#i dont want to be an asshole and make assumptions but i also dont want to waste my breath when i have

[aetherphobia]

Y'know what? I feel like throwing myself to the wolves today.

Hello Danganronpa fandom! I would like to hear unbiased opinions, please. Emphasis on unbiased.

In my opinion, V3 was honestly one of the weaker games of the franchise. And our resident asshole (/lighthearted) of the game, Kokichi, is believe it or not, not a perfectly written character.

Please do not come onto this post calling me a dumbass that is falling for "propaganda." I know his plan was to end the killing game the whole time. The problem is that he doesn't have a solid motive to do so. At least not one that is clear to the viewers. His plan may have been to checkmate the mastermind, but his plan seems to fall apart when you realize he has no proof Monokuma would end the killing game. He’s doing this massive elaborate plan, assuming Monokuma won’t just pick a random person to execute so the game can continue. Because fundamentally, this game is unfair. Kokichi assuming Monokuma would play fair makes his plan just seem redundant, as well put together as it may have been. A buddy of mine posted a similar opinion a couple days ago and got absolutely dogpiled because she wasn't absolutely praising the hydrologic press that he was crushed in (too soon? Nah it's been four years it's fine). In fact, one of the points made above was one I directly copy pasted got from her in specific and I took so that you as the readers could hear her without her getting all the notifications. will not be stating any names out of my respect and care for this friend. But for the love of god, don't dogpile anyone for their opinions.

The purpose of this post is to hear outsider, completely unbiased opinions about Kokichi as a character. So when replying to this post, take those biases and lock them away in a safe. You don't need to throw them away entirely, just put them away until you hit the post button. Info dump to me and clearly point out what exactly his motive was, based entirely on the context clues of the game. What are things that are clear as day? What can be read in between the lines? Why did he want to end the killing game? What was his motive? If you think you know the motive, explain to me what I apparently missed and when it happened. Provide me proof and screenshots. Just all around make it make sense without using profanity and calling me an imbecile for not understanding something that was not written in a way that was clear. I dont not want those kinds of responses, as they really do not help. And as lightheartedly as possible, calling me names in the replies over something like this really doesn't provide me with a reason to take your word for it.

And hey! If you agree with me, I would also genuinely love to hear your personal take on the whole thing and what you think could've been done better with his character. What are your ideas? What do you think would've been really cool and interesting if it had been implemented?

I do not condone the way a lot of you handled my friend's post. So please do not talk to me the same way. Please come in to this post with the assumption that I have already completed the game and I already know what happened.

I humbly await for your perspectives.

[bbboar]

Replayed Francesco's route choosing the asshole options to get more info out of him and its further cementing my assumptions about him.

So he confirms that his family comes from a line of very successful business owners and that he is due to take charge of several new branches of the business. As a result, it's implied he is under a lot of pressure to be the perfect son in order to meet his family's expectations. I dont think its unreasonable to assume that he was probably raised with the expectation of following in his family's footsteps, whether he likes it or not.

My theory is that the reason hes under the mountain is that his usually strict family has given him a small period of freedom to get whatever he needs out of his system before he has to take the mantle of responsibility. They're not happy about it , but if it means he will calm down, behave, and then come home to fulfill his rightful duties, they will begrudgingly tolerate it.

This, of course, gives Francesco a time constraint to experience everything he possibly can in a short amount of time. As a result hes enthusiastic, eager and kind of reckless. (That and hes written like an eager new sub)

Also it makes me think: given how forward Francesco is about so many aspects of himself, i wonder if hes being secretive about his family and their business bcs theres something shady doing on? Or at the very least something that he is afraid will make Vesper look at him differently.

Maybe his family is in organised crime or something. Or maybe they got rich through exploitation. What if they're buying and demanding a supply of lunar ichor? What is they are participating in human trafficking and indented servitude? He could also be a literal prince or duke for all we know.

Anyway considering the overall tone of the game and setting im rly hoping there are some darker elements to bright sunny Francesco's route, but that remains to be seen.

EDIT: I wanted to say that i think @/dreamtydraws' theory is very plausible and it made me rethink parts of my theory but i didnt want to edit anything from the OG post so im putting it here

[kaddyssammlung]

