#i dont really miss being in the dsmp fandom

[crows-of-buckets]

One thing I do really miss about being in the dsmp fandom is the sheer amount of fan content there was like DAMN. I had like 20+ ongoing fics I was reading and each of them updated constantly so I always had fics to read. Even now I'm in a relatively popular fandom (genshin) I don't have nearly the amount of content (nothing against fic authors I love y'all and very much appreciate your work take as long as you need babes) but idk. The dsmp fandom just churned out content so fucking fast and consistently every other fandom feels oddly empty sometimes. Idk I just kinda miss it it was nice to have some fic update to read every night ://

[vanilla-dipped-donut]

sometimes I hear a significant song from a fandom I used to be in and it makes me want to scream and sob until I don't have any breath or tears left and I don't know why it feels so bad when back then, it felt so good.

[antimony-medusa]

hi saw your daddy kink post discussing the phenomenon of giving grown characters surrogate parental relationships, and I understand where you’re coming from, but i really feel like it’s just a matter of the circles you run in, and the assumptions that you might make because of that. you mention how platonic reads of these dynamics are more uncommon than kinky reads, which i just don’t think is the case, and I think that arguing that people don’t even realize that they’re writing a kink is a little bit bizarre, and sort of assumes that you know more abt them than they do by projecting your own experiences onto them.

it isn’t inherently sexual to crave protection or a parental relationship that you may have missed out on, and it is certainly not universal. in my own family, my “grandpa” isnt my biological grandfather (nor do I really consider him to be my grandfather), but he’s my mother’s surrogate father and has been since she was in her twenties. an adult. he sees her as a daughter. she sees him as a father. there’s absolutely nothing kinky about it. and anybody who automatically assumes that must have their mind deep, deep in the gutter and/or the stranger side of the Internet. really, i find it a bit of a strange argument to randomly post in the first place—as if it’s a problem that so many people enjoy non romantic and non sexual relationships, and that these people must, in fact, have a daddy kink that they are unaware of.

that said, i do absolutely agree that fans bringing any part of that into phil’s chat is weird and they should Not do that, and that infantilizing characters is also very weird, and personally i dont even see him as being father figure to anybody on that island except his eggs, wilbur, and MAYBE an argument could be made for tubbo (which other cc’s on the island have joked about), but to each their own and all that.

sorry this is so long. TLDR, i get where ur coming from in terms of “warning , some people might read your stuff differently than you want here” but really not everything is a kink and paternal dynamics can easily happen in regards to adult characters, particularly young adults, without there being any inappropriate connotations. i know nothing i said will change your mind, obviously it’s set, but ykno diff perspectives and all that. hope ur doing well

Thank you for the ask! I see you were on mobile, I believe. :D I am also going to push the character limit with this response, I fear.

I agree that it isn't inhernetly sexual to go after a parental relationship that you missed out on, and there are many such cases. I'll even go so far as to say that it's not inherently kinky to go after a parental relationship that you missed out on, because there is such a thing as non-sexual kink, and heaven knows that MCYT writing is full of non-sexual kink. Lots and lots of stuff that is platonic that is kinking on fear, or being drugged, or kidnapping, or hypnosis, or familial relationships, etc— there's lots of people who aren't doing that. There are tons of people out in the real world (and in fiction), who are simply just expanding their family as an adult, and that's awesome. When I was in college there was this older couple who kind of adopted me and invited me over for thursday dinner, and they were awesome. There was nothing untoward going on there.

But look. I am an emduo fan who likes to see my guys be murdery, and because of that, I've ended up reading a bunch of Dark SBI. I've ocassionally gone "this cannot be what everyone is doing" and I've read stuff tagged as "family fluff" that I find recommended. I am aware of where the genre is going, particularly with the rise of "dadbur" and "dadnoblade" interpretations.

And look, you have just got to trust me on this one. People are writing stuff that in any other fandom I would be recommending they put kink tags on the work so that people who liked that trope could find it and people who didn't like it would avoid it, but that comment in DSMP would just lead to people getting doxxed, so I just grit my teeth and go "i guess that's baked into Dark SBI or Tooth Rotting Fluff now, I sure hope that doesn't hit anybody's triggers".

Like I PROMISE you. The first draft of this response included excerpts of fics that I've read and I was like "can YOU pick the ship fic from the /p fics here"? But I have a horror of ever leading to someone getting cancelled on twitter, so nothing that could possibly be identifiable of these writers. But like—

Some of the ways that Tommy gets treated in the narrative are almost indistinguishable from a bodice-ripper romance. Some of the tropes being used— within DSMP we've all clasped hands and agreed to interpret it being platonic, but in any other fandom, you are going to start getting comments that you might not want to get. The tag is FULL of stuff that is DD/LB in everything but name. Maybe my mind is in the gutter here, but if you move out of this fandom, you are going to move into circles where a lot of people's minds are in the gutter, and you are going to get a very different response from your comments!

