied to his brother#keeping him in the same damn cycle
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jack one day into this fiasco: oh! i can be their baby for a little bit! it might be nice to be taken care of!
jack one month into it: If I’m Not Treated Like The Adult I Am In Five Minutes, I’m Going To Kill Everyone In This Room
#he’s going to start biting and killing if he’s infantalized (literally) any longer.#he grew up too fast was not an invitation to take his growth away#(he actually tried to stop this whole thing after the first few days by turning back but cas got depressed and upset (not in a manipulative#way just. a ‘he wanted a baby so bad’ way. and then jack. i mean he wanted to be wanted. even if not as himself. just a little while longer.#but the love isn’t for *him* but for an idea of him that he hates playing. therefore: biting and murder.)#jack kline#spn#anti domestic destiel au
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"are you under the impression that family is supposed to make you feel good? [...] they're supposed to make you feel miserable that's why they're family!"
—bobby singer, season 4 episode 22
#god hearing bobby talk about the values of family meant so much to me#as a kid his words really grounded me#family dont end in blood#kids are supposed to be ungrateful#i still rely on all of his speaches to this day#truly lifechanging#as someone who grew up in a broken home#destielsmixtape spn rewatch#spn 4x22#supernatural#bobby singer
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