Im the stc lore anon. Im very aware of the old interviews. In fact thats exactly part of why i get so frustrated with the fan interpretations of lore. Because its one of the things in my view that debunks the romance about sleep theories. Its just very frustrating feeling so strongly about my theory the fan lore is not canon while seemingly most of the fandom assumes the fan lore is absolutely 100 percent canon and just needs some more puzzle pieces to unluck the True Story. I used to believe the fanmade lore, but i no longer can do so especially when ive seen various bits of concerning behavior in the fandom where i think people take it wayyy too far. I think the only "canon" interpretation of the lyrics is the real person behind the masks life story, otherwise theres no "canon" and we are supposed to do whatever we want. But i think things have just gotten wayyy out of control with the its about a romance with sleep theory. What makes me actually hate it is how much people insist the people on stage are "characters" (i regularly see disclaimers saying "dont worry im just talking about the characters not the real people" when i really dont think they are "characters" in the way people think... this is not an anti fanfic/shipping/headcanon about real people stance btw i dont care about that as long as you dont go too far, i just dont like the insistence theyre "characters" because that feels so dehumanizing) and how rude people are if you dont agree with the fanlore (the vitriol aimed at alternate interpretations is really disgusting, especially the "why are sexualizing the lyrics, youre a bad person" crowds vitriol and insistence theyre the Good Fans while if you dont agree you deserve awful things). Otherwise, i just get *personally* annoyed with how often i come across the "its totally canon that its about sleep theories" when i dont want to *personally* hear those theories at all. I hope im making sense, and maybe im being an asshole in how im expressing my views idk. I just really feel like an outsider in this fandom and get so happy when i come across people who actually agree with me because it makes me feel less alone and like im not stupid or whatever. Just have fun, let the music mean something special to you, and remember the band (and their fans for that matter, going back to the vitriol thing) are human beings, thats what ultimately matters. I just think the lore as the fans see it has gotten into concerning territory. Wont leave any more anons about this for now because i dont want to drag this out more, i just saw your replies/post and wanted to respond in hopes what im trying to say will finally come out right (im not always the best with words, im very blunt, im very opinionated, etc)

Good Morning or Guten Morgen or Happy Timezone

I get your point and I don't think that you're an asshole.

I think you are struggling with something that many struggle and the fans that you call out also struggle with that: it's acceptance. Or accepting what is; in that case it's fan's who act a certain way or have different opinions or see things in a different way.

Acceptance is a mastery. It's something that is very hard to achieve.

Your situation reminds me of something that I could not accept for a long time in that fandom. So I'm going to talk about that.

This will probably be a long post so I'm hiding this and also mental health topics will come up.

I always had this assumption that everyone could see what I see when I look at Vessel. I'm talking concerts photos and “peeled Vessel” and the things that get revealed when the paint comes down. To me his scars are one of the few things that I can observe and so can everyone else, right?! There are so many even the ones from a certain attempt on both his right and his left forearm.

Well...right?! They are right in your face....

No! They are right in my face. I got into weird arguments about this topic. Which is a weird thing to argue about because this topic is a very painful one and also a strange one. There is a giant stigma around it. There are even “mental health professionals” on YouTube who refuse to talk about that topic and pretend that it does not exist because YouTube does not like these topics. It's a weird topic.

But it was exactly that what got me into the lyrics so much. I wanted to figure out the story behind what I could see.

All I found was myself and the parts of me that I denied that even existed. I stopped searching for the story and started to face myself instead.

I found a great new spiritual teacher because of that. She teaches acceptance and also sacred neutrality.

It's been almost a year now with her teachings and me finally accepting that not everyone can see what I see when I look at Vessel.

There will always be humans out there who call all of this an assumption. To them he did not self-harm and does not have scars from a certain attempt. To them that's an assumption while for me it's a fact.

Those fans are not worse then me and I'm not better then them. I can accept that they just have a different view on everything.

It's the same with lore interpretations or the way that some treat them in a (your words) dehumanizing way.

I can accept all that I just don't read it or interact with them. I let them have their view on things and I have my weird view on things.

I argued with fans that said things like: I don't even like their music or listen to their music but....

They are a thing, too btw.

When it comes to Sleep btw. To me it's an entity. They are very real btw. I learned how to deal with them, too. But I can totally understand that many humans out there just don't get topics like entities or idk...I mean I saw fairy-like beings right in front of me one day. 99% of humans would probably just say that I just made this up. I can understand that or rather I learned how to accept that.

When I first heard about Sleep I thought about that day and the fairies. I just thought...maybe that guy is a bit weird like me?!

We all had different experiences that shaped us. And also some fans really are just 14.

One of the reasons why I left the big Discord for example was because they allow all ages. I had an argument with a nine year old! That's when my alarm bells came online and I thought to myself: no...not okay! Some fans act a certain way because they are actual kids.

Like I said....I found a place within me to accept all that.

But it took a lot of facing myself to find that acceptance. And it's a process that is on-going.

Maybe this helps you...maybe not....maybe it clarifies something...maybe not.

I'm learning everything from her btw. It's energy work....energy work means you work with your soul, your higher self, higher dimensional beings....all theses things.

One thing that I forgot....accepting something and agreeing with it is not the same thing. I can totally disagree but still accept that something.

[marzipanandminutiae]

Here is the original mcmansion renovation post if you would like to see the urls and do your own searching. I dont know who the second censored url is, I saw a different reblog chain.

https://www.tumblr.com/kweza/719229017030541312

I suppose the censoring is to prevent dog piling or accusations of whatever it is drama blogs like to do, but it feels like a silly thing to then in the same post point out how obvious the trad wives are.

I personally find it more shocking that people apparently thought a landlord did that. In my experience, when I landlord buy an old victorian they dont intend to also live in, they MIGHT renovate enough to local legal regulation standards. But usually they just assume the previous owner had done enough modernizing and then proceed to slap some landlord paint on everything including radiators, door hinges, and light switches.

Thank you! One of my friends also found it for me.