And I was talking about daddy kink here specifically, because I see that one come up a lot and it's gotten egregious lately, but this also applies to dehumanization, and fearplay, and predator/prey, and "instincts" (in every other fandom that's gonna get people in a mashup of A/B/O, Hypnosis, and sometimes Agere responding to it), and kidnapping/drugging, AND the way a bunch of "piglin instincts" stuff is just a BDSM au now where the Brute (dom) needs to be callmed down by their Runt (sub). The SBI tag is super kinky right now. And I don't have a problem with that idealogically, write your truth, but a) please don't bring that up in front of the streamers, b) if you move to another fandom you have got to be prepared that not everyone is doing their kink platonically.

Like I'm assuming that people don't know what tropes they're playing into, they're just building them from first principles, because the other alternative is that they are deliberately and knowingly writing kink and posting it in the & relationship tag with insufficient trigger tags, and I prefer to believe that people don't know.

I'm glad we agree about people bringing that into Phi's chat, or Pol's, or Luzu, or any of the other streamers that people have decided is So Old. A lot of people aren't comfortable even being assigned dad, as we saw with Felps, so bringing it even further is just— uh oh, no.

I do not have a problem with people liking non-romantic and non-sexual relationships. I find it a bit odd that much of the fandom can't concieve of a non-romantic and non-sexual relationship without making it familial and specifically lately father-son— don't you have close friends?— but I am fully in support of gen writing. I primarily write gen! I'm an avid commentor on gen fics!

But some of the tropes at play in the fandom are kinky, there is no way to avoid that. The fact that they are set in a familial relationship doesn't negate that. Some of the ways that the DSMP characters get treated would be distinctly non-familial if you ever brought it out of that context. And I am just warning people, if you bring it out of that context, be prepared for the response you get.

You cannot take DSMP tropes and apply them one-to-one in other fandoms, with other streamers swapped in, and expect them to be read the same way. Like i'm sorry, but that's just true. If you are posting the same sort of stuff that for Cellbit & Phil that you would post for Tommy & Phil, people will assume that you have a daddy kink, because usually when a relationship between a adults that are actually similar in age is refered to with paternal language it's a kink thing. That is how the broader internet works. (And anon, if I had a daddy kink, would I be complaining about the fact that I can open any SBI fic and have about a 40% chance of hitting it and I'm seeing signs of this appearing in QSMP? I assure you I'm not "projecting [my] own experiences onto them" here.)

[bleue-flora]

i dont agree with what jack and tommy did recently either but i am glad that they didnt say that c!dream died or anything like that and instead siad that everyone in the server left, like tommy oculd have easily been like "the nuke ending and c!discduo talk isn't canon and my character canonically killed c!dream" and cinniters would have seen that as canon.

That is very true. I did end up watching parts of it and I have to say I was pretty harsh on them (though I was really more so harsh on the idea of it being retcon which was being fed like an intentional thing when that’s not what happened), but really ccJack is just there vibing and ccTommy is the one leading the lore. But even then, it’s really just kinda a somber reminiscing. Most of that conversation people posted happened as they just stared at Techno’s house. And it’s kinda sad that this reminiscing moment was ruined by the propaganda that they retconned the lore, which isn’t even what happened. In fact, I’d agree he could’ve taken a different route, but ccTommy really kept things as open and non descriptive of other characters, just talking about himself and what he’s been doing. He mentions Tubbo and that’s it. So you are right it definitely could have been worse, but more importantly things were just kinda blown out of the water a bit and things were taken out of context and at an angle that doesn’t make sense and isn’t true…

But ya see what’s funny is he made the script for the nuke finale, it’s his lore and his streams. CcDream wasn’t the brain child of it and didn’t make money off it. So it’d honestly make no sense to retcon his own shit. Like what is he gonna do go and delete his streams that have millions of views, yeah right. Give me a break… I mean I do personally feel like he has become controlled by his fandom to the point it makes him disingenuous and unappealing to watch (for me), which is sad, but here he at least doesn’t go far especially as Jack certainly doesn’t let him because in both instances of talking about the nuke Jack insists he did it and it happened. It’s ironic because people want to control a narrative but I think it’s the authenticity and in the moment improve that played a big part of making the dsmp popular in the first place. Because a lot of it is genuine silliness between friends and it’s part of why ccDream is popular because he just has fun with his friends and their friendship and banter is entertaining. Sometimes the bloopers are the most fun to watch or the out of pocket improvised lines, because the authenticity and passion is tangible and enticing… anyways in watching it I wonder if this is him perhaps meeting in the middle. Like hey if you don’t like season 1 ending, here is the season 2 ending… or maybe he’s been thinking about c!tommy lore awhile and like took up the opportunity to do some of it, as a writer I can understand the appeal. The dsmp seemed to be a way of projection for him and clearly since he wrote scripts he does think about his character and plots and such… I mean ccSam said he and ccDream did off camera roleplay, because it was fun and something they enjoyed, and maybe that’s what this was, a way to tie up lose ends for them and put out there some of the things they wish they had said.

It doesn’t have to be a big lore thing or a malicious act of ccTommy retconning his lore because he hates the finale or to please his fans that do… if you watch it, it’s really more so just a sad moment shared between two friends who miss something as much as they wouldn’t do it again, playing their characters for one last time.

[rachelsquill]

i wish i had been active on tumblr in my early days of dsmp. i didnt think there was a dsmp fandom on tumblr or at least not one that would engage with me bcuz tumblr was always so dead whenever i tried to engage in fandom. (looks at ml fandom and the bnha fandom and the [redacted] fandom) and i always thought maybe im just not good enough but somehow on twitter i was doing numbers (not reallt but it was better than i had ever done on tumblr or even instagram) and i was engaging with people and thoughts and ideas. anyways i say this bcuz i feel like i missed out on being an active part of so much. i dont even think ppl on tumblr (besides the few puffy stans maybe) knew i existed until my ass fell into drawing tntduo. Which yeah fair its probably my own fault. I don’t leave a dent in any fandom im in, i dont know how to engage well, i feel so lost all the time and i think i just irritate people. Im just really sad rn i wish i felt like a part of something again but i dont know if i will

[kyuummie]

(// mentions of wilbur soot , /neg rant )

probably not an awesome idea to rant publicly about it but. i saw moot talk about this and honestly i am really missing the community behind w*lbur/tnt/ccrime like that was where i thrived and i felt safe. which is so bad because i swear to GOD that was on purpose to lure in younger mentally unstable people into one place 😭😭😭 in no means am i saying i would like to go back to being oblivious though , ultimately im growing as a person as a result of this loss …..

to be completely frank ive always seperated c from cc but i think drawing him kind of icks me out a lot more than say, cdream or cschlatt, because i dont really care about either of those ccs. i did care a lot more about cw*lbur than the real one because i was more passionate about the C because. writing is a form of art and im passionate about the art of character development ! (yes i say that even when i had an album of all the pictures i had of him in my photo gallery which totaled to almost 2k until yeah. its bad i know 😭 yes im starting therapy soon) and ctntduo is a big factor because they are the most important out of all to me, i was very intrigued by them because of their dynamics, literally everything is ctnt to me……….. i guess it can become a cdiscduo situation?? but for now im disgusted by even thinking of c!w, i keep saying this but i can only give it time

im slowly moving closer to ctommy and cquackity and other fandoms like splatoon more now though and you will see a lot more of them, it’s embarrassing to dwell on something like this and i can acknowledge this isnt about me but at the same time i can understand why im having such a hard time with this shift in my mindset, and i am genuinely mourning and grieving for a part of me and my identity as an artist that is kind of tainted and basically gone. a lot of media and art is about to become/has become lost to time which is even sadder

all to say if i do eventually draw him again, which im not sure about, designs will be changed, just wont be using tags like “w*lbursootfanart”. dsmp has long been dead and the creators do not profit off of me drawing the characters (which frankly most of the time dont even look like the creators). 99% sure people outside the fandom will never go watch present day ccs because of their c!s and art of it. that’s qsmp’s job

anyways wilbur soot should jump and he WILL be facing karma for his actions 💗 i cant believe men like him have the guts to hurt the most kindhearted people without remorse

[adrianlikesdinos]

i absolutely adore when fandoms obviously have like their chosen creators for diffrent forms of media. i think the dsmp is probably the BEST example of this. we had put animator, our singer/songwriter, our fanartist. like, if you were a part of it you can probably name at least 2 people from each of those categories that i would also name. they became as popular as the celebrities/characters themselves. if you ever catch me saying i miss 2021, odds are ive gone completely insane, but this is what i mean. there was something that just felt so diffrent being a part of that especially with all that was going on in the world at the time. things like these are why it is so wholy devastating when these people who where the foundation of the thing you found so much comfort and community in turn out to be such awful people. and yes, you should never get attched to people on the internet and never truly trust much of what people are putting out there for the world to see, but they got as popular as they were for a reason. they were good at being liked. im not trying to ignore all of the really not good parts of that fandom, im aware of all the shit that was constantly going on, but no one can deny there was a community there full of so many amazing people. i made friends because of it. it kept me going till the next day at times.

i guess this kind of turned into a big ramble so sorry bout that. moral of the story ig, hold people accountable for their actions, but dont feel bad about enjoying them before the other side of them came to light. alot of good things can come from people inspired by other maybe not so great people.

[silktouchhands]

im hitting that point of being in a fandom where everyone else is moving on to other stuff and i literally cannot bring myself to do the same and watch qsmp i dont care 😭 i thought i would but i just really really do not and i wish there was a way to filter it without also accidentally filtering out dsmp quackity and wilbur and charlie etc etc. but theres not an easy way and im not going to expect people to tag every single post they make especially when like. i could just unfollow. i dunno i miss dsmp a lot actually lol

[daydreamteardrop]

Hello, Ranboo Tag! Ive come to share my words after being unessacarily passive aggressively bashed on Tiktok.