And yeah, like I said, without the URl the takeaway becomes "look at this obvious tradwife [based on the views expressed in the post and nothing else]!" Which can lead to some Unfortunate Assumptions about anyone who agrees with that ONE SPECIFIC POST she made

(seriously my ex-girlfriend/current friend reblogged the original post, and she's a leftist queer law student presently in a polyamorous relationship)

as for landlords...it depends in my experience. they tended to do more back when the houses were truly untouched, usually in the 1930s-1980s. most of those apartments I mentioned having lived in, while not Victorian- but then, neither was the house in the original post -had been extensively renovated before my landlords ever entered the picture. it also depends on who they're trying to rent to. a landlord might overhaul a house more extensively if they're planning to rent to wealthy tenants, in some places

of course, flippers are a BIG part of the problem. there's a demographic with the "don't give a shit" attitude of landlords and the "want to give this the most generic/currently trendy appeal possible" and money of rich asshole private owners with popular Instagram accounts. make it look Hip and do it cheaply- the worst of both worlds

at least a private homeowner could be persuaded to just buy a new house. a flipper wants to get the cheapest house possible (often an old house) and pour their budget into hyper-modernizing it

now, I WILL blame landlords (or property management companies) for the soulless look of new buildings. they want the broadest possible appeal, with as many corners cut as possible. ergo, open-concept glass tower apartments with everything white and crap quality inside. fun.

[stateswscarlet]

i want to have foundational beliefs that i will always have within all realities so that i never struggle, so that im never trapped or stuck in any place, circumstance, reality, ever again and its always a choice if i want to experience something or not.

i know how would i act if this is true, but i feel that requires acting in the 3D because..

i just cant believe imagination creates reality. or that imagination is real. i want it in the 3D not in the 4D that is what would fulfill me. i understand that this is a state but it feels so hard. i’ve read everything about states, but the fact that remains and what is stopping me from letting go is the fact that i only see imagination as imaginary, and thats why i believe the 3D can only fulfill me.

ive tried to ignore these thoughts but that doesn’t help.

i just need some ideas and help on how to let go of the idea (or state) that imagination isn’t real, please. what helped you? what would u reccomend for me?

im sorry but i cant make you have faith in imagination or make you trust imagination, that is something you need to figure out for yourself. look at your past and your past states and how things played out then, everything started with a state/assumption and you can realize going back that things you never told anyone played out, imaginary arguments became physical, etc. you also need to understand that things being in the 3D (obviously not life and death things like food, etc) DO NOT fulfill you and they DID NOT in the past either. if that was the case you would be forever 100% happy bc youd be fulfilled with everything in your life. you dont want it in the 3D, you only want what you THINK it will make you FEEL. for example if someones sp came back but was an asshole, do you think they still want them? why not, they came back and their body is with them like they wanted in the 3D? so why are they upset? because their 3D sp IS NOT fulfilling them and they DONT care about it despite it being in the 3D.

for ALL of your desires, you WOULD NOT WANT THEM if they did not CHANGE HOW YOU FELT. that is ALL youre doing rn, simply feeling and identifying with the inner version of you who DOES Have it in imagination. read this and this

[vriskabot]

davris morning routine hcs?

YOU CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD I WAS PLAYING MINECRAFT cracks my knuckles. this kinda turned into sleeping habit and self care hcs as a whole sorry not sorry -vriska is not a night owl or a morning person but she IS a long and heavy sleeper. do not wake her up before she is good and ready or you WILL get torn a new asshole bare minimum. if the verbal lashing does not work she will escalate immediately and directly to grievous bodily harm -dave is probably the only person who can manage this without dying but even THEN he would much rather get on her ass about going to sleep on time than get on her ass about getting up in the morning -dave is a much lighter sleeper and honestly naturally a nap guy. i think on a genetic level the strilondes dont sleep long even when they DO manage to sleep (dirk and rose are notorious insomniacs) but i dont think dave really minds it -nobody knows when he sleeps but he does! hes just Constantly Around -this was only further reinforced by living with bro and being trained and all that jazz so daves sort of got a built in alarm clock (lol time player) -in that vein dave can kinda predict when vriska is gonna be up based on what time shes gone to sleep so he can be in and out of the bathroom before she needs to be in there which is. a very very good thing -i think dave was a lot more anal (and anxious) about what he looked like when he was a teen (to the point of being unable to leave the house if his hair wasnt JUST right) but hes way more lax about it now -that being said i also dont think hes gone fully curly girl now that hes okay with his hair having a single iota of texture whatsoever. he just combs it into the style he wants it to dry in and lets nature take the wheel after that (its very soft and vriska LOVES to touch and tousle it) -he MAYBE uses a light pomade while wet if anything but thats only if he NEEDS his hair to stay nice all day -vriska on the other hand. woo buddy. -depending on how im feeling about her styling, shes either full 17 step curly hair routine or blowdried + straightened + hairsprayed until its crunchy even if her hair is naturally already straight -like im sorry shes SO emo -i think a lot of that stemmed from the sort of persona she put on to protect herself that ended up becoming her taste Anyway -the full face of makeup + done hair carries a very Intentional feeling that makes her seem a little less off the wall, has-no-clue-what-shes-doing than she really IS -ultimately its about control! having more control over the interpersonal dynamics and the flow of things based on the kind of assumptions people make about her based on the way she presents herself -dave was doing his similarly insane hair routine at 13 14 15 for the same exact reasons -dont let her fool you though its all smoke and mirrors -when she was in her teens it was definitely a full coverage foundation + powder foundation + pencil liner for EVERYTHING situation and loads of dark eyeshadow -in her adulthood though i think shed be alright with like. a much more lightweight base like bbcream or even just concealer in spots for daily wear and she saves the full face beat for more special occasions like dates and shit -as much as i think dave finds later on in life that he actually kinda enjoys cooking, hes not up making a Full Breakfast every day -theyre both perfectly fine with like. toast and microwave breakfast sausage to eat -vriska however is not to be trusted with the stove. she sucks SO bad at cooking save for the few dishes shes ruined enough times that shes got the experience to do it right -both of them are horrible caffeine fiends. they will drink soda or energy drinks with breakfast and then wonder why their fucking stomachs hurt later -i think in the case of NEEDING caffeine vriska is much more varied in her intake sources--energy drinks, soda, coffee, and tea are all viable options depending on how much energy she feels she needs -dave though... he feels like the "starts with an energy drink and only drinks other stuff when he has a craving" kinda guy