See, it started with a tiktok saying that genloss doesnt seem that scary after ep1. The opinion matched with mine after watching the first ep, so I wrote the comments something like "yeah, i thought I'd be scarier"

Some people tried to change my opinion by genuinely explaining how the next episodes are supposed to have more "horror", yknow? Other people just went straight to passive aggressively bashing me, with stuff like "what about Ranboo screaming let me die, huh? 🙄", Overall everything in the spirit off:

"what about *insert thing from ep 2 or 3*, idiot? Should've been more patient"

With a lot of aggression or ways to make you feel stupid. Here's the thing, I find it funny yet sad.

Oh noo, I had my own opinion that othwr ppl shared so i agreed!!!! Where are the people's minds at.

I was a bit dissapointed by it, because when i think back to 2021 and Ranboo announcing him working on genloss (yknow, 2020 - 2021 the era where everything was still fun) he said he was inspired by The Walten Files among other things. So thats what i expected: a vhs style analog horror. That wasnt what I got, so it threw me off a little bit, but I nontheless gave the first ep a try. I didnt like it that much, not because of it not being what its supposed to be, it just didnt appeal to me. Which, and idk if those kinda fans knew that, is completely fine!

You are not obliged to watch everything the cc pushes out and to like everything they do or say or release.

I have the attention span of a fetus, I would never be able to sit through ep 2 and 3. And i generally didn't feel like it, bc yknow, I didnt like it. So why would I.

And generally it all boils down to me thinking, wow. 2021 to early 2022 really was better.

Ive been in this fandom since November 2020. Ive been there for almost everything, excitedly watching it all and having fun! I never missed Ranboos or Tubbos stream, bc I was a huge beeduo fan. I made fanart and their videos helped me fall asleep.

And then everything started to dull at around May 2022. The vibe changed and me and probably many others, as I have heard others say the same, started to feel like this isnt enjoyable anymore. Call me and those people hung up on the past, but yknow, sometimes people loose interest, get more casual about things and idk, act like a responsible person distancing themselves from this thick responsibility of "like everything and watch every stream" when everything had dulled down and you dont feel the same you felt back then.

I was only in the fandom with one foot anyway. Occasionally watching Tommy, James Marriot and recently gaining a bit more interest on the QSMP. If i speak on my feelings and thoughts on the dsmp fandom changing, I'm sure even more people would bash me, even though its a genuine opinion and not whatever delusional hatecrime some ppl may think.

I genuinely hope that Generation Loss goes great for Ranboo and that he has fun doing it. And that the people who like it can enjoy and have fun.

But Im not obliged to and I dont wanna hear the bashing. If i read it, i laughing, just to be clear. But i think i got my point across.

If youve read this far, thank you for your patience, have a lovely day.

[iantojonesirl]

sort of a long vent post

a friend of mine moved away about a year ago for mental health reasons i really miss having them to talk to but simultaneously they were the cause of most of my problems at the time, like they had a lot of mental health issues which caused them to have like extreme trust issues so i was their only friend, which meant i hardly ever was able to spend time with my other friends, also i kinda respected their opinion a lot and they influenced a lot of the stuff i drew in my sketchbook and even the style i drew in, like they would see a drawing from a certain fandom (dsmp dont come at me it was in 2021) and make fun of me and then see a different drawing of my oc or something and think it was good, and my sketchbook is really important to me as a self expression thing which was a massive issue when they started nitpicking everything i made in it they also made remarks sometimes about how people were faking being lgbt and 'oh its all made up' which turned out to be a coping mechanism and it sort of backtracked my gender exploration like, completely they also used to like trauma dump on me and just vent to me, which was fine but i was dealing with my own shit at the time and it was constant so it was way to much for me to handle

ever since they moved my life has gotten so much better i have friends that dont make me feel shitty and im actually able to express myself and my mental health is better than it has been in years but i still miss talking to them sometimes because i could talk about my interests with them and they were actually a really interesting person

even now when i have a new interest i think 'oh i wonder what they would think' which is probably my own issue of a need for approval

i hope theyre doing ok though because even though they were a bit of an asshole, it was all down to them self projecting their own issues onto me and they genuinely were a nice person they just had a lot of problems that they didnt handle well

[wasflypaw]

Minecraft Roleplay is so cool . But

I'm entirely convinced most horrible takes exist because of how the Dream SMP is played

People will miss a lot of old and important (and sometimes really good) lines because they're in supposedly "filler" streams. Mainly from season 1, before streams were even Called Lore. There's whole Wars that people dont know about.

Everything before L'Manberg, despite the Disc War also being lore (something something Tommy's lore not being taken seriously) being immediately brushed off as "not canon" despite a lot of it being actually quite important if you look back. (The characters developed from personas the CCs played and they played them even Back Then. That was the CCs messing around but that BECAME their characters. I'm not saying analyse old streams as if they were planned I'm saying dont dismiss them as unimportant and not relevant. That's who the characters used to be.)

There's also the whole . Seemingly comedic lore (e.g Skeppy cage, Flatty Patty, Vikk and Lazar being the ones chosen, etc) being immediately brushed off as Too Comedic to be Taken Seriously or included in "serious" analysis despite the characters taking it seriously/it affecting them. Also "semi-lore". There's narrative weight, yes, but a lot of people tend to place it on things that actually didnt really matter to the story (e.g stuff like Tommy "breaking the rules" when he first joined, the rules in general,) and take it Away from moments that actually mattered (any of what I mentioned above)

Because there are so many streams from so many different people, new viewers WILL miss things. A lot of things.

And because the characters are played by popular CCs, CC bias will play into how people see the characters and who people choose to defend from the get-go. People can simply ignore streams from characters/ccs they dont like, or only watch ones that are explicitly lore from them. Or if you like a character you can pick the streams they appear in and only watch them. This isnt a Bad Thing, most people do it here. it's just interesting to me. No other fandom seems to be This separated. It's so fascinating

It is not possible for a new viewer to watch every DSMP stream, or every POV of every lore event. Everyone has an entirely different experience watching the SMP. You kinda HAVE to cherry pick which streams you watch and which ones you ignore to get the gist of the story

I was lucky to find the SMP when I did (I've been here since 2020. I cannot leave. Help Me.) Before L'Manberg was created. So I had time to catch up on most SMP streams before the Story really got going . And then my major hyperfixation caused me to watch every stream ever made on the SMP for the next like. 4 months straight. I have so much knowledge. This isn't even boasting I'm just more sad that a majority of the fandom will miss out on a lot of the really good streams I've watched, especially considering....

A lot of VODs are gone. For example. I used to watch Tubbo, Jack and Eret, who did Not have VOD channels back then, who would stream on the SMP nearly daily. You will miss a lot of Eret's character bc their old VODs simply dont exist anymore - I was so excited for his redemption arc bc I'd watched him this entire time boast about how great his side was and then eventually the realization hitting on Election Day n then the planning for a redemption arc ...

Idk I'm just Ranting. There's also the fact that a Lot of VODs are at least an hour and can sometimes even go up to 8 hours. There is so much missing content and there is so much misinformation because information is Hard To Find

[hangezoeenthusiast]

well hello anyone who is actually on tumblr and hasnt forgotten about me. ive been offline for a year or so, had personal issues in my life, and also started high school so i wanted to focus on that. life update:

- im in 10th grade now :)) high school isnt that bad and there actually isnt as much fights as there was in past years. also im in a lot of advanced classes now

- i got new friends, and dumped my old ones(they were toxic)

- got into some new fandoms(call of duty, genshin[sorta i barely tolerate some people, I just try to play the game without interacting with the fandom], tmnt[i’ve always loved it], and others that I can't rlly think about rn

- got my working permit today :D after new years I'm gonna look for a job

- well I figured out I'm trans now (f-t-m), after years of question my gender and making excuses, I'm also pansexual :)

- the name I want my legal name to be is kaisen(kai is just a nickname and I dont use j anymore)

- body image stuff, sucks to suck but I'm trying everyday, slowly

- i actually have a girlfriend, we have been together for 3 months, and known each other for around 1 or 2 years. We are long distance(she lives in another country), time zones suck, but we make it work. We also met on genshin, so i guess i owe the game for that.

- im teaching myself how to draw, and also have been reading a lot of books lately

- family life isnt the best, im not gonna elaborate, but i just try to ignore it

it seems like a dream with how i acted a year ago. i seemed way more immature than what i do act now. i was so innocent i guess you could say, and i guess you could also say that i was just figuring myself out. and as im sitting in my bed, listening to The Neighborhood, im reminiscing. i do miss the friends that i had before i dropped them, and i really wish that i didnt push everyone away whenever i was in a depressive episode, but its the past. if i cant get over the past i’ll never be able to move on into the future. im just so glad that past me could get that experience of exploring themselves and meeting new people. also i was very very cringey i realize now, i feel like i was acting a sort of way to get recognition from people.

well anyways i dont think i’ll be writing anything anytime soon, i dont feel the passion i used to back then. maybe someday, but not today, and not the next. also thank you for 300 followers, that might not seem alot compared to other people, but it is for me. also thank you for all the support with the dsmp stuff even tho i stopped writing about them. i rlly didnt expect my stuff to blow up like that :))

well signing off:

kaisen(kai), have a fantastic day/night 😊

(ps: ive never deleted tumblr, and i was reading fanfics on here, i just was being lazy and didnt feel like responding to messages and updating my profile 😉 so to all the people who commented on my posts, i wasnt ignoring u, im too tired and my brain cells are the equivalent of 1 at the moment, but i’ll try to respond)

[wilczachannn]

ANNOUNCMENT !!!

this has been coming for so long, i was too lazy to write this down, but it just had to be done.

i’m leaving the dsmp fandom.