-though maybe thats the raging adhd you tell me -their bed is almost never ever made and both of them live in organized chaos. whether or not they ENJOY the chaos is a different story entirely -vriska is a blanket hog AND a pillow hog so they eventually had to settle on each having their own blankets -vriska loathes mint toothpaste and dave is a cinnamon toothpaste guy so you can imagine how much of a eureka moment vriska had the first time she spent the night -and yes that means she was just bearing with the mint because she had no clue there was any other option -uhhhhh i cant think of much else more on this topic i hope u enjoyed <3

[aita-blorbos]

Am I the asshole for refusing to help rescue my friends' kidnapped baby because the friends are my parents and the baby was me?

Title says it all.

I (132F) was kidnapped at birth and raised in a cult to be programmed to kill a specific man on sight (didn't work and I'm now married to him). Then when I was able to get away from them, I traveled back in time to grow up alongside my parents as a same-age friend under a secret identity, and then after a while I got a new body and a new secret identity and ended up befriending them again without them knowing I was the same person as their friend and also their daughter. Also from their perspective, I hadn't been born yet. Time travel.

Anyway, my birth has finally happened, and earlier today my dad (25M) showed up in the prison where I live (I'm in prison for murder but like I break out all the time so its not really a big deal) and asked me to help rescue his wife / my mother (25F) who'd been kidnapped with their baby (me). He tried to say that he really needed me to help but like, I already know the baby won't be rescued because I was the baby. So it just seemed pointless to go and fight in a battle when I already know we're going to lose, I'd just be putting myself in harm's way for nothing.

And on top of that, I just sort of really didn't want to go? Like, it was my birthday (hence the whole me-being-born thing). I'd just gotten home (back to prison) from my birthday date and I was really tired, and I'd had a good day and I didn't want to ruin it by fighting in some battle that would only depress me. So I told my dad that I couldn't come help, because this was the day for my husband (1023M) to find out who I am and that meant I couldn't be with him until the end. And then my dad got kind of offended and left. AITA?

edit: everyone please stop commenting on me being older than my parents. i already established there was time travel involved i dont get why that part surprises you so much

edit 2: Guys, you can't vote YTA just because I mentioned being in prison for murder. It's barely relevant to the story and you don't have any of the context. For all you know I was framed, or it was self-defense, but of course you all just love making assumptions.

edit 3: For the record I've now been pardoned because it was found the man I murdered never existed. He's still alive, by the way. We're also married.

(Taken from Fanfiction by @harps17)

[safe-ship]

Heads up about the safeship creator everyone, they refuse to provide accessibility to screen readers despite being asked to multiple times & is generally ableist. Below are some screenshots + a transcript of a really long paragraph rant went on.

Context: An anon asked her to stop using ! and 0s to censor proship related things. This was her response:

Context: The same anon sends another ask that the OP screenshotted. (I cannot find the post as it seems she either deleted it or Tumblr's search feature is funky)

Their response is copied + pasted below. Content warning for NSFW mentions, sexual harassment (of the anon), and guilt tripping.