i’m sorry to those who were waiting for the series to come back, i don’t like this fandom anymore, that means i will not continue the series, zero motivation to finish it really just ended it all. this does not mean i give anyone permission to continue it. the fandom is not it for me anymore, they have new preffered writers, and the like - reblog ratio is beyond me, it’s honestly so unmotivating when i see 9 pictures getting more love than a fic :// honestly, i looked for those pictures for no more than like 5 minutes and wrote that fic for like a week. (yes, i’m being pissy) but like guys lets be real here, if you want writers to stay REBLOG & GIVE UR OPINIONS !!

plus i dont watch any mcyts anymore, they make me cringe.

mcyts were the reason i met so many amazing moots and friends on here, i’ll miss it, but i like to think of this as growing up and moving on !! <3

what does this mean?

no more mcyt fics, i won’t delete anything mcyt related tho, i once enjoyed my time in the fandom and i like the memories i made. so everything will be up.

what can you expect now?

probably kpop fics, tho i'm still kinda new to kpop (almost 3 months in) i would like to write for them as i find comfort in them :) i'm a slow writer, but i'll see what i can do !!! ♡ (list of groups i like, here !!)

thank you for understanding, thank you for taking your time to read my fics, have a good day everyone, i love every single one of you !!💞

– tagging my taglist and utbf taglist so yall know <3

thank you for all of your support, it meant a lot, i will be forever grateful for all of you ♡

@bbh-a3sth3tic ,, @tanoukii

@lavenderjacobs ,, @oh-mcyt

@that-enby-mf ,, @joyfullymulti

@mcyt-sh1t ,, @luluwinchester

@kitsuneglasses ,, @beepbopbee

@angstyx ,, @sunniewrites

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@emprixnix ,, @xfeliciahardyx

@dawnfallx ,,  @creation-magician

@ohworm-writes ,, @toodeepintofandoms

@etheriaaly ,, @clxwnkid

@dreamyteam ,, @kiritokunuwu

@i-need-hugs ,, @creatorofstars

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@chlorofume ,, @queennightsetz

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@joyfullymulti ,, @wowie-a-kitkat

@teenage0jealousy ,, @pogbitch

@http-parrot ,, @kitsuneglasses

@augustine-is-joy ,, @sunniewrites

@sad-t-an ,, @owotalks

@june-phantom ,, @beepbopbee

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@lakifaki ,, @sexsellz

[jackassbroadcast]

Hello im a Tommy enthusiast who watched that one stream where he monologued to foolish for like hafe an hour bc i heard it was a cool stream or wtv to realize how much amazing character moments it had that barly anyone in this damn fandom is talking about so ill fucking do it

(Only after finishing this i realized i wrote 1.7k words LOL OOPS)

If u dont know what in talking about its this stream (apologies for linking a clips channel the actual vod on foolish's channel is deleted by now)

Also heads up /rp /dsmp every time i refer to someone here by name is their character unless stated otherwise bc writing c! Before every name Is tiring LOL

Also // suicidal idealization , death mentions

The conversation starts off with foolish and tommy mining for Wilbur, and foolish questions how simply mining will solve the problem to which Tommy reponds with "they dont get solved, do they? It just ends uo with some madman screaming 'Hes solved it!' And now look at him." And how he wants to "prevent the problem before it goes outta hand" something that clearly references Wilbur and his destruction of lmanburg, which paired with him collecting stone for Wilbur as the way to stop said problems he believes if he does anything he can for Wilbur and support him by his side enough this time around, that he wont do anything like thay again, which as im writing this makes be realize by doing that we learn hes blaming himself for what happened to Wilbur in November 16th and pogtopia and a whole, by not being enough for Wilbur in his mind.

The conversation continues, foolish off hand asks why would tommy want to stop Wilbur? Weren't they friends at some point? To which tommy leads foolish to lmanburg and tells him the story of the nation (how it was him and Wilbur's nation, how they made it to espace dream's iron fist and how they held an election "which puts your life on the line, which is good- if you're confident but- perhaps we were too confident", how they lost)

Tommy: "You know the phrase: 'treat other how you wanna be treated', foolish? People dont ever listen to it. Wilbur- he decided he wanted to be treated poorly so he treated everyone around him poorly "

This Tommy quote, to me at least, so so amazingly strong in conveying how understanding he is? To the world around him. Like-

I have not seen one person bring this quote up, and yet its (at least to me) shows such growth and understanding in Tommy i saw little to nothing like it in other streams. It shows he understands, he knew Wilbur didnt change just because, he knows he was struggling, that he thought everyone around him were againt him, were going to abandon him the first chance theyll get- and he thought he deserved it. So he, as a last way to defend himself against that, hurt them first, abandoned them first, so theyll see how much of a 'bad' person he was and take him out- and tommy saw right through that, possibly understanding it more after exile.

This next qoute was talked about much more but i still wanna bring it up

Foolish: "Do you believe in second chances?"