Listen dude i do know better you fucking insufferable misinformed prick. I myself need readability accessibility with ny fucking aphasia that is only getting worse. I already know firsthand how little people give a shit about this stuff becuz i need it. I already have difficulty writing legibly okay. And i get a lot of shit over this disability that i dont deserve. I made this fucking tag to help others to the point that i dont even block the few people weve had problems with so that even if i have to sed it at least the tag will work well for others. So if i have to put a 0 and ! In the forbidden word to decrease how much extra stress is gonna be on me from putting it straight up on their dinner plates then im fucking going to. Why dont you get off your high horse and grow the fuck up and stop making fucking assumptions. Cause im doing a hell of a lot more of kindness and effort for accessibility than you are for saying its immoral for someone WHO NEEDS screendreaders and is ashamed about it to choose a fucking single exclammation point over getting the regular bullshit i put up with from people who wanna be pedos x100 so that you can feel good abt yourself becuz u would choose the latter. Whether ur also a screenreader needer or not what you are is a fuvking asshole becuz i literally have two spine surgeries voming up with a huge threat of bevoming a paraplegic or dead before then and i have a shortened lifespan from all my disabilities. I come into this community to cope with how shit my life is and i try to make it better for others no matter if its a little harder on me and i get nothin but disrespect from invasive and presumptuous assholes like u behind anon who dont wanna have a real vonversation with me or actually think abt anyone but yourself and how good it feels to stroke ur moral dick over the dying woman and i have had it up to here!

U guys wanna keep coming in my inbox being assholes to me? No nuance in life im a bitch? So little thanks nothing but pussies on anon talking shit or invading my privacy? Maybe someone the fuck else should try and run this ship then becuz im fed the hell up and abt to deactivate.

And even despite being told twice to provide accessibility, they continues to be inaccessible even excluding shipcourse.

And in regards to more of their ableism, they told someone to "develop a frontal lobe" which is harmful towards those with intellectual disabilities. For context: calicofemme was their old main.

Anyway, do what you will with this information. If anyone wants to add more things to this regarding her behavior, go ahead & I'll reblog it. I made this post to raise awareness of how the creator is harmful and shouldn't even be in this community because of how they go entirely against their motive for making it.

[terraliensvent]

multiple ppl close to kinah were able to verify that they were in the hospital recovering when the attempt happened. all of those ppl could not collab and lie so one person could get “extra attention” in ur words. Im frustrated with terra staff aswell but that doesn’t mean its ok now to call someones suicide attempt fake so ur feelings seem more valid. I find that extremely sickening. U have zero evidence or good reason for doubt or else u would have vented about it already. all u have is ur feefees. u do need therapy. And mod pls stop validating baseless speculation on smth so serious. what happened 2 people needing proof for claims like this

alright yeah im deleting kinah asks now

first off i dont think that people should just believe whatever they read on the internet, because you dont know who these people are irl. again, thats not to say that you shouldnt give support where you can or that you should make public callouts saying that it was all fake when you dont know for sure, BUT at the same time theres a level of speculation regardless because its the fucking internet. people are wild, people are strangers, and there is a non zero chance that people could have lied. just because people have a level of speculation on something they read online, that doesnt mean they need therapy and it doesnt mean theyre a bad person, it means they have a brain. if YOU want to believe it without a shadow of a doubt then thats fine, and if other people have some doubt thats also fine, just dont go out of your way to fucking bother people because thats just unnecessary.

second off, i need proof for accusations like “so and so is posting feral” or “so and so is an abuser,” saying things like “the way that kinah bounced back into cs makes me speculate” isnt an accusation.

the views of the anons i post here arent reflective of my own views, and if something is a problem i give my own input on it in my response. when i created this blog i didnt want to delete asks because i feel like that controls a narrative and makes me an unreliable narrator when it comes to these discussions. if people want to talk about things like this, i didnt want to force silence because thats not how you hold a discussion.

as an additional note: anons have been becoming increasingly aggressive in my inbox, whether its towards one another or towards myself. i implore all of you to stop being so aggressive, stop making assumptions, and stop playing this holier than thou card. so much of the art and cs community is made up of people who will virtue signal and place themselves on a moral pedestal and my inbox is the last place for that. if you want to rant and complain, go ahead, but stop acting like youre better than each other because you have the Correct Opinion on everything and believe everything you read on the internet.

my final thoughts on this are as follows: there is a non zero chance that everyone is lying. is it a small chance? sure. does this mean we should spread the narrative that it was all fake? no. are you a horrible person who should die in a fire because you dont 100 percent believe that the attempts were real? no, but also dont go out of your way to be an asshole because of that belief. i think we should all publicly operate under the assumption that the attempts were real. if you want to privately speculate, go fucking wild. could kinah going back into cs and making stuff for terras possibly be bad for their mental health? maybe. but also, its none of our business. and thats what im ending this topic with, a lot of this shit really is just none of our business and i think you all give way too much of a fuck about someone who you will never know irl.

i dont dislike kinah, in fact i actually really liked them when they were on staff for terras. but at some point we all gotta throw our arms up and say why is this taking up so much of my brain power when this person is just someone i follow on fucking toyhouse.

we are done with asks about kinahs attempt now, unless anyone has important info or something new to say im deleting them.