Tommy: "Oh, no I don't really believe that its not really a thing for me foolish its just that-" *sigh* "- i believe everyone has a little bit of good in then and this is not about giving him a second chance or a third chance- its not about *chances* foolish. Its about not giving up on the poeple you care about. "

Which. I mean. I dont know how healthy that mindset is, but comign from Tommy it makes so much sense.

Techno, tubbo, eret, sapnap. These are all people Tommy used to be extremely close to, had either a war or had been betrayed by them, and yet still found it in his heart that he still cares for them, with all of these, they did horrendous things, that hurt tommy physically and mentally, while also not being once or twice, but a contentious thing, but while tommy is to this day still effected by their actions he still found it in himself to forgive, because he knows he fucked up too, a lot, and he knoes they learned from their mistakes just as he had (except c!techno FUCKKK c!techno mf doesnt learn SHITTT) and he knows, when the time comes he knows hed want the people he hurt to forgive him too. (And he wants Wilbur to do the same)

Next qoute i will cut to a couple parts because its really so good and full of character i had to bro

Foolish: "Do you consider yourself to be the good guy or the bad guy?"

Tommy: "It really depends who you ask, isn't it? Yknow? If you asked dream he'd say im *his little toy that he plays with* you know? It doesnt.."

This part really stunned me when i first heard it because, and correct me If im wrong, but i dont think tommy ever acknowledged how dream sees him, and  how right he has his viewpoint too. Just the fact tommy is so *painfully* aware of how dream doesnt even see him as a person anymore but just a toy to mess around with for a while than just throw it away when it get too boring really hurt me. Someone give this kid a hug

(Continued) Tommy: "...foolish, honestly? I used to consider myself 'the good guy', you know? The fuckin'- second in command! But these past- these past like six months or so, foolish, everything got so much harder than it was before. Because before it was just us vs bad guys, it was all so clear! But- its not been 'clear' for so long, right? It wasn't; 'these are the bad guys! These are the good guys!' Now it's : 'he's doing this and it makes him a bit worse-' i mean, it all got so complicated, so- i don't know. Depends who you ask."

He says this, in response to foolish asking if hes a good guy- but its awfully similar to if Wilbur asked him if they were the bad guys. Because foolish just asked about him, and yet in his answer tommy made sure to keep using the words "us, he's, guys" as if hes not really talking about himself, as if hes explaining how Wilbur was wrong. Which he was. Also something interesting ive noticed, he says "the last 6 months or so", which indicated that with Wilbur he knew better to follow his word and leadership- with Wilbur he was always on the right side but when he lost him he felt much more lost alone, and couldn't trust himself enough to be on the "right side" .

Foolish: "I dont know, it all seems strange because just from, you know- hearing from others and, you know, learing a little bit, its seems like you've been the hero, you've been the villain, the conqueror, the savior, and, even now, i have no idea what you exactly are."

Tommy: "that's up to you to decide, isn't it? Im just- *uh*  i dont know. These days, foolish, I'm a little weaker than i used to be"

Foolish couldn't be more right with what he said, another example of this we see where a character acknowledges tommy never sticks to one thing us Charlie when calling him "tommy fron nowhere" which shows more how he cant stick to one thing, during the course of him on the server he had been friends and enemy with nearly everyone, been on pretty much all sides, and while never really intentionally, being in the center of conflict. When foolish says he doesnt know who tommy is anymroe at this point and all Tommy says in return is that "hes a little weaker than he used to be" does to show he misses who he used to be, with lmanburg, with Wilbur, when he knew who he was, now he doesn't know who he is anymore, but still so desperately want to be more demonstrated by the lines coming rigth after that one:

(Continued) Tommy: "..I'm not- I'm now who i want to be, but-"

Foolish: "Being honest with you, Tommy, that's the same case for me as well."

Tommy: "...heres the thing, foolish, unlike you i dont really have a choice. I have to try and be who i want to be, because if i dont, very bad things are gonna happen in this server. And now that Wilbur's back i can't- quite frankly *no one* can risk that. So i dont really have a choice."

Tommy want's to change- he wants to be better than he is now, to be closer to who he used to be, no matter how impossible that might be, but he also sees it as an immediate thing, he wants to change now, or asap, which is why hes collecting stone for Wilbur in the first place- old him would've done that with ease just because Wilbur asked and he wants to have that back so badly, asap. The way he talked about this reminded me of when he tried getting over his trauma stream before he went in the prison to kill dream: he knew he wasnt the best but he tried getting over that asap to go kill dream asap. He didnt wanna take the long road of years of healing and instead thought he could get over it just like that, and that experience clearly didnt teach him anything because now hes trying to slide back to the relationship he and Wilbur used to have and ignoring the drastic changes they both had plus the bad moments that were the reason they feel out in the first place, or maybe he knows, but at this point, after everything that happened to him and the server, he doesnt care anymore? He knows hes not the same he was and he'll never be the same, because thats not how it works, but his mentor, president, big brother is back after so long tommy felt so lost and alone he thinks maybe, this time around, with Wilbur, he could try and be better again.