[persephoneflouwers]

Thanks Angie for your reply, I appreciate it! I’m the pill anon (lol). To your questions what I would say is: yes, you have to be very stupid to have unprotected sex with a random American girlie. Or very intoxicated, or very troubled. Which he might have been all of those things, and that’s fine, he was entitled to make mistakes and be stupid even if he was in the biggest boyband in the world, that doesn’t make him immune to mistakes. If I remember those times in 2015, it’s not that farfetched to assume he might have been in a state of mind to do a stupid thing like this. Or maybe the condom broke and she lied about taking the day-after pill? Who knows, but we know now she’s a trump supporter hungry for fame, so…

When I said he might be trying to make the best out of the situation without us knowing, I meant in reference to all the bullshit we had to endure 2016/2017 like the pap walks or all the bs from Brianna and family (the staged picnic still haunts me). For what we know of Louis, we could assume he might have tried to stop it, create boundaries etc, but we don’t know the context in which those conversations where had and how much he had on his plate. The first years might have been VERY tough on him because 1) Brianna’s family is a mess and has very different beliefs from his, which must have not created the best environment and 2) what was going on with Jay (and then Fizzy) forced him to be in the UK most of his time, and coparenting with a person you dont like who lives across the world must not have been easy. In this specific context, I do think he must have tried to make the best of it, because for what we know of him I still believe this is more likely than for him to be faking it.

I would also argue that being a dad publicly did nothing to his career if not damage. I did understand the potential need (and commercial value) for a stunt like this closet-wise in 2015, but only if it would have stopped at rumours or if a denial of paternity came right after the birth. At this point, more than 7 years in, there’s clearly no commercial value to perpetuate it if it was a farce. It’d be actually a considerable cost for anyone who’s “sponsoring” this. Who’s paying the ‘actors’ involved? Louis? Why, to keep his closet safe? He has beards for that. Sony? Why would they still pay for this, to damage Louis? There are infinite ways they had to do so much more cost-effective (see: radio ban). Like, who would pay for something like this? I just can’t imagine anyone being willing to fake something like this. If you want to share your thoughts on this I am more than open to know what you think might be the dynamic.

And yes, I strongly agree with your last comment. I just believe he’s a good person, you know? It’s painful to see such a huge portion of his fanbase being so categorically “either it’s a stunt and he’s an asshole for dragging it for so long, or he is a dad and he’s asshole because he’s been a shit dad” which I mean, how do people even feel entitled to make assumptions on what kind of dad he might be? On how is life was these past years? Yes everyone can have opinions on what we are presented but maybe it’s not all black and white? Maybe we don’t *know* everything like we think we do? I just wish there was more chill and compassion in assessing the situation.

Anyways, thank you for the civil conversation, I know it’s a shitty controversial topic and my thoughts are definitely the minority around here, so thanks for listening and replying to me ✨

So many questions there… I kept answering in my head with the same answer and nobody would like it. I think the troubled guy character could have been possible if it wasn’t fake and manufactured. The party boy, like they call him, was purposely built out of nowhere and I know this because all the boys were manufactured and they’re entire images were painted on them with very talented brushes. They were (and are today) the products of a detailed marketing project imo. That’s why I can’t believe in “mistakes”. If it was a mistake, the so called oopsie baby, why haven’t they ever tried to put the rumours at rest? Usually a mistake is something you don’t want people to find out? A mistake is by definition something that went wrong and you are supposed to fix it. At worst, you pretend it has never happened lol but they pushed it and pushed it and pushed it. This baby was H I S baby even before he was ever conceived lol

I wont comment on the neglected child. I’m definitely not a supporter of that narrative fans tell themselves like it’s either fake or he’s a shitty father because it’s silly and makes really no sense for me. At the end of the day, we won’t ever know the truth so I don’t see what’s the point in fighting against each other. We should collectively agree this is SNAFU and call it a day hahah

[kienansidhe]

hey jsyk the ppl arguing about "oppression olympics" in ur notes are being silly and transmisogynistic, u were right the first time 😭😭 im def not arguing that the majority of tmascs have Social Male Privilege (bc thats very context dependent and a lot of tmascs dont have access 2 tht privilege) but. in specifically trans settings they have privilege over specifically tfems....

like number 1 piece of evidence is how many tfems r getting specifically transmisogynistic harassment from tmascs RIGHT NOW...... to the point that a lot of the big name tfems on the site are genuinely afraid to post about trans issues..... and like i DO think the majority of tmascs try not to weaponize that social power and are good allies 2 tfems (including u!), its just that the assholes are rlly vocal, BUT it is a rlly clear example of how that social power can and DOES exist in some measure.

(also i think saying tmascs NEVER EVER have male privilege is also silly since, like, it assumes that ppl will never ever pass or be seen as "real" men irl, which is kinda based on transphobic assumptions?)

NOT SAYING UR DOING THIS BTW im not upset w/ u trying to get good faith answers, u are doing great!!!! its just so frustrating that certain tmascs treat tfems so badly and then argue they dont have any power over tfems

ok love <3 local tgirl. solidarity forever

yeah i think i agree with all of this. rlly i just wish the bad actors in the transandrophobia tag would go away so we could talk abt it without making trans women scared that we are some kinda mras, you know? my original post was not to question whether transmascs have privilege over transfems, thats a foregone conclusion to me, i just wanted to know why talking abt transandrophobia is being seen as inherently transmisogynistic, which seems to boil down to the bad actors?

[moonchild-in-blue]

Hey its anon again. Thank you for the reply. I was angry and rambly, but i had just woken up and almost immediately saw takes that pissed me off so i went off lol. Its just very frustrating seeing people act so awful towards others for interpreting up to interpretation art differently. While discourse over whether or not the music is romantic/sexy is not the only discourse about how to interpret sleep token, it really seems to be what has the most vitriol aimed towards people over. As someone who does very much embrace the romantic/sexy elements of sleep token, it makes me feel very unwelcome in the fandom because im supposedly in many peoples eyes just a stupid horny fangirl who is not a real fan or is a terrible person or whatnot. I can acknowledge these elements and appreciate them on just a surface level in a given moment, while also diving deep into metaphors and double meanings or whatnot in other moments. One day ill be like "oh this song gives me unholy thoughts", another day ill deepdive into the tragic meanings, rinse and repeat. Thats the fun of sleep token in my eyes, its many things all at once and can give you so many totally different emotions depending on what angle in certain lighting you look at it in in a given moment. Hell, i find the idea that the romantic/sexy meanings are only surface level to be false, ive changed my perspective on some songs to see them as hornier than i realized once other people pointed it out so no i do not think sexual interpretations dumb the music down and i think it makes the music so much richer in meaning. (I also honestly dont hate the "baby making metal" thing, hell even one of their stage crew called sleep token "sexy metal", its such a nonissue to me that i dont get why people get so angry over it) I wish we could just stop with the "dont romanticize/sexualize sleep token!!" stuff, and just embrace mature nuanced discussion where we embrace the variety of experiences we have with the music. (And even in cases where people say a song like atlantic is sexy, like, okay, weird take but you do you as long as youre not being shitty to other fans or vessel) I also honestly dont think its wrong to speculate on vessels life. I do it a lot, i want to know what this music means to him since its obviously so personal to him and i admire the vulnerability in his lyrics and stage presence. I do think the whole thing fans do where theyre like "this music is definitely about this thing that im assuming happened irl so im gonna be shitty to people for disagreeing on my interpretation because i totally know without proof vessel would be offended" is shitty, but thats because its infantilizing to assume a grown man needs to be protected from people enjoying the romantic/sexy stuff he puts into his art and because its just otherwise shitty to treat people like shit over assumptions. But yeah, theres lots of nuance in sleep token. Its a really bizarre art project with the anonymity and little communication with fans, and it leads to lots of disagreements among fans for how to approach it. Im not perfect either, i can be a bitch too lol, but we can seriously do better as a fandom to handle the nuance (again, im not immune to being shitty! Im only human and all! But i still do get very upset with the fandom a lot because of my Hot Takes on various things). Thank you for your time, and again thank you to everyone who call people out on being assholes over different interpretations (this got rambly again but idk how to trim it down oops)

I'm not gonna comment further on this, cus honestly there's no point to drag this on and I'm tired, so! You do you anon, yay for music etc etc 👍

[roseworth]

Usually I'm all for characters in elseworlds being their own thing that's why I love the Arkham games too but in regards to robin lives I can't find myself classifying it as a completely elseworld story simply because it's too close to the main universe in the marketing and book itself they're trying to convince you that this story would have been what happened if people voted for Jason to live and I know they only had 4 issues to work with it still doesn't feel like the characters in particular Bruce I am with you I'd prefer if they wanted Jason to go full joker jr they should have as soon as he killed the Joker and I also just think they should have taken out the therapist entirely

(context) oo i mostly agree with this but i also kind of disagree....

i get where youre coming from that its harder to classify it as an elseworld since its supposedly a "what if" in main universe, and if it had been Egregiously out of character i would probably have more of an issue with it since its supposedly the same universe but different. but i dont think it was really ooc? like if we look back at ditf and everything happening in the starlin run, the characterization in the story made sense to me! like i said yesterday, it makes sense to me that jason would have a bit of a joker obsession for a bit since joker literally Just killed sheila and nearly killed jason. everything that jason did made sense to me in the context of the story and in the context of where he was in the 80s!! but i do agree with you that it didnt really feel like bruce,,, he seemed a bit too self aware. like you said they only had 4 issues to get through everything they wanted to do so i understand why but. yeah it was not bruce. it kinda felt like those fix it fanfics where bruce has to be a lot more emotionally intelligent than he actually is for the story to work. and i personally dont have a huge issue with that, im not a big fan of it but i understand why it happened

anyways. maybe im forgetting something significant but i dont feel like they really tried to present it as "what Actually would have happened" i think? maybe im wrong but i say this with so much love and in the nicest way possible. i think that some people made the assumption of what this book was going to be then got upset when their assumption was wrong. ppl seemed to assume that this was gonna be like a fix it fic when it was really just presented as an in-universe "what could have happened" story. i dont want to sound like an asshole but given the fact that the first thing we learn is that the joker dies at the end of the story, it seems pretty obvious that this was not what would've actually happened if the vote had let jason live. not to mention if jason had actually lived, there would've been like 40 years of a completely different universe, so just the fact that this story was only 4 issues long it immediately clicks the "one-off elseworld story" switch in my mind. maybe im wrong though! anyone can disagree with me here but thats just the vibe i got