[shoezuki]

Sorry to drop a whole lot of text out of nowhere but my rage needs an outlet and you are the great ringleader of based takes on tumblr.

But I hate how hypocritical mcyt twitter is in the way they will justify attacking fans and fanartists for supporting a specific content creator but absolutely refuse to even think about attacking their favorite ccs for supporting and being friends with that same cc. If they feel so strongly that this cc they despise is so terrible that it justifies attacking the fans, why does it not go through their head that someone who is legit friends with them could be terrible by association?

And any time this is even suggested to some twitter users, the immediate response is "I can't control who my fave is friends with" or "I don't have to like them bc they are friends with my fave" which are two points that completely miss the reasoning for pointing this out. If they can't control who their fave is friends with, why do they think they can control the fans that support the cc? And in no way does suggesting this mean they have to like said cc, at this point it is not even about that cc. They are free to dislike any cc for any reason but there is a huge difference between disliking a cc + not engaging with their content And going out of their way to find any excuse to attack the cc + their fans.

This is about realizing the dissonance in what they are currently doing, which is the whole reason someone would point this out. If they did recognize this, they'd then have to answer two very loaded questions for themselves: "Why am I willing to excuse my favorite content creator being friends with someone I believe is so terrible that I will attack fans relentlessly for supporting?" and "If I truly believe my favorite content creator is not a terrible person themselves, is this other content creator not as bad as I currently believe they are and if so, should I stop sending threats to their fans who have already come to this conclusion?"

Anyway this long rant is mostly fueled by my frustration with everything happening still with Technoblade and Technotwt + Fanartists who draw Techno obviously, but it really does apply to a lot of creators (and their respective fanbases) in mcyt who continue to get hit with so much shit on that platform by the fanbases of their own damn friends despite the cc having grown from what they were initially called out on and their fans and friends(!!!) being aware of exactly that.

Also idk if they realize this but nearly every fandom space outside of mcyttwt will cancel by association, so the more that Dream SMP fans there argue that half the members of the server are terrible people and attack any mention of them, the worse every other member of the server looks to outsiders.

genuinely youre so fucking right.

ppl tend to have this. extremely hypocritical idea that like. fans of 'bad' ccs? horrible people. but the ccs they Love who are friends w said 'bad' cc? well They Cant Tell Their Faves What To Do OBVIOUSLY

its this. like. clearly a mixture of jus Not respecting or understanding other people n their interests, And this kind of pedestal they put certain ccs on. like. i cannot COMPREHEND how they just Dont Understand that. if ppl are Horrible for enjoying techno's content, then the ccs he's friends with who support n love him Must be Extremely Horrible by that logic.

its like. illogical and jus spineless TBH. they say that such ccs need to be 'cancelled' or whatever, but they make exceptions or will Have to watch streams n videos. cant even hold to their own

its jus.... weird. its so weird n fucked up n like you said i dont doubt that 90% of ppl who have no clue of these mcyters or the dsmp will see the kinda drama that goes on and assume that theyre all just Horrible people

[p1nkc4lyps0]

c!Tommy for the ask game thingy :D -@tntduocore

ooh! okay!

I've been in the fandom since like August/September 2020 so my first impressions of c!tommy were around the elections arc and i remember vaguely thinking of him as the excitable kid that he was viewed as back then

I now like the much reserved side of his character from post revial, granted i dont really watch his lore from what ive seen he's still the same as he was but a bit quieter. Such as in Ho16 where even though Wilbur's angry at him he's standing up to himself but in a more reserved way unlike earlier on when he was more likely to snap back at Wilbur.

I think my favorite moment[s] of c!tommy are ones where he's shown concern, mostly towards c!tubbo such as after the festival and the 'what am i without you' all this being before his revival where he was still quite out going, seeing these moments of his genuine softness rather than his harsher persona

The only idea i have for story is what i headcannon his backstory to be, this is not my 100% original idea but ive added quite alot onto and can't find the original creator so their bits are to be in bold: The goddess of space, clara had a favorite star that shined much brighter, as the star began to fade she turned it into a baby who she sent down to earth as a shooting star. Meteor showers in dsmp are said to be caused by Clara's tears and Phil realised that there was a very large meteor shower going on and carried his sons Wil and Techno out, flying them above the clouds to see the meteors better when a shooting star fell to Earth nearby, they went to check it out and they found a baby [ tommy ] of which they took home and adopted

My only unpopular opinion is just that i don't understand the gay/bi/pan or any form of mlm c!tommy headcannons im an aroace c!tommy truther and i respect the headcannons i just dont quite get it

My favorite relationship involving c!tommy is beeduo, ive just always liked it and my favorite headcannons are just some of the disability headcannons, like him missing a leg or using a wheelchair/cane or being partially deaf or having a lazy eye from head trauma, even just neurodivergent headcannons because i just think it's neat that the community can create their own diversity this way and i think its a neat way to represent people!