but yeah thats why i would've been okay with the joker jr thing. its a different story with a different ending! in this case my elseworld thing is more that im okay with anything happening because weird choices dont affect main universe, so i would not be happy about jason being joker jr in main universe bc. what the fuck. but in this universe i wouldve been fine with it if it had actually been written in the story. i went on this whole rant yesterday so i wont do it again but the story just would've been so much better if the joker jr thing hadnt come from nowhere

and i sort of agree about removing the therapist? i think having an outsider perspective in the story and hearing the analysis along with everything bruce and jason said to the therapist was a good narration technique, but actually putting the therapist in the story made it weird. if we had just gotten the whole story using the therapist as the narrator and only had her pop up a couple times in the actual plot, it would've been so much better. making the therapist say that she fell in love with bruce and then they all became a family made it So weird. she shouldve just been the narrator. but also if she hadn't been there at all and there was just an omniscient narrator, it would've still made more sense (especially since death in the family was narrated by an omniscient narrator, so it would've kinda connected the two stories). so i get where youre coming from with removing her altogether. i didnt have a problem with her as the narrator but not much would've changed if it was just a faceless nameless narrator

[grimm-bot]

...p. pro-proship. what lmao. i don't think you know what that word means. "pro-proship" so antiship then. it's an antiship post

dude idk the terminology i dont like involving myself with that anti/proship crap. the post was abt dealin with assholes online, i jus didnt want a bunch of b/lld*p shippers down my throat again making assumptions

also its the magical girl flag from https://yourfaveisamagicalgirl.tumblr.com/

i like magical girls

chill

[astros-turf]

I don't know why my spouse @djjiahn gets so much anon hate for the most random shit ever.

Take this dummy for example:

Like bruh. Valentino has been in maybe like 3 of their hazbin posts. And only tagged because it bothers my spouse to not tag in case ppl need to blacklist. We hate him too cuz obviously, have you seen him?

It's "really telling" that this anon has no reading comprehension. I can't believe they truly think that tagging a character as existing in the post SO THAT PEOPLE CAN BLACKLIST IF THEY DONT WANT TO SEE/HEAR ABOUT HIM = liking a character.

God newbies to tumblr are so dumb lmao. Can't believe it's 2024 and people still think they can dictate what you put on your own blog, and also that people *STILL* haven't discovered the magical use of the ~block~ function.

My spouse is kinder than I am and so has ignored your dumbass, but if you'd like someone to shout at, feel free to come yell at my inbox where you'll also get ignored lmao but I will call your ass out! Also, because I have a feeling you stalk the Valentino tags, that's how I'm gonna tag this so you will probably find it lmao. Also, if you really wanna cosplay a tumblr circa 2016 SJW, go bother the roleplay blogs pretending to *BE* the abusive asshole. Weirdo lol

People like characters for all sorts of reasons. Maybe they hate the character but like his design. Maybe they themselves were abusive in the past and in seeing that behavior and how abhorrent it is in media, they were able to recognize how abusive they were being. Maybe it's the reverse and they're the Angel in this situation and seeing Valentino helped them recognize their own abusive relationship. Does that make him a good character? No. Does that mean you should attack people for liking anyone? Hell no. Should you discourage people from being like, acting like, or idolizing him? Absolutely. However, you have to be certain that that's what someone is doing, not making assumptions based on a random ass tag in a random ass reblog lmao. Grow up lol

[punyparkerfics]

This is an emotional hostage situation. Of course we're all going to say "Don't do it! We want you to live!" But none of us are prepared, trained, or capable of giving you the help you really need. You talked about this on your private twitter? I'm assuming you're not talking about TeddyBearOtto, so how is anyone supposed to know that a private account exists? I hope someone in your life recognizes where your emotional levels are at and gets you help, even if they have to Baker Act you to do so.

i wasnt talking about you guys, i was talking about my friends and family. i don’t expect anything from y’all. trust me, i learned the hard way that i’m on my own here. this ask might’ve been sent with good intentions but it’s pretty bold to take this approach. also, absolutely none of you know anything about me, my mental illnesses, or my life. lots of you made assumptions and have treated me accordingly and this is another instance of that. i’m not holding anyone hostage. if you truly think that lowly of me, feel free to ignore me like you all have this entire time. go back to my writing, look at the authors notes. i’ve been begging to be seen and heard for years. and now that im where i am and am as sick as i am, im being made into a bad guy.

this ask really highlights that you guys dont know me because this is truly the opposite of what i need, being fucking reprimanded for how i’m posting during the lowest point in my life. being told im holding people hostage. being told they hope i get fucking institutionalized. i never said i was going to do anything to myself, just that im dying. and, of course, that makes me an asshole.

whatever. y’all have made it clear. you don’t care about me, you just don’t like how uncomfortable this is making you. maybe imagine how the fuck i’m feeling as i feel the last flecks of my sanity be ripped from me.

whatever. you made your point. i’m the asshole. even if this is the first time people have reached out in the almost five years since i started posting regularly on ao3 about ME. they’ve had plenty to say about my writing and had lots and LOTS to demand from me. but whatever. i already know. i know.

thanks i guess